Sunthrhsh/service kitharas

[sephiroth]

Hrthe h wra gia to ethsio service ths kitharas mou kai tha hthela th gnwmh sas. Se poion (milaw gia Athina) empisteueste thn kithara sas gia service/sunthrhsh/setup klp?
Ta duo teleutaia xronia phga sto Zozef ston Peiraia kai enw se genikes grammes emeina euxaristhmenos, ksenerwsa me to gegonos oti enw mou eixan pei oti h kithara tha htan etoimh se mia ebdomada telika se treis kai meta apo arketh gkrinia.
Akouw protaseis. An einai eukolo anaferate kai timh

P.S H kithara exei floyd rose tremolo. To anaferw auto giati sto Zozef h timh htan allh gia kithara me tremolo kai allh gia kithara xwris.

[The Good Son]

egw kanw service sto zozef ths salonikhs.
einai o nikos (apo tous nick and the backbone gia osous gnwrizoun) in charge kai o typos gamei kala.
apla kostizei too much
alla o pousths kanei tetoia douleia pou den lypasai ta lefta sou.
:oh:

[Twisted_Bassist]

zozef :worship:

dineis to organo sou kai sou dinei kainourio einai theos o tupos.

alla opws eipe kai o godeater kostisei o kariolhs...

[Coroner]

Jimmy's rock stuff, sth xarilaou trikouph. 7 xronia paw ki8ares ekei kai panta kanei swsth douleia. Apla, an uparxei kapoio sugkekrimeno provlhma tou les na to prose3ei. Sunh8ws thn krataei mia vdomada, isws kai ligotero. Timh 40 euros, alla ru3e thl prwta gia epivevaiwsh.

[Twisted_Bassist]

40 euro? MONO :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Coroner]

An en8umoumai swsta. Exw arketo kairo na paw, alla phge enas kollhtos kai tosa tou phre. De kovw arxidia pantws, thl. gia epivevaiwsh.

[Zachary_Stevens]

Kourmpis stin Xarilaou trikouph (Athina panta-ari8mo den thymamai #@$%!%).Gamw ta Set-up kai sxetika f8ina.Teleutaia fora pou piga tin kithara na moy ftiaksei kai ta hlektrika giati eixa alla3ei 2 magnites pire 35 eurw.Tin kratise vevaia 1 vdomada giati eixe doyleia alla an tin viazese se 2 meroules stin exei etoimh.Ton Synistw anepifylakta.To Floyd Rose htan san kainourgio axrisimopoihto.
P.S.Exei Kai Diesel Enisxytes poy gamane kai thelw na klepsw trapeza na parw enan :ppp :twisted:

[The Good Son]

40 euro? MONO :shock: :shock: :shock:sto zozef kane to 140 :)

[symposium_lexotanil]

To Floyd Rose htan san kainourgio axrisimopoihto.


MALLON EPEIDI DEN TO XES XRISIMOPOIISEI POTE,OPOS OLOI OI GKITAR XIROOUZ TIS POUTSAS.

[psych/prog]

για εξηγηστε λιγο τι ακριβως κανει ενα μαγαζι στην κιθαρα οταν την πας για service

[Twisted_Bassist]

euthigrammish tastieras
limarisma ta tasta
katharismo organou
allagh xordwn
elegxos armonikwn
allagh se vides skouriasmenes kai provlhmatika hlektronika.

afta kanei se ena basso toulaxisto.

[The Charon]

Asxeto me to topic , alla nomizw pws ean prosexeis to organo den xreiazesai service.(fusika na 3ereis kai kapia pragmatakia).Ektos ean alla3eis tasta.
Twra ean eisai pro kai 8eleis setarisma ok paw passo.

[jimid]

Dystyxws ean exeis floyd rose, eite an to xrisimopoieis rite oxi, kapoia stigmi tha xreiastei rythmisi. H rythmisi auti den einai toso apli opote to service einai anagkaio.

[The Charon]

gia auto no floyd rose.+oti einai axrhsto(gia mena toulaxiston)

[S-11]

8a sou lega na r8eis salamina pou yparxei enas typas gg sauth th douleia alla apo a8hna phgaine ston oikonomakh sto esoteron,einai ok leme

info edw www.esoteron.gr (http://www.esoteron.gr) steiltou email (panos oikonomakhs)

edit:pare thl kalitera (kai na mhn einai ekei ston thlefwnhth leei kai ta kinhta tous)

[grheadbanger]

to limarisma twn tastwn kai o elegxos twn ilektrikwn den nomizw oti perilamvanetai se ena aplo service...sto jimmy as poume to aplo service exei 40 evrw enw mazi me afta ta extra paei sto 80ari an thimamai kala...
ki ennoeitai oti oso kala ki an prosexeis tin kithara sou i to basso sou,anapofefkta kapoia stigmi tha xreiastei enas eidikos giati kai to bratso logw allagwn kairou tha parei ligo,kai i tastiera tha thelei katharisma apo ti bixla tou paiksimatos,kai to floyd rose tha thelei kapoio setarisma...pragmata pou den exoun oloi ti gnwsi i tin ebistosini ston eafto tous na kanoun,eidika an prokeitai gia ena akrivo organo...

