Dream Theater - Train of thought

[The_Emperor]

Den tha kanw krish me thn proth mono akroash...To yliko einai isos oti pio bary exoun kykloforhsei oi Theater. H paragogh skotonei. Ta fonhtika toy La Brie akougontai - kata th gnomh moy - pio asxeta me th mousikh apo pote. Me tetoio hxo xreiazetai pio "dynath" fonh...
soon tha exo pio oloklhromenh apopsh...pantws oi protes entyposeis einai thetikes

[The_Emperor]

me th deyterh akroash akougetai diskara...
elpizo na mhn to metanioso...

ps : den ksero poso asxeto tha akoustei ayto alla se polla shmeia toy album tha mou tairiaze na tragoudaei o Hetfield toy black album ki oxi h .... (kala...den to leo...)

[cancer]

ena sample pou akousa mou fanike entelws machine head.

[The_Emperor]

yparxoun polla stoixeia "barias amerikanilas" sto cd
emena den me xalane katholoy

[After Dark]

To exw akousei mexri stigmhs 4 fores kai einai o,ti pio vary exoun vgalei oi Theater sthn kariera tous.Akoma de mporw na exw oloklhrwmenh apopsh,pantws einai sigoura enas Dream Theater diskos me o,ti ki an shmainei ayto kai sigoura gia mena o diskos ths xronias.
Kapoia pragmata pou mou ekanan entypwsh sigoura einai to This Dying Soul pou einai to Glass Prison Pt.2 symfwna kai me tous idious tous DT,to Endless Sacrifice me to Panteradiko kopsimo kai to pio arrwsto perasma tou Rudess sth mesh tou tragoudiou(pio arrwsto ki apo to Dance Of Eternity) kai to Stream Of Consciousness pou vlepei sta isia to Erotomania.
Oi Theater tha voulwsoun panhgyrika ta stomata pollwn kompleksikwn progressivadwn.Prepei na to ksanakousw polles fores akomh gia na exw pio oloklhrwmenh apopsh.

[Dragonlord]

to as i am 8a to katetassate sta kala,metria h xeirotera kommatia tou diskou?

[After Dark]

Gia mena einai poly kala kai gamata tragoudia.To As I Am einai apo ta poly kala.

[The Butcher]

xthes sto texas akousa prwti fora ta ypoloipa kommatia peran tou as i am (k to as i am stin album version). prospathisa na ta proseksw ligo gia na vgalw kapoio symperasma.
pisteyw, meta ap'ayti tin proxeiri akroasi, oti o diskos einai peripou o,ti tha perimene enas "ypopsiasmenos" akroatis apo tous theater. genika oi syntheseis einai sti gnwrimi nootropia tous, me mia ontws katapliktiki paragwgi, enw to album synolika einai isws varytero k ap'to awake. emfanestates einai pisteyw epirroes apo metallica twn justice k black album(toso stin paragwgi oso k synthetika), opws episis k apo pantera se simeia. o labrie dystyxws einai to xeirotero simeio, giati mou akougotan teleiws "aproswpos" k se simeia de mou kollouse ontws me ta kommatia (to as i am btw einai ena paradeigma aytou pou ennow). mikro to kako omws, giati proswpika vrethika apenanti se ektaktes k poly endiaferouses syntheseis, pou tolmw na pw oti se simeia toulaxiston, exoun ti dynami na excitaroun, na katapliksoun ton akroati (k einai wraio na vlepeis oti oi theater exoun akomi ayti ti dynami). megali entypwsi mou ekanan ta kommatia this dying soul, in the name of god, to instrumental k allo ena, de thymamai poio.
ayta gia twra, ta ypoloipa apo tin triti k meta!;)

[The_Emperor]

gia mena to as i am einai me diafora to xeirotero kommati toy diskou...
epeidh einai pio ameso to epeleksan gia proto mallon kai gia single
pantws o la brie den einai se kamia periptosh kakos tragoudisths
oute yponohsa pote kati tetoio
apla me tetoio hxo stis kithares kai me riffs pou bgazoun tetoio ogko kai se shmeia panterizoun opws eipan kai oi parapanw pisteyo oti ta fonhtika toy akougontai gay...kai den tairiazoun katholoy
se shmeia malista kanei prospatheies na balei ligo gretzo sth fonh isos niothontas ki o idios oti prepei na sklhrynei ta vocs toy alla kai pali den ginetai kati...
endeiktiko mou fanhke - panw se ayto - to gegonos oti exoun balei ki effe sth fonh toy se merika poly baria merh dioti profanws den tha kolouse katholoy h fonh toy me ta ypoloipa organa

tespa, kathe diskos ton theater einai gegonos eite mas aresei eite oxi - px emena to prohgoumeno me apogohteyse para poly alla se kamia periptosh den mporo na po oti einai proxeiro album - kai sygrinomeno me tis ypoloipes mpantes toy eidous einai pantote sta top
top album ths xronias ? not for me! Protimo xalara to Wolverine to opoio exei stantar poly perissotero feeling ki ananeotiko aera gia ton pleon koresmeno xoro toy progressive opws oi idioi oi theater ton orisan.

To album gia mena einai poly kalytero apo to prohgoumeno alla kai pali nomizo oti oi theater den katafernoun na feroun epanastash opws eixan kanei me to images...Tha mou peite einai aparaithto na to kanoun me kathe album ayto?? Asfalws oxi. Apla oi dikes mou apaithseis apo kathe mpanta einai analoges ton dynatothton toys ki epeidh theoro toys theater ikanous gia ta panta oi apaithseis mou apo aytous einai tromera ypshles kai perimeno na dinoun kateythynseis sth mousikh ki oxi na akolouthoun - opws pisteyo oti kanoun eite kopiarontas ton eayto toys eite allous ta teleytaia xronia. Epanalambano oti eimai tromera aysthros giati oi theater exoun aperioristes dynatothtes san mpanta

pali polyloghsa...to album pantws gamaei kai sigoura eini sta kalytera ths xronias...apo ekei kai pera o kathenas analoga me to ti perimenei apo aytous tha meinei perissotero h ligotero eyxaristhmenos.

[FIXXXER]

De boro na akouo malakies gia ton Labrie. O anthropos sto As I Am kai to This Dying Soul pou exo tragoudaei apisteuta, ki an tragoudaei etsi se olo to album tote tha einai kaula. Elpizo na einai opos ta leei o After Dark, an kai akoma den exo katalavei giati oi Theater analonontai se metal suntheseis.

[The Butcher]

e ok fixxxer, einai pws sou kathetai k sto ayti. egw eipa tin apopsi mou meta apo 1 rough akroasi! k ontws, isws to epomeno simantiko vima tha to kanoun oi theater otan "ksekollisoun" apo to "metalladiko" (kai "metallicadiko" ;)), awake-izon styl twn teleytaiwn albums! you have a point!:) (btw, pws fainetai oti eisai Falling Into Infinity fan!)

