periergo

[symposium_lexotanil]

diavazontas to demons and wizards thread stathika se mia frasi pou grapse o NoGoDum911. paratheto:


Oloi oi diskoi tou sympantos exoun ENA kalo kommati 'h kai DYO


apisteuta sofi kouventa,i opoia perase aparatiriti kai asxoliasti.molis to eida grammeno,skeftika oti standar den exo akousei pote kapoio album pou na min eixe estw ena tragoudi,to opoio to vrika KALO.

an de sas fainetai ilithio/autonoito/kati_allo_apaksiotiko sxoliaste

[S-11]

mpa olo kai kapoio album 8a yparxei
kai sth telikh an to doume me thn optikh gwnia "mousiko eidos pou me ahdiazei" amesws brhskeis ekei ena soro album pou de 8a exoun oute ena kommati pou 8a to 8ewREIS kalo
paradeigmata apo ton sklhro hxo twra de mou rxontai logo insomnia
twra pou to psiloskefthka ena group me ena s/t nomizw album gates of the ishtar black or smth htan a8lio se ola tou ta deuterolepta ka isigoura apo tetoia paradeigmata aberta me ligo psaksimo.
alla panta paizei to 8ema gousto e

[XD]

. . . basika otan grafei "ena/dio kala kommatia" tha to erminefsw
ws "TOULAXISTON ena/dio aksiopreph kommatia" h enalaxtika :
"TOULAXISTON ena/dio kommatia me kapoio shmeio pou mou arese
eite briskwntas to endiaferon texnikws, eite ebixo" . . . ti shmainei afto :
akomh kai na mhn sou aresei to eidos tou "group" tou opoio to "album"
tha akouseis, toulaxiston ena me dio kommatia tha anagnwriseis pws
exoun "kati" eite afto einai mia wraia/idieterh melwdia, eite kana periergo
girisma sta "drums", kamia trelitsa/kablitsa sth kithara . . . genika *kati*.
Kati pou isws akomh gi'afto kai mono na se porwnei oloklhro to kommati.
P.x. : mou rxetai ena kommati ksekarfwto sto mialo apo "Callenish Circle"
pou genika tous briksw baretous kai anempnefstous ws sinolo, alla se ena
kommati me eixe porwsei ena shmeio liga defterolepta me ena "riffaki" na
paizetai mono me mpaso kai na akoulouthoun "groovata" ta "drums" . . .
. . . sthn arxh akouga to kommati mono gi'afto to shmeio, meta arxise na
mou aresei sxetika kai to ipoloipo kai sth sinexeia brika tetoia shmeia kai
se alla kommatia tous . . . ntaks, edw to trabiksa to thema, alla akomh kai
sthn periptwsh ---> "album" pou den to goustara ntip, telika brhka "estw
ena" shmeio na mou aresei, afto egine "ena kommati" kai ou to kathekshs.
Apo kei kai pera, genika einai analoga kai me ton xarakthra tou kathenos.
Prepei na eisai kai kapws anixtomialos, na xeis kai kapoies mousikes kai
oxi mono gnwseis, na mhn tromperneis aenaon kai genika na exeis kapoio
koiros . . . p.x. bale "Marduk" ston "x" KOLLHMENO "TRUE" HEAVYMETALA.
Tha sou pei "GIATOMPOUTSO" me thn mia . . . h fash omws einai pws ama
paiksw sthn kithara ston allon merika "rifakia" apo "Marduk" me katharo
sxetika hxo, paizei kai na goustarei trela . . . alla opws kai na 'xei, otan
tous akousei den prokeitai na paradextei pws isws na tou aresei kai kati
poli apla logw ths eleipshs kapoiwn xarakthristikwn pou anaferw parapanw
. . . genika afto to thema sikwnei poli analish pou den eimai prothimos na
kanw . . . SAFWS, YPARXOUN KAI PERIPTWSEIS KAPOIOS NA BREI KATI
TELEIWS GIATOMPEOS KABALA, an kai proswpika den mou exei simbei
afto. Akomh kai klarina na akousw pou ta misw h nisiwtika h otidhpote
malakia iparxei sto kosmo, akomh kai thn brwmo"noise" kai oti pipa
"drone" iparxei, olo kai kati 'kalo/thetiko" tha brw . . . "ok", mporei
na mhn einai oloklhro kommati, mporei na einai merika defterolepta
mono, alla kati teleiws GTP den exw brei . . . genika paizei kai to poso
thelish exei o kathenas kai to pou periorizontai ta "oria" tou an iparxoun.
Apo kei kai pera einai kai alla stoixeia . . . px enw sixainomai to "Heavy"
sth mpleiopsifia tou, p.x. tous "Helloween" tous apexthanomai, se kommati
opws to "a tale that wasn't right" ANATRIXIAZW & paradexomai . . . ntaks,
h p.x. enas pou akouei "heavy" paizei na goustarei kai tipota apo "Arch
Enemy", h kapoios pou akouei "atmosfairikila" na goustarei kana hremo
"Fates Warning", h kapoios pou akouei "pop" na akousei kai kamia "metal"
mpalanta h kana "Anathema" ki ets' . . . genika, analoga ti stoixeia sindiaz
to "group", poso gnwsto einai, se ti koino apefthinetai kai an iparxoyn kai
perithoria gia akroates diaforetikwn akousmatwn kai alla paromoia ktl . . .
Kai ntaks, isws kapote na akousw kati kai na to krinw ws "TELEIWS GTP",
alla "ok" afto tha metafrazetai sto 1% ap'osa exw akousei, opote den
mporw na pw pws einai idietera shmantiko pososto . . . kai opws panta,
pera ap'oti anefera parapanw, kapou bazoume ena "gousto moy / goustou
sou" wste na liksoun "giatompoutso" diafwnies giati den aksizei n' asxolise.

