w3w pousth ap thn paraga... :P
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w3w pousth ap thn paraga... :P
Egw poustara den eimai alla gia 'sena glyko agori ante na bgw..................Quote:
Originally Posted by TRAMPAKOULAS
Mia kai aneferthike kati sto poll 1984vs2004 skefthka na to metaferw kai edw dioti edw bgazei kai perissotero nohma...
Mhpws telika emeis (kai me to emeis ennow tous opadous tou paliou hxou basika) exoume arxisei na symbibazomaste me kyklofories (nees ennow) oi opoies mono kai mono epeidh mas thymizoun ligo apo 80s feeling h kapoio sygkrothma emeis katalhgoume na tis proskyname. Egw proswpika exw piasei ton eayto mou ouk oliges fores na to kanw ayto kai den to thewrw aparaithta arnhtiko alla mallon anagkaio kako...
kai gia na kanw arxh ths koubentas egw thn pathsa etsi me tous majesty alla dikaiologw ton eauto mou dioti den eixan bgalei akoma disko meta to louder than hell oi manowar kai me eixe piasei syndromo sterhshs.
afto pou les me vriskei apolyta symfwno.vasika den einai droph na paradextoume oti to heavy metal den borese pote 3ana na ftasei ta standards ths do3as kai ths dhmotikothtas pou eixa pisw sta 80s.tote yphrxan bandes-odhgoi pou edeixnan to dromo, onomata pou 3ekinontas apo to underground, kataferan na afhsoun to diko tous 3exwristo shmadi ekeinh thn epoxh.poly diaforetika ta pragmata.yphrxe kai mia "a8wwthta" sthn olh fash.oute polye8nikes, oute 3epoulhmata gia ligh do3a (plhn gnwstwn e3airesewn).twra oi misoi apo autous pou pianoun mia ki8ara h ena mikrofwno skeftontai to pws 8a ginoun gnwstoi paizontas mousikh pou 8a aresei sto euru koino.to undergound kinhma einai arketa periorismeno se sxesh me ta 80s opote meiwnontai kai oi a3iologes bandes pou vgainoun ston afro meta apo kapoia xronia.
den lew pws oti vgainei twra einai skata.pros 8eou.yparxoun group me poly a3iologes kyklofories.apla auta einai elaxista.anti8eta vriskeis ena swro metriothtes kai apo thn anagh sou na akouseis kati kainourgio kai gamato, vaftizeis 8eiko kati pou prin merika xronia isws kai na mhn ypologizes kan.to epa8a me to 3epetagma twn hammerfall kai tous dyo prwtous diskous tous opws kai me to deutero rhapsody.
Polles pantws mpantes pou ftaixnontai shmera den exoun mono skopo na ginoun gnwstoi alla theloun na ginoun kai synexistes twn 80s kai ayto pou me ksenerwnei arketes fores einai aytoi pou theloun na ginoun synexistes ths undergound 80s skhnhs kai se ena pososto poly pshlo den ta katafernoun. Syn tois allois h mageia exei xathei se tetoio bathmo pou akomh kai sygkrothmata tou 80s underground pou prospathoun na kanoun kati pali, den fainetai na ta katafernoun me trano paradeigma oi manilla road oi opoioi kai me tis dyo teleytaies prospahteies den kataferan kai polla pragmata imo. Kai enw o Shelton einai kalyteros mousikos sygkritika me to parelthon den kanei kai akti to idiaitero synthetika. Parolayta eimai sigouros oti polu apo emas tha poun oti kserw gw px to atlantis rising einai enas kalos diskos pistos ston hxo twn manilla alla ayto den leei tpt. Pantws mhn parekshgithw den ta bazw me tous manilla. Trefw megalo sebasmo gia aytous akomh kai gia to atlantis rising...
Kata vash symfono me osa lete.
Pantos kai piso sta 80s ta pragmata sthn Ellada den htan katholou "athoa" kai "romantika"... Apo pou na ksekiniso? Apo tous "opadous" pou akougan mono maiden/priest/motorhead/sabbath/acdc kai thn eixan dei kings of metal? Apo tous pio psagmenous pou kratousan gia ton eayto tous ta osa hkseran? Apo tous megalyterous pou otan s evlepan me t-shirt tou x group, se paizane trivial pursuit gia na doun an eisai true enough gia na foras to t-shirt?