[FIXXXER]

Vasika den eimai mono Falling Into Infinity fan. To Scenes From A Memory to theoro 100% to kalutero epomeno vima ekeini tin epoxi, eno oson afora to Six Degrees, an to Glass Prison itan pio ekleptusmeno kai an to deutero CD eixe ta misa kommatia apo auta pou exei, me tin prosthikikana duo akoma tha to theorousa polu pio gamato. Tora me to kainourio de xero ti na perimeno, alla den perimena na to pane etsi to pragma... an theloume na akousoume Metallica vazoume Metallica.... :p

Nomizo einai to pleon eukolo na katalavei kaneis oti oi Theater boroun na paizoun pio gamati mousiki apo autin pou paizoun... to apedeixan me ena Trial Of Tears, me ena Misunderstood kai me ena Finally Free, opos kai me to Home kai to Peruvian Skies kai polla alla.... profanos anaferomai stin exelixi tous, giati entaxei, to Images kai to Awake einai pleon dedomena kai gia tin epoxi tous polu gamata, isos teleia.

[The_Emperor]

De boro na akouo malakies gia ton Labrie. O anthropos sto As I Am kai to This Dying Soul pou exo tragoudaei apisteuta, ki an tragoudaei etsi se olo to album tote tha einai kaula. Elpizo na einai opos ta leei o After Dark, an kai akoma den exo katalavei giati oi Theater analonontai se metal suntheseis.

ki ego nomizo oti tragoudaei san poustara
ti zori trabas?

[FIXXXER]

Kala, de tha klapso kiolas... apla eipa tin apopsi mou me pio pathiasmeno tropo... de mas paratas, Amnesiac eimai ego na kathomai na vrizomai se ena forum? :p

[After Dark]

Vasika se ayto pou leei o Sereths yparxei mia dosh alhtheias,alla oxi gia ton tropo pou tragoudaei o James.;)

[The_Emperor]

ki ego th gnomh mou egrapsa - kai malista me kosmiotato tropo - kai mou les oti leo malakies
den tha po ki eyxaristo kiolas

ps : ennoeitai oti den prokeitai na bristw
kai idiws me sena pou me polles apo tis apopseis sou symfono
kapou kapou retareis omws :-P

[The_Emperor]

Vasika se ayto pou leei o Sereths yparxei mia dosh alhtheias,alla oxi gia ton tropo pou tragoudaei o James.;)


egrapsa ksekathara parapanw th gnomh mou gia ton la brie
einai poly kalos tragoudisths, poly kalh fonh an kai sta live ta skatwnei syxna
pantws sta album genika gamaei
alla sta dika mou aytia ta fonhtika toy den kolane otan oi theater paizoun panteroeidh riff...an se allous aresei paw paso
den epiballo se kanenan th gnomh mou
apla th lew

[After Dark]

Mallon de diavases prosektika ayto pou egrapsa.Nevermind.

[FIXXXER]

ki ego th gnomh mou egrapsa - kai malista me kosmiotato tropo - kai mou les oti leo malakies
den tha po ki eyxaristo kiolas

ps : ennoeitai oti den prokeitai na bristw
kai idiws me sena pou me polles apo tis apopseis sou symfono
kapou kapou retareis omws :-P

Eite to pisteueis eite oxi, otan egrapsa "malakies gia ton Labrie" ennoousa "kaka logia gia ton Labrie", kathos se mia periergi dialekto tis neoellinikis athlias glossas to "malakia" xrisimopoieitai kai os exis: "Leo malakies gia ton Dimitri"="Leo arnitika logia gia ton Dimitri".

Vevaia auto de borouses esy na to xereis, kathos tha borousa na ennoo to pasifanes kai eunoito pou katalaves, alla entaxei, ti na kanoume, sorry... Episis, tora ematha oti eisai o Seretis, the long lost metalbb metal friend. Kali fasi. Epsaxna tis proalles to topic pou elege ti exete kanei gia mia gunaika alla de to brika, den epsaxa kai polu.

[The_Emperor]

apo ta cult topics ekeinhs ths epoxhs e?!?!?!
eixa riksei trelo gelio tote me merika apo ayta pou eixan grafei...
o nikodhmos idiws eixe grapsei kati poly kalo to opoio den thymamai me leptomereies

tespa...to album gia na epistrepso sthn ousia gamaei...
ego perimena toys theater me to ftyari
kai tora to boulwnw kai thaymazo to dhmioyrghma toys
nuff said

[After Dark]

Eisai se kalo dromo loipon.Well done.

[The Butcher]

Mallon de diavases prosektika ayto pou egrapsa.Nevermind.
egw to diavazw k to ksanadiavazw k mou fainetai oti psaxneis aformi gia koutsompolio.;) ksereis kati pou tha mas endiefere na mathoume?

[lost_icon]

egw vrhka oloklhro to theater sto winmx,empros kale mou user dwseeee!!

[FIXXXER]

To agorasa simera kai to exo akousei 2 fores. Profanos i mousiki gamaei. H nootropia ton Theater omos simera einai ligo giua toboutso. Alla de gamietai. korufaia ta 3 teleutaia kommatia.

[Kingryche]

Emena mou aresoun ta 7 prwta kommatia tou diskou :).
Poia nootropia ton Theater einai gia ton mpoutso?

[Magellan]

mallon ti metal nootropia tou album enoei......pantws ta palikaria prepei na pernoun arketa ligmena

[daydreamer]

Το πήρα σήμερα!! Γαμάει.

[wanker]

epeidh den trellenomai me dream theater k epeidh mporw na pw oti k tis 2 fores pou tous exw dei live emeina me anoixto to stoma 8a pw kana 2 pragmatakia xwris na exw diavasei ti exete grapsei oi ypoloipoi.

1on k kyriotero k xalara IMO to album an eixe alla fwnhtika kai mikrotera tragoudia 8a htan apo ta kalytera fetina albums...
ela mou nte pou prepei na akouw thn trashia k oti e3wghino paizei ki8ara-baso-drums me ayta ta enoxlhtika (gia merika tragoudia tou diskou) fwnhtika.epishs exei pesei ligo clopy se merika tragoudia apo polles meries..re paidia paixte k kana 5lepto tragoudi, k alloi exoun 10lepta, alla den paizoun ta idia 10 lepta...
ayta k mono apo mia fora pou takousa, k den 8a to3anakousw allh :P
etsi gia na gemizw posts ;P

[FIXXXER]

Poia nootropia ton Theater einai gia ton mpoutso?

H nootropia "tha boume studio kai tha paixoume auto to eidos mousikis auti ti fora". Tha protimousa mia nootropia "tha boume sto studio kai tha ta gamisoume ola ki oti vgei". Kala to simeio sto 1:50 tou Honor Thy Father eiani apo ta pio gamata pou exoun grapsei oi Theater. Exei prosexei kanenas oti auto to kommati einai se arketa simeia san Fates Warning, i eimai monos?

