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23-10-2003, 23:38
Martyan Druyd

twra malista re charmer..ekanes ena post ths prokophs...symfwnw mazi sou APOLYTA peri tou "epic feeling" dioti tis idies bades kai alles toses goustarw ki egw kai arketoi alloi...(oi opioi dystyxws einai ligoi se sxesh me ton ellhna {heavy metal} fan..ton oro epic xeston kalytera...)..opws anefera kai sto parapanw post mou (back sthn prohgoumenh selida) sou fanerwnw kapia paradeigmata opou fanhke oti einai adynath h eborikh epityxia..mias kai sta proanafertheda live shows alla kai se analoga ths ellhnikhs HEAVY METAL skhnhs(*pou einai mia apo tis kalyteres evrwpaikes apo plevras badwn toso sta 80s oso kai twra..*..analysh gia thn ellhnikh skhnh allh fora..) fanhkan kapies adynamies apo plevras "opadwn"afths ths mousikhs....egw pistevw oti to provlhma ofeiletai perisoterous stous opadous telospadwn ki oxi toso stis bades....kalitexnika kapote oloi oi KALOI kataksionodai..opws fanhke me polles apo aftes tis 70s/80s ktl bades..(*gia oles xreiazdai aiwnes na milhsoume kai tha xreiastoume kai thn vohtheia eidikwn/sylektwn/dhmosiografwn..)..charmer exeis pali mia proswpikh apopsh epi tou thematos domhmenh me ton diko sou tropo...alla gamw thn poutana mou parathrw "kena" kai den se lamvanw plhrws!!ahaha.....mhpws spoudases tipota sxetika me filosofia kai dhmosiografia??ahah......FYSIKA kai oi manilla road kai oi cirith ungol den einai epic metal...oute fysika kai oi kata ta alla sybatheis motley crue..giati aploustata kata thn gnwmh mou o oros DEN yfistatai..!!!..den thalega oti o epic fan latrevei enan hxo kai production..alla o mesos (ellhnas) metal fan genika.....file mou,h mageia olh einai sto feeling afto pou eite thanai epiko eite thanai kati diaforetiko..kai dystyxws apodykneietai oti ligoi..have felt the magic of burning metal nowadays....thanx pou apadhses sto post mou padws..eixa thn edypwsh oti anaferosoun se allous anthrwpous tou metal me ta legomena sou.(ki isws oxi se emena)..SAFTOUS POU LATREVOUN ENAN HXO MIA PARAGWGH...dhladh tipota to ousiastiko.....oso gia to underground metal..pada prosfere kai akomh prosferei arkei na to psaksei kaneis...... padws an bades san tous angel,dust,slb kai alles twn 80s akougan thn katadia tou shmera...den tha tous pianan ta klammata pou den eginan gnwstoi kai eborika epityxhmenoi....alla tha gelagane oloi tous!!..kai telika tha katalhksoume sto syberasma tou oti oti den einai mainstream logiko einai na mhn "poulaei"...
23-10-2003, 23:55
Martyan Druyd

....kai gia na gelasoume kai ligo....kathe sovarh koinothta pou den exei akousei to"argus"lp twn Wishbone Ash kai to "emerald" mnhmeio twn Thin Lizzy....DEN dikaioutai na koitazetai..oute na yparxei.....
24-10-2003, 00:15
Amnesiac.

gelasame.
a sto kalo sou.
24-10-2003, 00:36
WoTaN

egw distixws den mporo na katalabw ton Inside...
dld to Ninth Wave twn Manilla i to Nadsokor twn Cirith Ungol den vgazoun epiko feeling?
30-10-2003, 16:51
Inside Charmer

