sound blaster

[irreligious]

loipon mounares...peite an kserete ti skata kanei touto'do to marafeti...gia doste kammia pliroforia(oxi link kai malakies...oti gnnorizoutai)...
peite kai kana programmataki na mporo grapso tympana(ektos fruity loops...)

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

sound blaster ti?

[irreligious]

audigy or smth like that...



peite kai kana programmataki na mporo na grapso tympana(ektos fruity loops...)

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

audigy GTP.

Enigouei, ti ennoeis otan les na grafeis tympana?
Na hxografiseis 'h na xrhsimopoihseis samples san drummachine ?

[irreligious]

axem..na ta programmatizw..oxi drumloops kai me koptoraptiki na kamw oti thelw

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Epeidh pali den katalava:

Afou hxografiseis ta samples sou ('h exeis etoima), an thes na kanmneis douleia me c/p, mporeis kai me ena opoiodhpote sequencer. Nuendo, Cakewalk Sonar, Cubase einai merikes lyseis.

Alliws, an thes na doulepseis opws kai m'ena hardware drummachine, mporeis wraiotata na to kamneis me to Reason. Dld, na vazeis to kathe sample (snare, bassdrum, klpklp) stous xronous pou thes.

[desosav]

kata ta alla i audigy 1 ton perni apo tin 2
kai i 2 ton perni apo tin 4!
3 den iparxi

[katwrimos]

Oi sound blaster genikotera kai oi audigy eidikotera einai mia xara kartes ixou, opoios leei to antitheto parakaleitai na skasei giati ksero kalitera, ektos an einai o eyeamflesh pou dikaioutai na milaei giati to sinti tis mpantas tou exei kali paragogi. :D

Programmata gia drums: an thes kati aplo, fruity loops. Alla mathe kana cubase i nuendo, aksizei ton gkopo

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

oi soundblaster einai ok gia home xrhsh.

genikotera einai gia to mpoutso.-

[silencerius]

Egw exw audigy ZS platinum pro edition kai eimai mia xara euxaristimenos. Den metaniwsa katholou ta lefta pou dwsa.

[necropethamenos]

oi soundblaster einai ok gia home xrhsh.

genikotera einai gia to mpoutso.-3


egw exw terratec phaseUSB 26 kai sas gamw tis blasters :p

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

necro, s'exw kai sena. :tease: :tease: :tease: :P

[katwrimos]

oi soundblaster einai ok gia home xrhsh.

genikotera einai gia to mpoutso.-

eimai periergos an exeis perasei esto kai ekso apo sovaro studio, poso malon na exeis ixografisei se ena tetoio oste na exeis apopsi se ena toso eksidikevmeno thema... Epi tis ousias oxi den einai gia to mpoutso genikotera, mporeis aneta na ixografiseis me afti, apla kaneis den to kanei giati iparxoun (ligo) kaliteres.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

eimai periergos an exeis perasei esto kai ekso apo sovaro studio, poso malon na exeis ixografisei se ena tetoio oste na exeis apopsi se ena toso eksidikevmeno thema... Epi tis ousias oxi den einai gia to mpoutso genikotera, mporeis aneta na ixografiseis me afti, apla kaneis den to kanei giati iparxoun (ligo) kaliteres.

eimai audiophile apo ta 7 mou, paizw mousikh apo ta 5 mou, asxoloumai me pisia apo ta 14 mou, asxoloumai me ton pro hxo arketa xronia, exoun perasei mpolikes kartes kai audio interfaces apo ta pc mou, spoudazw hlektronika kai exw apopsh gia to thema twn kartwn hxou.

an den s'aresei h apopsh mou, mh mou milas giaFthn.

[katwrimos]

eimai periergos an exeis perasei esto kai ekso apo sovaro studio, poso malon na exeis ixografisei se ena tetoio oste na exeis apopsi se ena toso eksidikevmeno thema... Epi tis ousias oxi den einai gia to mpoutso genikotera, mporeis aneta na ixografiseis me afti, apla kaneis den to kanei giati iparxoun (ligo) kaliteres.

eimai audiophile apo ta 7 mou, paizw mousikh apo ta 5 mou, asxoloumai me pisia apo ta 14 mou, asxoloumai me ton pro hxo arketa xronia, exoun perasei mpolikes kartes kai audio interfaces apo ta pc mou, spoudazw hlektronika kai exw apopsh gia to thema twn kartwn hxou.

an den s'aresei h apopsh mou, mh mou milas giaFthn.


Pos ginetai na exeis apopsi gia studio recording eno i moni sou empiria me tis ixografiseis einai oi ixografiseis sta PC sou?

apli aporia...

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

ok, den ksanakanw tin idia malakia.

talk to da hand (:moutza:) coz da face (http://www.geocities.com/erictheodorecartman007/liakogifo.GIF) ain't listenin.

:pink: :pink: :pink:

[katwrimos]

Ok, eplizo na pernate oraia ekei sto club ton elinon ixolipton me apopsi gia olla alla me 0 aksioprepeis paragoges :D

[Phoebus]

Όχι πάλι για την Σουηδία... Έλεος;

Νομίζεις πχ ότι οι παραγωγές της ελληνικής μουσικής, είτε είναι folk είτε jazz είτε WHATEVER έχουν 0 αξιοπρέπεια; Σοβαρέψου. Παντού υπάρχουν σοβαροί παραγωγοί.

Τώρα, με τις κάρτες ήχου, και αυτές έχουν έναν επεξεργαστή. Η αλήθεια είναι ότι οι SB είναι αξιοπρεπείς κάρτες για home use όμως αλλές κάρτες όμως είναι ΠΟΛΥ καλύτερες, ειδικά από πλευράς hardware και προγραμματισμού του κάθε ολοκληρωμένου(και μην πιάσουμε τα παθητικά μέρη). Το κακό βέβαια είναι ότι λίγοι άνθρωποι στο κόσμο ξέρουν να παράγουν μουσική με την αποδοτικότητα που μπορεί να έχει μια επαγγελματική κάρτα ήχου.

Δεν μπορείς να ηχογραφήσεις live μια ορχήστρα 60 οργάνων με μια SB. Χρειάζεσαι επαγγελματική/ες κάρτα/ες - σαν να λες ότι μπορώ να κάνω render το Toy Story με μια CPU της Intel.

