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president
05-11-2003, 07:10
Ένα σοβαρό thread από τον President (the one and only) για το ER,προς το ER,για το λαό του ER.(Mη το γαμήσετε.....)
The_Emperor
05-11-2003, 09:27
ayto pou pshfisa ki oles tis ypoloipes
to akyro dhladh
Magellan
05-11-2003, 11:21
i psifos einai mistiki
Sosta einai mistiki...den sas leo, den sas leo, den sas leo...
marianna2525
05-11-2003, 11:59
ego den xero ti tha psifiso fetos, tha sas po omos ti psifisa stis evroekloges tou 1999.
oi ekloges aftes eginan stis 13 iouniou.
stis 12 iouniou eihe ginei i synavlia ton metallica sti rizoupoli.
epeidi to sok pou epatha itan megalo (efharisto sok ennoeitai), tin epomeni evala ena scannarismeno antigrafo tou eisitiriou mesa sto fakello, anti gia kapoio psifodeltio, lol.
afta.
The_Nihilist
05-11-2003, 13:18
afou ta idia skata einai oloi more tora ti asxolisai??
leyko opos panta..
Buddy Lackey
05-11-2003, 14:35
psifizw president
StationEleven
05-11-2003, 14:38
berghs
Dragonlord
05-11-2003, 15:07
st anger
Kalitera na bazes poll :)
The_Painless
05-11-2003, 16:18
Syn.
The Sentinel
05-11-2003, 16:19
Xalara pasok.;)
irreligious
05-11-2003, 16:22
propably kinezo.....
Dragonlord
05-11-2003, 16:27
o synaspismos so far mou htan to pio sympa8es komma alla ki ekei mouni exoun ginei teleutaia me thn apoxwrhsh ths damanakh klp.apo ta ypoloipa kommata 8ewrw ligotero skata to pasok alla mallon de 8a pshfisw tipota.akyro or sth
irreligious
05-11-2003, 16:29
apo ta ypoloipa kommata 8ewrw ligotero skata to pasok
that's da point...prospatheis na vreis to ligotero skata komma...
The_Painless
05-11-2003, 16:30
Arnoumai na upokupsw ston peirasmo na mhn pshfisw tipota.
Kai apex8anomai to gegonos oti polloi ap'osous 8a pshfisoun PASOK 8a to kanoun gia na mh bgei h ND :(
Ti skata einai auta?
Amnesiac.
05-11-2003, 16:30
o amnesiac einai omofylofilos kai kanei pipes.
to zampon einai ol taim klasik. egw 8elw na vrw kati pio prwtotypo.
Aporw pws 8ewreitai "to ligotero skata" komma to PASOK, to opoio vrisketai sthn e3ousia 20 xronia ki exei kanei th xwra mouni. Dhladh me poia sygkritika krithria einai "ligotero skata"? Epeidh 8ewreite ton Karamanlh, thn Paparhga kai tous loipous antipa8htikes fysiognwmies?
Anyway panta eixa auth thn aporia.
Epishs an einai na ri3eis leuko ri3e kalytera akyro.
Magellan
05-11-2003, 17:34
mporei kaneis na psifisei pasok giati autoi tosa xronia bgalane arketa apo tis mizes kai exoun xortasei
enw oi alloi 8a 8elisoun na fane kai autoi kati opote.........
Dragonlord
05-11-2003, 17:35
pente pramata ta exei kanei pantws,mouni htan aneka8en kai den pisteuw pws twra einai pio mouni apo palia.
ola ta kommata ths antipoliteushs me isws e3airesh to synaspismo mia zwh legan anefiktes pipes apla gia na feroun antirrhsh stis kinhseis ths kyvernhshs.thats my fuckin opinion kai den exw ore3h na thn yperaspistw,an pisteuete pws to pasok den einai to ligotero skata komma me geia sas me xara sas:p
@painless:oute emena m'aresei auth h katastash alla einai aplos realismos.ontws an de vgei to pasok 8a vgei h nd kai an pisteueis pws einai shmantikotero na mh vgei h nd sthn kyvernhsh apo to na exei ena vouleuth parapanw o syn h to kke,mporeis na pshfiseis pasok.zygizeis tis proteraiothtes sou kai pshfizeis..
After Dark
05-11-2003, 17:36
Oikologoi Elladas.Thlefws,u know...
pente pramata ta exei kanei pantws,mouni htan aneka8en kai den pisteuw pws twra einai pio mouni apo palia.
Pio palia htan xounta kai prin apo auto vasileia.
The_Painless
05-11-2003, 17:41
@painless:oute emena m'aresei auth h katastash alla einai aplos realismos.ontws an de vgei to pasok 8a vgei h nd kai an pisteueis pws einai shmantikotero na mh vgei h nd sthn kyvernhsh apo to na exei ena vouleuth parapanw o syn h to kke,mporeis na pshfiseis pasok.zygizeis tis proteraiothtes sou kai pshfizeis..
