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wraithmare
05-12-2004, 21:55
...ok, οι περισσότεροι εδώ μέσα έχουν το "στίγμα" του μεταλλά...αλλά....ο καιρός περνά και τα γούστα αλλάζουν (ή, καλύτερα, οι ανάγκες)
Σε 10 χρόνια από τώρα τι πιστεύετε ότι θα ακούτε; Θα παραμείνετε τρου, θα το γυρίσετε σε σκυλέ, θα γίνετε τρέντυ (της εποχής τρέντς, λέμε), θα το γυρίσετε στην κλασσική ροκ, τι;
Πείτε.
Άντε.
_UnHoLyMaRtYr_
05-12-2004, 22:01
Metal Discussion?
Tonosalata
05-12-2004, 22:03
egw eimai post metalas edw kai kairo opote... :P
egw eimai post metalas edw kai kairo
same here
ConJoined Thighs
05-12-2004, 22:08
egw den thelw na valw ton eafto mou mesa stous metallades.
einai oloi aplitoi eleeinoi ginekotoi malliades :P
pera apo thn plaka,akouw mousikh oxi gia na perasw kala,ma gia na niwsw kapoia sinesthimata,na zhsw.
Otan (logw ilikias,px)papsw na exw anagh aftou tou eidous ta sinesthimata,isws na to kopsw.MA ws tote... :headbang:
freak brother
05-12-2004, 22:17
egw eimai post metalas edw kai kairo opote... :P
Angrafan
05-12-2004, 22:21
HDH PLISIAZW TA 10 XRONIA POU AKOUW TA IDIA PRAMATA PISTEVW OTI SE 10 XRONIA PALI TA IDIA THA AKOUW
enitharmon
05-12-2004, 22:29
HDH PLISIAZW TA 10 XRONIA POU AKOUW TA IDIA PRAMATA PISTEVW OTI SE 10 XRONIA PALI TA IDIA THA AKOUW
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eleventh guardian
05-12-2004, 22:31
HDH PLISIAZW TA 10 XRONIA POU AKOUW TA IDIA PRAMATA PISTEVW OTI SE 10 XRONIA PALI TA IDIA THA AKOUW
Κι εγώ.
freak brother
05-12-2004, 22:31
egw den xerw ti tha akouw oute sta epomena 10 lepta pantws
paraeiste katastalagmenoi.. gia xekolate ligo :D
Kveldssanger
05-12-2004, 22:43
egw den xerw ti tha akouw oute sta epomena 10 lepta pantws
necropethamenos
05-12-2004, 22:50
Egw pantws akouw akoma afta pou akouga alla akouw kai ta ypoloipa alla panta etsi ekana.
sas gamaw.
Ye kati tetoio. Ena atomo pou asxoleitai ligo parapano me th mousikh, peran tou aplou akousmatos gia to kefi kets, pisteyo den allazei gousta eykola. Apla ta dieyrynei.
eleventh guardian
05-12-2004, 23:11
Ακριβώς.
Kveldssanger
05-12-2004, 23:15
Κατά βάση αυτό συμβαίνει, αλλά δε θεωρώ τόσο απίθανο να πάψει να σε εκφράζει κάτι οπότε και να σταματήσει να σου αρέσει. Σίγουρα αλλάζεις και, μαζί σου, κατά κάποιον τρόπο αλλάζουν και τα γούστα σου...
Egrapsa 15 paragrafous, alla htan poly intellectual kai tis esvhsa, giati sthn telikh den akouo mono pragmata ta opoia exo melethsei se vathos kai blah blah blah. Kamia fora apla akous kai goustareis kai ekei einai h mageia.
Opote symfono mazi sou, symvainoun allages, apla den einai tragikes. Kai ayto ennoousa sto post mou.
eyeamflesch
05-12-2004, 23:54
META TO METAL TO NU.
Joey_Allen
06-12-2004, 00:12
Ti 8a pei meta to metal ti?An agapas kati alh8ina kai den to akouges gia na eisai kapios 8a synexiseis na to akous.Aplo.
εμένα πριν απο 9 χρόνια μου είπαν "έλα σε 10 χρόνια να μου πεις αν συνεχίζεις να ακούς Μέταλ"
του χρόνου δηλαδή θα τους το πω :D
Κι εγώ στη κλίκα των post metallers είμαι. Ακούω ακόμη (ειδικά τα μπλακάδικα), απλώς δεν ασχολούμαι με νέες κυκλοφορίες τα τελευταία 3 χρόνια. Αν κι απ'ό,τι παρατηρώ οι περισσότερες συζητήσεις είναι γύρω από μπάντες που ξέρω και είχαν γίνει σχετικά γνωστές όταν ασχολούμουν ακόμη.
Κατά τα άλλα, electro-gothιές rulz.
pitchfork
06-12-2004, 03:07
oti eipe o apo panw plus new wave kai dark genika
When Black Roses Bloom
06-12-2004, 03:29
Oti eipan oi apo panw sun ta Industrial kai genika parakmh fash pragmatakia :D
Oso uparxoun atoma opos merikoi er users den nomizw na stamatisw pote na akouw metal :dfinger:
bleeding
06-12-2004, 04:00
pegky zhna k ta myala sto mixxxxer!!!!
When Black Roses Bloom
06-12-2004, 04:01
Oso uparxoun atoma opos merikoi er users den nomizw na stamatisw pote na akouw metal :dfinger:
Wotan se blepw se merika xronia na akous Baggelh Perpiniadh kai Tasia Bera/Boula Palla/Efh 8wdh meta manias.
pshla sto index yparxoun 2 mousika forums. fxaristw.
on topic, de mou epivalw akousmata oute xarakthrismous.
Kingdom Gone
06-12-2004, 06:03
Oso uparxoun atoma opos merikoi er users den nomizw na stamatisw pote na akouw metal :dfinger:
th mousikh pou akoute (opoiadipote kai an einai afth) thn akoute gia ton eafto sas h gia tous allous?
AngelOfSorrow
06-12-2004, 10:08
apoti vlepw oi perisoteroi prwin rokades-simerinoi 40rides to exoun gyrisei se entexno i se jazz
proswpika pisteyw pws kai pali tha akouw metal,kai isws to gyrisw perisotero se palio rock.
sigoura pantws i mousiki pou tha akouw tha katatasetai se ayta pou simera thewrw poiotiki mousiki.
Oso uparxoun atoma opos merikoi er users den nomizw na stamatisw pote na akouw metal :dfinger:
Σε ευχαριστούμε για τον ιερό σου σκοπό.
psychotron
06-12-2004, 13:05
Σε 10 χρόνια από τώρα τι πιστεύετε ότι θα ακούτε; Θα παραμείνετε τρου, θα το γυρίσετε σε σκυλέ, θα γίνετε τρέντυ (της εποχής τρέντς, λέμε), θα το γυρίσετε στην κλασσική ροκ, τι;
meta apo 17-18 xronia idiwn akousmatwn, de nomizw oti se alla 10 xronia 8a xei allaksei kati.
AngelOfSorrow
06-12-2004, 13:08
θα το γυρίσετε σε σκυλέ
to skyle einai true
Silverwing
06-12-2004, 13:27
[zER]Ye kati tetoio. Ena atomo pou asxoleitai ligo parapano me th mousikh, peran tou aplou akousmatos gia to kefi kets, pisteyo den allazei gousta eykola. Apla ta dieyrynei.
Aυτό.Δεν χρειάζετε να σταματήσεις να ακούς metal, αν ταυτόχρονα ακούς και χίλια ακόμα είδη μουσικής.Απλά το metal είναι λατρεία.
necropethamenos
06-12-2004, 13:47
[quote="BLi][zER":1gztsjcx]Ye kati tetoio. Ena atomo pou asxoleitai ligo parapano me th mousikh, peran tou aplou akousmatos gia to kefi kets, pisteyo den allazei gousta eykola. Apla ta dieyrynei.