[katwrimos]

Όχι πάλι για την Σουηδία... Έλεος;

Νομίζεις πχ ότι οι παραγωγές της ελληνικής μουσικής, είτε είναι folk είτε jazz είτε WHATEVER έχουν 0 αξιοπρέπεια; Σοβαρέψου. Παντού υπάρχουν σοβαροί παραγωγοί.

safos alla o kartman den einai enas apo aftous, toulaxiston mexri na akousoume kati pou exei ixografisei kai exei paragogi i opoia tha dikaiologei tin diamorfosi toso eksidikeumenis apopsis. Ston eyeamflesh pou exei kalo ixo to cd tou to paradextika kai tou eipa mpravo


Τώρα, με τις κάρτες ήχου, και αυτές έχουν έναν επεξεργαστή. Η αλήθεια είναι ότι οι SB είναι αξιοπρεπείς κάρτες για home use όμως αλλές κάρτες όμως είναι ΠΟΛΥ καλύτερες, ειδικά από πλευράς hardware και προγραμματισμού του κάθε ολοκληρωμένου(και μην πιάσουμε τα παθητικά μέρη). Το κακό βέβαια είναι ότι λίγοι άνθρωποι στο κόσμο ξέρουν να παράγουν μουσική με την αποδοτικότητα που μπορεί να έχει μια επαγγελματική κάρτα ήχου.

Δεν μπορείς να ηχογραφήσεις live μια ορχήστρα 60 οργάνων με μια SB. Χρειάζεσαι επαγγελματική/ες κάρτα/ες - σαν να λες ότι μπορώ να κάνω render το Toy Story με μια CPU της Intel.

se afto exeis dikio, alla afto den kathista tis soundblaster gia ton poutso, sosta?

[Gabriel]

oi soundblaster einai ok gia home xrhsh.

genikotera einai gia to mpoutso.-

ayto, katwrime. please, let go mia fora.



Όχι πάλι για την Σουηδία... Έλεος;

Νομίζεις πχ ότι οι παραγωγές της ελληνικής μουσικής, είτε είναι folk είτε jazz είτε WHATEVER έχουν 0 αξιοπρέπεια; Σοβαρέψου. Παντού υπάρχουν σοβαροί παραγωγοί.

safos alla o kartman den einai enas apo aftous, toulaxiston mexri na akousoume kati pou exei ixografisei kai exei paragogi i opoia tha dikaiologei tin diamorfosi toso eksidikeumenis apopsis. Ston eyeamflesh pou exei kalo ixo to cd tou to paradextika kai tou eipa mpravo


den einai anagkh na exei hxografhsei trilogia CDs gia na kserei. diabazeis ta specs ths kartas, paizeis 5-6 kartes, diabazeis kai 20 egkyra periodika poy lene ola to idio kai eisai OK. to argument, "gia na milhseis gia to poso kryo einai to diasthma prepei na exeis paei sto MIR" einai oligon skarto.

(PS exw terratec ews88mt 4-5 xronia kai akoma xynw kai egw tis soundblasters poy eixa kai einai GTP)

[katwrimos]

i won't let go pano ston tomea opou exo tis perissoteres gnoseis kai apo tous dio sas :(

ksero oti akougomai san kakos diktatoras, alla den ksero pos na to fero pio evgenika :(

Oi sound blaster einai mia xara kartes. Mporeis na grapseis mia xara epagelmatikous diskous me aftes. To ksero giati to exo kanei, diladi ok pigaine www.ticotico.fi (http://www.ticotico.fi) kai des ti diskoi exoun graftei se sound blaster.

Profanos oi terratec einai kaliteres kartes, alla afto den simainei oti oi SB einai gia ton mpoutso... Diladi an einai gia to mpoutso, giati gamaei o ixos ton perissoteron albums pou graftikan sta anothi studio (pou molis prin 1 xrono alakse ti soundblaster)?

Diladi toso diskolo einai na dexteis oti kapoios pou menei sti skandinavia kai exei ixografisei se skandinavika studio kai exei xeiropiasta apotelesmata ta opoia mporeis na akouseis mporei na kserei kalitera apo esena kai ton kartman?

[Gabriel]

i won't let go pano ston tomea opou exo tis perissoteres gnoseis kai apo tous dio sas :(

ksero oti akougomai san kakos diktatoras, alla den ksero pos na to fero pio evgenika :(

Oi sound blaster einai mia xara kartes. Mporeis na grapseis mia xara epagelmatikous diskous me aftes. To ksero giati to exo kanei, diladi ok pigaine www.ticotico.fi (http://www.ticotico.fi) kai des ti diskoi exoun graftei se sound blaster.

Profanos oi terratec einai kaliteres kartes, alla afto den simainei oti oi SB einai gia ton mpoutso... Diladi an einai gia to mpoutso, giati gamaei o ixos ton perissoteron albums pou graftikan sta anothi studio (pou molis prin 1 xrono alakse ti soundblaster)?

Diladi toso diskolo einai na dexteis oti kapoios pou menei sti skandinavia kai exei ixografisei se skandinavika studio kai exei xeiropiasta apotelesmata ta opoia mporeis na akouseis mporei na kserei kalitera apo esena kai ton kartman?

egw oso kairo parakoloythw ensembles apo studios se diafores klimakes epaggelmatismoy (kai milaw gia paragwgoys hlektronikhs moysikhs kyriws) den exw oyte ena poy na xrhsimopoiei Soundblaster. einai sxedon clear oti h creative lansare panta tis kartes tis ws gaming kai home entertainment kartes kai oxi amigeis kartes gia recording (home h' professional, les kai yparxei distinction - exw dei home studios efamilla twn epaggelmatikwn). pote - ap'oso kserw - tis sounblaster den tis lambanan poly sobara stoys moysikoys kykloys kai panta (oson afora thn texnologia) akoloythoysan meta apo kairo alloys leaders.

PS to gtp sxolio mporei na htan ligo too much. alla sto myalo moy de tha ginoyn pote proper recording kartes.

[katwrimos]

well, to sxolio GTP einai ontos out of space, afou prokeitai gia mia xara kartes. Fisika oi sound engineers me mia kaliteri karta sta xeria tous kanoun thavmata, omos i pikri alithia einai oti sta xeria esena kai tou kartman (ante, kai emena) den apotelei kanena idietero ergaleio... Diladi tha vgalete enan ixo 10% kalitero apo oti me SB pososto pou den dikaiologei ton xaraktirismo gia ton mpoutso, oute kan to xaraktirismo "kaki karta" an laveis ipopsi to kostos tis...

