Peri metalikhs dhmosiografias {split apo ERWTHSHS!! PROS MET

[Buddy Lackey]

ke ego xalieme px me ayta pou pezoun tora oi Abdullah (sou ferno ena paradeigma to opio ime sigouros oti 8a "piaseis" logo bandas) ekatsa ke akousa to iliko prosektika ke ebgala to sumperasma mou, prin arxizo na krazo omos etsi...
Xrhsto den sarese to "Graveyard Poetry"? Sto doom-metal.com tou exeis kamei mia sxedon apotheotiki kritikh.

[Count_RaveN]

Xerome pou mphkes sto kopo na diabaseis thn kritikh mou sto doom-metal.com

Mono pou prepei na gnorizeis oti otna kanoume mia kritikh enos opoiodhpote hxografhmatos prepei na sebomaste ton dh,iourgo tou ke oxi na 8aboume xoris epixhrimata. Emena prosopika san Xrhstos to deytero album ton Abdullah den mou eipe ke polla -se sxesh me to debouto tous to opio me to argo ke skotino doom pou perieixe me kolise ston toixo-. Den exo omos to dikeoma na to 8apso me monadiko kritirio to prosopiko mou gousto.

Sthn kritikh thn opia anafereis entopizo ta arnitika ke 8etika stoixeia tou diskou xoris na parablepso na ekfraso thn aporia mou gia thn alagh ufous ton Abdullah h na psilo ironeyto to stoner rock bazontas th leksh sic se paren8esh sthn frash pou kaneis paste, opote en merh pernao ke th dikh mou apopsh.

H sobarothta mou epano sth mousikh dhmosiografia den mou epitrepei na fanatizome tsampa ke berese h opoiadhpote apopsh ekfrazete me epixhrimata. Nai den mou aresei h mousikh strofh ths bandas ala den mporo na 8apso ton disko -pou ine akioprepestatos- mono ke mono apo ayto to kritirio.

Ayta

[Buddy Lackey]

I discovered Abdullah through a compilation CD. The first track I heard from them was "The Black Ones". I could hardly believe my ears. Their doom metal was the finest that I had heard since a long time. Their debut came very soon and it was what we all expected it to be. A great masterpiece and one of the most important doom metal albums nowadays. Songs full of haunting dark melodies and a fucking doomy feeling are some of the features that made Abdullah to be one of the most important hopes of the doom metal genre in our days.

Time has passed and the band has returned with its second album called 'Graveyard Poetry'. Although they managed to keep all its doomy musical forms, the new stuff is different than their debut. Do not panic, we are not talking about serious musical changes. The band has simply managed to create a heavier and a little bit groovier, wall of sound. Basically we have some heavier, faster and groovier songs put together with songs in more traditional doom metal forms.

I would use the description "Heavy Rock and Roll" to describe the musical point of view of this album in general, but let's be more specific. We can find songs in faster tempo, electrified with groovy guitar riffs that will remind you of '70s rock 'n roll. The opening track of the album (Black Helicopters) and tracks like "A Dark But Shining Sun", "Deprogrammed" are typical examples. On the other side we have songs in the traditional doom metal forms, heavy, dark and melodic, songs like "Pantheistic" (my favorite track from this album), "Salamander", "Behold A Pale Horse" (with its haunting melody on keyboards) will take you to the mountains of doom once more. From time to time the band tries to show a more aggressive face for example in the track "They, the Tyrants", which is the fastest song of the band. If I heard the song without knowing who has written it, I could not believe that this is song from Abdullah!

Add to all these the very good -heavy but "clean" and ideal for this genre- production by Paul Hamann, the depressive but still so strong and melodic vocals by Jeff Shirilla and you will get an idea of the album. Abdullah have offered us a great album full of heavy dark and emotional music. I am sure that not only the fans of doom metal or "stoner rock" (sic) will enjoy the new album, but also everyone who is searching for something heavy, dark and emotional.

............
Xrhsto AYTH h kritikh deixnei oti to album sou pe POLLA (koinws SOU ARESE ARKETA). Aplo symperasma einai opoiou tin diavasei. Les MONO thetika sxolia (sxedon KANENA arnhtiko) kai osa nea stoixeia anafereis, ta anafereis me yfos pou deixnei enthousiasmo kai thetikh antapokrish twn aytiwn (sic) sou se ayta.

[WoTaN]

Hm,
esas den sas exei tuxei na agorasete ena cd,na to akusete,na to gustarete ARKETA alla meta apo polles akroaseis na allaxete gnwmi??
Emena pantos arketes fores.

[freak brother]

ke ego xalieme px me ayta pou pezoun tora oi Abdullah (sou ferno ena paradeigma to opio ime sigouros oti 8a "piaseis" logo bandas) ekatsa ke akousa to iliko prosektika ke ebgala to sumperasma mou, prin arxizo na krazo omos etsi...

[Count_RaveN]

H leksh krazo paaei sthn arnitikh mou apopsh peri alaghs styl h opia afora prosopika ke mono emena ke oxi thn antikimenikh aksia tou diskou.

Tespa as to klisoume edo. Den katalabenomaste me tous perissoterous apo edo eksalou.

[Amnesiac.]

IAbdullah have offered us a great album full of heavy dark and emotional music.


To zhtoumeno ine oti prosopika -sa Xrhstos ke mono- pote den xonepsa thn alagh ths bandas. Alagh sto logotypo, ayksish taxhtytas sta kommatia, groove ry8moi ktl EPIDI POLY APLA ayto pou goustara stous Abdullah htan to argo skotino doom tous pragma to opio elato8hke kata polu. Gia na mh makrigoro: Otan 8elo na akouso Abdullah akouo pada ton proto disko. Ton deytero exo na ton akouso apo thn epoxh pou ton ekana kritikh. Got my point?

xm de se kserw kan, den exw mpei pote sto doom-metal.com kai den exw diavasei ola ta posts twn proigoumenwn selidwn opote sorry an xanw kana epeisodio. ayto pou akolouthei einai mia kaloproaireti aporia mou.

i erwtisi mou einai apli : pws ginetai ena album pou DE SOU ARESEI POLY na to perigrafeis ws "a great album full of heavy dark and emotional music" ?

apoti katalava an kai de sou arese, to grapses epeidi "mantepses" oti gia to eidos tou einai fovero? mou fainetai parakseno, einai san na les oti katexeis mia periergi idiotita tou na anagnwrizeis tin antikeimeniki poiotita enos album, asxeta an esena sou einai adiaforo.


H sobarothta mou epano sth mousikh dhmosiografia [...]

sorry kiolas, alla stin kritiki den anafereis pouthena gia tin allagi styl, logotypou kai genika ola ta stoixeia pou se xalasan sto album. AYTI tha itan i gnwmi sou me epixeirimata.

o asxetos pou tha diavasei tin kritiki tha paei na agorasei ena album pou "I am sure that not only the fans of doom metal or "stoner rock" (sic) will enjoy the new album, but also everyone who is searching for something heavy, dark and emotional".

emena ayto de mou deixnei kanena sevasmo sti mousiki dimosiografia.

an to kaloskefteis, an oloi egrafan kala logia gia ena album me ti logiki oti "se kapoious allous tha aresei", de tha ypirxan xamiles vathmologies, para mono se akraies periptwseis.

kati tetoio telospantwn.

[eyeamflesch]

[quote=Count_RaveN]IAbdullah have offered us a great album full of heavy dark and emotional music.


To zhtoumeno ine oti prosopika -sa Xrhstos ke mono- pote den xonepsa thn alagh ths bandas. Alagh sto logotypo, ayksish taxhtytas sta kommatia, groove ry8moi ktl EPIDI POLY APLA ayto pou goustara stous Abdullah htan to argo skotino doom tous pragma to opio elato8hke kata polu. Gia na mh makrigoro: Otan 8elo na akouso Abdullah akouo pada ton proto disko. Ton deytero exo na ton akouso apo thn epoxh pou ton ekana kritikh. Got my point?

xm de se kserw kan, den exw mpei pote sto doom-metal.com kai den exw diavasei ola ta posts twn proigoumenwn selidwn opote sorry an xanw kana epeisodio. ayto pou akolouthei einai mia kaloproaireti aporia mou.

i erwtisi mou einai apli : pws ginetai ena album pou DE SOU ARESEI POLY na to perigrafeis ws "a great album full of heavy dark and emotional music" ?

apoti katalava an kai de sou arese, to grapses epeidi "mantepses" oti gia to eidos tou einai fovero? mou fainetai parakseno, einai san na les oti katexeis mia periergi idiotita tou na anagnwrizeis tin antikeimeniki poiotita enos album, asxeta an esena sou einai adiaforo.


H sobarothta mou epano sth mousikh dhmosiografia [...]

sorry kiolas, alla stin kritiki den anafereis pouthena gia tin allagi styl, logotypou kai genika ola ta stoixeia pou se xalasan sto album. AYTI tha itan i gnwmi sou me epixeirimata.

o asxetos pou tha diavasei tin kritiki tha paei na agorasei ena album pou "I am sure that not only the fans of doom metal or "stoner rock" (sic) will enjoy the new album, but also everyone who is searching for something heavy, dark and emotional".

emena ayto de mou deixnei kanena sevasmo sti mousiki dimosiografia.

an to kaloskefteis, an oloi egrafan kala logia gia ena album me ti logiki oti "se kapoious allous tha aresei", de tha ypirxan xamiles vathmologies, para mono se akraies periptwseis.

kati tetoio telospantwn.[/quote:1jqen764]

De ginetai na mi sou aresei ena eidos mousikis opote na mi sou aresei mia banda aFtou tou eidos wstoso omws na katalabaineis oti gia to xwro tis einai kali?

[Mitsmann]

Τελικα μια κριτικη πρεπει να γινεται με γνωμονα το τι γουσταρει ο ακροατης-κριτικος-μεταλοδημοσιογραφος η με το τι θα γουσταραν οσοι τον διαβασουν ???????

[Magellan]

esi ti milas re
ma8e mpala prwta

[Deggial]

Τελικα μια κριτικη πρεπει να γινεται με γνωμονα το τι γουσταρει ο ακροατης-κριτικος-μεταλοδημοσιογραφος η με το τι θα γουσταραν οσοι τον διαβασουν ???????

Η σωστή κριτική (ανεξαρτήτως κατηγορίας προϊόντος) περιλαμβάνει ένα περιγραφικό μέρος, το οποίο καλό είναι να απέχει απ'τις προσωπικές απόψεις του συντάκτη. Έπειτα ακολουθεί και η άποψη του συντάκτη, υποκειμενική ως αναμενόμενο, κι είναι θεμιτό να μην είναι επιθετικός. Αν δε του αρέσει η κατηγορία του προϊόντος, αυτό δεν είναι δικό του σφάλμα, κακώς τον έβαλαν να το γράψει αυτός. Εάν υπάρχουν αντικειμενικά κριτήρια (π.χ. benchmarks για προϊόντα hardware) καλό είναι να αναφέρονται πριν τις απόψεις του συντάκτη.

Και καλό είναι να αναφέρει πλαγίως αν η κριτική είναι "πληρωμένη" με εκφράσεις του τύπου "ναι μεν, αλλά".

[rockavlon]

ntaks an dineis se entelws "fans"-kritikous tis kritikes, exeis to fainomeno tou rixtou ena 10/10, synoptika, an einai kollhmenos anti-fan to thabei....
theleis enan sygkrathmeno. anthrwpo pistebw.

epishs. einai allo ena fainomeno. to onoma pou bathmologeis....

px. den einia ntroph na thapseis ta alternati-crap twn ryche i to st.anger, afou einai gia ton mpeo. kai nai ama skopeueis na paikseis kati entelws apomakro apo auto gia to opoio anagnwristhkes allakse onoma. fantazesai px tous grave digger, tyxaio onoma na paizounb AOR ?! m auto to onoma ?! E? OXI...... blepoume edw, COF - aristourghma, pou ta teleutaia meta to median den einai. DIMMU - pare 10 na xeis. to puritanic nai htan kalo. gia commercial-black. to deathcult, an den egrafe panw dimmu, tha xe parei 6 to poly.... auta.

[Kingdom Gone]

Τελικα μια κριτικη πρεπει να γινεται με γνωμονα το τι γουσταρει ο ακροατης-κριτικος-μεταλοδημοσιογραφος η με το τι θα γουσταραν οσοι τον διαβασουν ???????

Η σωστή κριτική (ανεξαρτήτως κατηγορίας προϊόντος) περιλαμβάνει ένα περιγραφικό μέρος, το οποίο καλό είναι να απέχει απ'τις προσωπικές απόψεις του συντάκτη. Έπειτα ακολουθεί και η άποψη του συντάκτη, υποκειμενική ως αναμενόμενο, κι είναι θεμιτό να μην είναι επιθετικός. Αν δε του αρέσει η κατηγορία του προϊόντος, αυτό δεν είναι δικό του σφάλμα, κακώς τον έβαλαν να το γράψει αυτός. Εάν υπάρχουν αντικειμενικά κριτήρια (π.χ. benchmarks για προϊόντα hardware) καλό είναι να αναφέρονται πριν τις απόψεις του συντάκτη.

Και καλό είναι να αναφέρει πλαγίως αν η κριτική είναι "πληρωμένη" με εκφράσεις του τύπου "ναι μεν, αλλά".

gia na perigrapsw kati prepei prwta na to antilifthw me tis aisthiseis mou. Otan antilamvanomai kati automata simainei oti pernaei apo ton egkefalo mou ara epireazetai apo to asyneidito meros tou myalou mou, to opoio periexei kriseis kai katigoroiopoiiseis gia ola exw ws twra antilipthei. Dld adynatoume na doume "apeutheias" to antikeimeno auto kath eautou, mono mia provoli sti tou stin noisis mas. Ara sigoura kai mai perigrafi enos antikeimenou (oxi mono enos kallitexnimatos) einai anapofeukta ypokeimeniki ston ena i ston allo vathmo, dld periexei kat anagki proswpikes kriseis tou perigrafontos.

Symperasma: to mono pou mporei na kanei kapoios einai na vrei enan syntakti me ton opoion symfwnei arketa ews poly kai na ton empisteuthei.

[rockavlon]

se periptwseis oxi protoemfanizomenhs mpantas sygkrineis kai me to parelthon ths oso ginetai. edw paizei i karamela - stasimothta proodos.

na rwthsoume to ekshs. an sas aresei lx to number of the beast, tha sas xalage h logikh tou synexeia? se idio yfos me efamilla kommatia ? OXI
an pali, allaksei to styl, as poume gia maintanous SOmewhere, pou pali maiden einia alla einai synthesized polles kithares... entaks na kai dixase einia petyxhmenh h allagh... akoma kai pio entones, allages... to thema einai na mhn xanetai i tautothta i na allazei entelws o hxos apo album se album. kai basika na exeis kai ta tragoudia E :P

emena me eksefraze arketa a tasos o stamatouk.

[warlord]

exo na diavaso sovarh diskokritikh se ellhniko periodiko pano apo 10 xronia.
Einai eykola antilhpto oti oi kritikoi den akoune pano apo 2 fores tous diskous prin grapsoun th malakia tous... Kai tis perissoteres fores o syntakths den exei kamia epafh me to group pou kritikarei (px teleytaio Blitzkrieg pou to dosane se hardcora!).
An den ksereis ti paizei ena group, den yparxei periptosh (ektos apo tis poly ksekathares) na katalaveis pos tha akougetai o diskos...
Gia mena, den tha eprepe na yparxei vathmologia. Mono perigrafh ths mousikhs.
Kai ekei pou gelao einai me tis epiroes. OLOI exoun epireastei apo Maiden / Priest.

[Kingdom Gone]

Gia mena, den tha eprepe na yparxei vathmologia. Mono perigrafh ths mousikhs.

poly vasiko auto nomizw

[Deggial]

gia na perigrapsw kati prepei prwta na to antilifthw me tis aisthiseis mou. Otan antilamvanomai kati automata simainei oti pernaei apo ton egkefalo mou ara epireazetai apo to asyneidito meros tou myalou mou, to opoio periexei kriseis kai katigoroiopoiiseis gia ola exw ws twra antilipthei. Dld adynatoume na doume "apeutheias" to antikeimeno auto kath eautou, mono mia provoli sti tou stin noisis mas. Ara sigoura kai mai perigrafi enos antikeimenou (oxi mono enos kallitexnimatos) einai anapofeukta ypokeimeniki ston ena i ston allo vathmo, dld periexei kat anagki proswpikes kriseis tou perigrafontos.

Symperasma: to mono pou mporei na kanei kapoios einai na vrei enan syntakti me ton opoion symfwnei arketa ews poly kai na ton empisteuthei.

Κοίτα, κάποια στοιχεία περιγραφικά δε τυχαίνουν υποκειμενικής χροιάς. Π.χ. θα πρέπει να αναφέρει κανείς 5-6 λογάκια για την ιστορία του συγκροτήματος και ποιά συγκροτήματα το έχουν επηρρεάσει. Ανεξαρτήτως αν αρέσει στον συντάκτη ή όχι, δίνει τη δυνατότητα στον αναγνώστη να πει, "Χέυ, αυτοί ακούγονται σαν τους Χ, Υ και Ζ, ίσως να μου αρέσουν". Επίσης, υπάρχουν κάποια τεχνικά κριτήρια που μπορείς να αναφέρεις για τη μουσική τους.


ntaks an dineis se entelws "fans"-kritikous tis kritikes, exeis to fainomeno tou rixtou ena 10/10, synoptika, an einai kollhmenos anti-fan to thabei....

Συμφωνώ. Εννοούσα κάποιον που του αρέσει η κατηγορία, όχι να είναι φανατικός οπαδός του συγκροτήματος. Δε θα έβαζα, λόγου χάρη, τον WoTaN να κριτικάρει Slipknot. Όμως, δε θα έβαζα και τον εαυτό μου να κριτικάρει Therion.

[Sarantis]

Gia mena, den tha eprepe na yparxei vathmologia. Mono perigrafh ths mousikhs.

poly vasiko auto nomizw


Ego pali nomizo oti i bathmologia einai para poli xrisimi. Diaforetika exeis
fainomena pou o kritikos grafei kai grafei gia to disko (thetika kai arnitika) kai sto telos den exeis katalabei ti iperisxiei, tin teliki entiposi pou tou afise telos panton...

[Kingdom Gone]

gia na perigrapsw kati prepei prwta na to antilifthw me tis aisthiseis mou. Otan antilamvanomai kati automata simainei oti pernaei apo ton egkefalo mou ara epireazetai apo to asyneidito meros tou myalou mou, to opoio periexei kriseis kai katigoroiopoiiseis gia ola exw ws twra antilipthei. Dld adynatoume na doume "apeutheias" to antikeimeno auto kath eautou, mono mia provoli sti tou stin noisis mas. Ara sigoura kai mai perigrafi enos antikeimenou (oxi mono enos kallitexnimatos) einai anapofeukta ypokeimeniki ston ena i ston allo vathmo, dld periexei kat anagki proswpikes kriseis tou perigrafontos.

Symperasma: to mono pou mporei na kanei kapoios einai na vrei enan syntakti me ton opoion symfwnei arketa ews poly kai na ton empisteuthei.

Κοίτα, κάποια στοιχεία περιγραφικά δε τυχαίνουν υποκειμενικής χροιάς. Π.χ. θα πρέπει να αναφέρει κανείς 5-6 λογάκια για την ιστορία του συγκροτήματος και ποιά συγκροτήματα το έχουν επηρρεάσει. Ανεξαρτήτως αν αρέσει στον συντάκτη ή όχι, δίνει τη δυνατότητα στον αναγνώστη να πει, "Χέυ, αυτοί ακούγονται σαν τους Χ, Υ και Ζ, ίσως να μου αρέσουν". Επίσης, υπάρχουν κάποια τεχνικά κριτήρια που μπορείς να αναφέρεις για τη μουσική τους.

Den exeis teleiws adiko, alla to 1o (istorika, texnika stoixeia) ta vriskeis kai alliws, den einai auti i douleia enos kritikou, enw nomizw pws to 2o (poia sximata to epireasan) einai kai pali kapws ypokeimeniko, analoga me to ti exei akousei o kritikos kai ara apo ti tah symperanei oti exei epireastei to sygkrotima.




Gia mena, den tha eprepe na yparxei vathmologia. Mono perigrafh ths mousikhs.

poly vasiko auto nomizw


Ego pali nomizo oti i bathmologia einai para poli xrisimi. Diaforetika exeis
fainomena pou o kritikos grafei kai grafei gia to disko (thetika kai arnitika) kai sto telos den exeis katalabei ti iperisxiei, tin teliki entiposi pou tou afise telos panton...

protimw auto para na anagetai se enan arithmo kati toso afirimeno oso to "poso-mou-arese-auto-to-album"

[Amnesiac.]

[quote=Amnesiac][quote=Count_RaveN]IAbdullah have offered us a great album full of heavy dark and emotional music.


To zhtoumeno ine oti prosopika -sa Xrhstos ke mono- pote den xonepsa thn alagh ths bandas. Alagh sto logotypo, ayksish taxhtytas sta kommatia, groove ry8moi ktl EPIDI POLY APLA ayto pou goustara stous Abdullah htan to argo skotino doom tous pragma to opio elato8hke kata polu. Gia na mh makrigoro: Otan 8elo na akouso Abdullah akouo pada ton proto disko. Ton deytero exo na ton akouso apo thn epoxh pou ton ekana kritikh. Got my point?

xm de se kserw kan, den exw mpei pote sto doom-metal.com kai den exw diavasei ola ta posts twn proigoumenwn selidwn opote sorry an xanw kana epeisodio. ayto pou akolouthei einai mia kaloproaireti aporia mou.

i erwtisi mou einai apli : pws ginetai ena album pou DE SOU ARESEI POLY na to perigrafeis ws "a great album full of heavy dark and emotional music" ?

apoti katalava an kai de sou arese, to grapses epeidi "mantepses" oti gia to eidos tou einai fovero? mou fainetai parakseno, einai san na les oti katexeis mia periergi idiotita tou na anagnwrizeis tin antikeimeniki poiotita enos album, asxeta an esena sou einai adiaforo.


H sobarothta mou epano sth mousikh dhmosiografia [...]

sorry kiolas, alla stin kritiki den anafereis pouthena gia tin allagi styl, logotypou kai genika ola ta stoixeia pou se xalasan sto album. AYTI tha itan i gnwmi sou me epixeirimata.

o asxetos pou tha diavasei tin kritiki tha paei na agorasei ena album pou "I am sure that not only the fans of doom metal or "stoner rock" (sic) will enjoy the new album, but also everyone who is searching for something heavy, dark and emotional".

emena ayto de mou deixnei kanena sevasmo sti mousiki dimosiografia.

an to kaloskefteis, an oloi egrafan kala logia gia ena album me ti logiki oti "se kapoious allous tha aresei", de tha ypirxan xamiles vathmologies, para mono se akraies periptwseis.

kati tetoio telospantwn.[/quote:7ungwwje]

De ginetai na mi sou aresei ena eidos mousikis opote na mi sou aresei mia banda aFtou tou eidos wstoso omws na katalabaineis oti gia to xwro tis einai kali?[/quote:7ungwwje]

xm pithanotata nai (an kai exw kapoies_sovares_amfivolies peri aytou). sti sygkekrimeni kritiki omws de fainetai kati tetoio.

[regularpaul]

off topic αλλα αν ακουσετε τα 2 τελευταια demos των Abdullah, θα παθετε πλακα...παιζει να μην τους αναγνωρισει καποιος... καμια σχεση με τα 2 πρωτα album, οι τυποι το πανε προς death rock αλα Acid Bath κλπ

[Amnesiac.]

off topic αλλα αν ακουσετε τα 2 τελευταια demos των Abdullah, θα παθετε πλακα...παιζει να μην τους αναγνωρισει καποιος... καμια σχεση με τα 2 πρωτα album, οι τυποι το πανε προς death rock αλα Acid Bath κλπ

grapsta sto virus plzkthx




















(to nickname mou sto irc einai AcidBath)

[eyeamflesch]

[quote=Amnesiac][quote=Count_RaveN]IAbdullah have offered us a great album full of heavy dark and emotional music.


To zhtoumeno ine oti prosopika -sa Xrhstos ke mono- pote den xonepsa thn alagh ths bandas. Alagh sto logotypo, ayksish taxhtytas sta kommatia, groove ry8moi ktl EPIDI POLY APLA ayto pou goustara stous Abdullah htan to argo skotino doom tous pragma to opio elato8hke kata polu. Gia na mh makrigoro: Otan 8elo na akouso Abdullah akouo pada ton proto disko. Ton deytero exo na ton akouso apo thn epoxh pou ton ekana kritikh. Got my point?

xm de se kserw kan, den exw mpei pote sto doom-metal.com kai den exw diavasei ola ta posts twn proigoumenwn selidwn opote sorry an xanw kana epeisodio. ayto pou akolouthei einai mia kaloproaireti aporia mou.

i erwtisi mou einai apli : pws ginetai ena album pou DE SOU ARESEI POLY na to perigrafeis ws "a great album full of heavy dark and emotional music" ?

apoti katalava an kai de sou arese, to grapses epeidi "mantepses" oti gia to eidos tou einai fovero? mou fainetai parakseno, einai san na les oti katexeis mia periergi idiotita tou na anagnwrizeis tin antikeimeniki poiotita enos album, asxeta an esena sou einai adiaforo.


H sobarothta mou epano sth mousikh dhmosiografia [...]

sorry kiolas, alla stin kritiki den anafereis pouthena gia tin allagi styl, logotypou kai genika ola ta stoixeia pou se xalasan sto album. AYTI tha itan i gnwmi sou me epixeirimata.

o asxetos pou tha diavasei tin kritiki tha paei na agorasei ena album pou "I am sure that not only the fans of doom metal or "stoner rock" (sic) will enjoy the new album, but also everyone who is searching for something heavy, dark and emotional".

emena ayto de mou deixnei kanena sevasmo sti mousiki dimosiografia.

an to kaloskefteis, an oloi egrafan kala logia gia ena album me ti logiki oti "se kapoious allous tha aresei", de tha ypirxan xamiles vathmologies, para mono se akraies periptwseis.

kati tetoio telospantwn.

De ginetai na mi sou aresei ena eidos mousikis opote na mi sou aresei mia banda aFtou tou eidos wstoso omws na katalabaineis oti gia to xwro tis einai kali?[/quote:3w0p0597]

xm pithanotata nai (an kai exw kapoies_sovares_amfivolies peri aytou). sti sygkekrimeni kritiki omws de fainetai kati tetoio.[/quote:3w0p0597]

Cool. De diabasa tin kritiki.

[Stormrider]

o monos pou aksizei kai empistevomai stis kritikes tou einai o xronopoulos...

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[Amnesiac.]

re mlka sympo posa fake accounts exeis?

[Kingdom Gone]

o monos pou aksizei kai empistevomai stis kritikes tou einai o xronopoulos...

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:rofl: that was a good one :rofl:

[Buddy Lackey]

e afou apotheonei tous Opeth !@!!@!@!!@!@!

[atom_smasher]

a egw den exw provlhma me kamia vathmologia tou hammer,mias kai auto diavazw.an kai empisteuomai perissotero ton xako kai ton xronopoulo.a kai tous aderfous zaxaropoulous.

[TRAMPAKOULAS]

toso xalia?

[VirusXI]

off topic αλλα αν ακουσετε τα 2 τελευταια demos των Abdullah, θα παθετε πλακα...παιζει να μην τους αναγνωρισει καποιος... καμια σχεση με τα 2 πρωτα album, οι τυποι το πανε προς death rock αλα Acid Bath κλπ

grapsta sto virus plzkthx

e!! psit!
opws elega k sto allo thread:

ante na akouseis ta kainouria demos twra na tous kse-paradexteis... opws kai gw molis - telika exei dikio o Count alla gia lathos yliko, to Graveyard gamaei, ta nea demos oxi.
... mou r8an shmera. telika den einai toso xalia, to demo 2003 mou psiloaresei (ein k ena kommati pou goustarw poly) enw to demo 2004 mou fainetai poly metrio.
Polyfernoun se Misfits pleon kai h fwnh einai skata.-

[freak brother]

o monos pou aksizei kai empistevomai stis kritikes tou einai o xronopoulos...

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egw empistevomai mono tis kritites tou THE LORD eidika autes pou exei sto rockcity.gr giati ekei poulane ta kalutera album tou kosmou pou tuxainei na vgainoun kai kathe mhna wow..!!

[lost_icon]

o monos pou aksizei kai empistevomai stis kritikes tou einai o xronopoulos...

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antikeimenikotatos o xronopoulos. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[atom_smasher]

agaphte trampakoula kai xeirotera!paw kai agorazw kai merika apo auta.kai 3ereis poio einai to apokorufwma ths vlakeias mou ? mou aresoun kiolas.gia na sovareutw ligaki.kales oi gnwmes kalo na akous mia allh apopsh alla panta exeis kai to proswpiko sou gousto.alla ws gnwston spania agorazw kati pou den exw akousei prohgoumenws....2-3 e3aireseis uparxoun oi opoies htan foveres agores telika...px slough feg!opote to oti akouw mia allh gnwmh h opoia ws ena shmeio einai sevasth se antithesh me muriades "gnwstes" tou antikeimenou pou akougontai de3ia kai aristera kai lene to makru kai to konto tous pou sthn telikh o kathenas auto kanei.eite legete xronopooulos eite "xrhsths tou er".opote protimw ton k xronopoulo ton opoio allwste sumpathw genikotera kai den mou thn dinei gia pollous kai diaforous logous.an kai to olo zhthma einai thema prothesewn pisteuw.an eisai kakoproairetos nai fusika mporeis na peis polla kai na ta deis ola arnhtika.an eisa kaloproairetos ola teleia.e sunhthws kapou sthn mesh vrisketai h xrush tomh.ekei stekomai kai gw.oute apo kei oute apo dw.kai epeidh sas kourasa kai kourasthka kai den 3erw an egine katanohto apo kanenan auto pou lew egw thn kanw.

ps a oi opeth den mou aresoun katholou.isws me merikes apopseis tou xronopoulou na sumfwnw oxi toso me ta mousika tou gousta.o xakos einai poio konta sta gousta mou etsi pshlos ntavrantismenos klp.xexe.

[After Dark]

egw empistevomai mono tis kritites tou THE LORD eidika autes pou exei sto rockcity.gr giati ekei poulane ta kalutera album tou kosmou pou tuxainei na vgainoun kai kathe mhna wow..!!
JEAN BEAUVOIR - "Chameleon"
Κοιτάζοντας το εξώφυλλο του album και παρατηρώντας τη φυσιογνωμία του Jean, εύκολα παρατηρεί κανείς ότι ο άνθρωπος πιο πολύ κινείται σε άλλα μονοπάτια μουσικά από αυτά του καθαρού metal! Κανένα πρόβλημα! Για την ακρίβεια ο Jean Beauvoir υπήρξε παραγωγός και συνθέτης σε συγκροτήματα όπως οι N-Sync, Kiss, The Ramones κτλ. Ο δίσκος κινείται σε καθαρά pop rock μονοπάτια! Ποια είναι η διαφορά όμως? Όταν μιλάμε για pop rock σήμερα με τίποτα δεν εννοούμε ούτε το pop των '80s ούτε το rock των '70s! Είναι ένα κράμα ανούσιου και άγευστου pop με ορισμένα σημεία με ηλεκτρικές κιθάρες! Ο δίσκος μου φέρνει πάρα πολύ σε Prince και George Michael…και δεν τους συμπαθώ καθόλου! Αν θέλετε να ακούσετε κάτι σε αληθινό pop και όχι pop rock ή alternative rock ή pop alternative rock (…δεν υπάρχει λογική), ακούστε από Michael Jackson το 'Billy Jean', το 'Thriller' ή το καλύτερο 'Beat it', το οποίο χωρίς αστεία είναι πολύ metal κομμάτι! Και για να κλείσω, αντί να ασχολείστε με τους γλυκανάλατους Prince, N-Sync, George Michael και Jean Beauvoir, αγοράστε το History του Michael Jackson…όλοι αυτόν έχουν φωτογραφία στο δωμάτιό τους!