Aυτό.Δεν χρειάζετε να σταματήσεις να ακούς metal, αν ταυτόχρονα ακούς και χίλια ακόμα είδη μουσικής.Απλά το metal είναι λατρεία.[/quote:1gztsjcx]
ti wraia pou to etheses :)
Oso uparxoun atoma opos merikoi er users den nomizw na stamatisw pote na akouw metal :dfinger:
th mousikh pou akoute (opoiadipote kai an einai afth) thn akoute gia ton eafto sas h gia tous allous?
Oxi,apla to er mou dinei kouragio na sinexizw na akouw,giati skeftomai oti an paratisw to metal pote tha ginw san tin pleiopsifia edw mesa.
The Nerd
06-12-2004, 14:16
Oso uparxoun atoma opos merikoi er users den nomizw na stamatisw pote na akouw metal :dfinger:
th mousikh pou akoute (opoiadipote kai an einai afth) thn akoute gia ton eafto sas h gia tous allous?
Oxi,apla to er mou dinei kouragio na sinexizw na akouw,giati skeftomai oti an paratisw to metal pote tha ginw san tin pleiopsifia edw mesa.
Katse na vgaleis gkomenaki, na deis pws 8a phgaineis to Xatzhgiannh kai ton Alkinoo. Swro
Elpizw na min to pisteueis auto.
The Nerd
06-12-2004, 14:37
Elpizw na min to pisteueis auto.
Gia thn periptwsh soy, mallon to pisteyw ...
Raven Lord
06-12-2004, 16:59
δεν ξέρω τι θ'ακούω μετά από χρόνια... για την ώρα αυτά που ακούω προέρχονται κατά 90%-95% από το χώρο του metal και μάλιστα το συντριπτικό ποσοστό είναι "δοκιμασμένα" πράγματα, δηλαδή δεκατία '80 κυρίως και λίγα από '90 και '70.
κάποτε είχα ξεκινήσει ακούγοντας punk και λίγο εναλλακτική ροκ σκηνή και πολλοί -προφανώς άσχετοι από μουσική- με ρωτάνε πώς το γύρισα στο metal "αφού μεγαλώνοντας πρέπει να ωριμάζεις". πφφφ... στην αρχή κατανάλωνα ενέργεια προσπαθώντας να τους δώσω να καταλάβουν ότι κάποια μουσικά ιδιώματα έχουν πολύ μικρή "έκταση" με αποτέλεσμα να μη βρίσκεις αυτό που θες από κάποια στιγμή και μετά. το metal είναι πολύ πιο ευρύ με ατέλειωτα πράγματα που μπορείς να ψάξεις. τελοσπάντων, σε κάποια φάση κατάλαβα ότι ποτέ δεν "το γύρισα". απλά άκουγα πάντα ό,τι μου άρεσε και τα τελευταία 8-9 χρόνια, τα ακούσματα που μου αρέσουν προέρχονται από το χώρο του metal. τι θα γίνει αργότερα δεν το γνωρίζω...
asimoulis
06-12-2004, 17:15
META TO METAL TO NU.
:D
de goustaro na to paizw o metaloteros kai na lew oti tha akouw metal k se 10 xronia alla nomizw kai thelw na akouw..
pera apo thn plaka,akouw mousikh oxi gia na perasw kala,ma gia na niwsw kapoia sinesthimata,na zhsw.
egrapses file conjo...simfwnw apolyta mazi sou an k eisai gavros :D
δεν ξέρω τι θ'ακούω μετά από χρόνια... για την ώρα αυτά που ακούω προέρχονται κατά 90%-95% από το χώρο του metal και μάλιστα το συντριπτικό ποσοστό είναι "δοκιμασμένα" πράγματα, δηλαδή δεκατία '80 κυρίως και λίγα από '90 και '70.
κάποτε είχα ξεκινήσει ακούγοντας punk και λίγο εναλλακτική ροκ σκηνή και πολλοί -προφανώς άσχετοι από μουσική- με ρωτάνε πώς το γύρισα στο metal "αφού μεγαλώνοντας πρέπει να ωριμάζεις". πφφφ... στην αρχή κατανάλωνα ενέργεια προσπαθώντας να τους δώσω να καταλάβουν ότι κάποια μουσικά ιδιώματα έχουν πολύ μικρή "έκταση" με αποτέλεσμα να μη βρίσκεις αυτό που θες από κάποια στιγμή και μετά. το metal είναι πολύ πιο ευρύ με ατέλειωτα πράγματα που μπορείς να ψάξεις. τελοσπάντων, σε κάποια φάση κατάλαβα ότι ποτέ δεν "το γύρισα". απλά άκουγα πάντα ό,τι μου άρεσε και τα τελευταία 8-9 χρόνια, τα ακούσματα που μου αρέσουν προέρχονται από το χώρο του metal. τι θα γίνει αργότερα δεν το γνωρίζω...
Ma ela tora,afou sto metal an exeis akousei 5 group ta exeis akousei ola!!!!!!!
The Nerd :wstupid:
eleventh guardian
06-12-2004, 18:44
de goustaro na to paizw o metaloteros kai na lew oti tha akouw metal k se 10 xronia alla nomizw kai thelw na akouw..
Όσοι λέμε ότι θα ακούμε metal και ύστερα από 10 χρόνια, δεν είναι υποχρεωτικό ότι το παίζουμε «μεταλότεροι». Αυτό ισχύει για μένα, τουλάχιστον, που τα ακούσματά μου είναι metal σε ένα ποσοστό γύρω στο 70% (και σε καμιά περίπτωση τα γκρουπ που μ' αρέσουν δεν είναι ακραία, όπως πιθανόν θα έχετε αντιληφθεί). Οπότε, δεν νομίζω ότι θα είναι περίεργο να ακούω Fates ή Pain of Salvation ή και Μaiden ακόμη, στα 35 μου.
Η πιο σωστή κουβέντα απ' όσες γράφτηκαν είναι ότι μεγαλώνοντας διευρύνεις τους ορίζοντες σου. Για παράδειγμα, δεν ακούω πλέον τους Manowar με την ίδια μανία που τους άκουγα πριν 6-7 χρόνια, αλλά εξακολουθούν να μου αρέσουν. Γενικά, πιστεύω ότι αν γουστάρεις πραγματικά κάτι, σε μια φάση της ζωής σου, δεν το ξεγράφεις ποτέ στο μέλλον. Αν το κάνεις, σημαίνει μάλλον ότι δεν το γούσταρες ποτέ στην πραγματικότητα.
Τέρμα οι αμπελοφιλοσοφίες, συνεχίστε...
Γενικά, πιστεύω ότι αν γουστάρεις πραγματικά κάτι, σε μια φάση της ζωής σου, δεν το ξεγράφεις ποτέ στο μέλλον. Αν το κάνεις, σημαίνει μάλλον ότι δεν το γούσταρες ποτέ στην πραγματικότητα.
poly swsto...
:tup:
Witchkiller
06-12-2004, 19:09
Same good ol' shit
Same good ol' sound kai se 10+ xronia (mallon)
wraithmare
06-12-2004, 20:16
Katse na vgaleis gkomenaki, na deis pws 8a phgaineis to Xatzhgiannh kai ton Alkinoo. Swro
NEVER, EVER AGAIN. NEVER. :evil:
Γενικά, πιστεύω ότι αν γουστάρεις πραγματικά κάτι, σε μια φάση της ζωής σου, δεν το ξεγράφεις ποτέ στο μέλλον. Αν το κάνεις, σημαίνει μάλλον ότι δεν το γούσταρες ποτέ στην πραγματικότητα.
:roll: :roll:
Oxi vevaia,apolito dikio.
Amnesiac.
06-12-2004, 23:37
oute kan.
enitharmon
06-12-2004, 23:41
xmmm, otan sta 13-14 akouga nirvana (oli mera kathe mera to nevermind) m'aresane pragmatika
twra den mporw n'akousw
eleventh guardian
07-12-2004, 00:04
xmmm, otan sta 13-14 akouga nirvana (oli mera kathe mera to nevermind) m'aresane pragmatika
twra den mporw n'akousw
Ναι, καταλαβαίνω τι εννοείς. Όμως, νομίζω ότι κανενός ο χαρακτήρας δεν έχει διαμορφωθεί πλήρως στα 13 του. Ήταν άλλη φάση αυτή η ηλικία, ο άνθρωπος «ψάχνεται» ακόμη.
