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freak brother
24-10-2004, 15:11
arthro apo thn eleutherotypia
Oi patdides den xwrizontai kerdizontai
SAN MARX
(opws leme san martean)
tou manou stefanidh
Plai sta vareta anthrwpoeidh twn kanaliwn paizoun autes tis meres kai ta ellhnoeidh twn mizerwn kai sumplegmatikwn sxoleiwn mas.H idia polukairismenh , hlithia istoria.Poios dikaioute na shkwnei thn shmaia.H maniani , h sonila h to hmetero mpiftekopaido pou exei megalwsei me GOodies kai psemata omoiws opws oi goneis tou exoun zhsei mia zwh me "sundhkalistika" rousfetia kai nomimopoihmenes arpaxtes.Prokeitai giautous pou volevontai me ta meiwmena merokamata twn oikonomikwn metanastwn sto authaireto tous kai meta tous katadidoun sta oudetera astunomika organa pou oute eidan oute xeroun.Kai to vrady ta arsenika ellhnoeidh ,pateres twn paidiwn pou patwsan alla parola auta theloun th shmaia "mas" , xedinoun sta kwladika ta opoia gemisan eparxia kai astika kentra .Me tis allodapes bebaiws pou diakinei h valkanikh mafia upo ta ommata ths oudeterhs ymwn astynomias.
H paideia katarreei , apo thn allh , paragontas leitourgikws analfavhtous se oles tis vathmhdes ths.Sta panepisthmia eisagontai foithtes pou sthn pleionothta tous den epiasan thn vash , enw sta lukeia h ethsia apotuxia twn mathhtwn bainei auxanomenh me gewmetrikh proodo.Ta ptuxia den exasfalizoun epaggelma, enw pro pollou exei falkideuthei kathe dunatothta ousiastikhs kalliergeias.Hmimatheis misallodoxoi paradopistoi kata vathos ansfaleis ,plhn yperhfanoi "ELlhnes", den dinoume thn shmaia mas sthn Sonila ki as milaei polu pio kala ellhnika apo mas kai as exei kai to hthos kai thn axioprepeia na mas petaxei (th shmaia) sta moutra.E auth h "shmaia" den me endiaferei.Afou tulhxe ta podia tou karagkounh ki egine diakosmhtiko sto sarabalaki tou mikroastou pou katalave oti uparxei ws ontothta mono kai mono epeidh epiase thn kefalia o xaristeas h "petuxe" h Gianna (thn plhrh exouthenwsh mas).Auith h toso eukolh kai agoraia kai epipolhs patridolagneia afora tous opadous tou xristodoulou, oxi se mena .Emena me endiaferei h shmaia pou tulixe ton xameno anthypoloxago ths alvanias , h ton teleutaio frouro ths akropolhs pou phdhxe sto keno , h ton gleos kai ton sianta pou omws oi uperhfanoi sunellhnes katepshfisan uper ths fwfhs kai tou karatzaferh.
Goneis katatzakataferhdes kai ntava-tv-tzhdes enhmerwmenoi ataktws apo kakomoutsounakhdes , oi opoioi pantws einai ektaktoi hthopoioi-aggloergolavisti actor-kai exoun panta na poun ena kalo logo gia to kainourgio afentiko tous.H apisteuth varemara kai glitsa ths ellhnikhs thleorashs . Apo enan prwthypourgo pou se kourase mporeis na glitwseis. Apo thn Panagiwtarea pote.Panta tha se vriskei amerimno kai tha se polubolei me politismo ek twn enontwn-dhladh omws h idia ton katalavainei-kai me proskeklhmeno ton dhmhtrh papaiwanou.O opoios malista protathhke ws o antras ths xronias (emeis pali pshfizoume papakaliath giati mas endiaferei epi tou prokeimenou h apopsh tou lazopoulou)
GIa na teleiwnoume :paidakia goustarete th shmaia? na diavazete perissotero kai na vlepete ligotero "fame story" mhpws kai xeperasete ta alvanakia, filipinezakia h pashs fusews mavrakia pou sas exoun xeskisei stous vathmous.Etsi tha luthoun kai ta "ethnika" dramata kai oi "patriwtikes" katalhpseis sxoleiwn.Afhste pou mh kanontas mathhma xeiroterevete thn thesh sas.Kindunevete na meinete pio agrammatoi kai apo tous goneis sas.Pws na to kanoume h gnwsh den einai mono dunamh einai kai exousia.To eipe o foukw antigrafontas ton makiaveli pou antegrapse ton aristotelh.Psila grammata gia tous thiaswtes ths kalomoiras.(ti tha ginei mauto to koutavi ?kapoia filozwikh na to mazepsei,giati futrwnei pantou kai mou thn dinei sta nevra.Aman pia me to athwo sex amerikanikou typou , dhladh xwris amartia .San thn coca cola hdonh xwris alkool.H thn coca cola art twn ellhnwn dhthen prwtoporwn pou anaferontai sta fulakismena mnhmatamesa sto ampountampi mauswleiuo tou lamprakh.Dhladh ta upogeia tou megarou mousikhs).Boulwste to twra paidakia kai anoixte to mono gia na fate pitsa pou paraggeile h mama.Ante mpravo..
chris_boss
24-10-2004, 15:42
Σε greeklish ήταν το άρθρο;
freak brother
24-10-2004, 15:57
sta souhdika alla to metafrasa
:P
fusika kai oxi ... alla exw xehasei na grafw ellhnika kai to metefera sta greeklish :/
o stefanidis mporei na paei na zisei sti diki tou souidia, to parisi.
h ellada einai opws einai kai mas aresei.
ManWhoSoldTheWorld
24-10-2004, 17:04
klassikos aristeroperiergos malakas pou vlepei tin ellada ws ena matso skata. ilithioi...
klassikos aristeroperiergos malakas pou vlepei tin ellada ws ena matso skata. ilithioi...
sauta pou leei den exei adiko. pros8eto kai ultra koultouriaris (ka8oti kritikos texnis) kai estet.
parolauta an itan ena epipedo parapera de 8a ton apasxolousan polla apauta gia ta opoia grafei. alla prepei na vgaloume kai ta pros to zhn, deixnontas stous desmwtes/sinanthropous mas to dromo.
freak brother
24-10-2004, 17:22
daxei xalara elitisths kai ypervolikos se shmeia alla ypervolikh einai kai h katastash kai apthn antitheth plevra.. opote shkwnei ypervolh pistevw
daxei xalara elitisths kai ypervolikos se shmeia alla ypervolikh einai kai h katastash kai apthn antitheth plevra.. opote shkwnei ypervolh pistevw
kinigos ximairwn (sic)
i katastasi einai ipervoliki. itan panta ipervoliki kai de vlepo pos kai giati mporei na allaksei auto. apopeira sineidhtopoihshs twn anagnwstwn tou kanei?
akoma ena na xame na legame thread gia enan na xame na legame stefanidi.
Kveldssanger
24-10-2004, 17:26
So what? Επειδή δε πρόκειται να αλλάξει ποτέ η κατάσταση πρέπει να λέμε ότι τα σκατά δεν είναι σκατά?
So what? Επειδή δε πρόκειται να αλλάξει ποτέ η κατάσταση πρέπει να λέμε ότι τα σκατά δεν είναι σκατά?
ego proswpika leo oti ta skata einai skata epeidi maresei na to leo. maresei na gkriniazo (original neoelliniki stasi). de gkriniazo pote gia tin "katastasi" perimenontas na allaksei. an 8eloume na milisoume sovara, tin apodexomaste kai asxoloumaste me kati pou mporei na allaksei.
klassikos aristeroperiergos malakas pou vlepei tin ellada ws ena matso skata. ilithioi...
Δυστυχώς έχουν τη συνήθεια να γίνονται υπερβολικοί και να ευτελίζουν έννοιες.
Αλλά η Ελλάδα είναι ένα μάτσο σκατά :P
Kveldssanger
24-10-2004, 17:52
Αλλά η Ελλάδα είναι ένα μάτσο σκατά :P
Yup, συνήθως λέγονται Έλληνες...
enitharmon
24-10-2004, 18:26
auto pes to sta 35 sou, afou prwta exeis zisei (i toulaxiston episkeftei gia merikes vdomades) 2-3 xwres
Αλλά η Ελλάδα είναι ένα μάτσο σκατά :P
Yup, συνήθως λέγονται Έλληνες...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Etsi einai. Etsi akribws.
Merika apo ta diamantia ths, bebaia, kata kairoys einai epishs kapoioi Ellhnes.
enitharmon
24-10-2004, 18:30
klassikos aristeroperiergos malakas pou vlepei tin ellada ws ena matso skata. ilithioi...
sauta pou leei den exei adiko. pros8eto kai ultra koultouriaris (ka8oti kritikos texnis) kai estet.
parolauta an itan ena epipedo parapera de 8a ton apasxolousan polla apauta gia ta opoia grafei. alla prepei na vgaloume kai ta pros to zhn, deixnontas stous desmwtes/sinanthropous mas to dromo.
diladi na to voulwsei kai na min ton apasxoloun auta, alla na asxolithei me themata allou epipedou?
auto ennoeis?
enitharmon pragmatika eleos.
les na min exo metro sigkrisis?
kai se alles xwres (oxi para polles alla arketes) exo paei ki exo meinei gia ikanopoihtiko xroniko diastima wste na katalabo ti paizetai.
mou aresei i ellada me ola ta strava tis, protimo tous anthropous tis apo opoiousdipote allous ston kosmo (well apo anthropous allwn ethnikotitwn pou gnorisa) kai diskola mporo na me fantasto se alli xwra ki eksisou (sigkritika milontas) ikanopoihmeno.
ki auto pou eipes ela na mou to peis sta dika sou 35.
klassikos aristeroperiergos malakas pou vlepei tin ellada ws ena matso skata. ilithioi...
sauta pou leei den exei adiko. pros8eto kai ultra koultouriaris (ka8oti kritikos texnis) kai estet.
parolauta an itan ena epipedo parapera de 8a ton apasxolousan polla apauta gia ta opoia grafei. alla prepei na vgaloume kai ta pros to zhn, deixnontas stous desmwtes/sinanthropous mas to dromo.
diladi na to voulwsei kai na min ton apasxoloun auta, alla na asxolithei me themata allou epipedou?
auto ennoeis?
kinigos ximairwn (sic)
i katastasi einai ipervoliki. itan panta ipervoliki kai de vlepo pos kai giati mporei na allaksei auto. apopeira sineidhtopoihshs twn anagnwstwn tou kanei?
akoma ena na xame na legame thread gia enan na xame na legame stefanidi.
enitharmon
24-10-2004, 18:53
ki auto pou eipes ela na mou to peis sta dika sou 35.
ti eipa twra pou tha eprepe na pw sta 35 mou?
enitharmon
24-10-2004, 18:55
i katastasi einai ipervoliki. itan panta ipervoliki kai de vlepo pos kai giati mporei na allaksei auto. apopeira sineidhtopoihshs twn anagnwstwn tou kanei?
xmmm
st'arxidia sou i katastasi? afou einai ypervoliki kai den allazei (mporei na allaksei) tin afinoume etsi?
de se pianw, really
i katastasi einai ipervoliki. itan panta ipervoliki kai de vlepo pos kai giati mporei na allaksei auto. apopeira sineidhtopoihshs twn anagnwstwn tou kanei?
xmmm
st'arxidia sou i katastasi? afou einai ypervoliki kai den allazei (mporei na allaksei) tin afinoume etsi?
de se pianw, really
i katastasi DE MPOREI NA ALLAKSEI. den einai diko mou thema h diko sou, einai 8ema 10 ekatomiriwn anthrwpwn. de 8a analoso to ligosto mou xrono asxoloumenos me to pos mporoume na veltiosoume tin koinwnia. opote an to 8es etsi, parto etsi. starxidia mou.
merikous den tous xalaei toso poly, autous pou pragmatika tous xalaei tous euxomai sto kalo kai na mas grafoun. opws "sto kalo kai me ti niki" euxomai stous outopistes deggials pou nomizoun oti mporoun na allaksoun ta koinwnika pragmata. ego 8a mai edo kai 8a gkriniazo opote mou ti dinei kati stin ellada pou zw. alliws den exei gousto.
enitharmon
24-10-2004, 20:35
gkriniaze gia ta pragmata pou den kaneis tipota gia na allakseis
dystyxws oi ypoloipoi 10 ekat. malakes einai san ki esena kai oi typoi typou deggial einai meionotita
Buddy Lackey
24-10-2004, 20:38
enitharmon soy eyxomai to mono pragma pou tha se provlhmatizei sta 35 na einai an tha prepei na allaksei h Ellada. Kai esy to eyxesai
enitharmon
24-10-2004, 20:40
mexri na ginw meros tis "mixanis" de se enoxlei na ampelofilosofw ligo omws e?
gkriniaze gia ta pragmata pou den kaneis tipota gia na allakseis
dystyxws oi ypoloipoi 10 ekat. malakes einai san ki esena kai oi typoi typou deggial einai meionotita
arxiste eseis kai 8a sas bro sto dromo.
pali kala pou paradexesai oti ampelofilosofeis. toulaxiston nomizo oti auta pou grafo einai pio apta.