Συνθέσεις : 6 / 10
Παραγωγή : 8 / 10
Σύνολο : 14 / 20
Στεφανάκης Αντώνης

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Joey_Allen]

Me eksairesh ton Seirhnakh kana 2-3 akoma dhmosiografous ppu kseroune kai kapia aksiologa site oloi oi alloi pou asxoloudai me thn ypo8esh metal sthn Ellada to kanoun apla gia na pairnoun ta promos tzaba.Einai asxetoi apla.Mas peiraxe o Countraven kai o ka8e Countraven pou sthn telikh den ton kserw kai den mas peirazei pou to metal hammer pou to diavazoune oloi ligo-poly eite to agorazoune eite to koitane apo filous tous den exei enan sydakth na asxoleitai me to aor/glam ktl.Oles oi kyklofories ths Frontiers 8avodai giati apla oi an8rwpoi den kseroune!!!!Oloi gia klwtsies einai.Nightwish,Opeth ktl.Ase na mhn synexisw.


Enas profitakos tou rock on

PS:Virus Xi avrio 8a pareis apadhsh gia rock on kai metal hammer kai tote 8a doume pios apo tous 2 mas einai profitakos.Ayto me to Xronopoulo pou egrapse kapios as kanw pws den to eida....

[Buddy Lackey]

Me eksairesh ton Seirhnakh
welcome back !@!@!@!@!@!@!

[VirusXI]

vre kalws ton ypermaxo ths lak! mas eleipses, dwse mas ta fwta sou =)
eide "dhmosiografia" k apanthse amesws ;) ;) ;)

[Witchkiller]

Me eksairesh ton Seirhnakh kana 2-3 akoma dhmosiografous ppu kseroune kai kapia aksiologa site oloi oi alloi pou asxoloudai me thn ypo8esh metal sthn Ellada to kanoun apla gia na pairnoun ta promos tzaba.Einai asxetoi apla.Mas peiraxe o Countraven kai o ka8e Countraven pou sthn telikh den ton kserw kai den mas peirazei pou to metal hammer pou to diavazoune oloi ligo-poly eite to agorazoune eite to koitane apo filous tous den exei enan sydakth na asxoleitai me to aor/glam ktl.Oles oi kyklofories ths Frontiers 8avodai giati apla oi an8rwpoi den kseroune!!!!Oloi gia klwtsies einai.Nightwish,Opeth ktl.Ase na mhn synexisw.


Elpizw m'ayto to post pou ekanes na min ennoeis oti o Seirinakhs einai sobaros dhmosiografos,etsi?

[Deggial]

Ο Σειρινάκης έχει κάνει διάφορα ευτράπελα στο παρελθόν, όπως να αντιγράφει άρθρα τρίτων.

[Witchkiller]

Ο Σειρινάκης έχει κάνει διάφορα ευτράπελα στο παρελθόν, όπως να αντιγράφει άρθρα τρίτων.

Ayto htan to prwto prama pou ithela na pw + to oti kanei kritikes se diskous oi opoioi anikoune se mousika eidh opou einai entelws asxetos.Thimate kanei to thapsimo tou Time Travelling Blues twn Orange Goblin?

[necropethamenos]

Me eksairesh ton Seirhnakh kana 2-3 akoma dhmosiografous ppu kseroune kai kapia aksiologa site oloi oi alloi pou asxoloudai me thn ypo8esh metal sthn Ellada to kanoun apla gia na pairnoun ta promos tzaba.Einai asxetoi apla.Mas peiraxe o Countraven kai o ka8e Countraven pou sthn telikh den ton kserw kai den mas peirazei pou to metal hammer pou to diavazoune oloi ligo-poly eite to agorazoune eite to koitane apo filous tous den exei enan sydakth na asxoleitai me to aor/glam ktl.Oles oi kyklofories ths Frontiers 8avodai giati apla oi an8rwpoi den kseroune!!!!Oloi gia klwtsies einai.Nightwish,Opeth ktl.Ase na mhn synexisw.


Elpizw m'ayto to post pou ekanes na min ennoeis oti o Seirinakhs einai sobaros dhmosiografos,etsi?

lol apo olo to post afto mono vrikes stravo?

[marianna2525]

Ο Σειρινάκης έχει κάνει διάφορα ευτράπελα στο παρελθόν, όπως να αντιγράφει άρθρα τρίτων.

Κάτι μου θυμίζει, μα κάτι μου θυμίζει...
:evil:

[Joey_Allen]

Tha xekinhsw ligo diaforetika ayth th fora.Buddy Lackey epidh se vlepw oti ksynese epeidh milaw olo gia ton Seirhnakh 8a sou pw akoma oti san sydaktes kai gnwseis ektimw ton Fragko gia tis gnwseis tou sto progressive kai oti htan apo tous prwtous pou egrapse sthn Ellada gia Symphony-X ektimw ton Starakh giati fainetai oti exei gnwseis toso apo th sthlh pou eixe sto invader oso kai apo to fanzine to Temples of Eternity(oses fores exei pesei sta xeria mou mesw gnwstwn-zougla thx) ektimw ton Hlia Papadopoulo ton Koufakh kai apo hammeristes ton Zaxaropoulo Vasilh mono omws gia tis gnwseis tou sto prog kai oxi gia ayta pou leei gia Lynch Mob h otan leei oti o Norum den exei fanatikous opadous sthn Ellada (la8os kyrie egw eimai enas apo aytous).Epishs o Kisantzekian xerei apo mousikh alla mou th spaei to styl “egw xekinhsa na akouw fusion sta 13 mou h egw eimai o monos pou exw to ay8entiko vinylio kai cd”.Epishs fovero site pou anakalypsa tyxaia teleytaia to www.grande-rock.com (http://www.grande-rock.com) to mono site pou exei valei stous emetikous Electric Wizard 3 Nisafi pia me tous malakes. Wraia mexri edw Buddy?Pame twra sto zoumi.
Epitelous!Eida kai enan an8rwpo ton Rockavlon o opios egrapse kai to epi8eto tou kai 8elei arxidia gia na to kaneis ayto na eirwnevetai me tropo fovero to entypo to opio einai sxedon apokleistika apey8yno gia thn katantia tou metal sthn Ellada.Epeidh pali polloi 8a me eirwneytoun 8a yio8ethsw thn idea tou 32xronou provatou pou legetai psychotron kai otan 8a grafw se kapio topic 8a synomilw mono me ram..man,trampakoula,rockavlon kai kana 2 allous pou fainetai oti kseroun apo mousikh.Mormengil asxete malakako me apokaleses gero mpismpikh epeidh profanws den eimai provato etsi wste na apo8ewnw ton Garm.Sou xanaapadw loipon oti kalo gia sena 8a einai na rwthseis kapion na sou pei ti esti aor na sou pei ti esti amerikaniko hard rock(poser opws sou to ema8an oi eksygxronistes tou hammer) kai meta ela na mou milhseis.Mitsmann eisai anandros kai oi saxles pou les oxi apla den se kanoun na gelas alla pali kala pou h o8onh mou glytwse na mhn th spasw apo tis malakies.Virus provato pou akous tous kleftarades tou stoner rock pou exoune kataklepsei tous Sabbath me apokaleses profitako tou rock on.epeidh loipon akouw metal tosa xronia oso einai profanws h hlikia sou akou loipon ti exei na sou pei enas gero mpismpikhs gia to agaphmeno sou periodiko:
Xekinhsa na akouw metal to 1988.Apo thn arxh goustara ola ta idiwmata eite legotan klasiko heavy eite amerikaniko hard rock kai apo thrash kapia group.To hammer to prwtoagorasa h mallon mou to prwtoferane to 89 giati edw sthn Mytilhnh htan akator8wto gia mas na to diavasoume.Tis perissoteres fores mou to fernane filoi apo thn a8hna.Polles fores mou fernane 4-5 mazi kai egw diavaza gia na ma8w.
Paradexomai oti to 70 tois ekato aytwn pou xerw shmera ta ema8a apo kei.Mexri to 1996 pou vghke to invader agoraza h mou fernane to hammer anelipws.8a me rwthseis fysika stonera mou ti allaxe kai stamathsa. Prwton efyga sto ekswteriko gia spoudes kai h douleia mou edw kai kapia xronia exei na kanei me synexh taksidia sto ekswteriko.Akoma to Invader mporei kai ayto na egrafe arketes malakies alla pote kapios sydakths den eirwneythke kapio idiwma h kapio group sthn kritikh tou.Epishs vare8hka na vlepw to hammer na mou milaei synexeia gia iced earth nevermore,maiden metallica kai otan to 97 oi priest px vgalane album meta apo 7 xronia na exoune mia selidoula kai ayto einai olo.vare8hka kai sixa8hka to hammer thn periodo pou to grunge htan sta epanw tou na vlepw to hammer na prospa8ei na mou plasarei ola ayta ta group san zeppeliniko rock!!!!!!!!!! Th stigmh pou oi idioi oi mousikoi px Cornell dhlwnan perhfanoi grungades giati profanws htan h moda tote asxeta an meta ta gyrisan otan to grunge esvhse.Syberasma prwton:Opou gamos kai giorth kai h vasilw e sorry to hammer prwto.Opou fysaei o anemos paw. Dystyxws yparxoune ayth th stigmh an8rwpoi sto hammer oi opioi misoun to klasiko metal kai ayto fainetai apo tis kritikes tous stis opies eirwnevodai group opws oi Cage oi Onward paliotera oi Attacker me prosfato krousma th diskara twn Distant Thunder opu enas phge kai tou vale 4!Vare8hka na vlepw sta dhmopsifhsmata tous atoma san ton Mike Patton,ton Layne Staley tous Nisvarna kai ena swro allous malakes.Vare8hka apo ta mesa ths dekaetias tou 90 kai meta na prow8oudai oi Nevermore ws h nea megalh elpida tou metal me tis Korn epirroes.Sto invader opws twra sto rock on pote kapios den xekinhse mia kritikh grafodas px”8ymaste kapia epoxh pou o mike varney ypegrafe kapious ki8aristes” h “oi kingdome come vgalane kapote 2 diskares twra einai gia ton poutso”.Oloi ekei pera apo ta grafomena tous sevodai ti akouei o allos kai den eirwnevodai.Nai kai ekei pera evlepes kai vlepeis kati 9aria se Cradle of Filth alla vlepeis kai sthlh melwdikou rock kai sxhmata opws oi Vixen ktl.Anoigeis to hammer kai sou leei pioi einai oi Vixen!!!(h mallon poies).Pies einai?re malaka aytes poulhsan kai merika ekatommyria etsi gia plaka oi Opeth kai oi Porcupine tree pioi einai dhladh?Oi Cataract pou mou prow8eis esy pioi einai?Oi Shadows Fall pioi einai?Xwris na kseroune oti yparxoune opadoi pou goustaroune akoma kapia sxhmata aytoi ka8odai kai ta eirwnevodai prosvalontas kai tous idious tous opadous.To Dare giati na parei 6.5?To teleytaio twn Kingdom Come(lenny wolf 8ee) giati na parei 5 h poso phre?Epeidh den anhkoun sth Sound and Vision pou gemizei to hammer me 10-15 selides me ka8e nea kykloforia ths?H mhpws osoi pairnete promos den xerete oti o xakos doulevei ekei?mou ta xei pei filaraki to opoio eixe xronia oloklhra fanzine kai to ekleise ahdiasmenos apo th stenomyalia twn ellhnwn na agorazoun hammer mono kai mono epeidh pleon to exoune synh8isei!nai ekei ftasame na agorazei o allos to hammer mono kai mono gia na vlepei ti kyklofories exoune vgei.ekei to katanthsan kapioi to hammer.Mhpws o giorgos zaxaropoulos den exei thn cosmic storm pou ekproswpei ena swro akraies etaireies sthn ellada?o palantzas den exei thn sleaszy rider?o agoros den exei thn blast beat mailorder?me ayta 8elw na pw oti einai logiko kapia group pou anhkoun stis etaireies aytes na pairnoun ypshlous va8mous logw tou oti oi kyrioi th douleia tous kanoune kai prepei na prow8hsoun kai kana neo onoma.to an ayto to onoma aksizei h oxi ligo tous endiaferei.To 8ema einai:8es na prow8hseis kapia group?prow8hse ta, alla mhn 8aveis ta alla re malaka.Den borei oi kyklofories px ths Frontiers h ths Lion Music h ths Majestic Rock na pairnoune to poly 7 giati esy 8es na mou prow8hseis Knut!!na sai adikeimenikos.To oti kapia ksexasmena gothic group pairnoune 2 h 3 apo tous en logw kyrious emena de mou leei tipota.
Mhpws to metal hammer den einai ekeino pou ey8ynetai gia thn anadeiksh kapiwn metriotatwn sxhmatwn mesa se mia nyxta edw sthn ellada me tis kritikes tou me kati diskous tou mhna pou einai edelws gia gelia?An 8elete paradeigmata endeiktika anaferodai oi Pain of Salvation oi Spiritual Ufo e sorry Beggars h8ela na pw oi Tool oi Nevermore oi Orange Goblin kai ena swro alloi pou8enades.H mhpws to hammer den exei katastrepsei karieres sxhmatwn mesa se 1 nykta? Deite ti egrafe o Palantzas gia tous Raging Storm to 2001 otan epaixan support stous Primal Fear kai ti egrafe 7 mhnes meta otan epaixan support stous Anvil.Metriotatous tous anevaze a8lious tous katevaze enw otan anoigan gia tous Fear elege ti kalopaigmeno metal paizoune. H mhpws den exei 8apsei ena swro groupares me tis kritikes tou?Px Lions Share opou o padognwsths Xakos tous evale 6 kai fysika den tous agorase kaneis..Mou prow8ei san diskara to Black Utopia tou Sherinian th stigmh pou opios exei akousei Planet X kanei kaka etsi apla.Ayto deixnei oti ekei mesa kapioi einai apolytws asxetoi kai exoune mpei apla gia na pairnoune ta promos kai de variesai 8a kanoume kai kyrhgma stous opadous na mhn katevazoun mp3 na agorazoun tis kyklofories na mhn kleisoun oi etaireies edw kai na maste oloi ikanopoihmenoi.Gia na ginw kai pio sygkekrimenos akolou8oun ta parakatw paradeigmata:
1.Cynic-Focus to 1993 6.5 apo ton Andrea Venerh.Ksafnika 8ymh8hkame oti oi Cynic einai groupara.
2.Coroner adikoxamenh mpada.Otan vgazane tis diskares to 1989 oi Coroner esy hammer mas milouses gia Reign in Blood.Twra pou dielysan 8ymh8hkes oti einai groupara?H ypokrisia ths ypokrisias kai na kathgorei kai tous opadous ws stenomyalous apo panw!
3.Exeis epirroes apo Malmsteen h apo neoklasiko metal?Den pa na xereis 100 kila mousikh….to poly 3-4 8a parei o diskos sou.Paizeis 80s metal?Den pa na einai kalopaigmeno aytomatws vgainei h krish oti de se xerei h mana sou kai prepei na pareis to poly 4 kai apo panw eisai kai megas adigrafeas Maiden.Den mas noiazei an paizei to group kala kai se porwnei to mono pou mas noiazei einai oti afou paizei klasiko metal 80s prepei na petaxtei sthn pyra.
4.O ka8e malakas deathmetallas pou adigrafei tous Cannibal Corpse kai tous Morbid Angel pairnei anw tou 7.O ka8e malakas atmosfairikos kai kala pou 8elei na ginei anathema h my dying bride sth 8esh twn prohgoumenvn xalifhdwn pairnei kai aytos ypshlous va8mous.Einai dynaton na sou prow8ei Atrocity kai Leaves Eyes!!!!!!!!8a mas pesoun osa mallia mas apomeinan.Erxomai egw twra kai rwtaw:”Agoro oi Knut oi Heaven Shall Burn kai opioi alloi malakes adigrafoun tous Bolt Thrower tous Agnostic Front h den xerw egw pion allon otan vgazoun neo disko giati tous vazeis 7”?”Na, ksereis file mou einai kalopaigmeno kai exei kati na pei”.E tote re malaka giati den vazeis kai sta klasika metal sxhmata panw apo 7?Na, ksereis oi Homo Iratus paizoune me monopetalo den einai akrivws to idio me tous ypoloipous hardcourades.Ase mas re file.Ante na ta poulhsete allou ayta re.
5.Ron Jarzombek 8eos.Watchtower groupara.Sieges Even epishs. Malista.Aytoi omws me prwton kai kalytero ton kyrio Jarzombek den adegrapsan ta osa epaize o 8eos Allan Holdsworth sth dekaetia tou 70 eite me ton Tony Wiiliams eite me tous UK eite san solo sth dekaetia tou 80 me ta apisteyta “Road Games” “Metal Fatigue” kai “Atavachron”?Ekei vevaia den mas symferei na milhsoume gia adigrafh ama htan omws kanena klasiko 80s sxhma e?To 83 pou ta paize ayta o Allan o kyrios Jarzommbek eixe tous S.A Slayer(swsta ta lew?) kai den ton hksere h mana tou.Stis 30/10/2003 pou hr8e o 8eos Allan sthn ellada kai fysika to hammer den to anefere kan giati fainetai den 8a tou dwsan prosklhsh na mpei tzaba posoi apo esas htane sto wdeio tou Fakana na apolaysoyn ton pragmatiko 8eo ths hlektrikhs ki8aras?Fadazomai kaneis.
6.Diskoi tou mhna.To megalo gelio.Ti na prwto8ymh8ei kaneis apo thn trisendoksh ayth sthlh tou hammer.Na 8ymh8oume to 9 sto Elements twn Stratovarius opou akoma kai o pio porwmenos me to hammer anarwth8hke ti ginetai epitelous edw?Na 8ymh8oume diskous tou mhna twn Iced Earth me klasika pote katw tou 9?Na 8ymh8oune Nightwish kai Thorns!!!!!Na 8ymh8oume tous Down h to epiekws metrio Dying for the World?Na 8ymh8oume to prosfato Nevermore kai posa akoma paradeigmata?Na 8ymh8oume oti anti gia fwtografia tou Akerfeldt evaze fotografia tou Peter tou ki8arista?Na 8ymh8oue thn ataka tou kyriou Zaxaropoulou oti oi Soilwork ftiaxnoun pleon diko tous hxo?Poses fores sta8hkes brosta ston ka8refth gia na to pistepseis kai o idios?
7.Synavlies.Kainourio frouto kai ayto pali.Sthrizoume ena group kai otan to support tous pataei h otan ena allo group pou koroidevoume ws xeperasmeno kanei kataplhktikh emfanish emeis pali 8a to 8apsoume giati den 8eloume na dextoume oti to group ayto akoma den exei faei ta pswmia tou.Paradeigmata:Otan oi Pain of Salvation gamh8hkan apo tous Rage kai to hammer egrafe oti oi Rage einai gia to mouseio!!!!8ymamai oti filos mou pou htan sto live me phre thlefwno sto ekswteriko opou hmouna kai mou leei otan gyrisw na prospa8hsw na vrw to hammer na dw ti grafei gia tous Rage.Fysika kratousa thn koilia mou apo ta gelia.Etyxe na tous dw sto ekswteriko tous Rage kai ayth h syn8esh einai h kalyterh pou xane pote.Allo paradeigma:Osoi gnwstoi mou kanane to la8os kai anevhkan A8hna ton Iounio tou 2003 gia Quensryche vlasthmousan thn wra kai th stigmh.Den vrhka enan na mou pei mia kalh kouventa gia to live.Ti tyxeros pou hmouna pou phga Whitesnake 2 vradies.Omws pws na dextei to hammer oti oi papoudes gamhsane tous pseftoeksygxronistes?Etsi vlepeis akoma kai sydaktes pou kseroune opws o kisantzekian na kseftilizodai grafodas oti o Coverdale ta fage ta pswmia tou.Osoi htane omws stis synavlies proskynhsan etsi apla.H na 8ymh8oume oti o Xakos egrafe oti oi Immolation sto Wacken tou 2000 htane xalia thn stigmh pou oi Immolation eixane akyrw8ei?Eixa paei me Germanous filous mou tote sto Wacken kai kserw.
8.Kwstas Xronopoulos.Den exw tipota me ton en logw kyrio den ton kserw kai oute 8elw na ton ma8w.Omws to ka8e eidous khrygma me enoxlei.Katarxhn osoi diavazete hammer apo palia 8a 8ymaste oti o kyrios aytos mia zwh gia Smashing Pumpkins kai gia Pearl Jam ekane kritikes kai ksafnika vriskete sth 8esh tou diey8ynth kai to paizei hrwas tou metal?Mas leei loipon oti prepei h nea genia na ftiaxei tous dikous ths hrwes opws h genia tou 80s.Malista.Mono pou to 80s koutoponhre vgainane diskoi san to Number of the Beast h to Ample Destruction me 8-10 h kai parapanw kommatia pou ola htan kommatares.Shmera ti vgainei?To Getynsbourg?H to Enemies of Reality?H mhpws oi Damageplan kai oi Superjoint Ritual?Otidhpote kalo vgainei pairnei katw tou 5 sto periodiko sas kyrie Xronopoule opote na xaireste ta indalmata pou ftiaxnete alla den 8a paroume.An epishs 8ewreis ton eayto sou magka me to na grapseis kati pou to eidane 3000 kosmos me ta matia tou kai to ma8e olos o kosmos mesw tou net e tote prepei na sai poly vourlo.Milaw fysika gia to Athens Open Air.An eisai magkas Xronopoule na peis stous sydaktes sou na einai antikeimenikoi me ola ta group alla fainetai oti meta den 8a xei promos apo th Sound and Vision e?An eisai magkas na vazeis sto Load kai sto Reload ton va8mo pou tous aksizei:to poly 2 sta 10 kai oxi na ftanei o kompos sto xteni me to Shit Anger.An eisai magkas epishs na peis oxi mono oti otan to hammer mpainei ws megas xorhgos se kapia synavlia den grafei apla mia kritkh alla kai poses prosklhseis pairnei se anti8esh me olous emas tous allous tous malakes pou skame 35 eyrw.Eytyxws logw twn enasxolhsewn me to ekswteriko exw dei ta perissotera live ekei se kalh timh kai me an8rwpines syn8hkes kai edw exw paei se apeiroelaxista.me tis aparadektes syn8hkes kai tis times anw twn 30 eyrw.
8a borousa na grapsw ena swro pragmata akoma gia to hammer alla logw tou oti o xronos mou einai polytimos gia na asxoloumai me pseftokseroles stamataw edw.Buddy Lackey den 8a sou kanw th xarh oute se sena oute se kanenan allo na xanaadikhsw edw mesa gia ena 8ema pou oloi ligo poly to kseroun apla kanoune ta strava matia.Apla opws eipe kai o Warlord meta apo 6 mhnes ksexnane kai oi idioi ti va8mous exoune valei sta promakia tous kai 8avoune ayta pou apo8ewnan kai mas peirakse o Countraven pou sthn telikh grafei se e-zine kai ton diavazoun mono osoi exoune prosvash sto net?Egw proswpika den exw gnwrisei pote kanenan apo konta apo tous sydaktes pou anefera panw-panw an kai 8a to h8ela poly giati oi kritikes tous plhn elaxistwn eksairesewn me vriskoun apolytws symfwno kai oso gia tous ypoloipous eidika tous hammeristes oxi apla den 8elw na tous synadhsw pote mou alla lypamai gia thn katantia tous.Allwste A8hna eimai synh8ws gyrnwdas apo to ekswteriko kai to teleytaio pragma pou 8a h8ela 8a htan na paw sta Eksarxeia kai na vlepw ta moutra tou Xakou.Phgainoun gnwstoi kai filoi ton vlepoune kai gelane kai aytoi gia mena.Epishs 8a borousa kai gw na ftiaxw ena panagnwsto fanzine kai na pairnw promakia kai ti me noiazei an 8a me diavaze kaneis afou 8a eperna ta promakia.Den to ekana omws pote giati eimai romantikos dystyxws oson afora ton tomea twn agorwn kai ektos elaxistwn diskwn pou den borw na vrw kai tous exw adigrafes ola ta alla einai ay8entika.Vlepeis Mormengil gia na deis th diafora mas dhladh egw den pairnw kasetes apo Stasinopoulous gia na to paizw kserolas se pitsirikia opws esy.Oti agorasa to agorasa me 8ysies kai erxesai esy na antiparate8eis? A kai ViirusXI den se eida na apokaleis ton Ramschackle Man h ton Rockavlon profitakous tou rock on.Ti ginetai kwlwneis h mhpws gnwrizeste apo konta kai ama se petyxoun se kamia gwnia 8a se kanoune na niwseis gyunaika ?An kai hdh 8a prepe na niw8eis kapws etsi me Alabama Thunderotinanai.
Pain of salvation wraio epipedo na vrizeis kapion pou leei alh8eies opws o Rockavlon.Fysika den 8a borousa na pw to idio gia to hammeriko anempneysto klapsomouniko nick sou.

Enas profitakos tou rock on tou metal invader tou eaytou tou tou poser tou fusion tou aorheaven.com tou heavy harmonies kai tou klasikou heavy metal ypermaxos ths lak


PS:Witchkiller esy an 8ymamai kala kati eleges gia kapious kratos kai kseftilisthkes opote mhn koroideveis ton Seirhnakh gia to an e8apse tous Orange Goblin.Kai sto katw katw pioi einai oi Orange Goblin den katalava?Aytos exei ta arxidia na prow8ei Richie Kotzen kai Last Autumn’s Dream mesw tou periodikou o Xakos exei ta arxidia na prow8hsei kati diaforetiko ektos apo Leaves Eyes kai Atrocity?
PS1:Anaferomai se osa paidia den eirwnevodai osoi exoune apomeinei :Paidia opws eip ekai o Rockavlon mhn agorazete oti sas taizoune kapioi.Psaxteite giati kserw oti apo tis etaireies pou proanefera opws kai kapies alles pou ksexasa ta cds tous den einai eykolo na vre8oune.Prospa8eiste na ta vreite estw se mp3 katevaste ta apo to internet oti den mporeite na vreite alla mhn trwte th fola oti aor kai poser=flwria.Dystyxws ftasame na vriskeis akoma kai sta psilikatzidika Ancient px kai gia na vreis Johansson Brothers prepei na kaneis tama.Mhn trwte th fola kai 8a deite oti kai se kinhmata pou kapioi ta 8ewroun nekra gia to diko tous kai mono symferon yparxoune groupares.
PS2:Gia na mhn anarwtiesai Virus poswn etwn eimai 8a sou pw oti eimai sta 32 san ton provato ton psychotron.Eytyxws pou emeina analloiwtos kai den epesa sto vo8ro mazi me Lacuna Coil.Kapote doulevame tous Coil twra exoume kai tous Lacuna Coil….

[freak brother]

opoios to diavasei.. bonus 10.000 betmits points kai 1000 posts...

joey allen
ELA RE PATRIDA :D

[Buddy Lackey]

An les merika swsta, xanontai apo alles trelles malakies sou.

ektimw ton Fragko gia tis gnwseis tou sto progressive kai oti htan apo tous prwtous pou egrapse sthn Ellada gia Symphony-X
Kai egw ektimw ton Fragko kai ton theorw poly sovaro, sigoura anafores se Symphony X ginan kai prin apo ayton. Kai an egrapse prwtos aytos gia S. x KAI TI EGINE DLD, TI TON KANEI? H ousia einai oti kathe periodiko/entypo exei merikous pou einai ok kai merikous pou einai gtp.

Paradexomai oti to 70 tois ekato aytwn pou xerw shmera ta ema8a apo kei
Diladi an den yphrxe to hammer ti tha akouges? Ta provata pou apotheonoun ton Garm mono, ante kai kamia kragmenh aor soufrazeta. Ara ti to vrizeis wsan trellos? Paradeksou ayto pou ligoi paradexontai oti without hammer (kai metal invader fysika, apla hammer epeidi einai paliotero), oi perissoteroi le poul otan den yphrxe internet.
Nai to invader den eironeyotan (den eironeytike pote sigoura e?) kapoio idiwma, alla htan ena meso gia na vgazoun diaforoi trella kai poikila komplex (Karagiannhs gia thriskeia px , nai o Xrhstos tou eftaige mallon pou den eixe gkomena kai akouge mizerogoth skata klp kai se kathe sxedon kritikh den exane eykairia na petaksei kai tin "eypreph xristopanagia" ) kai KYRIWS komplex pou to hammer poulage perissotero. Apla diavase editorials, 'h ton thriliko psyxro polemo metaksi flwrakh kai daoloth.
Epishs oi Soundgarden einai kyriws HARD ROCK (nai ZEPPELINIKO , opws kai SABBATHIKO) se shmeia, thes de thes. Kai me poly pio alaniariko/sklhro/true rock feeling apo aories kai pozeries. Kai o Cornell exei fwnara kai SE GAMAEI.

Vare8hka apo ta mesa ths dekaetias tou 90 kai meta na prow8oudai oi Nevermore ws h nea megalh elpida tou metal me tis Korn epirroes
...
Oi Nevermore korn epirroes . Mh sou pw kai prodigy. A KAI to Metal Invader eixe apisteyta apotheotikes kritikes se OLA ta Nevermore (o Stasinopoulos pou toso ektimas px).
An theoreis tous Nevermore kai tous Spiritual Beggars "metria groupakia", kai akous poser kai aor, eisai aksios ths moiras sou. Ayto pou kai kala psaxneis sta SKATA pou akous, oi Beggars to exoun eis ston kyvo. Alla eisai koufos. Saresoun kai oi Planet X? Kala na patheis.
Symfwnw oti sto hammer yparxei ypervolikh anoxh oson afora ta akraia groups,kai psilo-thapsimo twn trad. metal onomatwn. Eidika gia Onward synypografw osa les. O sygkekrimenos syntakths grafei genika MALAKIES (nai o Sakelariou)

Watchtower groupara.Sieges Even epishs. Malista.Aytoi omws me prwton kai kalytero ton kyrio Jarzombek den adegrapsan ta osa epaize o 8eos Allan Holdsworth sth dekaetia tou 70 eite me ton Tony Wiiliams eite me tous UK eite san solo sth dekaetia tou 80 me ta apisteyta “Road Games” “Metal Fatigue” kai “Atavachron”?
Eisai poly mikros gia na krineis ETSI tous Watchtower kai tous Sieges Even. Kai to pithanotero einai pws tous krineis xwris na exeis akousei kan.