Opws eipes ki esy prohgoumenws, mou einai to pio sumpa8es komma. Oso sumpa8es mporei na einai ena komma fusika...dld @@ alla leme twra. H alh8eia omws einai oti den exoume kai polles epiloges. Kalws 'h kakws tosa xronia paizei rolo o paragontas amesothta (bl. rousfetia) apo to "epipedo" ths topikhs autodioikhshs se opoio epipedo ftanei auth h istoria. Poios gamaei tis ideologies edw pou exoume ftasei. Anyway, einai poly bareto to zhthma pleon.
Magellan
05-11-2003, 17:41
kai h xounta ekane erga..........alla pws mporeis na ipostirikseis kapoion pou den se afine na ekfrasteis eleu8era?
Amnesiac.
05-11-2003, 17:42
symfwnw me dragonlord.
xwris se kamia periptwsi na ypostirizw to PASOK, to skeftomai sovara na to psifisw stis ekloges akrivws gia na mi vgei i ND.
ND saks mpigk taim. kai na ypenthymisw oti i ND ypirkse kyvernisi gia mia trietia an den kanw lathos.
a elpizw na min einai kaneis toso vlakas edw mesa wste na krinei ton allon me vasi to ti tha psifisei.
aytonoito men alla kalo na epanalamvanetai.
psychotron
05-11-2003, 17:53
vasika symfwnw me ang69 (Aporw pws 8ewreitai "to ligotero skata" komma to PASOK, to opoio vrisketai sthn e3ousia 20 xronia ki exei kanei th xwra mouni). proswpika 8ewrw to shmith ton xeirotero pro8ypourgo meta th metapoliteush. alla opws leei ki o dragonlord, that's only my fuckin' opinion k den exw ore3h na thn yperaspistw.
8a pshfisw oti pshfizw sta8era thn teleutaia dekaetia.
rincewind2k
05-11-2003, 18:06
xm kapoios mou eixe pei oti KAI ta leyka KAI ta akyra metrountai, telika, yper aytou pou yperisxyse, dunno
pantws pali akyro tha fane. an ginotan tha trwgane kai petres alla den ginetai
The_Emperor
05-11-2003, 18:21
twra pou to ksanskeftomai den tha xreiastei na psifiso katholoy...
:chef:
Dragonlord
05-11-2003, 18:32
xm kapoios mou eixe pei oti KAI ta leyka KAI ta akyra metrountai, telika, yper aytou pou yperisxyse, dunno
exw thn entypwsh pws auto isxyei mono gia ta leuka,alla den ton kovw se kamia periptwsh
rincewind2k
05-11-2003, 18:36
nai kai egw etsi nomiza, gi ayto spasthka otan mou to 'pan (kai to eipa giati kapou anefere kapoios oti kalytera akyro para leyko)
freak brother
05-11-2003, 18:40
ama vgei h nd tha xei mesa vouleutes typou pswmiadh kai alogoskoufh ase pou xoune perasei apo thn parataxh ths mixaloliakoi , karatzaferides , lukourezoi... ase pou to prwto pragma pou tha poun otan vgoun einai to all time classic .. paralavame xaos... ase pou o karamanlhs einai o pleon antipathestatos anthrwpos gia mena ston politiko stivo (wow)... mporei h xwra na einai skata alla einai kalutera apotan htan to 91 pou xe vgei an den apatwme h nd kai ekane trietia logo samara.. kai to pasok SKATA me kefalaia einai.. alla auto xeroume auto empistevomaste.. an pshfiseis pantws akuro h leuko einai san na pshfizeis nd.. opote kati allo ... den xerw ti tha pshfisw akoma tha to skeftw panw sthn kalph moxauxua
freak brother
05-11-2003, 18:41
kai ta leuka kai ta akyra pane yper tou kommatos pou xei tous perissoterous pshfous... opote oxi lefka kai oxi akyra se thalasses kai se akt... exm stis kalpes
rincewind2k
05-11-2003, 18:45
kai to pasok SKATA me kefalaia einai.. alla auto xeroume auto empistevomaste..
h klassikh malakismenh apopsh, no offence - den to lew mono gia sena, alla mh sas akousw na gkriniazete meta. opws strwnei kaneis tha koimhthei.
an pshfiseis pantws akuro h leuko einai san na pshfizeis nd..
huh?
freak brother
05-11-2003, 18:49
se periptwsh pou kerdizei h nd px h pasok se periptwsh pou kerdizei to pasok... alla pio pithano vriskw to 1o
president
05-11-2003, 19:28
Oi pio polloi eiste kammenoi edw mesa.Ti pasok,nd,syn kai kke?ena einai to komma:PADHKE.Stis proigoumenes ekloges pire treis psifous.H mia itan diki mou.....
freak brother
05-11-2003, 19:32
to kalhtero htan to komma olympismou mou fenete pou eixe 11 ypopsifious kai peire 2 pshfous xax.axaxa
president
05-11-2003, 19:34
toulaxiston eixame enotita.....