[sephiroth]

Emena me endiaferei kuriws limarisma tastwn kathws exoun ftharei kai elegxos tou mpratsou. To tremolo den to exw mplokarei (metanoiwnw thn wra kai th stigmh pou phra kithara me floyd rose, ithela na kanw pozerilikia blepeis :D )

[Twisted_Bassist]

to limarisma twn tastwn kai o elegxos twn ilektrikwn den nomizw oti perilamvanetai se ena aplo service...sto jimmy as poume to aplo service exei 40 evrw enw mazi me afta ta extra paei sto 80ari an thimamai kala...
ki ennoeitai oti oso kala ki an prosexeis tin kithara sou i to basso sou,anapofefkta kapoia stigmi tha xreiastei enas eidikos giati kai to bratso logw allagwn kairou tha parei ligo,kai i tastiera tha thelei katharisma apo ti bixla tou paiksimatos,kai to floyd rose tha thelei kapoio setarisma...pragmata pou den exoun oloi ti gnwsi i tin ebistosini ston eafto tous na kanoun,eidika an prokeitai gia ena akrivo organo...

[topikisths modes]edw thessalonikh ama pas gia service sta kamoun ola. EINAI GAMIADES :P [/topikistis mode]

[grheadbanger]

gi afto sas pianoun to kwlaraki!!! :wink:
140 evrw einai ipervoli(an ontws sou pairnoun tosa pou eipes prin)

[The Charon]

gi afto sas pianoun to kwlaraki!!! :wink:
140 evrw einai ipervoli(an ontws sou pairnoun tosa pou eipes prin)

e oxi mono tous ton pianoun , ti soi gamiades einai?
:rofl:


[topikisths modes]edw thessalonikh ama pas gia service sta kamoun ola. EINAI GAMIADES Razz [/topikistis mode]

[Twisted_Bassist]

filoi mou kaloi kaloi mou filoi sto bass an den allakseis xordes plhrwneis guro sto 90e mazi me limarisma ktl... opote SAS XUNEI H THESS.

[The Good Son]

Asxeto me to topic , alla nomizw pws ean prosexeis to organo den xreiazesai service.(fusika na 3ereis kai kapia pragmatakia).Ektos ean alla3eis tasta.
Twra ean eisai pro kai 8eleis setarisma ok paw passo.ouxi giati paragontes opws h 8ermokrasia, pou mporei na prokalei th3h/ph3h sto sidero pou ypaxrei sto maniki ths kitharas px, den exoun sxesh me frontida. alla isws afto les me thn ennoia "setarisma". Den nomizw pantws afto na apefthynetai se pro mono, einai kati pou ephreazei to pai3imo, synepws thn apodosh kai genika einai better to na paizeis me ena swsto organo
(akolouthei asxeth parathrhsh)
kai e3allou rockers eimaste. den exei prospathisei kaneis na peta3ei ston aera thn kithara tou kai na thn 3anapiasei, na thn gyrnaei gyrw gyrw kai alla tetoia?
opoios kanei quote kai anti gia rockers pei poseroi trwei sfaliara

[The Charon]

@the_good_son , egw to truss rod to ru8mizw monos mou.

[The Good Son]

swstost o paixths

[Coroner]

8a sumfwnh3w me charon gia allh mia fora.

To idaniko einai, an paizoun gkafra, na pas th ki8ara gia setup duo fores/xrono me thn allagh tou kairou. Wstoso, an einai swsta ru8mismenh, allazeis xordes me to SWSTO tropo wste na mh 3eru8mizetai kai ta mikroru8mismata ta kameis monos sou mporeis na ka8usterhseis to setup.

Exw Lo-Pro-Edge kai Edge pro stis ki8ares mou kai to ru8misma tous to kanw monos mou. Eimai apoluta euxaristhmenos kai kamia tous den exei provlhmata me to kourdisma. Eidika to lo pro edge ths petrucci akoma kai otan apo E me 9iares kourdisa se c# me 11ares de xreiasthke para elaxistes ru8miseis (gia na mh pw ka8olou). To truss rod de to peirazw monaxoulhs mou fovamai. Molis mazepsw gkafra 8a paw thn petrucci gia allagh tastwn sto jimmy. H malakia einai oti xreiazontai mpolika lefta.

Kati pou polus kosmos de prosexei genika sto organo tou einai to swsto intonation.

[johnpetrucci]

mias kai prin apo 1 bdomada phra thn kithara mou apo to service ( panta sto jimmy ), stoixhse 220e me allagh tastwn kai geniko service. kai na epibebaiwsw auto pou eipe o grheadbenger oti sto service DEN perilambanetai tripsimo tastwn.auta.

[The Good Son]

sto zozef kanei.
opws kai ladwma tastieras kai swmatos

[Twisted_Bassist]

8a sumfwnh3w me charon gia allh mia fora.

To idaniko einai, an paizoun gkafra, na pas th ki8ara gia setup duo fores/xrono me thn allagh tou kairou. Wstoso, an einai swsta ru8mismenh, allazeis xordes me to SWSTO tropo wste na mh 3eru8mizetai kai ta mikroru8mismata ta kameis monos sou mporeis na ka8usterhseis to setup.