Ta kommatia pou anafereis Wotan fysika einai epic tou kerata, alla mia mpanta den xarakthrizetai apo memonomena tracks, dioti fer'eipein oi Manilla Road exoun kai polla kommatia pou DEN einai epic.Mono oi Manowar kykloforhsan ena album pou perilambanei MONO epic tragoudia...
Telos panton, to thema einai oti to neo Doomsword einai ekplhktiko kai bgazei apisteuto epiko/polemiko feeling. O Deathmaster ta katafere.Proteino na akousete kai to neo Grand Magus pou epishs bgazei mpoliko epic/norse feeling.
30-10-2003, 17:32
WoTaN

Katalaba pos to theteis.Apla etsi opos ta les den yparxoun elaxistes mpantes pou na pezoun epiko metal.
Tespa opos to dei kaneis :)
30-10-2003, 18:29
The Butcher

egw den exw prosdiorisei ti diafora metaksy tou "vgazw epiko feeling" k paizw epic metal". mporeite na ma voithisete? episis poio einai to album twn manowar pou perilamvanei mono epic tragoudia?
30-10-2003, 18:48
Buddy Lackey

xm polles mpantes lene oti paizoun epic metal, alla den vgazoun epiko feeling, that simple
defteri erotisi:hail to england
30-10-2003, 18:55
rincewind2k

xm to omwnymo kai to army of immortals? kala pragmati exoun epic epikalypsh
30-10-2003, 18:58
Buddy Lackey

afta ta dio den exoun epiki mousiki,refrains,riffs klp dld e
petreeees petwww tou feggariouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
30-10-2003, 18:58
The Butcher

a kala ayto einai standard alla den einai k ypokeimeniko? poios mporei na einai aytos pou tha orisei to epiko feeling? einai kati safws prosdiorismeno dld? episis i erwtisi mou itan ligo diaforetiki. rwtousa ti diafora metaksy tou "paizw epic metal" k "vgazw epiko feeling". dld, an kapoios paizei metal k vgazei epiko feeling, mporoume na poume oti paizei epic metal? an nai, tote giati na leme gia diafores mpantes oti "vgazoun epiko feeling" alla "den einai epic metal"? anyway, oxi oti exei k kammia simasia stin ousia...
...k gia tous manowar, de nomizw oti to hail to england vgazei synolika perissotero epiko synaisthima apo to sign of the hammer px... i k ap'to into glory ride. vevaia ayto pali einai ypokeimeniki apopsi... k ok einai mataio, den tha kathomoun pote na skeftw poso pragmatika "epiko" einai to kathena ap'ta kommatia kapoiwn diskwn, pou en telei tous akouw k mou aresoun k poly!
30-10-2003, 19:01
Buddy Lackey

simfonw oti to into glory ride sto sinolo tou einai pio epiko, alla den exei simasia na to yperanalioume toso.Aplws to "hail to england" den exei kanena song se styl "warlord" , "animal" klp.
epishs to ti einai epic metal , epiko feeling klp einai mia terastia sizitisi , opws exw xiliopei stin ousia den iparxei eidos "epic metal"
30-10-2003, 19:07
The Butcher

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Originally Posted by Buddy Lackey

opws exw xiliopei stin ousia den iparxei eidos "epic metal"

i apopsi mou einai oti stin ousia den yparxei i ennoia "eidos" otan milame gia mousiki... alla dystyxws alliws exoun ta pragmata simera...
30-10-2003, 19:09
Buddy Lackey

afto pou les twra einai gia akoma pio terastia sizitisi ....
30-10-2003, 19:10
The Butcher

:)
30-10-2003, 19:18
symposium_lexotanil

o oros epik metal efeurethike apo ilithious pou niothoun antres legontas akouo "epic metal".
auta
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akouste amon amarth
30-10-2003, 19:36
VirusXI

hm h diafora einai sto 'epic' metal kai sto 'epic' heavy metal.
to epic heavy metal kata me einai maidenies pou lene stous stixous gia spa8akia kai istories k tpt parapanw.
oi Doomsword einai epic metal sketo.
ayta. eyxaristw.
30-10-2003, 21:32
WoTaN

