Serial ATA question

[Deggial]

Δεδομένου πως θέλω να κάνω αναβάθμιση, αλλά δεν ασχολούμαι καθόλου με τις τελευταίες εξελίξεις, έχω την εξής απορία:

Έχω, αυτή τη στιγμή, Giga-Byte 7VTXE με Athlon και ATA 100 (2 x UDMA ATA 66/100 bus master IDE ports on board). Επειδή θα πάρω Intel αυτή τη φορά (πολύ καλύτερες επιδόσεις από Athlon 64), αναγκαστικώς θα αλλάξω και μητρική.

Όταν λέει μια μητρική πως έχει Serial ATA, θα υποστηρίζει τους σκληρούς μου ή είναι κάτι εντελώς διαφορετικό; Ή υπάρχει υποστήριξη τόσο για παλιούς IDE όσο και SATA σε αυτές τις μητρικές;

[cloud]

ναι.

[Deggial]

Thanx. :D

[BLiTzER]

ASUS P4C800-E DELUXE :P

Oi IDE thyres paramenoun sth thesh tous, apla exoun prostethei 2 S-ATA.

[The Nerd]

Abit AS8 "3rd Eye"

[BLiTzER]

H dikh mou einai ligo palia (kamia 2etia), alla ta spaei.

[wanker]

loipon oi perissoteres mobo gia 775 DEN exoun yposthri3h IDE
yparxoun polles omws pou exoun 1 MONO slot gia IDE

opote prosexe

[BLiTzER]

Ego milousa gia 478. Opoios pairnei 775 apo tora einai giatompoutso :P

[The Nerd]

loipon oi perissoteres mobo gia 775 DEN exoun yposthri3h IDE
yparxoun polles omws pou exoun 1 MONO slot gia IDE

opote prosexe
Gia ayto pare thn dikia moy thn Abit

[BLiTzER]

H exei lefta gia petama.

[wanker]

[zER]Ego milousa gia 478. Opoios pairnei 775 apo tora einai giatompoutso :P
same

[Dunadan Ranger]

8a pw thn empeiria mou me serial ATA kai den lew tipota allo

exw ASUS A7V8X

phre tis proalles ena plextor dvdr me serial ata

to sundesa kai tipota apolytws ...en telh mou kahke to trofodotiko.

ennoeite pws alla3a amesws to dvdr...

genikotera oti exw akousei gia serial ata den einai kalo...ayta

[BLiTzER]

Ego exo ena SG 200arh, htan h proth mou epafh me s-ata (den eixa kamia apolytos idea.. den iksera kan oti exoun diaforetiko kalodio trofodosias), ton esthsa paneykola kai douleyei apsoga.

Epishs h m/b mou den ysterei se kanenan apolytos tomea (pera apo to cpu "socket") apo thn (arketa neoterh ypotheto) tou nerd. Mhn po oti thn exei kiolas :P

[wanker]

pws einai dynaton oi seiriakoi na mhn einai kaloi, k pleon naxoun stamathsei na vgazoune ide (pou leei o logos) k na trwne anavta oi serial

[The Nerd]

[zER]Ego exo ena SG 200arh, htan h proth mou epafh me s-ata (den eixa kamia apolytos idea.. den iksera kan oti exoun diaforetiko kalodio trofodosias), ton esthsa paneykola kai douleyei apsoga.

Epishs h m/b mou den ysterei se kanenan apolytos tomea (pera apo to cpu "socket") apo thn (arketa neoterh ypotheto) tou nerd. Mhn po oti thn exei kiolas :P

Oi Abit einai oi Porsche twn Mobo, oi Asus ante kammia BMW (kai mexri 735, oxi parapanw kyvika)

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

ΛΕΓΚΑΣΗ ΦΡΗ - ΤΖΑΜΠΕΡ ΦΡΗ (re mounia!)

Petaxte ta floppy, kapste ta ide, ksilwste ta mobo me parallhles/seiriakes. :D

Anyway, h dikia mou empeiria me sata einai thetikotath. 200arhs seagate gia "apothikh", parallhla me enan 80arh wd ide me to leitourgiko etc..
Xtypaei o WD, xtypaw egw 2 raptor, kavlwnw apistefta giati ta exw se raid, pou shmainei oti ta ide kanalia mou kselafrwnoun kai kathe syskevh (dvd k dvdr) einai master k oi dyo. Makari na ta pisia na ginoun oloklhrwtika legacy free to syntomotero. :roll: :thumbsup:

[The Nerd]

ΛΕΓΚΑΣΗ ΦΡΗ - ΤΖΑΜΠΕΡ ΦΡΗ (re mounia!)