Witchkiller mhn koroideveis ton Seirhnakh gia to an e8apse tous Orange Goblin.Kai sto katw katw pioi einai oi Orange Goblin den katalava?
Kala kanei kai ton koroidevei. Oi Orange Goblin gamane. Gia to poioi einai, akou kana disko tous MPAS KAI AKOUSEIS SOVARH HEAVY ROCK METAL MOUSIKH, FLWRE AORA.
sthn ousia les malakies, kai apla ekfrazeis thn enoxlhsh sou pou thavetai oti SOU ARESEI, kai apotheonontai pragmata pou sou DEN sou ARESOUN. Na sou pw kiolas na stravotheis na deis poses neoklassikes pipes exoun apotheothei apo ton Koskorh sto hammer.
Ok ti sou apantaw, skotonw wra sth douleia.. Etsi kai alliws theoreis to APSOG malakia , kai akous AOR. Euge

[MoRmEnGiL]

Mormengil asxete malakako me apokaleses gero mpismpikh epeidh profanws den eimai provato etsi wste na apo8ewnw ton Garm.Sou xanaapadw loipon oti kalo gia sena 8a einai na rwthseis kapion na sou pei ti esti aor na sou pei ti esti amerikaniko hard rock(poser opws sou to ema8an oi eksygxronistes tou hammer) kai meta ela na mou milhseis

blaka,hli8ie,stoke,3ekoutiasmene,pontiac,gerompismpiki,mentally challenged atomo..

to aor,h alliws poser,h alliws prasino koufeto h opws dialo 8elei na to leei o ka8enas gamw th mpoutana mou to 3erw arketa kala,einai mia ap ths agaphmenes mou mousikhs kai exw ektetamenh mp3iografia ston tomea..
kai persy pou ka8e deutera ekane programa sto texas o seirinakhs (ton opoio 3erw proswpika kai einai gamw ta paidia) kai exwne aories hmouna ka8e mera ekei,asxeta an spoudazw patra h oxi..
prin peis random malakies loipon na ka8ese na skeutese mhpws oi gnwseis sou gia kapoio atomo den einai eparkeis gia na bgazeis symperasmata zwntobolo?
kai genika dld na skeutese prin milhseis.kai den einai ntroph na paradexese oti den exeis arketes gnwseis gia kati kai na to boulwneis anti na petas malakies.
euxaristw.
psofa twra :D

[rockavlon]

pwpwpwpwpw.. stadar. exeis emperistatwmenh gnwsh, katoxe 1000mp3 pou den exeis akousei, dioti akous GAAARRMR, GRAAMM, kai ntoitse gkramofon. i gkrafomooon :P MORMENGIL mh mas bgeis ki aoras, twra giati tha kopsw to spourgitopoutsaki mou kai tha to kanw soublaki...

Ehm, tou JA to post den to diabazw. it's too fucking long. eimai krywmenos, exw minei mesa, se ligo isws kai na rthei kai mia filh na doume kamia tainioula...alla kai pali too long ... ehm. ntaks to hammer einai kai poulhmeno kai gemato kompleksares. lete to aor ksepleniko, alla kati klapsomounes tis apothewnete. kati ANATHMA pou edw kai 5 diskous paizoun radio-floyd me pio koulamara tous exoume balei sto apyroblhto. mono sthn ellada e ? kai sthn polwnia ktl...agglies germanies - alles sobares agores asto kalytera. ki an pote kanw to metal bussiness - xlwmo alla pote den ksereis. A) tha to pw. B) tha frontisw na dinw value for money c) tha to kanw gia thn texnh. epeidh m aresei kapoios. oxi epeidh foraei 2 diaforetika papoutsia, kokkinhg mhth kai make-up kai oxi epeidh einai ki alloi 1500 copiadoroi pou theloun ki auth ena kommati apo thn pitta.

PANTWS na euxaristhsw ton filtato JA - gia ta kala logia. Thank you true brother of FLORIK MUSIC - kata ton AL mpanti - lucky. ama eisai giou kei pes na kanoume epidromh meta tou kyriou ramshackle se kana tykketo ktl ktl ktl ... dare ktl.... BTW mounares, exw synenteuksh me WHARTON STO PIPELINE. ekei na deite pws apanta o semnos kallitexnhs, kai poso sa malakistiri opados kanw. an kai mallon tha ta kanw edit.... dioti paizei na ekdothei kiola auth. AUTA ADERFIA MOU ALHTES POULIA. kai stis allhtises to spourgitopoutsaki, to diko mou to poulaki dhladhs, stelenw ena filaki sto diko sas to poulaki/gataki/moonaki (delete as applicable) an plhreite tous orous tou YSTEROGAMMOU 5 sto gramma sto hamster (alhtheia bghke/ekdothike ?? tha parw promo ? na to poulhse ebay thelw e ?!) kai eiste ki eleuthero - thyli-pouli bebaiws bebaiws. we don't steal other ppls birds unless they 're very good - records kai twra epeidh molis mou pe i gomena oti tha rthei se 45 lepta.... e paw na diabasw to post tou JA...

[MoRmEnGiL]

pwpwpwpwpw.. stadar. exeis emperistatwmenh gnwsh, katoxe 1000mp3 pou den exeis akousei, dioti akous GAAARRMR, GRAAMM, kai ntoitse gkramofon. i gkrafomooon :P MORMENGIL mh mas bgeis ki aoras, twra giati tha kopsw to spourgitopoutsaki mou kai tha to kanw soublaki...


:moutza:
de sxoliazw gia ta mp3,giati to les apla k mono gia an mou thn peis.
alla oxi den eimai aoras.oute blackas.(βλάκας isws :P)oute progressivas,oute noisas,oute tpt ap auta.nta3?apla akouw th mousikh pou goustarw kai gelaw me auta pou lete oloi oi xazometaloi :P

[VirusXI]

hahah oso paei mou ton 8ymizei olo kai pio poly marianna2525 k ypoloipoi agaphtoi grmetallers ;) ;)

Agaphte Joey_Allen,
Katarxhn 8a anafer8w sta osa les gia mena. Agaphmeno mou periodiko loipon. Den to pairnw kan ka8e mhna, opote katsei. Se polla pou anafereis symfwnw malista. Alla sta paparia mou kai to xamer kai opoiodhpote allo periodiko. Den ftanei pou exoume osous pisteyoun sthn ierothta tou Heavy Metal kai prepei na to yperaspizontai aptous kakous fols... twra exoume kai allous pou pisteyoun sta Metalika Periodika. Eleos. De sou 8iksame to Rock On ;) oute ton Seirhnakh ;) ;) ;)
Peri AORadwn? giauto pou anafereis peri Ramschackle Man kai Rockavlon... ntaks kai oi 2 grafoun giauta pou goustaroun alla den aneferoun gia Rock On san esenane. ;) ;) O Ramschackle Man eidika den exw proseksei na exei attitude "h mousikh mou einai kalyterh apth dikia sas niania nianiania" - den enoxlei koinws - k ayto einai kati pou ton timaei, o Rockavlon mas prhzei pou k pou ta paparia alla ein kalo paidi kai katalavainei =)
Genika den 8a anafer8w sto mousika sou gousto, ta vriskw emetiko alla thats not the point. O kosmos de peristrefetai gyrw apayto sou to gousto, opws oute apto diko mou. Sou pa egw na akouseis Stoner/Doom/whatever? Xesthka an 8a akouseis, xesou kai sy. Oso gia to poso asxolountai ta periodika me to Amerikaniko Hard Rock 'h Pozer 'h opws alliws mporei na xarakthris8ei, h moda exei perasei. K de to lew me th kakh ennoia aparaithta, apla gia osous den asxolountai fanatika me to eidos isws fainontai ontws skata oi kyklofories aytes kai tis 8avoun. Esy etsi kialliws 8a ta agoraseis kai 8a goustareis, ti se noiazei? To oti vazoun kalous va8mous se pragmata pou den goustareis ESY de paei na pei tpt.
Oso gia mena pali pou poly-anaferesai, den eimai kana dekaeksaxrono, poula allou tis 'gnwseis' sou megale, 5-6 xronia asxoleisai parapanw apo mena alla me tetoio kollhma pou xeis, de mou leei tpt.
Ayta, sou apanthsa arketa sovara nomizw.
Kata ta alla... Opws vlepw kratas arxeio tou ti legetai edw mesa, mpravo! Apousiazeis alla adiavastos de meneis! Afou akoume oloi "malakies pou mas pasarei to hammer" giati asxoleisai? Eisai oligon pathetic?!?

PS: Morm eisai ligo xazouliiis ;) ;) ;)
PS2: np BigElf. Xynoun hair disko8hkes.

[rockavlon]

merika akoma - oi pos kai oi nevermore einai kala group. kai paixtika kaloi kai arketa synaisthima autoi NAI aksizoun synhthws kai disko tou mhna. na to dextw. ALLA ONTWS TWRA oi diskoi tou mhna pou ANEFFERE O JA - eeinai patates, ontws opws kai to VELoudino AGGOURI !!!

kai nai - yparxei kompleksismos. oti einai CLASSIC-rock-metal-aor, pou den exoume tis etairies 4-6. stadar.

oi electric wizzard px. ntaks grouvata, arxidata paizoun kai to gkomenaki pou eida kapou einia miam alla NTAKS - fwnhtika einai MEGALO anekdoto.
san na kanei gargares me TARZANELIA einai.... (c).= kourades kollhmenes se trixes. den to gyrizoun se electric coprofagus ?
Bottom line. OI AOR ETAIRIES yparxoun kai mas taizoun me POIOTIKH mousikh. an den sas aresei parte to manthli kai klafte. otan t asteria mpoun sth seira, ki o ethir geinei o covergay kai egw tha mai to deksi tou arxidi kai asteras on my own * hint samples cumming atxhya soon* tote ola ta gomenakia tha erxontai gia backstage se mas.

kai gia na kleisw to epiko atakiko apo synaulia Panathema - sta xania. gia udo phga E?! e de tha mamahthw me ton tragoudisth. einai poly aspros :P twra pou bgale th mplouza. MPRABO sou kopela mou.
krathse to peos sfixta - ki odhghse to mesa bathia,
ti papari exeis kotsoooom, ki as myrizeis skordalia. YO

[VirusXI]

sou pe ena kalo logo kai phres fora pali?

[eyeamflesch]

pwpwpwpwpw.. stadar. exeis emperistatwmenh gnwsh, katoxe 1000mp3 pou den exeis akousei, dioti akous GAAARRMR, GRAAMM, kai ntoitse gkramofon. i gkrafomooon :P MORMENGIL mh mas bgeis ki aoras, twra giati tha kopsw to spourgitopoutsaki mou kai tha to kanw soublaki...

Ehm, tou JA to post den to diabazw. it's too fucking long. eimai krywmenos, exw minei mesa, se ligo isws kai na rthei kai mia filh na doume kamia tainioula...alla kai pali too long ... ehm. ntaks to hammer einai kai poulhmeno kai gemato kompleksares. lete to aor ksepleniko, alla kati klapsomounes tis apothewnete. kati ANATHMA pou edw kai 5 diskous paizoun radio-floyd me pio koulamara tous exoume balei sto apyroblhto. mono sthn ellada e ? kai sthn polwnia ktl...agglies germanies - alles sobares agores asto kalytera. ki an pote kanw to metal bussiness - xlwmo alla pote den ksereis. A) tha to pw. B) tha frontisw na dinw value for money c) tha to kanw gia thn texnh. epeidh m aresei kapoios. oxi epeidh foraei 2 diaforetika papoutsia, kokkinhg mhth kai make-up kai oxi epeidh einai ki alloi 1500 copiadoroi pou theloun ki auth ena kommati apo thn pitta.

PANTWS na euxaristhsw ton filtato JA - gia ta kala logia. Thank you true brother of FLORIK MUSIC - kata ton AL mpanti - lucky. ama eisai giou kei pes na kanoume epidromh meta tou kyriou ramshackle se kana tykketo ktl ktl ktl ... dare ktl.... BTW mounares, exw synenteuksh me WHARTON STO PIPELINE. ekei na deite pws apanta o semnos kallitexnhs, kai poso sa malakistiri opados kanw. an kai mallon tha ta kanw edit.... dioti paizei na ekdothei kiola auth. AUTA ADERFIA MOU ALHTES POULIA. kai stis allhtises to spourgitopoutsaki, to diko mou to poulaki dhladhs, stelenw ena filaki sto diko sas to poulaki/gataki/moonaki (delete as applicable) an plhreite tous orous tou YSTEROGAMMOU 5 sto gramma sto hamster (alhtheia bghke/ekdothike ?? tha parw promo ? na to poulhse ebay thelw e ?!) kai eiste ki eleuthero - thyli-pouli bebaiws bebaiws. we don't steal other ppls birds unless they 're very good - records kai twra epeidh molis mou pe i gomena oti tha rthei se 45 lepta.... e paw na diabasw to post tou JA...

PAIDIA, DEN TO DIABASA O POST AfTO ALLA PEITE ME AMA LEEI SE KANA SIMEIO GIA TIN PERITOMI TOY.

[MoRmEnGiL]

PS: Morm eisai ligo xazouliiis ;) ;) ;)


k esy den pas pisw.. ;) ;) :P

[rockavlon]

kati leo sthn 3h grammh - yperballwntas. that's about it.

[VirusXI]

eisai xazouliiiiis leme ;) ;) ;)


prin peis random malakies loipon na ka8ese na skeutese mhpws oi gnwseis sou gia kapoio atomo den einai eparkeis gia na bgazeis symperasmata zwntobolo?


Mormengil gia na deis th diafora mas dhladh egw den pairnw kasetes apo Stasinopoulous gia na to paizw kserolas se pitsirikia opws esy.Oti agorasa to agorasa me 8ysies kai erxesai esy na antiparate8eis?


kai persy pou ka8e deutera ekane programa sto texas o seirinakhs (ton opoio 3erw proswpika kai einai gamw ta paidia) kai exwne aories hmouna ka8e mera ekei

[MoRmEnGiL]

virus to mesaio quote prwth fora to diabazw,pou briskete?sto giga post tou?
tespa


Mormengil gia na deis th diafora mas dhladh egw den pairnw kasetes apo Stasinopoulous gia na to paizw kserolas se pitsirikia opws esy.Oti agorasa to agorasa me 8ysies kai erxesai esy na antiparate8eis?

den to paizw kserollas.isa isa,de me noaizei na ta 3erw ola,adiaforw.asxoloume me oti mou katebei.
auto pou den anetxw einai an mou to paizouen oi alloi 3eroles.opws kanei o kk tzoi nte allenio.den phra pote kassetes apo stasinopoulous gia na kanw ton 3erola se pitsirikia.lol.kai mono h skepsh auth einai asteia.rofl..
auto pou eixa pei einai oti eixa daneistei kapoia pragmata (genika mporw aneta na pw oti exei disko8hkh pou 8a zhleua aneta o stasi).auta.
to 3erw oti sometimes isws fainete oti to paizw 3erolas alla far from it.aplws einai to styl mou kapws etsi otan milaw.
ok?ly8hkane oi apories? :rolleyes:

virus e3akolou8eis na mh me pei8eis :P :P :P

[Mitsmann]

o monos pou aksizei kai empistevomai stis kritikes tou einai o xronopoulos...

.-



παντως το καλυτερο θα ταν να διαβαζες μοναχα (σικ) το ER.... αφου δε σε παει με τιποτα. (μαλλον σε παει αλλα ασε το πως...)




π.ς. Αντε, ακομα να το κανει καποιος signature ??? Εγω εχω τα Ιερα Σαντουιτς, δε μπορω.

[Mitsmann]

α, ναι και συμπερασμα απο την Ελεγεια του Τζοευ.


οι Orange Goblin σας χυνουν τοσο στη μαπα, που θελετε υαλοκαθαριστηρες μετα.

[Kain]

ZHTW TO METAL HAMMER,KATW TO ROCK ON!!!!!!!

[nikodimos]

sou pe ena kalo logo kai phres fora pali?
auto

kata ta alla me kalupse o mpanti laki as mhn epanalambanomaste.

[Mitsmann]

σκασε συ, γαμω τους Κορνεβερμορ.

[nikodimos]

upertimhmenh mpanta tou kerata

mhn pw gia tous orange kornblin

[Mitsmann]

χαχαχαχα τωρα που το σκεφτομα ο Αλλενατορε πρεπει να χει ακουσει μονο τα 34 πρωτα δευτερολεπτα του Narcosynthesis. Αλλα αμα εισαι μεταλλομητερα σου φτανει.

[necropethamenos]

vasika kapou anaferthike (apo ton allen profanws) oti kai kala to hammer thavei oloklira eidi klp, diladi oti einai prokateillimeno me kapoia eidi enw to invader den itan!!!

Exw na pw loipon ta eksis: to hammer filoksenei kamposa kai polla eidi, o kathe syntaktis exei ta kollimata tou alla toulaxiston o kathenas kanei kritiki sto eidos pou goustarei kai vlepw kai kales kai kakes vathmologies se ola ta eidi. Akoma kai sta troumetala kai ta AORia pou fovosaste oti sas ta kynigane oi antipaloi. ST'ARMATAAA ST'ARMATAAAA.

i pareksigimeni kai kynigimeni elite....

Apo tin alli to invader erikse kasa sto twinaleblood twn pyogenesis me aitiologia oti "DEN EINAI METAl". Oxi oxi, prosekste to, DEN EINAI METAL. Ara kasa. Oxi "ara den to kritikarw". Ara kasa.

joey allen, diavazeis periodika me ta matia sigoura i me alla mesa (pou den tha ithela na fantastw)?

[MoRmEnGiL]

ZHTW TO WHITE DWARF!!!1!11!!~`1

[Kain]

Phdaw th mama tou seirinakh!!!

[Mitsmann]

...Και σειρηνες αντηχησαν ξανα στο φορουμ............

[VirusXI]

Apo tin alli to invader erikse kasa sto twinaleblood twn pyogenesis me aitiologia oti "DEN EINAI METAl". Oxi oxi, prosekste to, DEN EINAI METAL. Ara kasa. Oxi "ara den to kritikarw". Ara kasa.
OI MALAKES.-
Diskara einai.

[Buddy Lackey]

Vasika akrivws oti eipe o necro. To metal invader pragmatika ethapse pragmata me apokleistiko epixeirhma to "DEN EINAI METAL".
A kai eixe valei sto "fall babylon fall" twn veni domine 2misi stis 6 nekrokefales, TO OPOIO FALL BABYLON FALL GAMAEI OTI AKOUEI O SEIRINAKHS

[Buddy Lackey]

KAI STO PLEASANT SHADE OF GRAY EIXANE VALEI 4/6 GAMW TO SPITI TOUS

[Mitsmann]

Στη τελικη σιγα το μαλακα το ΣΕΙΡΗΝΑΚΗ να πουμε.

[necropethamenos]

Apo tin alli to invader erikse kasa sto twinaleblood twn pyogenesis me aitiologia oti "DEN EINAI METAl". Oxi oxi, prosekste to, DEN EINAI METAL. Ara kasa. Oxi "ara den to kritikarw". Ara kasa.
OI MALAKES.-
Diskara einai.

ton kosmo olokliro spernei.

alla ntaks metal ontws den einai.

sti kasa omws eprepe na mpei apla o syntaktis.

[MoRmEnGiL]

necropethamene mhn apanthseis plz gia to psog.PLZ.

[rockavlon]

prosekse th les. METAL invader. o kyrios POUSIOS ? 0 strogyllo den tou BALE ?? E? e? e? ?!

DEN THABEI ? AKOU TO DARE? DIABASE THN KRITIKH ? DES TO DIANOMEA ? DE THABEI E ? kala....

NIKO-BER-MORE WHORE-DHME kathe papariastou WAAAARRREEEELLLL DANNNEEE? = ARISTOURGHMA! TI les re gouorel dane, kalos oresths laskos kai tou logou sou. e ...ntaks nikodhme, sorry alla eisai ligo kati san groupie twn nevermore, xwris to seksoualiko meros.
eisai barouxas wannabe me tous maiden. oi opoioi paradexomai aneta ki as m arese to BNW, oti bgalane enan poly metrio disko.
none of you boys would. eidika oi POSades kiola. sorry alla to BE, an kai den einai KAKO apexei xiliometra apo to aristourghma. oso to akouw toso katebenei sthn ektimhsh mou. den tha katebei poly, alla nomizw oti merika grafontai ki apo enthousiasmo e ?!
To enemies eixe posa kala kommatia ? to omwnymo to voyager kai to ambi ? mhn to bgaloume diskara.ki as mh milhsoume gia paragwgh e ?!
oi fanboys BLEPOUN PANTOU ARISTOURGHMATA. eleos dhladh. tha mai o prwtos pou tha thapsw kapoion pou de m aresei. KAI TO EXW KANEI kai tha to ksanakanw, ki as einai pou leei o logos ka io coverdale autos. :P


@ necro-dead super session star !
o kathenas kanei kritiki sto eidos pou goustarei :P AXAXAXAXA no 1
vlepw kai kales kai kakes vathmologies se ola ta eidi AXAXAXAXA no 2
(poses patates diskous tou mhna ta tleutaia 2 xronia RE ?!!!! re mas blepoun re !!!!) ti me noiazei ama thapsei tous "den tous kserei i mana tous", epeidh einai xalides ? AN ONTWS EINAI panta e ? me koftei pou sou leei twra oti oi VR, px paizoun HARD ROCK agno kai opws prepei nan nai kai pipes :P eleos. POLY_ELEOS E ?! STARWOOD RE MOUNIA AAAAAAAAA!!!!! SUBCULTURE !!!!

[VirusXI]

Apo tin alli to invader erikse kasa sto twinaleblood twn pyogenesis me aitiologia oti "DEN EINAI METAl". Oxi oxi, prosekste to, DEN EINAI METAL. Ara kasa. Oxi "ara den to kritikarw". Ara kasa.
OI MALAKES.-
Diskara einai.

ton kosmo olokliro spernei.

alla ntaks metal ontws den einai.

sti kasa omws eprepe na mpei apla o syntaktis.

mhpws htan to Seirhnakhs? ;) ;) ;)

[Carcass_]

Kala ti leme twra, to invader htane gia ta skoupidia kai auto san periodiko ( kala kala den diavazontan oi selides tou kai auta pou egrafe o kathe paparos ) alla kai oi suntaktes tou. Den xreiazonte epixeirhmata, arkei na diavaseis ena apo ta teuxh tou.

[Kain]

O Joey Allen einai o mpempekos!!!

[Carcass_]

kai to white dwarf ontws xynei tis moures twn ellhnikwn metal periodikwn.

[Buddy Lackey]

xm ok an einai etsi tote na mh valei vathmo
NA GRAPSEI KATI ALLO KSERW GW (gia to APSOG milaw nai). Dld o THEOS FAKINOS sto hammer giati tou vale 10/10 tsak mpam? As to edine se allo gia kritikh (o KOUKOULAKHS ). Tespa prosopiko kollhma

[Kingryche]

pw pw wres wres nomizo pws o Rockavlos pernaei afta pou grafei apo ena periergo Systran kai ta metafrazei ligo Agglika-ligo Ellinika-ligo alampournezika.

stin Ellada einai ligo tsifliki i oli katastasi tou metal kai afto exei na kanei me tin dhmosiografia se megalo vathmo.
Ekmetalevontai vasika to oti to metal oi opadoi tou to vlepoun polles fores opadika me tin podosfairiki ennoia.Kai fisika epireazontai poli apo ta periodika.
Ena paradeigma einai o Giorgos Zaxaropoulos.Arxika prospathise apotiximena na einai mousikos mousikos,argotera anoikse tin Black Lotus mazi me to Stasinopoulo kai mazi pali anoiksan to Invader gia na proothoun afta pou theloun kai na kanoun to kommati tous.Pali me tis vlakeies pou wres wres legane (enw eixane merikous poli aksiologous sintaktes) to kleisane.E exoume omws kai thn Cosmic Storm pou kanei eisagwges se merika apo ta megalitera metal labels.Kai pws tha proothoume twra to emporevma mas?E pame sto Hammer...ekei pou ftiname tora glifoume kai apo tis 2 meries. Tha vazoume 10-15 selides diafimiseis,e kati tha kanoume kai me to disko tou mina e kai genika kapws tha tin palepsoume vre aderfe...

Sovara,akoma kai otan kanei tin pleon swsti kritiki giati na katseis enan anthropo pou stin ousia kanei emporio kai exei emmesa kerdos me to poious diskous tha proothisei?
Logika afto simvainei kai me arketous allous...

Kai prepei na stamatisei i vlakeia oti an simfonoun ta gousta sou me ton tade eisai katefthinomenos standard ktl ktl. Arketoi apo edw mesa exoun pleon akousei arketa pragmata gia na mporoun na diakrinoun an kati tous aresei i oxi.To oti sou aresei ena idiwma den midenizei ena allo idiwma (pagia taktiki sintaktwn tou Hammer gia na eimai on topic) kai oute prepei sonei kai kala na akous polla eidi gia na eisai anoixtomialos (allo topic afto).

[Kingryche]

Den ennoousa fisika oti ftiaksane to Invader gia na proothoun thn black Lotus alla gia na kanoun to kommati tous alla apo ena simeio kai meta me tis avantes katantise ahdia.An to eksefrasa lathos sorry.
Eides esi na lew pouthena oti to Hammer einai diaforetiko?Apla den einai toso proklitiko...akoma

Anyway to kako egeitai stous dhmsoiografous pou zoun panw sto metal,einai h douleia tous,to simferon tous.Den einai to mono to meraki tous kai i kavla tous kai otan mpleksoun ta simferonta tou kathenos mamise ta.Kai to kako einai oti aftoi olo kai perissotero grafoun.

[rockavlon]

egw paides pantws an grapsw to epomeno inveditorial tha ta pw eksw apo ta dontia, afou ta syntaksw etsi wste na diabazetai apo olous E :P

THA TOUS PW, welcome suckers, we 're here for your money!

anagnwrizw oti gia na sas ta parw, prepei

a) na exw conne me olous.
b) na prosferw auta pou diafhmizw fthna.
c) na diafhmizomai (TV RADIO PRESS NET)
d) na xw dwra (CD & DVD)
e) na prosferw ena fainomenika unbiased entypo. apo softest aor mexri grimmest black. se ena i dyo periodika. kati san na exei antistoixo ellhniko twn terrorizer kai classik rock - xwris poly anakyklwsh.

and so it shall be done.

[atom_smasher]

meta apo auth thn parenethesh as pw kai gw kati. kai ti thes na peis me auta allen?mhpws den ta gnwrizoume ligo polu oloi h mhpws h gnwmh sou gia kapoia sugkrothmata einai apla opws KATHE gnwmh YPOKEIMENIKH?mporei na exeis dikio se kapoia shmeia-h na sumfwnw mazi sou- alla o tropos sou mallon lathos einai.kai h gnwmh sou gnwmh sou.megaloi anthrwpoi eimaste...e esu ligo poio megalos..kai 3eroume ti mas aresei kai ti oxi.e kapws exoume katastala3ei klp.opote pws pisteueis oti to hammer ephreazei arnhtika atoma kapoias hlikias?sto katw katw periodiko einai kai thelei na poulhsei.faulos kuklos.prowthei kai prowtheitai.egw e3akolouthw na to agorazw pantws.e kai xestika sthn telikh an den gnwrizw se vathos ena idwma.auta pou akouw me euxaristoun thn vriskw.an xasw kai kana sugkrothma h disko e mikro to kako....einai tosoi pollooi pou den prolavainw na grafw.omologw pantws oti apo aor exw meinei ligo pisw.

[Witchkiller]

PS:Witchkiller esy an 8ymamai kala kati eleges gia kapious kratos kai kseftilisthkes opote mhn koroideveis ton Seirhnakh gia to an e8apse tous Orange Goblin.Kai sto katw katw pioi einai oi Orange Goblin den katalava?Aytos exei ta arxidia na prow8ei Richie Kotzen kai Last Autumn’s Dream mesw tou periodikou o Xakos exei ta arxidia na prow8hsei kati diaforetiko ektos apo Leaves Eyes kai Atrocity?


Kat'arxas pes mou pou kolane oi Kratos (proskinw to megaleio tous) sthn olh koubenta!OXI PES MOU!

Kata deyteron:sou ethiksa t'akousmata sou?Eipa tipota gia to aor/poser (pou goustarw trela poser)!Mipws perneis xapia?Kai an oxi mipws prepei na t'arxiseis gia na isiwseis?

Eipa egw "Kakws kanei o Shreinakhs" pou prwothei ayta pou prowthei?

Egw ksereis ti eipa: "EINAI M-A-L-A-K-A-S O SHREINAKHS kai o kathe Shreinakhs" o opoios kritikarei ena disko o opoios anhkei s'ena mousiko eidos me to opoio O SHREINAKHS DEN EXEI K-A-M-I-A EPAFH!Otan enas syntakths pou grafei s'ena klassiko periodiko einai px klassikoHeavas DEN KRITIKAREI ena disko Black (px) giati de mporei na kanei antikeimenikh kritikh s'ayto pou akouei.

POIOI EINAI OI ORANGE GOBLIN? Ela mwre,apo tis poiotikoteres mpantes sto eidos tous (Heavy Rock/"Stoner" that is),mpanta pou th proskinaei olh h skinh ths.E,kai?
Kai to "Time Travelling Blues" (pou eixe faei kasa nomizw) siga th diskara.Pleon klassiko einai mono sto eidos tou.

Symperasma Joe Allen:ama thes na legesai sobaros mousikodhmosiagrafos (h' kati tetoio) les "kyrioi egw akouw th tade mousikh kai tetoious diskous tha kritikarw"xwris na mplekesai s'alla limeria giati poly apla tha gineis rompa!

P.S.IRON BEAST RULEZ THE CITY RE MOUNARES
POU THA MILISETE KAI GIA TOUS KRATOS!

[chris_boss]

sou pe ena kalo logo kai phres fora pali?
auto

kata ta alla me kalupse o mpanti laki as mhn epanalambanomaste.Σίγουρα διάβασες το ποστ του;

[psychotron]

Joey Allen, enw prospa8eis na peis 5 swstes koubentes, autes xanontai mesa stis 34623662 malakies pou petas.
de se kathgorhse kaneis oti den ksereis mousikh. apo kei kai pera omws den exeis kanena apolytws dikaiwma na xarakthrizeis enan an8rwpo epeidh ta mousika tou gousta einai diaforetika ap ta dika sou.
exeis 8esei kapoia oria sxetika me th mousikh pou akous kai ta yperaspizesai (kai kala kaneis, de sou leei kaneis tpt gi auto) alla:
A) de sebesai to dikaiwma tou allou na exei diaforetikh apopsh h ki an akoma dexteis oti yparxei auth h apopsh, tote auth einai automata la8os.
B) de sou pernaei kan apo to myalo oti o allos mporei na akouei kapoia pragmata (pou profanws esena de s' aresoune, alla den einai ekei to 8ema) poly prin ta eksymnhsei-diafhmisei to hammer h to opoiodhopote allo periodiko.
C) xarakthrizeis tous allous me bash to an symfwnoun h oxi mazi sou ("egw akouw auto, kserw n akouw kalh mousikh kai den anhkw sth maza, ara opoios diafwnei einai probato kai akouei oti tou plasaroun"... isa re epanastath ths pentaras).
D) aneferes oti eimaste synomhlikoi (32) gia poio logo? esy o idios exeis pei se palaiotero post oti den exei shmasia h hlikia. ti prospa8eis na apodeikseis?

eisai mpetostokos.
kai poly asxolh8hka.