The Sentinel
05-11-2003, 20:29
H xwra den exei ginei mouni apo to pasok.Opoios de vlepei tin exelixi kai ta erga pou ginontai mallon einai tyflos.H nd tha ekane polla apo auta?Sas parakalw...Kai o kathenas psifizei gia diaforetikous logous.Allos giati pisteuei se mia politiki ideologia.Allos psifizei auotn pou tha tou dwsei fragka, allos de thelei na psifisei.Rixnei leuko akyro ktl.MEGA LATHOS.Gia auto to dikaiwma, ypirxan anthrwpoi sto parelthon oi opoioi agwnistikan, de dianoeitai o Neoellinas na to katapata.PREPEI na psifizei auto pou tha kanei kalo sti xwra.H' toulaxiston auto pou pisteuei pws einai to kalytero apo ola ta kommata.Den einai teleia, sigoura kai tha symfwnisw.Alla afou o kathe politis, me tin psifo tou exei ti dynami na kathorizei to mellon tou, giati na min to kanei?
@magellan
H xounta ekane erga?San auto tou Polytexneiou?Posa nea paidia skotwthikan?Auta einai ta erga tis xountas?Ta vasanistiria pou ekane i astynomia tote?Poia einai ta erga?H logokrisia mipws?Oi exories?
president
05-11-2003, 20:31
Ela twra,h xounta den ekane tin paraliaki?pou tha kaname emeis kontres twra?
freak brother
05-11-2003, 20:34
nai alla xrwstame pantou kai auto tha fanei se liga xronia.. to thema einai oti h xwra einai poLYYYYYY kalhtera apo prin 10 xronia px... ALLA auto den wfeilete sto pasok alla sta kondylia ths E.E ..
o magellan mallon to pe gia plaka.. alla ontws h xounta ekane polla erga giauto to ellhma tou kratous eixe ftasei se disthewrhta ypsh.
kai auto pou les sentinel:H nd tha ekane polla apo auta?Sas parakalw...Allos psifizei auotn pou tha tou dwsei fragka, allos de thelei na psifisei.Rixnei leuko akyro ktl.MEGA LATHOS
ta erga me dika tous lefta ta kanane?kai giati mega lathos o kathenas einai eleutheros na kanei oti thelei eleutheria exoume :p
rincewind2k
05-11-2003, 21:46
H nd tha ekane polla apo auta?Sas parakalw...
erm, kai pou to kseroume? den nomizw na htan poly pio diaforetika ta pragmata an sthn eksousia eixe gantzwthei tosa xronia h nd anti gia to mpatsok... H monh diafora tha htan oti o kosmos tha hksere ti pshfizei, anti na nomizei oti pshfizei kapoio "sosialistiko" komma (poso anekdoto einai na allhloapokalountai oi pasokoi "syntrofoi"?)
MEGA LATHOS.Gia auto to dikaiwma, ypirxan anthrwpoi sto parelthon oi opoioi agwnistikan, de dianoeitai o Neoellinas na to katapata.PREPEI na psifizei auto pou tha kanei kalo sti xwra.H' toulaxiston auto pou pisteuei pws einai to kalytero apo ola ta kommata.
Alla ayta sou (mas) lene tosa xronia, ayta leme kai emeis...
to oti rixnoume akyro den shmainei oti adiaforoume 'h den exoume boulhsh, einai mia morfh diamartyrias, AN mporeis na to katalabeis ayto, enantia ston tropo pou pshfizoun pleon oi perissoteroi - blepe rousfetia kai "kala eimaste, pou na trexoume" nootropia. ETSI katapata to dikaiwma ths pshfou o neoellhnas
PS - to an telika me to akyro katafernoume kati einai allo thema, lyphro dystyxws...
irreligious
05-11-2003, 22:15
@magellan
H xounta ekane erga?San auto tou Polytexneiou?Posa nea paidia skotwthikan?Auta einai ta erga tis xountas?Ta vasanistiria pou ekane i astynomia tote?Poia einai ta erga?H logokrisia mipws?Oi exories?
xmou...i alitheia einai oti i xounta ekane erga...alla ti na ta kaneis otan p.x. ftiaxnoun dromous kai esy den mporeis na perpatiseis pano opos kai opote theleis?tespa...mavra xronia gia tin ellada kai kalytera na min ta skeftomaste....
hm, paizei kai oute kan akyro.
ti wraia pou tan stis dhmotikes pou araksa A8hna kai phga Candlemass oui oui
Inside Charmer
05-11-2003, 22:28
Εκ πεποιθήσεως άκυρο αφού δεν πιστεύω ιδεολογικά στην έμμεση, αντιπροσωπευόμενη δημοκρατία, ή ορθότερα συγκεκαλλυμένη κομματική νεποτιστική ολιγαρχία του κεφαλαίου.