[Dragonlord]

apla meta apo tosa album an to ekanan akoma auto 8a epaizan se poly genikes grammes to idio prama-dld 8a yphrxan ola ta stoixeia theater mazi.maresei pou pleon tonizoun epithdes px sto 6doit thn peiramatikh pleura tous,sto tot th heavy klp

[Buddy Lackey]

ti maresei sto neo theater:
to oti einai xalara to pio kitharistiko tous album
to oti o labrie tragoudaei toso gamata oso eixe kairo na tragoudisei
i paragwgi (apistefti)
to oti exei stigmes kai idees ekswpragmatika kales.
to "in the name of god" (PARA poli)
ti "demaresei" sto neo theater:
to oti epanalamvanoun sinthetiki nootropia
to oti akougetai san ena scenes part 2 me pio polla riff
to oti enw o rudess fenetai na exei trelli empnefsi apo ta liga shmeia pou paizei ta dika tou, den akougetai oso prepei, enw tha prepe (eidika me tin sigekrimeni empnefsi)
oti den einai oso peiramatiko perimena (kai perimena kati peiramatiko)
genikws kai adiakritws to album gamaei , ta telika simperasmata vevaia opote kati afora theater sinithws argoun na vgoun.
peri "paraeinai metal " klp , perastika sas , to na les "de maresei toso epeidi einai poli metal" einai toso xazo oso na leei kapoios "de maresei epeidi den einai metal"

[symposium_lexotanil]

symfono me ton mpanti se ola ta "maresei"
apo ta "de maresei" diafono me to sxolio peri epanalipsis synthetikis nootropias.symfono me to oti o rudess tha prepe na xei perissoteri symmetoxi,alla meta de tha tan kai toso kitharistiko (afou safws sta simeia pou xonei ta pliktra einai logiko na xanetai ligo i kithara).



peri "paraeinai metal " klp , perastika sas , to na les "de maresei toso epeidi einai poli metal" einai toso xazo oso na leei kapoios "de maresei epeidi den einai metal"

intint

[The_Painless]

To phra prin ligh wra, eimai sto trito kommati kai "perasa" polu biastika osa grafete gia na mhn ephreastw hahaha. An grafete gia kati pou den exw akousei kai skopeuw na parw, protimw na to akousw prwta.
Anyway, prwtes entupwseis 8etikotates. 8a epanel8w me pio analutika grammenes autes tis entupwseis, pou elpizw na meinoun sto idio epipedo mexri to telos.
Sto deutero kommati einai ena shmeio teleiws Blackened. Alla den exei shmasia. O "rolos" autos tou Lamprh, tou paei polu. Loipon, biss gleich :p

[marianna2525]

ARISTOURGIMA!
tipota allo.

To those who understand, I extend my hand
To the doubtful I demand, take me as I am
Not under your command, I know where I stand
I won't change to fit your man, Take me as I am

[Dragonlord]

to fit your plan,oxi man :P
to shmeio-tribute sto blackened einai gamato,tous goustarw poly pou kanoun kati tetoia.metallica gamw to mouni

[marianna2525]

dikio eheis, apla variemai na grafo stihakia kai ta kano copy-paste, alla merikes fores den vlepo ta lathi.
pantos se arketous stihous ton dream theater eho kanei to sholio: "aftoi oi anthropoi eklepsan to prosopiko mou imerologio, diavasan ti egrafa, ta metefrasan sta agglika kai ta kollisan sti mousiki tous.
afto ishyei gia olo to train of thought kai to 6doit.
e, meta vazo ta klamata apo sygkinisi...

[The_Painless]

Den 3erw an einai aristourghma, dld an makropro8esma 8a apodeix8ei oti einai (gia mena kai genikotera milwntas). To akousa xtes kai shmera, an kai 8elei perissoteres akroaseis. Mou aresei polu omws, logw tou gegonotos oti opws eipan kai alloi nwritera, einai baru gia ta dedomena twn D.T.
Auto pou de mou aresei einai ta "nu" shmeia. Oxi epeidh de mou aresei auth h fash mousika, alla epeidh de mou kollaei stous D.T. Moiazei sta dika mou autia ws mia prospa8eia proselkushs tou endiaferontos newn opadwn, apo allo fasma, ws mia prospa8eia eisagwghs stoixeiwn pou moiazoun '3eno swma' gia to sugkrothma auto. De mou kollane, pws to lene.
Sunolika wraios diskos, akougetai polu euxarista kai isws meta apo merikes pio prosektikes akroaseis na mou aresei akomh perissotero. Auta.

[Dragonlord]

ELEOS
ELEOS

oooola ta sygkrothmata pou exoun nu touches to kanoun gia na proselkysoun koino?APOKLEIETAI na to kanoun epeidh goustaroun?gamw to 8eo mou dhladh oi theater eidika me to 6degrees apedei3an pws den tous noiazei h emporikothta..GIA MIA AKOMA FORA ELEOS KYRIES KAI KYRIOI

[The_Painless]

....eleos esu. Isws na mhn to e8esa swsta. Ennoousa en pasei periptwsei na prosarmostoun se auto pou exei perash kai ekei ap' opou einai kai edw. 3ekolla. Sou lew pws mou akougetai sthn telikh.

[The_Painless]

Niw8w thn anagkh na pw oti to instrumental spernei. Epishs ta plhktra tou Rudess -opou anadeiknuontai (?)- sto album aggizoun to orio ths idiofuias. Ton kruboun?

[Dragonlord]

twra akouga to album.isws na einai nwris alla exw na pw ta e3hs ki as to metaniwsw,de gamietai.
-einai to wrimotero tous album.VRWMAEI wrimothta me thn kalh ennoia
-einai orismos tou sygxronou metal-sto pio texniko ok.exei stoixeia apo maiden kai metallica mexri groovata merh pou se merikous 8ymizoun numetal
-einai hdh klasiko,ta kommatia einai ena ki ena.prolavete to sthn epoxh tou

[The_Painless]

prolavete to sthn epoxh tou

Ti einai re mlk? Ntomata? :shock: :roll: :twisted:

[The_Painless]

pou se merikous 8ymizoun numetal

Ki edw giati mou thn 3anales? :(

[Elfstone]

Kaka ta psemata, oi Dream Theater kai rap na paiksoun tha to kanoun etsi pou tha goustaroume. Kai makari na proseggisoun kai numetal koino mpas kai anoiksoun ta matakia kai ta autia merikwn sto amerika!

[Dragonlord]

lol kat de sou th lew re c,h alh8eia einai pws de skeftomoun kan esena otan to egrafa-to exw akousei apo arketous.den to elega eirwnika,apla 8a ais8anomoun kapws na grapsw oti "paizoun apo metallica kai maiden mexri numetal" giati de nomizw pws antapokrinetai kati tetoio teleiws sthn alh8eia-allwste tetoia groovy merh eixan kai paliotera;ola sxedon ta kommatia einai sthn kateu8ynsh tou glass prison kai tote den eixe akoustei kati tetoio apo kanenan..o well tespa,apla den h8ela na pw oti se shmeia paizoun numetal gia na mhn pesei kanas allos panw mou kai me vrizei giati de 8a xw ti na tou pw

[The_Painless]

Oi anafores einai safeis, se arketa shmeia se 2-3 kommatia toulaxiston. De nomizw na to amfisbhtei kapoios gia na sthn pesei. Smouts.
Auto de meiwnei se tipota to album, isa isa pros timhn tous einai to gegonos oti tolmoun na agkaliasoun kati tetoio.
Telika to mono prama pou mou th spaei sto disko einai ekeino to shmeio blackened sto deutero kommati. Kai ligo parapanw Rudess. Einai anatrixila ta perissotera perasmata tou, eidika sto teleutaio kommati. Brrr.
Miam o diskos. Sta tria kalutera gia fetos.