[Carcass_]

apo kei kai pera omws den exeis kanena apolytws dikaiwma na xarakthrizeis enan an8rwpo epeidh ta mousika tou gousta einai diaforetika ap ta dika sou.

Auto gia pollous pithikous edw mesa ( genikotera sto forum ) einai kati adianohto. Alla ante na kaneis enan pithiko na sumperiferthei san anthrwpo.

[Carcass_]

Symperasma Joe Allen:ama thes na legesai sobaros mousikodhmosiagrafos (h' kati tetoio) les "kyrioi egw akouw th tade mousikh kai tetoious diskous tha kritikarw"xwris na mplekesai s'alla limeria giati poly apla tha gineis rompa![/quote]

To pio swsto. An kai pote mia kritikh sthn mousikh h opoudhpote allou den tha einai 100% swsth, alla to parapanw einai to pio swsto. Etsi ginotane kai mia epoxh sto Seventh Sign, pou omws kateleige telika oloi oi diskoi na pernoune panw apo 7 ( vevaia to lathos htane oti o kathenas eperne oti tou arese - afou to akouge dld- gia na vathmologhsei ).

[VirusXI]

phgane gia upno rok :(

kai fobamai oti o fasistikos daktulos tou mod 8a to kanei miso to topic aurio :D

kai ayto akrivws egine.
To recital rockavlon/nikodimos/kain phre to mpoulo.
Elega na kanw split mono prin symfwnhsoun oloi, alla to ti syzhthsh egine kseroun oi symmetexontes.
8a 8ela na pw k gw th gnwmh mou gia pragmata pou eipw8hkan alla den einai anagkh na synexistei, opote 8a ta parei ws pm o rockavlon kai an ta dei kalws.
Merika posts twra fainontai ligo ksekarfwta (tou KingRyche px) alla ti na
kanoume, siga mhn ekana delete kommatia apo rockavlon posts.

[Joey_Allen]

Siga siga paidia enas enas de sas prolavainw olous……

Xekiname loipon prwta me ton kalo mas mormengil.Mono kai mono pou exeis mp3ografia sto aor den 8a prepe na milas.Einai pou einai apo ta agaphmena sou idiwmata.Ase mas re panexypne. Otan agapas kati to sthrizeis agorazodas to den daneizesai apo Stasinopoulous kai propantwn xereis pios einai o Catley kai xereis oti yphrkse tragoudisths twn allwn den ton xereis apo th symmetoxh tou ston Clive Nolan pou vghke to 1999 enw aytos diskografei apo to 78….

Virus sta arxidia mou kai gia to rock on kai gia ton Seirhnakh.O Seirhakhs einai endeiktiko paradeigma.opws 8a eides anefera kai kapious allous poly kalous sydaktes gia aytous den exeis tpt na peis ?An vriskeis emetiko to aor/glam esy mia fora egw vriskw 10 fores apath to stoner.Oso gia ayto pou les oti h moda exei perasei 20 xronia meta oi an8rwpoi aytoi apedeixan oti ayto pou paizane to 1985 to paizoune kai to 2004 aytoi pou edw sthn Ellada mas ema8an kapioi na apokaloume pozerades einai telika oi pio true mousikoi kai to pio true kinhma se sxesh px me Metalica h me allous papares pou koroidevan tous Motley Crue tous Cinderella kai allous sthn arxh ths karieras tous kai twra paizoune ala system of a down kai to 96 me load ala alice in chains.Skepsou ta ayta pou sou lew.A epishs ksexasa na sou pw oti to arxeio mou me posts tou er gemizei ena spiti 4000 cm2.Re den pas na kaneis gargares endeiktika exw diavasei kapia topic siga mhn ypografw se topic symphony x vs pain of salvation.Ennoeitai Symphony X.


Eyeamflesh esy apo pou xefytrwses ?Apo peritomh tou mpampa sou?Ade paixe parapera.To idio kai gia sena Kain.

Mitsmann emetiko vlakomoutro o Seirhnakhs kai oi alloi pou anefera paizei na xeroune ta 10plasia apo sena kai doxa tw 8ew den prow8oune gayvermore.Exw akousei ola ta cd aytwn twn gays kai 8a htane pio timio gia ton kyrio Xako na pei apo thn arxh oti ayto pou paizoune oi Nevermore einai ena mpastardema apo polla eidh kai oxi power metal gia na tsibane oi neoteroi opadoi.Amerikaniko metal einai oi Panzer oi Fifth Angel oi Leatherwolf oi Vicious Rumors oxi oi Nevermore.

Nikodime mas les oti exeis na piaseis hammer apo to sxoleio.Ti prwtotypo. Ase re file phgaine na deis an erxomai. Oloi ta idia lene prospa8wntas na to paixoue yperanw oti exw na to dw xronia ktl.To sxoleio ton Iounh pou mas perase to teleiwses ?Egw toulaxiston den to agorazw alla paradexomai oti an pesei sta xeria mou to ksefyllizw estw gia na gelasw pleon.

Geia sou re carcass anwtero eidos an8rwpou pou den asxoleitai me pi8hkous.O rockavlon einai sydakths tou invader ara kai aytos ena skoupidi.Esy 8a mas peis ti akous an kai apo to nick sou mallon esy akous skoupidia.En pasei periptwsei egw anafer8hka se sygkekrimenous sydaktes tou invader pou paw den eipa oti tous paw olous.Padws to skoupidi o rockavlon goustarei kapies mousikares den goustarei Bill Steer….


Atom_smasher kai omws yparxoune atoma pou den gnwrizoune ayta pou lew kai leei kai o rockavlon kai o ryche.Sou fainetai periergo dld ?H mhpws einai dyskolo ena paidi pou twra xekinaei na parasyr8ei apo tis paparologies tou Xronopoulou ?

Witchkiller toso oi Goblin oso kai oi Kratos pou akous einai gia gelia.Apo stoner pera apo Kyuss pou xekinhsan ayth thn Sabbathikh anaviwsh oloi oi alloi apla einai mastourwmenoi malakes pou paizoune oti epaize o Iommi to 75 kai xairoune ektimhshs gia to klepsimo tous ayto.
Epihshs witchkiller panw se ayto pou les gia ton seirhnakh apadhse mou kai esy ti douleia exoune kapioi sto hammer na kanoune kritikh se Britny Fox kai na mhn tous krinoune gia th mousikh pou paizoune alla gia to oti gnwrisan mikrh epityxia to 88-90 ara kai twra einai gia ton poutso opws kai ti douleia exei o Xakos px na kanei kritikh Tiamat.

Psychotron les oti de sevomai th gnwmh tou allou.Giati o Buddy Luckey thn sevetai otan leei pws eimai aksios ths moiras mou epeidh mou aresoun oi pozeries kai oi Planet X ?
Sthn Ellada prepei prwta kapios na ekymnhsei kati akoma kai to pio metrio pragma kai meta na paei o opados na to agorasei.Spania kapios na anakalypsei kati monos tou opote asto.Px pios hksere tous tool sthn ellada prin apo to 2001 ?mono osoi akougane alternative ara kairos sou leei to hammer na tous ma8oune kai oi metallades opote xwse 9 sto pousteratus.
An egw eimai epanastaths ths pentaras esy eisai tou difragkou re provatolaki.Ekei mas eftasan kapioi edw sthn Ellada na leme kapies apopseis gia kapia koryfaia eidh kai na xarakthrizomaste epanastates.Alla vevaia otan akous Alabamaalladallwn pws na mhn xarakthristei kapios pou akouei tous triths kathgorias Britny Fox epanastaths e 32xrono provato ?Thn hlikia mou thn anaferw gia na mhn nomizeis kai esy kai oi alloi oti exw kapio koblex.Ade paixe to poulaki sou twra kai mhn asxoleisai mazi mou mexri na er8ei h Scabbia kai na sto gleipsei.

Rockavlon apla goustarw tis apopseis sou kai th mousikh pou akous.Den 8elw oute zhthsa uposthriktes apenanti stous allous.Oso gia ayto pou eipes oti stamatas gia na mhn gineis Joey_Allen 8a sou pw oti eisai hdh Allen giati me ayta pou les enoxleis edw pera mesa kai malista pio syxna apo mena apla den exei ftasei akoma o kompos sto xteni gia sena.By the way pes to webzine pou grafeis na paw na dw synenteyxh Wharton.O 8eos Darren katakreourgei afou prwta tous exei skisei ton pwpoulh stonerades kai kati Wolverine-Fates Warning ekths kathgorias.A kai Rockavlon den symfwnw gia to A pleasant shade of gray proswpika to 8ewrw apo tis megalyteres apates sthn istoria tou metal ( ;).To pleasant kai to disconnected einai safws oti xeirotero vgalane oi palai pote megaloi fates kai an den htan o xakos kai o allos o gothas(kala aytos Sisters of Mercy den ekane synenteyxeis)o fakinos na vazoune 9 kai 10 8a xane hdh dialysei.Mhn milhsw gia kati O.S.I kalytera ase.


Kingryche ta pes ola.An htane oloi san esena kati kwloetaireies pou sthrizoune Iced Earth 8a xane kleisei twra.

Necropethamene eipa kai parapanw gia to invader oti phgaina poly kapious sydaktes tou.Sigoura kai ekei mesa yphrxane kapioi pou synagwnizontan se malakia tous hamerades.To hammer safws kai 8avei oloklhra eidh opws to aor eksairesh o Kisantzekian o opios kserei.To xeirotero gia tous kyrious aytous plhn Kisantzekian einai oti den kseroun kai parola ayta pairnoune promos(ayto de se peirazei witchkiller na pairnoune promos ths Frontiers px oloi oi asxetoi nevermorades se peiraxane oi outws h allws ths plakas Orange Goblin).A kai ksereis diavazw ta periodika me ta matia oxi me thn koilia opws profanws esy h me to mousi.To pyogenesis ektos tou oti to e8apse kai to hammer to 0 pou tou vale ligo htane egw 8a tou vaza –5.

Buddy se afhsa teleytaio giati afenws men vgazeis dika sou syberasmata apo osa lew afeterou exeis pei kai tis perissoteres geloiothtes.Katarxhn o Fragkos hatane apo tous prwtous pou anakalypsane kai prow8hsane mia groupara tous Symphony X kai magkia tou se anti8esh me allous pou penevodai oti anakalypsane group opws oi Nevermore kai oi Pain of Geliation.Den katalavainoune oti geloiopoiountai.
An den yphrxe to hammer 8a yphrxe kapio allo pio sovaro periodiko sth 8esh tou kai 8a xane epiviwsei kai perissotera fanzine pou nai poly pio aksiopista apo to hammer.To hammer einai apla na sou ma8ei 5 vasika group apo kei kai pera gia kapion pou exei apaithseis apo th mousikh den ton kalyptei.Ara malakia mou poiu eipa to 70 tois ekato oute to 40 den mou ema8e.Afierwma sto afierwma ka8e mhna se iced earth nevermore ktl.Epishs mhn ksexnas Buddy Lackey oti h Garmopoihsh tou hammer xekinaei apo to 94-95 kai meta isws kai nwritera me thn apomakrynsh sydaktwn alh8inwn metalladwn kai me thn eisodo kapion allwn oi opioi exoun san 8eous tous tous Coil.O nown noeitw.Mexri tote 6 xronia dld pou to diavaza kapioi sydaktes htane poly pio aksioprepeis apo tous shmerinous px o Stergiou h h Stefa pou kapioi tous eirwneythkan.Epishs Lackey an diavases to post mou 8a deis oti xekinhsa na akouw metal 1 xrono prin to piasw sta xeria mou opote diavaze kalytera ti grafw.Epishs me to internet apo to 98 kai meta sto ekswteriko ema8a pistepse me polla perissotera pragmata apo to opiodhpote metal periodiko.
Ayto me tous Soundgarden 8a to afhsw asxoliasto alla 8a sou synistousa na akouseis ksana kai ksana to Dog eat dog twn Warrant h to Shout at the devil twn allwn 8ewn kai na doume an o malakas o grungas o Cornell borei na gamhsei estw kai th xoufta tou.O Dan Huff kai o Darren Wharton gamane aneta esas tous stonerades tou kwlou o Vince Neil apla den asxoleite mazi sas otan aytos gyrize o Garcia kai oi alloi malakes tou akoma phgainane.
Den eimai o monos pou lew tous nevermore oti exoune nu-metal epirroes osoi den diavazoune hammer to lene.Oso afora beggars kai nevermore nai einai metria groupakia kai natane mono aytoi ?h lista goes on and on and on.
Mou ferane ta 2 Watchtower to 92 apo eksw opote san na exw akousei ti les kai sy e?Sieges Even prwtoakousa to 94.Alla den mou apadas o Jarzombek o paixtaras adigrafei ton Allan nai h oxi ?
Oi Orange Goblin gamane tous kwlous tous profanws.Den ekfrazw thn enoxlhsh mou pou 8avetai ayto pou mou aresei opws les apla zhtaw adikeimenikothta.Den akouw mono aor akouw kai alla pragmata.To 8ema einai h adikeimenikothta symferei esena ?Den nomizw giati an yphrxe adikeimenikothta oi Nevermore px 8a xane hdh dialy8ei.A kai kati Veni Domine kati Memory Garden kati The Mushroom River Band oxi apla einai na tous klaine oi regges alla eprepe na xane dialysei kalo 8a ekanan sto metal.Apisteyta varetes mpades pou den exoune tipota na poun.To 2.5 sta 6 gia Veni Domine einai poly egw 8a vaza 1.5.To pleasant shade of gray to xa xanapei aksizei to poly gia 6 sta 10 opote ena 3 sta 6 eprepe na parei to poly.4 einai megalos va8mos gia apates san ayto.

Enas profitakos ths alh8eias

PS :Psychotron mhpws eisai o Xakos ?Se vlepw poly prosvalesai.A kai otan kapios leei alh8eies sthn Ellada tote tou petame ena les malakies kai ola ok.Klasiko paradeigma edw mesa o mitsmann pou den exei pei oute ena epixeirhma gia deigma kai to koblex tou ftanei se tetoio shmeio pou eftiaxe topic sto general discussion na anaferei oti « kapioi thn kanoun apo dw mesa enw egw mpainw giati sas goustarw. »Eisai kai gleiftroni e kryoanekdote apotyxhmene ?

Rockavlon den xerw an 8a paw Bonfire vlepeis pronohsa na dw tous 8eous prin apo kapia xronia eksw kai siga mhn paw na skasw 30 eyrw na tous dw otan kapote tous eixa dei me ta misa lefta as pane na ta skasoune oi hammerades(axaxaxaxax kserw kai alla anekdota me ton Mpompo kai ton Toto).Isws omws paw L.A Guns alloi 8eoi aytoi Den xreiazetai fysika na pw oti oi proanafer8edes gamane vaerta mesa se kouverta kati Ben Ward kati John Garcia,Scott Reeder kati Natas(jazz doom leei to hammer ti allo 8a diavazoune kyriws oi neoi opadoi akoma)

[psychotron]

joey allen...
alla leei h 8eia mou, alla akoun t' autia mou.

ksanadiavase auta pou egrapsa, an kai amfivalw oti 8a katalabeis ti ennow. gia na sto pw me apla logia loipon:

den einai to 8ema oti les thn apopsh sou alla o gamhmenos tropos me ton opoio thn ekfrazeis, dhladh TOSO apolyta, sa na mhn dexesai oti yparxei allh apopsh.

kai nai, auto EINAI deigma hlithiothtas.

[Carcass_]

Geia sou re carcass anwtero eidos an8rwpou pou den asxoleitai me pi8hkous.O rockavlon einai sydakths tou invader ara kai aytos ena skoupidi.Esy 8a mas peis ti akous an kai apo to nick sou mallon esy akous skoupidia.En pasei periptwsei egw anafer8hka se sygkekrimenous sydaktes tou invader pou paw den eipa oti tous paw olous.Padws to skoupidi o rockavlon goustarei kapies mousikares den goustarei Bill Steer….

Anoigw megalh parenthesh me ta prohgoumena :

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psychotron wrote:
apo kei kai pera omws den exeis kanena apolytws dikaiwma na xarakthrizeis enan an8rwpo epeidh ta mousika tou gousta einai diaforetika ap ta dika sou.


Auto gia pollous pithikous edw mesa ( genikotera sto forum ) einai kati adianohto. Alla ante na kaneis enan pithiko na sumperiferthei san anthrwpo.


Symperasma Joe Allen:ama thes na legesai sobaros mousikodhmosiagrafos (h' kati tetoio) les "kyrioi egw akouw th tade mousikh kai tetoious diskous tha kritikarw"xwris na mplekesai s'alla limeria giati poly apla tha gineis rompa![/quote]

To pio swsto. An kai pote mia kritikh sthn mousikh h opoudhpote allou den tha einai 100% swsth, alla to parapanw einai to pio swsto. Etsi ginotane kai mia epoxh sto Seventh Sign, pou omws kateleige telika oloi oi diskoi na pernoune panw apo 7 ( vevaia to lathos htane oti o kathenas eperne oti tou arese - afou to akouge dld- gia na vathmologhsei ).

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Meta apo ta parapanw, katalaveineis agaphte Allen giati eisai vlammeno atomo. Den to lew gia na se vrisw. Apla otan den mporeis na katalaveis mia aplh protash, tote to iq sou einai se xamhla plaisia. Kai oso kai na me vriseis , auto den prokeite na allaksei ( to gegonos oti eisai xazos ). Profanws apanthsa sto polu swsto post tou psychotron, mias kai thewrw malakia na krineis ton allon me vash to ti mousikh akouei, na ton vrizeis kai na ton thewreis katwtero h kai egw den kserw ti , epeidh den sumpiptoun ta gousta sou me ta dika tou. Sto deutero post mou, sumfwnhsa en merh gia to pws tha eprepe na ginontai oi kritikes.
Profanws esu ta parapanw den mporeses na ta katalaveis ( kai den kserw kan an mporeis kiolas ) kai anti autou egrapses ena karo malakies. Den apanthsa se esena oute kan asxolithika me esena h me kapoio post sou. Ston psychotron apanthsa. Alla oute auto mporeses (estw) na to dianoitheis. Kai oudepote eipa ton rockavlon skoupidi kiolas. Kai sto telos deixneis poso kompleksikos kai vlakas eisai, me to na les skoupidia auta pou akouw. Les kai tha me stamathseis apo to na akouw auta pou akouw ( ta opoia den ksereis kiolas, ektos an lugizeis kai esu koutalia ). Opote, afou apedeikses thn thesh mou gia tous pithikous , frontise estw thn epomenh fora na apantas se oti sou lene, an sto eipane kiolas.

Ps. To ekneuristiko einai oti parapoieis plhrws osa eipa. Einai fovero na mhn mporeis na katalaveis 4 protaseis, apo tis opoie 2 einai quotes kai oi alles apanthseis panw se auta ta quotes.

[Carcass_]

Kai oso gia to ivader kai tous suntaktes tou... den tha pw polla, osoi htane kapote sthn grmetallers kseroun polu kala... gia kritikes pou parthikan apo to community kai mphkane sto invader autousies. Nai, deep purple kritikh. Kai to ti kanei twra to invader oute to kserw, oute me apasxolei kiolas.



Kala ti leme twra, to invader htane gia ta skoupidia kai auto san periodiko ( kala kala den diavazontan oi selides tou kai auta pou egrafe o kathe paparos ) alla kai oi suntaktes tou. Den xreiazonte epixeirhmata, arkei na diavaseis ena apo ta teuxh tou.

[Buddy Lackey]

Joey Allen :
E X E I S D I K I O
TO AOR KAI TO POZER EINAI H MONH POIOTHTA. OI NEVERMORE EINAI GIA TO MPOUTSO KAI VOUTHGMENOI MESA STO NU VOTHRO. TO HAMMER TO EXEI AGORASEI O GARM APO TO 94. O BEN WARD TA XEI ME TO XRONOPOULO (FYTEYOUN MAZI XORTO STHN AGGLIA KAI KANOUN PARTOUZES ME TOUS ELECTRIC WIZARD )KAI TO PLEASANT SHADE OF GREY HTAN KRYFO PROJECT TOU FAKINOU. EPISHS EINAI GIA TO MPOUTSO O FAKINOS. OI MEMORY GARDEN KAI TO OSI DEN FTANOUN TO MEGALEIO 10DWN AOR MOUSIKWN MNHMEIWN POU A MH TI ALLO, PROSFEROUN TA APEIRA STH MOUSIKH TEXNH (KYRIWS GYNAIKIA KORMAKIA NA LIKNIZONTAI - NAI KAI TO DIKO SOU MESA SE AYTA). EISAI THEOS
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[Kain]

Joey Allen ξέρεις ποια είναι η διαφορά σου με ενα αχλάδι ?

[Ethir]

Po po re gamoti mou ti exasa toses selides kai ego, ena flameas genima, threma den pira meros.
Enimeroste re malakes...
Opios evrise to poser gamiete... To poser eixe paragoges kai mousikous pou pragmatika gamousan kolous kai zilevan oi metalades.
Den ksero an to parapano einai sxetiko me to topic alla entaksei...flamed einai opote o kathenas petaei tin malakia tou.

[Solo Carriera]

joey_allen, σταμάτα να ακούς kyuss και όλα τα άλλα τα βρίσκουμε.

[Joey_Allen]

Carcass apadhse mou se kati:me nick carcass ti 8a akouges?hardline mhpws?Oxi den 8a se apotrepsw me ayta pou grafw apo ta skoupidia pou akous.To oti variemai na quotarw panw se aytes tis malakies pou els den shmainei kiolas oti den katalava ti pipes eipes.Gia mena omws esy eisai pi8hkos toso me ayta pou les oso kai me to gegonos oti vrizeis ena periodiko kai prosvaleis enan an8rwpo en prokeimenw ton rockavlon o opios etyxe kapote na grafei se ayto.Eisai toso malakas pou oute ayton den sevesai pou o rockavlon exei apodeixei me ayta pou grafei oti den trwei th fola tou Steer kai tou Amott kai exei ta arxidia na paradexetai ti ekane kai posa epairne otan htan se ayto.Oso gia iq asto giati de se pairnei.Asto giati mallon esena prepei na sou quotaroume ka8e protash kai mallon esy 8ewreis ton eayto sou poly eksypno nomizontas oti epeidh o allos den sou ekane quote den katalve ti pipes les.

Psychotron egw toulaxiston exw ta oumpala na ekfrazw thn apopsh mou estw kai me apolyto opws les tropo(kati ennoeitai pou den isxyei) giati omws den les to idio px kai gia ton trampakoula pou exei pei thn pio swsth kouventa edw mesa:|"Stamathste na kataxrazeste kai na aselgeite panw sto koufari tou metal".An 8es kai pio liana stamathste Lacuna Coil epeidh valate 2 varies ki8ares na legestai metal.Exete kapia metal stoixeia alla ti sxesh exete as poume me Crimson Glory? Den vlepw pou einai to kako se ayto.

Buddy Lackey oso kai an den to 8eleis to aor/poser prosfere sth mousikh 2 pragmata pou oi Sieges Holdsworth(Even to leme twra) den exoune boresei akoma na to prosferoun:SYNTHESEIS.PWLHSEIS.An esena ayto de sou fainetai arketo h se xalaei to image tous akoma kai o prwtos tragoudisths twn kleftwn 8ewn sou exei asxolh8ei me to poser.Gia na deis dld ti megaleiwdes kinhma htane.Alla ksexasa esy xekinhses na akous mousikh apey8eias me Tiles h me Vanden Plas(paradeigmata tyxaia).Oso gia to an oi malakes oi Soundgarden einai Zeppeliniko rock ti na poune tote kai oi 8eoi Great White(nai nai aytoi pou to hammer tous koroideve epeidh o tragoudisths tous moiazei me ton Giorgo Kwnstantinou)

Solo_Vlakeia den akouw Kyuss alla den amfisvhtw omws oti htane leaders kai oxi followers san kati The Quill ktl.

[chris_boss]

Joey_Allen αν δε σε πειράζει το συνεχίζετε αύριο το φλέημ. Πιο πολύ γέλιο έχει με το ποδόσφαιρο απόψε. Μην το κάψουμε το θρεντ :)

[Joey_Allen]

Den me endiaferei to podosfairo.An 8es na milhseis gia ayto phgaine sto general discussion.

[psychotron]

Psychotron egw toulaxiston exw ta oumpala na ekfrazw thn apopsh mou estw kai me apolyto opws les tropo(kati ennoeitai pou den isxyei) giati omws den les to idio px kai gia ton trampakoula pou exei pei thn pio swsth kouventa edw mesa:|"Stamathste na kataxrazeste kai na aselgeite panw sto koufari tou metal".An 8es kai pio liana stamathste Lacuna Coil epeidh valate 2 varies ki8ares na legestai metal.Exete kapia metal stoixeia alla ti sxesh exete as poume me Crimson Glory? Den vlepw pou einai to kako se ayto.

egw nomizw pws isxyei. telos pantwn.
o trampakoulas ti sxesh exei sth koubenta mas? eksefrase ki autos mia apopsh (swsth h la8os de mporw egw na to krinw, einai h apopsh tou), omws de bghke na xarakthrisei kapoion me monadiko krithrio ta mousika tou gousta.

oso gia to ti sxesh exoun oi lacuna me tous glory, einai profanes pws den exoun kammia. ekeino pou den exeis katalabei toso kairo einai oti mporei enas an8rwpos na akouei kai ta 2 group me thn idia eukolia.

[Joey_Allen]

H apopsh tou trampakoula 8a borouse na xarakthristei apolyth opws xarakthrizeis kai esy tis dikies mou asxeta an symfwnw apolytws mazi tou.
To 8ema einai oti oi oi Glory einai metal opws to gnwrisame enw oi Coil einai kati allo.Ara otan les oti akouw kai ta 2 me thn idia eykolia to men prwto group einai metal enw to deytero ena eynouxismeno bastardema me liga metal stoixeia pragma pou kapioi(isws kai sy metaxy tous) pane na mas plasaroun ws ekseliksh tou metal pragma pou den isxyei se kamia periptwsh giati ayto einai pou fwnazoume toso kairo:Na stamathsei o pseftoeksygxronismos. Den einai kako psychotron na paradeteis oti ayto pou akous den einai kan rock.Alla ama arxisoume oloi san ton tragoudisth twn Gayvermore na vaftizoume metal oti mas aresei opws kanoune kai kapia periodika xa8hkame.

[psychotron]

ok, as ypo8esoume loipon oti paradexomai oti den einai kan rock. kai pali den katalabainw, den exw dikaiwma na to akouw xwris na me xarakthrizei kapoios me bash auto kai mono?

[rockavlon]

@ JA. kala to osi einai arketa arpaxth ennoeitai. ta solo tou matheos gamane pantws....
ntaks milame gia typous pou apothewnoun tous ahahahahahhaa Opeth.
ehm den enooouusa me to na mhn ginw JA, oti ekanes kati kako- apla ekanes ena teratwdes post se megethos, pou diabasa mono tis 3am, logw aypnias. enoousa stamatw gia na mhn ftasei tis 100+ grammes.

soundgarden to ultra mega ok gamaei kai to badmotorfinger. auto nai htan sabbathila. oxi stonero-paparies me demi fwnes. kala to megalytero anekdoto einai pou sygrinane ton typo apo g.magus nomizw me coverdale :P NTAKS. gia klammata. o cornellis kalh fwnh twra. auta.


telos gia na thesw th syzhthsh se mia allh bash. opws exei diamorfwthei edw mesa. twra. sto er. mallon tha mpw gia na milhsw gia mousika themata. an den symfwnw, den prokeitai na thelw na synanastrafw idaitera ta atoma pou den einai omoideates mou. an kapoia alla atoma einai kool kai oxi eksypankides of both sexes i exoun big boobs pali kala. apo kei kai pera 0 pou tha lege ki o wotan. DEN SAS KRINW, poios eimai kanas dikasths ? apla ekfrazw kynika thn apopsh mou. kai sto ER, xwris na exw ginei ybrisths, eite gia plaka eite sobara.
ehm. auta. kai fysika klassika - anoixtomyalia E :P YOUR MIND MUST BE OPEN. xmou.

[Solo Carriera]

Solo_Vlakeia den akouw Kyuss

χαίρομαι :)

[eyeamflesch]

@ JA. kala to osi einai arketa arpaxth ennoeitai. ta solo tou matheos gamane pantws....
ntaks milame gia typous pou apothewnoun tous ahahahahahhaa Opeth.
ehm den enooouusa me to na mhn ginw JA, oti ekanes kati kako- apla ekanes ena teratwdes post se megethos, pou diabasa mono tis 3am, logw aypnias. enoousa stamatw gia na mhn ftasei tis 100+ grammes.

soundgarden to ultra mega ok gamaei kai to badmotorfinger. auto nai htan sabbathila. oxi stonero-paparies me demi fwnes. kala to megalytero anekdoto einai pou sygrinane ton typo apo g.magus nomizw me coverdale :P NTAKS. gia klammata. o cornellis kalh fwnh twra. auta.


telos gia na thesw th syzhthsh se mia allh bash. opws exei diamorfwthei edw mesa. twra. sto er. mallon tha mpw gia na milhsw gia mousika themata. an den symfwnw, den prokeitai na thelw na synanastrafw idaitera ta atoma pou den einai omoideates mou. an kapoia alla atoma einai kool kai oxi eksypankides of both sexes i exoun big boobs pali kala. apo kei kai pera 0 pou tha lege ki o wotan. DEN SAS KRINW, poios eimai kanas dikasths ? apla ekfrazw kynika thn apopsh mou. kai sto ER, xwris na exw ginei ybrisths, eite gia plaka eite sobara.
ehm. auta. kai fysika klassika - anoixtomyalia E :P YOUR MIND MUST BE OPEN. xmou.

Esy isan pou thapoxwrouses?

[rockavlon]

not the first or last ... to come back - pou den to kanw akribws. alla edw empleketai kai tonoma mou ligo. as poume oti kobw ta posts se ena barely minumum. den apoxwrw. satisfied now? mono posting of reviews.
pms, marketplace/self promo ktl ktl. no more parembaseis se alla threads, ektos an mpei kapoios kai pei malakia sta dika mou. basika pros Ad/mods ? ginetai o thread starter na xei mod dikaiodosia sto thread tou ?
auta. kai nai ntaks. osoi akoune auta pou akoune, ypothetw oti nai auta tous aksizei n akoune. i m not the one who 'll save anyone :P
HAMMER ON !!!! can't you see i hear einia ? the hammerhead in the wind. (a re bruce bruce.)

[eyeamflesch]

not the first or last ... to come back - pou den to kanw akribws. alla edw empleketai kai tonoma mou ligo. as poume oti kobw ta posts se ena barely minumum. den apoxwrw. satisfied now? mono posting of reviews.
pms, marketplace/self promo ktl ktl. no more parembaseis se alla threads, ektos an mpei kapoios kai pei malakia sta dika mou. basika pros Ad/mods ? ginetai o thread starter na xei mod dikaiodosia sto thread tou ?
auta. kai nai ntaks. osoi akoune auta pou akoune, ypothetw oti nai auta tous aksizei n akoune. i m not the one who 'll save anyone :P
HAMMER ON !!!! can't you see i hear einia ? the hammerhead in the wind. (a re bruce bruce.)