Petaxte ta floppy, kapste ta ide, ksilwste ta mobo me parallhles/seiriakes. :D

Anyway, h dikia mou empeiria me sata einai thetikotath. 200arhs seagate gia "apothikh", parallhla me enan 80arh wd ide me to leitourgiko etc..
Xtypaei o WD, xtypaw egw 2 raptor, kavlwnw apistefta giati ta exw se raid, pou shmainei oti ta ide kanalia mou kselafrwnoun kai kathe syskevh (dvd k dvdr) einai master k oi dyo. Makari na ta pisia na ginoun oloklhrwtika legacy free to syntomotero. :roll: :thumbsup:

apla grafeis treles malakies ....

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Forum ston Rwxamh

[desosav]

abit ic7 max3 6 sata!!!

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

abit ic7 max3 6 sata!!!

ΦΑΚ ΓΙΕΑ

[BLiTzER]

apla grafeis treles malakies ....

Oute ego polykatalava :P

EDIT: Ah mallon ennoouse oti xtyphse o sklhros tou kai phre 2 s-ata? En to metaksy, EXEIS S-ATA KAI XONEIS TO LEITOURGIKO SE IDE? Aparadektos. De thelo na se ksero. Epishs gia poio logo na exeis 2 master syskeyes kai kamia slave? Goustareis parapano kalodia? :P

Kai epishs, thelo epixeirhmata sxetika me thn abit. Pera apo o/c issues, ta opoia de metrane :P TORA!

[desosav]

abit ic7 max3 6 sata!!!

ΦΑΚ ΓΙΕΑ

kai xoris paraliles thires kai malakies!!!afta ine!!!

[The Nerd]

[zER][quote="The Nerd":2q3unc56]
apla grafeis treles malakies ....

Oute ego polykatalava :P

EDIT: Ah mallon ennoouse oti xtyphse o sklhros tou kai phre 2 s-ata? En to metaksy, EXEIS S-ATA KAI XONEIS TO LEITOURGIKO SE IDE? Aparadektos. De thelo na se ksero. Epishs gia poio logo na exeis 2 master syskeyes kai kamia slave? Goustareis parapano kalodia? :P

Kai epishs, thelo epixeirhmata sxetika me thn abit. Pera apo o/c issues, ta opoia de metrane :P TORA![/quote:2q3unc56]

Hum, ta PETYXHMENA O/C features einai poy plhrwneis sthn Abit (opws kai h poiothta kataskeyhs).

[BLiTzER]

To ksero gi'ayto ta apekleisa apo thn arxh, gia na paizo xoris antipalo.

ASUS RE MOUNI \m/_ (btw exei POLLA extras)

[desosav]

@The_Nerd:EXACTLY!!!!!

[BLiTzER]

AN THES O/C NA MATHEIS NA TO KANEIS MONOS SOU. OXI NA TO KANEI H M/B. PALIOWINXP USERS.

[TheHeartcollector]

Ego me serial ata vrika tin isixia mou pados...evala ena s-ata controller se mia pci thura kai exo enan Maxtor 120gb kai enan 10ari IDE gia to litourgiko.
Kserei kaneis an ginete na valo to litourgiko ston s-ata?Meso tou controller de nomizo na ginete...i mipos nai?

[desosav]

:loco:

[BLiTzER]

Shmeiosh (giati mallon to yiotheteite polloi): einai TOULAXISTON TRAGIKO na vazeis to leitourgiko ston pio palio/argo sklhro. Egklhmatiko.

@HC: an exei tetoio option (gia na bootarei apo kei) h m/b sou, giati oxi? Xlomo men, alla den ksero standar. Psakse to bios sou.

[The Nerd]

Ego me serial ata vrika tin isixia mou pados...evala ena s-ata controller se mia pci thura kai exo enan Maxtor 120gb kai enan 10ari IDE gia to litourgiko.
Kserei kaneis an ginete na valo to litourgiko ston s-ata?Meso tou controller de nomizo na ginete...i mipos nai?

Nai, an exeis disk drive (patas F3 sto install twn XP kai xwneis to driver)

@poytser: Ti shmasia exei to OS? To O/C einai O/C (kai sto xwrio moy apo to BIOS to kanan gia arxh, esy pws to kaneis?)

[desosav]

plaka plaka kai sto diko mou apo to bios to kanoune!!!

[BLiTzER]

@poytser: Ti shmasia exei to OS? To O/C einai O/C (kai sto xwrio moy apo to BIOS to kanan gia arxh, esy pws to kaneis?)