Exw Lo-Pro-Edge kai Edge pro stis ki8ares mou kai to ru8misma tous to kanw monos mou. Eimai apoluta euxaristhmenos kai kamia tous den exei provlhmata me to kourdisma. Eidika to lo pro edge ths petrucci akoma kai otan apo E me 9iares kourdisa se c# me 11ares de xreiasthke para elaxistes ru8miseis (gia na mh pw ka8olou). To truss rod de to peirazw monaxoulhs mou fovamai. Molis mazepsw gkafra 8a paw thn petrucci gia allagh tastwn sto jimmy. H malakia einai oti xreiazontai mpolika lefta.

Kati pou polus kosmos de prosexei genika sto organo tou einai to swsto intonation.

thes na mas metafraseis afta poupes stagglika gia mas tous malakes agramatous? (aka den kserw apo ti apoteleitai to basso mou)

[Coroner]

Mhn agxwnesai re c.

Lo Pro Edge, Edge Pro - Susthmata tremolo ths Ibanez. Floyd rose vre aderfe. Antistoixo ths gefuras sto bass.

Filakia mwro mou.

[Twisted_Bassist]

to truss rod kai intonation ti einai agaphm?

[Panoramix_Miraculix]

truss rod prepei na einai to sidero pou exei mesa h tastiera. exw akousei oti mia ki8ara 8ewreitai kalh an den exei mesa tetoio sidero. dior8oste me plz.

[The Charon]

to truss rod kai intonation ti einai agaphm?

to truss rod einai to sidero pou exei to mpratso ths ki8aras , kai OTAN xreiazetai to ru8mizeis gia isa3eis to mpratso sou edit:na ru8miseis to action ths ki8ara dld


to intonation einai kata poso oi notes kai armonikes sou panw sthn tastiera den xanoun.briskontai ektos "8esis" as poume.


truss rod prepei na einai to sidero pou exei mesa h tastiera. exw akousei oti mia ki8ara 8ewreitai kalh an den exei mesa tetoio sidero. dior8oste me plz.

einai to sidero.

alla mia ki8ara einai kali mono otan to exei , oxi otan den to exei

[johnpetrucci]

exw thn entypwsh omws oti oles oi kithares exoun truss rod,
etsi den einai?
alliws, pws tha kseskebrwname mia kithara?

[The Charon]

oi hlektrikes oi epwnumes nai .

pezoun kai kati koupia pou oute suzhthsh gia truss rod.

oi prwtes oi hlektrikes px kati fender tou 50' den eixan nomizw

[Twisted_Bassist]

ti armonikes padws tis ruthmizw kai monos mou..einai izi

[The Good Son]

to truss rod kai intonation ti einai agaphm?afto pou de rythmizei o bro sou kai oi xordes tou einai sto gamo tou karagiozh

[Coroner]

Na sumplhrwsw oti gia to upsos twn xordwn (aka action) den eu8unetai mono to truss rod. To truss rod 8a elega oti eu8unetai gia ta tri3imata kai th la8os eu8ugrammish ths xordhs. Gia to upsos twn xordwn kai egkarsia sth tastiera eu8unetai h gefura kai to swsto ru8misma ths.

[Twisted_Bassist]

ade re malaka koroner emathes kiapomousikh :P

[Valley_owner_wanna_be]

Otan leme setup ennoyme:

1. Geniko katharismo toy organoy kai elegxo/lipansh tastieras AN xreiazetai

2.Meta apo synenohsh me ton pelath rythmish ths esthisis tis kitharas
(p.x. an kapoios paizei SRV tha rithmiso action psilo,tha valo 13ares ...)

3. mikromazemata opos lipansh nut px me rinismata grafiith,contact cleaner sto jack , sfiksimo kleidion kai genika oti mporei na ginei xoris antallaktika(allios xreonesai extra)

4.Intonation , sta ellhnika gnosto kai os armonikes


TO 2 perilambanei kapoies energeies poy to sinolo toys(kai mono vlepontas tis os sinolo ginetai sosth doyleia) orizei to pos ena organo paizei dhladh ti aisthisi soy dinei.Aytes xontrika einai:
Rythmish truss rod,ipsoys gefyras,elksh elathrion,ipsos magnhton KAI fret dressing.To teleytaio einai poly shmantiko kai einai to teleytaio stadio diergasias poy dexontai ta tasta se enan laimo kitharas kata thn egatastah toys(H seira eina egatastash taston,crowning kai telos dressing).Ean mia kithara setaristei teleia,alla ginei lathos dressing ,ypovathmizetai kata poly ayto poy len kai oi amerikanoi playability.

To setup/service en katakeidei apaitei , ektos apo texnikes gnoseis kai eksikoiosh me ergaleia , genikes gnoseis pano sto thema hxos kitharas kai thn sxetikh koyltoyra.Exei pleon ftasei ta oria ths episthmhs (xoris plaka) kai oi koryfaioi texnikoi vriskontai pantaena vhma prin thn kataskevh hl. kitharas.