[Gabriel]

well, to sxolio GTP einai ontos out of space, afou prokeitai gia mia xara kartes. Fisika oi sound engineers me mia kaliteri karta sta xeria tous kanoun thavmata, omos i pikri alithia einai oti sta xeria esena kai tou kartman (ante, kai emena) den apotelei kanena idietero ergaleio... Diladi tha vgalete enan ixo 10% kalitero apo oti me SB pososto pou den dikaiologei ton xaraktirismo gia ton mpoutso, oute kan to xaraktirismo "kaki karta" an laveis ipopsi to kostos tis...

o hxos einai to ligotero. mexri prin 2-3 xronia (kai se kapoio bathmo, akoma) to hardware ths soundblaster apla den htan gia recording. den htan ftiagmenh me ayto to purpose in mind.

Edit: o,ti karta skaei me thlexeirhsthrio.....e....don;t get me started naoym

[katwrimos]

Otan me petixeis sto net thimisemou na sou stilo ena tragoudaki ixografimeno se SB live player pou gamaei otidipote exei ixografithei notioanatolika tou monaxou ever :D

(Afto pou les isxiei gia tis palies SB, thimisou omos oti aftes kostizane TIPOTA, opote profanos milame mono gia ta ekseligmena montela tis creative)

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Mporw na anaferw gyrw stous 30 logous gia tous opoious h kainouria karta mou einai makran kalyterh apo tin palia mou platinum. Opoiosdhpote exei amfivolia, as mou to zhthsei.

KANENA SOVARO studio ston kozmo den exei akoumpisei pote to kouti mias SB. Kai den milaw gia ticotico kai fikifiki. Milaw gia SOVARA studio. Aplo.

Oi sb einai MONO gia home erasitexnikh xrhsh, oute kan semi-pro.-
O Gabrilhs me kalypse, opws kai o Phoebus, eidika sto paradeigma me to rendering.

[jimid]

To tico-tico einai sovaro studio omws. Min ta isopedwnoume ola...

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

http://www.saharasound.com
sovaro studio.

http://www.airstudios.com
sovaro studio.

http://www.sarmstudios.com/
sovaro studio.

http://www.ticotico.fi
ligotero_sovaro_studio.

[jimid]

Miso gia na katalavw. To Fredman einai sovaro studio kata tin apopsi sou?

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Ta fredman einai kalytera apo ta ticotico, alla otan to megalytero onoma pou exoun hxografisei einai oi Hammerfall, apexei ligo apo afto pou EGW apokalw sovaro.

[jimid]

Ta fredman einai kalytera apo ta ticotico, alla otan to megalytero onoma pou exoun hxografisei einai oi Hammerfall, apexei ligo apo afto pou EGW apokalw sovaro.

E oxi da...

In flames, Dimmu Borgir px einai mikroteres mpantes apo tous Hammer fall????? Oi paragwges tou se xalane?

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Ntaks, sxhma logou htan, katalavaineis ti thelw na pw...
Oi paragwges tous einai mia xara, opws kai twn ticotico, den exw kanena problhma m'afta ta studio, alla den pauoun na einai studio gia metal paragwges. To idio pragma einai me ena studio pou hxografei xorwdies kai orxhstres, 'h me ena pou kanei jazz projects 'h me ena pou paragei hlektronikh mousikh? Afto ennoousa otan elega "sovaro".

[jimid]

Symfwnw alla pistevw pws o oros "sovaro" einai analogos tis poiotitas tou studio sxetika me to antikeimeno tou. Dld opws eipame to Fredman pou einai ena metal studio kai exei poly kales metal paragwges opote einai ena "sovaro"- plires studio.

Anyway, leptomeries....
Synexiste ti syzitisi sas. Thelw na dw pou tha paei giati me endiaferei to thema.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Symfwnw alla pistevw pws o oros "sovaro" einai analogos tis poiotitas tou studio sxetika me to antikeimeno tou.

exeis apolyto dikio.
alla otan ta topothetiseis ola mazi, ta metal einai sigoura stis teleftaies theseis.-

[katwrimos]

kartman epidi sta teleutaia sou post i malakia pige sinefo, epidi den exeis paramikri idea peri tou ti einai kalo studio kai ti kako, kai peri tou pio studio xrisimopoiei poia karta ixou, alla kai pos ixografitai enas diskos apla

:skase:

kai akou afton pou kserei kalitera. Alios an thes na tis vgaloume ekso (tis paragoges mas) na tis metrisoume. Giati ekso apo to xoro kai ek tou asfalous pola tragoudia lene.

Diladi eleos, ego milao me vasi PROSOPIKI EMPIRIA kai XEIROPIASTA APOTELESMATA, esy mas les theories... please shut the fuck up, einai asteio na tin les esy se mena peri mousikon paragogon :?

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

:moutza: parta malaka katwrime pou phges sth souhdia kai nomizeis oti eides tin alitheia.

Starxidiamou oi malakies pou exeis hxografisei, starxidiamou ta ticotico kai oi soundblaster tous, na thn xairontai.

Pragmatika den exeis idea ti exw kanei stin zwh mou gyrw apo tin mousikh kai ton hxo, opote mhn me sygkrineis me to tomari sou giati ginesai akyros.

Epishs, otan matheis oti yparxoun kai alla eidh mousikh ektos apo tis pipes sou, ela na mou miliseis.

Kai telos, psofa kai as se krinoun oi ypoloipoi apo ta legomena sou oti h soundblaster einai studiakes kartes.-

Malaka.

[katwrimos]

Epidi ontos den exo idea ti exeis kanei me ti mousiki kai tis paragoges vale mou na akouso tipota pou exeis ixografisei na doume an ontos ksereis i mas douleveis :D

Kai episis nai, menontas sti suidia tha matheis kalitera ta themata afta se sxesi me kapoion pou menei stin ellada, opos an meneis stin ellada tha matheis kalitera na paizeis mpouzouki apo kapion souido...

[jimid]

Epidi ontos den exo idea ti exeis kanei me ti mousiki kai tis paragoges vale mou na akouso tipota pou exeis ixografisei na doume an ontos ksereis i mas douleveis :D

Kai episis nai, menontas sti suidia tha matheis kalitera ta themata afta se sxesi me kapoion pou menei stin ellada, opos an meneis stin ellada tha matheis kalitera na paizeis mpouzouki apo kapion souido...

Akyros! Allo i ektelestiki ikanonotita kai allo i morfwsi. Dld einai fact oti oi Souidoi einai kalyteroi kitharistes apo tous Ellines? :?