Apla sixainomai ta xp kai theoro koulous tous users tou. Ti thes tora? e?Ee?EE?e?

Ego den kano o/c. Mou xalaei thn eggyhsh.

[The Nerd]

[zER][quote="The Nerd":1nq53c06]
@poytser: Ti shmasia exei to OS? To O/C einai O/C (kai sto xwrio moy apo to BIOS to kanan gia arxh, esy pws to kaneis?)

Apla sixainomai ta xp kai theoro koulous tous users tou. Ti thes tora? e?Ee?EE?e?

Ego den kano o/c. Mou xalaei thn eggyhsh.[/quote:1nq53c06]

Tsampoyka re poysth!!!!!!

Ti ennoeis OC me to xeri?

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

[zER]
EDIT: Ah mallon ennoouse oti xtyphse o sklhros tou kai phre 2 s-ata? En to metaksy, EXEIS S-ATA KAI XONEIS TO LEITOURGIKO SE IDE? Aparadektos. De thelo na se ksero.

Stin arxh eixa ton 80arh Ide. Meta pira ton sata ton 200arh. Xtypaei o 80arhs, pernw 2 WD raptor 72aria kai ta vazw se raid. Aplon.


[zER]
Epishs gia poio logo na exeis 2 master syskeyes kai kamia slave? Goustareis parapano kalodia? :P

Gia na kopiarw dvd on-the-fly grigorotera apo sena. Ta kalwdia einai prosextika krymena, giati to kouti mou exei parathyri ston kosmo.

[BLiTzER]

Den kano leme. Toulaxiston to neo mou den to xo peiraksei. To prosexo. Mono thn karta grafikon.

Alla afou rotas, teleytaia fora pou to ekana htan me jumperakia kai me s370-to-slot1 adaptoraki :P

@Eric: Still tha protimousa ligotera kalodia. /me akatastatos.

[wanker]

anyway h texnologia doulevei gia mas

opoios thn akolou8ei (se logika plaisia) den vgainei xamenos
(oute kan se xrhmata)

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

[zER]

@Eric: Still tha protimousa ligotera kalodia. /me akatastatos.

KAI LETSOS KAI AKATASTATOS :?

[Deggial]

Οκ, με λίγα λόγια παίρνω μητρική με socket 478, μάλλον ASUS ή Abit.

[cloud]

οι asus γαμάνε abits.
(εκτός αν είσαι hardcore overclocker, οπότε παίρνεις epox :p)

[wanker]

siga tis epox

nta3 diavazw tosa site, den milaw ek peiras, POU8ENA DEN EXW DEI epox

mono abit&asus k ligo yperterei h abit

(den exw kamia aptis 2 mobo :P)

[wanker]

Οκ, με λίγα λόγια παίρνω μητρική με socket 478, μάλλον ASUS ή Abit.

egw proteinw 775 pantws

[Deggial]

Οκ, με λίγα λόγια παίρνω μητρική με socket 478, μάλλον ASUS ή Abit.

egw proteinw 775 pantws

Αφού έγραψες:

loipon oi perissoteres mobo gia 775 DEN exoun yposthri3h IDE
yparxoun polles omws pou exoun 1 MONO slot gia IDE

κι εγώ θέλω να κρατήσω τους σκληρούς μου, τουλάχιστον προς το παρόν.

[desosav]

i max3 exi 6 sata kai IDE!!

[wanker]

Οκ, με λίγα λόγια παίρνω μητρική με socket 478, μάλλον ASUS ή Abit.

egw proteinw 775 pantws

Αφού έγραψες:

loipon oi perissoteres mobo gia 775 DEN exoun yposthri3h IDE
yparxoun polles omws pou exoun 1 MONO slot gia IDE

κι εγώ θέλω να κρατήσω τους σκληρούς μου, τουλάχιστον προς το παρόν.

ma an exei 1 estw slot gia ide xwneis mesa 2
ektos k an exeis parapano, k tograpses kapou k den toda :)

[Deggial]

Κάτσε ρε... έχει 1 IDE Slot, άρα συνδέονται 2 συσκευές (master/slave). Επιπλέον, ωστόσο, υπάρχει το DVD και CD-R, επίσης IDE συσκευές, άρα χρειάζομαι 2 IDE slots.

