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entaxei, me exairesh to scenes pou einai kai poly kalh mousikh
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to pio periektiko mhnyma pou ginetai na grapsei kaneis gia to themaQuote:
Originally Posted by freak brother
entaxei, me exairesh to scenes pou einai kai poly kalh mousikh
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Originally Posted by necropethamenos
Egw pali na pw thn apopsh mou xwris na sxoliasw twn ypoloipwn, mias kai exei ksefygei h mpala...
Tous akousa prwth fora to 92 kai mou fanhkan varetoi kai flwroi. To 94, enas filos mou me eprikse oti "xanw" kai "tha goustarw poly" opote tsekara Images kai Awake. Arghsan na mou kanoun klik, alla telika mou aresan para poly.
Se ayto to shmeio na parathrhsw oti osoi sxoliazoun thn elleipsh synaisthimatwn kanoun lathos. Lypamai, alla ayto den einai thema goustou. Yparxei polys kosmos kai kosmos pou en pasei periptwsei den masaei koutoxorto, pou exei syndethei synaisthimatika me thn mousikh tous, pou exoun proslavei ayta pou metadidoun. An gia kapoio logo esas den sas sygkinoun, ok, alla eteron ekateron...
Synexizw gia DT... To Change of Seasons fovero EP, stathera apsogoi... To FII me ksenise, opws ksenise kai poly kosmo, oxi giati erikse tous tonous alla giati yphrxe poly emporila mesa kai kyriws polla kommatia den kathontan san ta ypoloipa, gia mena einai akoma anomoiogenhs diskos... Se telikh analysh mou aresoun kapoia kommatia alla se genikes grammes den tha to sygrina me tis prohgoumenes douleies tous...
Se aythn thn periodo tous eida kai 2 fores live. Sthn Agglia emeina me anoikto to stoma, kataplhktiko performance, poly zwntania kai foverh apodosh... Sthn Ellada, sto Lykavvhto, poly pio metria emfanish. Edw mou ekane entypwsh oti to live ektheiasthke apo ta periodika kai apo poly kosmo, alla fantazomai oti prwton kapoioi htan toso enthousiasmenoi pou tous evlepan pou to kataeyxaristithikan (kai htan kai oi kerdismenoi ths ypotheshs) kai kapoioi tous evgalan theous epeidh vasika einai oi Dream Theater opote stantar paizoun teleia... (mia merida kosmou pou dystyxws spaei kai ta nevra twn ypoloipwn...)
Synexizw... Otan vghke to Liquid Tension Experiment, to phra pio poly gia opadikous logous, xwris na perimenw na goustarw idiaitera. Antitheta me to palikari pou den tou ekane aisthisi, egw proswpika epatha thn plaka ths zwhs mou. Ekplhktikh mousikh kai tromerh xhmeia sthn mpanta. To live jamming synaisthima diaxyto kai genikws apeirws (alla apeirws milame) anwterh douleia apo to FII. Se ayto to shmeio arxisa na parakalaw ton kalo theoulh na fygei o (kata t'alla sympathestatos) Sherinian kai na paroun ton Rudess, pou tous phgaine poly perissotero...
Kai etsi kai egine, epeidh eimai poly kalo paidi, eisakousthke h proseyxh mou kai efyge o Derek...
Perimena loipon diskara, antaksia tou Awake, alla me allo xrwma (diafora Moore/Rudess profanws).
Kai edw arxizw ta airetika... Dioti emena to Scenes me apogohteyse para poly. Legane oti tha antidrasoun sthn emporikh kateythynsh tou FII kai tha vgaloun heavy disko alla telika kanane ousiastika to idio pragma! Vgalane enan disko pou tha ikanopoiouse thn syntriptikh pleiopshfia twn opadwn: heavy kai ypertexniko. Kai osoi me gnwrizoun, kseroun oti otan prokeitai gia heavy den exw kamia antirrhsh (eimai kafros koinws). Alla na to shkwnei kai h mpanta. O Rudess den mou edwse kamia entypwsh mousikou pou trelainetai gia ashkwta riff kai daidalwdeis syntheseis kai allages... Pio poly rolo komparsou eixe, "paikse ypergrhgora ala Metropolis"...