Μην ρίχνετε λευκό, ενισχύεται τον γαμημένο πρώτο!
The_Painless
05-11-2003, 23:20
Basilh, ekanes or8ografiko kai 8a se malwsw :p
Btw, pote lete na ginoun oi ekloges?
symposium_lexotanil
05-11-2003, 23:23
ego den exo eklogiko vivliario.
thelo na elpizo oti to orthografiko lathos tou inside charmer stin teleutaia tou protasi egine logw viasynis i aproseksias.alla pio poly elpizo na min einai etsi.
Dragonlord
05-11-2003, 23:23
kanonika i guess.aprilh/maio an 8ymamai kala
The Sentinel
05-11-2003, 23:46
Den psifizoume me eklogika vivliaria pleon.Kartoules den exete?
symposium_lexotanil
05-11-2003, 23:57
xm
edo den evgala eklogiko vivliario otan eprepe,perimenes na ksero kai oti de xriazetai tora?
ti einai oi kartes?
san aytes twn xristougennwn k tou pasxa.
mia easter card 8a parw gia to event.
The_Painless
06-11-2003, 00:17
Oute egw 8umamai pws ginetai h diadikasia. Oi prwtes ekloges, stis opoies pshfisa htan oi teleutaies dhmotikes kai *an* 8umamai kala phga me tautothta kai hmoun ok. Basika nai, etsi egine.
Nomizw to argotero pou mporoun na pragmatopoih8oun oi ekloges einai ton prosexh Maio. Oute egw pisteuw oti 8a ginoun nwritera.
The_Painless
06-11-2003, 00:18
hm, paizei kai oute kan akyro.
ti wraia pou tan stis dhmotikes pou araksa A8hna kai phga Candlemass oui oui
:( :( Ti "wraia" pou htan stis dhmotikes pou den prolaba na paw Candlemass parolo pou eixa eisithrio.... Modafakinmposiz :dangry:
atom_smasher
06-11-2003, 00:29
th pshfisw nd.an kataferw na paw ws to xwrio mou ,oute karta kai mlkies exw.vivliario metraei?kai gw sumpathousa ton sunaspismo.lew etsi gia allagh re paidi mou na dw kati se mple sthn e3ousia.na dw poso skata tha ta kanoun autoi.apo tous pasokous xortasame skata!(to mono provlhma mou mallon einai oti isws to ksanaskeftw kai ri3w anapodo stauro anti gi a kanoniko mazi me merika kanthlia.to poianou tha nai to pshfodeltio den tha xei shmasia.)
Vasilias
06-11-2003, 00:58
To astio me olous pou pane na psifisoune PASOK einai oti to psifizoune gia na "min vgei h deksia" (xaxaxa) exei poli plaka auth h apopsi ama ktlvei kaneis ti einai h deksia (ss. ke to Pasok deksia einai) :-))
Amnesiac.
06-11-2003, 01:02
ke to Pasok deksia einai
mas anoikses ta matia.
The_Painless
06-11-2003, 01:04
H Sueddeutsche Zeitung grafei pantws shmera gia thn "aristerh kybernhsh Shmith" lol. Kai se polles alles 3enes efhmerides "aristerous" tous leei.... Mhpws emeis kanoume la8os? :p :p (ennoeitai pws kanw plaka..argh!)
Dragonlord
06-11-2003, 01:16
pio asteia vriskw thn propaganda twn aristerwn oti to pasok einai to idio prama me th nd wste na kerdisoun pshfous.ok 8ewrhtika symfwnw pws kai to pasok pleon einai de3ia,wstoso kai o karatzaferhs de3ia einai.to idio prama 8a einai an vgei to pasok,to idio o karatzaferhs?