[BLiTzER]

Nai.

[jimid]

Skase esy! :P

[katwrimos]

oxi alla einai fact oti einai kaliteroi stuntiades, ixoliptes kai paragogoi... To paradeigma mou einai ligo koulo alla den mou erxetai kapios allos tomeas pou na iperteroume kata kratos ton souidon... (to ladoma isos? to xtipima frape? to tavli?)

[jimid]

oxi alla einai fact oti einai kaliteroi stuntiades, ixoliptes kai paragogoi... To paradeigma mou einai ligo koulo alla den mou erxetai kapios allos tomeas pou na iperteroume kata kratos ton souidon... (to ladoma isos? to xtipima frape? to tavli?)

Giati enw otan arxizeis na les kati swsto to gamas sto telos?
Ksekolla.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Giati einai kalyteroi re malaka katwrime?
Gennhthikan me TO XARIZMA?
Skepsou thn apanthsh kai problhmatisou.
Epishs, ksekolla me tis metal paragwges. To oti enas paragwgos kanei kalh douleia me tous In Flames den shmainei oti einai o kalyteros ston kozmo. Kserei to antikeimeno tou, alla mexri ekei. Kai sto katw katw, siga siga to idiwma kiolas pou thelei kai talento sthn paragwgh!

[jimid]

Kai petagomai pali egw na se epanaferw stin taksi! :P
Den einai dyskolo stin pragwgi tou to metal?
Ena tha sou pw. Des posoi diskoi metal me GTP paragwges kykloforoun.

O aforismos einai lathos. Skefteite prin peite otidipote...

[katwrimos]

einai kaliteroi gia XY logous, alla to gegonos paramenei oti einai kaliteroi.

Einai poly astio oxi aplos oti iperaspizesai tin apopsi sou epi tou thematos, alla kai to oti gia na to kaneis afto vgazeis ta tico tico ena metrio studio... Ok prosopika den exo aftapates oti ixografo sta studios tis EMI sti stokxlomli alla to na ti les esy se mena einai san na pigainei kapios erasitexnis podosferistis stin ellada kai na ti leei se enan podosferisti pou paizei sti b' ispanias. Ok, profanos i b' ispanias (ta tico tico) den einai premier league (ta studios pou aneferes os kala) alla parolafta, i diafora metaksi tis b' ispanias (pou ixografo ego) kai tou elinikou erasitexnikou protathlimatos (pou ixografeis esy) einai toso xaodis pou kanei opiadipote antiparathesi apopseon asteia. Diladi eleos.

[necropethamenos]

To ti malakia exw diavasei edw mesa den perigrafetai.

loipon.

Otan leme "kartes ixou" prepei na antiliftheite oti milame gia ena range proiontwn TERASTIO. Xwris na thelw na se apogoitefsw vlaka kitharista, i soundblaster den einai studiaki karta. To gegonos oti se ena pc tou studio mporei na paizei mia soundblaster de simainei oti SE SOUNDBLASTER GRAFETAI O DISKOS.

pio sygkekrimena, i soundblaster einai 2kanali karta. Diladi mporeis to poly poly na grapseis 2 monofwnika i ena stereo kanali.

Oi EPAGGELMATIKES kartes ixou einai 8kanales kai vale. Episis poly syxni einai i xrisi 3 i 4 8kanalwn kartwn wste to pc na antikatastisei to polykanalo. Fysika kammia apo aftes den einai soundblaster.

An o tico tico grafei ta panta se ena polykanalo kai meta ta petaei sto pc apo tin soundblaster, de simainei oti egine kai i soundblaster epaggelmatiki karta ixou.

Apodeiksi pantws olwn aftwn einai oti exw mia USB1.0 karta ixou tis terratec kai grafw me ASIO drivers kalytera ap'oti egrafa me tin platinum.

Episis, katwrime, to oti ekanes paragwgi se enan disko sto tico tico den paei na pei oti emathes oti xreiazotan na matheis sxetika me to hardware tou studio!! Ti fovera allazoniki logiki einai afti?

[katwrimos]

To gegonos paramenei omos, oti i SB den einai mia gia ton mpoutso karta ixou opos eipothike.

Profanos einai pio oraia na exeis 8 inputs anti gia 2, alla afto den kathistatin SB gia ton poutso kai kathara erasitexniki. Diladi apo ti stigmi pou sovara studios (oxi mono to tico tico, tin exo petixei kai se alla studio edo) tin xrisimopoioune, den mporeis na peis oti einai kali mono gia home recording, giati APODEDIGMENA exei kai polles akoma xriseis. PX, to studio stin poli pou meno, xrisimopoiei mia audigy 2 gia midi me poly kala apotelesmata. Episis oi mises kithares sto disko mas exoun graftei se mia soundblaster... Sigrine ton ixo mas me to meso sinti elinikis mpantas ixografimeno sto studio me eksoplismo 10plasiou kostous... OK? YOU GET THE POINT? OTI KAI ME SB MPOREIS NA VGALEIS MIA XARA IXO AN THES? (ara oi SB den einai gia to mpoutso)

Den prospatho na po oti oi SB einai kaliteres kartes apo tis terratec px (den einai), alla oti einai mia xara kartes. Sorry, einai mia xara kartes, to exo dei, it's a fact kai otidipote peis esy i o kartman den tha to alaksei :)

Oson afora ti logiki mou einai ontos alazoniki alla leo alithia... Zontas sti suidia ksero kalitera to thema tis ixografisis enos diskou apo oti o karman i esy...

[necropethamenos]

To gegonos paramenei omos, oti i SB den einai mia gia ton mpoutso karta ixou opos eipothike.