Τώρα όλοι έχουμε ωριμάσει. Και για να έχουμε κατασταλάξει σε κάποια πράγματα, όπως τα μουσικά γούστα, σημαίνει ότι έχει προηγηθεί μια διεργασία.
Και μένα μου άρεσαν στα 13-14 πράγματα για τα οποία τώρα αδιαφορώ. Σε δέκα χρόνια από σήμερα, όμως, δεν νομίζω να αλλάξω γούστα (εκτός πια κι αν πιθανός γάμος στο μέλλον φέρει τα πάνω-κάτω. Δεν ξέρω, δεν μπορώ να υποθέσω πόσο αλλάζει τη ζωή ενός ανθρώπου ένα τέτοιο γεγονός).
eyeamflesch
07-12-2004, 01:19
THA SAS EKAMA POST ME TO OPOIO THA EKSIGOYSA ME POLY OMORFA GIATI SYMFWNW ME TIN APOPSI POY SYMFWNA KI O WOTAN ALLA.
The Nerd
07-12-2004, 09:05
Metal 8a goystareis gia panta ....
Sarantis
07-12-2004, 16:31
Ego nomizo oti iparxei diafora anamesa sto na allaksoun ta akousmata sou sto mellon alla na akous pou kai pou ta palia (ayto den to apokleio gia mena) kai sto na allaksoun ta akousmata sou kai na apokirikseis ksafnika o,ti akouges os tote.
Ego akoma goustaro to 90% ton sigrotimaton pou akouga apo mikros - metal i oxi.
To mono pou exo apokiriksei einai oi 2Unlimited ktlp.. :lol: :lol:
eyeamflesch
07-12-2004, 16:54
Ego nomizo oti iparxei diafora anamesa sto na allaksoun ta akousmata sou sto mellon alla na akous pou kai pou ta palia (ayto den to apokleio gia mena) kai sto na allaksoun ta akousmata sou kai na apokirikseis ksafnika o,ti akouges os tote.
Ego akoma goustaro to 90% ton sigrotimaton pou akouga apo mikros - metal i oxi.
To mono pou exo apokiriksei einai oi 2Unlimited ktlp.. :lol: :lol:
YA KSANAKOU MERIKA DIAMANTIA TWN 2UNLIMITED KI ELA NA TO KSANAPEIS OTI TOYS APOKYRITTEIS. :twisted:
Akouw hdh panw apo 18 xronia kai kserw oti tha akouw panta.
Merikes skepseis...
Thymamai pote mou eixe tethei to erwthma ayto prwth fora. Htan to 91 otan anakalypsa to Cause of Death twn Obituary kai epatha plaka (etwn 14). Metal akougan kai ta 2 megalytera aderfia mou, apo tous opoious vevaia kai ephreazomoun para poly sta akousmata mou (oti agorazan, oti latrevan klp) kai stis apopseis mou. Tote gia mena htan poly dyskolo na agorazw diskous kai cd, kathoti eixa xartziliki gia na faw sto sxoleio to opoio mazeya siga-siga, ara eprepe na eimai poly eklektikos. Eixa faei kollhma me thn kasseta thn antegrammenh twn Obituary kai ithela opwsdhpote na parw ton disko/cd (oti mou kathotan). Kai tote einai pou o aderfos mou mou eipe to eksis (pou epitelous exei sxesh me ayto pou thelw na pw!):
"Mhn to pareis re Vasilh, kserw oti to goustareis ayth th stigmh alla ayth h mousikh den tha sou aresei otan megalwseis, einai poly akraia kai tha sou ksemeinei to cd. Na pareis kati pou tha theleis na to akous panta. Kai mena mou aresoun merika poly sklhra (etsi ta legame tote) alla ta variesai poly grhgora"
Thymamai oti ekeinh thn stigmh aporhsa. Kala, afou einai gamw o diskos, pws den tha mou aresei kai se 2 xronia dhladh? Alla hmoun kai malakas. Kai tote den phra ton disko giati lew, kati tha kserei o megalos sofos mou aderfos. Mphka kai se alles skepseis. Mhpws tha mou perasei kai mena ayth h fash? Mhpws tha arxisw na akouw punkies (opws eixe arxisei o megalyteros aderfos, Dead Kennedys, Ramones klp)? Einai progegrammenh h poreia? Tote eixa thn vevaiothta oti adynaton! Egw tha akouw panta metal! Kai to elega sta aderfia mou kai me koroideyan "nai, sta 40 sou tha akous Kreator!" Kai o megalyteros aderrfos mou egrafe "Heavy Metal Will Never Die" to '85 sto tetradio tou kai omws twra apostasiopoioutan siga siga... Etsi elega sto pisw meros tou myalou mou "re, mpas?"
...Symperasma: Panw apo deka xronia apo tote, to Cause of Death akoma to latrevw. Oxi mono ayto, alla anti na varethw to death to goustara akoma pio poly. Malakies legane ta aderfia mou. For the record, o paparas o aderfos mou pou prospathise na me apotrepsei phge kai agorase Obituary prin ena mhna tis epanekdoseis! Daskale pou didaskes...
Pio ousiwdes symperasma:
To metal einai ena eidos pou prosferetai gia thn efhvikh epanastash. Vasika, einai to idaniko eidos. Viaio, antidrastiko, den to goustaroun oi goneis, oi metallades thewrountai "sklhra" atoma (apo pitsirikia ennow) klp, klp. Etsi einai logiko na mazeyei poly kosmo pou prwtarxika xrhsimopoiei aythn thn mousikh gia ksespasma kai deytereyontws san Mousikh (katalavainete ti ennow telos pantwn, mhn epekteinomai).
E, otan o en logw kosmos hremhsei, katastallaksoun kai oi ormones klp, diapistwnei oti tou tairiazei mia mousikh pio hremh, diaforetikh, kati allo telos pantwn. Etsi, sta 20kati, ksedialynei to topio, "wrimazei" o kosmos kai vlepeis poios kosmos akouge metal epeidh pragmatika einai h mousikh pou tou tairiazei kai poios epeidh aplws ksespage...
Egw nwris katalava oti akouw metal epeidh eimai erwteymenos atherapeyta me ton hxo kai to styl. Arxisa na akouw prin thn efhveia kai poly prin exw efhvikes anhsyxies. Tyxeros hmoun... Eixa kai to bonus fysika oti sthn efhveia me porwne dipla... Etsi, kserw oti vasika, nai, kai sta 60 mou tha vazw na akouw kai Entombed kai Obituary kai Carcass... Giati oxi? Kai King Diamond kai Solitude Aeturnus kai Morgana Lefay... kai... kai... Mousikh einai kai malista kalh mousikh, poios o logos na mhn thn akouw?
Edw, sto egkyklopaidiko mou post na thiksw kai to eksis:
Opws poly swsta ethesan kapoia paidia prin apo mena, oti akous kai sou aresei pragmatika, sou aresei panta. Gia paradeigma tha htan adianohto ston patera mou na mhn tou aresei o Mozart twra, epeidh ton latrepse prwth fora sthn efhveia tou... Einai megalo lathos pou polys kosmos den mporei na kanei thn idia skepsh gia tous Megadeth 'h tous Sepultura 'h tous Queensryche 'h oti na'nai... Exw thn aisthish oti aytos o kosmos pou den mporei na dei ton eayto tou na akouei metal sto mellon *gia opoiondhpote logo* (epanalamvanw: gia opoiondhpote logo) mallon den akouei metal gia na akousei mousikh prwtistws, 'h isws den kserei na akouei mousikh genika...
Kai nai, pali epanalamvanw kati pou exei hdh eipwthei (diatypwnw thn entonh symfwnia mou!), aplws dieyrynoume ta akousmata mas oso megalwnoume. An agapas thn mousikh, agapas olh thn mousikh pou einai kalh, eite einai metal, eite jazz, eite klassikh, eite pop, eite vyzantina, eite blues, eite rock, eite ethnic, eite kinhmatografikh, eite hlektronikh, gothic, OTI NA NAI. Mousikh kalh na einai kai mesa...