Buddy Lackey
24-10-2004, 20:43
eni: arkei na mhn kathgoreis gia apraksia tous allous
Buddy Lackey
24-10-2004, 20:47
mastaz
enitharmon
24-10-2004, 21:09
mou tin eipate kai oi dyo twra... :roll:
Buddy, mporei sta 35 mou na me apasxolei to pws tha plirwsw to noiki ton epomeno mina, pws tha plirwsw tous giatrous, dikigorous kaidenkserwgwtiallo, pws tha ksanavrw noima sti zwi mou, pws tha vgw apo tin katathlipsi, pote epitelous tha kanw paidia, giati den mporw na vrw enan antra swsto kai alla tetoia omorfa. Mporei omws kai na min eimai synexws apasxolimeni me ton eauto mou kai na kanw tin Ellada kalyteri mesw tis en genei symperiforas mou.
To na kaneis mia katastasi kalyteri, den apaitei panta na vgaineis stous dromous kai na mazeueis ypografes
<Buddy_Lackey> diavases E ?
<Buddy_Lackey> exei synentefksh odisea tsenai
<Buddy_Lackey> kai leei oti metaniose pou ithele na sikosei thn shmaia
<Buddy_Lackey> kai den tha thele na shkosei thn ellhnikh
<Buddy_Lackey> dld asxoloumaste kathe xrono
<Buddy_Lackey> me ena malakismeno
<Buddy_Lackey> to opoio den kserei ti tou ginetai
<Buddy_Lackey> kai to opoio tin pswnizei pou vlepei ti mouri tou stis eidhseis
<despise_the_sun> nai
<despise_the_sun> tora pou perase sti sxoli
<despise_the_sun> kai einai araxtos
<despise_the_sun> bsk
<despise_the_sun> ok 8a to pw ki as pareksigitho
<despise_the_sun> oi alvanoi einai diplomates
<despise_the_sun> koutoponiroi
<Buddy_Lackey> entelws
<Buddy_Lackey> mounopanakia kanonika
<Buddy_Lackey> sto stefanopoulo eides ti legane?
<Buddy_Lackey> meta o allos shkone th shmaia edw
<Buddy_Lackey> gaydes
<despise_the_sun> xm
<despise_the_sun> neuriasa tora
<despise_the_sun> oxi neuriasa ok
<despise_the_sun> st@@mou bsk
<despise_the_sun> alla perysi sti stai elege
<despise_the_sun> ego niw8w ellinas kai einai timi mou an paro ti simaia alla afou de 8eloun den tin pairno
<Buddy_Lackey> gia to mpoutso
<despise_the_sun> kai oi progonoi mas itan kontoksaderfoi
<Buddy_Lackey> kathontai kai merikoi
<despise_the_sun> kai to 21 polemisame mazi
<Buddy_Lackey> kai yperaspizontai kati tetoia malakismena
<Buddy_Lackey> pou dhmiourgoun katastaseis
<Buddy_Lackey> kai yperaspizontai ta malakismena
<Buddy_Lackey> gia na min tous poun ratsistes
<Buddy_Lackey> kai fasistes
<Buddy_Lackey> kai ethnikia
<Buddy_Lackey> eleos
freak brother
24-10-2004, 21:43
gkriniaze gia ta pragmata pou den kaneis tipota gia na allakseis
dystyxws oi ypoloipoi 10 ekat. malakes einai san ki esena kai oi typoi typou deggial einai meionotita
mhpws esy eisai malakw kai oxi ta 10.000.000 atoma?
pia nomizeis oti eisai?
exeis vgei pote exw apo to spiti sou?
safhnan oi goneis sou prin pas exw?
gia xekola ligo
mexri na ginw meros tis "mixanis" de se enoxlei na ampelofilosofw ligo omws e?
to leei atomo pou fovate na katevasei mp3 apo to net mhn thn piasoune kai thn fulakisoun
LOL
xupna vges apthn outopia pou zeis :D
ManWhoSoldTheWorld
24-10-2004, 23:03
klassikos aristeroperiergos malakas pou vlepei tin ellada ws ena matso skata. ilithioi...
sauta pou leei den exei adiko. pros8eto kai ultra koultouriaris (ka8oti kritikos texnis) kai estet.
parolauta an itan ena epipedo parapera de 8a ton apasxolousan polla apauta gia ta opoia grafei. alla prepei na vgaloume kai ta pros to zhn, deixnontas stous desmwtes/sinanthropous mas to dromo.
diladi na to voulwsei kai na min ton apasxoloun auta, alla na asxolithei me themata allou epipedou?
auto ennoeis?
enitharmon, egw ola afta ta akouw tzaba kai verese , ola einai dithen. de pistevw oti i ellada einai ena matso skata, se allous teriazei se allous oxi. iparxoun kaloi ellines kai kakoi ellines opws kai kaloi anthrwpoi kai kakoi anthrwpoi. i sigekrimeni omada anthrwpwn "oi aristeroperiergoi" lene olo tis idies paparies peri anthrwpinis aksioprepeias, kritikaroun tin aploiki siberifora twn anthrwpwn, snobaroun ta pio enstiktodi sinaisthimata tou anthrwpinou eidous nomizontas oti afti i kritiki pou kanoun einai filosofimeni kai les kai einai oi idioi oi anamartitoi. to provlima tous den einai i ellada kai i katastasi, alla oti den exoun pragmatiko provlima kai oti apla olo kai kati tha tous fanei stravo. gia mena einai ena matso ilithioi kai tpt parapanw. eimai sigouros oti oti kai na einai i ellada de tha tous ekane. gia mena to atomo pou siniditopoihmena den ithele na parei o alvanos - i alvani ti simaia einai pio psila stin ektimisi mou apo afton ton dithen elit tipo pou sto plaisio tis politikis orthotitas grafei tis paparies tou.
freak brother
24-10-2004, 23:20
otan kapoios kanei kati kalo.. leme mpravo tou xehwrise klp.. otan kapoios kanei mia malakia... OOOOOOO KALA TI MALAKES POU EINAI OI ELLHNES!!! ...
wraia logikh
oi epituxies einai atomikes
oi malakies omadikes
enitharmon, egw ola afta ta akouw tzaba kai verese , ola einai dithen. de pistevw oti i ellada einai ena matso skata, se allous teriazei se allous oxi. iparxoun kaloi ellines kai kakoi ellines opws kai kaloi anthrwpoi kai kakoi anthrwpoi. i sigekrimeni omada anthrwpwn "oi aristeroperiergoi" lene olo tis idies paparies peri anthrwpinis aksioprepeias, kritikaroun tin aploiki siberifora twn anthrwpwn, snobaroun ta pio enstiktodi sinaisthimata tou anthrwpinou eidous nomizontas oti afti i kritiki pou kanoun einai filosofimeni kai les kai einai oi idioi oi anamartitoi. to provlima tous den einai i ellada kai i katastasi, alla oti den exoun pragmatiko provlima kai oti apla olo kai kati tha tous fanei stravo. gia mena einai ena matso ilithioi kai tpt parapanw. eimai sigouros oti oti kai na einai i ellada de tha tous ekane. gia mena to atomo pou siniditopoihmena den ithele na parei o alvanos - i alvani ti simaia einai pio psila stin ektimisi mou apo afton ton dithen elit tipo pou sto plaisio tis politikis orthotitas grafei tis paparies tou.
Eutyxws pou yparxoun tetoioi anthrwpoi kai perpatane kai oi ypoloipoi orthioi...
AngelOfSorrow
25-10-2004, 00:40
tis patridos mou i simaia exei xrwma galano
se allo thread tha sas pw kai to "eimai mia ellinopoula"
(nai,nai erxomai 2os...to eipe kai o panousis :P)
enitharmon
25-10-2004, 01:39
gkriniaze gia ta pragmata pou den kaneis tipota gia na allakseis
dystyxws oi ypoloipoi 10 ekat. malakes einai san ki esena kai oi typoi typou deggial einai meionotita
mhpws esy eisai malakw kai oxi ta 10.000.000 atoma?
pia nomizeis oti eisai?
exeis vgei pote exw apo to spiti sou?
safhnan oi goneis sou prin pas exw?
gia xekola ligo
freak eisai athlios pragmatika
to kaneis proswpiko to thema? arxizeis tis proswpikes epitheseis?
diladi o,ti sou eipa tha xrisimopoieitai enantion mou twra? sto allo thread pou sou apantisa, giati den apantises me ti seira sou?
mexri na ginw meros tis "mixanis" de se enoxlei na ampelofilosofw ligo omws e?
to leei atomo pou fovate na katevasei mp3 apo to net mhn thn piasoune kai thn fulakisoun
LOL
xupna vges apthn outopia pou zeis :D
s'euxaristw pou mou anoigeis ta matia...
ginesai kourastikos. petas malakies, den apantas se auta pou lew, les to diko mou kosmo outopia kai den to dikaiologeis kan. De tha me fylakisoun gia ta mp3, tha plirwsw arketes xiliades Eurw, ta opoia den exw oreksi na dwsw apla (kai giati den ta exw)
voulwse to twra i psofa aplws, giati na apantiseis sovara apokleietai
eyeamflesch
25-10-2004, 02:00
<Buddy_Lackey> diavases E ?
<Buddy_Lackey> exei synentefksh odisea tsenai
<Buddy_Lackey> kai leei oti metaniose pou ithele na sikosei thn shmaia
<Buddy_Lackey> kai den tha thele na shkosei thn ellhnikh
<Buddy_Lackey> dld asxoloumaste kathe xrono
<Buddy_Lackey> me ena malakismeno
<Buddy_Lackey> to opoio den kserei ti tou ginetai
<Buddy_Lackey> kai to opoio tin pswnizei pou vlepei ti mouri tou stis eidhseis
<despise_the_sun> nai
<despise_the_sun> tora pou perase sti sxoli
<despise_the_sun> kai einai araxtos
<despise_the_sun> bsk
<despise_the_sun> ok 8a to pw ki as pareksigitho
<despise_the_sun> oi alvanoi einai diplomates
<despise_the_sun> koutoponiroi
<Buddy_Lackey> entelws
<Buddy_Lackey> mounopanakia kanonika
<Buddy_Lackey> sto stefanopoulo eides ti legane?
<Buddy_Lackey> meta o allos shkone th shmaia edw
<Buddy_Lackey> gaydes
<despise_the_sun> xm
<despise_the_sun> neuriasa tora
<despise_the_sun> oxi neuriasa ok
<despise_the_sun> st@@mou bsk
<despise_the_sun> alla perysi sti stai elege
<despise_the_sun> ego niw8w ellinas kai einai timi mou an paro ti simaia alla afou de 8eloun den tin pairno
<Buddy_Lackey> gia to mpoutso
<despise_the_sun> kai oi progonoi mas itan kontoksaderfoi
<Buddy_Lackey> kathontai kai merikoi
<despise_the_sun> kai to 21 polemisame mazi
<Buddy_Lackey> kai yperaspizontai kati tetoia malakismena
<Buddy_Lackey> pou dhmiourgoun katastaseis
<Buddy_Lackey> kai yperaspizontai ta malakismena
<Buddy_Lackey> gia na min tous poun ratsistes
<Buddy_Lackey> kai fasistes
<Buddy_Lackey> kai ethnikia
<Buddy_Lackey> eleos
Mesa se ena xrono exw allaksei para poly pio poly apo tin allagi pou paratiras sti symperifora tou Tsenai.
Edit: frikmpro paFse pliz :(
eyeamflesch de nomizo pos egine kamia allagi. to leei kai meros tou log pou postara allwste.
eyeamflesch
25-10-2004, 02:31
eyeamflesch de nomizo pos egine kamia allagi. to leei kai meros tou log pou postara allwste.