Profanos einai pio oraia na exeis 8 inputs anti gia 2, alla afto den kathistatin SB gia ton poutso kai kathara erasitexniki. Diladi apo ti stigmi pou sovara studios (oxi mono to tico tico, tin exo petixei kai se alla studio edo) tin xrisimopoioune, den mporeis na peis oti einai kali mono gia home recording, giati APODEDIGMENA exei kai polles akoma xriseis. PX, to studio stin poli pou meno, xrisimopoiei mia audigy 2 gia midi me poly kala apotelesmata. Episis oi mises kithares sto disko mas exoun graftei se mia soundblaster... Sigrine ton ixo mas me to meso sinti elinikis mpantas ixografimeno sto studio me eksoplismo 10plasiou kostous... OK? YOU GET THE POINT? OTI KAI ME SB MPOREIS NA VGALEIS MIA XARA IXO AN THES? (ara oi SB den einai gia to mpoutso)

Den prospatho na po oti oi SB einai kaliteres kartes apo tis terratec px (den einai), alla oti einai mia xara kartes. Sorry, einai mia xara kartes, to exo dei, it's a fact kai otidipote peis esy i o kartman den tha to alaksei :)

Oson afora ti logiki mou einai ontos alazoniki alla leo alithia... Zontas sti suidia ksero kalitera to thema tis ixografisis enos diskou apo oti o karman i esy...

i diafora ston ixo twn metal paragwgwn metaksy ellinwn kai evrwpaiwn vrisketai stin TEXNOGNWSIA kai oxi ston eksoplismo.

FYSIKA kai de ftaiei mia soundblaster gia ton kako ixo enos studio. FYSIKA kai mia soundblaster mporei na grapsei mia kithara.

TO THEMA EINAI oti mia karta ixou se ena studio, an prokeitai na exei SIMANTIKO ROLO - KATI POU OPWS PROSPATHISA NA SOU EKSIGISW EKSARTATAI APO TO SYNOLIKO SETUP POU THELEI NA XRISIMOPOIISEI O IXOLIPTIS- tote den tha einai sounblaster. SOU EKSIGW KAI PALI PALIOMALAKA:

OPWS LES KAI O IDIOS, STO STUDIO TIS PERIOXIS SOU XRISIMOPOIEITAI I SOUNDBLASTER GIA MIDI. E XAIRW POLY!!! DILADI GIA NA PERNAEI TO SIMA APO TA TRIGGERS STO CUBASE PX? E DEN EINAI AFTO GIA TO OPOIO XREIAZESAI MIA EPAGGELMATIKI KARTA IXOU!!!! KSYPNA MALAKA KSEROLA!!!!

Kai episis, oxi TO OTI EISAI STI SOUIDIA DE SE KANEI GNWSTI ENOS THEMATOS PIO POLY APO EMENA, DEN EXEIS FEREI ENA PRAGMATIKO EPIXEIRIMA SE OLO TO THREAD, EGW SOU MILISA GIA PARADEIGMA GIA KANALIA!!!

THES NA MILISOUME GIA POIOTITA TRANSISTORS?

THES NA MILISOUME GIA ASIO DRIVERS KAI POIES EFARMOGES THA ANTEKSOUN PERISSOTERA KANALIA PANW SE POIA KARTA?

I APANTISI SOU EINAI OTI STI SOUIDIA TI XRISIMOPOIEI O STUDIAS TOU XWRIOU SOU GIA MIDI KAI WS EK TOUTOU EINAI STUDIO KARTA?

POSO KARAGKIOZIS EISAI GAMW TO SPITI SOU?

edit: ASE POU to gegonos oti oi kithares sto disko mas akougontai gamates META TIN EFARMOGI TIS TEXNOGNWSIAS tou finlandou den leei kati gia tin karta. Diladi kai ta tympana gamata akougontai ALLA EIXE GINEI TRAGIKO LATHOS OTAN TA GRAFAME KAI TO THYMASAI!!!

AN O THEOS MPOREI NA FTIAKSEI MIA KOURADA NA AKOUGETAI SA XRYSOS, DEN SIMAINEI OTI I KOURADA EPESE STO XRYSORYXEIO!!!

PALI STI XESTRA EPESE!!!!

[katwrimos]

Ma prosekse. O filandos theorei tin SB arketa kali karta oste na ixografei sto studio tou. Fact. Vasi tou DIKOU SOU assumption (o filandos einai theos, kserei kalitera) kathistatai aftomata i apopsi sou lathemeni kai i diki mou pou tautizetai me tou filandou sosti, i kalo lathos?

Simple as this:

A. Ego kai o filandos leme : I sound blaster den einai gia to mpoutso
B. Esy les: o filandos einai theos kserei kalitera apo mas

sindiase to A. kai to B. kai pes mas ti vgainei :)

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Symfwnw 289% me ton necropethameno, kyriws edw:



THES NA MILISOUME GIA POIOTITA TRANSISTORS?

THES NA MILISOUME GIA ASIO DRIVERS KAI POIES EFARMOGES THA ANTEKSOUN PERISSOTERA KANALIA PANW SE POIA KARTA?

I APANTISI SOU EINAI OTI STI SOUIDIA TI XRISIMOPOIEI O STUDIAS TOU XWRIOU SOU GIA MIDI KAI WS EK TOUTOU EINAI STUDIO KARTA?

POSO KARAGKIOZIS EISAI GAMW TO SPITI SOU?

(kai dh sthn teleftaia rhtorikh erwthsh)

Afto pou eipe o katwrimos gia thn midi xrhsh deixnei to megethos ths asxetosynhs tou. To thema einai oti oi soundblaster einai apokleistika home kartes. H idia h creative tis paragei gi'afto to logo. FUCKIN' FACT.

Oi soundblaster einai h kwlotrypida twn kartwn hxou. Xeiroteres apo aftes den yparxoun, mono kalyteres. (ntaks, se kati onboard kai loipes pipes den dinoume kan shmasia). Dexthte to.-

As dwsoume ena telos s'afto. Katwrime, stamata na me sygkrineis me sena giati den exeis idea gia to atomo mou kai tis drasthriothtes mou. Mhn apodeiknyeis synexws oti eisai karagkiozhs, kanontas kati tetoio.

[Gabriel]

Hremia, agaphtoi. To thema tha lythei. Tha moy dwsei o Cartman thn E-Mu kai to Triton, kai apo ekei kai pera, ola briskontai.

[katwrimos]

karman apo ti mia les na stamatiso na se krino, apo tin alli otan sou zitao na akousoume kati pou ixografises den sxoliazeis... Diladi afou asxoleisai tosa xronia me tis ixografiseis den exeis kratisei oute ena mp3 na akousoume? Me ton eyeamflesh otan eixame mia paroloia diafonia, mou evale na akouso mp3 tis mpantas tou, gamage kai dextika oti eixe dikio ki eskasa, den eimai kolimenos stis apopseis mou i kati tetoio.