Einai san to fai. Kalo fai kai mesa! Panta tha latrevw panw apo ola kreas sta karvouna (metal as poume!) alla ta spaw kai me thalassina, kai me saligkaria... Den mou aresei to psari katholou, parola ayta kserw oti to kalo psari einai kalo fai kai polys kosmos dikaiws to latrevei...
Elpizw na me ennoeite (eseis oi dyo argosxoloi pou diavasate mexri edw katw!)...
Gia na teleiwnoume: Meta to metal ti? Pio poly metal kai pio poly mousikh... Apla pragmata.
YG: Ti einai kalh mousikh? (themeliwdes erwthma)
h apanthsh pou prosferw:
A. O dhmiourgos ths agapaei ayto pou kanei
B. O dhmiourgos ths kserei ti kanei
asimoulis
07-12-2004, 20:02
kante ton administratora...
twra omws...
gamise...
mipws eisai sigrafeas? den exw dei pouthena tetoia domi kai anaptiksi apopsewn se makroskeles post sto ER...
necropethamenos
07-12-2004, 20:05
afto itan aneta sta 10 kalytera posts pou exw diavasei edw mesa.-
de tha mporousa na symfwnisw pio poly.
wraithmare
07-12-2004, 20:45
Same here, too.
Epitelous to er anavathmistike :D
Afto me thn epanastatikothta kai to metal paei pio vatheia...
Dld...
Egw akousa metal gia tous logous pou eipe o filtatos (young rebel, I was...) alla synexizw na akouw, 6 xronia twra...Ta akousmata mou allaksan, den lew, kai akomh goustarw na akouw kapoious diskous pou eixa agorasei tote.
Ara?
Kai rebellism kai quality.
Kai ta dyo ta vrhka sto metal.
Akouw kai alla pragmata kai oxi mono ta akouw, alla goustarw ki olas. Alla to metal einai latreia. Den kserw ti friki tha prepei na faw gia na ftasw se ena shmeio ths zwhs mou pou tha exw thapsei olous tous metal diskous mou kai ta mp3 mou (kala, gia ta teleytaia yparxei panta kai to recycle bin...)
SIXAMENOS
07-12-2004, 21:47
poly orea ta eipe o vic,ektos apo ena simeio pou to gamise ligo.
YG: Ti einai kalh mousikh? (themeliwdes erwthma)
h apanthsh pou prosferw:
A. O dhmiourgos ths agapaei ayto pou kanei
B. O dhmiourgos ths kserei ti kanei
akyro entelos.an enas dimiourgos vgalei ena album oxi epeidi agapaei auto pou kanei alla px epeidi thelei na poulisei kai autos o diskos emena maresei poly,starxidia mou.pali kali mousiki tha to theoriso.genika to kinitro tou dimiourgou de symvadizei panta me tin poiotita (dld me to kata poso mou aresei kati).to deutero skelos (o dimiourgos tis kserei ti kanei) tha thela na dieukrinistei ligo.
Kai egw pou nomiza oti oloi tha to prospernousan...:P
Gia to YG. Nomizw pws tha symfwnhsoume panw katw...
Otan lew oti o dhmiourgos tou agapaei ayto pou kanei den shmainei aparaithta oti vgazei ta swpsyxa tou, oti kanei thn ystath katathesh psyxhs klp. Sou fernw gia paradeigma ton Alice Cooper tou Trash, tous Whitesnake tou 1987 'h kai thn Shania Twain sthn telikh. Sigoura einai emporikh mousikh kai exei ws shmantiko (kyrio?) stoxo na poulhsei. Alla den einai kati pou einai adiaforo ston dhmiourgo tou. Eimai 100% vevaios oti oi anthrwpoi pisw apo emporikous diskous goustaroun ayto pou kanoun, akoma ki an den einai h megalh tous agaph. Thelw na pw o Mutt Lange evgale tous Def Leppard, evgale kai thn Shania Twain, o anthrwpos einai mesa sthn mousikh viomhxania, kserei ti poulaei kai kserei na kanei kati epityxhmeno.
Edw omws erxomaste kai sto B skelos. O Mutt Lange kserei ti kanei (opws iksere kai o Coverdale kai o Sykes, oi Jovi/Sambora/Desmond Child, o Alice Cooper/em..Desmond Child! klp). Otan leme kserei ti kanei, ennooume oti kai exoun talento se ayto pou kanoun kai exoun kai mia peira 'h texnikh katartish. Den einai eykolo na peis ti akrivws einai pou kanei kapoion kalo sthn douleia tou alla sigoura paizoun ola... O Criss Oliva feripin eixe to talento na paizei solo kai na gennaei prwtotypes, panemorfes fraseis. Me thn empeiria kai ton xrono ftanei sto epipedo tou Edge of Thorns pou ta solo tou einai aplws ma-gei-a.
Den eimai apolytos sto A+B=kalh mousikh. Thelw na pw kai mono h agaph pou exei o kallitexnhs mporei na se kanei na agaphseis kai esy thn mousikh tou. Des ton Quorthon sta epika twn Bathory pou sta fwnhtika, sigoura den iksere ti ekane! Alla to pathos tou perissevei toso poly pou kapoioi latreis ths mousikhs tou (kai einai para polla, cant be all wrong!) den tha allazan oute ena faltso stis ermhneies tou... Alloi, agapane ta pio akatergasta solo tou Oliva. Mousikh einai, texnh, den yparxoun kai apolyta sta synaisthimata.
Allwste kai to pio kseftilismeno pragma na pareis apo emporikh apopsh, kserw gw Britney Spears, kapou o synthetis tou Baby, One More Time to goustare to kommataki... Genikws sthn pop mousikh yparxei kalh douleia, aplws (gia na xrhsimopoihsw thn analogia tou faghtou sto prohgoumeno post mou) otan trws synexeia garidakia tha ta sixatheis. Poso mallon an trws ta ftiniarika garidakia ths symforas (ellhnikh pop) pou sinithws den ta goustareis oute otan peinas! ;)
Den kserw an egina safesteros, pantws epimenw akoma sthn agaph+gnwsh, opou agaph mporei na einai kai aplh sympatheia kai gnwsh mporei na shmainei empeiria, talento, texnikh katartish klp...
Gia na to thesw oso pio wma ginetai:
Einai dynaton h mhtera mou pou sixainetai to death metal kai den kserei apo mousikh texnika, na grapsei ena *stoixeiwdws* aksioprepes death metal kommati? Mia stoixeiwdws aksiopreph pop melwdioula? Isws, etsi den einai?
SIXAMENOS
07-12-2004, 22:15
ok ta ksekatharises kai symfono apolyta se osa les :shock:
SIXAMENOS
07-12-2004, 22:16
xm btw niotho ligo malakas pou ekanes terastia orea periektika posts ki ego apantao me 2 seires :oops:
alla sxedon ola apauta pou eipes einai my thoughts exactly.
eleventh guardian
08-12-2004, 00:22
Μπράβο ρε Vic :D
Χαίρομαι που έδωσα τη «σπίθα» για να γραφτούν τόσο σημαντικά πράγματα.
necropethamenos
08-12-2004, 10:41
Vic for president.
Ton vic gia ton president? sassaasasdasasdafsd
:P
rockavlon
08-12-2004, 11:29
vic - ahahahha. meta to metal - Hardies kai AORies...
basika opws to sketomai....
arxisa n akouw, scorps, maiden, metallica, manowar.
sta 11
meta to riksa se oti akougwtan, Rotting ktl ktl sta 14
tote arxisa na mathainw agglika kaloutsika
sta 19 eixa gyrisei se pio hpies faseis. heavy.
kai xwris plaka ta teleitaia 6,5 xronia pou ms fernoun sto shmera,
arxisa na agorazw, apodexthka to true dog kai to gyrisa se aor.
nai 15 xornia akouw hard kai alla....
pleon, den mporw n akousw kati allo san kyrio akousma.
alla perifereiaka akouw POLLLA POLLA ALLA kai kala...
plhn omws, mia kopela px, akolouthi th moda pio poly.
o antras, oxi oloi, yparxoun kai trendydes. oxi toso.
opotenes. nai kai sta 70. mporei na petaksw to omwnymo twn angelwitch giati oxi.
einai i mousikh me thn opoia megalwsa.
to ena den apokleiei to allo pantws. auta.
swsstos o vic.