EDIT : KAI OXI, DEN TO BRISKW KATHOLOU PERIERGO. GIA MENA OXI.
GIA ALLOUS ME PAROPIDES H GENIKA ALLO XARAKTHRA ISWS KAI NA
NAI. EILIKRINA STHN KARAPOYTSARA MOU . . . AFTOI EINAI OI XAMENOI.

EDIT : OUGK . . . malakia . . . twra poy to skeftomai, ta perissotera apo
afta poy DEN akouw, ta thewrw giatompoutso sthn iparxousa tous morfh
kai tha mou arezan meta apo kapoies h polles allages . . . opote oysiastika
apo thn mia den metraei afto pou anefera parapanw -> peri "Marduk", peri
nhsiwtika k.t.l. alla apo thn allh -> polles fores o xarakthrismos "GTP" mou
fenetai adikos . . . sineto einai na anagnwrizoume h na diefkrinoume kapia
pragmata akomh ki an h sinolikh mas entipwsh einai arnhtikh . . . ougk . . .

EDIT : Isws aplws na "dikaiologw" dhmiourgies toumpoutsou, poli apla
giati mou fenetai malakia / periergo kapoios na exei dhmiourghsei kati
teleiws giatompoutso . . . kai malista enw ipotithetai pws otan dhmiourgeis
tha baleis mpoliko meraki/empnefsh gia na to epitixeis kai isws tha ftaseis
ton eafto sou sta oria . . . dhladh ama panw se kalitexniko embrasmo eisai
giatompoutso, tote thmpoutsises teleiws . . . apo thn allh, paizoun rolo kai
oi empiries tou kathenos ki apo poia optikh tha deis to olo poliploko thema

EDIT : otinanai . . .

[BLiTzER]

Iced earth.

[Kingdom Gone]

. . . genika afto to thema sikwnei poli analish pou den eimai prothimos na
kanw . . .

παλι καλα, που να 'χες δηλαδη

[DarkRaven_]

Ιδού (http://www.electricrequiem.com/viewtopic.php?t=8628) ένα αντιπαράδειγμα... :lol:

[Ghoul]

[zER]Iced earth.

[christian_nyquist]

αλανια οντως ο symposium_lexotanil εκανε γαμω τις παρατηρησεις.... hail κ πολυ σοφο οντως :worship:

[Stormrider]

[zER]Iced earth.
:moutza:

[V0lcaN0]

Yparxoun sygkrothmata me albums apo ta opoia de mou aresei oute nota. Ayto de shmainei bebaia oti genika den exoun thn axia tous. Apla to na breis ena h dyo kommatia pou na sou aresoun se ena album pou de sou aresei den einai aparaithta sigouro. To na mh briskeis bebaia kommatia na sou aresoun se ena album mpantas pou sou arese, h na briskeis estw ena h dyo, einai endeiktiko ths poreias pou phre h mpanta antitheta apo ta gousta sou, gia na mhn pw katiousas kai fanw apolytos. Paradeigmata de lew gia na mh stathei kaneis ekei.