[VirusXI]

edw aresei kai se mena...
ti leme twra 8)

[Dragonlord]

lol me to blackened pisteuw einai teleiws kollhma h fash,ka8ws einai profanes pws to kanan epithdes ka8ara ws tribute stous metallica..o ruddess epitelous akougetai 110% demenos me th mpanta.einai ligo periorismenos o rolos tou logw ths genikoterhs kateu8ynshs tou album,alla pisteuw pws sta epomena 8a exei to xwro pou tou a3izei kai pws twra pou vrhke to styl pou tairiazei perissotero stous theater 8a dwsei apisteuta pramatakia

[The_Emperor]

ena stoixeio pou einai arnhtiko GIA MENA einai orismena orxhstrika merh...
eimai tromera anektikos me mpantes pou solaroyn astamathta kai epeidh exo kateksoxhn prog akousmata ta aytia mou einai poly synithismena
alla nomizo oti oi theater se shmeia to gamane...mporei o petrucci kai o rudess na spernoun alla otan ta solarismata toys kratane 4-5 lepta mesa sto idio kommati kai malista den einai OLA ta merh ayta ousiodh pisteyo oti to kourazoun
ki ego meno me to stoma anoixto me ayta pou katebazei o petrucci alla EGO pisteyo oti to album tha htan akomh kalytero me kati tis ligotero apo ayta...
tespa...einai kathara ypokeimenikh h apopsh

[Dimitra]

lol me to blackened pisteuw einai teleiws kollhma h fash,ka8ws einai profanes pws to kanan epithdes ka8ara ws tribute stous metallica..a

Ti leme twra...To kommati einai to kati allo! Magkia tous megali i anafora stous Metallica kai mpravo tous! Theaterrrrrrr!!!!!!!!! :headbang:
Egrapsan pali!

[Angrafan]

oi prwtes 3 akroaseis mou afhsan kales entypwseis. Mporei na ftasei ta epipeda tou Scenes from a memory, alla me tipota to Images and Words

[Kingryche]

Hdh klassiko.Oi Theater gia plaka vgazoun afta pou oi alloi palevoun deka xronia na skeftoun oti tha thelan na paiksoun an mporousan.
Highlights tou diskou: Oi stixoi tou As I Am, Olo to This Dying Soul, to rafrain kai ta solo tou Endless Sacrifice, i APISTEFTI eisagogi tou Honor Thy Father, ta egxorda sto Vacant,to entelos Doom riff kai to kopsimo orgio sto In The Name Of God.
A kai o Portnoy einai xalara o mousikos tis xronias giati akouo diafora.Epaikse se 3 diskous pou einai entelos diaforetikoi kai oloi katapliktikoi me apokorifoma to Train Of Thought.Ta alla 2 einai to O.S.I. kai to prosopiko tou Neal Morse (tsekarete osoi goustarete Spock's Beard kai progrssive rock).Kai ti paragogi ekane sto TOT e?

[FIXXXER]

Sto deutero kommati einai ena shmeio teleiws Blackened. Alla den exei shmasia. O "rolos" autos tou Lamprh, tou paei polu. Loipon, biss gleich :p

O Porn Toy einai alla den peirazei.

[FIXXXER]

Maresei pou oloi goustarete to "simeio anaforas" sto Blackened, alla oi Iced Earth parolo pou exoun kanei kariera me ta "simeia anaforas", oloklires "eutheies anaforas" stous metallica na po kalutera, de sas gemizoun to mati.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

PS To kalutero simeio tou diskou einai to kopsimo sto In The Name Of God pou paizei ena beataki sample kai meta xonei xana. Makari na eixe ki alla tetoia. Kai makari na vazan paparies me ta keyboards tou Jordan (air 23) kai sto epomeno album.

[FIXXXER]

ti maresei sto neo theater:
1.to oti einai xalara to pio kitharistiko tous album
2.to oti o labrie tragoudaei toso gamata oso eixe kairo na tragoudisei
3.i paragwgi (apistefti)
4.to oti exei stigmes kai idees ekswpragmatika kales.
5.to "in the name of god" (PARA poli)


Diladi apo ta 5 pramata pou sou aresan, entaxei, gia to In The Name Of God os epixeirima to mono pou boro na po einai to Misunderstood xero go, i to Trial Of Tears i to Finally Free, alla ta alla 3 de lene kati. To mono sto opoio sumfono einai peri kitharistikou album. Allios, ok, gamates idees kai ebneuseis gia mena eixan kai ta 3 proigoumena album kai malista kaluteres, o Labrie sto Scenes kai sto Six Degrees tragoudaei AKRIVOS opos sto ToT kai i paragogi sta 3 teleutaia pali gamati itan. Opote den exo katalavei akoma giati to ToT na einai kalutero apo ta alla...

[Buddy Lackey]

oi fonitikes melwdies tou labrie einai apeirws kaliteres sto sigekrimeno album apo oti sto Six Degrees
kai to Six Degrees hto ksenera gia mena.
peri idewn: nai nai kai pantou mporei na xane , alla afto einai to thema oti akoma ekplhsoun kai les afto to pragma.
i paragogi einai xalara poli anwteri apo to six degrees, kai einai toso kathari oso sto scenes, alla pio dinati
epishs den mporw na pw akoma an theorw to ToT anwtero tou scenes, alla sigoura to theorw anwtero tou six degrees

[FIXXXER]

Apoti katalava kai gia sena diladi paei to Falling sta azitita... anywayz.

To Train Of Thought to theoro san sunolo isos kalutero apo to Six Degrees to opoio den eixe sunexeia, alla eno meta apo 3 xronia borei na min vazo oute ena kommati apo to ToT, apo to Six Degrees sigoura tha mou erthei na valo kapoia stigmi to Misunderstood, kapoia stigmi to Great Debate, kapoia alli to About To Crash kai kapoia alli to Solitary Shell... einai ena album me kaluteres stigmes gia mena.

[Buddy Lackey]

to falling maresei para poli kai exei shmeia pou eite to thes eite oxi einai POP (oxi me tin kaki ennoia omws)

[Dragonlord]

mias kai anafer8hkate sthn paragwgh,na shmeiwsw pws gia prwth fora se album twn theater akougetai ka8ara o myung

[VirusXI]

To agorasa.
Deite eidhseis gia to mege8os tou seismou kai tis apwleies se fournous ana thn Ellada, enw perimenoume thn vatraxovroxh pou elege o mpantis...
Anyway, eixa liwsei 3 kommatia sto akousma kai mexri stigmhs osa exw akousei ektos aytwn einai epishs g.
Prwth fora maresoun parapanw apo 2 kommatia se disko theater, kai malista xwris na pw kan "an kai to ... einai poly ... kai o malakas o .... 8a mporouse na ....".
Prwth fora m'aresoun ta vox tou malaka k prwth fora m'aresoun oi klassikoi avnanismoi (efoson periorizontai sta shmeia twn kommatiwn pou xwnetai to solo, symfwnh me th xevimetals domh grapsimatos =b)
Prwth fora mou fainontai oloklhromena kommatia kai oxi tzamarismata.