Oi pio epikoi diskoi einai to Into Glory Ride kai to Hammerheart twn Bathory.-
30-10-2003, 21:44
VirusXI

polu psilosymfwnoume teleytaia kai anyshxw... opws exw ksanapei
31-10-2003, 02:01
Martyan_Druyd

im back....symfwnw ki egw sxedwn se ola me tous perisoterous parapanw!!!ousiastika pezoume me tis lekseis epiko feeling kai"epic metal" edw..isws o oros epic metal na mhn isxyei omws.....alla me thn mlkia pou dernei arketous metalades egine evevresh orou.....opws kai afto to kakogousto"true"metal.....(oros germanikhs patedas mallon..)..apo kei kai pera gia thn ekseliksh/poreia/istoria tou (hard)Rock kai kata synepeia tou Heavy Metal....as anoikthei ena allo topic ala as mhn ginei poutana ki as grapsoun oloi me tis gnwseis sth "mousikh"afth pou akoune telospadwn..(alla kai pali kati tetio ligo dyskolo...opote gamhste to...oute kan gia syzhthsh den prosferetai to thema)
31-10-2003, 10:48
warlord

"epic metal" = ellhnikh patenta. Olos o ypoloipos planhths den kserei ti shmainei aytos o oros kai kala kanei.
Oi idioi oi hgetes (mia fora ki enan kairo) tou "epic metal", oi MANOWAR apantane:
HEAVY METAL OR NO METAL AT ALL.

"Epiko feeling" mporei na bgei apo opoiadhpote mousikh. Px Wagner, Vaggelis, Polydouris kai bebaia folk (eidika Krhtika - Pontiaka)....

Ante geia
31-10-2003, 11:40
VirusXI

paizei kai na nai ths telemarketing...
afou nai ellhnikh patenta prepei na maste k proud pou xei diadw8ei se polles xwres around k h ka8e mpanta apo th zampia pou vgazei rehearsal xarakthrizei ton eayto ths epic metal.
whatevah, opoios katalave katalave, oi tampeles einai gia na katalavainomaste metaksy mas.
kai an einai na syzhthsoumene pali peri tampelwn (gia 27h fora sto ER kai gia 2345234h fora genikotera - kai na poume ta idia pali) kalytera na ftiaxtei allo thread giati to gkamhsame to ntoumsouornt.
31-10-2003, 12:23
The_Painless

Pou einai DISKARA kai de xwraei koubenta ep' autou.-
31-10-2003, 15:51
VirusXI

yeah einai diskara k epeidh dhmiourgh8hke kainourio thread pame sto pshto.
giati leme epic metal kai epic heavy metal...
h ellhnikh patenta "epic metal" mallon prosdiorizei ayto pou dhmiourghsan oi Manowar (a8ela tous mallon giati twra pleon to xoun ksexasei), ena arketa protwtypo alla sigoura ksexwristo mousiko tropo apodoshs twn epikwn stixwn tous pou evgaze mia monadikh epikh atmosfaira. ayton ton dromo akolou8hse o quorthon sthn viking-era twn bathory exwntas kai to diko tou xarakthra xwris na ksefeygei se asxeta eidh, ayton akolou8oun kai oi doomsword. kati tetoio analogo exoun parallhla kai oi manilla se kamposa kommatia tous.
to epic heavy metal apthn allh, pou exei k to poly soukse ta teleytaia xronia - ksafnika oloi 8ymh8hkan na ginoun defenders of heavy metal faith kets, einai apla heavy metal me stixous kai image me spa8akia kai istories, emena proswpika den mou leei tpt h atmosfaira tous afou protimw kalista na akousw maiden, glory, priest kai merikous allous pou einai safws poiotikoteroi se syn8eseis kai hxo k fysika original...
akolou8wntas to epic heavy metal, vgazoume kai orous opws epic death metal (amon amarth kai bolt thrower px) kai paei legontas.
oi oroi kai oi tampeles fysika einai gia na mporoume na synnenoh8oume opws proeipa... ola einai heavy metal re gamw re \m/
ayta gia arxh ths kouventas. keep walkin'
31-10-2003, 16:50
Witchkiller