Wraia ta nea pou mas ferneis, mas dinoun tin elpida oti mporei na paFseis pia na eisai kourastikos.

Welcome back e :pink:

[Carcass_]

Carcass apadhse mou se kati:me nick carcass ti 8a akouges?hardline mhpws?Oxi den 8a se apotrepsw me ayta pou grafw apo ta skoupidia pou akous.To oti variemai na quotarw panw se aytes tis malakies pou els den shmainei kiolas oti den katalava ti pipes eipes.Gia mena omws esy eisai pi8hkos toso me ayta pou les oso kai me to gegonos oti vrizeis ena periodiko kai prosvaleis enan an8rwpo en prokeimenw ton rockavlon o opios etyxe kapote na grafei se ayto.Eisai toso malakas pou oute ayton den sevesai pou o rockavlon exei apodeixei me ayta pou grafei oti den trwei th fola tou Steer kai tou Amott kai exei ta arxidia na paradexetai ti ekane kai posa epairne otan htan se ayto.Oso gia iq asto giati de se pairnei.Asto giati mallon esena prepei na sou quotaroume ka8e protash kai mallon esy 8ewreis ton eayto sou poly eksypno nomizontas oti epeidh o allos den sou ekane quote den katalve ti pipes les.

Eisai teleiws varetos. O monadikos logos pou kathese kai mou thn les einai epeidh sou eipa oti eisai xazos epeidh den katalaves kan ti egrapsa. Kai indeed sunexizeis me to apla na mou thn les. Opws sou eipa kai eksarxhs, den tha allaze tpt. Profanws gia na quotarw kapoia pragmata einai gia na apanthsw panw se auta h profanws gia na sou dwsw na katalaveis giati egrapses malakies. Alla ti nohma exei telika...kanena.
Ton rockavlo pote den ton ethiksa, an ithela na ton thiksw tha elega sugkekrimena gia ton rockavlo, opws exw kanei me allous users sto parelthon. Alla den nohte na to katalaveis, opote sta paparia mou.
Oso gia to an akouw skoupidia...hahahahahaha...to thewrw tragiko na analusw h na sou pw to ti akouw. Outws h allos ston poutso mou kai h apopsh sou, ston poutso mou kai h uparksh sou. Kakws pou kathisa kai asxolithika me tis paparies sou kiolas.
Pote vevaia den katalava giati kathises kai asxolithikes mazi mou mias kai den apanthsa se tipota apo oti eixes grapsei ( oute pou ta diavasa kan ). Isws tha ftaiei pou eixes toses antithetes apopseis apo tous upoloipous. Enigouei...

Ps. Sunexise na les oti ethiksa ton rockavlon. Pou ksereis, mporei na ton peiseis kai na me vrisei kai autos ligo... etsi , gia na mhn aisthanesai monos.[/b]

[Carcass_]

Pantws, den einai tragiko na vrizei kapoios auta pou akous h tous anthrwpous pou summetexoun sta group pou akous ? :rofl:
dld den mporw na katalavw to nohma. Giati tosh, ma tosh vlakeia ?

[Dragonlord]

basika pros Ad/mods ? ginetai o thread starter na xei mod dikaiodosia sto thread tou ?
nope

[Mitsmann]

χαχαχααχαχχα εισαι θεος.


Στα αρχιδια μου αν εσυ και ο Σειρηνακης (η ο Σειρηνακης κ συ η και οι δυο μαζι η ενας μονο = 2) εχετε 10πλασια δισκοθηκη απο μενα.

Αυτο παει για ολους σας που εχετε το ιδιο "αξιωμα"....

Στα αρχιδια μας οι μεταλλοδημοσιογραφοι. Στην Ελλαδα εχει αναχθει το θεμα σε κατι "ειμαστε πολυ μουρες, ειμαστε μεταλλομητερες, ειμαστε Τζερναλιστς και στη γωνια μας περιμενει το Πουλιτζερ"

Δεν με νοιαζει ουτε να γραψω πουθενα σε κανα περιοδικο σε κανα φανζιν πουθενα... Επισης ακουω οτι μου καυλωσει και οχι οτι εχετε γραψει ολοι σας μαζι σε ολα σας τα περιοδικα (Γιατι ειστε και μουλτισεσσιον δημοσιογραφοι, ειστε μεγαλες μουρες)

Αλλα ανοιγω τα τοπικς που γουσταρω και κατα κανονα σατυριζουν τους καθυστερημενους.

Περιμενε μονο λιγο.... 1950 εχω.

[VirusXI]

An vriskeis emetiko to aor/glam esy mia fora egw vriskw 10 fores apath to stoner.Oso gia ayto pou les oti h moda exei perasei 20 xronia meta oi an8rwpoi aytoi apedeixan oti ayto pou paizane to 1985 to paizoune kai to 2004 aytoi pou edw sthn Ellada mas ema8an kapioi na apokaloume pozerades einai telika oi pio true mousikoi kai to pio true kinhma se sxesh px me Metalica h me allous papares pou koroidevan tous Motley Crue tous Cinderella kai allous sthn arxh ths karieras tous kai twra paizoune ala system of a down kai to 96 me load ala alice in chains.Skepsou ta ayta pou sou lew.

"emetiko" = apopsh - apotelesma akroashs
"apath" = malakismenh gnwmh - aoristologia.
Kata ta alla den exw kati na diafwnhsw me ta ypoloipa quoted, alla ta kserw hdh s'alla les kompleksikes pipes k variemai. Kai apo kei kai katw les tou kosmou tis malakies pali.
Eksallou den exeis akousei kan ayta pou 8aveis gkiozo. AKOU EKEI THE QUILL EXOUN SXESH ME KYUSS. Ta xeis kanei ligo kwlo, mhn milas gia oti DEN exeis akousei KAN, apla.
SKASE epitelous, den asxoloumai allo.

EDIT:
a epishs
Epeidh eisai kai axrhstos kai leeis:

To pyogenesis ektos tou oti to e8apse kai to hammer to 0 pou tou vale ligo htane egw 8a tou vaza –5.
To Hammer to Twinaleblood twn Pyogenesis to xe sta kalytera ths xronias kai to aksize kai gamaei oti akous kai den eisai kan enhmerwmenos. Kai starxidiamas ti 8a tou vazeis esy. De to kanes kritikh etsikialliws ('h to kanes?)

As koitaksoume ta epomena Rock On... filoi ex-grmetallers. Strange Dejavu it may be ;) ;)

[rockavlon]

twra to prohgoume sxolio re Virii einai ligo akyro - genika kai aorista, legane atoma KAI XWRIS na exoun akousei gia to dare. 2 pou akousane den tous xalase pantws. ANY how epeidh kindyneuw na ginw baretos. stamataw... alla auta ta sxhmata logou kai oi megalostomes protaseis.DEN M ENDIAFEREI kai xestika kai den ksereis poios eimai kai ti akouw. sorry paidia alla auto fainetai apo ta post.... sto np kai allou. :D

auta.

[VirusXI]

Rockavle, ta pragmata einai apla. Ap'osa exw akousei to eidos DE ME ENDIAFEREI afou de mou aresei. Den eipa pote oti oi Dare einai skata, afou den exw akousei kai de mou kanei tziz na akousw kati tetoio.
Osoi loipon DEN EXOUN AKOUSEI KAN ayta pou 8a 8avoun, AS SKASOUN. De 8a mas pei oute o TzoiAlen oute kaneis ti8akousoume sth telikh.

Ayto phgainei en merei kai se esena giati otan exeis kefia to kaneis kai sy.

[Dragonlord]

Χμμμμμ...και για να ανάψω μερικές φωτιές έχει κανείς εκείνα τα posts με Σειρηνάκη-marianna2525 κλπ από τη grmetallers?Ενδιαφέρον θα ήταν ένα τόπικ με αυτό το θέμα.
:twisted:

[freak brother]

Oi metal mousikoi swthres..twra kai se mprelok...

Oi metal mousikoi swthres akoune thn mousikh pou tous aresei alla ekdikountai tous false listeners pou akoune thn idia mousikh alla tolmoun na molunoun thn alhthinh xevi metal mousikh me ta MH Metal akousmata tous (akousate akousate) o skopos twn metal swthrwn einai na upodeixoun stous ALLOUS ti na akoun(to arxiko stadio otan einai akoma pitsirikades) kai ama den mporoun na to kanoun auto na tous APODEIXOUN oti auta pou akoune den einai METAL h oti den einai KAN mousikh.. autos einai o autoskopos tous.. pote den ta katafernoun alla akolouhtwntas ton TRUE metal kwdika timhs ... kai tis metallikes arxes pou tous didaxan (?) tha sunexisoun na einai oi monoi pou axizei na forane true manowar mplouzakia.. giati oi alloi pou ta forane amartanoun giati?
giati einai false vre kouta

[Carcass_]

Nai prepei na uparxoun akoma. Mallon, sigoura uparxoun. Thumasai mlk ?

[freak brother]

Nai prepei na uparxoun akoma. Mallon, sigoura uparxoun. Thumasai mlk ?

o seirhnakhs den htan pou egrafe me pseutiko nick kietsi?
xiaixoaoixaio
theos
kai ekraze san paidaki to hammer LOL
..

xaxa
kai elege oti to invader poulage pio polla antitypa apo to hammer kai diafores pipes

[Carcass_]

Hah mlk oute auto to thumomoun...hahahhahha...me to 2o account re file...pwwwwwwwwww.... ti epoxes. Thn kritikh ths amoirhs ths marias thumomoun mono...

[freak brother]

Hah mlk oute auto to thumomoun...hahahhahha...me to 2o account re file...pwwwwwwwwww.... ti epoxes. Thn kritikh ths amoirhs ths marias thumomoun mono...
ela mwre den thn eixe klepsei.. apla eixe daneistei kapoies ekfraseis.. kai protaseis .. LOL

[necropethamenos]

oso gia to ti sxesh exoun oi lacuna me tous glory, einai profanes pws den exoun kammia. ekeino pou den exeis katalabei toso kairo einai oti mporei enas an8rwpos na akouei kai ta 2 group me thn idia eukolia.

to opoion fainetai na einai to monimo provlima twn empolemwn pareksigimenwn elitistwn px Wotan.


Ma eksigiste mou epitelous, giati xreiazeste exthrous?! Kai malista mousika eidi ws afto!!

[marianna2525]

[quote="Carcass_":20uauea5]Hah mlk oute auto to thumomoun...hahahhahha...me to 2o account re file...pwwwwwwwwww.... ti epoxes. Thn kritikh ths amoirhs ths marias thumomoun mono...
ela mwre den thn eixe klepsei.. apla eixe daneistei kapoies ekfraseis.. kai protaseis .. LOL[/quote:20uauea5]

Κρίμα που ο deggial έσβησε τη λίστα grmetallers :(
Δυστυχώς εγώ δεν κρατάω παλιά ποστ.
Στους greek rockades υπάρχει μόνο η κριτική μου για το live των Deep Purple του 2000 στην Αθήνα.
Αλλά ο μεγάλος χαβαλές έγινε στη λίστα grmetallers (ο Σειρηνάκης με άσχετο nickname που την έλεγε στον Lord και στο hammer για το brave new world , μετά με το κανονικό του όνομα τα έβαλε με όλους, τα διάφορα ψέματα που μου είπε για να δικαιολογήσει την επίσημη παρουσία του στη λίστα grmetallers, κλπ).
Deggial, κρατάς αρχεία;

[Deggial]

Χμμμμμ...και για να ανάψω μερικές φωτιές έχει κανείς εκείνα τα posts με Σειρηνάκη-marianna2525 κλπ από τη grmetallers?Ενδιαφέρον θα ήταν ένα τόπικ με αυτό το θέμα.
:twisted:

Τα posts πρέπει να υπάρχουν στον παλιό υπολογιστή μου, αλλά τον έχει ο αδερφός μου στη Θεσ/νίκη. Αν και δε βλέπω ιδιαίτερο λόγο για τέτοια κουτσομπολιά.

Για όσους δε θυμούνται, ο Σειρινάκης έμπαινε ως Moonchild (χωρίς να έχει ακόμη αναφέρει το όνομα του) για να βρίζει και να επιτίθεται στο Hammer και τον Μπαλτά ("The Lord", Sound n' Vision). Δε ξέρω κατά πόσο ήξερε πως τόσο ο Μπαλτάς όσο και συντάκτες του Hammer ήταν μέλη της λίστας, αλλά έφαγε τρελό κράξιμο από όλους, τέτοιες συμπεριφορές δεν ήταν αποδεκτές στη Grmetallers.

Τότε βγήκε με το όνομα του για να πει πως ο Moonchild δεν εκφράζει τις απόψεις του Invader. Κανονίσαμε να βρεθούμε και από κοντά (ήταν κι άλλα δυο μέλη της Grmetallers, δε θυμάμαι ποιά) για να μου πει περί Moonchild "ξέρουμε ποιός είναι, τον βρήκαμε και του είπαμε πως εκθέτει το περιοδικό, αλλά δεν έχει γράψει ποτέ στο Invader αυτό το άτομο".

Δεν είχε περάσει πολύς καιρός απ'αυτό το γεγονός και έφτασε η συναυλία των Deep Purple. Η marianna2525 (κατά κόσμον metallisasmeni εκείνη την εποχή :P ) ποστάρει στη grmetallers περί της συναυλίας κι ο Σειρινάκης παίρνει το κείμενο σχεδόν αυτούσιο και το δημοσιεύει στο Invader (με το όνομα του φυσικά)... έπειτα απ'το κράξιμο σε τηλεφωνικές επαφές μαζί του και την αδυναμία του να δικαιολογήσει πως το κείμενο ήταν αυθεντικό, σταμάτησε να γράφει στη Grmetallers.

[Deggial]

H apopsh tou trampakoula 8a borouse na xarakthristei apolyth opws xarakthrizeis kai esy tis dikies mou asxeta an symfwnw apolytws mazi tou.
To 8ema einai oti oi oi Glory einai metal opws to gnwrisame enw oi Coil einai kati allo.Ara otan les oti akouw kai ta 2 me thn idia eykolia to men prwto group einai metal enw to deytero ena eynouxismeno bastardema me liga metal stoixeia pragma pou kapioi(isws kai sy metaxy tous) pane na mas plasaroun ws ekseliksh tou metal pragma pou den isxyei se kamia periptwsh giati ayto einai pou fwnazoume toso kairo:Na stamathsei o pseftoeksygxronismos. Den einai kako psychotron na paradeteis oti ayto pou akous den einai kan rock.Alla ama arxisoume oloi san ton tragoudisth twn Gayvermore na vaftizoume metal oti mas aresei opws kanoune kai kapia periodika xa8hkame.

Τις λέξεις γούστο και υποκειμενικότητα τις έχεις ακούσει ποτέ; Ακούω και Crimson Glory και Lacuna Coil. Σκασίλα μου αν οι δεύτεροι θεωρούνται metal ή όχι, μου αρέσει, ηχεί ωραία στ'αυτιά μου. Σκασίλα μου αν τους προωθούν τα περιοδικά ή όχι. Καθαρά προσωπικό γούστο.

[warlord]

o warlord einai o seirhnakhs

[marianna2525]

o warlord einai o seirhnakhs

Τώρα ήρθε κι'έδεσε :rofl:
Ο Σειρηνάκης μου είχε τάξει το bootleg των Deep Purple της Αθήνας, το οποίο βέβαια ποτέ δεν μου έδωσε (ευτυχώς το βρήκα στο winmx).
O warlord μού έταξε μια βιντεοκασέτα με Rory Gallagher (είχε και το Moonchild μήπως; )

Συμπτώσεις; :P

[warlord]

Sou eixa pei "otan aneveis Athina steile pm na synantithoume na sto doso"...

Kalh koufala kai o seirhnakhs.

[marianna2525]

Sou eixa pei "otan aneveis Athina steile pm na synantithoume na sto doso"...

Kalh koufala kai o seirhnakhs.

Είπα να σε πειράξω λίγο, μια και εσύ το ξεκίνησες.
Η αμέλεια είναι δικιά μου :(

[Witchkiller]

Witchkiller toso oi Goblin oso kai oi Kratos pou akous einai gia gelia.Apo stoner pera apo Kyuss pou xekinhsan ayth thn Sabbathikh anaviwsh oloi oi alloi apla einai mastourwmenoi malakes pou paizoune oti epaize o Iommi to 75 kai xairoune ektimhshs gia to klepsimo tous ayto.

O monos pou einai gia gelia eisai esy pou prospatheis me to etsi thelw na epibaleis thn apopsh sou kai de shkwneis kai koubenta mi thelwntas na katalabeis OTI OLA EINAI THEMA PROSWPIKOU GOUSTOU KAI DEN EXEIS DIKAIO ME TO NA KRAZEIS TON ALLON MONO KAI MONO EPEIDH AKOUEI DIAFORETIKA PRAGMATA APO ESENA!To katalabes ayto?Eisai pio kollimenos kai apo 3 kila mpetostoko!Sorry file,de thelw na se prosbalw alla ta posts sou dhlwnoun atomo kollimeno

Mastourwmenoi malakes?? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Enw ta pozeria kai ta metalla th bgazane me xymous kai laxanika e?
Kai klepsimo gia Sabbath?Exeis katalabei oti panw sto Sabbathiko hxo sta 90ies exoun ginei kainotomies ston hxo me ta xamila kourdismata kai tis paragwges (kainotomia de shmenei kai swsth paragwgh aparethta).
Oi Kratos kai oi Goblin den einai gia gelia epeidh den aresoun s'esena.Kai oi Legs Diamond kai oi Ferrari px gia mena einai panathlioi alla ayto einai monaxa h gnwmh mou.Ksereis ti shmenei h ekfrash:"KATA TH PROSWPIKH MOU GNWMH" triblaka?Kalo tha einai na th xrhsimopoieis pio syxna otan milas gia kathara ypokeimenika themata opws to gousto sth mousikh.


Epihshs witchkiller panw se ayto pou les gia ton seirhnakh apadhse mou kai esy ti douleia exoune kapioi sto hammer na kanoune kritikh se Britny Fox kai na mhn tous krinoune gia th mousikh pou paizoune alla gia to oti gnwrisan mikrh epityxia to 88-90 ara kai twra einai gia ton poutso opws kai ti douleia exei o Xakos px na kanei kritikh Tiamat.


De diafwnw panw s'ayto pou les.Apla h olh koubenta ksekinise gia to Shreinakh.

[rockavlon]

oh holy goat. second amandment saiiar.

[VirusXI]

O warlord einai o Joey_Allen.

[rockavlon]

o vairous einai o mpempekos :P
egw eimai to paidi ths ksaderfhs toy bebeckou

[Witchkiller]

Poios einai o Mpempekos re paidia?

[VirusXI]

Poios einai o Mpempekos re paidia?
Egw. asdfasd
Xaneis epeisodia =p

[telis]

Ρε η συντριπτική πλειοψηφία των δημοσιογράφων μεταλλοπατέρων ή μη, τα παίρνουν ή προσπαθούν να τα πάρουν από τις δισκογραφικές... Κατά την άποψη μου όποιος αγοράζει ότι του πλασάρεται από τις δισκοκριτικές έχει την ίδια προσωπικότητα μ' αυτούς που βλέπουν fame story και μικρούτσικο...

Joey Allen κι εμένα μου αρέσουν αρκετά poser συγκροτήματα, ωστόσο ρε φίλε δεν υπάρχει άσπρο και μαύρο στη μουσική... Μου θυμίζεις τον Πρασούλα!!! Οι πολεμιστές των MANOWAR από την μία και οι εχθροί SLAYER απ' την άλλη... Να φέρουμε και τον Δούρο για διαιτητή!!! Δηλαδή όσοι ακούνε και Poser και ακραία και ατμοσφαιρικά και progressive είναι ερμαφρόδιτοι:

Τι μαλακίες είναι αυτές...;

Όσον αφορά τον Σειρηνάκη, πιστεύω ότι είναι από τους καλύτερους... Οι άλλοι τα παίρνουν πολύ πιο χοντρά και το παίζουν κυρίες... Αυτός τουλάχιστον έχει το θάρρος της γνώμης... Για το θέμα αντιγραφή κειμένων, έχει τύχει να διαβάσω το ίδιο σχεδόν κείμενο σε ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΤΥΠΙΑ και ΤΑ ΝΕΑ!!!

Τα Γραφεία Τύπου τα γνωρίζετε;

[Mitsmann]

Δηλαδη μας λες οτι μπορει να υπαρχει γραφειο τυπου που μοιραζει reviews απο Deep Purple τωρα ε.

[VirusXI]

Όσον αφορά τον Σειρηνάκη, πιστεύω ότι είναι από τους καλύτερους... Οι άλλοι τα παίρνουν πολύ πιο χοντρά και το παίζουν κυρίες... Αυτός τουλάχιστον έχει το θάρρος της γνώμης... Για το θέμα αντιγραφή κειμένων, έχει τύχει να διαβάσω το ίδιο σχεδόν κείμενο σε ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΤΥΠΙΑ και ΤΑ ΝΕΑ!!!

Τα Γραφεία Τύπου τα γνωρίζετε;
ti sxesh exoun ta grafeia typou me ayto pou leme?
edw leme oti se mia mailining list pou grafane kapoioi sxoliazan to sygkrekrimeno 8ema gia Ntip Perpol kai o Seirhnakhs phre aytousio to keimeno enos melous kai to dhmosieyse ws diko tou.

[telis]

Όσον αφορά τον Σειρηνάκη, πιστεύω ότι είναι από τους καλύτερους... Οι άλλοι τα παίρνουν πολύ πιο χοντρά και το παίζουν κυρίες... Αυτός τουλάχιστον έχει το θάρρος της γνώμης... Για το θέμα αντιγραφή κειμένων, έχει τύχει να διαβάσω το ίδιο σχεδόν κείμενο σε ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΤΥΠΙΑ και ΤΑ ΝΕΑ!!!

Τα Γραφεία Τύπου τα γνωρίζετε;
ti sxesh exoun ta grafeia typou me ayto pou leme?
edw leme oti se mia mailining list pou grafane kapoioi sxoliazan to sygkrekrimeno 8ema gia Ntip Perpol kai o Seirhnakhs phre aytousio to keimeno enos melous kai to dhmosieyse ws diko tou.

Αυτό ήταν εντελώς χαζομάρα του... Προσωπικά είμαι πεπεισμένος ότι οι εταιρείες πολλές φορές δίνουν έτοιμες τις δισκοκριτικές, ειδικά όταν πρόκειται για κυκλοφορίες γνωστών συγκροτημάτων...

[Deggial]

Ρε η συντριπτική πλειοψηφία των δημοσιογράφων μεταλλοπατέρων ή μη, τα παίρνουν ή προσπαθούν να τα πάρουν από τις δισκογραφικές... Κατά την άποψη μου όποιος αγοράζει ότι του πλασάρεται από τις δισκοκριτικές έχει την ίδια προσωπικότητα μ' αυτούς που βλέπουν fame story και μικρούτσικο...


Σαφώς υπάρχουν τέτοια φαινόμενα στον ειδικό τύπο (όχι μόνο σε περιοδικά που ασχολούνται με μουσική), αλλά όχι όπως το περιγράφεις... είναι ασυνήθιστο να χρηματίζεται ο δημοσιογράφος και συνήθως συμβαίνει σε πολιτικά έντυπα.

Το εισόδημα από ένα περιοδικό είναι σχεδόν κατ'ολοκληρία οι διαφημίσεις. Στον ειδικό τύπο, οι διαφημίσεις είναι συνήθως επιχειρήσεις που σχετίζονται με το θέμα (όπως μαγαζιά ή διανομείς στη προκειμένη περίπτωση) και μερικά απ'αυτά προσφέρουν ένα σεβαστό ποσό για παραπάνω από μία σελίδες ανά τεύχος. Εάν θέλει αυτή η επιχείρηση ένα καλό αποτέλεσμα σε μια κριτική, απλώς χρειάζεται να θυμήσει στον εκδότη την οικονομική εξάρτηση του απ'την εταιρία ή να υποσχεθεί περισσότερες διαφημίσεις. Ο εκδότης, έπειτα, ενημερώνει τον υπεύθυνο για τη κριτική σε ποιές γραμμές πρέπει να κινηθεί. Για τους διανομείς στην Ελλάδα υπήρξαν και περιπτώσεις πιέσεων στα fanzines που έχουν την τιμή να λαμβάνουν promos απ'τους Έλληνες διανομείς.

Κάποιοι δημοσιογράφοι προσπαθούν έμμεσα να δείξουν πότε η κριτική είναι βεβιασμένη, για τους παραπάνω λόγους, με ένα λεπτό ύφος "ναι μεν, αλλά".

Σε κάθε περίπτωση, το γεγονός πως ένα συγκρότημα λαμβάνει μεγάλη προώθηση δε σημαίνει πως είναι κατ'ανάγκην άσχημο (εξάλλου η κρίση αυτή είναι υποκειμενική).

[telis]

Δεν επιμένω, άλλωστε δεν είμαι μέσα στο χώρο!!! Πάντως αν είναι έτσι όπως τα λες, νομίζω ότι ο χώρος μας είναι σχετικά σωστός σε σχέση με τα πολιτικά και τα αθλητικά έντυπα...

[freak brother]

Oi metal mousikoi swthres..twra kai se mprelok...

Oi metal mousikoi swthres akoune thn mousikh pou tous aresei alla ekdikountai tous false listeners pou akoune thn idia mousikh alla tolmoun na molunoun thn alhthinh xevi metal mousikh me ta MH Metal akousmata tous (akousate akousate) o skopos twn metal swthrwn einai na upodeixoun stous ALLOUS ti na akoun(to arxiko stadio otan einai akoma pitsirikades) kai ama den mporoun na to kanoun auto na tous APODEIXOUN oti auta pou akoune den einai METAL h oti den einai KAN mousikh.. autos einai o autoskopos tous.. pote den ta katafernoun alla akolouhtwntas ton TRUE metal kwdika timhs ... kai tis metallikes arxes pou tous didaxan (?) tha sunexisoun na einai oi monoi pou axizei na forane true manowar mplouzakia.. giati oi alloi pou ta forane amartanoun giati?
giati einai false vre kouta

nai nai xanadiavaste to ..

[Joey_Allen]

Telis an yphrxe akoma o Prasoulas sto metal hammer xereis posa kwlogroup styl Isis den 8a tous hksere oute o peripteras ths geitonias tous?Xereis epishs oti typakia san ton freak_kitchen pou to mono pou vriskei na prosapsei se kapion otan px tou leei oti oi tade karamalakes Nightwish den einai metal einai oti "to paizeis metallopateras" ktl den 8a grafane oute kan sto mh metal?Sth mousikh safws yparxei aspro kai mavro pleon eidika se ayto to xwro.Dioti otan aytoi pou prow8oun kapia group kai me ayta pou grafoun den pei8oun oute ton idio tous ton eayto katalavaineis apo kei kai pera....
Gia ton Seirhnakh pou lete an ekane tetoia vlakeia exete apolyto dikio na ton krazete.Omws o Seirhnakhs tou rock on emena proswpika mou deixnei oti kserei kai symfwnw me tis apopseis tou.Den borei dld to hammer sto teleytaio persyno ekplhktiko Kotzen na vazei 4-5 kai na leei poly asxolh8hkame.Egw agorasa to disko tou ton akousa mou arese poly kai meta apo kapies meres diavasa thn kritikh tou sto rock on kai egrafe ayta akrivws pou eixa sto myalo mou gia ton sygkekrimeno disko dld oti o Richie egine apla pio melwdikos kai oxi xazoxaroumenos opws mas egrafe o kserolas ekeinos.
Virus XI epeidh kathgoreis emena kai kana 2 allous edw mesa ws grafikous kai kollhmenous gia ton Kisantzekian ti exeis na peis otan mesw tou hammer milaei gia "parwpidismenous ellhnes" h "ti ka8omai kai grafw gia fusion se opadous twn Suffocation-asto" h otan grafei pws "ftaime kai emeis edw oi dhmosiografoi sthn Ellada pou den sas exoume ka8odhghsei swsta panw sth mousikh" ti ennoei arage?
Carcass 8a sou apadhsw avrio giati mou fainetai oti den katalavaineis kan ti anaferw.Padws den zhthsa apo ton rockavlon na se vrisei kati tetoia tis eirwnies kai ta mh epixeirhmata ta kanoune alloi edw mesa oxi egw.

[Kain]

Εμένα μου φαίνεται πως δεν καταλαβαίνεις οτι κανείς δε λέει πως το Hammer είναι καλύτερο απο το Rock On. Απλά στα παπάρια μας.

Κάτσε άκου Πόζερ,HEAVY METAL,whatever.Αυτο δεν σημαίνει πως είναι και το σωστό είδος μουσικής. Απλά κατάλαβε πως στον ανθρώπινο νού,πιο σωστός φαντάζει αυτος που ακούει τα πάντα ανεξαιρέτου είδους απο κάποιον ο οποίος είναι ο υπερασπιστής μιας μικρής μερίδας της μουσικής.

[Carcass_]

Nai indeed, to hammer einai akoma perissotero gia ta skoupidia. Gia mena proswpika toulaxiston. Kai exei kanei xeiroteres xontrades, alla htan kai se allh thesh na tis kanei profanws. Px sto into the pandemonium poso eixe valei ? mhden ? Kai meta to evale to 95 sta top 15 kalutera death/ thrash/ black ( h telos pantwn oti afierwma eixe kanei totes ).
Kata to megalutero meros ths h metallikh ellhnikh dhmosiografia einai provlhmatikh. Den kserw ti kanei to rock on, den exw diavasei pote rock on opote kai den krinw. Alla oute kai me endiaferei kiolas. Pote den perimena na diavasw diskokritikh gia na agorasw kati ( opws kai den diavazw kritikes gia na paw cinema klp klp ). Apeires fores exw parei diskous pou den exw akousei oute nota.
Periodiko pou mou arese kai gia to sthsimo tou alla kai gia auta pou egrafe htan ena germaniko ( Rock hard nomizw ). Ena teuxos tou eixa dei dld alla mporw na pw oti me ekfraze oson afora to sthsimo tou.

[Buddy Lackey]

[dikhgoros tou hammer] xm entaksi h gkrinia peri tou 0 pou xe parei to into the pandemonium kai to oti to 95 htan sth lista me best albums tou eidous einai akyrh (to idio kai to thema me cynic kai coroner pou pe o arxontas joey allen). Alloi grafane to 87 kai alloi to 95 e - 8 xronia einai ayta. Sigoura exoun graftei apisteytes malakies se hammer , opws kai se invader kai se rock on vevaiws vevaiws[/dikhgoros tou hammer]

[Carcass_]

nai alla shmasia einai poios to eixe valei to mhden... :) + thn politikh tou periodikou.
Tespa, outws h allos to na psaxneis ti malakies exei kanei o enas h o allos. an thelei kaneis na vrei kala ntokoumenta pou na apodeiksei ti malakies exoun ginei apo ta periodika ( toulaxiston sto parelthon ) tha mporei na exei na leei polla pragmata.
Alla sthn telikh oute auto einai to thema. Shmasia exei na einai o kathenas ikanopoihmenos me auto pou akouei. Ta upoloipa...