O diskos kalos einai fysika, aloimono, kai exei kai foveres stigmes, eidika o Petrucci kai o Portnoy deixnoun na to eyxaristiountai idiaiterws... To provlhma mou me ton disko einai oti o Rudess pou lampei sto LTE, den deixnei thn aksia tou (thn mousikh, oxi thn texnikh), den afhnei to stigma tou. Einai mia mpanta pou o Rudess den einai melos ths tropon tina... Ara einai mia mpanta me meion ena melos, dioti o Moore (kai o Sherinian ws ena vathmo) exei safestato stigma sta album pou symmetexei. O Rudess? Krima... Enas diskos Dream Theater ek tou asfalous, xwris ekplhkseis hxhtika kai mousika... Poly wraies kapoies syntheseis pantws...
Edw tous eida alles dyo fores. Pali mia Agglia pou gamhsan kai edeiran kai mia Ellada, sto Rockwave pou htan METRIOTATOI (kai tous esvhsan kyriolektika oi In Flames pou pote den mou aresan kai live me kerdisan).
Symperasma gia ta live twn Theater: Ekplhktikoi se kleisto xwro, se klamp typou Gagarin / Rodon an yparxei o hxos vevaia) kai poly metrioi se anoixtes, megales synavlies... Den tous eida stis teleytaies gia na exw apopsh...
Kai vgainei kai to 6 Degrees... Kai pali ginomai o airetikos ths ypotheshs kai mou aresei apeires fores perissotero apo to Scenes, enw polys kosmos to vrhke poly pio vareto. Dystyxws kai aytos pasxei apo to syndromo "prosexoume ti paizoume, exoume kai kapoia ekatommyria opadwn na eyxaristhsoume" alla edw yparxei mia safhs diathesh peiramatismou kai o Rudess dinei epitelous kai to diko tou stigma kai genika akous Dream Theater se mia diaforetikh ekdosh apo to parelthon. Akoma pantws to yperheavy, akougetai epithdeymeno sta aytia mou. Eipame, eimai karakafros, alla thelw na einai kai karakafroi oi mousikoi pou paizoun kafrika... Den niwthw apo ton disko oti oloi oi mousikoi einai mesa sthn fash... Den kserw an ginomai katanohtos, an me exei diavasei kaneis mexri edw, alla synexizw...
Kai ftanoume kai sto Train of Thought kai sto eksis periergo apotelesma. Exw ton disko apo ton kairo pou vghke. Kai akoma den exw niwsei thn kavla na katsw na ton valw katw na ton akousw me thn prosoxh pou tou aksizei. Sta dyo akousmata pou den eixa dwsei thn full prosoxh mou, mou arese ('h phra thn aisthisi oti tha mou aresei) oso kai to 6 Degrees apo apopsh synthesewn. Den akousa omws kati synarpastiko kai pragmatika progressive, mia mpanta sthn kosmara ths vre aderfe, pou oloi oi mousikoi trelainontai gia ayto pou kanoun. Epifylassomai gia mia pio prosektikh akroash (to sygkekrimeno post mou tous thymise pantws kai isws to akousw kai shmera!)
A! To LTE 2: Diskara! Ekplhktiko kai omws ksanapianoun ayto to live jamming/empneysh session tou prwtou, me dikh tous taytothta kai me mia freskada genika. Tous fantazesai pali na tzamaroun, 4 mousikoi, na kanoun paixnidia metaksy tous (mousika milaw panta!) na thn karavriskoun... Krima, poly krima pou kati tetoio den to akouw stous Theater...
Ayta ta oliga (!). Den thelw na symfwnhsw me ton Rockavlon kai na pw oti ekane eraly peak h mpanta, nomizw exoun xronia mprosta tous kai fantazomai oti tha exoume diafores epoxes, me ta skampanevasmata tous, pantws h twrinh epoxh den me sygkinei oso h prwth. Still, mia tromera aksiologh mpanta kai tha thn parakolouthw me endiaferon...
