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Dragonlord
04-11-2003, 19:22
In an interview with Electricbasement.com, QUEENSRYCHE vocalist Geoff Tate talked about revisiting the acclaimed 1988 album "Operation: Mindcrime", which dealt with political schemes. "I would especially love to work again with that album, but I think we would do it quite a bit differently this time than we did it then." Asked to offer details, he kept most of it secret but offered a general idea, "Well, I don't really want to expand on that because there is a definite possibility that we are going to do it. It would have to be a different presentation though based upon what has transpired over the last 12 to 15 years. Maybe we could look at things a little more objectively. I wouldn't want to make the same album again. It's just much different writing at this point than it was then considering that when 'Mindcrime' was written that I was probably in my early thirties. At that point, I was much more interested in politics than I am now. Right now, I'm more interested in the social evolution in people. Politics is now the ultimate compromise business. It's not about truth, and it's not the about doing what's right. It's all just about winning. It's more of a sports team mentality model. I choose not to play that game in my life anymore. So, I guess what I'm saying is that 'Operation: Mindcrime' was more of a black-and-white approach to things while 'Tribe' is more interested, not in politics or the government, but in just winning and finding what's right. The songs on this record attempt to portray the real thing about America which is that we are an enormous group of people with completely different outlooks and mindsets and backgrounds. We're culturally different, intellectually different but somehow we manage to make it work in this country. I'm not so certain that all of us had a hand in making it all work though. I think some people exist and stay here primarily because it's all they know. I think there's definitely a select group of people who call the shots and make all the rules and enforce them and push us in the direction we're going. Once we're all aware of that and accept that that is a definitely a possibility, maybe we'll be a little happier because we'll understand how the system works. That may be the biggest problem with this country too-we don't know how it all works. We're illiterate and watching 'Jerry Springer'… what's that do for ya?"

oloklhrh h synenteu3h: http://www.electricbasement.com/interview_queensryche_november2003.htm

Buddy Lackey
04-11-2003, 20:22
ntemi sinaisthimata
elpides gia dimiourgia kati magikou
kai apo tin alli fovos gia kai mi antaksio tou onomatos "Operation Mindcrime"
afto pou eixe akoustei palia itan oxi ena mindcrime revisited, alla isws i sinexeia tou, se ena neo concept album

rockavlon
04-11-2003, 20:38
hm . min to gamhsoun fobamai - thelei apisteuth empneush gia na to akoumphsoun kai teleutaia ta deigmata grafhs itan etsi ki etsi...

The_Painless
04-11-2003, 20:40
ntemi sinaisthimata
kai apo tin alli fovos gia kai mi antaksio tou onomatos "Operation Mindcrime"

Ti einai auta twra? :dangry:
De me empneei. Na mhn to kanoyn :dblush:

The Butcher
04-11-2003, 21:06
oute egw tha ithela na akousw kati tetoio. perissotero endiaferon tha eixe i alli idea peri neou concept/ synexisis tou mindcrime/ whatever...

The_Emperor
04-11-2003, 21:22
ksanazetsameno faghto mou fainetai...latreyo th mpanta alla theoro eleipsh empneyshs to na mhn mporeis na pas parapera kai na kaneis album pou na mporoyn na antlhsoun empneysh apo nees katastaseis
mallon eimai poly aysthros alla nomizo oti oi ryche xreiazontai pio entona erethismata apo thn aneth zoh pou exoun twra gia na dhmioyrghsoun ksana mousikh me to pathos ton palaioteron album toys. Bebaia akomh kai sto neo album yparxoun tetoia deigmata...alla mono deigmata...
me tetoies mpantes den mporeis na symbibasteis me tipota ligotero apo to teleio

Kveldssanger
04-11-2003, 21:34
Kai ego pisteyo pos h epistrofi sto parelthon dyskola exei kala apotelesmata... Oi epoxes allazoun kai, eidika otan exeis na kaneis me kati pou aggizei to teleio, oi pithanotites na piaseis tin idia apodosi einai mikres... Poso mallon otan de vriskesai kai stin kalyteri katastasi... Alla opos panta, o xronos tha deixei...

Buddy Lackey
04-11-2003, 21:45
egw pistevw oti oi Queensryche mporoun na siglonisoun akoma, kai to "Tribe" emena marese (para poli)
but whooo am i to fly so hiiigh

The_Emperor
04-11-2003, 22:06
ki emena mou arese
exei mesa kommatia pou kinountai se poly ypsilo epipedo
alla einai eykolo na bgei ksana h paranoia toy operation h toy rage? H mhpws to synaisthima toy promised land...prepei na eisai kapws gia na grapseis tetoio yliko...den einai piano thn kithara kai leo : gia na doume ti riff tha bgaloume shmera...

isos kanw lathos alla ego stathera pisteyo oti ta pio entona arnhtika synaisthimata einai h megalyterh empneysh gia enan kallitexnh....