[necropethamenos]

Telis an yphrxe akoma o Prasoulas sto metal hammer xereis posa kwlogroup styl Isis den 8a tous hksere oute o peripteras ths geitonias tous?

kai afto einai kalo twra? apistefta fasistiki apopsi!!

diladi i apopsi sou gia tin sygxroni epistimi (opoiodipote pediou tis) px poia einai? oti prepei na kapsoume oti vivlio exei graftei apo to 1970 kai meta gia na mi dilitiriastei i skepsi twn newn?


Xereis epishs oti typakia san ton freak_kitchen pou to mono pou vriskei na prosapsei se kapion otan px tou leei oti oi tade karamalakes Nightwish den einai metal einai oti "to paizeis metallopateras" ktl den 8a grafane oute kan sto mh metal?

Kai sy ti eisai, o theos pou tha orisei TI einai metal kai ti oxi?


Sth mousikh safws yparxei aspro kai mavro pleon eidika se ayto to xwro.Dioti otan aytoi pou prow8oun kapia group kai me ayta pou grafoun den pei8oun oute ton idio tous ton eayto katalavaineis apo kei kai pera....

ok edw tha dokimasw na kanw kati pragmatika prwtoporiako. Tha prospathisw na sou eksigisw mia megali alitheia pou profanws sou diafevgei.

O EAFTOS SOU APOTELEI APLWS ENA MIKROULI POSOSTO TOU PAGKOSMIOU PLYTHISMOU. DEN EISAI OLOI.

OPOTE OTAN DEN PEITHESAI GIA KATI, O ANTIKTYPOS DEN YPARXEI STOUS YPOLOIPOUS ANTHRWPOUS TOU PLANITI.

ARA PAPSE NA THEWREIS TON EAFTO SOU AFTHENTIA/KENTRO TOU KOSMOU/KLIRONOMO TOU DIKAIWMATOS NA KRINEIS TA PANTA (STA ELLINIKA: PSWNIO) KAI ASE TON KOSMO NA AKOUEI KAI NA DIAVAZEI OOOOTI GOUSTAREI, AKOMA KAI AN DE GOUSTAREI TA IDIA ME SENA!!


Gia ton Seirhnakh pou lete an ekane tetoia vlakeia exete apolyto dikio na ton krazete.Omws o Seirhnakhs tou rock on emena proswpika mou deixnei oti kserei kai symfwnw me tis apopseis tou.

aaa ama symfwneis mazi tou tote einai ANTIKEIMENIKA kalos syntaktis e? Apo kei krinetai i poiotita enos syntakti, apo to an o THEOS joey allen symfwnei mazi tou?


Den borei dld to hammer sto teleytaio persyno ekplhktiko Kotzen na vazei 4-5 kai na leei poly asxolh8hkame.Egw agorasa to disko tou ton akousa mou arese poly kai meta apo kapies meres diavasa thn kritikh tou sto rock on kai egrafe ayta akrivws pou eixa sto myalo mou gia ton sygkekrimeno disko dld oti o Richie egine apla pio melwdikos kai oxi xazoxaroumenos opws mas egrafe o kserolas ekeinos.

katalavaineis oti i epixeirimatologia sou EKSAKOLOUTHEI na vasizetai sto an ta gousta sou sympiptoun me twn syntaktwn e?


Padws den zhthsa apo ton rockavlon na se vrisei kati tetoia tis eirwnies kai ta mh epixeirhmata ta kanoune alloi edw mesa oxi egw.

egw ta kanw, kai me tetoio post pou ekanes to xairomai kiolas!

[Deggial]

Sth mousikh safws yparxei aspro kai mavro pleon eidika se ayto to xwro.

Αν ήταν έτσι, η μουσική δε θα ήταν τέχνη. Η διαφορετική αντίληψη πάνω στη μουσική, ακόμη και πάνω στο ίδιο καλλιτέχνη ή κομμάτι, αυτό είναι το μεγαλείο της τέχνης, η επεξεργασία δηλαδή μέσα απ'το πρίσμα των προσωπικών εμπειριών του καθενός.

[Mitsmann]

Τζοευ Αλλεν σε γραφουμε στ αρχιδια μας. Παω ν ακουσω Νου και Γκραντζ.


Μουσικα σε γραφουμε στα τετοια μας ε. Γενικα, περιμενε, 1978.

[rockavlon]

Αυτό ήταν εντελώς χαζομάρα του... Προσωπικά είμαι πεπεισμένος ότι οι εταιρείες πολλές φορές δίνουν έτοιμες τις δισκοκριτικές, ειδικά όταν πρόκειται για κυκλοφορίες γνωστών συγκροτημάτων...

ARXIDIA auto de ginete. mono omplts mas eixe kopsei ta promo gia ena disthma, logw xamhlwn bathmwn. pou einai antideontologiko. kai mono i sony eixe zhthsei sepultura kai iommy na paroun 6aria. AUTA, kai se metallica balame 2. ka isto megadeth pou ethapse ito hammer 4-5 :P

mh les oti sou katebei e ?!

den kserw gia to seiri - profanws epeidh den hmoun sthn lista pou lete.
alla i perpol meta apo to slaves ent masters ... kai pou yparxoun, yparxoun gia na apothenwntai apo ton thesalonikio ton mparmpa stath. kalos o morse alla oi syntheseis einai baretes as fuck.


πιο σωστός φαντάζει αυτος που ακούει τα πάντα ανεξαιρέτου είδους απο κάποιον ο οποίος είναι ο υπερασπιστής μιας μικρής μερίδας της μουσικής.

ehm poios apo edw mesa akouei apo AOR mexri black ? kala to teleutaio oxi fanatika :P... enas peritomhmenos metallopateras.

arnhseis kai aforismoi omws paides i brisies den einai epixeirhmmata. antitheta deixnoun elleipsh autwn. siga poios eisai re nekropethamene pou apaksieis na apanthseis kai petas dyo stereotypes apanthseis, tou styl eisai blakas kai den ksereis ti sou ginetai..


got two words for ya. Cookie monster vox... oops that's three words for ya.mporoume na xarakthrisoume thn texnh me kapoia krithria sxetika antikeimenika ? peite mou. px artiothta sto paiksimo, xwris faltsa, swsto kourdisma ktl ? i texnh gia na nai texnh prepei na basizetai se swsth texnikh. epipleon - i brutalaria sta fwnhtika einai eksorismou kati to faltso/lathos kati kakohxo. ypokeimenika krineis to an s aresei i oxi.
alla to idio epixeirhma pou exete eseis. oti den prepei na niwthoume dikaiwmenoi, gia tis mousikes mas epiloges, den prepei na to antistrepsoume kiola. dhladh epeidh areskeste se AXEM syntriptikh pleiopshfia se auta pou einai ypshlobathma sto xammer yparxoun 2 periptewseis. H to xamma na xtypaei spot on - kai na probalei groupares (goux goux) olh thn wra (aka prowthei modes) opotenes, tautizomenoi me ta graofumena tou eiste dikaiwmenoi gia ti mousikh sas epilogh.(alla s ayth thn periptwsh giati ta pernoun oi problhmatikoi dhmosiografoi twn specialized entypwn ???) i APLOUSTATA, olws tyxaiws symfoneitai m auto pou sas lene. dhladh led to the slaughter san lambs. dhladh akolouthate mia grammh. nai breite mou mia kalh kritikh se AOR, ektos apo kisentzekian ki as pethanw. pou kai autos wres ores thabei pramata xwris logo. ehm basika nero sto xabani kopaname paidia... opote ama thete apanthste sobara s auta ta KAVTA erwthmata. phxiaies apanthseis me kefalaia sto 20 tha mou fanoun sasn deigmata pithikismou e ?!

[freak brother]

alhtes roufianoi
dhmosiografoi

[Gabriel]

nai breite mou mia kalh kritikh se AOR, ektos apo kisentzekian ki as pethanw.

Kapoios !?!?




(rockavlon :pink:, mh moy agriepseis)

[Buddy Lackey]

rockavlon mh pethaneis alla o Koskorhs sto hammer (mporei kai o Symeliadhs) exei kanei kales kritikes se arketa aor.

[Buddy Lackey]

Απλά κατάλαβε πως στον ανθρώπινο νού,πιο σωστός φαντάζει αυτος που ακούει τα πάντα ανεξαιρέτου είδους απο κάποιον ο οποίος είναι ο υπερασπιστής μιας μικρής μερίδας της μουσικής.
Ntaks ti akyro einai ayto ...
"ston anthrwpino nou pio swstos fantazei aytos pou akouei .. " eleos ti ekfrash einai dayth?. Dhladh dedomena o anthrwpinos nous theorei pio swsto ton mousiko plouralismo sta gousta? .. Exei ftiaxtei etsi o eggefalos dld? Jesus Christ ...
Kai ama kapoios diladi goustarei na akouei mono jazz 'h mono xevimetal, einai gia lithovolismo ? 'h den einai "swstos"? Siga ... tosh wra ayto leme oti den yparxei swsto kai lathos sta gousta (ntaks paizetai ayto e :P ) . Epishs safws kai KANEIS den akouei ta panta.

[VirusXI]

Virus XI epeidh kathgoreis emena kai kana 2 allous edw mesa ws grafikous kai kollhmenous gia ton Kisantzekian ti exeis na peis otan mesw tou hammer milaei gia "parwpidismenous ellhnes" h "ti ka8omai kai grafw gia fusion se opadous twn Suffocation-asto" h otan grafei pws "ftaime kai emeis edw oi dhmosiografoi sthn Ellada pou den sas exoume ka8odhghsei swsta panw sth mousikh" ti ennoei arage?

re megale, pote 8a katalaveis oti STA PAPARIA MOU emenane ti kanei / ti leei o ka8e syntakths. Ntaks symfwnw me ayto pou anafereis, alla kamia sxesh... Ap'ayta pou sou eipa, esy gia ton Kizantzekian exeis na mou apanthseis?
E den exeis na apanthseis, les oti sou katevei. Ante geia!



den kserw gia to seiri - profanws epeidh den hmoun sthn lista pou lete.
alla i perpol meta apo to slaves ent masters ... kai pou yparxoun, yparxoun gia na apothenwntai apo ton thesalonikio ton mparmpa stath. kalos o morse alla oi syntheseis einai baretes as fuck.

Edw 8a gkriniaksw allh mia fora, den mas noiazei sth sygkekrimenh syzhthsh h apopsh sou gia Ntip Perpol rockavle, see the thread's title =p


got two words for ya. Cookie monster vox... oops that's three words for ya.mporoume na xarakthrisoume thn texnh me kapoia krithria sxetika antikeimenika ? peite mou. px artiothta sto paiksimo, xwris faltsa, swsto kourdisma ktl ? i texnh gia na nai texnh prepei na basizetai se swsth texnikh. epipleon - i brutalaria sta fwnhtika einai eksorismou kati to faltso/lathos kati kakohxo. ypokeimenika krineis to an s aresei i oxi.
alla to idio epixeirhma pou exete eseis. oti den prepei na niwthoume dikaiwmenoi, gia tis mousikes mas epiloges, den prepei na to antistrepsoume kiola. dhladh epeidh areskeste se AXEM syntriptikh pleiopshfia se auta pou einai ypshlobathma sto xammer yparxoun 2 periptewseis. H to xamma na xtypaei spot on - kai na probalei groupares (goux goux) olh thn wra (aka prowthei modes) opotenes, tautizomenoi me ta graofumena tou eiste dikaiwmenoi gia ti mousikh sas epilogh.(alla s ayth thn periptwsh giati ta pernoun oi problhmatikoi dhmosiografoi twn specialized entypwn ???) i APLOUSTATA, olws tyxaiws symfoneitai m auto pou sas lene. dhladh led to the slaughter san lambs. dhladh akolouthate mia grammh. nai breite mou mia kalh kritikh se AOR, ektos apo kisentzekian ki as pethanw. pou kai autos wres ores thabei pramata xwris logo. ehm basika nero sto xabani kopaname paidia... opote ama thete apanthste sobara s auta ta KAVTA erwthmata. phxiaies apanthseis me kefalaia sto 20 tha mou fanoun sasn deigmata pithikismou e ?!

Oso gia to prwto peri texnhs, exeis dikio ews ena shmeio. Alla an apofasiseis na krineis etsi psyxra kai amerolhpta ti ein "texnh" kai ti oxi profanws 8a akurw8oun kai oles oi dikes sou protimhseis.
Telos katalave, opws kai opoiosdhpote pou exei kollhsei me th karamela "akoute oti einai ypshlova8mo sto Hammer" oti oi ISIS p.x. kai opoiosdhpote allos anaferete DEN PERIMENE TO HAMMER GIA NA TON AKOUSOUNE. Eleos, lete malakies, yparxoun tosoi tropoi na akousei kaneis kati neo kai den einai apokleistika ta periodika. Kai yparxei fysika ksanaleme h periptwsh na ARESOUN ONTWS oloi aytoi stous ypoloipous plhn esas logw goustou kai oxi logw trend.

Telos epeidh poly ala8hto peftei gia to Rock On:
Γίνε συνδρομητής του ROCK ON και κέρδισε πλούσια δώρα...
- μπλουζάκια ROCK ON με υπογραφές απ' όλους τους NIGHTWISH
- αφίσες NIGHTWISH με υπογραφές απ' όλο το συγκρότημα
- μπλουζάκια ROCK ON με υπογραφές απο τον Geoff Tate και τον Scot Rockenfield
- promo cd "The neon God pt 1" των WASP με την υπογραφή του Blackie Lawless
- αφίσες WASP με την υπογραφή του Blackie Lawless
- αφίσες HIM με υπογραφές απ' όλο το συγκρότημα
- CD των ΗΙΜ με την υπογραφή του Ville Vallo
- μπλουζάκια ROCK ON με υπογραφές απο τους ILL NINO
- τεύχη ROCK ON με υπογραφές απο τους ILL NINO
- CD των SCORPIONS με υπογραφή των μελών του συγκροτήματος
- Υπογεγραμμένα μπλουζάκια ROCK ON από Dave Mustaine (MEGADETH)
- ANTHRAX
- IN FLAMES
- SENTENCED
- KATATONIA
- THE HAUNTED
- PAIN OF SALVATION
- Chris Caffery (SAVATAGE)
- Zak. Stevens (ex-SAVATAGE, CIRCLE II CIRCLE)

E ntaks, megalh diafora apto Hammer. Mia proxeirh episkepsh sto site ekana eh.

[eyeamflesch]

ROGKABLE DEN EIPES PWS DE THA KSANAKAMEIS MALAKIA POST?

[Kain]

Απλά κατάλαβε πως στον ανθρώπινο νού,πιο σωστός φαντάζει αυτος που ακούει τα πάντα ανεξαιρέτου είδους απο κάποιον ο οποίος είναι ο υπερασπιστής μιας μικρής μερίδας της μουσικής.
Ntaks ti akyro einai ayto ...
"ston anthrwpino nou pio swstos fantazei aytos pou akouei .. " eleos ti ekfrash einai dayth?. Dhladh dedomena o anthrwpinos nous theorei pio swsto ton mousiko plouralismo sta gousta? .. Exei ftiaxtei etsi o eggefalos dld? Jesus Christ ...
Kai ama kapoios diladi goustarei na akouei mono jazz 'h mono xevimetal, einai gia lithovolismo ? 'h den einai "swstos"? Siga ... tosh wra ayto leme oti den yparxei swsto kai lathos sta gousta (ntaks paizetai ayto e :P ) . Epishs safws kai KANEIS den akouei ta panta.


Χμ μάλλον λανθασμένα το διατύπωσα.
Εννοώ πως για έναν τρίτο,πιο σωστός μουσικά φαντάζει αυτος που ακουει παραπάνω απο 1 είδος μουσικής και δεν είναι κολλημένος σε κατι. Δεν είπα να μη θέλεις να ακούς μόνο Jazz,rock,insert-fav-music-εδώ απλά να μην είσαι αρνητικός σε ολα τα αλλα και να θεωρείς αυτο που ακούς το μοναδικό είδος το οποιό αξίζει.

[rockavlon]

erwthsh giati egw pou akouw duran duran kai belinda kai den kserw gw ti allo eimai metallopateras. ?

[Buddy Lackey]

giati kaneis khrygma

[rockavlon]

pio poly apo to avatar sou ? exexexexe ??
ela mwre...

[necropethamenos]

arnhseis kai aforismoi omws paides i brisies den einai epixeirhmmata. antitheta deixnoun elleipsh autwn. siga poios eisai re nekropethamene pou apaksieis na apanthseis kai petas dyo stereotypes apanthseis, tou styl eisai blakas kai den ksereis ti sou ginetai..

ma ti les twra, pou eides na apaksiw na apantisw?!! eides kati "lakwniko" stin apantisi mou sto post tou allen?! 9.000 grammes post einai!!!!

Thes na antapantiseis stin apantisi mou? Piase tis fraseis mou pou se enoxlisan kai sxoliase tes. Me to na les etsi genika "apaksieis" mallon esy fainesai na apaksieis na me katigoriseis gia kati sygkekrimeno.


got two words for ya. Cookie monster vox... oops that's three words for ya.mporoume na xarakthrisoume thn texnh me kapoia krithria sxetika antikeimenika ? peite mou. px artiothta sto paiksimo, xwris faltsa, swsto kourdisma ktl ? i texnh gia na nai texnh prepei na basizetai se swsth texnikh.

oute kan. ektos an diaxwriseis tin SWSTI apo tin PROIGMENI texniki opou milas gia kapoia standards. Episis ta texnika kritiria gia to kathe eidos fysika den einai idia. Eksartatai panta apo to poio einai to zitoumeno (texnika) sto eidos. Diladi fantazomai akoma sta pio thoryvwdi idi (pou egw den akouw) yparxoun texnika kritiria ta opoia mporeis na sygkrineis.

Gia mena pantws otan kati mou aresei, apla mou aresei. Oti kai na peis, oti kai na analyseis, apla mou aresei. Ama einai ksekourdisto tha me xalasei alla nomizw oti ekei teleiwnoun oi apaitiseis mou.


epipleon - i brutalaria sta fwnhtika einai eksorismou kati to faltso/lathos kati kakohxo. ypokeimenika krineis to an s aresei i oxi.

a) diavase ta parapanw. yparxoun kritiria akoma kai gia ta brutal fwnitika, apla epeidi yparxei ena texniko zitoumeno sto eidos.

b) tipota den einai eksorismou kakoixo.

c) ma twra sou fainetai na min ypostirizw tin ypokeimenikotita san vasi tis krisis mou gia tin mousiki? Posa posts mou exeis diavasei pou san vasi exoun to "DEN YPARXOUN PRAGMATIKA KRITIRIA"?


alla to idio epixeirhma pou exete eseis. oti den prepei na niwthoume dikaiwmenoi, gia tis mousikes mas epiloges, den prepei na to antistrepsoume kiola. dhladh epeidh areskeste se AXEM syntriptikh pleiopshfia se auta pou einai ypshlobathma sto xammer yparxoun 2 periptewseis. H to xamma na xtypaei spot on - kai na probalei groupares (goux goux) olh thn wra (aka prowthei modes) opotenes, tautizomenoi me ta graofumena tou eiste dikaiwmenoi gia ti mousikh sas epilogh.

!!! Pisteveis oti otan leme "den einai anagki na eisai PERIFANOS gia afto pou akous, einai apla mousiki" ennooume oti EMEIS eimaste perifanoi? I katalava lathos kai ennoeis kati allo?!
Einai apla mousiki.
Den exoume polemo.


(alla s ayth thn periptwsh giati ta pernoun oi problhmatikoi dhmosiografoi twn specialized entypwn ???) i APLOUSTATA, olws tyxaiws symfoneitai m auto pou sas lene. dhladh led to the slaughter san lambs. dhladh akolouthate mia grammh.

an symfwneis eisai provato. prosekse me, afto grafeis apo panw. ama symfwneis eisai provato.
NA mia kala stirigmeni apopsi. Evge.
Exeis kati pio dogmatiko na peis mipws? Mi se kovw panw sto kalytero.


nai breite mou mia kalh kritikh se AOR, ektos apo kisentzekian ki as pethanw. pou kai autos wres ores thabei pramata xwris logo.

giati EKTOS kisatzekian? Antiproswpevei ti dikia sas merida akroatwn sto periodiko. Se pososto analogo tou pragmatikou. Poio einai to lathos edw? Eprepe na exeis 7 syntaktes na grafoun gia AOR? giati? Afou eisai mikro pososto!!


ehm basika nero sto xabani kopaname paidia... opote ama thete apanthste sobara s auta ta KAVTA erwthmata. phxiaies apanthseis me kefalaia sto 20 tha mou fanoun sasn deigmata pithikismou e ?!

nai look beyond the size omws e. den einai oti epeidi grafw ETSI den exw epixeirimata.

KAI TO KSANALEW. Grafw opws milaw. Gia'fto grafw etsi. Etsi tha milousa. Prepei na to grapsw ston kathena sas ksexwrista?

[rockavlon]

ehm, ntaks, apla an kaneis post me kefalaia mou fainetai ligo geleio - kai mia endeiksh oti xaneis thn psyxraimia sou. when it happens to me - pali lowercase grafw...


an symfwneis eisai provato. prosekse me, afto grafeis apo panw. ama symfwneis eisai provato.
NA mia kala stirigmeni apopsi. Evge.
Exeis kati pio dogmatiko na peis mipws? Mi se kovw panw sto kalytero.


oh -oh - eipa - an ;olws tyxaiws ta gousta sou sympiptoun me to top 20 to hammer - lew - eikazw :P oti auto deixnei mia tash akolouthishs mias a grammhs. peripou opws salagane ta probata. twra ti les esy ...... egw mia paromoiwsh ekana... :P



nai breite mou mia kalh kritikh se AOR, ektos apo kisentzekian ki as pethanw. pou kai autos wres ores thabei pramata xwris logo.


sorry quotarisa to diko mou kai bariemai na c/p again...
ehm basika dude. DEN ekfrazei to diko mou eidos ???? akroatwn kapoios pou bazei 6/10 sto DARE. :P ekane akribws oti kanane stous peosgenesis.
esy to briskeis aristourghma, e tespa.... :P kai o kisetzek einai kai megalo pozeri me thn kakia ennoia... dioti yparxei kai auth.

[necropethamenos]

ehm, ntaks, apla an kaneis post me kefalaia mou fainetai ligo geleio - kai mia endeiksh oti xaneis thn psyxraimia sou. when it happens to me - pali lowercase grafw...

e ok geloio einai na grafeis to geloio me "ei". alla epi tou thematos, e kai epeidi esy den grafeis etsi PREPEI na akolouthisw to paradeigma sou?



oh -oh - eipa - an ;olws tyxaiws ta gousta sou sympiptoun me to top 20 to hammer - lew - eikazw :P oti auto deixnei mia tash akolouthishs mias a grammhs. peripou opws salagane ta probata. twra ti les esy ...... egw mia paromoiwsh ekana... :P

ma giati kataligeis se afto to symperasma?

Kai ti malakies mou les gia to hammer, exw trelles diafwnies me tis mpantes pou eksymnei. Apla den to kanw thema giati apla ...den einai anagkasmenoi na exoun tin apopsi mou!!!!!

Alla as ypothesoume oti mou aresei AKRIVWS oti prowthei to hammer ok? AKOMA KIAFTO den me kanei provato, afou tha mporouse apla oi apopseis mou na sympiptoun me to hammer kai oxi aparaita to hammer na tis diamorfwnei.

Telos, exw varethei na se akouw na les se opoion de goustarei afta pou goustareis oti einai "kathodigoumenos" apo tin kakia mousiki viomixania.

Logw eleipsis epixeirimatwn symfwna me ta opoia tha mporouses na apodeikseis oti i apopsi sou tha eprepe na einai apopsi twn ypoloipwn apofasizeis oti to na "afypniseis" tous koimismenous kakomoirous metallades tha se kanei more credible. E den se kanei.



sorry quotarisa to diko mou kai bariemai na c/p again...
ehm basika dude. DEN ekfrazei to diko mou eidos ???? akroatwn kapoios pou bazei 6/10 sto DARE. :P ekane akribws oti kanane stous peosgenesis.

kat'arxin gia na ekfrazei to eidos sou kapoios einai anagkaio na symfwnei se kathe disko pou sou aresei? Giati afto apla den yparxei.

episis ekane to idio me tous pyogenesis? Diladi eipe "oi Dare einai AOR, skata sta moutra tous?"


esy to briskeis aristourghma, e tespa.... :P kai o kisetzek einai kai megalo pozeri me thn kakia ennoia... dioti yparxei kai auth.

ntaks afto den to epiasa alla an thewreis oti prepei na mou eksigiseis please do so.

[Kain]

Νεκροπεθαμένε σ'αγαπώ.

[necropethamenos]

goutsou goutsou

[VirusXI]

afhste tis agapes gia to agamies forum, otan ginei =P

[Kain]

Παρακαλώ να είμαι mod.

[Deggial]

Δε φταίει το περιοδικό αν κάποιοι αναγνώστες είναι πρόβατα, το ίδιο πρόβατα θα παραμείνουν κι αν διάβαζαν οποιοδήποτε άλλο έντυπο, οποιουδήποτε άλλου χώρου. Κι αν το περιοδικό εξυμνούσε τα συγκροτήματα που ο ρόκαβλος (ή ο κάθε ρόκαβλος) ήθελε, πάλι θα παράμεναν πρόβατα.

Είναι θέμα ελλειπούς κριτικής σκέψης και φόβου απομόνωσης απ'το κοινωνικό σύνολο, πολύ απλά δεν έχουν τα προσόντα να κατανοήσουν σωστά το περιεχόμενο ενός εντύπου, να το επεξεργαστούν και να αποφασίσουν για τον εαυτό τους. Όπως και να αλλάξουν τα βαθμολογικά κριτήρια του Hammer, η κατάσταση τους θα παραμείνει η ίδια.

Μπορείς να κατηγορήσεις ένα περιοδικό για προπαγανδισμό, για μονόπλευρη πληροφόρηση, για εξυπηρέτηση συμφερόντων, όλα αυτά μπορώ να τα καταλάβω. Αλλά σε καμία περίπτωση δε κάνει τους αναγνώστες πρόβατα. Ήταν ήδη πρόβατα που βρήκαν στο περιοδικό ένα χώρο να βοσκήσουν.

Και σε καμία περίπτωση δε μπορείς να κατηγορήσεις ένα περιοδικό για μεμονωμένες κριτικές, καθώς κάτι τέτοιο απλώς δηλώνει την διαφορετική άποψη του συντάκτη. Σαφώς μπορείς να το κατηγορήσεις αν γίνεται κάτι συστηματικά εναντίον ενός συγκροτήματος (από διαφορετικούς συντάκτες) ή ενός μουσικού είδους.

[rockavlon]

ntaks greekleash - einai .. mia leksh me 2 hh to ena san h to allo san xxx ? pws that thn egrafes ? sod off loipon. leptomeries..

ntaks en telei either you get it or you don't. HAPPY VELVET REVOLVING. egw tha parw starwood pantws. :P

na se rwthsw kati re nekropethamene ?
les oti de symfwneis me to xamma. i kati tetoio katalabainw. sthn telikh, den mou kanete xarh emena an akousete kati pgio pgiotiko.

to gramma sto xammer pou toso koroideuetai fwtografizei anagnwstes hammer. thn pleiopshfeia. mpafadakia, pseutorebeloi, me poly facial hair, uperbra synhthws of both sexxes ! mexri 23 synhthws. e akoune stool.

plaka plaka oi polyagaphmenoi sas lamb of god paizoun ekei pou epaiksan oi sfaxton.... alla oute 150 eishthria den exoun poulhsei so far :P xm.

[necropethamenos]

ntaks greekleash - einai .. mia leksh me 2 hh to ena san h to allo san xxx ? pws that thn egrafes ? sod off loipon. leptomeries..

yparxoun lekseis me 2 hh? ti les? kati den katalava? I dont get it.


ntaks en telei either you get it or you don't. HAPPY VELVET REVOLVING. egw tha parw starwood pantws. :P

me geia.


na se rwthsw kati re nekropethamene ?

AME!


les oti de symfwneis me to xamma. i kati tetoio katalabainw. sthn telikh, den mou kanete xarh emena an akousete kati pgio pgiotiko.

nai alla to thema den einai afto, to thema einai oti eisai off topic otan prospatheis na me parousiaseis san provato. apefyges to pragmatiko thema. try again.


to gramma sto xammer pou toso koroideuetai fwtografizei anagnwstes hammer. thn pleiopshfeia. mpafadakia, pseutorebeloi, me poly facial hair, uperbra synhthws of both sexxes ! mexri 23 synhthws. e akoune stool.

fysika. episis oi mavroi exoun mikrotero egkefalo kai pio dynata podia. oi ellines exoun gennithei gia megala pragmata. oloi oi galloi einai vrwmiarides. kai oloi oi germanoi einai organwmenoi kai xwris synaisthimata.

Arketa ratsistiko gia na sou aresei?


plaka plaka oi polyagaphmenoi sas lamb of god paizoun ekei pou epaiksan oi sfaxton.... alla oute 150 eishthria den exoun poulhsei so far :P xm.

Ah. Fovero. Ara den einai kali mpanta. Mono oi saxon einai kali mpanta. Ksereis giati? Giati poulisan perissotera eisitiria.

Thes na valoume ekei pou paiksan oi saxon na paiksoun oi nsync na sou pw poso tha poulisei? Tha eksakoloutheis na to thewreis kritirio tote?

[rockavlon]

ehm. koita oi log, den nomizw na skisoun omws setlist kqai na paizoun paraggelies.. an kai to suzy hold on de mou to paikse o poustos o biffys...

[necropethamenos]

ehm. koita oi log, den nomizw na skisoun omws setlist kqai na paizoun paraggelies.. an kai to suzy hold on de mou to paikse o poustos o biffys...

a) den to ksereis

b) sigoura exoun ligotera kommatia na paiksoun giati exoun mikroteri diskografia

c) afto tous kanei kaki mpanta? i oi saxon einai kali mpanta EPEIDI eskisan to setlist?

i moni pragmatikotita einai oti oi saxon mporoun kai to kanoun afto epeidi einai 800 etwn kai kseroun pia ti diskografia tous by heart.

den einai kako, apla den tous kanei kat'anagkin kalyterous.

[Carcass_]

Pali oi Saxon skisane to setlist ? Kai sto Wacken ta idia kanane.

Kai egw ton agapaw ton nekropethameno.

Ti theikh ataka kai auth vre Rockavle, "akouste kati poio poiotiko ". Ti einai to " poio poiotiko " gia thn psuxosunthesh tou kathenos alitheia ?

[rockavlon]

edw ksanagyrname sto oti an exeis psyxosynthesh anawmalou mporei kai na th briskeis me grind/noise. kai i necrofilia symbainei... alla den prepei na thn ektheiazoume kiolas :P

[Carcass_]

den exw psuxosunthesh anwmalou, mporoun na sto epivevaiwsoun kai atoma pou me kseroun apo edw mesa, alla thn vriskw kai me death/grindcore. Dld esu kathgorhopoieis to pws einai oi anthrwpoi mesa tous me vash thn mousikh pou akoune ?
Ektos an eisai kai psyxologos syn ths allhs.
Ektos kai an einai h apopsh sou, h opoia einai lanthasmenh.

