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οκ. ανελυσε τωρα.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Theodore Cartman
File mou, den yperaspizete kaneis tis dynameis twn manadogiagiadwn tou. Afto pou eipes htan akyro, eksou kai o pontikas.
Epipleon, sou eipa gia to peirama mou, pou -mallon- deixnei oti den einai ypobolh.
ypoti8ete pws to matiasma exei na kanei me 8rhskia.H proseuxh pou lene anaferete sto 'Ypshsto'. To pws kai to giati den mporoume na to ejhghsoume alla exw dei apeires fores to ladi na dyaliete msea sto nero.Exw akousei opws kai oloi sas fantazome oti to mati exei ka8hlwsei kosmo sto krevati.Pws ejhghte na eisai arwstos, oi giatroi na mhn jeroun ti exeis, kai ena jematiasma na se kanei kala? Who knows..?
I BLAKEIA TOY TZOI ALLEN DEN EINAI APISTEfTI/YPERYSIKIA?Quote:
Originally Posted by necropethamenos
Egw ypostirizw oti den exei kamia sxesh to ti tha peis, an tha einai proseuxh 'h embathrio 'h o ethnikos ymnos. Afta einai apla to meson. Apla mas exoun kollhsei me tin thriskeutikh plevra kai osoi ksematiazoun vasizontai se afto. Den kserw an me pianeis, isws den lew akrivws oti ennow, einai dyskoulo. :|Quote:
Originally Posted by Meyaleleth
An aftos pou ksematiazei gnwrize kai pisteve stin dynamh tou myalou tou kai oxi se afto pou epikaleitai, tha mporouse na ksematiasei in a flick of an eye.
En tw metaksy egw mporei na lew tis apisteftes malakies twra, alla den peirazei. Afto pou ennow einai oti DEN kseroume tis dynameis tou myalou mas, alla emmesoi tropoi na xrhsimopoihsoume merikes, pernane apo genia se genia.
oxi den les malakies.Pisteuw poly sthn dynamh tou an8rwpinou myalou kai sto gegonos oti mporoume pragmatika na kanoume pragmata pou pote den 8a fantazomastan arkei na thn psajoume thn douleia.To 8ema einai pws einai dyskolo na analyseis to matiasma ,to ti einai ti to prokalei kai pws ejoudeterwnete .
(δε ξέρω τι ακολούθησε μετά από αυτό το ποστ, τώρα τα διαβάζω. Κάνατε και 7 σελίδες απ'το πρωί).Quote:
Originally Posted by katwrimos
Το λάδι διαλύεται στο νερό, αν εισαχθεί στο διάλυμα αλκοόλη, αιθέρας, διάφορα συστατικά που περιέχουν τα συνθετικά απορρυπαντικά, κ.α. Εάν το λάδι δεν είναι καθαρό (νοθευμένο ή πρόσμιξη με άλλα λάδια), τότε μπορεί σαφώς να διαλυθεί.
Δεδομένου πως χρησιμοποιείται το ίδιο λάδι και άλλοτε διαλύεται, άλλοτε όχι, δεν ξέρω αν μπορεί να φταίει το νερό (το γεγονός πως προέρχεται απ'την ίδια βρύση δε λέει και πολλά). Θα ρωτήσω τον πατέρα μου (χημικός μηχανικός) μήπως μπορεί να με διαφωτίσει.
με αυτά που διάβασα σήμερα, θα έλεγα ότι η εκάστοτε θρησκεία έχει προσαρμοστεί στο μάτιασμα. η βασκανία είναι αρχαία πεποίθηση ότι μπορεί να γίνει. απλά, η εκκλησία (όποια κι αν είναι αυτή - η αναζήτηση της εξουσίας δεν είναι "προνόμοιο" μόνο του χριστιανισμού) έδωσε την απλοϊκή της εξήγηση και άλλη μια δύναμη στους παπάδες...Quote:
Originally Posted by Meyaleleth
axa
Κανείς δε σε θεωρεί αφελή ή βλάκα, εξαιρουμένου του katwrimou που μαλακίζεται σε αυτό το thread. Έχεις μια άποψη και είναι σεβαστή.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonlord
Δεν αντιλέγω πως πράγματι έχεις δει λάδι να διαλύεται στο νερό ή η κοπέλα σου κουτάλι να λυγίζει, απλώς έχουμε διαφορετική προσέγγιση στα δυο αυτά γεγονότα. Και, όπως εύκολα συμπεραίνει κανείς από 17 σελίδες που λέμε τα ίδια, καλύτερα απλώς να συμφωνήσουμε πως διαφωνούμε.
To post tou deggial exei vasi.
kala den perimena logikh apantish apo thn ekklhsia, h proseyxh pou lene einai enas wraios tropos wste h ekklhsia na vampirizei to plhthos. olh h xristianikh thriskeia einai ena wraio mix paganistikwn thriskeiwn tis opoies katapatise kai daimonopoihse. ena matso diaoloi me ftera aggelou einai oloi tous. opws elege kai o megas Aleksis Zorbas, thn katara sas na exw "agioi" pateres.
opws eipe kai o ravenlord to kalo kai to kako einai ypokeimenika. oi pragmatikes dynameis einai h dhmiourgia kai h katastrofh, h taksh kai to xaos.
ean psakete oles tis palies thrikeies den exoun kammia sxesh me ton xristianismo. kai opws eipa, h mageia einai ths fyshs, den yparxei kapoia allh ontotita pou ta kanei ayta alla mono o ekastote magos.
alla mhn mperdeyeste. den einai "kaloi" oi paganistes kai oi samanoi. idioi diaoloi einai kai aytoi. exoun kanei kai aytoi ta egklimata tous. ama thelete mia syvoulh, PROSEXETE OSOUS EXOUN "AORATOUS" FILOUS KAI PLATY XAMOGELO.