Kai paides, ksypnhste merikoi. Den yparxei kalyteros kai xeiroteros kitharistas... Kalos o Petrucci, foverh texnikh, kales idees sta solo, alla yparxei polys kosmos ekei eksw eksisou kalos kai polles fores anwteros...
Και με μένα συμβαίνει το ίδιο. Πήρα με λαχτάρα το δίσκο από την ημέρα που βγήκε. Τον άκουγα συνεχώς για κανά δυο βδομάδες, ένιωσα γενικώς ότι είναι αξιόλογος, αλλά έκτοτε δεν έχω νιώσει ποτέ την ανάγκη να τον ακούσω ξανά! Όποτε τον βλέπω στη δισκοθήκη κάτι αδιευκρίνιστο με απωθεί, νιώθω ότι δεν έχει να μου προσφέρει κάτι και προτιμώ παλιότερα άλμπουμ τους που τα έχω ακούσει πολύ περισσότερες φορές αλλά εξακολουθώ να τα βρίσκω συναρπαστικά.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic
oi theater me to fii edeiksan oti diakrinontai apo anisyxo pneyma k oti mporoun na einai pragmatika proodeytiki mpanta. to oti omws to album antimetwpistike me dyspistia apo ti megalyteri merida twn akroatwn (kata symptwsi i megalyteri merida twn akroatwn einai ayti pou arkeitai sta gnwsta agapimena motiva k den mporei na akolouthisei tin eilikrini ekfrasi twn anisyxiwn kathe kallitexni - katholou katakriteo ayto, apla mia paratirisi) k dedomenou oti oi theater einai full-time mpanta, koinws ama den poulisoun tha peinasoun, tous ekane IMO apo ekeini ti stigmi k meta na skeftontai perissotero emporika.Quote:
To FII me ksenise, opws ksenise kai poly kosmo, oxi giati erikse tous tonous alla giati yphrxe poly emporila mesa kai kyriws polla kommatia den kathontan san ta ypoloipa, gia mena einai akoma anomoiogenhs diskos... Se telikh analysh mou aresoun kapoia kommatia alla se genikes grammes den tha to sygrina me tis prohgoumenes douleies tous...
oi theater einai to prwto group pou mou erxetai panta sto myalo otan antimetwpizw to (arketa syzitimeno k edw mesa) zitima "texni-fraga". k de lew oti thysiasan to ena gia xari tou allou, alla SIGOURA MA SIGOURA prospathisan na ta symvivasoun.
btw o vic mou thymise twra poso gamouse to 6 degrees, tha valw na t'akousw. diafwnw mazi sou pantws Vic oti sto scenes o rudess den afise to stigma tou. thewrw oti xwris auton to album tha itan poly pio "epipedo" k "synithismeno" theater, stirigmeno stin portnoy-petrucci synthetiki nootropia twn awake/i&w, enw twra mporei o opoiosdipote na diakrinei k "ksena" (rudess) endiaferonta stoixeia.
liga logia gia na ginetai kouventa. "oloklirwmena" ti gnwmi mou gia tous theater den exei noima na prospathisw na ti grapsw etsi k alliws...
Tha diafwnhsw omws se dyo shmeia. Oi akroates twn Dream Theater, mia megalh merida telos pantwn apo aytous, den exei provlhma na akousei kainourgia pragmata, malista to perimenei apo mia tetoia mpanta. Den katalavainw poia einai ta gnwsta motiva sta opoia anaferesai. To synarpastiko stous Theater einai akrivws h elleipsh aytwn twn motivwn.
To FII exei ena Lines in the Sand, ena Trail of Tears kai ena New Millenium. Apo ekei kai pera, ante kapoia shmeia (gia mena panta) kai ayta. Den anaferomai kan sto eleeino You Not Me, to opoio htan ena tragiko lathos, o Desmond Child den exei thesh stous Dream Theater. O diskos epasxe, eniwsa oti akouw ena entelws aniso kai mperdemeno album.
