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The Nerd
07-12-2004, 03:22
Ti protimate?
(mono gia kammenoys)
http://www.bf109.com/gallery/favourites/gall04favemed.jpg
http://www.vectorsite.net/avfw190-1.jpg
When Black Roses Bloom
07-12-2004, 03:23
Hugh?
The Nerd
07-12-2004, 03:25
Hugh?
8elw na dw posoi 8a to piasoyn (den perimenw na to piasei kanas allos plhn toy angra)
president
07-12-2004, 04:24
262 :wink:
When Black Roses Bloom
07-12-2004, 04:30
262 :wink:
Ti malakas, twra to katalaba. Xalara 262. kai to Night Version me ta skopeytika sto rugxos.
The Nerd
07-12-2004, 08:52
262 :wink:
Ti malakas, twra to katalaba. Xalara 262. kai to Night Version me ta skopeytika sto rugxos.
:moutza:
Magkes, sorry ama sas th spaw alla to 262 den metrage oso nomizete... Mexri na parei ypsos/taxythta htan sxetika eykolh leia...
Pso mallon to night version me to extra varos gia radar/skopeytika (eixe kai 2o atomo nomizw)
The_Painless
07-12-2004, 10:04
Psofaw! Forum sta Messerschmitt (twra)!
Plaka plaka degkanete ena thread gia polemika aeroskafh? Sugxrona omws. Miam.
P.S.: 109 btw.
The Nerd
07-12-2004, 10:15
Psofaw! Forum sta Messerschmitt (twra)!
Plaka plaka degkanete ena thread gia polemika aeroskafh? Sugxrona omws. Miam.
P.S.: 109 btw.
Gia poio logo?
The_Painless
07-12-2004, 10:25
Giati einai pxio kalt :p
Giati gamouse se ola ta upsh ki ekane duskolh th zwh sta spitfiria einai enas kalos logos i guess.
The Nerd
07-12-2004, 10:29
Giati einai pxio kalt :p
Giati gamouse se ola ta upsh ki ekane duskolh th zwh sta spitfiria einai enas kalos logos i guess.
!!!!
Apopse gennh8hke enas megalos erwtas ....
When Black Roses Bloom
08-12-2004, 03:16
[quote=president]262 :wink:
Ti malakas, twra to katalaba. Xalara 262. kai to Night Version me ta skopeytika sto rugxos.
:moutza:
Magkes, sorry ama sas th spaw alla to 262 den metrage oso nomizete... Mexri na parei ypsos/taxythta htan sxetika eykolh leia...
Pso mallon to night version me to extra varos gia radar/skopeytika (eixe kai 2o atomo nomizw)[/quote:eyiqvhmm]
Sta papargia mou, eixe kalutero stulaki omws. Enw to 109 htan iptameno feretro. Episis Ta-183 . Krima pou den petakse pote ston polemo.
The Nerd
08-12-2004, 03:33
[quote="When_Black_Roses_Bloom":22p1t14x][quote=president]262 :wink:
Ti malakas, twra to katalaba. Xalara 262. kai to Night Version me ta skopeytika sto rugxos.
:moutza:
Magkes, sorry ama sas th spaw alla to 262 den metrage oso nomizete... Mexri na parei ypsos/taxythta htan sxetika eykolh leia...
Pso mallon to night version me to extra varos gia radar/skopeytika (eixe kai 2o atomo nomizw)[/quote:22p1t14x]
Sta papargia mou, eixe kalutero stulaki omws. Enw to 109 htan iptameno feretro. Episis Ta-183 . Krima pou den petakse pote ston polemo.[/quote:22p1t14x]
To 109 den htan me thn kammia iptameno feretro (gia 190 den syzhtame kan). Ta-152 soy leei kati?
(koita poy ola ta history geeks fanerwnomaste siga siga)
When Black Roses Bloom
08-12-2004, 03:38
Sumpa8htiko (kai grhgoro an den kanw la8os), alla koinotupo. Den kserw, alla den me en8ousiasan pote ta aeroplana xwris tis austhres gwnies (opws p.x. to BF 109 me to tetragwno kaluma sto rugxos gia ta polubola). Enw to tetragwno Ju 87 :P An kai tromera argo, gia oso krathse htan o fobos kai o tromos.
The Nerd
08-12-2004, 03:45
Sumpa8htiko (kai grhgoro an den kanw la8os), alla koinotupo. Den kserw, alla den me en8ousiasan pote ta aeroplana xwris tis austhres gwnies (opws p.x. to BF 109 me to tetragwno kaluma sto rugxos gia ta polubola). Enw to tetragwno Ju 87 :P An kai tromera argo, gia oso krathse htan o fobos kai o tromos.
Gia 190 pws kai den eisai fan? Gia mena to 190 htan to kalytero aeroskafos ston deytero pagkosmio (kai ena apo ta kalytera aeroskafh politika h stratiwtika pote). H seira A htan polymorfikh (to idio aeroskafos ekane gia fighter/heavy interceptor/Jabo (ground attack), torpiloplano (!!!) ) enw h seira D apla einai ena ergo texnhs...