Buddy Lackey
04-11-2003, 22:11
vasika den eixane kai idiaitera arnitika sinaisthimata otan grafane to mindcrime px , egw exw mia paromoia apopsi oson afora ton pono (to idio pragma as poume dld).
alla apla den ginetai na ksanagrapsoun analoga dimiourgimata (opws den ginetai oi rush na vgaloun permanent waves, oi manowar into glory ride, oi maiden, 7th son klp)

rincewind2k
04-11-2003, 22:18
xm den einai mono ayto, einai oti to mindcrime thewreitai apiasto aristourgima edw kai tosa xronia, *den yparxei* periptwsh h nea version na to "ftasei", oxi giati stadar tha einai xeirotero - mporei na einai kai kalytero - , apla kai mono giati tha einai diaforetiko...

kai afou kai to concept tha diaforopoihthei, ap'oti fainetai, kalytera na ekanan allo album, pou na mhn exei th "retsinia" oti prokeitai gia mindcrime:reloaded kai na mhn einai etsi "katadikasmeno" na apotyxei

apo thn allh, tha htan gamato na grapsoun st'arxidia tous ola osa egrapsa, pou pithanotata tha einai h epikratousa apopsh stous "metallades", kai na kanoun o,ti kavlwsoun, opws exw thn entipwsh oti kanoun ta teleytaia xronia - kai gi ayto tous ektimw

we'll see

The_Emperor
04-11-2003, 22:22
den ksero an alitheuoun ayta pou exo diabasei oti o tate sto operation eixe mpei toso sto petsi toy roloy pou den miliotan kai eixe ftasei sta oria ths katathlipshs
mporei na einai kai yperboles
epishs oloi kseroume gia tis apoleies pou eixan oloi toys prin to promised
ean dexthoume oti o kallitexnhs prepei na einai ek fyseos enas antrhopos pou dexetai entona to kathe erethisma logika ayta bgainoun kai sto apotelesma ths ekfrashs toy...

Buddy Lackey
04-11-2003, 22:24
den eixe ftasei sta oria tis katathlipsis, alla kati pio ipervoliko-xreiastike na nosileftei se psixiatriki kliniki gia kapoio diastima gia na kseperasei tin oli fash.

After Dark
04-11-2003, 23:22
Prwton ena Mindcrime den epanalmvanetai kai deyteron epeidh synthetika den einai kai tooooooooooso high,kalytera na perimenoun merika xronakia akoma,giati ena tetoio mnhmeio thelei poly prosoxh gia na to proseggiseis.

Ethir
05-11-2003, 02:02
Paidia as eimaste realistes...tetia albums vgainoun mia fora. Tipota den mporei na einai to idio i an sinexistei. To vrisko ekseretika diskolo na kanoun kati antaksio. Akomi kai na vgaloun kati kalo apo tin stigmi pou tha einai se sigrisi me to Mindcrime tha xathei ston fonto tou...
Anyway elpizo toulaxiston na exoun kapia kali empnefsi kai na me diapsefsoun alla to vrisko para ma para poli xlomo.

Elfstone
05-11-2003, 04:11
Exoun perasei 15 xronia apto Operation to opoio exei pleon mythikes diastaseis kai akoma kai to pio asxeto concept album na vgaloun oi Queensryche tha sygrithei anapofeukta me to O:M. Mousika, paroti to "Tribe" mou arese poly, den exw megales prosdokies apo ena neo concept twn Queensryche, stixourgika omws perimenw apotelesmata isws kai akoma kalytera. Kai mono h proseggish ths istorias tou O:M mesa apo ena pio filosofiko anti gia politiko prisma (opws yponnoei o Tate sth synenteuksh) sigoura aksizei ton kopo. Kati tetoio sigoura de mporw na to thewrisw pisogyrisma giati to thema einai panta epikairo kai mporei kaneis na to analysei apo polles pleures.

WoTaN
05-11-2003, 16:03
Egw pou pisteyw oti oi ryche einai teleiwmeno xarti ti na kanw? :P

Buddy Lackey
05-11-2003, 16:05
na skefteis oti oso teleiomeno xarti einai oi ryche (me tin logiki sou), allo toso einai kai oi manowar.
gia mena den einai kaneis tous kammeno xarti vevaiws vevaiws

blackbird
05-11-2003, 16:53
To vasiko tha einai na epistrepsei mia kai kali o De Garmo sti banda yiati me ellipi synthesi einai vevaio oti de tha mporesoun (isws de tha tolmisoun) na praxoun kati tetoio.Oi ryche ehoun tis dinatotites dinoun akoma polly kala live,i teleutaia tous douleia itan polli kali par'olo pou logw tis merikis epistrofis tou De Garmo tin fantazoumoun kalyteri kai twra menei na perimenoume......

Solo Carriera
05-11-2003, 17:00
vareto album

symposium_lexotanil
05-11-2003, 22:05
to mindcrime einai to pio yperektimimeno album stin istoria tis mousikis

Ethir
06-11-2003, 01:06
Ti eipe re o ierosilos...gia afto pou eipes otan loipon gino diasimos den tha sou doso aftografo.

atom_smasher
06-11-2003, 03:41
loipon.stixourgika tha xei endiaferon kai isws apodeixtei isa3io.mousika kai stis kardies twn opadwn tous den 3erw ti apotelesmata tha xei.protimw thn sunexish tou concept me part 2.to tribe se stigmes htan polu kalo.

symposium_lexotanil
06-11-2003, 04:05
kala ego pa nakouso sacramentum
kante douleia sas

daydreamer
07-11-2003, 03:15
Πάντως είναι άκρως ενδιαφέρουσα ιδέα!!
Πιστεύω πως θα τα καταφέρουν...