Vasilias
06-11-2003, 01:43
Opios leei oti to Pasok einai to idio me tin ND kanei lathos (an ke se polla sindikata psifizoune ta idia). O diaxorismos metaksi twn kommatwn tis aristeras kai meta na les oti oli h deksia einai idia einai telios xazos kata emena. Omws to Pasok einai deksia opote to epixirima "psifizoume pasok gia na min vgei h deksia" einai atopo. Dn eipa oti einai idio to pasok me tin Nd omws, viastikes na me krinis.
oso gia psifous ase to KKE na prizi kai na odeirete gia psifous, kanenas allos dn to kanei (auto enisxiete idietera otan dn simetexeis stis ekloges ;-p)
The Sentinel
06-11-2003, 01:45
Ntax o kathenas exei ti gnwmi tou.Egw den pisteuw oti to pasok einai dexia.-
Martyan_Druyd
06-11-2003, 01:46
pshfizw SYN..alla sta @@@ sas... an vgei pali to pasok elpizw na mhn ksanarxisoun ta idia pali oi kathe klapsomounhdes dhmosioi ypallhloi kai oi adikhmenoi tou kwlou....(pou 20 xronia pasok pshfizoun..)..kala h N.D mafton ton boulouko gia proedro pou vrhke etoimh thn periousia tou theiou tou, na dw pote tha vgei...alla kai ti tha kanei me ta skata pou tha paralavei... lete na ta kanei skatotera?(me tetia stoixeia typou karatzaferh einai gia klammata ki aftoi...)....to xeirotero einai oti pada vgenoun sthn exousia kai genika sthn politikh atoma pou synexizoun th "dynasteia"ths oikogeneias tous sto xwro..as paroun to poulo epitelous...... kala kainouries idees na ypothesw den yparxoun safth th gamwxwra ..poso mallon nea proswpa me kana sovaro orama ..... den pshfizw oute akyro gia na afhsw ton kathe kopano neoellhna na pshfisei gia thn parth mou..oute lefko gia na vgoun oi idioi kai oi idioi eksyxronistes pou kathdhsan diaplekomenoi h oi sydhrhtikoi ths kakias wras....
rincewind2k
06-11-2003, 02:16
esy kai osoi nomizete oti to pasok den einai deksia deite ligo thn genikoterh politikh tou ta teleytaia (arketa) xronia kai tha katalabete. o antreas pethane, ksypnhste epitelous.
kai parepiptontws, o karatzaferhs einai AKROdeksios kai DEN einai sth ND pleon (bebaia point taken giati tosoi kai tosoi akrodeksioi einai akoma sth ND)
A, kai osoi perimenete na bgei allo komma gia na deite asprh mera, allakste pleyro, stous idious tha logodotoun kai oi epomenoi
Oi eklogikes kartes pou vghkan de xreiazontai gia na pshfiseis. Einai kyriws gia na 3ereis pou 8a pshfiseis giati ta eklogika kentra exoun alla3ei. Logika pshfizeis opou kai oi goneis sou. Auto pou xreiazetai einai tautothta, oute eklogiko vivliario oute tipota.
Mou eipan oti oi ekloges 8a ginoun 5 Ma'i'ou.
Epishs sxetika me to oti prepei na pshfizeis kapoio syndyasmo kai na mh rixneis leuko 'h akyro giati kapoioi polemhsan gia to dikaiwma pshfou klp (sorry alla variemai na paw pisw na to kanw quote): kai to na rixneis leuko 'h akyro epilogh einai kai shmainei ki auto mia sygkekrimenh topo8ethsh (ektos apo autous pou rixnoun akyro giati evalan kata la8os parapanw staurous 'h anoi3e to stilo kai moutzourwse to pshfodeltio :p )
Proswpika vriskw aparadekto auto pou kanoun stis HPA, pou oi misoi den patane na pshfisoun epeidh exoun thn epilogh na mhn to kanoun. Ekei einai pou 8a symfwnhsw me ta parapanw peri dikaiwmatos kai ypoxrewshs symmetoxhs sths ekloges.
enitharmon
06-11-2003, 02:21
to post mou pou pige???
Amnesiac.
06-11-2003, 02:24
elpizw na min yponoeis oti to esvise kapoios....
sdsadfdsfdsf
Vasilias
06-11-2003, 02:28
na kanw mia erwtisi stin opia dn tha topothetithw katholu... ti noima vriskete stis ekloges?
Amnesiac.
06-11-2003, 02:30
oi ekloges = i kata taktin imeran askisis ypo twn politwn tou dikaiwmatos tis dia psifou anadeiksews antiproswpwn twn.
Vasilias
06-11-2003, 02:32
Skata allaksess tin apantisi sou ke dn kserw pws na svisw to teleuteo post...
enitharmon
06-11-2003, 02:41
diladi King, de symfwneis me tis ekloges? Na exoume ena mpastaka panw apo to kefali mas kai na mas prizei kanontas o,ti malakia thelei? Kai auton ton prwto poios tha ton ekleksei?