Polles kraygalees epirroes se polla shmeia, endeiktika: Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer kai alla pio heavymetal pou den mou rxontai sto myalo ayth th stigmh, enw kai riffing ala M.Head kai Nevermore se faseis.
Merika Aravika gia proskynhma :twisted: Eipame xitzaz = best klimaka ever 8)
Poios eixe pei oti to As I Am einai malakia? Einai poly oloklhromeno k ousiwdes kommati gia ta prog aytakia tou? adsfas

[FIXXXER]

To As I Am einai KOMMATARA kai malista gia enan parapano logo, gia ta pliktra pou exei valei o theos sto prechorus. Episis ithela na po oti eno ta 6 kommatia mou aresoun apo para polu eos ta vrisko theika, to Honor My Father pragmatika pisteuo oti einai ena entelos anousio kai vareto kommati me exairesi ena simeio meta ta prota logia...

Episis, theiko einai to Endless Sacrifice kai to In The Name Of God ennoeitai, enas apo tous kainourious umnous ton Theater apo ti fainetai... gia na min po gia to entelos LTE2 gamato instrumental kai to kalutero kommati tou diskou to Vacant.

Oxi gia na mi lete oti to thavo kiolas. :P

[FIXXXER]

to falling maresei para poli kai exei shmeia pou eite to thes eite oxi einai POP (oxi me tin kaki ennoia omws)

Me tin ennoia pou to les (me tin opoia sumfono) to Images kai to Scenes exoun pio polla simeia POP, alla de blepo kanenan na to leei pouthena...

[Buddy Lackey]

me tpt , to images oute anna lee exei, oute take away my pain , oute you not me klp exei aplws shmeia (ante take the time LIGO) kai to saksofono another day

[Dragonlord]

@virus:den eixa pei pws einai malakia to as i am,apla san prwth epafh me neo yliko theater den htan o,ti kalytero-den htan kati pou mono oi theater 8a mporousan na grapsoun,kai otan perimeneis neo disko theater perimeneis kommatia epipedou endless sacrifice,honor they father,itnog klp.to 8ewrw sygkritika to ligotero a3ioshmeiwto kommati tou album.pleon to goustarw arketa,dynato,piasariko kai me poly dynatous stixous.apla an htan ola ta kommatia etsi 8a 3enerwna giati apo tous theater perimenw kati "parapanw".alla auto den perimenw na to katalavei kapoios pou de goustarei ta prohgoumena album tous opote sygxwreisai

[daydreamer]

Well, έγραψα (ως συνήθως) ένα άρθρο για το Train Of Thought στο Xalara.net...
Ακολουθεί ένα μεγάλο απόσπασμα...

Οι πρώτες εντυπώσεις... “The new progressive metal masterpiece from Dream Theater” λέει το αυτοκόλλητο πάνω στο cd, είναι όντως έτσι τα πράγματα; Για να δούμε... Και συνεχίζει το ίδιο αυτοκόλλητο “Featuring As I Am'”... Το 7λεπτο 'As I Am' ήταν το πρώτο δείγμα γραφής από το Train Of Thought καθώς εκτός του ότι είναι το 1ο κομμάτι του album, είναι επίσης και το τραγούδι που δόθηκε στους ραδιοφωνικούς σταθμούς καθώς και στο internet αρκετές μέρες πριν την κυκλοφορία του album. Είναι ένα τραγούδι-έκπληξη. Γιατί; Επειδή επιβεβαιώνει τα λεγόμενα του Portnoy, φωνάζει από μακριά Metallica. Το ριφ του John Petrucci, και γενικότερα ο ήχος της κιθάρας μοιάζουν να έχουν έρθει από την εποχή του Load και ίσως και πιο παλιά, επίσης στα φωνητικά έχουμε τον James LaBrie να προσπαθεί να μιμηθεί τον James Hetfield χωρίς βέβαια να τα καταφέρνει αλλά, και ευτυχώς, χωρίς να γίνεται ενοχλητικός. Το τραγούδι είναι ενδιαφέρον (κυρίως στο σημείο που ο Petrucci ξεσαλλώνει!!) αλλά είναι εμφανές ότι δεν αντιπροσωπεύει τους Dream Theater. Πρέπει εδώ να πούμε (πόσο μου αρέσει να μιλάω για μένα στον πληθυντικό!!) πως η όλη φιλοσοφία των Dream Theater είχε τεθεί σε αμφισβήτηση (από ποιόν; Από μένα ντε!!) καθώς άλλοτε η σιγή και άλλοτε οι δηλώσεις των μελών τους (κυρίως του κυρίου Portnoy) για γεγονότα όπως ο «πόλεμος κατά της τρομοκρατίας» δεν έκαναν και την καλύτερη εντύπωση. Έτσι και η κατά τα φαινόμενα στροφή προς πιο εμπορική μουσική ή προς μουσική κατά παραγγελία (του στυλ, ας κάνουμε τώρα ένα album που θα είναι έτσι, κι έτσι.) επιβάρυνε την κατάσταση αυτή.