De mporw na symfwnisw pio poly.Ayto to ILITHIO yfos twn pio psagmenwn "mikre ama de ksereis tous tade paratata" einai ayto pou me ekneyrizei pio polly.Aytoi oi metalopateres mou zalizoune t'arxidia poly asxhma.Ki an exw ksebaytistei me tetoious typous kata kairous.A sixtir mounopana.Kai ama de goustareis tis mpantes pou akoune aytoi kai goustareis kati allo sou lene ki oti de ksereis ki apo mousikh.Karagkiozodes yparxoun pantou.Quote:
Originally Posted by warlord
Γιατί χρησιμοποιείς παρατατικό; Δεν ισχύουν πλέον αυτά;Quote:
Originally Posted by warlord
Επίσης, πρόσθεσε στο τέλος ένα "από αυτούς που θεωρούν τις γκόμενες ανάξιες να μιλάνε για h.m."
Plus μια ερώτηση για Thor: πώς γίνεται να την πατήσεις με τους Majesty;
Για μένα οι τύποι πήγαν να εκμεταλλευτούν με κραυγαλέο τρόπο τις όποιες αξίες προωθούσαν οι Manowar χρησιμοποιώντας πανομοιότυπο στίχο (να μη μιλήσουμε καν για τη μουσική γιατί το γερμανικό σύνδρομο στην περίπτωσή τους....), ενώ κάνει μπαμ ότι ούτε οι ίδιοι δεν πιστεύουν αυτά που λένε (σε αντίθεση με -παραδόξως- αρκετό κόσμο. Κι ας μην το γυρίσουμε σε Manowar-ο-συζήτηση aka another Manowar flame.
Kai oi treis diskoi einai aksiologotatoi.Quote:
to epa8a me to 3epetagma twn hammerfall kai tous dyo prwtous diskous tous opws kai me to deutero rhapsody.
Se genikes grammes simfwnw kai egw pantws.
Basika sthn ellada ekeinh thn epoxh htan palaiolithika kai oxi athwa. Den nomizw na mporousan sthn ellada (milaw etsi giati den prolaba thn dekaeitia tou 80 mousika, arxisa na asxoloumai 92-93) na broun diskous sygkrothmatwn pera apo aytwn pou aneferes dioti kai h katastash sthn ellada htan ligo (mallon arketa) diaforetikh apo shmera (dioti mousika den prolaba th dekaetia tou 80 alla thn ezhsa olh). Kai mhn ksexname oti eidika sthn ellada to heavy metal den thewreito ayto pou emeis thelw na pisteyw thewroume shmera. Dld tote to heavy metal htan ena parakladi ths alhtikhs zwhs, zwhs twn ghpedwn (blepe pano ghpedou motorhead-thyra 13, apo tainies "ta tsakalia" klp) kai epomenws aytoi oi anthrwpoi pote pragmatika den endiaferthikan na psaksoun ligo parapanw to heavy metal kai gi'ayto enw sth dekaetia tou 80 h eyrwph kai h amerikh apodexotan sxedon sto synolo ths to heavy metal eite ws glam eite ws poser klp emeis tote sth pswrokwstaina legame oti to heavy metal einai mousikh tou diabolou gia alhtes. Pou thelw na katalhksw me ola ayta. Opws se ola pagkosmia drwmena eite mousika eite modas eite kai egw den kserw ti allo h ellada kalws h kakws einai gyrw sth mia dekaetia pisw oson afora ta mousika kai dh tou underground heavy metal th dekaetia tou 90 kai isws ligo argotera phrame xampari ti synaibene ston kosmo th dekaetia tou 80 kai giayto twra theloume na zhsoume ligo apo keinh thn athwa epoxh proskynontas opoiodhpote sygkrothma mas th thymizei estw kai ligo. Den mas kathgorw fysiko einai ayto pou symbainei kai egw ayto kanw athela mou. Pantws ta mounopana pou kratousan gia ton eauto tous kapoia pragmata akoma yparxoun kai eksakolouthoun na kanoun ta idia. Mia zwh ayto tha mas trwei...