Epishs otan skasane myth epixeirisiaka ta prwta A4, oi agglares prosgeiwsan ta aeroskafh toys (Spitfire MkV) logw twn e3wfrenikwn apwleiwn poy eixan.
To Ju-87 eixe styl alla to divebombing apaitoyse aeroporikh yperoxh, thn opoia den eixan ta Germana apo to 1943 kai meta. (Gia pure ground attack P47 kai IL-2/IL-10). Btw, h3eres oti h seirhna htan ka8ara gia psyxologikoys logoys?
A4 gamane. Eidika to 1.8T Q ta spaei.
The Nerd
08-12-2004, 03:48
[zER]A4 gamane. Eidika to 1.8T Q ta spaei. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
When Black Roses Bloom
08-12-2004, 03:49
[quote="When_Black_Roses_Bloom":3p9a5rkm]Sumpa8htiko (kai grhgoro an den kanw la8os), alla koinotupo. Den kserw, alla den me en8ousiasan pote ta aeroplana xwris tis austhres gwnies (opws p.x. to BF 109 me to tetragwno kaluma sto rugxos gia ta polubola). Enw to tetragwno Ju 87 :P An kai tromera argo, gia oso krathse htan o fobos kai o tromos.
Gia 190 pws kai den eisai fan? Gia mena to 190 htan to kalytero aeroskafos ston deytero pagkosmio (kai ena apo ta kalytera aeroskafh politika h stratiwtika pote). H seira A htan polymorfikh (to idio aeroskafos ekane gia fighter/heavy interceptor/Jabo (ground attack), torpiloplano (!!!) ) enw h seira D apla einai ena ergo texnhs...
Epishs otan skasane myth epixeirisiaka ta prwta A4, oi agglares prosgeiwsan ta aeroskafh toys (Spitfire MkV) logw twn e3wfrenikwn apwleiwn poy eixan.
To Ju-87 eixe styl alla to divebombing apaitoyse aeroporikh yperoxh, thn opoia den eixan ta Germana apo to 1943 kai meta. (Gia pure ground attack P47 kai IL-2/IL-10). Btw, h3eres oti h seirhna htan ka8ara gia psyxologikoys logoys?[/quote:3p9a5rkm]
Yup. Kai sunh8ws, enw bazan mono sto ena skelos, poloi pilotoi pros8esan kai deyterh gia megalutero 8orubo. Epishs, hkseres oti sthn arxh eixan problhma me tous pilotous, logw ka8eths eformishs? Dexotan o pilotos olh thn piesh sto sth8os, kai espagan ta pneumonia tou apo ta pola G. Kai etsi, topo8ethsan guroskopiko ka8isma, to opoio erxotan se or8ia 8esh kata thn ka8eto eformish, kai dexotan apla thn piesh sta podia. :P
The Nerd
08-12-2004, 03:51
[quote="The Nerd":34t86q67][quote="When_Black_Roses_Bloom":34t86q67]Sumpa8htiko (kai grhgoro an den kanw la8os), alla koinotupo. Den kserw, alla den me en8ousiasan pote ta aeroplana xwris tis austhres gwnies (opws p.x. to BF 109 me to tetragwno kaluma sto rugxos gia ta polubola). Enw to tetragwno Ju 87 :P An kai tromera argo, gia oso krathse htan o fobos kai o tromos.
Gia 190 pws kai den eisai fan? Gia mena to 190 htan to kalytero aeroskafos ston deytero pagkosmio (kai ena apo ta kalytera aeroskafh politika h stratiwtika pote). H seira A htan polymorfikh (to idio aeroskafos ekane gia fighter/heavy interceptor/Jabo (ground attack), torpiloplano (!!!) ) enw h seira D apla einai ena ergo texnhs...
Epishs otan skasane myth epixeirisiaka ta prwta A4, oi agglares prosgeiwsan ta aeroskafh toys (Spitfire MkV) logw twn e3wfrenikwn apwleiwn poy eixan.
To Ju-87 eixe styl alla to divebombing apaitoyse aeroporikh yperoxh, thn opoia den eixan ta Germana apo to 1943 kai meta. (Gia pure ground attack P47 kai IL-2/IL-10). Btw, h3eres oti h seirhna htan ka8ara gia psyxologikoys logoys?[/quote:34t86q67]
Yup. Kai sunh8ws, enw bazan mono sto ena skelos, poloi pilotoi pros8esan kai deyterh gia megalutero 8orubo. Epishs, hkseres oti sthn arxh eixan problhma me tous pilotous, logw ka8eths eformishs? Dexotan o pilotos olh thn piesh sto sth8os, kai espagan ta pneumonia tou apo ta pola G. Kai etsi, topo8ethsan guroskopiko ka8isma, to opoio erxotan se or8ia 8esh kata thn ka8eto eformish, kai dexotan apla thn piesh sta podia. :P[/quote:34t86q67]
5G etrwge kata meso oro kai den htan akrivws gyroskopiko ka8isma, kati me th 8esh epaize kai th stolh. Ayto htan kalo alla ekane to bail out e3wfrenika dyskolo, kati to opoio an odhgages stuka htan 8ema epiviwshs (apo thn allh isws kai oxi an katw se perimene o Ivan kai h treloparea toy apo thn NKVD (h KGB tote))
When Black Roses Bloom
08-12-2004, 03:56
an katw se perimene o Ivan kai h treloparea toy apo thn NKVD (h KGB tote))
ahhahahhaa
Plaka sthn plaka, mou eixe pei o pappous mou (8eos xwreston) oti eixan kataripsei ena Stuka sto Albaniko metwpo, to opoio, den katafere na prolabei na shkwsei thn koilia tou prin pesei kai karfw8hke - kuriolektika - se ena xwrafi, me to rugxos. To aeroplano den anatinaxtike pote, to xwrafi kapnize gia mia bdomada meta thn ptwsh omws. (asxeto to olo 8ema). An eixan bgalei ta BF prwta, pisteyeis oti den 8a trwgan nila sthn Agglia? Kai oti o Tswrtsil 8a eixe parei to pouli?