Το album: Με επιφύλαξη λοιπόν, περνάω στη συνέχεια... Χαμός!! Το 11λεπτο 'This Dying Soul' είναι η συνέχεια του 'The Glass Prison' που βρισκόταν στο προηγούμενό τους album Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence (2002), ένα τραγούδι που ασχολείται με τον αλκοολισμό, και είναι μάλιστα αφιερωμένο στον Bill W. ιδρυτή των Ανώνυμων Αλκοολικών, είναι ένα καταιγιστικό κομμάτι που θυμίζει αρκετά το 'The Glass Prison' (έχει άλλωστε και ένα ίδιο ριφ), αν και δεν το φτάνει. Φτάνει όμως για να καταλάβω ότι οι Dream Theater δεν έχουν σταματήσει να δημιουργούν απίστευτη μουσική με τη προσωπική τους πάντα σφραγίδα, χωρίς να πέφτουν στα λάθη που φοβόμουν. Το επίσης 11λεπτο 'Endless Sacrifice' που ακολουθεί είναι το αγαπημένο μου κομμάτι του Train Of Thought, ξεκινά σαν μια ήρεμη μπαλαντα που όμως εξελλίσεται σε ένα δυνατό κομμάτι με ένα απίστευτα πιασάρικο ρυθμό στο ρεφραίν και όμορφα progressive instrumental σημεία (διαρκούν 5 λεπτά!!!). Η συνέχεια έχει μια ακόμη έκπληξη, η αρχή του 10λεπτου 'Honor Thy Father' θυμίζει για λίγο thrash (!) και μετά την εισαγωγή ο LaBrie μπαίνει ίσως με τον καλύτερο τρόπο που έχει μπει ποτέ σε τραγούδι για να συνεχίσει λίγο αργότερα με επιθετικά φωνητικά (που οριακά μπορούν να χαρακτηριστούν nu-metal) σε ένα οργισμένο τραγούδι στο οποίο οι στίχοι του Portnoy μιλάνε για τον πατριό του με πικρία. Σ’αυτό το κομμάτι ξανάρχονται τα γνωστά στους Theater samples ταινιών και δίνουν τη σκυτάλη σε ένα ακόμη instrumental όργιο. Το 'Vacant', η 3λεπτη μπαλάντα που ακολουθεί, ηρεμεί τα πράγματα και αν και δεν είναι η καλύτερη μπαλάντα των Theater, είναι σίγουρα ένα πολύ όμορφο και γλυκό τραγούδι. Το 11λεπτο (ναι, κι αυτό!!!) instrumental 'Stream Of Consciousness' είναι για μένα το πιο ωραίο instrumental κομμάτι που έχουν γράψει ποτέ οι Theater, με τους Petrucci και Jordan Rudess (keyboards) να έχουν τον πρώτο λόγο μοιράζοντας όμορφα solo. To τελευταίο κομμάτι του δίσκου 'In The Name Of God', σίγουρα ξεχωρίζει για το ανατολίτικο ριφ (επιτέλους!! Ά ρε 'Home'!!), αλλά κυρίως για τους στίχους που θίγουν το θέμα της θρησκευτικής βίας, είναι ίσως το καλύτερο κομμάτι του album, (αλλά είπαμε, όχι το αγαπημένο μου!). Η παραγωγή του δίσκου των Portnoy και Petrucci είναι από τις καλύτερες, μόνο ίσως ελάττωμα; Ο ήχος του Rudess (keyboards) είναι πιο χαμηλά από όσο θα θέλαμε, αλλά για αυτό ευθύνεται η μουσική κατεύθυνση του δίσκου, αυτός είναι άλλωστε ο λόγος που ακούμε το μπάσο του Myung καλύτερα από ποτέ! Εννοείται βέβαια πως ο Petrucci (κιθάρα) έχει πρωταγωνιστικό ρόλο και όχι άδικα!! Σε όλη τη διάρκεια του album είναι φανερό προς τα πού ήθελαν να κινηθούν οι Dream Theater, προς το heavy metal... και τα κατάφεραν! Tο Train Of Thought είναι το πιο βαρύ τους album, και μάλιστα χωρίς να χαθεί ο προσωπικός ήχος του συγκροτήματος, η μουσική του Train Of Thought παραμένει progressive και ξεχωρίζει από τον σωρό ως συνήθως. Είναι όμως αληθινά προοδευτική; Μάλλον όχι, αυτό είναι και το γεγονός που ίσως φέρει μια μικρή απογοήτευση σε κάποιους. Είναι όμως η πρόοδος αυτοσκοπός;

ΥΓ: Το άρθρο βρίσκεται ολόκληρο
εδώ (http://www.xalara.net/article.cfm?ID=188)...

[Kveldssanger]

De prokeitai na grapso polla pragmata... To exo akousei merikes fores to album kai ayta pou tha po einai protes entyposeis... To album mou fainetai arketa kalo, oxi kati to aristourghmatiko, alla ena album pou periexei kalh mousiki... H nea tous, pio heavy kateythynsi den einai katholou asximi, exallou exoun arketh empeiria oste na grafoun kala tragoudia... Exei oraies stigmes, o Rudess mallon xreiazotan parapano xoro vevaia... To monadiko tou meionektima einai isos h diarkeia, afou ta tragoudia exoun merh pou tha mporousan sigoura na leipoun.... Episis orismenes fores ta solo tis kitharas kourazoun... Genika pisteyo oti einai ena album pou de tha antexei kai para poly sto stereo, alla gia tora akougetai eyxarista... Fysika mporei me to kairo na allaxei h gnomi mou.... Ola einai pithana :P

[cancer]

to album einai apauta pou mporeis na arakseis kai na apolauseis. se simeia mou thimizei awake kai, idiaitera sta solos, to sfam.

to mono pou den exo katalabei einai o logos gia ton opoio oi theater "barainoun" apo album se album. mia xara ixo den eixan sto images px (to anafero giati einai simeio komviko kai ousiastika i arxi tis karieras tous)? nomizoun oti einai iper tous na "barainoun"? isa isa, pou an tora den ipirxe o labrie kai ta xaraktiristika solo/askiseis na min itan toso anagnorisimoi...

[cancer]

np dream theater - honor thy father

necro de sou lega oti oi soad 8a epirreasoun poly kosmo?

[WoTaN]

Fusiko einai.Edw epireasan tous metallica oi theater tha kolwnan na epireastoun?

[Kingryche]

mou eksigite kai emena pou epireasan oi SOAD tous Theater?Oi Tool OK to katalavaino alla oi SOAD apo pou kai os pou? :o

[cancer]

apla akou to. de leo oti olokliro einai etsi bebaia, alla to arxiko riff, kapoies krauges argotera... merika pragmata aplws kanoun mpam. 8es na anafero kai sigekrimenes stigmes tou komatiou?
ektos an den exeis akousei soad...

[StationEleven]

nta3i de to xw akousei akoma alla pou to kako de katalabainw?
sound fine to me 8)

[WoTaN]

To kako einai oti kapote oi Theater eixan proswpiko xaraktira stin mousiki tous.
Twra pleon i mousiki tous einai ena uvridio.

[StationEleven]

kyklos einai ta panta
anakyklwsh kai sth mousikh
aresei den aresei de ginete alliws
ektos kai an periemeneis na sou pai3oun 324324 apaixta "gamaw ta daxtyla mou kai dimiourgw mia paparia gia na eimai texnikos kai na mhn mou th pei kanenas oti antigrafw" riff wste na exoun diko tous styl :P
aplh mousikh me feeling kai kalo desimo , auta einai re

[Buddy Lackey]

anekathen i mousiki twn theater itan ena ivridio,opws kai twn perisoterwn groups ston kosmo

[StationEleven]

periergh mera shmera...symfwnw kai me ton buddy... :roll:

[VirusXI]

nai. mporw na pw oti symfwnaw kai gw.
ta "gamaw ta daxtyla mou kai dimiourgw mia paparia gia na eimai texnikos kai na mhn mou th pei kanenas oti antigrafw" shmeia exoun perioristei sto standar xwro gia malakinsh tou ka8e kommatiou kai de to gamane apthn arxh ws to telos. eipame arxisan na grafoun syn8etoun oloklhromena kommatia epitelous.
giauto den aresei kai stous theaterades (me th gnwsth ennoia tou orou) kai to goustaroun oloi.
yeah!