@ The_Painless: to thema einai aplo gia tous majesty, an meneis gia spoudes se mia eparxia (hrakleio) pou den exei tpt ths prokophs apo metallikh koinothta kai kyklofories, akomh kai oi majesty sou fainontai epikoi. Btw to ena disko tous pou exw ton akousa to polu 10 fores giati meta me prolaban oi manowar (den to kanw manowarokoubenta apla to anaferw)
Kaneis lathos. To Happening, to RC kai to Diskadiko ths Athinas eixan ths panagias ta matia tote. Kai to Hammer (Heavy metal tote) eixe foverh ylh. H nootropia ton opadon htan kai einai h idia: "akouo 5 mpantes kai eimai metallo".Quote:
Den nomizw na mporousan sthn ellada (milaw etsi giati den prolaba thn dekaeitia tou 80 mousika, arxisa na asxoloumai 92-93) na broun diskous sygkrothmatwn pera apo aytwn pou aneferes dioti kai h katastash sthn ellada htan ligo (mallon arketa) diaforetikh apo shmera (dioti mousika den prolaba th dekaetia tou 80 alla thn ezhsa olh).
Tote malakia, kammenoi tote kammenoi twra
diavasa osa grapsate paides kai symfwnw se arketa pragmata
mhn berdevoume omws ta 80s sthn ellada meta ta 80s san epoxh gia thn pagosmia metal skhnh.to metal arghse na er8ei sthn ellada.gia na fantasteite, o prwtos heavy metal diskos (ypoti8etai...) htan to vice human tou 84, to opoio htan hard rock!!!paparia mantoles dhladh, akoma kai h tsexoslovakia h h polwnia evgazan metal group (pou eixan kai kommounismo...) kai emeis koimwmastan ton ypno tou dikaiou.olos o kosmos htan gematos apo metallika entypa kai fanzines kai emeis edw eixame to heavy metal (metepeita metal hammer) to opoio eixe apokleistika metafrasmena keimena apo 3ena periodika.epairnan tis synenteu3eis tou ka8e mhna apo ta pio emborika group kai etsi syne8etan to ka8e teuxos.sthn ousia loipon to metal sthn ellada den hr8e san ena pagosmio mousiko kinhma, me bandes pou 3epetagontan apo to underground, pa8iasmeno koino pou yposthrize th skhnh ktl, alla eftase san proion eisagwghs kai oi opadoi htan mallon "katanalwtes" para energa melh mias metal koinothtas.h metallikh koultoura mallon fantaze "e3wtikh" kai "apagorevmenh" ston ellhna kai etsi to metal den arghse na proselkhsei diafora frouta opws antie3ousiastes, xouligania, katapiesmenous kai loipous tetraplhgikous.hsoun prezoni pou ta espage sto ghpedo ka8e kyriakh?e tote 8a akouges motorhead kai iron maiden... akoma kai twra, pistevw pws h ellada pairnei to xryso metallio se oti afora thn "katestramenh" syn8esh tou metallikou koinou ths ka8ws apo to metal pernane (kai eytyxws meta apo liga xronia fevgoun) oloi oi katapiesmenoi, psyxika asta8eis, anasfaleis kai antidrastikoi ths koinwnias...
ousiastika to ena kai monadiko entypo pou yphrxe tote, edine mia grammh kai o kosmos akolou8ouse.mia xoufta an8rwpoi sthn ousia ka8orisan th metallikh tautothta tou topou mas.mhna para mhna eixes e3wfyllo tous maiden.e pws na mhn gineis sygamenos?giauto kai h ellada einai to teleutaio propygrio tou maidenismou kai ths maidenoplh3ias.einai pleon sto dna mas... den yphrxe polysyllektikothta sta akousmata kai ta anagnwsmata.pws na ma8eis gia to undergound?pws na ma8eis gia xiliades bandes pou stis "prohgmenes" metallika xwres, opws amerikh kai germania, ekanan 8raush?o warlord leei gia to happening kai to diskadiko ths a8hnas.nai eixan papades.manilla, candlemass, cirith ungol me 750 kai 990 drx.o logos omws pou ta eixan sxedon panta sthn prosfora (enw ta maiden kai ta metallica htan stis 1600 drx) htan giati o kosmos DEN TA H3ERE!pws 8a ta ma8ainan arage?to metal forces sthn agglia evgaine me e3wfyllo liege lord kai mesa egrafe gia 8eous kai daimones.olh h skhnh ths amerikhs kai ths agglias, demos, synavlies, synenteu3eis.edw ti diavaze o kosmos?gia motley crue, motorhead kai maiden...