Epic Metal?Epic Heavy Metal?AS GELASW.Ti ilithioi oroi einai aytoi.THEOIKES MPANTES opws OMEN ,BROCAS HELM ,MANNILA ROAD ,SAME'S WYCH ,DARK KNIGHT ,MANOWAR(ennoeitai mexri kai to ''Triumph'') ,CIRITH UNGOL ,DRUID, SLOUGH FEG ,PREMONITION ,DOMINE (sto prwto mono) kai paei legontas paizane mono HEAVY METAL!Ti skata einai aytes oi tampeles?

Kai fysika exoume kai to ''True Metal''.EDW KAI AN GELAME.ATHLIA sygkrotimata opos sacred steel ,hammerfall ,wizard (m'ekseresh to ''son of darkness'' otidipote allo exoun bgalei einai skoupidi) thn eidan kai kala anabiotes twn 80ies kai paiksan to pio athlio heavy metal pou mporousan.Gia mena to true metal einai enas aperantos skoupidotopos opou katoikoun ta proanaferthenta groups ,to sinafi tous kai kapia alla athlia apo ta 80ies typou Lust ,Steel Angel ,Adramelch ,oi opoioi exoun kai mono link sto site tous tous SKULLVIEW - theoi- legontas oti mono aftoi aksizoun.TI LETE RE ADERFARES ,YPARXOUN ENA KARW SYGXRONA HEAVY METAL GROUPS POU SAS KSESKIZOUNE TO KWLARAKI SAS.

Sorry ,den tha parw
N.P. SALEM'S WYCH - Never Ending Battle. THEOI
31-10-2003, 17:02
Martyan_Druyd

ela re witchkiller!!me kalypses sxedon apolyta..apo dw kai pera oti apadhseis epi tou thematos..GO TO WITCHKILLER'S POST........edaxy oute egw trelenomai gia hammerfall,sacred steel klp........ti na pei kaneis gia salem's wych klp thhria tou underground twra........prepei na ginei neo topic UNDERGROUND METAL....twra gia tis bades pou les lust,adramelch,steel angel...(an kai maresoun merikes apo aftes) aftes kai alles einai gia ekseidikevmena akousmata kai kyriws gia sylektes/atoma pou theloun akomh kai th metriothta(oxi oti aftes oi bades einai savoures,apla emeinan sthn afaneia kai den prosferan polla..)...... kala kala edw den exoume ksekavlwsei me tous theous Sortilege akoma... mafta tha asxoloumaste sto "orizw to epic metal"topic(!!-ha ha) {proteinw gia to general discussion off topic:"orizw to epic meal"topic,meta to submit what you eat now..kalytera mia analysh gia epika krasofagopotia..ahah}
31-10-2003, 17:36
freak brother

epiko feeling vgazoun oi klages ton spathiwn..LOL kai o hxos tou katapelth..epikh mousikh einai ta antartika pou ta tragoudousan kai meta phgainan kai polemousan oxi ta epic metal pou ta tragoudane kai meta pane spiti kai trwne giouvarlakia
31-10-2003, 17:37
Buddy Lackey

kai ta dio omhrika eph den htan eph , afou ta tragoudouse o omhros ston dromo kai meta osoi ta akougane trogane (den nomizw giouvarlakia, kati allo omws)
31-10-2003, 17:39
freak brother

existorousan istorikes epikes maxes ths epoxhs.. to antistoixo epic metal eprepe na tan gia ton polemo sto iraq kai pws skotonoun oi tsetsenoi tous rwssous..
31-10-2003, 18:44
WoTaN