Oson afora tis kartes ixou, den tha sinexiso ti sizitisi giati af enos den katalavaineis to poly aplo (oti den ginetai na ksereis kalitera apo emena kai ton ixolipti tou tico tico) opote den exei noima. O necropethamenos, ok exei ixografisei kai 2 diskous sti zoi tou, exei kapoia apopsi epi tou thematos. Esy mou dineis tin entiposi oti oi apopseis pou ekfereis einai vasismenes MONO sta ta texnika xaraktiristika pou diavazeis se periodika kai les WOW afto edo prepei na gamaei. An kano lathos kai exeis prosopiki peira epi tou thematos, as akouso kati pou exeis grapsei kai to ksanasizitame epi allis vasis.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Hremia, agaphtoi. To thema tha lythei. Tha moy dwsei o Cartman thn E-Mu kai to Triton, kai apo ekei kai pera, ola briskontai.

Nai mwro mou. :D

:pink:



(oti den ginetai na ksereis kalitera apo emena kai ton ixolipti tou tico tico)

eisai malakas? einai h pollosth fora pou rwtaw. Legontas kati tetoio deixneis to poso karagkiozhs eisai. Ksekola, gia to diko sou kalo.

Epishs, den yparxei H PARAMIKRH periptwsh na sou dwsw n'akouseis douleia mou. Den exw tipota na sou apodeiksw, h gnwmh sou den aksizei oute gia ta arxidia mou opws kai to atomo sou genikotera.
Mporeis na pisteveis oti thes gia emena, den me aggizei to thema.

[katwrimos]

eisai malakas? einai h pollosth fora pou rwtaw. Legontas kati tetoio deixneis to poso karagkiozhs eisai. Ksekola, gia to diko sou kalo.

Diladi gia esena den paizei rolo i empiria kapoiou mesa sto studio sto poso simantiki einai i gnomi tou oson afora tis kartes ixou?



Epishs, den yparxei H PARAMIKRH periptwsh na sou dwsw n'akouseis douleia mou. Den exw tipota na sou apodeiksw, h gnwmh sou den aksizei oute gia ta arxidia mou opws kai to atomo sou genikotera.
Mporeis na pisteveis oti thes gia emena, den me aggizei to thema.
Sevasto na mi thes na mou doseis na akouso ti douleia sou, alla apo tin alli afou den to kaneis, einai aftonoito oti ego den tha pistepso oti "eisai gnostis tou thematos" epidi apla esy to isxirizesai. Oute ego, oute kanenas gnostos mou sto ER den se kserei prosopika, opote tha prepei kapos na stirikseis ton isxirismo sou, alios einai logiko na min ton pistepso.

To gegonos oti me miseis epidi ekana to egklima na sou mikrino to display image, den anairei to gegonos oti kata tekmirio eimai pio armodios apo sena na miliso gia themata paragogis/ixolipsias.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Sevasto na mi thes na mou doseis na akouso ti douleia sou, alla apo tin alli afou den to kaneis, einai aftonoito oti ego den tha pistepso oti "eisai gnostis tou thematos" epidi apla esy to isxirizesai. Oute ego, oute kanenas gnostos mou sto ER den se kserei prosopika, opote tha prepei kapos na stirikseis ton isxirismo sou, alios einai logiko na min ton pistepso.

Opws egraFsa kai parapanw, pragmatika den me aggizei to thema.
Pisteve oti thes, dikaiwma sou einai.


To gegonos oti me miseis epidi ekana to egklima na sou mikrino to display image, den anairei to gegonos oti kata tekmirio eimai pio armodios apo sena na miliso gia themata paragogis/ixolipsias.

Edw kaneis lathos. Den se "misw" gia to thema tou sig. Den exei nohma na krypsw oti antipathw to atomo sou, apo afta pou grafeis kai kyriws ton tropo me ton opoio ta grafeis. Kai ypothetw oti kai ta aisthimata einai kapws amoivaia. Twra an se dw apo konta kai milisoume kai mou kaneis koukou san xarakthras, afto einai allo thema. Telos, to an eisai pio armodios apo mena sto thema tou hxou, sigoura den to ksereis ESY.

[necropethamenos]

katwrime, agnoeis epideiktika to thema tis XRISIS tis kartas mesa se ena studio.

den einai gia ton mpoutso, ama ti xrisimopoieis san monitoring device, san midi controller, akoma kai san 2kanalo recording tis telikis miksis sou sto pc.

einai gia to mpoutso an thes omws na kaneis PRAGMATIKES studio ergasies me tin karta, DILADI NA ANTIKATASTISEI ENA SOVARO MEROS TOU STUDIAKOU EKSOPLISMOU.

KATALAVE oti i studiaki karta ixou exei AFTIN AKRIVWS tin xrisi: TIN ANTIKATASTASI POLLWN EPIPLEON MIXANIMATWN.

Me miseis pou to lew afto, alla o kartman exei dikio kyriws giati eisai tromera allazonas. Thewreis tin apopsi sou "antikeimenika" swsti, de diavazeis omws ti grafw stin pragmatikotita!

Diladi kai to gegonos oti o theos o finlandos exei mia soundblaster symvainei giati den XREIAZETAI mia alli, kai afto me ti seira tou symvainei giati den xrisimopoiei tin soundblaster gia ergasies analoges mias studio kartas.

APOKLEIETAI re malaka me ena pc kai mia soundblaster na treksei real time vst effects mesa apo ti konsola tou. Gia tin akriveia apokleietai KAI logw epeksergasti, KAI logw tis mias kai monadikis eksodou tis sblaster pou mporei na xrisimopoiisei.

Katalave to, studio = taftoxroni ixografisi pollwn kanaliwn = konsola. Studio karta einai afti pou mporei na xrisimopoiithei me tin konsola, oxi me midi devices aplws i me tin EKSODO tis konsolas mono!

PREPEI na exei polla polla kanalakia gia na doulevei me ena polykanaliko setup.

GUESS WHAT, STUDIO XWRIS POLYKANALIKO SETUP DE GINETAI.

Twra, gia tin kyklikotita tis skepsis, ksanadiavase to prwto pragma pou egrapsa se afto to post.

[katwrimos]

katwrime, agnoeis epideiktika to thema tis XRISIS tis kartas mesa se ena studio.

den einai gia ton mpoutso, ama ti xrisimopoieis san monitoring device, san midi controller, akoma kai san 2kanalo recording tis telikis miksis sou sto pc.



OK, afto itan pou eipa ki ego. Oti den einai gia to mpoutso kai gia xriseis pou ksepernoun to home recording. To ipoloipo post sou den exei noima giati pouthena den egrapsa oti mia audigy arkei kai mporei na ipokatastisei mia teratec, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso karta opos leei o kartman. Ta parapano tha ta ikseres fisika an eixes mpei ston kopo na diavaseis OLO to topic.