Synepws oxi, den einai axiwma oti yparxoun se ola ta album ena h dyo kala kommatia.

Kai sxetika asxeto. Mpantes pou grafoun kommatia kai oxi albums einai katadikasmenes sto na prosferoun ena kalo prosthetiko akousma kai tpt allo.

[VirusXI]

Υπάρχουν αρκετά albums που 'ναι μαλακιάρες απ'την αρχή ως το τέλος.
Επίσης σε ένα κακό album αν υπάρχει ένα μέτριο κομμάτι, ή μια καλή ιδέα σε ένα και μοναδικό σημείο, θα σου φανεί πολύ καλύτερο απ'ότι είναι. Αν έχεις καταφέρει να ακούσεις ως εκεί ε heaheh

[NoGoDum911]

Isws se kati tetoia album pou vasilevei h metriothta 'h kai h athliothta estw kai mia stigmh analamphs na se kanei na thewreis ena tragoudi kalo pou se alles periptwseis isws pernouse aparathrhto. Isws kai pali se ena album enos sygkekrimenou yfous pou miseis 'h den sou aresei ena 'h dyo kommatia na einai alliws eite tyxaia (logw empnefshs) eite eskemmena (px se group pou theloun na allaksoun yfos alla petane kai ena kommataki apo to parelthon tous gia ton opoio logo) opote na sou aresei kai syneidhta. Twra an tha vriskeis ena oloklhro disko kako kai metrio tote pithanotata se eknevrizei to yfos tou diskou kai oxi h mousikh.

[Deggial]

apisteuta sofi kouventa,i opoia perase aparatiriti kai asxoliasti.molis to eida grammeno,skeftika oti standar den exo akousei pote kapoio album pou na min eixe estw ena tragoudi,to opoio to vrika KALO.


Την Erebos Productions δε τη ξέρεις, ε; :P

[UmbilicalResidue]

Υπάρχουν αρκετά albums που 'ναι μαλακιάρες απ'την αρχή ως το τέλος.
Επίσης σε ένα κακό album αν υπάρχει ένα μέτριο κομμάτι, ή μια καλή ιδέα σε ένα και μοναδικό σημείο, θα σου φανεί πολύ καλύτερο απ'ότι είναι. Αν έχεις καταφέρει να ακούσεις ως εκεί ε heaheh

[Witchkiller]

apisteuta sofi kouventa,i opoia perase aparatiriti kai asxoliasti.molis to eida grammeno,skeftika oti standar den exo akousei pote kapoio album pou na min eixe estw ena tragoudi,to opoio to vrika KALO.

an de sas fainetai ilithio/autonoito/kati_allo_apaksiotiko sxoliaste

Exeis akousei Killen?

[eyeamflesch]

AHEAHEA, EIPES TRELIS BLAKEIA SYMPE.

[Solo Carriera]

yup.

[pitchfork]

AHEAHEA, EIPES TRELIS BLAKEIA SYMPE.
το πρώτο παράδειγμα που μου ‘ρχεται στο μυαλό είναι όλα τα noisecore πχ οι Fear of God Agathokles klp της εποχής μου.
Οι Iced Earth ειπώθηκαν ήδη

[After Dark]

Epishs yparxoun afthona paradeigmata ki apo th sygxronh diskografia,opou oloklhra albums kalyptoun ola ta standards gia na tous dwseis ena megaloprepestato 0 (mhden) xwris thn yparksh oute ena metriou tragoudiou gia to gamwto ths ypotheshs.Proxeira paradeigmata kapoioi SACROSANCTUM kai oi THE AERIUM.

[FIXXXER]

Ba de sumfono, alla katalavaino pos to egrapse o sympos. Pantos an einai kati pou sigoura isxuei einai oti se kathe album uparxei ena kommati ligotero skata apo ta alla.

[BLiTzER]

Sofo ayto.










































An eksaireseis oti pantou yparxei kati ligotero h perissotero <opoiodhpote epitheto edo> giati prokeitai gia SYGKRISH :P

[FIXXXER]

De to eixa skeftei etsi! :!: :!: :!:

[Amnesiac.]

o sympo einai mpazosyllektis.

[The Good Son]

den yparxoun mono rock/metal/goth/punk/otidhpote-sxetiko albums.
afto :!:

[pitchfork]

Ναι.
Υπάρχουν και άλμπουμς με μουσική.

[MoRmEnGiL]

Ναι.
Υπάρχουν και άλμπουμς με μουσική.

:D