TOTE DIKO MOY LATHOS STO "TWRA NEbRIASA" PART.
freak brother
25-10-2004, 06:27
[quote=enitharmon]gkriniaze gia ta pragmata pou den kaneis tipota gia na allakseis
dystyxws oi ypoloipoi 10 ekat. malakes einai san ki esena kai oi typoi typou deggial einai meionotita
mhpws esy eisai malakw kai oxi ta 10.000.000 atoma?
pia nomizeis oti eisai?
exeis vgei pote exw apo to spiti sou?
safhnan oi goneis sou prin pas exw?
gia xekola ligo
freak eisai athlios pragmatika
to kaneis proswpiko to thema? arxizeis tis proswpikes epitheseis?
diladi o,ti sou eipa tha xrisimopoieitai enantion mou twra? sto allo thread pou sou apantisa, giati den apantises me ti seira sou?
mexri na ginw meros tis "mixanis" de se enoxlei na ampelofilosofw ligo omws e?
to leei atomo pou fovate na katevasei mp3 apo to net mhn thn piasoune kai thn fulakisoun
LOL
xupna vges apthn outopia pou zeis :D
s'euxaristw pou mou anoigeis ta matia...
ginesai kourastikos. petas malakies, den apantas se auta pou lew, les to diko mou kosmo outopia kai den to dikaiologeis kan. De tha me fylakisoun gia ta mp3, tha plirwsw arketes xiliades Eurw, ta opoia den exw oreksi na dwsw apla (kai giati den ta exw)
voulwse to twra i psofa aplws, giati na apantiseis sovara apokleietai[/quote:2mmj59du]
LOL
mhpws fovase na vgeis kai apo to spiti mhn tuxwn xthphsei h al queda h exeis valei synagermo sto spiti mh se klepsoun oi kakoi alvanoi?
mhn ginese thyma ths propagandas kai mhn ginesai ypervolikh
freak brother
25-10-2004, 06:34
[quote=enitharmon]gkriniaze gia ta pragmata pou den kaneis tipota gia na allakseis
dystyxws oi ypoloipoi 10 ekat. malakes einai san ki esena kai oi typoi typou deggial einai meionotita
mhpws esy eisai malakw kai oxi ta 10.000.000 atoma?
pia nomizeis oti eisai?
exeis vgei pote exw apo to spiti sou?
safhnan oi goneis sou prin pas exw?
gia xekola ligo
freak eisai athlios pragmatika
to kaneis proswpiko to thema? arxizeis tis proswpikes epitheseis?
diladi o,ti sou eipa tha xrisimopoieitai enantion mou twra? sto allo thread pou sou apantisa, giati den apantises me ti seira sou?
mexri na ginw meros tis "mixanis" de se enoxlei na ampelofilosofw ligo omws e?
to leei atomo pou fovate na katevasei mp3 apo to net mhn thn piasoune kai thn fulakisoun
LOL
xupna vges apthn outopia pou zeis :D
s'euxaristw pou mou anoigeis ta matia...
ginesai kourastikos. petas malakies, den apantas se auta pou lew, les to diko mou kosmo outopia kai den to dikaiologeis kan. De tha me fylakisoun gia ta mp3, tha plirwsw arketes xiliades Eurw, ta opoia den exw oreksi na dwsw apla (kai giati den ta exw)
voulwse to twra i psofa aplws, giati na apantiseis sovara apokleietai[/quote:2r1r7cg8]
ti mou eipes? isws na kana malakia kai na mhn to eida
vasika ok
giati ginomai polu malakas kai exw thn stoixeiwdh noumosunh na to katalavw to stamataw edw
kai sorry ama to paratravhxa
den se antipathw katholou kai den hthela na paei se proswpikh epithesh
mhn to pareis proswpika apla den maresei auth h nootropia pou esy kai polloi alloi exoun kai isws na phga na to perasw ligo akraia
sorry
:?
enitharmon
25-10-2004, 12:19
krine me gia auto pou eimai twra ki oxi gia auto pou imoun stin efiveia mou i pou nomizeis oti eimai/imoun
an stamatiseis ta xtypimata katw apo ti mesi, dekti i sygnwmi
o stefanidis mporei na paei na zisei sti diki tou souidia, to parisi.
h ellada einai opws einai kai mas aresei.
poios eipe oti mas aresei ? Ektws an einai eirwniko ...
freak brother
25-10-2004, 16:52
krine me gia auto pou eimai twra ki oxi gia auto pou imoun stin efiveia mou i pou nomizeis oti eimai/imoun
an stamatiseis ta xtypimata katw apo ti mesi, dekti i sygnwmi
:)
esu ti nomizeis oti htan re freak ??
anarxokoumouni kai etsi ?
aggelhs_rwxamhs
25-10-2004, 22:47
Paidia h lysh einai aplh kai dikaih: eisai poliths? Apo opoy kai an eisai, exeis ta idia dikaiwmata kai ypoxrewseis. O tsenais htan poliths otan egine o ntoros?
katwrimos
26-10-2004, 17:35
Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
sumfwnw me ta parapanw ...
Raven Lord
26-10-2004, 17:43
τώρα τα είδα για τον τσενάι... στη συνέντευξή του δεν λέει ότι μετάνιωσε που ήθελε να σηκώσει τη σημαία. λέει ότι μετάνιωσε που είπε ότι νιώθει πιο πολύ έλληνας από ότι αλβανός. πού είναι το κακό σε αυτό?
Buddy Lackey
26-10-2004, 17:52
akoma xeirotera ? :roll:
Raven Lord
26-10-2004, 17:55
:?
katwrimos
26-10-2004, 18:21
akoma xeirotera ? :roll:
ok. Fantasou oti eisai stin germania (tyxaio paradigma), zeis ekei kai niotheis pio poly germanos para elinas. DIKAIOUSAI na sikoseis ti germaniki simaia kai merikoi neonazi antidroun me apotelesma apo anoterotita na ipanaxoriseis.
An eixes tetoia antimetopisi, tha metaniones pou dilones germanos nai i oxi?
Buddy Lackey
26-10-2004, 18:30
se ayth thn apisteyth ypothetika kai oxi kai teleia sygkrish (den einai kati analogo twn neonazi osoi antedrasan edw gia to thema shmaias) den tha elega ayta pu pe o tsenai, kai se 1 xrono na ta anairousa plhrws. Epishs o Tsenai metaniose 1 xrono meta kai LOGW THS SYMPERIFORAS KAI TIS ANTIMETOPISHS aytwn pou den ithelan na shkosei th shmaia? An einai eksaitias aytwn giati den metaniose ekeinh th stigmh na pei ena wraiotato "pwpw ahdiasa me tis malakies sas"? Twra einai sti Vostonh (magkia tou kai mpravo kai kamari tou) kai mporei na leei oti malakia thelei, simple. Athwes peristeres ginan oloi pia...
Raven Lord
26-10-2004, 18:40
καλά, δεν έχουμε περάσει ανάλογες εμπειρίες γι'αυτό μιλάμε όλοι... ας απαντήσει και ένας έλληνας μετανάστης που τον έχουν χαράξει νεο-ναζί...
και μπορεί για τον τσενάι, ο παραλληλισμός με τους νεοναζί να'ναι λίγο τραβηγμένος, αλλά δεν υπάρχουν αλβανοί εδώ που έχουν περάσει τέτοιες καταστάσεις?
katwrimos
26-10-2004, 18:42
antoni, se mia politismeni xora den tha ginotan kati tetoio. Profanos o tsenai, megalonontas kai spoudazontas siniditopoihse oti den einai ipoxreomenos na anexete tous neonazi tis elladas (i moni diafora me tis germanias einai i xrisi vias - i ideologia einai idia) kai metaniose pou ti theorouse patrida tou. Me vasi tin antimetopisi pou eixe apo tous simathites tou (nai, ipirxan kai aftoi pou ton iperaspistikan, alla sto telos egine afto pou ithelan oi neonazi) i antidrasi tou einai apolitos anamenomeni kai katholou katakritea.
necropethamenos
26-10-2004, 18:44
Epishs o Tsenai metaniose 1 xrono meta kai LOGW THS SYMPERIFORAS KAI TIS ANTIMETOPISHS aytwn pou den ithelan na shkosei th shmaia?
Well DUH!
de nomizeis oti kati tetoio pou tha epairnei KAI dimosiotita tha se stigmatize kai tha to skeftosoun gia kairo mexri na katalikseis se aftin tin apopsi?!
ti to periergo vlepeis? Diladi prepei kaneis na se prosvallei san anthrwpo epeidi thes na anikeis stin omada tou kai meta na eksakoloutheis na thes na anikeis kyriws stin omada tou?
Kai nai, ta leei apo ti vostwni. Kai an thewreis oti einai timi twn ellinwn to gegonos oti tha ton skizane san gata an ta elege ontas edw, e, ela sti thesi tou. Siga mi tou katalogisoume kai elleipsi pallikarias.
Buddy Lackey
26-10-2004, 18:48
Ravenlord :Nai yparxoun. Alla eytyxws kai opws les kai esy den einai to idio me neonazi sth Germania.
To thema me tous Alvanous exei ginei kourash apo polles pleyres. Nai ok den eimaste ratsistes klp, alla den xreiazetai na vgazoume me to tsigkeli thn dikaiologia gia oti malakia poun kai kanoun.
Buddy Lackey
26-10-2004, 18:55
antoni, se mia politismeni xora den tha ginotan kati tetoio. Profanos o tsenai, megalonontas kai spoudazontas siniditopoihse oti den einai ipoxreomenos na anexete tous neonazi tis elladas (i moni diafora me tis germanias einai i xrisi vias - i ideologia einai idia) kai metaniose pou ti theorouse patrida tou. Me vasi tin antimetopisi pou eixe apo tous simathites tou (nai, ipirxan kai aftoi pou ton iperaspistikan, alla sto telos egine afto pou ithelan oi neonazi) i antidrasi tou einai apolitos anamenomeni kai katholou katakritea.
E ok. Twra leme neonazi osous krazane ton Tsenai. Pragmatika eleos. To pate sto allo akro to thema entelws. H antidrash tou gia mena einia pragmata pou ta skeftotan edw alla poly apla den ton symfere na ta pei, kai twra leei "sas exw grammenous starxidia mou" TWRA OMWS E. Enw kallista mporouse na mh kanei sa malakismeno gia ena TOSO ANOUSIO THEMA opws lete, dhladh to na shkosei th shmaia. Kai afhste ta peri "epivraveyshs", siga ta wa. Den einai thema elleipshs palhkarias, einai thema tou oti kai aytos htan ena vlammeno opws kai ola me th shmaia se style "mou fagane to glifitzouri mou". To na tous grapsei eksarxis STARXIDIA htan oti prepei. Giati den to kane? Giati ola ta alvanakia theloun san trella na shkosoun th shmaia ? GIA MALAKIES pragmatika. Dhmiourgountai katastaseis apo to pouthena gia to tpt.
Raven Lord
26-10-2004, 18:59
ναι, αλλά ως μετανάστης που ήθελε να προσαρμοστεί αρμονικά σε μια ξένη κοινωνία, ήθελε να του φερθούν σαν ίσο. αν συνέβαινε το ίδιο σε'μενα δε θα με ένοιαζε καθόλου, αλλά η θέση του τσενάι ήταν εντελώς διαφορετική.
τεσπα, το θέμα είναι ότι ένα άτομο με προοπτική να προσφέρει τις υπηρεσίες του στη χώρα μας, αν είχαμε τη στοιχειώδη λογική να τον αντιμετωπίσουμε σωστά, την έκανε.... μια από τις πολλές περιπτώσεις....
nai alla auta (ta albanakia) exoun mia anasfaleia e3arxhs apo th epi8etikothta pou epikratei sthn koinwnia mas enantiwn tous ...
Opote nai einai dikaiologhmeno (imo) oti xreiazontai kai th probolh ...
Edw kati gkomenes pou eixame sto sxoleio pairnan th shmaia kai kala kai nomizan oti piasan to 8eo apo ta arxidia (opws kai oi apousiologoi) ... Kai kala ... NAI etsi ton dikaiologw kai katakrinw tous sumpatriotes mou pou fair8hkan san xwriatakia se ena toso asteio 8ema
thnx
Buddy Lackey
26-10-2004, 19:05
ναι, αλλά ως μετανάστης που ήθελε να προσαρμοστεί αρμονικά σε μια ξένη κοινωνία, ήθελε να του φερθούν σαν ίσο. αν συνέβαινε το ίδιο σε'μενα δε θα με ένοιαζε καθόλου, αλλά η θέση του τσενάι ήταν εντελώς διαφορετική.
τεσπα, το θέμα είναι ότι ένα άτομο με προοπτική να προσφέρει τις υπηρεσίες του στη χώρα μας, αν είχαμε τη στοιχειώδη λογική να τον αντιμετωπίσουμε σωστά, την έκανε.... μια από τις πολλές περιπτώσεις....
Dhladh to skhniko me th shmaia tou ekopse tin thelish prosarmoghs ? An tin sikone DEN tha efevge me YPOTROFIA GIA VOSTONH? mpa...
Egw pisteyw oti an eixe th stoixiodh krish, tha ekane pisw MONOS tou. Kai ayto tha didaskan oi alvanoi goneis sta paidia tous pou kala kanoun kai pernoun vathmous trellous kai ta ellhnakia to mpoulo. Tha tous ekshgousan giati den einai toso spoudaio ayto to pragma kai oti mporoun na kanoun pisw gia na mh dhmiourgithei thema. Efoson o nomos exei kena se ayto to thema, to kalytero tha htan na ginetai ayto. Giati to na kanei pisw ena alvanaki ginetai EYKOLA, oi ellhnares theloun NOMO gia na swpasoun.
Raven Lord
26-10-2004, 19:07
Dhladh to skhniko me th shmaia tou ekopse tin thelish prosarmoghs ? An tin sikone DEN tha efevge me YPOTROFIA GIA VOSTONH?
μιλάω για μετά... ούτως ή άλλως δεν έχει σημασία τώρα... δικαίωμά του ήταν να σηκώσει τη σημαία, πάντως, όπως και να'χει...
katwrimos
26-10-2004, 21:47
. Giati to na kanei pisw ena alvanaki ginetai EYKOLA, oi ellhnares theloun NOMO gia na swpasoun.
Iparxei nomos kai leei oti oi alvanoi dikaiountai na sikonoun tin eliniki simaia. Afto pou xriazetai einai anaskolopismos stous "neonazi"
Buddy Lackey
26-10-2004, 22:00
oloi ginan neonazi !@!@!
O nomos yparxei alla exei keno, opws polloi nomoi se polles xwres
katwrimos
26-10-2004, 22:14
Well, den exei kanena keno o nomos. Orizei oti ti simea krataei o mathitis me ton psilotero meso oro. Telos.
Einai safestati i nomothesia, aporo pou vlepeis to keno.
Accident _Of _Birth
26-10-2004, 22:21
...
Solo Carriera
26-10-2004, 22:25
σηκωσέ τη τη γαμημένη.
tamagothi
26-10-2004, 22:29
omg, to vrady tha dw ston ypno mou to dima na sikwnei ton parthenwna.
Solo Carriera
26-10-2004, 22:30
ΩΧ, ΟΧΙ. ΟΙ ΚΑΘΗΓΗΤΕΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΠΙΕΙΚΕΙΣ!
ΣΚΑΤΑ
Tonosalata
26-10-2004, 22:31
o xetfild simaioforos
Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
Απ'τις λίγες φορές που θα συμφωνήσω πλήρως με τον Κατώριμο.
Dragonlord
27-10-2004, 01:03
Ώχου αει γαμηθείτε πια,όσο έχετε βαρεθεί μερικοί με τη δικαιολόγηση των αλβανών άλλο τόσο έχω βαρεθεί κι εγώ με αυτό το "σταρχίδιαμας" attitude.Πριν 2-3 βδομάδες πέρναγα έξω από την Αγ.Βαρβάρα στα Πατήσια και ήταν μια ΚΑΡΙΟΛΑ θείτσα που φώναζε σε κάτι αλβανούς "να μαζέψουν το αλβανάκι,ακούς εκεί το αλβανάκι να παίζει με τους έλληνες".Ας είχατε κι εσείς τέτοια βιώματα από ΠΕΝΤΕ ΧΡΟΝΩΝ (ναι κάπου εκεί ήταν ο θύτης) κι ας μιλάγατε μετά.Νεοέλληνες,ε νεοέλληνες.
necropethamenos
27-10-2004, 11:04
Mpantilaki antimetwpizeis to thema entelws apostasiopoiimena, kati pou sigoura den tha ekanes an eisoun sti thesi tou idiou tou alvanou pou tou ferthikan san politi vou katigorias.
Ti den katalavaineis? Aporw!
1) Nomika itan kalymmenos! Safestata. Ma SAFESTATA OMWS. OPOIOS EINAI KALYTEROS SIKWNEI TI SIMAIA. POIOS EINAI KALYTEROS? O ALVANOS. POIOS THA SIKWSEI TI SIMAIA? O ALVANOS. Diladi prepei na kanw kai kaka?
2) Ithika eixes ena atomo me alvanous goneis na sou leei "aisthanomai pio ellinas ap'oti alvanos", na exei MATHEI oti den emathan ola ta ellinakia tou sxoleiou tou kai afto gamw ti psyxi sas einai TIMI pros ti xwra kai oxi apeili!! EINAI ENAS KSENOS POU AGAPAEI TOSO AFTO TO MEROS POU EKATSE KAI EGINE KALYTEROS APO TOUS NTOPIOUS STA NTOPIA MATHIMATA!!! EPREPE NA TOU TIN XARISOUN, OXI APLA NA TON AFISOUN NA TI SIKWSEI!!!
Diladi ftasame sto na apagorevoume se kapoion na aisthanetai ellinas epeidi den exei ton eparki METAFYSIKO DESMO TOU AIMATOS mazi mas.
3) Otan kapoios megalwnei se mia kseni xwra, PROFANWS einai evaisthitos se kapoia pragmata opws se diafores ratsistikes ekdilwseis ENANTION TOU PROSWPOU TOU!!!
MA TI DEN KATALAVAINEIS EDW? AFTOS APLWS GENNITHIKE APO ALVANOUS, DE DIALEKSE KAN NA ERTHEI EDW, KAI EXEI KATHE MALAKISMENO ELLINA ME NOOTROPIA EVRAIOU (GAMW TI XALKIA SAS GAMW) NA TOU LEEI "A DEN EISAI ISOS ME MAS!!"
E KAI EXEIS TIN APAITISI NA MIN METANOIWSEI???
DEN EINAI LIGO TRELLO AFTO?
KAI TON THEWREIS KAI MALAKA POU DEN TA EIPE AFTA OSO ITAN EDW?!!?!?!! MIPWS TON THEWREIS KAI MALAKA POU DE VGIKE STO DROMO NA FWNAZEI "GAMIOUNTAI OI ELLINES"?
PWS mporeis kai stirizeis aftin tin apopsi pou exeis gamwto?!
freak brother
27-10-2004, 15:16
Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
freak brother
27-10-2004, 15:17
Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
Louka
mou thymizeis tous tarifes pou len
pwww na mouna mia mera prwthypourgos kai tha vlepes..
eleos re
esy ti kaneis gia ola auta pou mastizoun thn Ellada?
zeis sto exwteriko me ta lefta twn goniwn sou kai apla diamarturese kai les oti h xwra exei provlhmata
auto mporei na to kanei opoiosdhpote
epanastates tou kanape enwtheite
Ithilmir
27-10-2004, 15:33
Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
Louka
mou thymizeis tous tarifes pou len
pwww na mouna mia mera prwthypourgos kai tha vlepes..
eleos re
esy ti kaneis gia ola auta pou mastizoun thn Ellada?
zeis sto exwteriko me ta lefta twn goniwn sou kai apla diamarturese kai les oti h xwra exei provlhmata
auto mporei na to kanei opoiosdhpote
epanastates tou kanape enwtheite
εντελώς μα εντελώς άκυρο. και ας πούμε οτι έχεις δίκιο σ'αυτά που λες -που δεν έχεις ' άλλο πράγμα λέει ο κατώριμος- το ότι κάποιος είναι "επαναστάτης του καναπέ" σημαίνει οτι αυτά που λέει είναι λάθος?Οτι δεν ισχύουν? Η οτι δεν έχει το δικαίωμα να μιλάει για αυτά καθώς αυτός δεν κάνει τίποτα για αυτό?
necropethamenos
27-10-2004, 18:33
Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
Louka
mou thymizeis tous tarifes pou len
pwww na mouna mia mera prwthypourgos kai tha vlepes..
eleos re
esy ti kaneis gia ola auta pou mastizoun thn Ellada?
zeis sto exwteriko me ta lefta twn goniwn sou kai apla diamarturese kai les oti h xwra exei provlhmata
auto mporei na to kanei opoiosdhpote
epanastates tou kanape enwtheite
re malaka, mi me kaneis na ton yperaspizomai
DE LEEI AFTO POU KATALAVES!!!
MATHE
NA
DIAVAZEIS!!!!!!
tip: diavaze pio arga.
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 18:55
Mpantilaki antimetwpizeis to thema entelws apostasiopoiimena, kati pou sigoura den tha ekanes an eisoun sti thesi tou idiou tou alvanou pou tou ferthikan san politi vou katigorias.
SWPATE RE PIA ELEOS. H SHMAIA DEN EINAI SHMANTIKH AMA TI SIKONEI ELLHNAS, ALLA KATHORIZEI AN O POLITHS EINAI VOU KATHGORIAS GIA TON ALVANO? TI EPATHE PIA O TSENAI, EFAGE KSYLO KLP? ELEOS OUTE KAN AMESO INTERACTION DEN EKANE ME OSOUS DIAFONISAN MAZI TOU. GIA THN AKRIVEIA DEN EPATHE TIPOTA APOLYTWS. APLA DEN TOU EKANAN TO XATHRI (TO OPOIO AFOU TO THEORITE GENIKA ASTEIO, PREPEI NA TO THEORITE ASTEIO KAI TO PEISMA TOU NA TI SIKOSEI. AYTH EINAI I ISOTITA POU KIRISETE? HAR.
Hremiste kai ligo.
O Panos eipe gia to 5xrono. An to 5xrono meta apo ena mhna thymatai ti tou eipe i theitsa me ta paidakia pou epaize,na mou ksyrisete ta frydia. APISTEYTO VIWMA ONTWS. TO ALVANAKI 5 XRONWN KATALAVE KAI ENIWSE TON RATSISMO APO TIN ATAKA TIS THEITSAS. ASXETA AN STO NHPIAGWGIO H' DHMOTIKO POU PAEI MPOREI NA TOU FERONTAI A-P-S-O-G-A. TO PERISTATIKO ME TH THEITSA THA TON KANEI OTAN MEGALOSEI NA EGKLHMATISEI ENANTION TOU ELLHNA!@!@!@!@! XALAROSTE .-
1) Nomika itan kalymmenos! Safestata. Ma SAFESTATA OMWS. OPOIOS EINAI KALYTEROS SIKWNEI TI SIMAIA. POIOS EINAI KALYTEROS? O ALVANOS. POIOS THA SIKWSEI TI SIMAIA? O ALVANOS. Diladi prepei na kanw kai kaka?
NA KANEIS KAI KAKA. Otan ftiaxnontai oi nomoi, einai ypothetika to TELEIO gia ekeinh th stigmh. Otan allazei oi koinwnikh katastash o nomos MPOREI NA EXEI KENA. KAI AFOU AYTH TH STIGMH OI KOINWNIKH KATASTASH EXEI ALLAKSEI, TOTE MPOREI KALLISTA NA ALLAKSEI KAI O NOMOS (KAI DEN LEW NA ALLAKSEI KOVONTAS TOUS ALVANOUS - ALLA LEGONTAS ENA WRAIOTATO "ANEKSARTITA APO KATAGWGH" GIA TON SHMAIOFORO
2) Ithika eixes ena atomo me alvanous goneis na sou leei "aisthanomai pio ellinas ap'oti alvanos", na exei MATHEI oti den emathan ola ta ellinakia tou sxoleiou tou kai afto gamw ti psyxi sas einai TIMI pros ti xwra kai oxi apeili!! EINAI ENAS KSENOS POU AGAPAEI TOSO AFTO TO MEROS POU EKATSE KAI EGINE KALYTEROS APO TOUS NTOPIOUS STA NTOPIA MATHIMATA!!! EPREPE NA TOU TIN XARISOUN, OXI APLA NA TON AFISOUN NA TI SIKWSEI!!!
Timi gia th xwra mou tha einai na erthei edw kai oti alaniarika pragmata mathei sth vostonh, na ta aksiopoihsei EDW. Twra ti skata timh einai gia th xwra ayto pou kanei mou les? Dhladh to "eyxaristw" pou emathe ellhnika kai ta vasika grammata sto sxoleio edw, einai oti twra leei malakies? KAI OXI DEN AGAPAEI AYTO TO MEROS. EIPE OTI TO METANIOSE. TO AGAPHSE TRELLA NAI. TO AGAPHSE TOSO POU ENA KAPRITSIO (NAI ENA KAPRITSIO EINAI H OLH ISTORIA) TON EKANE NA TO METANIOSEI? ELA RE. Toulaxiston i alvanida tou fetinou tzertzelou VGHKE KAI EIPE "DEN THA ALLAKSEI THN APOPSH MOU GIA THN ELLADA TO OLO SKHNIKO". Kai giati na tou ti xarisoun? AFOU DEN EXEI KANENA NOHMA TO NA SHKONEIS TH SHMAIA GIATI NA TOU TI XARISOUN? EPEIDI VGIKE PRWTOS? AYTH EINAI H APOLYTH EPIVRAVEYSH? MPRAVO. DHLADH TWRA VLEPETE TH SHMAIA WS EPIVRAVEYSH. OK!@!@!@
Diladi ftasame sto na apagorevoume se kapoion na aisthanetai ellinas epeidi den exei ton eparki METAFYSIKO DESMO TOU AIMATOS mazi mas.
KATSE, MONOS TOU TO METANIOSE. AN EINAI NA TO METANIONEI ENAS KSENOS GIA AYTO TO MALAKISMENO LOGO, KALA NA PATHEI.
3) Otan kapoios megalwnei se mia kseni xwra, PROFANWS einai evaisthitos se kapoia pragmata opws se diafores ratsistikes ekdilwseis ENANTION TOU PROSWPOU TOU!!!
Oti eipa prin. Trella ratsistikh ekdhlwsh. H APOTHEOSH TOU RATSISMOU. ERXETAI O HITLER KAI OI ELLHNES EINAI ENA VHMA PRIN NA SIKOSOUN SVASTIKES.
MA TI DEN KATALAVAINEIS EDW? AFTOS APLWS GENNITHIKE APO ALVANOUS, DE DIALEKSE KAN NA ERTHEI EDW, KAI EXEI KATHE MALAKISMENO ELLINA ME NOOTROPIA EVRAIOU (GAMW TI XALKIA SAS GAMW) NA TOU LEEI "A DEN EISAI ISOS ME MAS!!"
E KAI EXEIS TIN APAITISI NA MIN METANOIWSEI???
DEN EINAI LIGO TRELLO AFTO?
KAI TON THEWREIS KAI MALAKA POU DEN TA EIPE AFTA OSO ITAN EDW?!!?!?!! MIPWS TON THEWREIS KAI MALAKA POU DE VGIKE STO DROMO NA FWNAZEI "GAMIOUNTAI OI ELLINES"?
PWS mporeis kai stirizeis aftin tin apopsi pou exeis gamwto?!
sou eipa prin giati ton theorw malaka. Giati eimai SIGOUROS pws kathetai kai skeftetai "ti malakies ekana perysi kai den to afhna na pa na gamhthei" . Kai ayto den tha to leei logw ths symperiforas twn allwn, alla epeidi katalave oti den EXEI KAMIA SHMASIA TO OLO ZHTHMA. FYSIKA KAI EXW THN APAITHSH NA MH TO METANIWSEI. AMA LES "AGAPW THN PATRIDA MOU " (KAI STHN SYGKEKRIMENH PERIPTWSH ENNOOUSE THN ELLADA), DEN TO METANIWNEIS GIA TETOIES MALAKIES E-L-A-X-I-S-T-W-N. EIDALLWS, APLA LES "MALAKIES" GIA NA ENTYPWSIASEIS EKEINH TI STIGMH, OPWS EKANE AYTOS PERYSI.
Ayta. Paw na ftiaksw ton agkiloto stayro mou twra na fainetai wraia to vrady sto jasmine.
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 19:12
+ OTAN KYVERNHSH KAI GENIKA POLITIKH HGESIA (EKTOS APO 2-3 PSWMIADHDES) EINAI YPER SOU KAI NIWTHEIS POLITHS VOU KATHGORIAS KAI METANIWMENOS KLP E KALA NA PATHEIS KAI GTP.
freak brother
27-10-2004, 19:17
Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
Louka
mou thymizeis tous tarifes pou len
pwww na mouna mia mera prwthypourgos kai tha vlepes..
eleos re
esy ti kaneis gia ola auta pou mastizoun thn Ellada?
zeis sto exwteriko me ta lefta twn goniwn sou kai apla diamarturese kai les oti h xwra exei provlhmata
auto mporei na to kanei opoiosdhpote
epanastates tou kanape enwtheite
εντελώς μα εντελώς άκυρο. και ας πούμε οτι έχεις δίκιο σ'αυτά που λες -που δεν έχεις ' άλλο πράγμα λέει ο κατώριμος- το ότι κάποιος είναι "επαναστάτης του καναπέ" σημαίνει οτι αυτά που λέει είναι λάθος?Οτι δεν ισχύουν? Η οτι δεν έχει το δικαίωμα να μιλάει για αυτά καθώς αυτός δεν κάνει τίποτα για αυτό?
otan leei pws h apatheia den einai katakritea kai einai to prwto vhma gia ton shntiritismos kai o idios einai apathhs autoakyrwnetai
necropethamenos
27-10-2004, 19:48
Mpantilaki exeis toso ma toso lathos apopsi pou den antexw kala kala na sou apantisw.
periliptika: To an tha sikwsei ti simaia den einai men simantiko gia ti synexeia tis zwis ston planiti mas, ALLA AFTO DEN SIMAINEI OTI DEN APOTELEI MIA ADIKIA EIS VAROS TOU. Vevaiws kai einai SYMVOLIKI epivravefsi, KAI PROSWPIKA TI THEWRW KAI ILITHIA!!
To thema omws den einai to EIDOS tis epivravefsis, to thema einai oti KAPOIOS ELLINAS STI THESI TOU tha eixe vravefthei me afton (estw, ton ilithio) tropo. Alla aftos oxi, GIATI EINAI ALVANOS. DUH!
AN AFTO DE SOU FAINETAI RATSISTIKO, TI NA SOU PW RE GAMWTO, KOITA ENA LEKSIKO!
TO GEGONOS OTI DEN PROKEITAI GIA FONO DEN TO KANEI MI RATSISTIKO!!!
Kai to provlima tou den tha itan aplws oti "a de sikwsa ti simaia" giati STARXIDIA tou (An einai eksypnos). To provlima tou tha einai oti eixe ena dikaiwma na vravefthei gia kati KAI TOU TO STERISAN.
E RE MALAKA DEN EINAI OLOI SAN EMAS, GENNIMENOI EDW ME EKSASFALISMENI ETHNIKI APODOXI (MIAS KAI EIMASTE APOGONOI TOU TIMIMENOU ENDOKSOU MEGALEKSANDROU OLOI MAS), KAI AFTOI POU PREPEI NA PROSPATHISOUN GIA AFTIN TIN APODOXI MALLON APOGOITEVONTAI OTAN TOUS APORRIPTOUN PAROTI PETYXAN KALYTERA KAI APO TOUS NTOPIOUS!!!!!
A kai an i apopsi sou stirizetai sto oti eisai sigouros gia to ti pistevei kapoios allos, e, den einai kai oti pio credible!!!
necropethamenos
27-10-2004, 19:51
[quote=katwrimos]Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
Louka
mou thymizeis tous tarifes pou len
pwww na mouna mia mera prwthypourgos kai tha vlepes..
eleos re
esy ti kaneis gia ola auta pou mastizoun thn Ellada?
zeis sto exwteriko me ta lefta twn goniwn sou kai apla diamarturese kai les oti h xwra exei provlhmata
auto mporei na to kanei opoiosdhpote
epanastates tou kanape enwtheite
εντελώς μα εντελώς άκυρο. και ας πούμε οτι έχεις δίκιο σ'αυτά που λες -που δεν έχεις ' άλλο πράγμα λέει ο κατώριμος- το ότι κάποιος είναι "επαναστάτης του καναπέ" σημαίνει οτι αυτά που λέει είναι λάθος?Οτι δεν ισχύουν? Η οτι δεν έχει το δικαίωμα να μιλάει για αυτά καθώς αυτός δεν κάνει τίποτα για αυτό?
otan leei pws h apatheia den einai katakritea kai einai to prwto vhma gia ton shntiritismos kai o idios einai apathhs autoakyrwnetai[/quote:c6p4vyan]
paizei na pasxeis apo tin megisti sygxisi afirimenwn ennoiwn pou exw synantisei pote.
btw, i teleftaia sou protasi apla den simainei TIPOTA.
Ithilmir
27-10-2004, 19:52
[quote=katwrimos]Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
Louka
mou thymizeis tous tarifes pou len
pwww na mouna mia mera prwthypourgos kai tha vlepes..
eleos re
esy ti kaneis gia ola auta pou mastizoun thn Ellada?
zeis sto exwteriko me ta lefta twn goniwn sou kai apla diamarturese kai les oti h xwra exei provlhmata
auto mporei na to kanei opoiosdhpote
epanastates tou kanape enwtheite
εντελώς μα εντελώς άκυρο. και ας πούμε οτι έχεις δίκιο σ'αυτά που λες -που δεν έχεις ' άλλο πράγμα λέει ο κατώριμος- το ότι κάποιος είναι "επαναστάτης του καναπέ" σημαίνει οτι αυτά που λέει είναι λάθος?Οτι δεν ισχύουν? Η οτι δεν έχει το δικαίωμα να μιλάει για αυτά καθώς αυτός δεν κάνει τίποτα για αυτό?
otan leei pws h apatheia den einai katakritea kai einai to prwto vhma gia ton shntiritismos kai o idios einai apathhs autoakyrwnetai[/quote:3dqhtpcx]
OXI. ΤΙ ΛΕΩ ΤΟΣΗ ΩΡΑ?
Δεν αυτοακυρώνεται. Καθόλου. Και επίσης δεν εννοεί αυτό που κατάλαβες.
Το ότι λέει οτι "I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo." δεν έχει καμία εντελώς σχέση με το αμα είναι αυτός απαθής η όχι.
Anyway απειδή αυτό που κάνω είναι λίγο άκυρο, τον αφήνω να εξηγήσει αυτός τι εννοούσε
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 20:15
Mpantilaki exeis toso ma toso lathos apopsi pou den antexw kala kala na sou apantisw.
periliptika: To an tha sikwsei ti simaia den einai men simantiko gia ti synexeia tis zwis ston planiti mas, ALLA AFTO DEN SIMAINEI OTI DEN APOTELEI MIA ADIKIA EIS VAROS TOU. Vevaiws kai einai SYMVOLIKI epivravefsi, KAI PROSWPIKA TI THEWRW KAI ILITHIA!!
Ok einai diladi mia "ilithia adikia" 'h "adikia gia kati ilithio" KAI KANEIS TOSO KOPO NA TO YPERASPISTEIS? EYGE. ANAROTIEMAI GIA POSES PRAGMATIKES ADIKIES, PARAMENEIS ADIAFOROS. Epishs to "ADIKIA" einai VARIA LEKSH, kai fysika einai teleiws koufo na th xrhsimopoieis gia ena toso ILITHIO (symfwneis sto "ilithio") thema.
To thema omws den einai to EIDOS tis epivravefsis, to thema einai oti KAPOIOS ELLINAS STI THESI TOU tha eixe vravefthei me afton (estw, ton ilithio) tropo. Alla aftos oxi, GIATI EINAI ALVANOS. DUH!
AN AFTO DE SOU FAINETAI RATSISTIKO, TI NA SOU PW RE GAMWTO, KOITA ENA LEKSIKO!
TO GEGONOS OTI DEN PROKEITAI GIA FONO DEN TO KANEI MI RATSISTIKO!!!
RATSISMOS: NA PISTEYEIS OTI H MIA FARA EINAI ANWTERH KAPOIAS ALLHS (KAI PROFANWS MIA KATWTERH THS KAPOIAS ALLHS). SYGNWMH POU DEN VRISKW POUTHENA STHN OLH YPOTHESH THS SHMAIAS NA EFARMOZETAI RATSISMOS (EIDIKA OPWS TO LEEI TO LEKSIKO). EPISHS POLLOI ALVANOI/RWSOI/OUZMPEKOI STHN ELLADA SHKOSAN SHMAIA. E KAI KANEIS DEN TO DEIKSE GIATI HTAN FYSIOLOGIKO. KOLLHSATE OLOI STIN MEMONOMENI (OK MPOREI NA HTAN 2 KAI OXI MIA)PERIPTOSH POU KSEZOUMISAN TA MME. AYTOI POU DEN THELANE NA SHKOSEI TH SHMAIA, DEN THELANE OXI EPEIDH "EINAI KATWTEROS", ALLA EPEIDI EINAI APO ALLH XWRA. U ANTERSTANT? AYTO MALLON DEN EINAI RATSISMOS. ALLA OK ESY MPOREI NA TO THEOREIS KAI PROPOMPO NEOU OLOKAYTOMATOS
Kai to provlima tou den tha itan aplws oti "a de sikwsa ti simaia" giati STARXIDIA tou (An einai eksypnos). To provlima tou tha einai oti eixe ena dikaiwma na vravefthei gia kati KAI TOU TO STERISAN.
PWPW TOU PHRANE TO GLYFITZOURI E. KAI STENAXORITHIKE? KAI PIOS TOU TO STERISE? AMA ITHELE TI SIKONE. TON STHRIZE OLH H POLITIKH HGESIA KAI H KYVERNHSH. OPWS KANEI KATHE FORA. ALLA AKOMA KAI TO GLIFITZOURI TO THEOREIS KATI PIO SOVARO APO ENA "PANI".
E RE MALAKA DEN EINAI OLOI SAN EMAS, GENNIMENOI EDW ME EKSASFALISMENI ETHNIKI APODOXI (MIAS KAI EIMASTE APOGONOI TOU TIMIMENOU ENDOKSOU MEGALEKSANDROU OLOI MAS), KAI AFTOI POU PREPEI NA PROSPATHISOUN GIA AFTIN TIN APODOXI MALLON APOGOITEVONTAI OTAN TOUS APORRIPTOUN PAROTI PETYXAN KALYTERA KAI APO TOUS NTOPIOUS!!!!!
A kai an i apopsi sou stirizetai sto oti eisai sigouros gia to ti pistevei kapoios allos, e, den einai kai oti pio credible!!!
OTAN SE APODEXETAI H KYVERNHSH H IDIA KAI SOU LEEI MPRAVO KAI KOLLAS SE 2-3 VLAKES KAI APOGOITEVESAI EKSAITIAS TOUS, EXEIS ESY TO PROVLIMA. EIDIKA AMA ALLAZEIS GENIKA APOPSH GIA TH XWRA LOGW AYTOU.
Kata ta alla nai eimai lathos paei kai teleiose.
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 20:17
En oligois an oloi oi alvanoi hsan pia toso DIKAIOLOGHMENA (gia esas) eyaisthitoi, tote den tha xe meinei alvanos sthn Ellada.
chris_boss
27-10-2004, 20:23
Καλά άλλα κι άλλα λες Μπάντι.
Όταν είσαι πιτσιρικάς στους 2-3 βλάκες που σε περιτριγυρίζουν θα δώσεις σημασία. Και να δεχθώ ότι αυτός έχει το πρόβλημα στον εγκέφαλο, αυτό δεν αναιρεί το γεγονός ότι έγινε αδικία εις βάρος του. Και μπορεί για το Νεκροπεθαμένο ο λόγος να είναι ηλίθιος, αλλά για κάποιον άλλο μπορεί να μην είναι. Δύσκολο;
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 20:32
Poso pitsirikas vasika? O Tsenai an den kanw lathos einai 19-20 xronwn twra. Pitsiriki? Kathe allo. Elave kai amesh yposthriksh MEGALYTERH apo thn ... "katakraygh". Apo kei kai pera kai ilithios o ntoros, kai sigoura oxi "adikia". Adikia tha htan na evgene entolh apo anwthen na mh th shkosei.
chris_boss
27-10-2004, 20:39
Ε τι 19-20 τώρα; Τώρα έγινε η φάση ή πριν 2-3 χρόνια;
Τότε γιατί δεν τη σήκωσε; αν θυμάμαι καλά ο δήμαρχος δεν ήθελε να τη σηκώσει και δεν μπορώ να πιστέψω ότι δεν έβαλε το χεράκι του. Ακόμα κι αν δεν είναι αδικία το ότι δεν τη σήκωσε, δεν είναι "άδικο" για ένα άνθρωπο πάνω στην ηλικία που διαμορφώνει την προσωπικότητα του, να δέχεται τέτοιες ρατσιστικές εκδηλώσεις. Εκτός αν δεν τις θεωρείς ρατσιστικές.
necropethamenos
27-10-2004, 20:43
a) Kala den exeis anarwtithei giati den tou dwsane ti simaia? PROFANWS giati thewroun ton eafto tous anwtero apo afton!!! An ton thewrousan iso, akoma kai an itan apo alli xwra apla tha tou tin edinan.
Twra prepei na sou analysw giati ta ethnika symvola, IDIAITERA stin ellada, prokaloun tin aisthisi tis anwterotitas tou ethnous?
apla akou tin xalkia
apla akou posoi tin ypostiriksan
apla akou ti egine pou den pire o rouvas ti eurovision.
An eisai koufos de ftaime emeis.
NAI, O LOGOS EINAI OTI THEWROUSAN AFTOI POU TON EMPODISAN TIN RATSA TOUS ANWTERI TIS DIKIS TOU.
B) Ti na kanei tin ypostiriksi tis politeias otan o perigyros tou ( o mikrokosmos tou ) ton aperripse sto megalytero pososto tou?
episis eisai tyflos kai de vlepeis oti tetoia pragmata ginontai pantou gyrw sou kathe mera?
episis gia to
Ok einai diladi mia "ilithia adikia" 'h "adikia gia kati ilithio" KAI KANEIS TOSO KOPO NA TO YPERASPISTEIS?
DEN KATALAVAINEIS OTI TO PROVLIMA DEN EINAI TO GEGONOS ALLA TO FAINOMENO? OTI TO GEGONOS EINAI APLA MIA APO TIS EKFANSEIS TOY FAINOMENOU?
AFTO POU ME EKSORGIZEI EINAI AFTO TOU OPOIOU DEIGMA EINAI TO THEMA ME TI SIMAIA
EKANA KAI KAKA TELIKA - KATI ALLO AFTONOITO NA SOU EKSIGISW?
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 20:58
a) Kala den exeis anarwtithei giati den tou dwsane ti simaia? PROFANWS giati thewroun ton eafto tous anwtero apo afton!!! An ton thewrousan iso, akoma kai an itan apo alli xwra apla tha tou tin edinan.
Sou eipa prin. Esy mporeis na theoreis ayton ton logo nte kai kala kai sigoura.
Twra prepei na sou analysw giati ta ethnika symvola, IDIAITERA stin ellada, prokaloun tin aisthisi tis anwterotitas tou ethnous?
apla akou tin xalkia
apla akou posoi tin ypostiriksan
apla akou ti egine pou den pire o rouvas ti eurovision.
An eisai koufos de ftaime emeis.
NAI, O LOGOS EINAI OTI THEWROUSAN AFTOI POU TON EMPODISAN TIN RATSA TOUS ANWTERI TIS DIKIS TOU.
Pwpw kala komplexikos eisai? Vlepeis ratsistes pantou? Ti xaza paradeigmata mou les? Thn Xalkia kai ton Rouva ? Pou ok ta perneis sta sovara san paradeigmata enos tetoiou pithanou fainomenou ? .....
B) Ti na kanei tin ypostiriksi tis politeias otan o perigyros tou ( o mikrokosmos tou ) ton aperripse sto megalytero pososto tou?
Oxi MEROS tou perigyrou tou sigoura ton YPOSTIRIKSE. Opws kai MEROS ton katekrine. H pleiopshfia to kosmou GENIKA htan mazi tou.
episis eisai tyflos kai de vlepeis oti tetoia pragmata ginontai pantou gyrw sou kathe mera?
Wx sygnwmh. Den exw parei xampari ayto to tragiko fainomeno pou tha kanei kako ston anthrwpo.
Ma ti les? Profanws kai dinw shmasia sta SHMANTIKA fainomena ratsistikhs symperiforas OTIDHPOTE ANEFERES den einai shmantiko. Skouzeis/te gia MALAKIES.
episis gia to
Ok einai diladi mia "ilithia adikia" 'h "adikia gia kati ilithio" KAI KANEIS TOSO KOPO NA TO YPERASPISTEIS?
DEN KATALAVAINEIS OTI TO PROVLIMA DEN EINAI TO GEGONOS ALLA TO FAINOMENO? OTI TO GEGONOS EINAI APLA MIA APO TIS EKFANSEIS TOY FAINOMENOU?
An esy nomizeis oti diatrexoume kindyno apo ratsistes, tote esy exeis provlhma. Den psaxnw kai den vlepw pouthena ratsistes. Tha me peiseis twra oti ta malakismena pou ekanan thn katalhpsh einai ekkolaptomenoi ratsistes, ENW MPOREIS NA PARADEXTEIS OTI APLA DEN ITHELAN NA KANOUN MATHIMA? E? THA MOU PEIS OTI OI GONEIS TOUS EINAI RATSISTES 'H APLA ZHLIARIDES KAI VRIKAN EYKAIRIA NA LYSSAKSOUN? HREMHSE. PARE AYTO TO PARADEIGMA KAI VGALE TIN ANALOGIA GIA OTI KOUTO MOU PES. GIA TON ROUVA PX . NAI I MPOKOTA TSANTISTIKE GIA ETHNIKOUS LOGOUS 'H GIA TIN PARTI TIS KAI TA LEFTa? PWPW TI LEME RE GAMWTO.
Δε σταματάτε κάπου εδώ; Νομίζω πως αν συνεχίσει η συζήτηση, απλά να ανακυκλώνετε τα ίδια λόγια. Είπαμε τις απόψεις μας, ας το αφήσουμε εδώ.
chris_boss
27-10-2004, 21:03
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An esy nomizeis oti diatrexoume kindyno apo ratsistes, tote esy exeis provlhma. Den psaxnw kai den vlepw pouthena ratsistes.
Ούτε τρομοκράτες είδα πουθενά αλλά καποιοι είναι στη φυλακή
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 21:05
mporeis na apomonoseis kai allh mia protash pou vriskei "nohma" se mia oloklhrh paragrafo kai na kaneis to epomeno "eirwniko" sxolio.
chris_boss
27-10-2004, 21:06
mporeis na apomonoseis kai allh mia protash pou vriskei "nohma" se mia oloklhrh paragrafo kai na kaneis to epomeno "eirwniko" sxolio. Δύσκολο να βρω νόημα σε κάποιο από τα ποστ σου σε αυτό το τόπικ.
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 21:08
E GIA AYTO EVALA TO "NOHMA" SE EISAGWGIKA 1@!@!!@
chris_boss
27-10-2004, 21:12
Η ΣΗΜΑΙΑ ΣΤΗΝ ΟΥΖΜΠΕΚΑ!
morphine
27-10-2004, 21:12
:(
necropethamenos
27-10-2004, 21:33
mpantilaki elpizw otan tha deis to topic pio psyxraima na diakrineis oti egw sou grafw epixeirimata se sxesi me afta pou lew enw esy mou les synexeia oti vlepw pantou ratsistes.
den tous vlepw, yparxoun. To an afto pou synevi en prokeimenw den einai kati akraio den apotelei paragonta yposkelismou tou ratsistikou fainomenou stin ellada.
To oti exeis synithisei na to "dikaiologeis" (na min to vlepeis) den to kathagiazei.
Den tha pw alla pantws, kala einai gia mia mera.
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 21:40
Entaksi
sygnwmh pou adynatw na katalavw thn varythta tou epixeirhmatos (e pernw ena paradeigma) sou oti to peristatiko me ton rouva einai ena paradeigma tou ratsistikou fainomenous e.
Elpizw na katalaves vevaia oti ennoousa pws oi ratsistes DEN yparxoun sto thema me th shmaia. Kai sou ekshghsa sto proigoumeno megalo mou post giati den einai ratsistes kai apoti vlepw eipes epixeirhmata enantion autwn pou sou eipa (nai gia ton pragmatiko logo pou ta malakismena kanan tin katalhpsh lew kai oxi ton imaginary ratsistiko).
Ratsistika fainomena yparxoun se olo ton kosmo. ESY mporeis na onomatizeis oti thes etsi kai na tou dineis thn varythta pou nomizeis oti tou armozei.
Kai peri "sinithias" nai exw sinithisei na min zorizw thn ypostash mias antidrashs pros enan kseno gia na tin vgalw nte kai kala ratsistikh kai na kraygazw peri ayths (vlepe pali to thema me thn katalhpsh twn mathitwn)
necropethamenos
27-10-2004, 21:51
Kai peri "sinithias" nai exw sinithisei na min zorizw thn ypostash mias antidrashs pros enan kseno gia na tin vgalw nte kai kala ratsistikh kai na kraygazw peri ayths (vlepe pali to thema me thn katalhpsh twn mathitwn)
erm. I pigi tis antidrasis itan to gegonos oti itan ksenos. Oxi oti den iksere na mageirevei kala px.
episis oxi, den einai ola "de tha kanoume mathima". Giati en prokeimenw sou thymizw oti oi goneis kanane tis kinitopoiiseis (oxi opws twra). Kai oson afora to poioi ton stiriksan kai poioi oxi, apla akou radiofwno ena apogevma. Egw akousa proxtes mia ekpompi (ston flash) me afto to thema kai TOULAXISTON 85% twn akroatwn itan anendotoi yper tou na nomothetithei na apagorevetai na sikwnoun ksenoi elliniki simaia.
Den einai oti egw to vaftizw ratsismo afto, EINAI ratsismos.
Kaneis den einai arketa kalos gia na sikwsei ti simaia mas. Alla emeis eimaste. Poios apo tous 2 (emeis kai ton ypoloipo kosmo) einai anwteros?
Alla kai apla an koitouses ti paizei gyrw...
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 21:59
PWPW
einai theiko to pws apoklieis to profanes (tha prepe na pw "to aytonohto pou den katalaveneis"):
Einai ksenos kai den theloune na shkosei th shmaia
POU den shmainei "einai katwteros kai den theloume na shkosei th shmaia", "emeis eimaste anwteroi kai aksizoume perissotero".
Ayto to aplo pragma , ok? Apla katagetai apo allou. AYTO DEN EINAI ratsismos. Pes to opws theleis, alla oute ratsismos einai OUTE EPIKINDINO.
To les kai monos sou, h phgh ths antidrashs htan oti einia ksenos, OXI oti ton theoroun katwtero.
Kai esy vaftizeis ratsismo ayto me th dhmoskophsh pou les. OXI den einai ratsismos. Apo to 85% aytwn polloi tha sou poun oti den exoun provlhma me tous alvanous genika. Kai pithanon na sto poun apla kai omorfa "oxi DEN nomizw oti eimaste anwteroi kai aytoi katwteroi". ESY to vaftizeis opws theleis.
katwrimos
27-10-2004, 22:19
Einai ksenos kai den theloune na shkosei th shmaia
POU den shmainei "einai katwteros kai den theloume na shkosei th shmaia",
MA DEN EINAI KSENOS!!!! Einai elinas politis!! Diladi elines einai mono osoi exoun genithei apo elines goneis? EXEI TA IDIA DIKAIOMATA ME OLOUS OSOUS EXOUN TI GAMIMENI ELINIKI IPIKOOTITA, simperilamvanomenou kai tou na sikosei ti simaia. Tora an nomizeis oti osoi den exoun elines goneis, den dikaiountai na theorountai elines, malon eisai ratsistis kai den to exeis siniditopoiisei akoma.
Episis to gegonos einai POLY SOVARO, den prepei na antimetopizetai os ena memonomeno peristatiko. Giati dixnei apla oti stin ellada eniote mia omada "neonazi" iperisxiei ton nomon tou kratous (afou sto telos egine to diko tous).
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 22:25
Einai ksenos kai den theloune na shkosei th shmaia
Ayto LENE, den to lew egw.
Ara pes tous ilithious/vlakes/kathysterimenous, alla oxi ratsistes (h agaphmenh sas karamela e)
To gegonos einai asteio, kai to thimomaste mia fora to xrono kai xairomaste) Tsiou
katwrimos
27-10-2004, 22:28
Einai ksenos kai den theloune na shkosei th shmaia
Ayto LENE, den to lew egw.
Ara pes tous ilithious/vlakes/kathysterimenous, alla oxi ratsistes (h agaphmenh sas karamela e)
To gegonos einai asteio, kai to thimomaste mia fora to xrono kai xairomaste) Tsiou
MA EINAI RATSISTES GIATI PISTEVOUNE OTI ELINAS EINAI MONO OPIOS EXEI ELINES GONEIS!!!!
Buddy Lackey
27-10-2004, 22:29
OK ANOIKSE KAI ESY TO LEKSIKO!@@!@!@!
BlackMetal
27-10-2004, 22:32
osoi anisixoun gia ratsismo-ethnikismo stin ellada as kanoun ton kopo na doun ti pososta lamvanoun analoga kommata se xores tou eksoterikou kai ti pososta stin ellada.
eyeamflesch
28-10-2004, 00:43
osoi anisixoun gia ratsismo-ethnikismo stin ellada as kanoun ton kopo na doun ti pososta lamvanoun analoga kommata se xores tou eksoterikou kai ti pososta stin ellada.
O neo-laikizmos einai se anthisi stin Ellada. Apla stin Gallia, stin aFstria kai sti Latiniki Ameriki anadeixthikie pio nwris. Tous ftanoume me gorgous rythmoys omws.
enitharmon
28-10-2004, 02:11
ektos autou, stin Ellada oi perissoteroi psifizoun me vasi to proswpiko tous ofelos ki oxi ta politika tous pisteuw. Mporei na ypostirizoun ideologika akrodeksia kommata, alla tha psifisoun ND, epeidi auti tha tous valei sto dimosio/whatever.
@Buddy: o ratsismos den ekdilwnetai mono me fonous/ksylodarmous. Ektos autou, oti oi perissoteroi Ellines einai ksenofovoi (kai thrasydeiloi), mporw na sto vevaiwsw apo proswpiki empeiria
necropethamenos
28-10-2004, 03:25
OK ANOIKSE KAI ESY TO LEKSIKO!@@!@!@!
RE MPOUMPOUNA, ENNOOUME PROFANESTATA OTI I LOGIKI POU ANEFERE O KATWRIMOS LEEI: DEN EINAI ARKETA KALOS ELLINAS AFTOS POU PROERXETAI APO MI ELLINES GONEIS (DILADI APO ALLI RATSA)
GOT IT NOW?
POSO PIO MPROSTA STA MATIA SOU MPOREI NA EINAI?!?!?!?
Buddy Lackey
28-10-2004, 05:08
1 metro kai 32 ekatosta
necropethamenos
28-10-2004, 12:04
e pes to etsi!
Re tsag o tropos sou einai pragmatika aparadektos.
I eni kai o eyamflesh exoun dikio sta perissotera IMO.
Nomizo oti o cancer kai genikos ta atoma pou aspazontai ti filosofia "til elada tin agapame etsi kai se opion den aresei na paei stin ameriki" (btw afto to moto to efarmose stin ellada i xounta) einai thimata planis. Pistevoun diladi, oti diorthonontas ta opoia strava tis elladas, tha xathei i omorfia tis.
Kai eksigoumai. Re cancer, exases tipota pou egine to metro? Exases tipota pou zeis se mia xora me plithorismo 3%? Profanos oxi.
Etsi, den tha xaseis tipota an zeis se mia xora pou oi mpatsoi den einai dieftharmenoi, o stratos den einai domimenos me vasi ta vismata, oi eksetastes odigisis den ladonontai, oi polites tha einai ligotero ratsistes, to leoforio erxetai stin ora tou etc.
Diladi re cancer, pragmatika ti entiposi exeis? Oti an diorthothoun ta skata tis elladas tha xaseis afta pou pragmatika sou aresoun stin xora?
I apatheia den einai katakritea, alla einai to proto vima pros ton sintiritismo.
ego milisa gia tin idiosygkrasia twn ellinwn, oxi gia ta erga tous. ta POLY STRAVA tis elladas afenos den einai idion tis (dieftharmenoi mpatsoi iparxoun pantou px), ki afeterou de dior8onontai. de dior8o8ikan allou, 8a dior8o8oun edo?
tespa. osoi nomizete oti auta pou aneferes stin 3i apto telos paragrafo sou einai fixable, sto kalo kai me ti niki. osoi nomizete oti iparxoun xwres pou tetoia fainomena den ta sinanta kaneis, sto kalo kai na mas grafete.
se ayth thn apisteyth ypothetika kai oxi kai teleia sygkrish (den einai kati analogo twn neonazi osoi antedrasan edw gia to thema shmaias) den tha elega ayta pu pe o tsenai, kai se 1 xrono na ta anairousa plhrws. Epishs o Tsenai metaniose 1 xrono meta kai LOGW THS SYMPERIFORAS KAI TIS ANTIMETOPISHS aytwn pou den ithelan na shkosei th shmaia? An einai eksaitias aytwn giati den metaniose ekeinh th stigmh na pei ena wraiotato "pwpw ahdiasa me tis malakies sas"? Twra einai sti Vostonh (magkia tou kai mpravo kai kamari tou) kai mporei na leei oti malakia thelei, simple. Athwes peristeres ginan oloi pia...
me ta lefta tou nonou maki einai sti vostoni o tsenais.
kai genika o,ti eipe o buddy lackey itan sosto, an kai den ekatsa na ta diabaso ola. ksero oti simfonoume palaiw8en sauta ta 8emata. osoi diafonisate eiste fovikoi tis katigorias "apokalese me opws 8eleis, mastigose me alla MH ME PEIS RATSISTI". se ligo 8a mas peite oti den iparxoun mauroi kai asproi anthropoi alla einai mono sto myalo mas.
Ώχου αει γαμηθείτε πια,όσο έχετε βαρεθεί μερικοί με τη δικαιολόγηση των αλβανών άλλο τόσο έχω βαρεθεί κι εγώ με αυτό το "σταρχίδιαμας" attitude.Πριν 2-3 βδομάδες πέρναγα έξω από την Αγ.Βαρβάρα στα Πατήσια και ήταν μια ΚΑΡΙΟΛΑ θείτσα που φώναζε σε κάτι αλβανούς "να μαζέψουν το αλβανάκι,ακούς εκεί το αλβανάκι να παίζει με τους έλληνες".Ας είχατε κι εσείς τέτοια βιώματα από ΠΕΝΤΕ ΧΡΟΝΩΝ (ναι κάπου εκεί ήταν ο θύτης) κι ας μιλάγατε μετά.Νεοέλληνες,ε νεοέλληνες.
oi fauloi kykloi den kleinoun pote.
freak brother
30-10-2004, 09:13
ektos autou, stin Ellada oi perissoteroi psifizoun me vasi to proswpiko tous ofelos ki oxi ta politika tous pisteuw. Mporei na ypostirizoun ideologika akrodeksia kommata, alla tha psifisoun ND, epeidi auti tha tous valei sto dimosio/whatever.
@Buddy: o ratsismos den ekdilwnetai mono me fonous/ksylodarmous. Ektos autou, oti oi perissoteroi Ellines einai ksenofovoi (kai thrasydeiloi), mporw na sto vevaiwsw apo proswpiki empeiria
XAXAXAXAXAXAAXAXAXAX
foverh tekmiriwsh gia kati toso vary
necropethamenos
30-10-2004, 10:52
osoi nomizete oti iparxoun xwres pou tetoia fainomena den ta sinanta kaneis, sto kalo kai na mas grafete.
TI STO MPOUTSO? PALI TA IDIA?
OXI RE MALAKISMENO, DE THA PAME POUTHENA, THA KATSEIS EDW NA MAS AKOUS NA GKRINIAZOUME GIA TI MALAKIA POU DERNEI KAI SENA KAI OLOUS TOUS ELLINES. "S'OPOION DEN ARESEI NA FYGEI" LES KAI POTE DE PLIRWSAME FOROUS, POTE DEN KANAME TIPOTA, DEN EXOUME OIKOGENEIES KAI ZWES EDW PERA, I EFKOLI LYSI "AMA DE S'ARESEI FYGE".
ETSI PROSPATHEIS NA DIKAIOLOGISEIS TIN ELLEIPSI PRAGMATIKIS APANTISIS STO THEMA "ESENA TI SE XALASE NA SOU EPISIMANOUN TA SKATA STA OPOIA ZEIS"? ME TO "AMA DE S'ARESEI FYGE"? GAMW TO KERATO SOU KAI SENA KAI TOU STATUS SEEKER POU MOU TO EIXE PRWTOPEI AFTO!!!
SAS DIORISE O THEOS EPITROPOUS GIA NA LETE "AFTOS DE MILAEI, THA KATSEI. O ALLOS MILISE IIII TON POUSTI STO AMERIKA TWRA AMESWS!!!"
KAI NAI EISAI RATSISTIS. KAI AN DEN FOVASAI MI SE POUN RATSISTI, KATA VASIN TO APODEXESAI. KAI OK XREIAZETAI NA SOU KANW MATHIMA ITHIKIS GIA NA SOU APODEIKSW POSO KAKO EINAI NA EISAI RATSISTIS?
KAI OLA TA KEFALAIA NA TA THEWRISEIS FWNES!
EFXARISTW.
MALAKA.
@Buddy: o ratsismos den ekdilwnetai mono me fonous/ksylodarmous. Ektos autou, oti oi perissoteroi Ellines einai ksenofovoi (kai thrasydeiloi), mporw na sto vevaiwsw apo proswpiki empeiria
XAXAXAXAXAXAAXAXAXAX
foverh tekmiriwsh gia kati toso vary
Ε, πάρε τις στατιστικές έρευνες της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης. 43% του πλυθυσμού της Ελλάδος ξενοφοβικοί. Η έρευνα είχε παρουσιαστεί παλαιότερα στο φόρουμ.
ki afeterou de dior8onontai. de dior8o8ikan allou, 8a dior8o8oun edo?
Ναι, καλείται πρόοδος κι ευτυχώς είναι αναπόφευκτη. Σκέψου πόσες άσχημες νοοτροπίες που ίσχυαν πριν 50 χρόνια έχουν πλέον ελλατωθεί η σχεδόν εξαφανιστεί (όπως γάμοι στην ηλικία των 20 που είναι σαφώς μειωμένοι ή η αδυναμία, τότε, της γυναικός να πάρει διαζύγιο, παρά τη νομική κάλυψη).
Αλλά όλα αυτά άλλαξαν επειδή κάποιοι έβαλάν το χεράκι τους και δε κάθησαν με σταυρωμένα χέρια, όπως το 90% του πλυθησμού.
freak brother
30-10-2004, 11:51
@Buddy: o ratsismos den ekdilwnetai mono me fonous/ksylodarmous. Ektos autou, oti oi perissoteroi Ellines einai ksenofovoi (kai thrasydeiloi), mporw na sto vevaiwsw apo proswpiki empeiria
XAXAXAXAXAXAAXAXAXAX
foverh tekmiriwsh gia kati toso vary
Ε, πάρε τις στατιστικές έρευνες της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης. 43% του πλυθυσμού της Ελλάδος ξενοφοβικοί. Η έρευνα είχε παρουσιαστεί παλαιότερα στο φόρουμ.
to 43% den einai h pleiopshfia pantws
alla ti na peis..thrasydeile
freak brother
30-10-2004, 11:52
osoi nomizete oti iparxoun xwres pou tetoia fainomena den ta sinanta kaneis, sto kalo kai na mas grafete.
TI STO MPOUTSO? PALI TA IDIA?
OXI RE MALAKISMENO, DE THA PAME POUTHENA, THA KATSEIS EDW NA MAS AKOUS NA GKRINIAZOUME GIA TI MALAKIA POU DERNEI KAI SENA KAI OLOUS TOUS ELLINES. "S'OPOION DEN ARESEI NA FYGEI" LES KAI POTE DE PLIRWSAME FOROUS, POTE DEN KANAME TIPOTA, DEN EXOUME OIKOGENEIES KAI ZWES EDW PERA, I EFKOLI LYSI "AMA DE S'ARESEI FYGE".
ETSI PROSPATHEIS NA DIKAIOLOGISEIS TIN ELLEIPSI PRAGMATIKIS APANTISIS STO THEMA "ESENA TI SE XALASE NA SOU EPISIMANOUN TA SKATA STA OPOIA ZEIS"? ME TO "AMA DE S'ARESEI FYGE"? GAMW TO KERATO SOU KAI SENA KAI TOU STATUS SEEKER POU MOU TO EIXE PRWTOPEI AFTO!!!
SAS DIORISE O THEOS EPITROPOUS GIA NA LETE "AFTOS DE MILAEI, THA KATSEI. O ALLOS MILISE IIII TON POUSTI STO AMERIKA TWRA AMESWS!!!"
KAI NAI EISAI RATSISTIS. KAI AN DEN FOVASAI MI SE POUN RATSISTI, KATA VASIN TO APODEXESAI. KAI OK XREIAZETAI NA SOU KANW MATHIMA ITHIKIS GIA NA SOU APODEIKSW POSO KAKO EINAI NA EISAI RATSISTIS?
KAI OLA TA KEFALAIA NA TA THEWRISEIS FWNES!
EFXARISTW.
MALAKA.
h gkrinia den einai antidrash pantws , oute o wxaderfismos vevaia
to 43% den einai h pleiopshfia pantws
alla ti na peis..thrasydeile
Όχι, αλλά είναι ένα σοβαρό, επικίνδυνο ποσοστό. Και η σωστή λέξη είναι πλειονότητα.
freak brother
30-10-2004, 13:17
to 43% den einai h pleiopshfia pantws
alla ti na peis..thrasydeile
Όχι, αλλά είναι ένα σοβαρό, επικίνδυνο ποσοστό. Και η σωστή λέξη είναι πλειονότητα.
thanx
mhpws yparxoun kai pososta gia tous thrasydeilous?
Ναι, καλείται πρόοδος κι ευτυχώς είναι αναπόφευκτη. Σκέψου πόσες άσχημες νοοτροπίες που ίσχυαν πριν 50 χρόνια έχουν πλέον ελλατωθεί η σχεδόν εξαφανιστεί.
Αλλά όλα αυτά άλλαξαν επειδή κάποιοι έβαλάν το χεράκι τους και δε κάθησαν με σταυρωμένα χέρια, όπως το 90% του πλυθησμού.
+1. Ως μεταλλάδες (έστω και false, όπως εγώ) πιστεύω ότι πρέπει να είμαστε στο 10%. Οτιδήποτε άλλο είναι ηττοπάθεια και συμβιβασμός
eyeamflesch
30-10-2004, 15:03
Ναι, καλείται πρόοδος κι ευτυχώς είναι αναπόφευκτη. Σκέψου πόσες άσχημες νοοτροπίες που ίσχυαν πριν 50 χρόνια έχουν πλέον ελλατωθεί η σχεδόν εξαφανιστεί.
Αλλά όλα αυτά άλλαξαν επειδή κάποιοι έβαλάν το χεράκι τους και δε κάθησαν με σταυρωμένα χέρια, όπως το 90% του πλυθησμού.
+1. Ως μεταλλάδες (έστω και false, όπως εγώ) πιστεύω ότι πρέπει να είμαστε στο 10%. Οτιδήποτε άλλο είναι ηττοπάθεια και συμβιβασμός
AfTO POYPES EINAI SA NA LES PWS O wOtAn DEN EIN METALLAS. :(
necropethamene:
i katastasi einai ipervoliki. itan panta ipervoliki kai de vlepo pos kai giati mporei na allaksei auto. apopeira sineidhtopoihshs twn anagnwstwn tou kanei?
xmmm
st'arxidia sou i katastasi? afou einai ypervoliki kai den allazei (mporei na allaksei) tin afinoume etsi?
de se pianw, really
i katastasi DE MPOREI NA ALLAKSEI. den einai diko mou thema h diko sou, einai 8ema 10 ekatomiriwn anthrwpwn. de 8a analoso to ligosto mou xrono asxoloumenos me to pos mporoume na veltiosoume tin koinwnia. opote an to 8es etsi, parto etsi. starxidia mou.
merikous den tous xalaei toso poly, autous pou pragmatika tous xalaei tous euxomai sto kalo kai na mas grafoun. opws "sto kalo kai me ti niki" euxomai stous outopistes deggials pou nomizoun oti mporoun na allaksoun ta koinwnika pragmata. ego 8a mai edo kai 8a gkriniazo opote mou ti dinei kati stin ellada pou zw. alliws den exei gousto.
eyeamflesch
30-10-2004, 15:05
EPISIS NEKRONTENT MIN TRELENESAI ME TON KANSA, DEN EINAI RATSISTIS, APLA APOGOITEbMENOS. :|
necropethamenos
30-10-2004, 15:26
mipws kati den exw katalavei cancer?
eyeamflesch
30-10-2004, 16:58
http://red-nationalists.gate7.gr/NewsPhotos/ntavatzides.jpg
katwrimos
31-10-2004, 22:34
ego milisa gia tin idiosygkrasia twn ellinwn, oxi gia ta erga tous. ta POLY STRAVA tis elladas afenos den einai idion tis (dieftharmenoi mpatsoi iparxoun pantou px), ki afeterou de dior8onontai. de dior8o8ikan allou, 8a dior8o8oun edo?
tespa. osoi nomizete oti auta pou aneferes stin 3i apto telos paragrafo sou einai fixable, sto kalo kai me ti niki. osoi nomizete oti iparxoun xwres pou tetoia fainomena den ta sinanta kaneis, sto kalo kai na mas grafete.
Den eipe kaneis na apalifthoun kai na min iparxei oute enas dieftharmenos mpatsos kai oute enas ratsistis politis. Omos apo to na iparxoun merikoi dieftharmenoi mpatsoi os to na einai o kanonas i diafthora tis astinomias, iparxei terastia apostasi. Episis apo to na iparxei ena ethikistiko koma pou pernei 2% mexri to na iperisxiei i gnomi merikon fasistomoutron kai na mi sikonei ena paidaki ti simaia, iparxei terastia diafora.
Den leo ta panta na doulevoun roloi alla den katalavaino giati na eisai arnitikos sto na erthoume toulaxiston sta epipeda tis ditikis europis... diladi o dieftharmenos mpatsos na einai i ekseresi tou kanona kai o ratsistis politis perithoriaki miopsifia.
ego milisa gia tin idiosygkrasia twn ellinwn, oxi gia ta erga tous. ta POLY STRAVA tis elladas afenos den einai idion tis (dieftharmenoi mpatsoi iparxoun pantou px), ki afeterou de dior8onontai. de dior8o8ikan allou, 8a dior8o8oun edo?
tespa. osoi nomizete oti auta pou aneferes stin 3i apto telos paragrafo sou einai fixable, sto kalo kai me ti niki. osoi nomizete oti iparxoun xwres pou tetoia fainomena den ta sinanta kaneis, sto kalo kai na mas grafete.
Den eipe kaneis na apalifthoun kai na min iparxei oute enas dieftharmenos mpatsos kai oute enas ratsistis politis. Omos apo to na iparxoun merikoi dieftharmenoi mpatsoi os to na einai o kanonas i diafthora tis astinomias, iparxei terastia apostasi. Episis apo to na iparxei ena ethikistiko koma pou pernei 2% mexri to na iperisxiei i gnomi merikon fasistomoutron kai na mi sikonei ena paidaki ti simaia, iparxei terastia diafora.
Den leo ta panta na doulevoun roloi alla den katalavaino giati na eisai arnitikos sto na erthoume toulaxiston sta epipeda tis ditikis europis... diladi o dieftharmenos mpatsos na einai i ekseresi tou kanona kai o ratsistis politis perithoriaki miopsifia.
ti se kanei na nomizeis oti stis xwres tis ditikis europis oi dief8armenoi mpatsoi einai analogika ligoteroi apo tous edw?
anaforika me to deutero skelos tis protis paragrafou, vox populi vox dei. den katapatwntai akribws oi nomoi, apla den iparxei antipera ox8i (/antipalo pros autous pou onomazeis fasistomoutra deos), wste na eksisorropithei i katastasi. ki auto giati einai sovaroteroi twn prwtwn imo kai protimoun na asxoli8oun me simantikotera 8emata alla tespa.
episis vlepo kai zw, opws eipes, ton eksygxronismo tis xwras, me tous ri8mous pou ginetai. argoi h poly argoi, autoi einai kai den allazoun. simperanes aposa eipa oti eimai iper tis stasimotitas? de nomizo.
freak brother
31-10-2004, 22:51
sthn dutikh evrwph yparxoun megalutera pososta fasistikwn organwsewn apoti sthn ellada...epishs den yparxoun kan koumounistika aristera komata stis voules tous
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