Gnwmi mou einai pws to pio apodotiko politeuma gia tin proodo enos kratous einai i to diktatoriko i mia vasileia, genika ena politeuma sto opoio o kathe asxetos agrammatos kai kateuthinomenos tileorasakias de tha exei dikaiwma na apofasizei gia to mellon... (giati apla einai ilithios)... omws prwton o "despotis" autos tha einai episis me 98% pithanotita ilithios kai tha kanei kataxrisi tis eksousias tou (koinws sta paparia tou ti tha apoginei o laos) kai kata deuteron, ena tetoio politeuma katapataei ta dikaiwmata twn ilithiwn na ekfrazontai eleuthera, opote einai mi apodekto.... ektos tou oti ena "kalo" olokliwtiko kathestws einai outopiko (toso oso kai i pagkosmia eirini)
opote to epomeno kalytero kai dikaiotero politeuma einai to dimokratiko. den einai kai poly leitourgiko, alla einai toulaxiston dikaio. Opote nai, kala kanoun kai yparxoun ekloges.
Vasilias
06-11-2003, 02:44
oxi, eimai tis apopsis oti oi ekloges dn prokite na allaksoune tpt, yparxi ke pio amesi dimokratia apo to na theorise anikanos na apofasisis gia ton eauto sou ke gia tous allous alla arketa ikanos na epileksis tous "ekprosopous sou" kseris.
enitharmon
06-11-2003, 02:45
ti protineis diladi?
Vasilias
06-11-2003, 02:46
sosialismo... ta idia tha leme? ;p
Dystyxws oso megalyteros o ari8mos twn politwn toso dyskoloterh h efarmogh ths "ameshs dhmokratias", toulaxiston kata ta protypa ths arxaias A8hnas.
enitharmon
06-11-2003, 02:48
kala, auto to iksera, auto pou akoma den exw katalavei (syggnwmi an to exeis ksanapei) einai pws akrivws mporei na efarmostei o sosialismos kata ti gnwmi sou.
enitharmon
06-11-2003, 02:51
stin arxaia Athina dikaiwma psifou eixan mono oi "katharoi" Athinaioi polites.. oute oi douloi, oute oi perioikoi, oute autoi pou eixan ana gonio mi Athinaio... den kserw poso dimokratiko itan auto...
an to pame etsi, proteinw (simera) ma psifizoun mono oi "katharoi" Ellines, kai mono osoi exoun kanei anwtates spoudes. an mono autoi eixan dikaiwma na apofasizoun, tote i "Dimokratia" kata ta protypa tis arxaias Athinas tha itan pio efikti.
Dragonlord
06-11-2003, 03:44
h amesh dhmokratia 8a katalh3ei aplws se oxlokratia
ki egw authn protimousa paliotera alla oso vlepw th vlakeia tou kosmou toso katalavainw giati den prepei na efarmostei
Dragonlord
06-11-2003, 03:49
kai to na rixneis leuko 'h akyro epilogh einai kai shmainei ki auto mia sygkekrimenh topo8ethsh (ektos apo autous pou rixnoun akyro giati evalan kata la8os parapanw staurous 'h anoi3e to stilo kai moutzourwse to pshfodeltio :p )
Proswpika vriskw aparadekto auto pou kanoun stis HPA, pou oi misoi den patane na pshfisoun epeidh exoun thn epilogh na mhn to kanoun. Ekei einai pou 8a symfwnhsw me ta parapanw peri dikaiwmatos kai ypoxrewshs symmetoxhs sths ekloges.
ki auto mia sygkekrimenh topo8ethsh einai.einai h topo8ethsh pou leei "einai toso geloies oi ekloges pleon,afou mporei na vgei mono opoios exei arketa lefta gia diafhmistikes kampanies (h an poulhsei ton kwlo tou stis polye8nikes gia na tou ta dwsoun) pou de goustarw na xasw oute mish wra apo th zwh mou gia na koroideuw ton eauto mou oti kati ekana".an den yphrxan (8ewrhtika) kyrwseis ki egw mallon auto 8a ekana.hate me
symposium_lexotanil
06-11-2003, 04:56
den antexo na diavazo alles tragikotites.
leo na sviso olo to thread
pros olous tous upostiriktes Pasok:
exete mpei se kanena nosokomeio ta teleutaia 20 xronia? oloi sta ratza kai fakelakia dinoun kai pernoun. Kaleis asthenoforo kai erxetai meta apo wres. proseksate posoi anthrwpoi skotwnontai apo kakotexnies dromwn (gefura rosiniol ktl)? olo uposxeseis kai de ginetai oute ena ergo, akoma etsi einai. H Athina plhmurise 3 fores se ena xrono apo kati psilobroxia, xathikan poses perousies. Sta nhsia kai apomakrusmenes perioxes den yparxei oute enas giatros.