[Buddy Lackey]

anekathen
grafan tetoia tragoudia (oloklhromena)

[VirusXI]

παπάργια. plhn elaxistwn eksairesewn.
afou me ksereis twra... 8)

[Buddy Lackey]

nai
gia afto epimenw
opws epimenw sto oti einai adynaton na saresei to ToT toso poli , kai na min saresei to Images allo toso
ama to ksanakouseis tora again and again tha allakseis gnwmi

[VirusXI]

yawn.
kala
mama mama aytos panamekaneitheateraaaaa
mpoue mpoue

[WoTaN]

mpanti eimai sigouros oti katalabeneis ti thelw na pw apla den thes na to katalabeis :P

[StationEleven]

ixixi

[Kingryche]

Oxi mono exo akousei SOAD alla eimai megaliteros opados tous ap'oso tha nomizes...
Kai epeidi exo akousei para poli SOAD adinato na ta vro afta ta simeia,alitheia oxi giati theoro ipotimitiko to na epireazetai apo SOAD (kathe allo) apla den nomizo pos einai to style mpantas pou tha mporouse na epireasei tous Theater.
Oso gia tous Theater theoro oti einai i sinistameni toson pollon sinistoson pou en telei dimiourgoun kati entelos diko tous,me ti diki tous stofa.Ekripsan pote oi Theater oti einai opadoi toson sigrotimatwn?Den nomizo pos meta apo tosi mousiki iparxei kathara nea mousiki alla den prospatho na analiso pou stirixtikan,poios efivre afton ton ixo,se ti moiazei dld den mou aresei na to psirizo toso.Nomizo oti xanetai to noima.
OK kai to arpisma stin arxi tou Endless Sacrifice thimizei apistefta to Give In To Me apo Michael Jackson (paizei kai o Slash sto kommati).Ti prepei na poume oti antigrafoun i epireazontai apo Michael Jackon oi Dream Theater?Den tous fainetai...

[cancer]

oi epirroes apo soad einai parapanw apo profaneis. an den tis akous den akous, genika. simfonise kai o symposium.

[Kingryche]

Ti ennoeis den akouo?Oraia afou tis akous esi toso kathara pes mou kapoia simeia pou einai to profanes oti einai epireasmena apo SOAD kai oxi apo Metallica px.Mipos otan leme epirroes apo nu metal aftes einai mono apo SOAD?

[cancer]

1. to arxiko riff
2. o ri8mos meta to arxiko riff (0:15...) karfi soad
3. 1:26...
4. 1:59...
5. 2:33-2:35 <- simeio pou den iparxei allou sti diskografia twn theater, apodeiknyei kanonika auta pou leo.

ta parapanw epanalamvanontai kai argotera sto song.

[Kingryche]

se poio song omos?
sigoura oxi sto Vacant! 8)

[Dragonlord]

1. to arxiko riff

gia to honor thy father milaei nomizw.
eimai sth sxolh :shock: kai gi auto de mporw na akousw ola ta shmeia pou les,alla les vlakeies :oops:
gia paradeigma,giati to arxiko riff na einai ephreasmeno apo soad kai oxi apo to dyers eve pou vghke mia dekaetia prin tous soad?

[cancer]

to oti vgike 10 xronia prin einai ena eidos epixeirimatos?

[Kveldssanger]

Apla mallon ennoei oti pithanon akougontai paromoia giati mporei na exoun ephreastei apo to idio pragma...

[Kingryche]

Nomizo pos kalifthika apo ton Pano.
Sto 1.26 an nomizeis oti einai epireasmenoi apo SOAD kaneis lathos.To simeio einai fanera TOOL.Klassiki mpasogrammi nootropias Tool.
Sro 1.59 ta nu metal pros rap fonitika sou fernoun SOAD?Emena pali katholou...
Oute sto 2.33-2.35 katalava kammia epiroi apo SOAD?3 defterolpta apodikneioun afta pou les?Akomi kai na'nai epireasmena einai 3 deftera.
Mallon oi SOAD kai oi Theater exoun kapoies koines epiroes (Metallica).

[cancer]

Nomizo pos kalifthika apo ton Pano.
Sto 1.26 an nomizeis oti einai epireasmenoi apo SOAD kaneis lathos.To simeio einai fanera TOOL.Klassiki mpasogrammi nootropias Tool.
Sro 1.59 ta nu metal pros rap fonitika sou fernoun SOAD?Emena pali katholou...
Oute sto 2.33-2.35 katalava kammia epiroi apo SOAD?3 defterolpta apodikneioun afta pou les?Akomi kai na'nai epireasmena einai 3 deftera.
Mallon oi SOAD kai oi Theater exoun kapoies koines epiroes (Metallica).
A ENTAKSEI BRE!
TA TELEIWS NU-SOAD STUFF OI THEATER SAUTO TO KOMATI TA PIRAN APO POIO DISKO TWN METALLICA EIPAME? KAI OI SOAD TO IDIO IPOTHETW.


oxi allo karvouno REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

[Kingryche]

Sorry alla adinato na se katanoiso...Anyway oti se ikanopoiei, an afto einai epiroes SOAD ok as einai.

[cancer]

ahoy

[StationEleven]

reload ok? 8)

[FIXXXER]

Vasika i eisagogi tou Honor Thy Father einai to Damage Inc paigmeno pio grigora, to As I Am einai ena kommati pou tha borouse ama tou vgaleis ta pliktra kai paixeis ena arketa ligotero texniko solo na einai sto Load, to Glass Prison exei mesa ligo apo to Blackened... akoma kai to riff tou In The Name Of God san Metallica akougetai.

Entometaxy, ego exo akousei pano apo 30-40 fores kai ta tria albums ton SOAD kai den exo vrei tin paramikri epirroi sto TOT.

[cancer]

Entometaxy, ego exo akousei pano apo 30-40 fores kai ta tria albums ton SOAD kai den exo vrei tin paramikri epirroi sto TOT.
esy dikaiologeisai.

[FIXXXER]

Geia sou re gamia cancer!!!!! Ola ta xereis esy re thee!!! Re paidia, sas parakalo stamatiste na kanete post sta threads pou apantaei o cancer, giati polu apla otan kanei post, ta leei ola kai meta otidipote einai peritto. Gamaei o cancer.

[cancer]

ok de dikaiologeisai. :roll:

[Lateral]

GAMEI K DERNEI!Kai as fernei se Pantera,kai as thumizei metallica kai as akougetai-se shmeia!-san na epaizan oi Tool me pliktra :wink: ..Einai Thearer gamw tin koinwnia... :twisted:
Ante,na tous xana-dw kai live na apotrelathw...
eVIVA

[WoTaN]

xaxaxaaxaxxa cancer xaxax
theossssss!

[enitharmon]

to pira xtes kai to akouw twra...
merika simeia einai entelws aunanismos kai ta variemai....

[Buddy Lackey]

kapote tha korifothoun omws.

[enitharmon]

ta simeia? nai...
apla den antexw na akouw to Petrucci na paizei skales...
den eipa oti einai asximo (btw, molis mpike to Vacant... :shock: )

[Buddy Lackey]

allo ennoousa

[enitharmon]

gia pes

[symposium_lexotanil]

ennoei oti tha xysoun kai tsoup tha sou rthoun sti mouri.
to pa kompsa e

[cancer]

tzoni elegkans

[Buddy Lackey]

ts ts

[enitharmon]

lege re Buddy!!!

[eyeamflesch]

Diskara opws kathe diskos tous meta to "When dream...".

[The Butcher]

when dream and day unite> train of thought

vsk wdadu> to 80% twn simerinwn "progressive" sygrotimatwn.


toso kairo de milisa gia theater, ksekiniste twra ena wraio flame... :twisted:

[eyeamflesch]

when dream and day unite> train of thought

vsk wdadu> to 80% twn simerinwn "progressive" sygrotimatwn.


toso kairo de milisa gia theater, ksekiniste twra ena wraio flame... :twisted:

Apopseis 8)

[rockavlon]

swstos an kai to images tou rixnei ligo :P

[FIXXXER]

To WDADU einai oti pio apexthes exoun kukloforisei oi Theater kai to mono kommati pou gamaei einai to instrumental Ytse Jam(giati arage?).