Amnesiac.
08-12-2004, 12:35
xoxoxo mono egw fainetai oti diafwnw me ton Vic. otan epistrepsw tha kanw post katevato.
marianna2525
08-12-2004, 14:05
apoti vlepw oi perisoteroi prwin rokades-simerinoi 40rides to exoun gyrisei se entexno i se jazz
Ε, υπάρχουν και εξαιρέσεις...
Μετά το ροκ εφευρέθηκε το μέταλ, οπότε στράφηκα προς τα κει.
Επειδή μ'αρέσουν και μερικά μπλακ, προβλέπω σε 10 χρόνια να ακούω καφρίλες :P (με κακές παρέες έμπλεξα...)
Raven Lord
08-12-2004, 14:06
apoti vlepw oi perisoteroi prwin rokades-simerinoi 40rides to exoun gyrisei se entexno i se jazz
Ε, υπάρχουν και εξαιρέσεις...
Μετά το ροκ εφευρέθηκε το μέταλ, οπότε στράφηκα προς τα κει.
Επειδή μ'αρέσουν και μερικά μπλακ, προβλέπω σε 10 χρόνια να ακούω καφρίλες :P (με κακές παρέες έμπλεξα...)
μιλάς γενικά για άτομα από το forum? :P
marianna2525
08-12-2004, 14:09
μιλάς γενικά για άτομα από το forum? :P
Ονόματα δε λέμε, οικογένειες δε θίγουμε... :P
an exeis oreksi akoma amnesiac tha ithela na diavasw to katevato sou 'h an den exeis xrono, se poio shmeio diafwneis akrivws.
Amnesiac.
13-12-2004, 23:05
xm i alitheia einai oti variemai ayti ti stigmi na analysw tin apopsi mou :?
kyriws diafwnw me ayto :
Opws poly swsta ethesan kapoia paidia prin apo mena, oti akous kai sou aresei pragmatika, sou aresei panta.
epigrammatika, apla na pw to eksis :
san anthrwpos allazw synexws. den exw kamia sxesi me ton amnesiac twn 15 etwn i twn 18 i twn 20. exoun allaksei ta gousta mou sto fai, ta gousta mou stis gynaikes, ta gousta mou sta rouxa, i symperifora mou, o tropos skepsis mou, oi filoi mou, ta panta genika. i mousiki pou akouw giati tha prepei na parameinei i idia?
diafwnw kai se kapoia alla pragmatakia, p.x. i antifasi tou na les oti "i kali mousiki einai kali mousiki asxeta apo tampeles" kai meta na anaferesai entelws ypotimitika stin pop mousiki.
anyway, de thymamai ola osa egrapses, me ti mprwti eykairia tha ta ksanadiavasw kai tha epektathw perissotero.
-SlaughteR-
14-12-2004, 00:27
Eγώ βασικά πιστεύω πως δεν μπορείς να είσαι σίγουρος 100% για το αν θα συνεχίσεις να ακούς την ίδια μουσική που ακούς τώρα forever. Όσο και να σου αρέσει...
Για παράδειγμα εγώ που πριν 2-3 χρόνια άκουγα nu-μεταλλιές και λίγο από punk rock πίστευα πως δεν υπάρχει περίπτωση να στραφώ προς άλλο είδος μουσικής γιατί τότε δεν μου έκανε "κούκου" τίποτα άλλο εκτός από αυτά!
Μέχρι που άκουσα Μπαντέρα και καύλωσα με αυτά που παίζουν οι ανθρώποι και μπήκα στον σωστό δρόμο =P
PANTERA ΛΟΙΠΟΝ :dfinger:
den milhsa ypotimhtika gia thn pop mousikh genika. Milhsa ypotimhtika gia thn sinithws eleeinh ellhnikh pop mousikh sygkekrimena. Antithetws, akouw aneta kommatia pollwn pop kallitexnwn...
Oso gia thn vasikh diafwnia sou, omologw pws den exw akousei poly kosmo na allazei gousto sto fai kai stis gynaikes alla dekton :P Ayto pou lew den einai oti xreiazetai na akous synexeia to idio, alla oti den vlepw kapoio logo na mhn sou aresei kati pou sou arese mikros. Me thn proypothesh vevaia oti exeis syneidhsh tou eaytou sou, dhladh gia mia hlikia anw twn deka telos pantwn (kai xwris na einai aparaithto ayto).
Kyriwtera, ayto pou tonizw einai oti sou aresei panta h mousikh pou sou arese ws mousikh ayth katheayth. Oxi h mousikh pou gamei tous flwrous, h mousikh pou ta spaw otan me prhzoun oi goneis kai oi kathigites kai oloi... Kai ayta einai egkyra, alla egw anaferomai sthn mousikh aksia enos kommatiou. Gia na ginw pio sygkekrimenos, epanalamvanw to paradeigma tou Mozart. Den mporw na fantastw kapoion na mou leei oti twra sta 30, kai meta pou akousa kai alla eidh, den mou aresei pia o Mozart. Na mhn akouei kapoios synexeia Mozart, to katalavainw. Giati loipon, yparxei diaxyth h eykolia na poume oti twra pia den mou aresei to Keepers of the Seven Keys? Twra pia den goustarw to Master of Puppets?
Tha ithela genika (kai ayto apozhtousa apo to reply sou, otan vreis ton xrono kai an theleis) na mou dwseis mia eksigish, pou diaferei o Mozart 'h o BB King 'h o Savvopoulos apo to metal kai to teleytaio einai ena eidos pou o polys o kosmos thewrei poly fysiko na mhn tou aresei pia otan perasoun kapoia xronia. Psaxnw omws mia eksighsh peran ths efhvikhs epanastashs pou teleiwse. Ayto to epeshmana kai egw. Psaxnw kati pera apo ayto, an yparxei... Gia thn wra pantws emmenw sthn arxikh mou thesi...
Amnesiac.
14-12-2004, 12:17
xm. as milisw me paradeigmata.
otan prwtoarxisa na asxoloumai "sovara" me to metal, diladi na pairnw kanadyo sinti to mina (osa mou epetrepe to xartziliki tou 15xronou diladi), eixa faei TRELO kollima me to holy land twn angra. oloi mporoun na katalavoun ti ennow (akroasi 15 fores ti mera, anatrixiles ktl). apo ena simeio kai meta eixa akousei to album toses ma toses fores pou arxise na "stereyei" synaisthimatika kai oi anatrixiles na meiwnontai, afou eixa mathei ta panta apeksw. me to perasma twn xronwn arxisa na akouw kai entelws diaforetika pragmata kai to holy land mpike sto rafi.
eixa na to akousw xronia kai se kapoia fasi to evala ksana. pera apo to synaisthima tis nostalgias, den eniwsa tipota apo ola ayta pou aisthanomoun akougontas to mikros. anamenomeno, kathws ta akousmata mou alla kai ayta pou anazitw mesw tis mousikis exoun allaksei entelws.
kai gia na apantisw sto erwtima sou : i mousiki aksia tou diskou safws kai den exei allaksei "antikeimenika". afou eixa faei toso trelo kollima, simainei oti to holy land einai kapoio_pio_poiotiko_album. apla emena pleon de me kalyptei synaisthimatika (san ton askiti milaw) gia tous logous pou proeipa (allagi goustwn, synexis akroasi tou album ktl).
opote mporw na pw oti to holy land einai ena theiko album to opoio omws den einai gia mena (pleon). to vlepw san mia palia agapi or sthg i opoia an kai den yparxei pleon, anamfivola sto parelthon ypirkse.
symfwna me ta legomena sou ayto simainei oti den agapisa arketa to album i kati tetoio?
btw to ena album mporei na genikeytei kai na ginei ena parakladi tou metal, olokliro to metal, olokliro to rock, otidipote.