[Carcass_]

dld me thn logikh sou , epeidh thn vriskw to idio kai me Cryptopsy kai me Aerosmith kai me Rush kai me Molly Hatchet kai me Vital Remains, e prepei na eimai multiple personality telika... Nekropethamene, dexesai na kanoume sessions ?

[The_Painless]

Ο Carcass_ έχει ψυχοσύνθεση ανώμαλου.

Άτομο που τον ξέρει από εδώ μέσα.







































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[Carcass_]

Valtos, valtos. Me katapolemaei h klika ths true metal psuxosuntheshs. Auta einai provokatsia. TA KSEROUME TA PISTEUW SAS KURIA KATERINA !

[rockavlon]

ti na sw pw. ki osa goustarw akraia i einai thrashies. i apo kai kai pera einai xAbaledation. obligatorysk tortyr px. xynoun agria..ki asystola..

[Carcass_]

Dld eisai kai esu trofimos apo to Dafni, e ? :)

[Kveldssanger]

Όχι ρε, μέχρι το thrash και τα χαβαλεδιάρικα αντέχουν οι λογικοί άνθρωποι.. Ε από εκεί και πέρα έχεις το πρόβλημα...

[Carcass_]

ouf...pes to etsi, giati eixa arxisei na anushxw oti uparxoun kai alloi anwmaloi san emena." Zoume enamesa sas ".

[Kveldssanger]

Πάντως μη νιώθεις μόνος... Είμαστε και εμείς εδώ... Υπάρχουν και άλλα ανώμαλα πρόβατα γύρω σου...

[rockavlon]

abnormal sheep - guilded cunts - filthy cradles, kok, allo ena aristourghma. o nai. dwse cof sto lao na psof

[Joey_Allen]

Palioalhth rockavlon ti les gia tous Lamb of God?Ypetheoi mexri ton perasmeno mhna den tous hksere kanenas twra ksafnika edelws e les kai yparxei ligo ksafnika tous ma8ane oloi.Paromoia istoria me Pain of Salvation ktl ktl ktl

[freak brother]

Palioalhth rockavlon ti les gia tous Lamb of God?Ypetheoi mexri ton perasmeno mhna den tous hksere kanenas twra ksafnika edelws e les kai yparxei ligo ksafnika tous ma8ane oloi.Paromoia istoria me Pain of Salvation ktl ktl ktl
pragmatika eisai 32 xronwn den exeis tpt kalutero na asxolhtheis?

[Gabriel]

Oi Lamb of God gamane de pa na poylhsoyn kai 5 eishthria anti gia 150.

[Gabriel]

Ypetheoi mexri ton perasmeno mhna den tous hksere kanenas twra ksafnika edelws e les kai yparxei ligo ksafnika tous ma8ane oloil


Ypetheoi mexri ton perasmeno mhna den tous hksere kanenas twra ksafnika edelws e les kai yparxei ligo ksafnika tous ma8ane oloil

Tipota se stiksh, btw, gia mena poy eimai omologoymenos argos?

[VirusXI]

[quote="Joey_Allen":3tf88mbt]Palioalhth rockavlon ti les gia tous Lamb of God?Ypetheoi mexri ton perasmeno mhna den tous hksere kanenas twra ksafnika edelws e les kai yparxei ligo ksafnika tous ma8ane oloi.Paromoia istoria me Pain of Salvation ktl ktl ktl
pragmatika eisai 32 xronwn den exeis tpt kalutero na asxolhtheis?[/quote:3tf88mbt]

pragmatika einai 32 xronwn vlakas.

[Joey_Allen]

kalytera vlakas para stoneriko provato kai fasistas na kleidwnw topic twn allwn otan lene anti8eth apopsh apo mena.Sta 32 mou exw ta arxidia akoma na psaxnomai na riskarw stis agores mou kai na xw akoma kai patates sth disko8hkh mou toulaxiston den kanw plousia thn sound and vision me tis agores mou opws esy.Alh8eia esy agorazeis h thn exeis vrei me mp3?A to epomeno cd pou 8a pareis 8a nai to neo rhapsody?apla rwtaw epeidh mphke diskos tou mhna exe to sta ypopshn sou.

[VirusXI]

kalytera vlakas para stoneriko provato

hahaha arxika katalave epitelous pws den akouw mono stoner. o stoneras, o pozeras, o poweras, o deathas k.o.k. de gamies8e me tis tampeles sas, epeidh eisai gkagka kai akous mono 1 eidos de shmainei pws einai oloi to idio ka8ysterhmenoi.


kai fasistas na kleidwnw topic twn allwn otan lene anti8eth apopsh apo mena.

a? mias pou th mpetakses, tekmhriwse th kiolas.


Sta 32 mou exw ta arxidia akoma na psaxnomai na riskarw stis agores mou kai na xw akoma kai patates sth disko8hkh mou toulaxiston den kanw plousia thn sound and vision me tis agores mou opws esy.Alh8eia esy agorazeis h thn exeis vrei me mp3?A to epomeno cd pou 8a pareis 8a nai to neo rhapsody?apla rwtaw epeidh mphke diskos tou mhna exe to sta ypopshn sou.

MA TI VLAKAS EISAI. Diavazeis ti grafoun oi alloi? As apanthsw sth ka8e asxeth malakia pou petas mias pou variemai.
Exw na parw sinti ths sound n vision polu kairo pragmatika. Oi Rhapsody paizei na aresoune pio poly esena, egw pantws tous sixainomai. Ehm kai gw exw patates sth disko8hkh mou, pou kollaei ayto?
Afou prospa8hsa na sou apanthsw sayta pou les, as rwthsw kai gw.
Pou ksereis ti agorazw? Pou ksereis oti den exw patates sth disko8hkh mou (mpoingk TO asxeto) Pws sou katevainoun ola ayta? Ti pineis?
Ksafnika oloi eginan Lamp Of God kai Rhapsody fans... pou ta sthrizeis ayta pou les?
Eisai vlakas?

[freak brother]

[quote=Joey_Allen]kalytera vlakas para stoneriko provato

hahaha arxika katalave epitelous pws den akouw mono stoner. o stoneras, o pozeras, o poweras, o deathas k.o.k. de gamies8e me tis tampeles sas, epeidh eisai gkagka kai akous mono 1 eidos de shmainei pws einai oloi to idio ka8ysterhmenoi.


kai fasistas na kleidwnw topic twn allwn otan lene anti8eth apopsh apo mena.

a? mias pou th mpetakses, tekmhriwse th kiolas.


Sta 32 mou exw ta arxidia akoma na psaxnomai na riskarw stis agores mou kai na xw akoma kai patates sth disko8hkh mou toulaxiston den kanw plousia thn sound and vision me tis agores mou opws esy.Alh8eia esy agorazeis h thn exeis vrei me mp3?A to epomeno cd pou 8a pareis 8a nai to neo rhapsody?apla rwtaw epeidh mphke diskos tou mhna exe to sta ypopshn sou.

MA TI VLAKAS EISAI. Diavazeis ti grafoun oi alloi? As apanthsw sth ka8e asxeth malakia pou petas mias pou variemai.
Exw na parw sinti ths sound n vision polu kairo pragmatika. Oi Rhapsody paizei na aresoune pio poly esena, egw pantws tous sixainomai. Ehm kai gw exw patates sth disko8hkh mou, pou kollaei ayto?
Afou prospa8hsa na sou apanthsw sayta pou les, as rwthsw kai gw.
Pou ksereis ti agorazw? Pou ksereis oti den exw patates sth disko8hkh mou (mpoingk TO asxeto) Pws sou katevainoun ola ayta? Ti pineis?
Ksafnika oloi eginan Lamp Of God kai Rhapsody fans... pou ta sthrizeis ayta pou les?
Eisai vlakas?[/quote:2zip1fk9]
egw pantws xerw oti o allen kanei kouventa me ton eauto tou ousiastika kai oti kai na tou les autos tha pei to diko tou.. skepsou kai thn hlikia tou ..LOL
auto opote den exei nohma na tou apantate..

[Gabriel]

kalytera vlakas para stoneriko provato

hahaha arxika katalave epitelous pws den akouw mono stoner. o stoneras, o pozeras, o poweras, o deathas k.o.k. de gamies8e me tis tampeles sas, epeidh eisai gkagka kai akous mono 1 eidos de shmainei pws einai oloi to idio ka8ysterhmenoi.


Ante epiteloys gamw th falaina!!! Ayto, gamwto, ayto! :evil:

[Amnesiac.]

stin arxi neyriaza me ilithies apopseis styl joey allen. meta arxisan na mou fainontai adiafores. epeita asteies. pleon xairomai na diavazw ayta pou grafei.

etsi re, nasai 32 xronwn kai na vasanizesai gia to ti akoun oi alloi kai gia ta skata pou yparxoun stin agora. mi swseis kai apolayseis oute lepto tis mousikis pou yparxei out there. ayto sou aksizei.

[rockavlon]

bale ena laki.... e kai mia diplh me souvlaki .... asxeto alla MH MOU PEITE OTI TO RHAPSODY BGHKE DISKOS TOU MHNA ???????????????????!!!! ELEOS !

[Carcass_]

Re pousth , den mporei, sigoura tha to kanei gia plaka.
Den mporw na fantastw ena atomo 32 xronwn pou h monh tou anushxia einai ta periodika kai ta cd. Den mporei na uparxei toso gia ton poutso atomo. Den mporei na uparxei atomaki toso vlammeno pou na krinei tous upoloipous me vash to ti akoune kai na tous thn leei me vash tou ti pisteuei oti exoun sthn diskothikh tous.
Den mporei na uparxei toso mh ekseligmeno eidos pithikou pou na thn leei emmesa ston kosmo me to oti ena group htan anuparkto kai ksafnika oloi tous emathan.
en oligeis DEN MPOREI NA UPARKSEI TOSOS MEGALO VLAKAS STHN FUSH. EINAI ANUPARTKO FAINOMENO . &-
Apla mas kanei plaka kai tsimpisame oloi san vlakes. tipota parapanw.

[rockavlon]

pst. mate. mousiko forum einai ti tha theles na sou pei gia pleksimo ? mostly mosuiko einai. exei ki ena off topic.

[Carcass_]

akurh apanthsh. To oti einai mousiko forum den exei na kanei me to an einai vlakas h oxi. Pou den einai dld, apla mas douleuei kai emeis psarwnoume. Eimai sigouros pws ola ta parapanw ta leei ston xavale kai emeis apla den piasame to nohma.

[VirusXI]

plaka exei, variomaste eksallou.

[freak brother]

Re pousth , den mporei, sigoura tha to kanei gia plaka.
Den mporw na fantastw ena atomo 32 xronwn pou h monh tou anushxia einai ta periodika kai ta cd. Den mporei na uparxei toso gia ton poutso atomo. Den mporei na uparxei atomaki toso vlammeno pou na krinei tous upoloipous me vash to ti akoune kai na tous thn leei me vash tou ti pisteuei oti exoun sthn diskothikh tous.
Den mporei na uparxei toso mh ekseligmeno eidos pithikou pou na thn leei emmesa ston kosmo me to oti ena group htan anuparkto kai ksafnika oloi tous emathan.
en oligeis DEN MPOREI NA UPARKSEI TOSOS MEGALO VLAKAS STHN FUSH. EINAI ANUPARTKO FAINOMENO . &-
Apla mas kanei plaka kai tsimpisame oloi san vlakes. tipota parapanw.

[Joey_Allen]

Re carcas apadhse mou ligo se kati:Poses synavlies exoune ginei sthn Ellada tou sygkekrimenou eidous pou opws leei o fasistas ayto mono akouw.Ayto apadhse mou.
A fasista akouw arketa eidh an psaxeis ta post mou to exw anaferei.
Epishs carcass sto xanapa oti den borw th monoplevrh enhmerwsh kai prepei epitelous sthn Ellada na papsei to aor/poser na 8ewreitai flwriko kako einai ayto?Mia synavlia exei ginei olh kai olh kai twra pou kleisthkane oi Bonfire me support Tyketto oi hammeristes xekinhsane hdh(Tyketto oi aor xekwliarhdes)
Sou eipa opios leei alh8eies sthn Ellada einai vlakas.

[Witchkiller]

Mia synavlia exei ginei olh kai olh kai twra pou kleisthkane oi Bonfire me support Tyketto oi hammeristes xekinhsane hdh(Tyketto oi aor xekwliarhdes)
Sou eipa opios leei alh8eies sthn Ellada einai vlakas.

Edw de mporw para na symfwnisw.Yparxei mia tash sto Hammer (gia na mi pw grammh) ta palia pozeradika sygkrothmata n'antimetwpizontai me poly thapsimo kai eirwniko yfaki.

[Carcass_]

To oti oi sunaulies einai genikotera provlhmatikes sthn Ellada, den diafwnw.
Opws den tha diafwnisw me to gegonos oti kai ena meros ths dianomhs einai provlhmatikh sthn Ellada opws epishs kai gia to gegonos oti uparxei sugkekrimenh proothish apo ton metalliko tupo.
Alla ta parapanw den exoun oudemia sxesh me ayta pou lew egw sta posts mou. Oudepote apanthsa gia auta. Outws h allos einai gnwsta stous perissoterous.
To oti se krazw einai gia ton logo pou se krazoun oloi. To provlhmatiko den einai h antitheth apopsh profanws, alla pws thn ekfrazeis.
Otan loipon sumperiferesai san fasistas ( opws me les dld ), katariptwntas opoiadhpote antitheth apopsh, krinwntas tous allous apo ta akousmata tous ( hmarton ) kai ola osa gia ta opoia se krazoun oloi, e profanws katalavaineis kai pia einai h diafora.
Ksanadiavase ta posts sou kai tha katalaveis akrivws ti ennow.

[Carcass_]

As egrafes oti egrafes sto ufos tou parapanw sou post. Sigoura tote tha ginotan suzhthsh mallon kai oxi flame.
Enigouei.

[Deggial]

Re carcas apadhse mou ligo se kati:Poses synavlies exoune ginei sthn Ellada tou sygkekrimenou eidous pou opws leei o fasistas ayto mono akouw.Ayto apadhse mou.
Epishs carcass sto xanapa oti den borw th monoplevrh enhmerwsh kai prepei epitelous sthn Ellada na papsei to aor/poser na 8ewreitai flwriko kako einai ayto?Mia synavlia exei ginei olh kai olh kai twra pou kleisthkane oi Bonfire me support Tyketto oi hammeristes xekinhsane hdh(Tyketto oi aor xekwliarhdes)
Sou eipa opios leei alh8eies sthn Ellada einai vlakas.

Σύμφωνοι. Αλλά είναι ανάγκη να βάζεις τη ταμπέλα του προβάτου, Hammer-oπαδού και δε ξέρω'γω τι άλλο σ'όποιον έχει διαφορετικά μουσικά γούστα απ'τα δικά σου; Ή σ'όποιον θεωρεί ως metal κι άλλα συγκροτήματα;

Κι ο χαρακτηρισμός του φασίστα, αν πηγαίνει στον VirusXI, δεν ανταποκρίνεται στη πραγματικότητα.

[rockavlon]

opa faccio den einai to demati ? i omada ? :P ? ara pantou mporeis na ton kollhseis... :P

[freak brother]

Re carcas apadhse mou ligo se kati:Poses synavlies exoune ginei sthn Ellada tou sygkekrimenou eidous pou opws leei o fasistas ayto mono akouw.Ayto apadhse mou.
A fasista akouw arketa eidh an psaxeis ta post mou to exw anaferei.
Epishs carcass sto xanapa oti den borw th monoplevrh enhmerwsh kai prepei epitelous sthn Ellada na papsei to aor/poser na 8ewreitai flwriko kako einai ayto?Mia synavlia exei ginei olh kai olh kai twra pou kleisthkane oi Bonfire me support Tyketto oi hammeristes xekinhsane hdh(Tyketto oi aor xekwliarhdes)
Sou eipa opios leei alh8eies sthn Ellada einai vlakas.

alaxe xwra na mporeis eleuthera na vlepeis pozer groupares kai mh mas prizeis ta @@ :D

[rockavlon]

ehm plaka plaka :P i ellada san xwra ok einai - alla kai oi ellhnes-- oops amerikanoi htela na pw, pou den kseroun agglika einai xalhdes kai airheads kathws kai oi kathe loghs oikonomikoi metanastes. SPEAK GREEK OR DIE RE MOONIA !!!mhn ftiaxnete ghetto...

[Joey_Allen]

Epeidh vlepw oti oi epi8eseis edw mesa enantion mou synexizodai anaitia as parw ligo ta pragmata apo thn arxh mpas kai kapios arxisei na katanoei ayta pou grafw.
Den me enoxlei na akouei o ka8enas oti 8elei.Me enoxlei omws na vlepw apopseis atomwn oi opioi den ezhsan thn epoxh telh 80s arxes 90s na lene oti “to aor kai to glam einai h droph ths mousikhs”.Me enoxlei to gegonos na vlepw sto post tou Malmsteen na akougetai h mhdenistihkh apopsh oti”mono o Soto re apo kei kai pera le mpoul”.Dhladh o Turner epeidh kapioi dhmosiografoi edw sthn Ellada den ton pane aytomata shmainei oti den einai gamatos?Epeidh dietelese sthn emporikh fash twn Rainbow shmainei oti rixnetai sthn pyra?O Goran Edman ektos apo 2-3 atoma den eida na anaferetai apo kanenan.Pozeras kai aytos etsi?
Den kanw kanenos eidous khrygma apla 8elw na rwthsw olous esas pou me kathgoreite ws ierokhryka:Pws pagiw8hke h adilhpsh edw sthn Ellada oti to glam einai flwrikh mousikh?Pioi einai aytoi oi opioi prwtoeirwneythkan kai synexizoun fysika na eirwnevodai to sygkekrimeno eidos?Eimai egw apolytos otan lew thn apopsh mou gia tous Nevermore px oti einai metrioi kai den einai apolytoi oloi aytoi pou otan akoune th leksh Poison px to prwto pragma pou skeftodai einai “ela mwre malakes pozerades”.Esy witchkiller mporeis na mou apadhseis mias kai akous glam poios pagiwse thn adilhpsh ayth(se rwtaw de se eirwnevomai).Esy carcass mias pou aneferes to germaniko rock hard ws sovaro periodiko(symfwnw apolyta) mporeis na mou apadhseis sthn idia erwthsh?Necropethamene me rwthses “pios eisai esy o 8eos pou 8a valeis ti einai oria sto ti einai metal kai ti oxi” kai me th seira mou se rwtaw “pios einai aytos pou 8a valei oria sto ti einai flwriko kai ti oxi”?Pios einai aytos pou 8a valei oria sto pios einai kalos tragoudisths kai pios oxi?
Krinoume dld enan tragoudisth apo to gegonos se pia group exei symmetasxei h ton krinoume me vash ta aytia mas?gia na xerw dld.Dhladh epeidh se kapion aresei to doom kai tou arese to Krux 8a paei na agorasei mono tous diskous me Leven tou Malmsteen e?Wraia adilhpsh.
Witchkiller gia pes mou mias kai akous glam einai ntroph ths mousikhs?Den lew oti to eipes esy apla esy katalavaineis mias kai akous to eidos ayto kai den perimenw apo ton anwtero Lackey ton koultouriarh pou akouei Nevermore kai tous prwtotypous panw apo ola Watchtower na mou apadhsei.Esy symfwneis me thn adilhpsh ayth?Mhpws giati efere kosmo sto rock?Mhpws giati gia plaka ta album ayta ftanane sto noumero ena aneksarthtws eidous kai kontrarane sta isa thn pop?Mhpws giati kapies syn8eseis grapsane istoria kai synexizoun na tragoudiountai akoma(px Love Bites-Def Leppard,Every Rose has its Thorn-Poison ktl).As mou apadhsei kapios loipon me vash pia krithria 8ewrei ena group kalo Me vash mono ta aytia tou?Dld necropethamene otan xekinhses na akous mousikh amesws katalaves oti oi tade einai gamw ta group esy pote den epiases kapio periodiko sta xeria sou.
Ayto loipon pou eipa kai me kathgorhse o Virus ws profitako tou rock on einai oti den eida pou8ena to rock on na leei “Tyketto oi aor xekwliarhdes”.Toulaxiston witchkiller esy me to paradeigma pou sou fernw katalaves twra?Gia ayto protimw to rock on otan einai na agorasw kapio periodiko dioti DEN VRISKEI THN EYKOLH LYSH NA PETAEI TOUS XAMHLOUS VA8MOUS STO AOR/GLAM KAI NA EIRWNEVETAI.Apo thn allh plevra otan 8a valei kapion xamhlo va8mo sto sygkekrimeno eidos den shmainei oti 8a arxisw na to vrizw giati exei deixei oti den eirwnevetai enw to hammer exei dwsei dikaiwmata kai einai epomeno kapios na nai pio kaxypoptos.
Epeidh loipon egw proswpika den 8elw na koroidevw ton eayto mou kai lew pragmata ta opia isxyan kai isxyoun asxeta an kapioi pane na perasoun tous Mastodon ws tous neous metal 8eous as mou apadhsete sta parakatw erwthmata:
1.Pios hksere tous Nevermore prin to hammer apo8ewsei to politics.Den to lew ayto gia na pw oti egw eimai psagmenos alla as 8ymh8oume ti ysteria eixe piasei ton kosmo tote me thn kalyetrh mpada tou pagkosmiou power metal(axaxaxaxax).To idio isxyei kai gia tous Iced Earth gia to Dark Saga tous Tool prin to lateralus pios eixe parei prefa to 89(oxi apo sas genika se pagkosmio epipedo) tous Faith No More pou twra 8ymh8hkan kapioi meta apo 15 xronia oti einai 8eoi ktl ktl.Paradeigmata polla.Oxi oti egw katalava tpt pou tous akousa metries mpades oles tous.
2.8ewreite oloi sas magkia na xekinaei na akouei metal kapios apo tous Nightwish h apo tous Slayer h apo tous Hammerfall?Egw xekinhsa me Deep Purple kai Accept pantws den paw anapoda san ton kavoura..
3.Pia h sxesh tou hardcore me to metal.Epeidh oi mpaglamades aytoi arxisane na klevoune twra tous Bolt Thower ginane xafnika kai metallades?Exoune kamia sxesh oi hardcorades me klasiko heavy metal px me Accept?
4.Sto topic “gynaikeies fwnes sto metal” ektos apo 1-2 paradeigmata evlepa olo Anneke,Tarja ,Liv Kristine….E an ayto de dhlwnei katey8ynsh tote ti sto diaolo einai?H gynaikeia metal fwnh exei fovero parel8on pisw ths:Doro Jutta,Leather Leone,Ann Boleyn.Pios omws epi8ymei na psaxtei panw se 80s grafikothtes etsi?
5.Mas peirazei otan ena group paizei metal dekaetias 80 kai den mas peirazei otan o ka8e malakas Souhdos shkwnei mia ki8ara kai kataklevei ta osa epaixan 30 xronia prin oi Ufo kai oi Mountain?PX Spiritual Beggars The Quill kai ena swro alloi.
6.To forum grafei metal discussion.Den grafei oute industrial oute hardcore discussion oute alternative.Gia pio logo loipon postaroun sto topic kai malista eirwnevodai atoma me tetoia nick h atoma pou den exoune dei ton Lande pote tous?Den 8a tane protimotero na ftiaxtei ena hardcore discussion?Atoma me nick amnesiac as pane na grapsoune sto no-metal afou den katexoune apo metal.
7.Epishs mhn ksexnate oloi eseis pou dhlwnete mia 10etia mikroteroi mou oti otan to hammer xekinouse thn nevermoropoihsh tou hsastan 14-15 xronwn(1997).Etsi pios mou leei emena oti twra pou to paizete anwteroi tote den to agorazate?Pios mou leei emena oti an to hammer opws sas eprhze ta arxidia me to Reign in Blood den sas ta eprhze me to Escape twn Journey h me to 4 twn Foreigner ayth th stigmh den 8a apo8ewnate to aor th stigmh pou stis gynaikeies metal fwnes oloi (sxedon) postarate tragoudistries apo to 94 kai meta?
8.Gia na teleiwnw loipon den 8ewrw to glam/aor ws to kalytero eidos mousikhs.To 8ewrw omws san ena timio eidos opou kapios aksizei na to psaxei kai na xefygei apo th stereotyph adilhpsh tou flwrikou pou kapioi tou exoune perasei.Sthn telikh necropethamene olio mas apo kapio periodiko arxisame kai safws periodiko me periodiko exei diafora px vlepeis to hammer na vgazei diskous tou mhna sygkekrimenou dianomea pou se ena mhna den 8a tous 8ymatai kaneis .Ara ti diafora exei ayto to periodiko me opiodhpote allo trendy periodiko pou prow8oun thn Kalomoira pou se 4-5 mhnes den 8a th xerei oute h mama ths?
9.Den einai ntroph na mporw na vriskw tous diskous tou tade agnwstou akraiou group kai na mhn mporw px na vrw to proswpiko ths fwnaras pou legetai Tony Harnell?Den einai ntroph ena swro groupares apo ton xwro tou melwdikou hard/heavy na 8ewroudai padelws agnwstes sthn Ellada epeidh kapioi malakes tous 8ewroune metrious(Kingdome Come).Den einai ntroph gia ton Ellhna opado apo klasiko metal na exei 8-9 group kai na agnoei px tous Gothic Knights?
10.(i promise the last).Necropethamene me eipes elitisth.Panw se ayto loipon pou eipa prin gia ton Ellhna metalla o ellhnas nomizei oti an mazepsei 4-5 sxhmata teleiwse apo to klasiko metal kai exei thn entypwsh pws an psaxtei me Neurosis h me Ved Buens Ende 8a deixei kai pio psagmenos.Pios einai loipon elitisths egw h h sthlh horror tou hammer pou diavazeis gia Isis px kai nomizeis oti exeis na kaneis me tipota 8eous makria apo ton “true” oxlo?Ftasame sto shmeio sthn Ellada na xwristoume se 2 kommatia kai na 8ewroumaste oloi emeis pou goustaroume klasiko heavy aor/glam kai genikotera melwdikous diskous ws elite apo kapious h ws psagmenoi apo kapious allous th stigmh pou paei o allos pairnei to Summerian Daemons px kai vgainei apo to diskadiko kai fouskwnei perhfana san kokoraki les kai phre ton apolyto metal disko!Mhn trela8oume to glam sthn Ellada safws einai katadiwkomeno eidos.An psaxtoume olio ligo parapanw safws kai ayto 8a papsei na isxyei.To deixnei allwste kati pou xanagrapsa oti ola ta xronia 1 synavlia tetoiou eidous egine.
Kapou edw eftase to telos.Osoi grafete sta arxidia sas ton entypo ellhniko kai panw apo ola e aneksarthto metal typo kala kanete osoi synexizete na kryveste pisw apo to daxtylo sas agnowntas groupares (pou apo8ewnoun mono oi malakes oi Iapwnes etsi mhn to ksexname malakes kai aytoi) synexiste na akoute ta kakektypa twn Pink Floyd.
Virus gia na se dieykolynw gia na mhn psaxneis akouw klasiko heavy,progressive(oxi gia na to paixw psagmenos giati mou aresei alla den einai prwtotypo alloi ta paixane nwritera) klasiko kai hard rock poser(mhn ksexname tous hammerikous orous0 kai fusion.Epishs to topic tou Wotan den to kleidwsa egw kai de se exw die edw mesa na milas gia tipota allo plhn doom/stoner.
A kai Buddy Lackey na mhn to ksexasw:Gia na deis poso flwros eimai dld oxi tipota allo se sygkrish me sena ton psagmeno metalla pou sta post tou den exei anaferei oute ena group pou na mhn to apo8ewnei to hammer mou aresei poly kai o Bryan Adams periodou 80-84(mexri to Reckless) xereis ekinos o Kanados flwros pou elege to Everything I do.Ta prwta album tou 8ewroudai kai einai vivloi gia to melwdiko rock kai eyxomai kapioi pou me koroidevoun twra kapote na katsoun na ton akousoun pio prosextika.

James de Allenio

PS:Elpizw ayth th fora na egina pio katanohtos se kapious pou me kathgoroun oti milaw gia provata etsi genikologa kai aorista.Psychotron den exw kati mazi sou oute me sena oute me kanenan edw mesa eseis omws xekinhsate na eirwneveste.Sou eyxomai na pas na deis pws gamane oi aor xekwliarhdes stis 14 Noemvrh se sxesh me allous pou vazoune topic oi Orphaned Land sthn Ellada.Poiothta.Kata ta alla egw eimai o elitisths.
PS1:Ade virus kane ayto pou prepei rixe mou ban na xarei o/h the painless fainetai thn/ton peirazoun ayta pou lew 8a nai ths idias synomotaksias me Lackey.
PS2:Carcass epeidh diavazeis ayta pou se symferoun pws to eipe na deis ekeino o Buddy Lackey?"Se lypamai pou akous Planet X".Kata ta alla egw pali eimai o apolytos.