Dominnicci = megas karagkiozis, tamtakos, murtsos.

[The Butcher]

malista, petaxtike k o AXRISTOS o fixxxer na pei ti MALAKIA tou! :D

ksekolla re me ton tragoudiari, grafoun oi theater simera killing hand i afterlife? pipes.

tompoulo.

[Dimitra]

tzoni elegkans

Asxeto alla Johnny Elegance rules! Ataka pros Stella Mpezantakou : "Ax, agapi mou, eisai TSOKARO!" :rofl: :rofl:

Oso gia Theater (gia na mi bgw kai off topic kai me timwrisei o Coroner :P ) to Train of Thought einai ontws ena polu kalo album alla gia mena oi DT piasan to peak tous me to Scenes._

[eyeamflesch]

tzoni elegkans

Asxeto alla Johnny Elegance rules! Ataka pros Stella Mpezantakou : "Ax, agapi mou, eisai TSOKARO!" :rofl: :rofl:

Oso gia Theater (gia na mi bgw kai off topic kai me timwrisei o Coroner :P ) to Train of Thought einai ontws ena polu kalo album alla gia mena oi DT piasan to peak tous me to Scenes._

Gia mena eFtyxws den yparxei kapoio "peak" tous kai se kathe disko me ikanopoian to idio me ton proigoumeno. Isws na einai i moni banda (pera apo Ozric) pou mporw na pw pws perimenw ton opoiodipote epomeno disko tis.

[atom_smasher]

mou aresei para polu autos o diskos.den eimai opados twn drream theater kai pera apo to images den me polusygkinousan.auton to n akouw euxarista.isws perissotero kai apo oti to images.exei veveia 2-3 shmeia pou den mou aresoun alla ok einai enas polu kalos diskos.oxi o kaluteros gia mena persu alla auta einai upokeimenika opws oloi gnwrizete.

[FIXXXER]

malista, petaxtike k o AXRISTOS o fixxxer na pei ti MALAKIA tou! :D

ksekolla re me ton tragoudiari, grafoun oi theater simera killing hand i afterlife? pipes.

tompoulo.

Eutuxos anti gia killing hand kai afterlife (eleos re butcher :P ) grafoun This Dying Soul kai In The Name Of God.... polu protimotero to vrisko. Asxeto, alla to Train Of Thought telika mou aresei polu perissotero apoti stin arxi. An thesoume thema sugrisis vevaia, opos sunithizetai stous metallades, to Scenes From A Memory einai kalutero, alla kai to ToT gamaei.

[Sotos_The_Tequiler]

τολμώ να πω, τώρα, ύστερα από τόσα χρόνια ότι τελικά το Train of Thought είναι σαν σύνολο μερικά κλικ πιο πάνω (για μένα) από το Images and Words.
Άσχετα με το γεγονός του τι ήταν το Images για την εποχή του έτσι...

Άκυρη φλασιά: τις πρώτες φορές που άκουσα τότε το As I Am, σε όλη τη διάρκεια του 1ου λεπτού (πριν μπει το ριφ) μου θύμιζε λίγο πιο Death Metal κατάσταση (Κάτι σε Carcass ας πούμε :P)

[Candiru]

το train of thought μαζί με Images & change of seasons είναι οι κορυφαίες τους δουλειές.

το as I am μου θυμίζει μεταλλικα το wherever i may roam. Συνολικά είναι ένα κράμα μεταλλικα και σάμπαθ

[FIXXXER]

Ο χειροτερος τους δισκος με διαφορα (ο πρωτος δε μετραει καν)

[Candiru]

:moutza:

This is hard, heavy progressive metal at its very best lyrically and musically. 4,5/5 all music

[Phantom Duck]

πέφτει το ίντερν

[ikonoklast]

Ο χειροτερος τους δισκος με διαφορα (ο πρωτος δε μετραει καν)

Αν λες για το train of thought αυτό μου είναι πολύ ευχάριστο γιατί αντικειμενικά -για μη γελοίους ακροατές- είναι ο μόνος αξιοπρεπής δίσκος που έβγαλαν ποτέ αυτοί οι σαβούρηδες.

[distortionofperception]

ΕΙΜΑΙ ΓΕΛΟΙΟΣ

[ikonoklast]

:D

[Phantom Duck]

ikonoklast trolled.


Eutuxos anti gia killing hand kai afterlife (eleos re butcher :P ) grafoun This Dying Soul kai In The Name Of God.... polu protimotero to vrisko. Asxeto, alla to Train Of Thought telika mou aresei polu perissotero apoti stin arxi. An thesoume thema sugrisis vevaia, opos sunithizetai stous metallades, to Scenes From A Memory einai kalutero, alla kai to ToT gamaei.

[ikonoklast]

Φίξερ είναι ρε βλάκα, και τα δύο ισχύουν!

[Boris-san]

Πολυ αποτομα αλλαζει ο Φιξξξερ γνωμη,εκτος αν ωριμασε μεσα του 5 χρονια μετα

[FIXXXER]

Ικονοκλαστ, προτασιακη λογικη εχεις περασει? Το οτι θεωρω πως ειναι το δευτερο χειροτερο τους δε σημαινει οτι δεν το θεωρω καλο σε μια γραμμικη κλιμακα στην οποια θα εμπαιναν δισκογραφιες αλλων συγκροτηματων, καθοτι αλλωστε φανμποι με Dream Theater. Συγκριτικα ομως με τα αλλα τους ειναι υπερμετριο (παραδεχομαι οτι τοτε μου αρεσε πολυ περισσοτερο απο οτι τωρα, ειναι και 5 χρονια πριν ε).

[ikonoklast]

Ικονοκλαστ, προτασιακη λογικη εχεις περασει?
Μη μπερδεύεις στη κουβέντα τα κόμπλεξ σου σαν εφαρμοσμένος απέναντι σ' αυτούς που κάνουν ΑΛΗΘΙΝΑ μαθηματικά!

Έχω περάσει πιθανότητες Β' Λυκείου όμως, γι' αυτό και είπα ότι και τα δύο ισχύουν!!!!!!! Τσακάλι ο δικός σου. :wink::wink:

[FIXXXER]

Mην το παιζεις χαζος, δε σου παει, τοσο αχρηστος που δεν ξερεις οτι εγω ουδεμια σχεση με μαθηματικα εχω, περαν του οτι μαλλον μου παιρνει το μισο χρονο για να τα καταλαβω αν χρειαστει απο οτι εσυ.

[ikonoklast]

Mην το παιζεις χαζος, δε σου παει, τοσο αχρηστος που δεν ξερεις οτι εγω ουδεμια σχεση με μαθηματικα εχω, περαν του οτι μαλλον μου παιρνει το μισο χρονο για να τα καταλαβω αν χρειαστει απο οτι εσυ.

Φαίνεται πως είσαι ΜΑΓΚΑΣ τότε φίλε μου.

[GuardianOfIvorytower]

Μόνο τα τραγούδια τους που έχει τραγουδήσει ο Arch στα ντέμο αξίζουν 8)