eimai sigouros pws den parameneis erwteymenos me oles tis gynaikes pou erwteytikes sti zwi sou.
i mono-gia-seks gkomena pou eixes mporei na itan o,ti xreiazosoun tote alla twra de tha mporouses nasai mazi tis.
mporei na etrwges maniwdws souvlakia alla meta na efyges foititis se alli poli kai na anagkazosoun na trws souvlakia kathe mera, opote apo ena simeio kai epeita tha ta sixathikes kai otan gyrnouses spiti sou tha zitouses apo ti mana sou na sou ftiaksei fasolakia. ayto de simainei oti ta souvlakia de sou aresan pote.
kai alla paradeigmata.
afou sti zwi sou ola mporoun na allaksoun,sti mousiki giati prepei na parameneis pistos se ayta pou agapises?
btw de mporw na apantisw stin erwtisi sou "pou diaferei o Mozart 'h o BB King 'h o Savvopoulos apo to metal kai to teleytaio einai ena eidos pou o polys o kosmos thewrei poly fysiko na mhn tou aresei pia otan perasoun kapoia xronia" kathws den exw stamatisei na akouw metal. kai safws akouw perissotero akraia mousiki apoti akouga sto parelthon. (metal lew e, oxi xevimetal, mi petaxtoun oi wotans tou forum). aplws apo ayta pou akouga mikros niwthw oti pira osa eixa na parw kai pleon de mporoun na mou prosferoun tipota parapanw. i toulaxiston oxi osa mporei na mou prosferei i enasxolisi me kati entelws kainourio.
gia na synopsisw ligo, mporw na pw aneta oti de goustarw pia to X album pou akouga mikros. taytoxrona mporw na pw oti to sygkekrimeno X album "antikeimenika" einai poly kalo kai safws mporei na kanei kapoion anthrwpo na kollisei mazi tou. apla egw pleon to "straggiksa" toso pou den exei tipota na mou dwsei pleon. einai toso apithano na symvei ayto?
xm elpizw na se kalypsa.
Kveldssanger
14-12-2004, 12:20
Απόλαυση.
rockavlon
14-12-2004, 12:22
hm amni, emena pantws, akoma m aresoun ta pio polla apo auta pou akouga, apla naoixtika pio poly se hard rock, Aor kai periferiakous hxous, alla to olo, trannsition, egine xwris na to katalabw, epishs, nai enas diskos an ton akous 15 fores th mera. meta pao ligo xanei th mageia tou. alla px, kapoia stigmh eixa n akousw maiden 6-7 mhnes ki ebala to powerslave, kai ta ekana limpa.... it'stands the test of time... mia XARA !!!!
auto einai to kolpo...
for me
necropethamenos
14-12-2004, 12:37
afta pou leei o amnesiac isxyoun panw katw, aplws de mporw na katalavw tin genikefsi.px oti straggiksa ena olokliro eidos kai twra de mporw na to akousw.
PITHANOTATA einai tyxaio to gegonos oti de symvainei se mena.
Pantws i apopsi tou amnesiac einai kai i moni ygiis giati den periexei malakies tou typou "epapsa na akouw giati megalwsa kai wrimasa" i "akouw akoma giati eimai pistos sti mousiki mou".
Egw kapoious diskous pou eliwsa tous varethika, gia kapoious anathewrisa (kai tous akouga kai elega thee mou pws to akouga afto to prama) kai kapoious tous akouw akoma POLY.
px
blind guardian somewhere far beyond: apla teleios diskos, ma teleios leme, alla kserw kathe gamimeni nota ekei mesa-mporw na akousw kana 2 kommatia, i an ton akousw live tha ton akousw me endiaferon alla SIGOURA den einai opws itan tote.
Grave digger Tunes of War: tote to akouga kai me porwne kai tous eixa dei kai live (gia klammata itan - afto to eixa parei prefa kai tote) kai twra ton akouw kai lew PWS STO MPOUTSO KATHOMOUN KAI AKOUGA TON TRAGIKO TON TRAGOUDIARI TOUS!!!!
manowar: ta prwta 7 ta akouw akoma me tin idia porwsi (gia kapoion aneksigito logo) kai de mporw na ksekollisw me tipota kai twra paw na valw to hail to england MOUNAKIA EIXATE DEN EIXATE ME KANATE NA VALW MANOWAR PALI!!!
kata ta alla PANTA ma PANTA akouga pop (exw vinylia phil collins/paula abdul/tears for fears pou eixa agorasei TOTE) kai akomi akouw. Eidika me 80s-early90s exw apistefti porwsi alla kai sta metepeita ypirxan kommatia pou akouga POLY.
Episis akouw KAI ellinika, AKOMA KAI ELLINIKA POP merikes fores. Afto pou thelw na pw einai oti de xreiastike na paratisw mia mousiki pou m'aresei gia na akousw mia alli.
OPWS TI VRISKEI KANEIS.
Amnesiac.
14-12-2004, 12:38
xm kai se mena i metavasi apo ena eidos mousikis se ena allo den egine syneidita.
btw, giati na psaxnw na vrw "kolpa" gia na synexisoun na mou aresoun ayta pou akouga paliotera? yparxei toso kali mousiki sto gkosmo pou apokleietai na ftasw sto simeio na exw anakalypsei ta panta kai na mi vriskw kainouria pragmata pou na me synarpazoun.
rockavle, oso kai na sou arese to powerslave otan to vales, de nomizw na itan to idio me tin prwti fora pou to akouses e?
Amnesiac.
14-12-2004, 12:52
afta pou leei o amnesiac isxyoun panw katw, aplws de mporw na katalavw tin genikefsi.px oti straggiksa ena olokliro eidos kai twra de mporw na to akousw.
xm paradeigma (ksana).
exeis akousei 100 power metal sintiz. gia tous logous pou eksigisa pio panw (vl. souvlakia), i apolaysi pou sou prosferei kathe kainourio sinti einai oloena kai mikroteri. fysika kai mporeis na pareis allo ena power sinti kai na to xareis, i apolaysi den exei eksafanistei, apla einai pio dyskolo na vreis kati pou tha se sygklonisei, giati exeis idi allous 100 diskous pou einai peripou sto idio styl.
meta kapoios sou dinei ena sinti tou X sygkrotimatos pou paizei Y mousiki. enthousiazesai opws tin prwti fora pou eixes akousei power, giati einai kati entelws kainourio gia ta aytia sou. mathaineis oti yparxei olokliri skini apo mpantes pou paizoun Y mousiki.
otan ksanapas sto diskadiko, tha pareis ena akomi power sinti?
o enthousiasmos gia kati kainourio den einai aperigrapta pio entonos?
den einai poly pio pithano na peseis me ta moutra stin prospatheia na anakalypseis osa pio polla mporeis gia tin Y mousiki?
amnesiac wrote:
otan prwtoarxisa na asxoloumai "sovara" me to metal
:lol:
Loipon ki ego gyro sto 1995 - 1996 eixa apogohteytei plhros apo to metal afou oti kainourio mainstream agoraza evgaine patata. Th palepsa me alla eidh (oxi poly makrina me to klassiko metal - px progressive) alla kai pali h apogohteysh erxotan me akoma taxyterous rythmous.
H katastash ayth me ekane n asxolitho me to underground kai ligotero gnosta metal groups arketa apo ta opoia eginan kai apo ta agaphmena mou, ksepernontas tous neanikous mou hroes opos maiden/sabbath/motorhead/priest (dyskolo gia tous teleytaious).
Mallon omos eimai eidikh periptosh afou hksera akrivos ti epsaxna kai apla ta kainouria groups den mou to edinan. Dhladh to gousto mou exei meinei sxedon to idio ola ayta ta xronia, kai kathe fora pou tha akouso ena poly kalo classic metal kommati ta synaisthimata einai ta idia me th proth fora pou akousa to Run to the Hills h to Children of the Sea.
ok warlord exeis katalhxei edw kai xronia sto ti akous kai sto ti goustareis peripou na akous kai den to bariesai.dekto.yparxei mia merida pou barietai na akouei kapoia pragmata.sta aytia sou ta sodom h o,tidhpote(to paradeigmaeinai tyxai0 kai oxi gia flame) einai diaforetika to ena cd ap to allo.stou amnesiac px(to paradeigma xanaeinai tyxaio) moiazoun ola idia.opote logiko einai siga-siga oxi mono na barietai ena,2 group alla oloklhra eidh.yparxei kati paralogo s'ayta?eite mainstream eite underground.
egw px ta obituary(pou anafer8hkan pio panw) den mporw pleon na ta akousw.palia ta goustara.alla oxi logw tou oti megalwsa,sobarepsa kai diafora alla xaroumena.
nikola den leme tipota to diaforetiko.