Diladi ok, to pegaut sou den sigrinetai me mia ferrari, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

SHAKIN' HANDS WIV THE GOVNOR OF LUV

[necropethamenos]

katwrime, agnoeis epideiktika to thema tis XRISIS tis kartas mesa se ena studio.

den einai gia ton mpoutso, ama ti xrisimopoieis san monitoring device, san midi controller, akoma kai san 2kanalo recording tis telikis miksis sou sto pc.



OK, afto itan pou eipa ki ego. Oti den einai gia to mpoutso kai gia xriseis pou ksepernoun to home recording. To ipoloipo post sou den exei noima giati pouthena den egrapsa oti mia audigy arkei kai mporei na ipokatastisei mia teratec, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso karta opos leei o kartman. Ta parapano tha ta ikseres fisika an eixes mpei ston kopo na diavaseis OLO to topic.

Diladi ok, to pegaut sou den sigrinetai me mia ferrari, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso.

katwrime, to monitoring i i midi xrisi (gia controls) i mia 2kanali ixografa opws anefera parapanw (des to quote pou mou ekanes) den ksepernoun to home recording.

ola ta "anousia" pou egrafa parakatw to ksepernousan.

guess what THAT means.

Kai episis, to toutou mou DEN einai agwnistiko. Wraio einai, alla de to vazeis se pista. Afto lew kai gia tin kartoula. ok?

[katwrimos]

katwrime, agnoeis epideiktika to thema tis XRISIS tis kartas mesa se ena studio.

den einai gia ton mpoutso, ama ti xrisimopoieis san monitoring device, san midi controller, akoma kai san 2kanalo recording tis telikis miksis sou sto pc.



OK, afto itan pou eipa ki ego. Oti den einai gia to mpoutso kai gia xriseis pou ksepernoun to home recording. To ipoloipo post sou den exei noima giati pouthena den egrapsa oti mia audigy arkei kai mporei na ipokatastisei mia teratec, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso karta opos leei o kartman. Ta parapano tha ta ikseres fisika an eixes mpei ston kopo na diavaseis OLO to topic.

Diladi ok, to pegaut sou den sigrinetai me mia ferrari, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso.

katwrime, to monitoring i i midi xrisi (gia controls) i mia 2kanali ixografa opws anefera parapanw (des to quote pou mou ekanes) den ksepernoun to home recording.



Fisika kai to ksepernoun, alios ton disko ton grapsame me home reocrding.

[Dragonlord]

o katwrimos einai ikanos na paei me papaki sto aerodromio kai meta na epimenei pws to papaki gamaei giati me auto phge sth souhdia

[silencerius]

o katwrimos einai ikanos na paei me papaki sto aerodromio kai meta na epimenei pws to papaki gamaei giati me auto phge sth souhdia

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[katwrimos]

to sinti omos den graftike sti suidia

[necropethamenos]

katwrime, agnoeis epideiktika to thema tis XRISIS tis kartas mesa se ena studio.

den einai gia ton mpoutso, ama ti xrisimopoieis san monitoring device, san midi controller, akoma kai san 2kanalo recording tis telikis miksis sou sto pc.



OK, afto itan pou eipa ki ego. Oti den einai gia to mpoutso kai gia xriseis pou ksepernoun to home recording. To ipoloipo post sou den exei noima giati pouthena den egrapsa oti mia audigy arkei kai mporei na ipokatastisei mia teratec, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso karta opos leei o kartman. Ta parapano tha ta ikseres fisika an eixes mpei ston kopo na diavaseis OLO to topic.

Diladi ok, to pegaut sou den sigrinetai me mia ferrari, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso.

katwrime, to monitoring i i midi xrisi (gia controls) i mia 2kanali ixografa opws anefera parapanw (des to quote pou mou ekanes) den ksepernoun to home recording.



Fisika kai to ksepernoun, alios ton disko ton grapsame me home reocrding.

ksypna, to oti eixe mia soundblaster gia to pc tou, alla fysika eixe kai olo to studio apo pisw den metetrepse tin soundblaster se studio equipment. Diladi kai mia skoupa isws exeis mesa sto studio gia to patwma. Einai studio skoupa?

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Diladi kai mia skoupa isws exeis mesa sto studio gia to patwma. Einai studio skoupa?

E, an thn xrhsimopoiei o finlandos kathe vrady meta tis hxografiseis, asfalws kai einai... :?

[katwrimos]

katwrime, agnoeis epideiktika to thema tis XRISIS tis kartas mesa se ena studio.

den einai gia ton mpoutso, ama ti xrisimopoieis san monitoring device, san midi controller, akoma kai san 2kanalo recording tis telikis miksis sou sto pc.



OK, afto itan pou eipa ki ego. Oti den einai gia to mpoutso kai gia xriseis pou ksepernoun to home recording. To ipoloipo post sou den exei noima giati pouthena den egrapsa oti mia audigy arkei kai mporei na ipokatastisei mia teratec, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso karta opos leei o kartman. Ta parapano tha ta ikseres fisika an eixes mpei ston kopo na diavaseis OLO to topic.

Diladi ok, to pegaut sou den sigrinetai me mia ferrari, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso.

katwrime, to monitoring i i midi xrisi (gia controls) i mia 2kanali ixografa opws anefera parapanw (des to quote pou mou ekanes) den ksepernoun to home recording.



Fisika kai to ksepernoun, alios ton disko ton grapsame me home reocrding.

ksypna, to oti eixe mia soundblaster gia to pc tou, alla fysika eixe kai olo to studio apo pisw den metetrepse tin soundblaster se studio equipment. Diladi kai mia skoupa isws exeis mesa sto studio gia to patwma. Einai studio skoupa?

I skoupa den xrisimopoihthike stin ixografisi, i karta nai kai se polles. Kanena alo paralogo epixeirima?

[necropethamenos]

[quote="necropethamenos":2in6ms7p]katwrime, agnoeis epideiktika to thema tis XRISIS tis kartas mesa se ena studio.

den einai gia ton mpoutso, ama ti xrisimopoieis san monitoring device, san midi controller, akoma kai san 2kanalo recording tis telikis miksis sou sto pc.