Ayta kai alla xilia duo, exoun kseftulistei ta panta kai tosa xronia den exei ginei TIPOTA. Mia zwh sth kseftula
psifiste pasok
tha pame kala
president
06-11-2003, 07:18
den antexo na diavazo alles tragikotites.
leo na sviso olo to thread Ena sovaro thread eipa na kanw kai konteuei na ginei emfylios edw mesa:dindiffer
ego tha tous psifiso olous
h amesh dhmokratia tha mporouse aneta na efoarmostei meso ton mhxanhmaton tou opap
panousis rules
leventi
psifiste ton ki eseis, kalos einai
Amnesiac.
06-11-2003, 15:12
pros olous tous upostiriktes Pasok:
exete mpei se kanena nosokomeio ta teleutaia 20 xronia? oloi sta ratza kai fakelakia dinoun kai pernoun. Kaleis asthenoforo kai erxetai meta apo wres. proseksate posoi anthrwpoi skotwnontai apo kakotexnies dromwn (gefura rosiniol ktl)? olo uposxeseis kai de ginetai oute ena ergo, akoma etsi einai. H Athina plhmurise 3 fores se ena xrono apo kati psilobroxia, xathikan poses perousies. Sta nhsia kai apomakrusmenes perioxes den yparxei oute enas giatros.
Ayta kai alla xilia duo, exoun kseftulistei ta panta kai tosa xronia den exei ginei TIPOTA. Mia zwh sth kseftula
psifiste pasok
tha pame kala
yours,
Aris Spiliotopoulos
Dragonlord
06-11-2003, 15:20
lol
re poison den eipe kaneis pws to pasok einai gamw tis kyvernhseis
apo thn allh to na les oti den exei ginei tipota tipota einai teleiws akyro
sure,8a eprepe na eixan ginei polla perissotera
alla proswpika de me exei peisei kanena allo komma pws einai arketa sovaro gia na ta kanei,mallon to anti8eto
Magellan
06-11-2003, 17:22
xmou...i alitheia einai oti i xounta ekane erga...alla ti na ta kaneis otan p.x. ftiaxnoun dromous kai esy den mporeis na perpatiseis pano opos kai opote theleis?tespa...mavra xronia gia tin ellada kai kalytera na min ta skeftomaste....
auto akribws i8ela na pw kai gw.....
freak brother
06-11-2003, 17:38
mporei pantws to pasok sthn shmerinh morfh tou na mhn einai aristera.. alla kaneis den mporei na amfisvitisei oti melh tou pak kai tou metepeita pasok eixan antidiktaktoriko agwna h htan melh tou e.a.m ... klp se antithesh me tous neodhmokrates pou akoma pistevoun oti o velouxiwths htan tromokraths pou skotone filisixous polites
Otan milhsa gia to systhma ths arxaias A8hnas safws kai den ennoousa to poioi exoun dikaiwma na pshfizoun (e3allou ws gynaika de me symferei giati oute oi gynaikes pshfizan). Anaferomoun sth dia vohs pshfo kai th symmetoxh olwn twn politwn stis apofaseis apeu8eias kai oxi di'antiproswpou.
enitharmon
06-11-2003, 20:54
tha mporousan na ginontai perissotera dimopsifismata, einai gegonos... isws oxi gia psilou pidima (kai sigoura oxi gia katanties opws me tis tautotites), alla gia to an i xwra prepei na mpei stin E.E. px, tha eprepe isws na exei ginei...
Inside Charmer
06-11-2003, 21:02
Συγγνώμη για το διαλαθόν ορθογραφικό ολίσθημα,το είχα δει πριν κάνω submit και νόμιζα ότι το διόρθωσα...anyway.!
Tα κόμματα, όλα τα κόμματα, δεν έχουν την παραμικρή εξάρτηση από τον ψηφοφόρο. Εξυπηρετούν ίδια συμφέροντα, πάρτε το χαμπάρι και μην δίνετε δύναμη και εξουσία στα βουλευτάκια. Δεν πιστεύωούτε στην έννοια του κράτους, αλλά είμαι υπερ μιας μικροκοσμικής ομοσπονδιώσεως του τμηματικού πληθυσμού.
Είναι καθαρά θέμα λογικής, απλά σκεφτείτε...
Carcass_
06-11-2003, 21:15
Xmmm...gamwto , oloi milhsan kai eipan tis apopseis tous kai egw den exw na pw tpt giati ta eipan alloi... eiste malakes wres wres, den skefteste kai tous allous...
Enitharmon, ekshghse ligo ti ennoeis me to " hlithioi kathisterhmenoi thleorasakhdes " kai "dikaiwma pshfou " giati den katalava akrivws ti thes na peis se auto to shmeio tou prohgoumenou posts sou, selida 6 h 5 nomizw.