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One of the greatest of all fallacies about the practice of ritual magic is the notion that one must believe in the powers of
magic before one can be harmed or destroyed by them. Nothing could be farther from the truth, as the most receptive victims of
curses have always been the greatest scoffers. The reason is frighteningly simple. The uncivilized tribesman is the first to run to
his nearest witchdoctor or shaman when he feels a curse has been placed upon him by an enemy. The threat and presence of harm
is with him consciously, and belief in the power of the curse is so strong that he will take every precaution against it. Thus,
through the application of sympathetic magic,
he will counteract any harm that might come his way. This man is watching his step, and not taking any chances.
On the other hand, the "enlightened" man, who doesn't place any stock in such "superstition," relegates his instinctive fear
of the curse to his unconscious, thereby nourishing it into a phenomenally destructive force that will multiply with each
succeeding misfortune. Of course, every time a new setback occurs, the non-believer will automatically deny any connection with
the curse, especially to himself. This emphatic conscious denial of the potential of the curse is the very ingredient that will create
its success, through setting-up of accident prone situations. In many instances, the victim will deny any magical significance to his
fate, even unto his dying gasp-although the magician is perfectly satisfied, so long as his desired results occur. It must be
remembered that it matters not whether anyone attaches any significance to your working, so long as the results of the working are
in accordance with your will. The super-logician will always explain the connection of the magical ritual to the end result as
"coincidence."
Whether magic is performed for constructive or destructive purposes, the success of the operation is dependent on the
receptivity of the person who is to receive the blessing or curse, as the case may be. In the case of a sex or compassion ritual, it helps if the recipient has faith and believes in magic, but the victim of a hex or curse is much more prone to destruction if he
DOES NOT believe in it! So long as man knows the meaning of fear, he will need the ways and means to defend himself against
his fears. No one knows everything, and as long as there is wonder, there will always be an apprehension of the unknown, where
there are potentially dangerous forces. It is this natural fear of the unknown, a first cousin to the fascination towards the
unknown, that impels the man of logic towards his very explanations. Obviously, the man of science is motivated to discovery by
his very sense of wonder. And yet, how sad that this man who calls himself logical is often the last to recognize the essence of
ritual magic.
If religious faith and fervor can make bleeding wounds
appear on the body in approximation to the wounds supposedly inflicted on Christ, it is called stigmata. These wounds appear as
a result of compassion driven to an emotionally violent extreme. Why, then, should there be any doubt as to the destructive
extremes of fear and terror. The so-called demons have the power to destroy in a flesh rending manner, theoretically, as much as a
handful of nails, long rusted away, can create blood-dripping ecstasy in a person convinced he is hooked upon the cross of
Calvary.
Therefore, never attempt to convince the skeptic upon whom you wish to place a curse. Allow him to scoff. To enlighten
him would lessen your chance of success. Listen with benign assurance as he laughs at your magic, knowing his days are filled
with turmoil all the while. If he is despicable enough, he might even die-laughing.
Σαφώς ενσωμάτωσε παραδόσεις παλαιότερων δυτικών πολιτισμών (π.χ. το easter bunny των καθολικών προέρχεται από δρουιδική παράδοση), σαφώς δαιμονοποίησε άλλες θεότητες (Lucifer, Marduk, κ.λπ.) αλλά η βάση της είναι διαφορετική, καθώς ξεκίνησε σχεδόν αυτόνομα από τον Εβραϊκό λαό, οι οποίοι σε μερικές ιστορικές περιόδους ήταν πολιτισμικά απομονωμένοι.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Mov
+ oti h evraikh thrhskeia exei th vash ths ston zwroastrianismo, kai xrhsimopoiei eikones apo thn arxaia aigyptiakh thrhskeia.
Γεγονός φυσικό, δεδομένης της ιστορίας του εβραϊκού λαού. Δεν είναι κάτι περίεργο, ούτε καταπάτηση άλλων θρησκειών. Ομοίως η πίστη του βουντού, όπως μεταφέρθηκε στην Αμερική με τα σκλαβοκάραβα, επηρρεάστηκε απ'το χριστιανισμό και έγιναν κάποιες τροποποιήσεις.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Mov
Παρεπιπτόντως, η δαιμονοποίηση θεών άλλων θρησκειών είναι ένα καλό παράδειγμα πώς μεταβάλλεται η χριστιανική πίστη μέσα στους αιώνες. Ενώ παλαιότερα θεωρούσαν κάθε άλλη θρησκεία ως δημιούργημα του διαβόλου που παραπλανεί, η αναπόφευκτη επαφή με άλλους πολιτισμούς οδήγησε σε πιο μετριοπαθείς στάσεις.