Oso gia ton Rudess kai to Scenes, ekei einai h deyterh diafwnia mou, oxi gia ton disko (ayta ta eipa prin) alla gia to didymo Portnoy-Petrucci. Prin htan Portnoy-Petrucci-Moore kai ekei einai h megalh diafora. To Scenes einai Portnoy-Petrucci me enan keybordista me trela solo, oxi enan keybordista syntheth kai sigoura oxi ton keybordista pou spernei sta LTE...
Gia na to pw alliws, den mporw na fantastw ena jamming session gia to Scenes pou symmetexoun oi treis tous otan akouw ton disko, akouw mia syneidhth prospatheia na eimaste heavy kai na exoume "Theaterika" stoixeia opws ayta exoun apotypwthei sth syneidhsh tou kosmou meta apo ta tria klassika album... O Rudess diakrinetai mono se kapoies fraseis sta solo tou, kata ta alla nomizw oti den tha yphrxe shmantikh diafora stis syntheseis kai to yfos an o keybordistas htan o Macalpine 'h o Johansson...
Tespa...
Καλά, γι' αυτό μη παίρνεις και όρκο. Το progressive, ειδικά από συγκροτήματα όπως οι Theater, μου φαίνεται ότι παραέχει καλουπωθεί. Και γι' αυτό εως ένα βαθμό ευθύνονται και τα σχόλια των οπαδών/ακροατών.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic
xm pantws xtes akouga pali to awake kai skeftomoun pws meta apo enan poly wraio peiramatiko disko-kata to hmish tribute se kapoies apo tis epirroes tous kai enan epishs poly wraio xevimetal disko,8a h8ela poly na akousw apo autous ki enan gamato THEATER disko,an kai den 3erw kata poso mporoun akoma.epishs 3erw pws auto pou eipa shkwnei polles enstaseis opote mhn to analysete idiaitera,opoios katalave katalave
Exeis dikio, eprepe na hmoun pio akrivhs. To swsto einai oti oi akroates twn Dream Theater *mexri tote* (prin vgei to FII) den eixe provlhma na akousei kainourgia pragmata. To kaloupi emfanisthke apo ayth th mpanta me to Scenes... Den einai tyxaio oti kapoioi apo tous jazz mousikous filous mou stamathsan na asxolountai mazi tous meta... Kai nai, sigoura ftaine kai ta sxolia opadwn/akroatwn pou tous theopoioun sta tyfla epeidh etsi einai to sinithismeno...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kveldssanger
Δεν γίνεται να γίνουν πιο πολύ για τον πούτσο. Αισχροί, γελοίοι και άσχετοι!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotting_Christ
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Originally Posted by Stormtrooper
Wraios Stormtrooper... :thumbsup:
Afto pou eipe o Dragonlord einai swsto alla einai kai ligo pagida...To kalo einai pws einai idi sto studio kai prospathoun na min ksefigei pros ta eksw i poreia pou tha exoun ta nea kommatia,antitheta me to 6DOIT kai to TOT.
Variemai na eksigw giati oloi oi diskoi tous einai apsogoi.
KALA RE MOYNAKI, DE THA SE DW...THA DEIS ESY :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormtrooper
Ψιτ.... φιλαράκι..... ΘΑ ΜΕ ΚΛΑΣΕΙΣ Τ'ΑΡΧΙΔΙΑ :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeamflesch
Ρε μαλάκα, δεν το ήξερα ότι παίζεις κι εσύ την Τρίτη. Χτες το έμαθα.
Ω ρε γέλοια που θα γίνουν....
@ Kingryche
Μπορώ να αραδι'ασω πάααααααααρα πολλα γι'αυτό το γκρουπάκι αλλά βαριέμαι. Όλα αυτά βέβαια για το flame της υπόθεσης και για να τη σπάσω στον eyeamflesch. Αλλιώς σεβαστά τα γούστα του καθένα..... ΑΛΛΑ ΟΙ ΠΑΠΑΡΕΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΒΛΑΚΕΣ ΚΑΙ ΑΣΧΕΤΟΙ
Ευχαριστώ :)
o labrie einai gia to mpoutso pantws.