Apla emena me tsantizoun oi typoi pou lene "ti malakies akouga tote" th stigmh pou "tote" xtypiontousan sth proth grammh stous brocas helm.
Kai vevaia yparxoun diskoi pou den tous akouo sxedon pote pia. Alla einai kommatia ths zohs mou kai den ta petao san stimenes lemonokoupes.
rockavlon
14-12-2004, 17:09
koita, basika, gia mena poly megalo bathmo sto an mou aresei kati i oxi paizei o tragoudiarhs.....
dhladhs....
ena prama tha pw... arch rival - can you tell me why ??? oso ki an exw akousei kalassiko heavy - e to kommati leei trela....
ena kommati san ki auto se kollaei......an sou aresei o hxo, dioti sygkentrwnei ola ta kala tou idwmatos.... profanws, den trelenesai opws otan hsoun 14... alla exwntas akousei arketa, px sthn periptwsh mou, ektimas, to oti o kallitexnhs katafernei na akoustei, ahem arketa freskos kai piasiarikos...
epipleon, akouw kai alla pramata, px giati na apporipsw tous tiamat. Gamane ta palhkaria me liges eksereseis/strabopathmata....
to ena den apokleiei to allo....
oi accadacca, bgazoun logou xarh, paromoia, hxitika kommatia,
alla re paidi, to riff tou whole lotta rosie px...otan to akouseis, e se kollaei.... etsi ki otan akousa px to stiff upper lip eipa, wpa edw, eimaste... giait, den mporei mia kalh, mpanta na bgalei enan kalo disko sta 40 ths ???!
apla, den mporw n akousw kati, ntemi.... thelw kithara, kyrile. me solakia, me orea themata, an exei ki armonikes layered, goustarw, epeidh eimai aor-sucker, kai mia xarakthristikh, MELWDIKH, fwnh tis PERISSOTERES fores e ?! pou na peithei..... i to xeis i oxi.... e twra ta perissotera harsh, vocal, groups, den mou kanoun aisthish, dioti i ekfrastikh poikilia, sto grylisma/ourliaxto einai mikroterh, apo oti sto normal tragoudi.... alla px, dickinson kai allo, saxon..... enw kserw gw cannibal corpse me ena allo, i diaora, mikrh.... cof me ta 200.000 alla pou antigrafoun pali.... :P
kai gia na to teleiwnoume ....
mono fetos, agorasa 79 singlakia, pop :P se 4 mhnes... an sas leei tpt auto... ehehehehe... kai kamai 50ara diskous, apo oti nanai... ena kalo tragoudi diskos, einai KALO no matter what.... xwris plaka an pote kataferw na DJArw, elate ki akouste.... :P ahahhaha.
kai o Amnesiac opws kai o Vic exoun points pou symfwnw. Den exw apokyrhksei tpt alla polla pragmata takouw spania.
@warlord: diafwnw teleiws me to styl "kserw ti psaxnw", to gousto sou fysika kai de prokeitai na allaksei efoson 8ewreis oti ksereis ti psaxneis k to xeis vrei k de 8es nallaksei. An den akouseis tpt allo de 8a vreis kai tpt allo nasaresei. De sou pe kaneis oti prepei na apokyrhkseis oti akous epeidh s'aresei kai kati allo.
merika pragmata einai aytonohta.
necropethamenos
14-12-2004, 20:57
afta pou leei o amnesiac isxyoun panw katw, aplws de mporw na katalavw tin genikefsi.px oti straggiksa ena olokliro eidos kai twra de mporw na to akousw.
xm paradeigma (ksana).
exeis akousei 100 power metal sintiz. gia tous logous pou eksigisa pio panw (vl. souvlakia), i apolaysi pou sou prosferei kathe kainourio sinti einai oloena kai mikroteri. fysika kai mporeis na pareis allo ena power sinti kai na to xareis, i apolaysi den exei eksafanistei, apla einai pio dyskolo na vreis kati pou tha se sygklonisei, giati exeis idi allous 100 diskous pou einai peripou sto idio styl.
meta kapoios sou dinei ena sinti tou X sygkrotimatos pou paizei Y mousiki. enthousiazesai opws tin prwti fora pou eixes akousei power, giati einai kati entelws kainourio gia ta aytia sou. mathaineis oti yparxei olokliri skini apo mpantes pou paizoun Y mousiki.
otan ksanapas sto diskadiko, tha pareis ena akomi power sinti?
o enthousiasmos gia kati kainourio den einai aperigrapta pio entonos?
den einai poly pio pithano na peseis me ta moutra stin prospatheia na anakalypseis osa pio polla mporeis gia tin Y mousiki?
nai, sigoura, exeis dikio apla den mou exei symvei. Pantws gia na pw tin alitheia kainourgies mpantes pou na pw "PWPW GAMISE" o diskos tou einai pleon poly spanio, ston power xwro px (pou itan kati pou akouga apeirws).
alla ntaks katalavainw ti diadikasia pou perigrafeis.
Kata ta alla, kaneis den eipe oti prepei na vreis ena kolpo gia na akous kai ta palia sou cd, oti sou kavlwnei prepei na akous, TOSO APLA.
Me kalypses plhrws amnesiac. Katalavainw apolyta ti theleis na peis. Alla thelw na sou tonisw oti vasika den diafwnoume pouthena. O skopos tou post mou den htan na ekfrasw thn apopsh "opoios den kavlwnei me Obituary sta 40 tou den agaphse pote tous Obituary". Opws poly swsta kai esy epeshmanes me to paradeigma twn Angra, anagnwrizeis thn mousikh aksia tou diskou kai (fantazomai) exeis akoma ton disko mesa sthn kardia sou ki as mhn ton akous pia.
Ayto omws diaferei shmantika apo to na peis "hmoun mikros kai amathis kai twra eida oti oi Angra einai mousikh gia neous". Oute o pateras mou akouei Mozart kathe mera, oute egw akouw to Master of Puppets kathe mera. Isa-isa, eipa oti yparxoun tonoi kalhs mousikhs ekei eksw kai olh h kalh mousikh einai eyprosdekth gia ekeinon pou agapaei thn mousikh thn idia. Kai tha symfwnhsw kai apolytws mazi sou oti h synexhs epanalipsi tha se kourasei. Nai, den thelw na trww souvlakia kathe mera. Kai den to kanw. Alla, opws kai na to kanoume, to souvlaki paramenei apo ta agaphmena mou faghta kai tha parameinei mexri telous. Oute skopos mou einai na kanw stavroforia apokyriksis twn atomwn pou kata kanona den akoune pia metal, einai omws na pw eytharsws oti osa atoma snomparoun to metal meta apo xronia akroashs 'h me opoiodhpote tropo to meiwnoun ws *mousikh* den exoun katalavei ti esti mousikh kai den exoun katalavei giati oi idioi akougane mousikh 'h en telei aplws kouvalane kompleks. Opoiodhpote eidos an to akous synexws kai MONO ayto (eite metal, eite rock, eite hlektronika, eite jazz, eite... eite...) tha se sterepsei. Kapoia eidh antexoun pio polla xronia logw hxhtikhs poikilias (kai to metal einai anamesa se ayta kai ayto einai aksiofronhto eyshmo).