egw otan 3ekinhsa to 92 na asxoloumai me to metal, den synanthsa autous tous periergous typous pou anaferate me ta "trivia" kai th "metallopaterosynh".den vrhka atoma pou 8a mou ekanan "embargo" sth dipsa mou gia mousikh.anti8eta vrhka ligous filous pou eixan thn kavla na akousoun metal kai na ma8oun nea pragmata opws egw.vrhka omws kai tous klassikous sygkamenous twn 5 sygrothmatwn pou anafertate, atoma pou yparxoun akoma kai shmera, proionta ths epoxhs pou anefera sthn arxh.apla tote den vriskame na akousoume albums.den yphrxe enas na mas grapsei mia kasseta virgin steele h manilla road, anti8eta evriskes 500 atoma na sou grapsoun maiden h metallica.h ylh tou metal hammer borei na mhn htan to skoupidi pou einai shmera alla kai tote eixe tragikes eleipseis kai fysika ekane thn klassikh avanda sta "megala" group voh8wntas sth "dhmiourgia" twn arthriosklhrwtikwn twn 4-5 sugrothmatwn.autoi htan to embodio, sth 8elhsh mou gia ma8hsh kai oxi oi "metallopateres", pou sto katw katw yphrxe kai mia pi8anothta na apokomiseis kai kati apo autous.
tespa, h ypo8esh "metal kai ellada" einai ateleiwth...
8a poume kai alla sto mellon
Kala milame ,EDW KI AN DIAFWNW.Quote:
Originally Posted by TRAMPAKOULAS
Otan sta 90ies eskages sto Rock City sth swksratous me mplouzaki Megadeth sou thn epefte akomh kai o TRIVLAKAS pou douleye ekei kai se rwtage malakies.
Otan ithela na parw Cirith Ungol (ayto de prokeite na to ksexasw pote) hrthe o typas sto Happening(o opoios forage t-shirt Guardian),me blepei na krataw to cd sto xeri kai mou leei olos yfaki "exeis akousei pote Cirith Ungol mikre?".Oxi tou lew "alla exw diabasei ki exw akousei apo radio kai pistetyw oti gamane",egw entometaksy n'arxizw na fortwnw asxhma.Synexizei "gia n'akouseis Cirith Ungol prepei prwta n'akouseis alles mpantes.Virgin Steele exeis akousei?".Apanthsh "oxi alla an einai paromoioi me tis psoloxymenes aderfares pou foras sto t-shirt sou -eixa akousei Guardian blepete kai mou aaareeesaaaan- na menei".
TI MALAKIES EIN'AYTES?Giati prepei na exoume ena pitsiriki sto steno markarisma kai na to paizoume gamikles kai kinites Heavy Metal bibliothikes?Kai sto katw-katw apla exeis perisoterous diskous.SO FUCKIN' WHAT?
NA PANE NA GAMITHOUNE!Kala ekane h Reborn Classics,h Hot Metal kai h kathe tetoia etereia.Epanakyklofories na ta mathainei o kosmakhs gia na mi mas zalizoune t'arxidia.
Kai h allh h klassikh h ataka pou akouga tote (kai akomh kai twra merikes fores)HEAVY METAL GIA LIGOUS! :rofl: :rofl:
DHLADH GAMW TH POUTANA MOU!
RE EPANAKYKLOFORIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nai alla ayto to gegonos pisteuw oti se ekane na skyliaseis kai na mhn stamathseis pote na akous ayto pou goustareis.Egw toylaxiston etsi tha skeftomoun.Epomenws basika den diafwneis me kanenan apla theteis to thema ligo diaforetika. Antistoixa mou exoun symbei kai se mena alla me ton typa tou rock city (an kai telika apodeixtike oti eixe dikio :D ). Alla ayto den shmaine pote tpt (pantws kai egw fortwna se kathe periptwsh). Panta oti goustara akouga eite mou thn elegan oi "metalopaterades" eite opoiosdhpote allo kai sto katw katw ayto prepei na einai to moto tou "swstou metalla" kata th gnwmh mou kai to bazw se eisagwgika dioti den yparxei swsto kai lathos se ayto pou syzhtame alla kata poso thelei kapoios pou legetai metallas (an kai pote den mou arese ayth h tampela) na einai eilikrinhs me ton eayto toy. Goustarei thn tampela akougontas o,ti tou pasaroun oi "paterades" h na akouei oti goustarei kai na einai metallas mono gia thn party tou kai kanenan allon?