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Εδώ μάλλον ξεκινά η διαφορά μεταξύ της άποψης που διατυπώνουμε ο nikodimos κι εγώ απ'τη δική σου. Πιστεύουμε πως υπάρχει ένα σύνολο ανθρωπίνων δικαιωμάτων που υπερισχύουν οποιασδήποτε πολιτικής ή θρησκευτικής πεποίθησης, όπως το δικαίωμα στη ζωή, στην έκφραση και στην ελεύθερη ανάπτυξη της προσωπικότητας του. Δε σου το δίνει κανείς (δε χρειάζεται), η ιδιότητα σου ως άνθρωπος στα δίνει.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel
traba grapsta ayta twra ekei poy prepei :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Deggial
kai, nai...kaneis lathos. :D
[quote=BLi][zER]Kai ksanaleo oti h DIKH MOU apopsh einai deytereyousas shmasias. To point einai oti ETSI EINAI. H allazeis koinonia h allazeis to systhma. Your choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by UmbilicalResidue
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E to thread sth8hke gia na allaksei kati sto systhma pou
merikoi de to goustaroun. Dedomenou oti egw kiesy
exoume thn epilogh allaghs koinotikou plaisiou
ennw h k. Houssaini de thn exei as mhn xrhsimopoiume
thn leksh "paketo" etsi wma. Einai pio efkolo
na thn les sto ER, de, para sto proswpo ths.
Afto einai komformismos.
Den einai eironiko na prospatheis na allakseis ena systhma pou de tha fas pote sth mapa? EKEI stathika ego. An de goustarete kati ekei pou eiste, allakste to. Alla mhn to paizete erythrostayrites prospathontas na sosete ton kosmo apo ton kanape.
Kai mhn kollas stis lekseis pou xrhsimopoio. Ekfrazomai etsi epeidh prokeitai gia forum.
Συγγνώμη, αλλά μου διαφεύγει εντελώς η ειρωνεία σε μια ανιδιοτελή πράξη. Ευτυχώς υπάρχουν και άνθρωποι που δε νοιάζονται μόνο για όσα επηρρεάζουν τη δική τους και μόνο ζωή.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLi
ti kalytero exeis na kaneis ston idio xrono?Quote:
Den einai eironiko na prospatheis na allakseis ena systhma pou de tha fas pote sth mapa?
ps0. to yfos ths parapanw erwthshs einai epi8etiko e.
Gab katarxas :pink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel
prosoxh auta pou 8a pw parakatw (kai eidika to xxx meros) einai gia ton Gabriel. de 8etei to 8ema sth diastash ti pisteuete alla se polu diaforetikh bash!
3ekiname apo to dedomeno oti h 8rhskeia einai epilogh tou ka8enos kai den epiballetai. an den to exoume auto tote milas gia ena me autous pou einai pistoi mias 8rhskeias kai exoun thn pleiopshfia (h th stratiwtikh dunamh klp) na 8etoun tous nomous tou kratous kai na anagkazoun olous tous allous na "pisteuoun" kai na akolou8oun autous tous nomous. to giati auto einai h8ika la8os einai fanero extos an exeis allh apopsh gia thn h8ikh apo to koinws apodekto.
loipon h 8rhskeia einai epilogh. kai se ena tetxio xwro (kratos, perioxh klp) pou o ka8enas pisteuei oti goustarei den mporeis na efarmozeis kanena susthma nomwn to opoio na basizetai sthn pisth enos pantodunamou 8eou.
XXX apo dw kai katw
loipon alhth epeidh mou e8i3es to ma8hmatiko mou egwismo pare giati to suthma pou proteineis den einai autosunepes. les loipon oti me kapoia krithria pou de mas apasxoloun (dhmokratika, me thn isxu klp) to ka8e kratos apofasizei na akolou8ei ena 8eo mesw auths ths pisths sthnei kai to nomiko tou susthma. proteineis oti auto leitourgei.