Na sxoliasw ligo ton oro epic death kai epic black.To exw tonisei pollakis oti epic black den uparxei.O enas oros anairei ton allo.
Oson afora to epic death oute auto pisteuw oti uparxei.
Mallon mperdeuete to polemiko black i death me to epiko.Einai teleiws diaforetika pragmata.Nai oi Bolt Thrower einai polemikoi alla OXI epikoi.Den exoun kanena epiko sinesthima sti mousiki tous.
Tespa

Witchkiller pali kataferes se ena post na anakatepseis swsta pragmata me malakies.To pos to kataferneis mono esu ksereis :P
31-10-2003, 18:47
irreligious

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Na sxoliasw ligo ton oro epic death kai epic black.To exw tonisei pollakis oti epic black den uparxei.O enas oros anairei ton allo.
Oson afora to epic death oute auto pisteuw oti uparxei.
Mallon mperdeuete to polemiko black i death me to epiko.Einai teleiws diaforetika pragmata.Nai oi Bolt Thrower einai polemikoi alla OXI epikoi.Den exoun kanena epiko sinesthima sti mousiki tous.
Tespa

oi amon amarth ti paizoun?oi bal sagoth?(ntax pera apo malakies...)...oi summoning?
31-10-2003, 18:48
freak brother

ti ennoeis einai polemikoi?kukloforoun me tanks kai zwsmenoi me sfaires?
31-10-2003, 18:53
rincewind2k

irreligious, kane [quote] kai [/ quote] mate, nomiza oti ta eleges esy

den yparxei epiko black giati an yphrxe tha arese ston wotan.-

sobara twra, giati les oti den yparxei epiko death kai black (estw, death kai black pou na bgazei epiko feeling)

pw re den mporw na sas katalabw katholou me tis tampeles, exw xasei th mpala teleiws

vsk, synennohtheite kai ftiakste ena leksiko'h kato tetoio, na katalabainoume ti ennoeite kai na kseroume pws na milame

metal
31-10-2003, 19:06
WoTaN

Kathiste kai skeftite tin xawdi diafora metaxu tou epikou kai tou polemikou kai to ksanasizitame to thema.
31-10-2003, 19:21
irreligious

yeah....oi summoning me othoun sto na paro to giatagani mou kai na arxizo na sfagiazo moggolous....trou polemic black metal;)
31-10-2003, 22:50
Witchkiller

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Originally Posted by WoTaN

Witchkiller pali kataferes se ena post na anakatepseis swsta pragmata me malakies.To pos to kataferneis mono esu ksereis :P

Einai poly aplo.Tha ekdosw syntagh epi tou thematos,tha kykloforisei syntoma.:) Anamigniw sobara themata me malakies.RE OUST RE ,TRUEMETALLA TOU AIDIOU:) :p
31-10-2003, 22:52
irreligious

Ftou sou Rezilh ,eisai APIASTOS!
31-10-2003, 22:55
Witchkiller

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[i]kala kala edw den exoume ksekavlwsei me tous theous Sortilege

Gia mia akomh fora tha me anagkaseis na se proskynisw

SO - RTI - LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

AYTH KAI AN HTAN GROUPARA kai oxi ena karo skoupidia pou mas mostrarontai san tous afanhs hrwes twn 80ies.
31-10-2003, 22:58
Witchkiller

Quote:

Originally Posted by irreligious

Ftou sou Rezilh ,eisai APIASTOS!

Eimai ,kai pou na me deis kai me gobakia.Re irreligious ,twra eida to location sou.Apo pio xwrio ths naypaktou eisai?Egw katagomai apo kei trygiro (half Agrinio kai half Galaksidi) kai ta exw gyrisei ola ta basileia apo ki pera.
31-10-2003, 23:03
irreligious

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Apo pio xwrio ths naypaktou eisai?

den eimai apo xorio trigyro reeeee.....meno kanonika nafpakto....xmou...kato i ano xora exeis perasei?

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Eimai ,kai pou na me deis kai me gobakia

a na xatheis...mas kavloneis vradiatika....:disco:

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