OK, afto itan pou eipa ki ego. Oti den einai gia to mpoutso kai gia xriseis pou ksepernoun to home recording. To ipoloipo post sou den exei noima giati pouthena den egrapsa oti mia audigy arkei kai mporei na ipokatastisei mia teratec, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso karta opos leei o kartman. Ta parapano tha ta ikseres fisika an eixes mpei ston kopo na diavaseis OLO to topic.

Diladi ok, to pegaut sou den sigrinetai me mia ferrari, afto omos den simainei oti einai gia to mpoutso.

katwrime, to monitoring i i midi xrisi (gia controls) i mia 2kanali ixografa opws anefera parapanw (des to quote pou mou ekanes) den ksepernoun to home recording.



Fisika kai to ksepernoun, alios ton disko ton grapsame me home reocrding.

ksypna, to oti eixe mia soundblaster gia to pc tou, alla fysika eixe kai olo to studio apo pisw den metetrepse tin soundblaster se studio equipment. Diladi kai mia skoupa isws exeis mesa sto studio gia to patwma. Einai studio skoupa?

I skoupa den xrisimopoihthike stin ixografisi, i karta nai kai se polles. Kanena alo paralogo epixeirima?[/quote:2in6ms7p]

ela twra, apla kaneis to vlaka gia na ypostirikseis kiallo to epixeirima sou?

den katalavaineis oti pantou mporeis na xrisimopoiiseis ena home mixanima, arkei na kaneis me afto MONO oti sou epitrepoun oi dynatotites tou?

poso vlakas eisai?

[katwrimos]

An oi dinatotites tou sou epitrepoun na ixografiseis 100 epagelmatikous diskous tote DEN einai gia to mpoutso gia otidipote ektos apo home recording. Gia tin akriveia arkoun 10-20 diskoi gia na tin vgaloun apo tin katigoria "gia ton mpoutso gia otidipote ektos apo home recording".

diladi an itan gia to mpoutso, den tha eprepe ta album pou ixografountai (IXOGRAFOUNTAI, den ginetai to controlling tou midi e) me afti, na einai esto kai merika apo afta gia to mpoutso?

[necropethamenos]

An oi dinatotites tou sou epitrepoun na ixografiseis 100 epagelmatikous diskous tote DEN einai gia to mpoutso gia otidipote ektos apo home recording. Gia tin akriveia arkoun 10-20 diskoi gia na tin vgaloun apo tin katigoria "gia ton mpoutso gia otidipote ektos apo home recording".

diladi an itan gia to mpoutso, den tha eprepe ta album pou ixografountai (IXOGRAFOUNTAI, den ginetai to controlling tou midi e) me afti, na einai esto kai merika apo afta gia to mpoutso?

ok, oso kai na sou eksigw apla den katalavaineis ti grafw. ara den exei noima. kathe fora pou thes na matheis ti exw na pw gia to anyparkto epixeirima sou, apla diavase ta proigoumena posts mou.

apla paraitoumai.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

ntaks, afou eftase kai o necropethamenos AKRIVWS sto idio shmeio, niwthw ok me ton eafto mou, niwthw fysiologikos. :D

[katwrimos]

katalavaino ti enoeis alla den isxiei... Diladi an me to 206 sou simetasxeis 100 fores sti formula 1 kai vgaineis se normal theseis, tote OXI DEN EINAI MONO ENA AFTOKINITO GIA NA GIRIZEIS MESA STIN POLI SOU.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

apla afto den proketai na symvei pote.

[Gabriel]

btw - kai slightly off topic - exoyn bgei kataplhktikes paragwges/recordings se "home studios" ston eyrytero xwro ths hlektronikhs moysikhs. kai xrhsimopoiw ta quotes giati, me thn texnologia sxetika prosith tis meres mas, paizoyn kati dedicated studios se spitia na soy peftei to sagoni.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

btw - kai slightly off topic - exoyn bgei kataplhktikes paragwges/recordings se "home studios" ston eyrytero xwro ths hlektronikhs moysikhs. kai xrhsimopoiw ta quotes giati, me thn texnologia sxetika prosith tis meres mas, paizoyn kati dedicated studios se spitia na soy peftei to sagoni.

swsta.
kai gyrnwntas on-topic, kanena apo afta den exei soundblaster. :P :wink:

[silencerius]

ntaks, afou eftase kai o necropethamenos AKRIVWS sto idio shmeio, niwthw ok me ton eafto mou, niwthw fysiologikos. :D

ki egw sto idio simeio eixa ftasei se ena allo thread :)

den einai tixaio katwrime pantws.

[katwrimos]

Silenserius sto sigekrimeno thema i periptosi sou den einai katholou idia me ton kartman kai ton necropethameno, giati ok me aftous tous dio diafono, me esena sto topic ekeino elega sxedon TO IDIO PRAMA ME SENA ki esy tsantizosouna gia kapoio agnosto se mena logo, to oti den ksereis na diavazeis loipon einai poly diaforetiko apo to na diafoneis me kati pou diavazeis :)


pame ston CARTMAN tora:

Ontos den simvainei sixna ena 206 na steketai dipla se mia ferari.

Omos stous diskous, ta sonata arctica px trexoun dipla stous stratovarius, kai ok XANOUN, alla stekontai aksioprepestata kai as einai oles oi kithares tous grammenes se SB live player.

Fisika an afto sinevaine mia fora mporei na itan apli simptosi, alla otan simvainei toses polles fores den einai simptosi.

Kai apo ti stigmi pou me mia SB mporeis aneta na ixografiseis tis kithares sou kai na eisai apsogos (an ksereis pos fisika) kai na vgaleis disko pou poulaei 100.000 komatia, tora OXI AFTO DEN ANOIKEI STIN KATIGORIA TOU ERASITEXNIKOU RECORDING.

[necropethamenos]

Kai apo ti stigmi pou me mia SB mporeis aneta na ixografiseis tis kithares sou kai na eisai apsogos (an ksereis pos fisika) kai na vgaleis disko pou poulaei 100.000 komatia, tora OXI AFTO DEN ANOIKEI STIN KATIGORIA TOU ERASITEXNIKOU RECORDING.


ma to theo, min ertheis ellada, tha se varesw molis se dw.

[katwrimos]

tha mou klaseis tarxidia opos panta, giati an me vareseis den tha se taiso :D


Edit: btw sigrine tis kithares tou Arctic Inside (pou graftikan me tin gt3 mou kai mia sound blaster) me tis kithares tou Evil Her (pou graftikan me to sansamp sou kai tin oxi SB tou galiatsou). I rest my case.