diafwnw
as dextoume oti auto pou les isxuei. eimaste ena pagkosmio xwrio kai eimaste organwmenoi se krath gia thn kaluterh leitourgia tou zhthmatos (leme twra e, alla afou to phges ma8hmatika, afhnw ta politikoistorikooikonomikoh8ika epixeirhmata e3w apo to sullogismo). dexomaste epishs oti oi nomoi mas ana kratos 8a exoun bash 8rhskeutikh. kanw ena zoum sto kratos. sumfwna me mia fractal logikh, apo th stigmh pou h an8rwpothta exei dextei th 8rhskeia sa bash organwshs, kai to kratos prepei na einai organwmeno katallhla. auto sthn pra3h shmainei mia topikh organwsh ana 8rhskeia, px oi nomOI tou kratous na exoun diaforetikh nomo8esia analoga me thn kuriarxh 8rhskeia. analoga prepei na einai ta pragmata kai se mikroterh klimaka, ana poleis kai ana geitonies meta.
eukola blepeis oti auto de stamata pou8ena kai eniaia nomo8esia den mporei na upar3ei afou kallista o ka8enas mporei na 8esei beto logw 8rhskeutikwn pepoi8hsewn kai ermhneiwn h' na kamei th dikh tou 8rhskeia (blepe mormonoi xexe) pou na leei oti exei dikaioma na phdaei oles tis 16xrones tou xwriou.
mhn peite plz real life epixeirhmata gia to parapanw, einai mia askhsh ths autosunepeias tou susthmatos pou proteinei o gabriel.
loipon tin apantisi auti tha tin kanw c/p kathe fora pou kapoios tha katakrinei to politiko systima stin Tourkia (exoume tsakwthei polles fores)Quote:
Originally Posted by BLi
symfwnw. Exeis dikio. Omws yparxoun kai kapoia anthrwpina dikaiwmata pou exoume ypoxrewsi ws onta na yperaspistoume. H ypothesi tis Nigirianis den einai politiko zitima (wste na min polyanakateutoume), alla koinwnikothriskeutiko. Sou dinw en merei dikio gia to "sto mpoutso mas", giati den einai oute to prwto oute to teleutaio symvan, sti Saoudiki Aravia ginontai xeirotera kai kaneis de noiazete.
Omws tis afrikanes mousoulmanes tis lypamai perissotero, giati synithws den kseroun ti paizei me to islam, ti kanones prepei na akolouthoun klp, polloi einai akoma paganistes, kanoun auto pou tha ekane kathe normal anthrwpos kai apla erxetai kapoios kai tous leei "auto pou kaneis den einai swsto kai prepei na pethaneis".
me tin idia logiki omws de tha eprepe na anakateuomai kai otan o geitonas spaei ti gynaika tou sto ksylo kai gamaei tin kori touQuote:
Originally Posted by BLi
i peritomi (aneu iatrikou logou) den einai afairesi aksioprepeiasQuote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel
synexiste
katalavainw olous tous syllogismous, omws thewrw ton tropo antidrasis lathos.
kaneis den proteinei mia lysi pou ikanopoiei kai tis dyo pleures. O Islamistis leei pws i poutana pou ton ntropiase prepei na pethanei. O dytikos leei ton islamisti apolitisto kafro kai thelei na swsei tin kopela. Ok ws edw.
Symfwnw en merei me ton Blitzer kai katigorw tous dytikous gia yperopsia. Prospathoun na epemvoun se ena systima pou den einai diko tous kai na epivalloun tis apopseis tous. Auto den einai kalo.
Apo tin alli to na meineis apragos kai na les st'arxidia mou, episis den einai kalo (ws politis exeis ypoxrewsi).
Opote psaxneis gia enallaktikes lyseis. H enallaktiki lysi tha itan i nigiriani auti na mi thanatwthei, alla afou oloi lyssaksan na ti swsoun, as tis dwsei mia dytiki xwra asylo. De mporeis na epemvaineis prospathwntas na allakseis kati, xwris na eisai prothymos na kaneis praktika kati
Auta
kai sas yposxomai na prospathisw na stamatisw na grafw san 7xrono :|
einai afairesh petsakIouQuote:
Originally Posted by enitharmon
ενδεχομένως και πουτσακίου άμα αστοχήσει ο γιατρόςQuote:
Originally Posted by nikodimos
Na se pw kai poy diafwnaw Gabriel: diafwnaw sto oti, kata ti gnwmi moy, einai themito na deixneis se allous politizmoys alles odoys "yparksis" kai na toys afsieis na tis epeksergastous - ama goystaroyn tis perpatoyn, an oxi cool.
de diafwnw. ton ekana to diaxwrismo. allo h abiasth protash, to suggestion kai allo o proshlitismos/kyrhgma/hthikh stayroforia.