Me liga logia, gia na mhn to kourazw allo, h epixeirhmatologia mou sta prohgoumena posts mou den aforouse me thn kamia thn dikia sou periptwsh. Egw pistevw pws se deka xronia kai meta apo teleiws alla akousmata, an ksanavaleis to Holy Land (pou einai yperdiskos kai symfwnw apolyta mazi sou) tha sou aresei. Isws zhseis kai poly entona synaisthimata. Telika giati anatrixiazei kapoios? To kainourgio, to anapantexo? H teleia ekfrash tou dikou sou synaisthimatos mesw ths mousikhs kapoiou allou? Isws h teleia apodosh enos synaisthimatos kapoiou allou se sena? Ola ayta exoun th stigmh tous kai sigoura oi prwtes fores vriskontai se pleonektikoterh thesh ;) Tipota den apokleiei thn epanemfanish tous sto mellon ekei pou den to perimeneis kai tipota den apokleiei na vgei methavrio enas power metal diskos me oumpala pou tha se kathilwsei.
Fysika yparxei kai o koresmos tou eidous. To kainourgio kai anapantexo dyskola tha erthei se ena eidos 20 sxedon xronwn pou paizetai panw katw me ton idio tropo (gia to power lew). Omws empneysh kai idees kai talento den exoun sxesh me to kainourgio. Egw epatha plaka me tous Scanner to 97 e to Ball of the Damned. Den paizoun kati trela prwtotypo. Alla ksexeilizoun empneysh.
Na kanw kai mia allh parathrhsh pou exei thesh edw pera. Oi kaloi diskoi pou vgainoun sto xwro tou metal kathe xrono einai panw katw idioi. Sthn dekaetia tou 80, oloi panw katw goustarane Metallica, Maiden, King Diamond, Slayer, Helloween, Crimson Glory... Diaforetika eidh alla ola metal kai kala. Shmera, me ta dekades parakladia kai tis dekades skhnes, oi diskoi einai diaskorpismenoi deksia aristera sta eidh kai dystyxws oi opadoi kleinontai se skhnes kai den xampariazoun ti ginetai eksw apo aytes... Einai san ena dentro. Sthn arxh htan o kormos kai ta dyo tria kladia. Ola eykola na ta parakoloutheis kai ola ta frouta mazemena mazi. Shmera ta kladia exoun megalwsei kai epektathei kai to dentro kalyptei mia axanh ektash pou thelei meraki kai endiaferon na to psakseis na vreis pou sto kalo exoun xwthei oi kales kyklofories (ta frouta!).
Pantws, to metal kala kratei, megalwnei kai paei, kaloi diskoi vgainoun kai se nea idiwmata (pio tyxera apo ta palia, exoun to pleonekthma tou kainourgiou kai synarpastikou) kai se palia (ax, katakahmenoi Exodus, diskara vgalane kai ligoi asxolithikane! proswpiko parapono ayto :P)
To pio wraio omws einai oti gyrw yparxoun anarithmita alla dentra me wraious karpous. Oreksi na exeis na trws kai analoga me to gousto sou. Apla, to dentro tou metal (kala, skatomelo mou vgainei to paradeigma alla prosperaste!) gia kapoio logo kapoioi lene oti ta frouta tou einai mono gia mwra...
Den kserw an egw se kalypsa. Nomizw pantws pws den yparxei diafwnia...
nikola den leme tipota to diaforetiko.
Apla emena me tsantizoun oi typoi pou lene "ti malakies akouga tote" th stigmh pou "tote" xtypiontousan sth proth grammh stous brocas helm.
Kai vevaia yparxoun diskoi pou den tous akouo sxedon pote pia. Alla einai kommatia ths zohs mou kai den ta petao san stimenes lemonokoupes.
ok exeis dikio gi ayto egrapsa to oti ekopsa na akouw se kamia periptwsh logw "wrimothtas" klp.
oi accadacca, bgazoun logou xarh, paromoia, hxitika kommatia,
alla re paidi, to riff tou whole lotta rosie px...otan to akouseis, e se kollaei.... etsi ki otan akousa px to stiff upper lip eipa, wpa edw, eimaste... giait, den mporei mia kalh, mpanta na bgalei enan kalo disko sta 40 ths ???!
symfwnaw apolyta gia tous akadaka kai den exw prob me ta gerontia pou bgazoun kalous diskous sta 100 tous.allwste persy eida bowie.apla se kapoia fash me kapoio styl pou den einai to agaphmeno sou les ok.dax ftanei.den thn psaxnw allo.
Amnesiac.
15-12-2004, 12:06
amnesiac wrote:
otan prwtoarxisa na asxoloumai "sovara" me to metal
:lol:
warlord ti to asteio vriskeis sayto pou egrapsa? ksereis ti akouga otan imoun mikros? i mipws ksereis ti "thysies" ekana gia na mazepsw lefta na parw kana sinti? mipws esy ksekinises na agorazeis diskous apo to pronipio (p.x.to party twn stroumf sto agkathi )? mipws gia na asxolithei kapoios sovara prepei na exei 3000 europower diskous? mipws de diavases olokliro to post mou? mipws sta triantakati sou den eisai se thesi na sxoliaseis me epixeirimata otidipote? mipws apla eisai vlakas?
ayto den to eides?
(metal lew e, oxi xevimetal, mi petaxtoun oi wotans tou forum)
necropethamene :
Kata ta alla, kaneis den eipe oti prepei na vreis ena kolpo gia na akous kai ta palia sou cd, oti sou kavlwnei prepei na akous, TOSO APLA.
epishs, nai enas diskos an ton akous 15 fores th mera. meta pao ligo xanei th mageia tou. alla px, kapoia stigmh eixa n akousw maiden 6-7 mhnes ki ebala to powerslave, kai ta ekana limpa.... it'stands the test of time... mia XARA !!!!
auto einai to kolpo...
for me
Vic xm de mporw na eimai kai sigouros alla nomizw oti kai sto mellon otan valw na akousw to holy land tha to dw kapws nostalgika to thema kai de tha porwthw ksana. alla den agxwnomai kai idiaitera epaytou. an ksanarxisw na to akouw me eyxaristisi, kali fasi, an oxi, pali thaxw ti dynatotita na akousw kati pio fresko (ixitika, oxi xronologika) kai na enthousiastw.
genika, gia na kleisw ton kyklo twn sovarwn posts pou xalane to image mou (...), na pw oti sti mousiki opws kai se otidipote sti zwi genikotera, ta panta einai sxetika.
de xreiazetai na vazoume kanones gia osous akougan kati kai den to akoune pleon. mporei na yparxoun apeiroi logoi pou de gnwrizoume/fantazomaste gia tous opoious kapoios stamataei na akouei ena eidos mousikis i akoma kai mousiki genika. mi syndeete panta tin afosiwsi me tin agapi (askitis mode on)
or sthg.
Tonosalata
15-12-2004, 12:26
...
na pw oti sti mousiki opws kai se otidipote sti zwi genikotera, ta panta einai sxetika.
de xreiazetai na vazoume kanones gia osous akougan kati kai den to akoune pleon. mporei na yparxoun apeiroi logoi pou de gnwrizoume/fantazomaste gia tous opoious kapoios stamataei na akouei ena eidos mousikis i akoma kai mousiki genika. mi syndeete panta tin afosiwsi me tin agapi (askitis mode on)
or sthg.
auto akrivws.
elikse.
De 8a mporousa na fantastw th zwh mou xwris hard rock/hravy metal, h na to pw alliws "sklhrh mousikh".
Outws h allws akouw diafora pragmata ektos eutwn, apla to heavy exei stigmatisei ta teleutaia 12 xronia ths zwhs mou me tetoio tropo, me tosh dunamh kai tosh omorfia pou kamia allh mousikh den to exei kanei kai amfivallw an 8a mporesei kai pote.
Se kamia periptwsh de me 8ewrw kollhmeno metala, alla gamw to mouni mou, kapoia metal akousmata exoun TOSH, ma TOSH DYNAMH sth psuxh kai sth kardia pou kai mono pou to skeftomai anatrixiazw.
Euxaristw
P.S. Eimai en genei "anoixtomualos". Akouw sxedon ta panta.
Raven Lord
15-12-2004, 12:42
genika, gia na kleisw ton kyklo twn sovarwn posts pou xalane to image mou (...)
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Accident _Of _Birth
17-12-2004, 23:58
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