Carcass_
06-11-2003, 21:21
Kai kati gia thn aristera:
H aristera pisteuw oti shmera exie to ekseis provlhma... einai apisteuta proskolhmenh sto parelthon kai sunama DEN PEITHEI ton kosmo. Kai den ton peithei giati arketoi aristeroi shmera einai kollhmenoi ( kai oi upoloipoi aristeroi exoun xathei kapou sto Pasok ). Mou thn dinei otan akouw arketous aristerous na lene : E , fusika h deksia kai to pasok tha vgenoun mia zwh , giati exoun ta mesa...PIA MESA RE MALAKA MOUXLA ??? Krima, giati eimai aristeros alla par'ola auta oi perissoteroi "suntrofoi" shmera me ahdiazoun...h idia ksulinh glwssa...oi idies malakies...oi idies dikaiologies gia to tomari mas...
Kai kati allo, oson afora ton Vasilia ( kwstaki, hmera ;p ) . Otan mpeis IRC thumise mou na sou pw gia to thema " MME - aristera " pou eixame piasei tis proalles kai thn apopsh twn dikwn mou ;p
sxetika me to "Aris Spiliotopoulos" gia na mh ginontai preksigiseis, den upostirizw ND, oute kanw propaganda. Apla exw varethei auth th katastash ths katantias na eimaste tritokosmikoi kai na gelane oloi mazi mas.
Ki an to pasok exei kanei 5 pramata enw eprepe na kanei alla 9995 den tha poume kai euxaristw. Alla kai h ND na bgei ta idia tha ginontai. Yparxoun kai kapoioi alloi ston politiko xwro pou mporoun na feroun kati swsto, koitakste ligo kalutera
Magellan
06-11-2003, 22:32
mporei pantws to pasok sthn shmerinh morfh tou na mhn einai aristera.. alla kaneis den mporei na amfisvitisei oti melh tou pak kai tou metepeita pasok eixan antidiktaktoriko agwna h htan melh tou e.a.m ... klp se antithesh me tous neodhmokrates pou akoma pistevoun oti o velouxiwths htan tromokraths pou skotone filisixous polites
mono pou auta ta stelexi tou pasok simera exoun biles kai politelestata autokinita pou otan kalountai na ta dikaiologisoun to mono pou kanoun einai na anatrexoun sto .....agwnistiko parel8on tous.......les kai auto anairei tis kompines pou ekana gia na ta apoktisoun
Vasilias
06-11-2003, 23:16
Kostadi: Gia tin sigkekrimeni diki eixes dikio pantos(asxeto), tha ta poume sto irc, 'h apo konta, katevenw athina tin kiriaki. Dn pavi natane stimeni omws, anyways dn exei noima na ta sizitisoume edw.
Na pw kati pou an ke to anefera pio prin tha ithela na ime ligo pio sigkekrimenos. To na les oti ta kommata tis aristera kanoun "propaganda" gia psifous, einai atopo giati merika kommata dn katevenoun stis ekloges, enw alla katevenoun me sindiasmo alla OXI ola ta melh tous. Ta kommata pou dn katevenoun stis ekloges ama dn kanw lathos einai OLOS o official stalinikos xwros (gnostos san ML), kai ta misa trotskistika kommata. Ta alla misa katevenoune me sindiasmous (px. MEtopo Rizospastikis Aristeras dld MERA simetexoune NAR kai EEK). Opote einai praktika atopo na les oti kinigane psifous... sto kato kato deite ta EAAK kai ta ML pws simperiferonte stis panepistimiakes ekloges, 2-3 anakinosis ke auto htane. Oute kan oloi apo tous simetexontes se autes tis parataksis dn mpenoune sta psifodeltia tis parataksis tous (twra pou to skeutome dn einai kai poli thetiko auto lol).
Oso gia tin proskolisi sto parelthon kostadi staksanapa, ama dn kathese na diavazis gia to parelthon tis ESSD, pws allios mporis na apofigis ta lathi tis? Episis pali sou eixa pei gia tin ananeosi ke to vima mprosta tis aristeras (simetoxi tis Protovoulias agwna sto ergatiko kinima genikotera, anadimiourgia 4hs diethnous klp.), oti proxoraei skata to kserw (H 4h diethnis oxi, des Argentini)
symposium_lexotanil
07-11-2003, 00:34
anatrixiazo kai mono stin idea oti yparxei estw kai i elaxisti pithanotita na ta lene sovara kai na ta pisteuoun auta.
Elfstone
07-11-2003, 01:13
http://www.ydrohoos.gr/parthron.htm
Mia selida me merika arthra sxetika me to thema.
Amnesiac.
07-11-2003, 01:26
kserw mia kalyteri :
http://www.worldsex.com
kai nai, einai sxetiki me to thema.
Carcass_
08-11-2003, 16:26
Giati einai sxetikh me to thema ?
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