[wanker]

my fault :P

[desosav]

socket 478 IC7 MAX3 (http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?DEFTITLE=Y&fMTYPE=Socket%20478&pMODEL_NAME=IC7-MAX3)

2 ide
6 sata

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

socket 478 IC7 MAX3 (http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?DEFTITLE=Y&fMTYPE=Socket%20478&pMODEL_NAME=IC7-MAX3)

2 ide
6 sata

kai ola afta se xartonenio kouti pou grafei Abit :D

[desosav]

socket 478 IC7 MAX3 (http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?DEFTITLE=Y&fMTYPE=Socket%20478&pMODEL_NAME=IC7-MAX3)

2 ide
6 sata

kai ola afta se xartonenio kouti pou grafei Abit :D

akoma kai to kouti ine apithano!!!! :D

[BLiTzER]

Οκ, με λίγα λόγια παίρνω μητρική με socket 478, μάλλον ASUS ή Abit.

To thema einai oikonomiko. An pareis 775, tha "anagkasteis" na pareis kai pci-e mobo kai pci-e grafikon kai ddr2 mnhmes.

Me ta idia (akoma kai me ligotera) lefta, pairneis ena safos anotero systhma vasismeno se 478.

Mhn ksexnas oti to 775 einai POLY prosfato kai tha kanei arketo kairo mexri na eisxorhsei gia ta kala sthn agora. Ase pou den prosferei kai tpt parapano apo thn prohgoumenh texnologia. Ego phra ypologisth prin 2 mhnes kai protimhsa enan klassiko Prescott sta 3.2 kai xtypaei kai 65 fps sto d3. Me ATI malista.. pou na eixa kai GF :P

Des th mobo mou edo: http://uk.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-e_d/overview.htm . Vasismenh sto 875P ths intel. Exei otidhpote mporei na xreiasteis + mpolika extras/accessories sto kouti.

[Deggial]

Ναι, την κοίταξα πριν. Μάλλον προς αυτή σκοπεύω, αλλά αυτό θα εξαρτηθεί από το ποσό που θα είμαι σε θέση να διαθέσω.

[Deggial]

Άλλη μια βασική ερώτηση που ξέχασα... η αλλαγή μητρικής και επεξεργαστή (από Athlon 1.4Ghz σε Pentium 4 3.2Ghz κατά πάσα πιθανότητα) σημαίνει και αναγκαία αλλαγή τροφοδοτικού ή μπορώ να κρατήσω αυτό που έχω;

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Ti psu exeis?

[Deggial]

psu = ?

[The Nerd]

psu = ?

POWER SUPPLY UNIT - TO TROFODOTIKO POY LEME

[Deggial]

Ένα 300 Watt.

[The Nerd]

Ένα 300 Watt.
Peta to kai pare ena epwnymo apo 400W kai panw (idiaitera ama exeis radeon)

[Deggial]

Will do then.

[BLiTzER]

Ayto pou eipe o Nerd. Sthn arxh dld, giati sto telos diafono :P

Idiaitera an exeis gf tha elega. Oi radeon den exoun toso megales apaithseis.

Btw, h allagh cpu kai mobo itself de shmainei anagkaia allagh trofodotikou. Apla oi taxyteres cpu kai EIDIKA oi sygxrones kartes grafikon (pou exoun ftasei na syndeontai apeytheias sto psu) trone perissotero reyma, opote..

Anyway, to 300 einai sigoura to minimum (gia tis neoteres ati.. gia nvidia oute gia plaka), opote kalo einai na pareis kati megalytero. Ego exo 550 kai einai yperarketo. Alla to vrhka fthna.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

Mia ypodeiksh, an theleis kati kalo alla -sxetika- oikonomiko, einai to Tagan to 480, gyrw stin 100ara exei. Den einai kai true control, alla spernei. Mia pou tha ftiakseis kainourio systhma, min tsigkounefteis sto psu, imo.

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

[zER] Ego exo 550 kai einai yperarketo. Alla to vrhka fthna.

To noumeraki den leei tipota.-
Antitheta, to varos ta leei ola. :wink:

[BLiTzER]

Ye symfono.

Thes na to zygiso? :P

Exo dvd, dvdrw, 1 s-ata, 2 ide, x800 xt pe kai prescott sta 3.2. Den exo antimetopisei to paramikro provlhma. Kai einai diafano kai exei kai 200 ledakia pano kai einai kayla.

Kai zhleyeis :P

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

[zER]

Kai zhleyeis :P


Oxi omws. :)

[wanker]

to tagan 480W gamaei to syban

[Eric Theodore Cartman]

to tagan 480W gamaei to syban

ksereis apo mpala :thumbsup:

epeishs:


to tagan 480W gamaei tin papariA tou blitzer

:D :D :D

[wanker]

xaxaxa

otidhpote gamaei ton blitz k th pantofla tou :twisted: