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Tora teleytaia sylambano ton eayto mou na variete ta tragoudia pou diarkoun pano apo 4:30 - 5:00 lepta.
Eidika sto heavy metal kai to hard rock. Dhladh eleos. Se ayth th mousikh to 90% einai riff kouple refrain solo refrain kouple refrain telos. Poso na antekseis? Akoma kai to kalytero riff tou kosmou na exeis, ama to kopanas gia 5 lepta synexeia, tha to sixathei o kosmos.
Aporo: oi mousikoi akoun potE ayta pou grafoun? Kai ta vriskoun ikana na krathsoun to endaferon? Me ti kritirio apofasizoun oti ayto to kommati tha exei diarkeia 6:47?? Testaroun ta nevra mas?
Afou epiasa ton eayto mou na variete thanasima me kapoious diskous pou theorousa "kaloutsikous", evala na akouso kai kapoious pou theorousa "kakous". Ekei pragmatika tsantistika! Ma kala den exoun kamia aytognosia? Kai oi etaireies ta akoune prin ta kykloforhsoun?
Paradeigma: Black Symphony - Tears of blood. Panagia mou!!! Poso xalia mporei na paiksei kapoios power metal? Akouste ayto kai tha deite. Kai vevaia oi perissoteres "syntheseis" diarkoun pano apo 5 lepta.
blackbird
20-10-2004, 16:17
Ama variese tis meyales synthesis sto metal kai sto hard rock allakse kai to avatar sou plz!Kai otan akous to Stairway to heaven na to stamatas sta 4 lepta
TRAMPAKOULAS
20-10-2004, 16:29
kai egw pistevw pws to talhraki einai mia kalh diarkeia gia ena tragoudi.oi idees aneta oloklhrwnontai se 5 lepta.ama prospa8eis na kaneis tragoudia twn 7 leptwn, einai sxedon sigouro oti kapoia stigmh 8a th xaseis th mbala kai 8a to boukwseis to prama stis allages h tis epanalhpseis (kamia fora kai ta dyo).epishs h dianikh diarkeia gia ena disko einai 40-50 leptakia me 10 tragoudakia
blackbird
20-10-2004, 16:41
I diarkeia tou kommatiou exartate kai ap'to eidos tou kommatiou etsi den einai?Fantazeste to Hammerheart me mikra kommatia?De paizei...Vevaia oute to antistrofo yinete, opws o kalyteros diskos twn Slayer ehei mia dekaria kommatia se 29 lepta
En meri simfwnw me ton warlord.Yparxoun kai megala kommatia poy gamane omos akoma kai sto heavy metal.
Solo Carriera
20-10-2004, 16:58
αυτό το thread θα είχε περισσότερο ενδιαφέρον στο general discussion.
Kveldssanger
20-10-2004, 17:00
Nope, άμα είναι καλό το κομμάτι θα γαμάει είτε είναι 5 είτε 65 λεπτά... Από την άλλη υπάρχουν και 3λεπτα που σε κάνουν να βαριέσαι και τη ζωή σου.. Και δε μιλάω αποκλειστικά για μεγάλα σε διάρκεια κομμάτια με πολλές αλλαγές... Πολλές φορές και κάτι απλό μπορεί να σε καθηλώσει και ας διαρκεί πολύ...
BlackMetal
20-10-2004, 17:06
burzum
Kveldssanger
20-10-2004, 17:08
Και αυτό.. Το Tomhet είναι το τέλειο παράδειγμα...
@Blackmetal: Το Channeling the quintessence είναι βαρετό... Το Akercocke ψιλογαμάει...
The Butcher
20-10-2004, 17:09
ayto akrivws pou eipe o kveld- to poso kalo einai ena kommati den exei kammia sxesi me ti diarkeia tou. to thema einai na mporei na sou perasei ayto pou prepei, eite mesa se 30 deyterolepta eite mesa se 30 lepta (akraia paradeigmata k ta dyo).
vevaia otan milame gia tin katigoria tragoudiwn gia tin opoia fainetai na milaei o warlord, dld kommatia me apli domi k sygekrimena themata pou epanalamvanontai, fantazomai oti ontws mporei sxetika eykola ena kommati na katantisei vareto meta apo kapoia stigmi.
to idio isxyei k me oloklirous diskous- den einai tyxaio pou enw allote den katalavaineis pote perasan 70 lepta, se alli periptwsi den mporeis na antekseis oute ta 40...
hm synh8ws protimw na nai ta kommatia megalhs diarkeias - otan einai pragmatika endiaferonta se tetoies diarkeies de flyaroun alla ftanoun ayta pou exoun na 'poun' sto epakro opws prepei, einai kapws oloklhrwmena.
Vevaia ontws milwntas gia Heavy metal, Thrash metal, Power metal, Death metal kai tetoia eidh (enas xarakthrismos isws htan "mousikh gia xentmpangkingk"... alla ntaks) dyskola kapoio kommati paramenei endiaferon meta ta 5 lepta.
Ta megala kommatia epishs "megalwn" groups sxedon panta einai eph, kai ayto logw aytou pou eipa sthn arxh.
Mia aptis pio teleies syn8eseis ever (opws exoume ksanapei 23423 fores) einai to 60lepto Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness pou ntaks eksantlei oso paei thn tote empneush tou Tchort kai makari na diarkouse allo toso.
enitharmon
20-10-2004, 18:11
oi sun o))) se poia katigoria katatasontai?
Kingdom Gone
20-10-2004, 18:13
twn yperthewn
Buddy Lackey
20-10-2004, 18:31
nystagmenwn omws
peri topic , starxidia mou h diarkeia
nystagmenwn omws
peri topic , starxidia mou h diarkeia
private Pyle said it all.
private Pyle said it all.
den einai private aytos wre =p
this is an epos avatar btw
:offtopic:
Buddy Lackey
20-10-2004, 18:50
O kakos Paylos yponnoei oti moiazw me ton Pyle
I AM IN A WORLD OF SHIT
Kingdom Gone
20-10-2004, 19:15
You talk the talk, but do you walk the walk?
Ligoi katalaban ti thelo na po. Mallon den to eksefrasa kala:
Parte ena theiko APLO kommati ton 2:30, 3:00 lepton. Valte tou alla 3 lepta diarkeia. Malakia den tha vgei?
Dhladh skefthte to Bomber ton Motorhead 6lepto H to Paranoid H to Free Country ton Witchfinder General...
@ Blackbird: Kane to idio me to Immigrant Song.
Ennoeitai oti yparxoun xarismatikoi synthetes pou me anesh grafoun ena fovero 8lepto kommati. Alla einai h meiopshfeia.
Gia na grapseis ena 10lepto kommati, tha prepei na exeis thn aparaithth empneysh.
Ayto pou thelo na po einai oti oi mousikoi ths seiras einai VLAKES egomaneis pou gemizoun tous diskous tous me varetes paparies katastrefontas tis opoies kales idees tous.
Sixathika na vlepo mpantoules ths plakas (pou an eixan stoixeiodh aytognosia tha mporousan toulaxiston na me kanoun na peraso 45 eyxarista lepta) na paragemizoun me skoupidia tous diskous tous.
Carcass_
20-10-2004, 19:20
Vital Remains.
.&-
Ena apo ta kalutera kommatia pou exoun graftei sto death metal , einai panw apo 8 lepta ( Forever Underground ).
@warlord ayto akrivws leme apla to diatypwnoume diaforetika kai to saltsaroume me ta *anoixtomyala* akousmata mas =P
Vital Remains to Dechristianize pounai 9lepto gamaei.-
katatalla den exw idea ti lene ;p
Stormrider
20-10-2004, 20:00
ta tragoudia twn opeth diarkoun 10 lepta peripou kai den ta variemai katholou..
(ta tragoudia twn metallica sta st.anger itan ipervolika megala,an kaid en itan 10 lepta..)
necropethamenos
20-10-2004, 21:23
ntaks i geniki apopsi tou warlord mou fainetai swsti, analogizomenos trellous papares opws tous rhapsody.
e ok apo tin alli einai POLLA POLLA POLLA ta anw twn 5 leptwn kommatia pou goustarw.
ara den einai tosoi ligoi oi "talantouxoi", einai?
episis de nomizw oti an kapoios grafei mono mikra kommatia den einai talantouxos!
to pio "eksypno" sygkrotima apo afti tin apopsi pantws (tis diarkeias) einai oi Rage. Aftoi PANTA kanoun ta kommatia tous (akoma kai simera) oso akrivws megala xreiazetai.
plaka plaka oi rage einai i mpanta pou pernaei tin 2i i tin 3i akmi tis simera. Kammia alli mpanta den ypirkse pote toso "eggyisi" gia mena. Kai exei kai ton kalytero metal kitharista simera e. Off topic.
TRAMPAKOULAS
20-10-2004, 22:04
soundchaser gamhse
:offtopic:
necropethamenos
20-10-2004, 22:48
soundchaser gamhse
:offtopic:
a to akouses telika?
mlk ntaks ti kommatia, ti paragwgi, TI KITHARES THEE MOU
TRAMPAKOULAS
20-10-2004, 22:57
re sy to exw apo persy to xeimwna
g-a-m-h-s-e leme
TheHeartcollector
20-10-2004, 22:58
Ntaks,prepei na einai polu asxetoi aftoi pou tha grapsoun komati 5 lepton kai tha exei 2-3 riffs mono...
Oi perisoteres bandes pou goustaro exoun megales sintheseis alla me polla kai diafora riffs/melodies opote den katantaei vareto.
BlackMetal
20-10-2004, 23:02
burzum leme.
TheHeartcollector
20-10-2004, 23:10
burzum leme.
:worship:
BlackMetal
20-10-2004, 23:14
mikre vlaka auto to grapsa os antilogo sauto pou eipes prin.
Ntaks,prepei na einai polu asxetoi aftoi pou tha grapsoun komati 5 lepton kai tha exei 2-3 riffs mono...
Oi perisoteres bandes pou goustaro exoun megales sintheseis alla me polla kai diafora riffs/melodies opote den katantaei vareto.
afou loipon proskynas burzum katalavaineis oti eipes malakia prin e?
TheHeartcollector
20-10-2004, 23:24
PANTA ma panta uparxoun eksereseis...mia apo aftes einai kai oi burzum
Dragonlord
20-10-2004, 23:38
Ligoi katalaban ti thelo na po. Mallon den to eksefrasa kala:
Parte ena theiko APLO kommati ton 2:30, 3:00 lepton. Valte tou alla 3 lepta diarkeia. Malakia den tha vgei?
Dhladh skefthte to Bomber ton Motorhead 6lepto H to Paranoid H to Free Country ton Witchfinder General...
@ Blackbird: Kane to idio me to Immigrant Song.
Ennoeitai oti yparxoun xarismatikoi synthetes pou me anesh grafoun ena fovero 8lepto kommati. Alla einai h meiopshfeia.
Gia na grapseis ena 10lepto kommati, tha prepei na exeis thn aparaithth empneysh.
Ayto pou thelo na po einai oti oi mousikoi ths seiras einai VLAKES egomaneis pou gemizoun tous diskous tous me varetes paparies katastrefontas tis opoies kales idees tous.
Sixathika na vlepo mpantoules ths plakas (pou an eixan stoixeiodh aytognosia tha mporousan toulaxiston na me kanoun na peraso 45 eyxarista lepta) na paragemizoun me skoupidia tous diskous tous.
e stamata na akous mpantoules kai akou tous xarismatikous syn8etes pou les
BlackMetal
21-10-2004, 00:00
akyro auto.
sta vasika symfono me ton warlord.merika albums an itan pio mazemena tha akougontan poly euxarista.dld ok de tha itan ta aristourgimata ta idia,alla tha mporousan na apoteloun ena oreo akousma (de ginetai na akous synexeia MONO ta albums pou theoreis teleia-gamata ktl).
profanos oi dimiourgoi tous ta theoroun ok kai oi etereies to idio.
Dragonlord
21-10-2004, 01:14
e apla emena mou fainetai pws exw polla 8eika groups na asxolh8w akoma gia na anhsyxw gia tis mpantoules
atom_smasher
21-10-2004, 01:24
ooi black symphony gamoun.egw protimw ta kommatia na einai oso theloun oi dhmiourgoi tous na nai.apo kei kai pera eite mou aresoun eite oxi.an kai pan metron ariston.
Kingryche
21-10-2004, 03:54
O kat'eme kaliteros diskos tis persinis xronias eixe 5 kommatia apo ta 7 me diarkeia anw twn 10 leptwn kai ena 7lepto kommati.
:shock: Den to pistevo oti anaferthikan oi Rage kai oi Opeth san antiparadeigma sta osa leo.
Opeth = o ypnos o idios. Gia klotses.
Rage = h xrysh metriothta, h xara tou germanou metalla. Kai o Peavy einai asteios "ouoooof gioooumann mpoontatzz".
Sas prokalo. Valte opoiondhpote disko pou sas psiloaresei kai akouste ton prosektika. Poses fores tha peite "ayto tha mporous na leipei"?
Para polles.
Kai poses fores kata thn akroash enos diskou lete "kalos einai aytos" kai molis teleiosei den mporeite na thimithite ena riff, ena refrain mia fonhtikh melodia??
necropethamenos
21-10-2004, 09:43
Rage = h xrysh metriothta, h xara tou germanou metalla. Kai o Peavy einai asteios "ouoooof gioooumann mpoontatzz".
skasmos axriste anthrwpe! i gnwmi sou APLA DEN EINAI APODEKTI! (antikeimenika)
The_Painless
21-10-2004, 09:45
Otidhpote panw apo deka deuterolepta einai kalo :twisted:
enitharmon
21-10-2004, 14:05
kamia fora omws, ena kommati (i mia idea) einai toso kali pou thes na to akous mexri na koresteis. Etsi kamia fora megala kommatia de ginontai vareta (akoma ki an einai glykanalata)
Otidhpote panw apo deka deuterolepta einai kalo :twisted:
Diladi aporripteis tous Agoraphobic Nosebleed :P
Alla mallon atopo to sxolio mou mias kai o warlord anaferotan se metal groups.
eyeamflesch
21-10-2004, 17:30
Otidhpote panw apo deka deuterolepta einai kalo :twisted:
Diladi aporripteis tous Agoraphobic Nosebleed :P
Alla mallon atopo to sxolio mou mias kai o warlord anaferotan se metal groups.
Siga, posa tragoudia xamw twn 10 sekont exoun? Klein mein.
:shock: Den to pistevo oti anaferthikan oi Rage kai oi Opeth san antiparadeigma sta osa leo.
Opeth = o ypnos o idios. Gia klotses.
Ama den katexeis katholou apo to eidos einai logiko na min sou aresoun omws auto den simainei pws isxyei auto pou les. Opeth can kick your ass SO hard! :twisted: :P
Chopped In Half
22-10-2004, 11:30
μη το γαμάς, οι opeth έχουν κάποιες καλές ιδέες, αλλά ορίζουν τη μπάντα που παραφορτώνει τα κομμάτια και τους δίσκους της.
BlackMetal
22-10-2004, 11:37
orizoun ti varemara kai tin askopi flyaria.
blackbird
22-10-2004, 12:40
koita pleon ta meyala kommatia einai to trademark twn
opeth kati pou isws na efthinete yia ti meyli dimotikotita tous.Pantws paradehome oti se kommatia san to Black Rose Immortal to parakanoun(edw akoma kai o blitzer tha symfwnouse).Omws sto Blackwater Park as poume dyskola variese ta kommatia
Ok, ok.... Auti einai i gnwmi mou kai auti i diki sas kai den nomizw sas tin allaksw egw all oute kai eseis tin dikia mou. Ontws to Black Rose Immortal einai ypervolika megalo alla apo tote exoun wrimasei arketa synthetika.
@Chopped ennoeis parafortwmena apo riffs? Auto einai poly ypokeimeniko mias kai oi Opeth exoun ftiaksei ena diko tous styl opou ta polla riffs klp einai to vasiko xaraktiristiko.
The Butcher
22-10-2004, 14:55
eseis oi 4 teleytaioi pou grapsate gia tous opeth xazamares lete.
mono oi teleytaies lekseis pou egrapse o jimid einai alitheia.
teleytaies lekseis?
... "einai to teleytaio xarakthristiko"?
kata to "kai to pio shmantiko."?
=p
intint opeth = kourash, kai oxi toso idiaitero stylaki opws exoume ksanasyzhthsei.
The Butcher
22-10-2004, 15:01
ta polla riffs klp einai to vasiko xaraktiristiko.
(twn opeth ennoeitai).
k m'ayto de symfwnw 100% alla whatever :P
BlackMetal
22-10-2004, 16:48
to oti mporei na aresoun se poly kosmo (including mpoutser kai tzimint) de simainei oti ta tragoudia tous den einai ontos parafortomena.tora auto to "parafortoma" oi men ypostiriktes to eklamvanoun os "plithora apo riffs" = endiaferon/gamato ktl oi de mi-ypostiriktes (i polemioi,opos ego px) to eklamvanoun os mia vareti flyaria.
auta.
to provlhma einai otan ta groups travane apo ta mallia ena kommati mono kai mono gia na einai megalo.me to zori! de leei tipota omws ayto. ti dhladh...tha paleyoun gia na to kanoun mikro? merika tragoudia vgainoun megala ti na kanoume. anaferw 2 paradeigmata pou kapoios tha borouse na pei oti to finale tous einai paratravhgmeno. my dying bride - cry of mankind kai opeth - deliverance. borei na milhsei kaneis gi ayta??? to idio motivo alla dhmiourgoun trelh atmosfaira.
my dying bride - cry of mankind kai opeth - deliverance. borei na milhsei kaneis gi ayta??? to idio motivo alla dhmiourgoun trelh atmosfaira.
Oi Opeth einai varetoi, oi MDB oxi.
An ena riff/melwdia GAMAEI, tote de paizei prob na to akouw gia wres etsi sth monotonia.
Yparxoun kai alla (polu) travhgmena pou gamane. Jerusalem px :twisted: :dfinger:
When Black Roses Bloom
30-10-2004, 09:45
An to kommati den pianei ta 7 lepta kai anw (blepe Opeth kai Candlemass) kai den einai pio argo kai apo to replay den exei na leei. ARGA KAI MEGALA BASANISTIKA KOMMATIA FOREVAH!!! :dfinger:
my dying bride - cry of mankind kai opeth - deliverance. borei na milhsei kaneis gi ayta??? to idio motivo alla dhmiourgoun trelh atmosfaira.
Oi Opeth einai varetoi, oi MDB oxi.
An ena riff/melwdia GAMAEI, tote de paizei prob na to akouw gia wres etsi sth monotonia.
Yparxoun kai alla (polu) travhgmena pou gamane. Jerusalem px :twisted: :dfinger:
Is that a fact?
Ennoeis dld oti ta riffs twn Opeth den GAMANE?
oxi den gamane. de me kanoun tziz, de vriskw kati prwtotypo, ta variemai, xasmouriemai, fxarstw.
Buddy Lackey
31-10-2004, 22:57
An to kommati den pianei ta 7 lepta kai anw (blepe Opeth kai Candlemass) kai den einai pio argo kai apo to replay den exei na leei. ARGA KAI MEGALA BASANISTIKA KOMMATIA FOREVAH!!! :dfinger:
Profanws den exeis proseksei oti h megalh pleiopshfia twn tragoudiwn twn Candlemass den einai 7 lepta kai anw, opws kai den einai arga kai vasanistika klp
Epishs mh vazete sthn idia protash Opeth k Candlemass , kthnx
Safws kai den mpainoun stin idia protasi alla mono gia ton aploustato logo oti paizoun teleiws diaforetiki mousiki. Twra an esy ennoouses (leme twra...) logw aksias klp sorry alla eisai off. Auto den deixnei swsti skepsi.
Buddy Lackey
31-10-2004, 23:02
Nai deixnei aksiwma. Oi Candlemass gamane kai oi Opeth einai gia to mpoutso. :P
Wx tous evala sthn idia protash
Pera apo to "opadiko" tis fasi kserw oti katalavaineis auto pou lew opote den xreiazetai na synexisw. Min anaferete kammia alli mpanta stin idia protasi me tous Opeth. Fxrstw :P
eyeamflesch
31-10-2004, 23:05
Nai deixnei aksiwma. Oi Candlemass gamane kai oi Opeth einai gia to mpoutso. :P
Wx tous evala sthn idia protash
KAI STO PARAPANW SOY POST TOYS EBALES :D
mporoume na anaferoume tous COF sthn idia protash me tous Opeth omws.
(hoho another opeth flame)
mporoume na anaferoume tous COF sthn idia protash me tous Opeth omws.
(hoho another opeth flame)
Den sou kanoume tin xari "mod me proklitiki symperifora"! :P
Kveldssanger
31-10-2004, 23:09
Άμα πούμε και για τους Borgir όμως?
http://www.electricrequiem.com/viewtopic.php?t=6509 :wink: :P
"Aparadekti" ithela na pw, sorry! :D
tompernoun oi Metallica! tompernoun oi Metallica! kai oi Manowar! kai oi Maiden! kai oi Borgir! ole ole let the flame begin*!
edit: * (c)
5 pages. Siga mhn ta diabasw :P
Akouste Devil Doll pantws kai meta ta 10 lepta tha einai ypothesh mias klanias.
Kveldssanger
02-11-2004, 11:15
Οι Devil Doll είναι θεοί...
Kai liga les...
Exw mono ena tous omws :(
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