The Nerd
08-12-2004, 04:13
an katw se perimene o Ivan kai h treloparea toy apo thn NKVD (h KGB tote))
ahhahahhaa
Plaka sthn plaka, mou eixe pei o pappous mou (8eos xwreston) oti eixan kataripsei ena Stuka sto Albaniko metwpo, to opoio, den katafere na prolabei na shkwsei thn koilia tou prin pesei kai karfw8hke - kuriolektika - se ena xwrafi, me to rugxos. To aeroplano den anatinaxtike pote, to xwrafi kapnize gia mia bdomada meta thn ptwsh omws. (asxeto to olo 8ema). An eixan bgalei ta BF prwta, pisteyeis oti den 8a trwgan nila sthn Agglia? Kai oti o Tswrtsil 8a eixe parei to pouli?
Loipon peri maxhs agglias:
An eixan tote ta FW190 toys eixan gamhsei...(Bf/Me-109 yphrxan apo to 1936, ta prwta montela ths seiras E dokimasthkan sthn Ispania). Ta 109 htan ka8ara epi8etika aeroskafh, eprepe na exoyn parapanw energeia (eite dynamikh eite kinhtikh) gia na antepe3el8oyn. Ws escort fighters den elegan polla (dhladh xwris avantaz energeias, to opoio to exanan kai logw toy radar, afoy oi agglares proevlepan kai eixan panta aeroskafh se paremferes energy state). kai epishs den eixa polla kaysima (15 lepta epixeirhsiaka panw apo agglia). Mia leptomereia poy den 3erei o polys kosmos: Oi aggloi exasan PIO POLLA aeroskafh apo toys germanoys sthn maxh ths agglias (eidika ta Hurricane epeftan sa myges (Phgh: Adolf Galland)), kati to opoio epalh8eyetai ama sygkrineis confirmed apwleies kai apo tis 2 parata3eis (oi agglares eixan 3:1 overestimation)). H emmonh omws toy Goering sth xrhsh toy BF-110 ws maxhtikoy + h apofash toy Megaloy (toy moystakia dhladh) na vomvardisei londino anti na synexisei tis epi8eseis toy kata ths RAF sth notia agglia pi8anws na toy stoixisan th maxh. Epishs, h elleipsh strategic bomber apo th meria twn germanwn dysxerene kata poly thn epitey3h aytoy toy stoxoy.
Pantws se sxhmatismoys/texnologia/pilotoys ta germana toys eixan poly xalara.
OFF TOPIC: endiaferetai kanas allos na milhsoyme gia to ti pragmatika egine sthn ellada 1940-1941 na anoi3w thread sto politics?
When Black Roses Bloom
08-12-2004, 04:34
Anoikse na sunexisoume ekei. Oso gia to upoloipo post 8a apanthsw se ligo.
When Black Roses Bloom
08-12-2004, 04:37
Epishs oi "uperkatastrofikoi" kai "uperopla" purauloi V-2 ousiastika htan perissotero effe, para ekanan zhmia. Alla tromokratisan (psilo) tous Agglous sto Londino. Pantws eixe fagw8ei kai me autous kai me tous Rwsous.
The Nerd
08-12-2004, 04:41
Epishs oi "uperkatastrofikoi" kai "uperopla" purauloi V-2 ousiastika htan perissotero effe, para ekanan zhmia. Alla tromokratisan (psilo) tous Agglous sto Londino. Pantws eixe fagw8ei kai me autous kai me tous Rwsous.
Oi V-1 kai V-2 hr8an poly meta... Epishs an ta germana eixan pyrhnika 8a ta eixan skasei pisteyw (toylaxiston soys rwssoys). Xhmika eixan alla den ta xrhsimopoihsan pote giati eixan kai oi Symmaxoi kai fovotan oti 8a eixan antipoina (oi amerikanoi rangers thn D-Day eixan antiasfy3iogona maska kai anixneyth aeriwn ws standard issue gia ayto to logo).
[zER]A4 gamane. Eidika to 1.8T Q ta spaei.
ela na se paw volta kammia fora totenes :P
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