[freak brother]

Epeidh vlepw oti oi epi8eseis edw mesa enantion mou synexizodai anaitia as parw ligo ta pragmata apo thn arxh mpas kai kapios arxisei na katanoei ayta pou grafw.
Den me enoxlei na akouei o ka8enas oti 8elei.Me enoxlei omws na vlepw apopseis atomwn oi opioi den ezhsan thn epoxh telh 80s arxes 90s na lene oti “to aor kai to glam einai h droph ths mousikhs”.Me enoxlei to gegonos na vlepw sto post tou Malmsteen na akougetai h mhdenistihkh apopsh oti”mono o Soto re apo kei kai pera le mpoul”.Dhladh o Turner epeidh kapioi dhmosiografoi edw sthn Ellada den ton pane aytomata shmainei oti den einai gamatos?Epeidh dietelese sthn emporikh fash twn Rainbow shmainei oti rixnetai sthn pyra?O Goran Edman ektos apo 2-3 atoma den eida na anaferetai apo kanenan.Pozeras kai aytos etsi?
Den kanw kanenos eidous khrygma apla 8elw na rwthsw olous esas pou me kathgoreite ws ierokhryka:Pws pagiw8hke h adilhpsh edw sthn Ellada oti to glam einai flwrikh mousikh?Pioi einai aytoi oi opioi prwtoeirwneythkan kai synexizoun fysika na eirwnevodai to sygkekrimeno eidos?Eimai egw apolytos otan lew thn apopsh mou gia tous Nevermore px oti einai metrioi kai den einai apolytoi oloi aytoi pou otan akoune th leksh Poison px to prwto pragma pou skeftodai einai “ela mwre malakes pozerades”.Esy witchkiller mporeis na mou apadhseis mias kai akous glam poios pagiwse thn adilhpsh ayth(se rwtaw de se eirwnevomai).Esy carcass mias pou aneferes to germaniko rock hard ws sovaro periodiko(symfwnw apolyta) mporeis na mou apadhseis sthn idia erwthsh?Necropethamene me rwthses “pios eisai esy o 8eos pou 8a valeis ti einai oria sto ti einai metal kai ti oxi” kai me th seira mou se rwtaw “pios einai aytos pou 8a valei oria sto ti einai flwriko kai ti oxi”?Pios einai aytos pou 8a valei oria sto pios einai kalos tragoudisths kai pios oxi?
Krinoume dld enan tragoudisth apo to gegonos se pia group exei symmetasxei h ton krinoume me vash ta aytia mas?gia na xerw dld.Dhladh epeidh se kapion aresei to doom kai tou arese to Krux 8a paei na agorasei mono tous diskous me Leven tou Malmsteen e?Wraia adilhpsh.
Witchkiller gia pes mou mias kai akous glam einai ntroph ths mousikhs?Den lew oti to eipes esy apla esy katalavaineis mias kai akous to eidos ayto kai den perimenw apo ton anwtero Lackey ton koultouriarh pou akouei Nevermore kai tous prwtotypous panw apo ola Watchtower na mou apadhsei.Esy symfwneis me thn adilhpsh ayth?Mhpws giati efere kosmo sto rock?Mhpws giati gia plaka ta album ayta ftanane sto noumero ena aneksarthtws eidous kai kontrarane sta isa thn pop?Mhpws giati kapies syn8eseis grapsane istoria kai synexizoun na tragoudiountai akoma(px Love Bites-Def Leppard,Every Rose has its Thorn-Poison ktl).As mou apadhsei kapios loipon me vash pia krithria 8ewrei ena group kalo Me vash mono ta aytia tou?Dld necropethamene otan xekinhses na akous mousikh amesws katalaves oti oi tade einai gamw ta group esy pote den epiases kapio periodiko sta xeria sou.
Ayto loipon pou eipa kai me kathgorhse o Virus ws profitako tou rock on einai oti den eida pou8ena to rock on na leei “Tyketto oi aor xekwliarhdes”.Toulaxiston witchkiller esy me to paradeigma pou sou fernw katalaves twra?Gia ayto protimw to rock on otan einai na agorasw kapio periodiko dioti DEN VRISKEI THN EYKOLH LYSH NA PETAEI TOUS XAMHLOUS VA8MOUS STO AOR/GLAM KAI NA EIRWNEVETAI.Apo thn allh plevra otan 8a valei kapion xamhlo va8mo sto sygkekrimeno eidos den shmainei oti 8a arxisw na to vrizw giati exei deixei oti den eirwnevetai enw to hammer exei dwsei dikaiwmata kai einai epomeno kapios na nai pio kaxypoptos.
Epeidh loipon egw proswpika den 8elw na koroidevw ton eayto mou kai lew pragmata ta opia isxyan kai isxyoun asxeta an kapioi pane na perasoun tous Mastodon ws tous neous metal 8eous as mou apadhsete sta parakatw erwthmata:
1.Pios hksere tous Nevermore prin to hammer apo8ewsei to politics.Den to lew ayto gia na pw oti egw eimai psagmenos alla as 8ymh8oume ti ysteria eixe piasei ton kosmo tote me thn kalyetrh mpada tou pagkosmiou power metal(axaxaxaxax).To idio isxyei kai gia tous Iced Earth gia to Dark Saga tous Tool prin to lateralus pios eixe parei prefa to 89(oxi apo sas genika se pagkosmio epipedo) tous Faith No More pou twra 8ymh8hkan kapioi meta apo 15 xronia oti einai 8eoi ktl ktl.Paradeigmata polla.Oxi oti egw katalava tpt pou tous akousa metries mpades oles tous.
2.8ewreite oloi sas magkia na xekinaei na akouei metal kapios apo tous Nightwish h apo tous Slayer h apo tous Hammerfall?Egw xekinhsa me Deep Purple kai Accept pantws den paw anapoda san ton kavoura..
3.Pia h sxesh tou hardcore me to metal.Epeidh oi mpaglamades aytoi arxisane na klevoune twra tous Bolt Thower ginane xafnika kai metallades?Exoune kamia sxesh oi hardcorades me klasiko heavy metal px me Accept?
4.Sto topic “gynaikeies fwnes sto metal” ektos apo 1-2 paradeigmata evlepa olo Anneke,Tarja ,Liv Kristine….E an ayto de dhlwnei katey8ynsh tote ti sto diaolo einai?H gynaikeia metal fwnh exei fovero parel8on pisw ths:Doro Jutta,Leather Leone,Ann Boleyn.Pios omws epi8ymei na psaxtei panw se 80s grafikothtes etsi?
5.Mas peirazei otan ena group paizei metal dekaetias 80 kai den mas peirazei otan o ka8e malakas Souhdos shkwnei mia ki8ara kai kataklevei ta osa epaixan 30 xronia prin oi Ufo kai oi Mountain?PX Spiritual Beggars The Quill kai ena swro alloi.
6.To forum grafei metal discussion.Den grafei oute industrial oute hardcore discussion oute alternative.Gia pio logo loipon postaroun sto topic kai malista eirwnevodai atoma me tetoia nick h atoma pou den exoune dei ton Lande pote tous?Den 8a tane protimotero na ftiaxtei ena hardcore discussion?Atoma me nick amnesiac as pane na grapsoune sto no-metal afou den katexoune apo metal.
7.Epishs mhn ksexnate oloi eseis pou dhlwnete mia 10etia mikroteroi mou oti otan to hammer xekinouse thn nevermoropoihsh tou hsastan 14-15 xronwn(1997).Etsi pios mou leei emena oti twra pou to paizete anwteroi tote den to agorazate?Pios mou leei emena oti an to hammer opws sas eprhze ta arxidia me to Reign in Blood den sas ta eprhze me to Escape twn Journey h me to 4 twn Foreigner ayth th stigmh den 8a apo8ewnate to aor th stigmh pou stis gynaikeies metal fwnes oloi (sxedon) postarate tragoudistries apo to 94 kai meta?
8.Gia na teleiwnw loipon den 8ewrw to glam/aor ws to kalytero eidos mousikhs.To 8ewrw omws san ena timio eidos opou kapios aksizei na to psaxei kai na xefygei apo th stereotyph adilhpsh tou flwrikou pou kapioi tou exoune perasei.Sthn telikh necropethamene olio mas apo kapio periodiko arxisame kai safws periodiko me periodiko exei diafora px vlepeis to hammer na vgazei diskous tou mhna sygkekrimenou dianomea pou se ena mhna den 8a tous 8ymatai kaneis .Ara ti diafora exei ayto to periodiko me opiodhpote allo trendy periodiko pou prow8oun thn Kalomoira pou se 4-5 mhnes den 8a th xerei oute h mama ths?
9.Den einai ntroph na mporw na vriskw tous diskous tou tade agnwstou akraiou group kai na mhn mporw px na vrw to proswpiko ths fwnaras pou legetai Tony Harnell?Den einai ntroph ena swro groupares apo ton xwro tou melwdikou hard/heavy na 8ewroudai padelws agnwstes sthn Ellada epeidh kapioi malakes tous 8ewroune metrious(Kingdome Come).Den einai ntroph gia ton Ellhna opado apo klasiko metal na exei 8-9 group kai na agnoei px tous Gothic Knights?
10.(i promise the last).Necropethamene me eipes elitisth.Panw se ayto loipon pou eipa prin gia ton Ellhna metalla o ellhnas nomizei oti an mazepsei 4-5 sxhmata teleiwse apo to klasiko metal kai exei thn entypwsh pws an psaxtei me Neurosis h me Ved Buens Ende 8a deixei kai pio psagmenos.Pios einai loipon elitisths egw h h sthlh horror tou hammer pou diavazeis gia Isis px kai nomizeis oti exeis na kaneis me tipota 8eous makria apo ton “true” oxlo?Ftasame sto shmeio sthn Ellada na xwristoume se 2 kommatia kai na 8ewroumaste oloi emeis pou goustaroume klasiko heavy aor/glam kai genikotera melwdikous diskous ws elite apo kapious h ws psagmenoi apo kapious allous th stigmh pou paei o allos pairnei to Summerian Daemons px kai vgainei apo to diskadiko kai fouskwnei perhfana san kokoraki les kai phre ton apolyto metal disko!Mhn trela8oume to glam sthn Ellada safws einai katadiwkomeno eidos.An psaxtoume olio ligo parapanw safws kai ayto 8a papsei na isxyei.To deixnei allwste kati pou xanagrapsa oti ola ta xronia 1 synavlia tetoiou eidous egine.
Kapou edw eftase to telos.Osoi grafete sta arxidia sas ton entypo ellhniko kai panw apo ola e aneksarthto metal typo kala kanete osoi synexizete na kryveste pisw apo to daxtylo sas agnowntas groupares (pou apo8ewnoun mono oi malakes oi Iapwnes etsi mhn to ksexname malakes kai aytoi) synexiste na akoute ta kakektypa twn Pink Floyd.
Virus gia na se dieykolynw gia na mhn psaxneis akouw klasiko heavy,progressive(oxi gia na to paixw psagmenos giati mou aresei alla den einai prwtotypo alloi ta paixane nwritera) klasiko kai hard rock poser(mhn ksexname tous hammerikous orous0 kai fusion.Epishs to topic tou Wotan den to kleidwsa egw kai de se exw die edw mesa na milas gia tipota allo plhn doom/stoner.
A kai Buddy Lackey na mhn to ksexasw:Gia na deis poso flwros eimai dld oxi tipota allo se sygkrish me sena ton psagmeno metalla pou sta post tou den exei anaferei oute ena group pou na mhn to apo8ewnei to hammer mou aresei poly kai o Bryan Adams periodou 80-84(mexri to Reckless) xereis ekinos o Kanados flwros pou elege to Everything I do.Ta prwta album tou 8ewroudai kai einai vivloi gia to melwdiko rock kai eyxomai kapioi pou me koroidevoun twra kapote na katsoun na ton akousoun pio prosextika.

James de Allenio

PS:Elpizw ayth th fora na egina pio katanohtos se kapious pou me kathgoroun oti milaw gia provata etsi genikologa kai aorista.Psychotron den exw kati mazi sou oute me sena oute me kanenan edw mesa eseis omws xekinhsate na eirwneveste.Sou eyxomai na pas na deis pws gamane oi aor xekwliarhdes stis 14 Noemvrh se sxesh me allous pou vazoune topic oi Orphaned Land sthn Ellada.Poiothta.Kata ta alla egw eimai o elitisths.
PS1:Ade virus kane ayto pou prepei rixe mou ban na xarei o/h the painless fainetai thn/ton peirazoun ayta pou lew 8a nai ths idias synomotaksias me Lackey.
PS2:Carcass epeidh diavazeis ayta pou se symferoun pws to eipe na deis ekeino o Buddy Lackey?"Se lypamai pou akous Planet X".Kata ta alla egw pali eimai o apolytos.

otan tha se rwthsei kapoios filos sou ti ekanes me thn zwh sou ti tha tou les?
mexri ta 40 mou empaina sto internet kai elega ston kosmo ti gamath mh emporikh mousikh akouw kai eimai gamw kai tous elega gia ta periodika pou promotarone modes kai tetoia?
eisai o messias tou metal?
KALA RE PAS KALA?


GET A LIFE

sthn telikh phgaine stis poutanes...

[The_Painless]

Joey_Allen prokaleis xwris na se prokaloun prwton. Deuteron, na kleidwsei to thread ennoousa giati leme/lete ta idia kai ta idia. Etsi ki alliws den mporei na se kanei o Virus ban.
Triton, den katalabainw pws ka8esai ki asxoleisai me atoma, thn apopsh twn opoiwn panw sth mousikh 8ewreis gia gelia. Poso mallon me tis apopseis tous autes ka8autes.
Telos pantwn, sunexiste na grafete katebata na doume ti 8a katalabete. Kalh diaskedash.

[freak brother]

Joey_Allen prokaleis xwris na se prokaloun prwton. Deuteron, na kleidwsei to thread ennoousa giati leme/lete ta idia kai ta idia. Etsi ki alliws den mporei na se kanei o Virus ban.
Triton, den katalabainw pws ka8esai ki asxoleisai me atoma, thn apopsh twn opoiwn panw sth mousikh 8ewreis gia gelia. Poso mallon me tis apopseis tous autes ka8autes.
Telos pantwn, sunexiste na grafete katebata na doume ti 8a katalabete. Kalh diaskedash.

egw pernaw gamw
..
aisthanomai oti exw zwh .. otan vlepw tetoia atoma fantasou

[Deggial]

Eimai egw apolytos otan lew thn apopsh mou gia tous Nevermore px oti einai metrioi kai den einai apolytoi oloi aytoi pou otan akoune th leksh Poison px to prwto pragma pou skeftodai einai “ela mwre malakes pozerades”.

Τα δυο αυτά γεγονότα είναι ανεξάρτητα μεταξύ τους, το ένα δεν αναιρεί το άλλο. Είναι απόλυτοι όσοι ανήκουν στη δεύτερη κατηγορία, αλλά το γεγονός αυτό δε σε κάνει λιγότερο απόλυτο.


Esy witchkiller mporeis na mou apadhseis mias kai akous glam poios pagiwse thn adilhpsh ayth(se rwtaw de se eirwnevomai).Esy carcass mias pou aneferes to germaniko rock hard ws sovaro periodiko(symfwnw apolyta) mporeis na mou apadhseis sthn idia erwthsh?Necropethamene me rwthses “pios eisai esy o 8eos pou 8a valeis ti einai oria sto ti einai metal kai ti oxi” kai me th seira mou se rwtaw “pios einai aytos pou 8a valei oria sto ti einai flwriko kai ti oxi”?Pios einai aytos pou 8a valei oria sto pios einai kalos tragoudisths kai pios oxi?

Κάποια πράγματα δεν επιδέχονται αντικειμενικών κριτηρίων, σαφώς. Κι ως εκ τούτου, υπάρχουν άνθρωποι που τους αρέσει το glam, υπάρχουν και άνθρωποι που τους αρέσουν οι Nevermore ή οι Lacuna Coil.



1.Pios hksere tous Nevermore prin to hammer apo8ewsei to politics.Den to lew ayto gia na pw oti egw eimai psagmenos alla as 8ymh8oume ti ysteria eixe piasei ton kosmo tote me thn kalyetrh mpada tou pagkosmiou power metal(axaxaxaxax).To idio isxyei kai gia tous Iced Earth gia to Dark Saga tous Tool prin to lateralus pios eixe parei prefa to 89(oxi apo sas genika se pagkosmio epipedo) tous Faith No More pou twra 8ymh8hkan kapioi meta apo 15 xronia oti einai 8eoi ktl ktl.Paradeigmata polla.Oxi oti egw katalava tpt pou tous akousa metries mpades oles tous.

Κι από πού να τα μάθουν; Να μυρίσουν τα νύχια τους; Συγγνώμη, δεν έχουν όλοι οι άνθρωποι την ώρα ή την όρεξη να ψάχνουν τα πάντα από μόνοι τους. Και το γεγονός πως κανείς επιλέγει το Α ή Β περιοδικό για την ενημέρωσή του δεν τον κάνει και πρόβατο κατ'ανάγκην.



2.8ewreite oloi sas magkia na xekinaei na akouei metal kapios apo tous Nightwish h apo tous Slayer h apo tous Hammerfall?Egw xekinhsa me Deep Purple kai Accept pantws den paw anapoda san ton kavoura..

Αδυνατώ να δω πώς αυτό σε κάνει, κατά οποιαδήποτε έννοια, καλύτερο άνθρωπο απ'τους πρώτους... ή το γενικότερο νόημα της αναφοράς. Επίσης, το γεγονός πως ξεκινά κανείς από Hammerfall, λόγου χάρη, επειδή αυτοί προωθούνται, δε σημαίνει πως αργότερα δε θα αναθεωρήσει το γούστο του, όταν ακούσει παλαιότερα συγκροτήματα και καταλάβει τι πραγματικά εστί Hammerfall.



4.Sto topic “gynaikeies fwnes sto metal” ektos apo 1-2 paradeigmata evlepa olo Anneke,Tarja ,Liv Kristine….E an ayto de dhlwnei katey8ynsh tote ti sto diaolo einai?H gynaikeia metal fwnh exei fovero parel8on pisw ths:Doro Jutta,Leather Leone,Ann Boleyn.Pios omws epi8ymei na psaxtei panw se 80s grafikothtes etsi?

Συγγνώμη, οι πρώτες έχουν καλύτερες φωνές. Ανεξαρτήτος της μουσικής των συγκροτημάτων στα οποία συμμετέχουν. Προσωπική άποψη...



6.To forum grafei metal discussion.

Το φόρουμ είναι ό,τι επιτρέπουν οι admins και οι moderators.



7.Epishs mhn ksexnate oloi eseis pou dhlwnete mia 10etia mikroteroi mou oti otan to hammer xekinouse thn nevermoropoihsh tou hsastan 14-15 xronwn(1997).Etsi pios mou leei emena oti twra pou to paizete anwteroi tote den to agorazate?

Κι εμένα ποιός μου λέει ότι είσαι πράγματι 32 χρονών, πως ακούς τα Χ πράγματα και έχεις τους Υ δίσκους στη δισκοθήκη σου; Είναι απλώς αδύνατο να το ελέγξω. Χάριν συζητήσεως λοιπόν, απλώς το δέχομαι. Αν λες ψέμματα δεν έχει ιδιαίτερη σημασία. Μιλώ στον Joey_Allen που παρουσιάζεις, διότι μόνο αυτόν δύναται να ξέρω.

[TRAMPAKOULAS]

pantws den boreite na peite oti to makroskeles post tou joey allen htan eirwniko h epi8etiko.ta eipe apla kai omorfa kai egrapse kai arketes alh8eies
na mhn eimaste monoplevroi, etsi?
8)

[freak brother]

pantws den boreite na peite oti to makroskeles post tou joey allen htan eirwniko h epi8etiko.ta eipe apla kai omorfa kai egrapse kai arketes alh8eies
na mhn eimaste monoplevroi, etsi?
8)
den sxoliasa to post.. sxoliasa to me ti kathete kai asxoleitai.. oxi oti mou peftei logos alla mou fainetai hlithio :p

[Joey_Allen]

Trampakoula thx.Freak_brother otan megalwseis kai de sto lew eirwnika isws katalaveis ti 8elw na pw tosh wra.Ma8e na epixeirhmatologeis kai na lypasai ton eayto sou me ta skata pou se taizoune.
Deggial ara katalhgoume sto syberasma oti oloi ligo poly kai as to paizoun kapioi twra anwteroi exoume piasei sta xeria mas to gnwsto entypo kai epeidh opws leei kai o Lackey exei kai tis perissoteres pwlhseis sthn Ellada ara diamorfwnei h exei diamorfwsei kai kapia gousta.Twra 8a diafwnhseis?

[freak brother]

Trampakoula thx.Freak_brother otan megalwseis kai de sto lew eirwnika isws katalaveis ti 8elw na pw tosh wra.Ma8e na epixeirhmatologeis kai na lypasai ton eayto sou me ta skata pou se taizoune.
Deggial ara katalhgoume sto syberasma oti oloi ligo poly kai as to paizoun kapioi twra anwteroi exoume piasei sta xeria mas to gnwsto entypo kai epeidh opws leei kai o Lackey exei kai tis perissoteres pwlhseis sthn Ellada ara diamorfwnei h exei diamorfwsei kai kapia gousta.Twra 8a diafwnhseis?

ta skata pou me taizw maresoune :D

[rockavlon]

asxeto to orphaned einai kalo diskaki ... :P

me yfos tzoni deep gia deep depp.... sto pirates....me mmia apo blaxoi greek porn

Pare kai DARE (edw to ellhniko porn style) KAI na deis pou tha s aresoun... :P ajjajajajajjaja

pantws skeftomai sobara oti einai baltadiko na tou kobw utomata 2-3 bahtmous apo tous 6 :P etsi gia retaliation - kala poios eimai o retali me to pagwmeno gkavli ???

dhladh verermore -3 ktl ktl ktl...

sorry re paidia alla an kapoios exei entypwsh oti akougwntas lacuva kai nightwish akouei heavy metal i telws pantwn kati paraplhsio... ::P ehm rough POP akouei....

teleutaia de ... exw arxisei kai pianw tarja-nikes klimakes... tha sas tis pidiksw maji me t alla samples.... einai ligo parafwnix... alla se synaisthima idies ? kai btw gia opoion eixxe sxoliasei orthografia..... necrodead nomizw.... an den kanw lathos to synaisthima to THI grafetai sta grekos me H ? e gia na mai oloswstos tha to grafa SYNAITHHMA ? optika den einai asxhmo ? an kai orthografika kanw, dekto.. merikes fores ta kanw edw eidika sto er, epeidh mou kolane kalytera sto mati, ginonte dhladh akousia. epeidh den skeftomai ti grafw, alla automata blepw kati na finetai pio armoniko... :P if that gives you a little bit of insight on why it happens e ? mporeis bebaia na peis oti sou katebei edw...

symfwnw me JA meses akres... osoi den ginetai dogs tha ginetai aorades me diafora ligwn etwn. kamia 10 sklhropyrhnikoi tha akoute ta current akousmata sas. oi perissoteroi de tha gelate me auta pou akougate ....

mou to legane ki emena... otan hmoun mikros kai tous elega nai nai panta tha akouw to x,y,w group..... well merika t akouw akoma, merika oxi... alla basika oti ebrize to hammah, twra to proskynaw. :P auta.

[Deggial]

exei kai tis perissoteres pwlhseis sthn Ellada ara diamorfwnei h exei diamorfwsei kai kapia gousta.Twra 8a diafwnhseis?

Δε διαμορφώνει γούστα, διαμορφώνει απόψεις. Όταν κάποιος βρίζει το glam ή κάποιο άλλο είδος μουσικής, δεν είναι υπαίτιο το γούστο του (γιατί τότε θα περιοριζόταν σε κάποια φράση του ύφους "δε μου αρέσει"). Όταν κάποιος τυφλά ακούει ό,τι του πασάρει ένα περιοδικό, δεν τα ακούει λόγω γούστου. Τα ακούει για αίτια που ανέφερα παλαιότερα, σε αυτό ή αντίστοιχο τόπικ (ανασφάλεια, φόβος απόρριψης από κάποιο κοινωνικό σύνολο, κ.α.).

Εν πάση περιπτώσει, η διαφωνία μου με τα λεγόμενά σου δεν έγκειται εκεί. Τα περιοδικά πιέζονται από τρίτους να δημιουργούν μόδες, σύμφωνοι. Η διαφωνία μου έγκειται στις άσχημες γενικεύσεις που κάνεις, πως κάποιος που ακούει το Χ ή Υ συγκρότημα ντε και καλά ανήκει σε μια συγκεκριμένη κατηγορία, τη κατηγορία των ατόμων που τυφλά ακολουθούν κάποια μόδα.

[Dragonlord]

1.Pios hksere tous Nevermore prin to hammer apo8ewsei to politics.Den to lew ayto gia na pw oti egw eimai psagmenos alla as 8ymh8oume ti ysteria eixe piasei ton kosmo tote me thn kalyetrh mpada tou pagkosmiou power metal(axaxaxaxax).To idio isxyei kai gia tous Iced Earth gia to Dark Saga tous Tool prin to lateralus pios eixe parei prefa to 89(oxi apo sas genika se pagkosmio epipedo) tous Faith No More pou twra 8ymh8hkan kapioi meta apo 15 xronia oti einai 8eoi ktl ktl.Paradeigmata polla.Oxi oti egw katalava tpt pou tous akousa metries mpades oles tous.
Βαριέμαι να ξαναδιαβάσω ολόκληρο κατεβατό σου,έφτασα μέχρι εδώ κι έχω να πω το εξής:Το ότι το politics of ecstasy είναι το πρώτο κανονικό album των nevermore δε σου λέει τίποτα φαντάζομαι.Και το Nevermore βέβαια ("album" που δημιουργήθηκε από τα demos τους) είχε πάρει καλές κριτικές.Επίσης στους Iced Earth όταν είχε βγει το Burnt Offerings το hammer είχε βάλει 9/10 και είχε γράψει "γνωρίστε σήμερα τους πρωταγωνιστές του αύριο".Επίσης 5 χρόνια πριν το Lateralus το Aenima των Tool έκανε επιτυχία παγκοσμίως,αλλά εσύ δεν πήρες πρέφα.Το politics of ecstasy το ακούω από το 96 που βγήκε και ακόμα είναι στα αγαπημένα μου albums 8 χρόνια μετά.Σταμάτα να λες μαλακίες με ύφος φωτεινού παντογνώστη γιατί είσαι άσχετος.Άκου ό,τι γουστάρεις και μη μας τα πρήζεις.Φχαριστώ.

[VirusXI]

Virus gia na se dieykolynw gia na mhn psaxneis akouw klasiko heavy,progressive(oxi gia na to paixw psagmenos giati mou aresei alla den einai prwtotypo alloi ta paixane nwritera) klasiko kai hard rock poser(mhn ksexname tous hammerikous orous0 kai fusion.Epishs to topic tou Wotan den to kleidwsa egw kai de se exw die edw mesa na milas gia tipota allo plhn doom/stoner.

PS1:Ade virus kane ayto pou prepei rixe mou ban na xarei o/h the painless fainetai thn/ton peirazoun ayta pou lew 8a nai ths idias synomotaksias me Lackey.

Rekor, kaneis ma kaneis de exei kataferei na grapsei toses pipes mazemenes. Pali quotarw mono ayto pou asxoleisai me mena proswpika.

Ban? hahaha siga mh sou kopsw kai th syndesh.
Diavases ton Wotan na leei 1-2 paparies k tis yio8ethses. Ekeino to topic kleidw8hke giati plhn ths 1hs selida htan off topic. An 8es na ekfraseis thn apopsh sou, rixth ekei pou kollaei mh mas prhzeis ta paparia opou nanai (the only guideline).
Les oti vlepeis na milaw mono gia Doom/Stoner. Nai asxoloumai pio poly mayta, den shmainei oti akouw mono ayta kai oti milaw mono giauta (des kalytera dld. Epishs, to vasikotero, den prhzw kanena na akousei ayta pou akouw. Giauto sou lew na SKASEIS. Eipame, de 8a krineis oute esy oute kaneis ti 8a akousei o ka8enas edw.

Gia ta ypoloipa, variemai na lew ta idia kai ta idia. Afou s'aresei kai parakolou8eis ta panta edw mesa, rikse mia matia sta replies pou sou xw kanei. Ta idia synexizoun na isxyoun.

filatsa
ProfitakosHammer-usXI

[Ethir]

Oraio flame alla den nomizo oti mporei na prosferei allo...
Kleidose to, to gamimeno, den mporo, den mporo na perimeno.

[rockavlon]

egw pantws sas prokalw. elate mia bradia kapou na sas DJarw e ???? kamia SXESH me oti tha xete akousei ....... kai tha balw APO OLA _ APO OLA LEME !!!!!!

[freak brother]

YELWORC RE MOUNIA
ETSI NA AKOUME SKOUPIDIA ainteeeeeeee

[Dragonlord]

1.Pios hksere tous Nevermore prin to hammer apo8ewsei to politics.Den to lew ayto gia na pw oti egw eimai psagmenos alla as 8ymh8oume ti ysteria eixe piasei ton kosmo tote me thn kalyetrh mpada tou pagkosmiou power metal(axaxaxaxax).
Καλά τώρα που το ξανασκέφτομαι τότε είχαν έρθει με τους iced earth και ο κόσμος τους έβριζε (ΠΡΟΦΑΝΩΣ δεν τους θεωρούσαν την καλύτερη μπάντα του παγκόσμιου πάγουερ μέταλ,μάλλον δεν τους ήξεραν καν).Πωπω ΟΚ ΣΚΑΣΕ γιατί έχεις πει τις ΑΠΕΙΡΕΣ ηλιθιότητες.

[Gabriel]

Καλά τώρα που το ξανασκέφτομαι τότε είχαν έρθει με τους iced earth και ο κόσμος τους έβριζε

Mlk apo tis pio apokalyptikes stigmes ths Ellhnikes metallikhs/probatikhs nootropias, plaka sthn plaka.

Poly gelio, an den apodeiknyotan ws h pio tragikh stigmh dyo xronia argotera.

[Dragonlord]

Γιατί;

[Gabriel]

Giati otan sto live oloi ethavan toys Nevermore ws Iced Earth wannabes, katelhksan (osoi Earthades hksera) na proskynane me to Dreaming kai na lene pws aytoi to eixan katalabei pws oi Nevermore gamane apla piasthkan ston enthoysiasmo toy oxloy.

[Dragonlord]

Ναι ok όντως όμως (θέλω να) πιστεύω πως οι περισσότεροι ήταν σαν εμένα,δλδ είχαν μάθει τι είχε γίνει στο προηγούμενο live και γούσταραν να "επανορθώσουν".Επίσης λογικό είναι να τους ξέρουν περισσότεροι με ένα γαμιστερό album παραπάνω,συνήθως έτσι γίνεται κι έτσι πρέπει να γίνεται-βγάζεις ένα γαμάτο δισκάκι και ψιλοακούγεσαι,συνεχίζεις να βγάζεις γαμάτα δισκάκια και αποκτάς οπαδούς.Πάντως ήταν από τα καλύτερα live που έχω πάει-ΑΠΙΣΤΕΥΤΟ πάθος και από τη μπάντα και από τον κόσμο.Ε κι αυτά για το ότι μερικοί "παρασύρθηκαν" δεν είναι εντελώς παράλογα-κι εγώ φώναζα στους gamma ray/hammerfall το 97 "είναι πουτάνες των ρεηβάδων οι μάνες".Ε σχολείο πήγαινα ακόμα,τόσο καταλάβαινα.Αν σκεφτείς πως η πλειοψηφία στις περισσότερες metal συναυλίες είναι στην εφηβεία,δεν είναι περίεργο που δημιουργείται εύκολα ατμόσφαιρα (και νοοτροπία) γηπέδου.Χωρίς να δικαιολογώ κανέναν ε.

[Gabriel]

Oxi tipota allo (ola kala poy ta les), alla kai prwines wres twra se bazei na skeftesai (mias kai "metallikh dhmosiografia" to thread) mhpws o JA exei, estw kai kapoy, dikio gia thn psyxologia toy boskoy. Lew. Yparxoyn kapoies stigmes poy de mas timan.

[Mitsmann]

Ε κι αυτά για το ότι μερικοί "παρασύρθηκαν" δεν είναι εντελώς παράλογα-κι εγώ φώναζα στους gamma ray/hammerfall το 97 "είναι πουτάνες των ρεηβάδων οι μάνες".



Ωχ μαλακες, δηλαδη δεν ειναι πουτανες ????????????????? Εισαι σιγουρος ??? τον Τζου τον ρωτησες ????? Τι ειπε ?????????









....καταρρευση κοσμου.

[Mitsmann]

Oxi tipota allo (ola kala poy ta les), alla kai prwines wres twra se bazei na skeftesai (mias kai "metallikh dhmosiografia" to thread) mhpws o JA exei, estw kai kapoy, dikio gia thn psyxologia toy boskoy. Lew. Yparxoyn kapoies stigmes poy de mas timan.



Ξερεις ποσο ουτοπικο ειναι να περιμενεις σε μια πολυ μεγαλη μαζα που αποτελειται ως επι το πλειστον απο 16-18χρονα να εχουν ΟΛΟΙ μια γαματη κριτικη σκεψη και αποψη χωρις ΚΑΜΜΙΑ φορα να επηρεαστουν απο γραφομενα ??

Μ αρεσει που ανακαλυπτετε ξανα την Αμερικη οταν λετε "μα αν ειναι δυνατον τα 16χρονα που αρχιζουν να ακουνε μεταλ να επηρεαζονται απο τους γιδοβοσκους........"

Ας υποθεσουμε λοιπον οτι καπως, με καποιο τροπο, λεμε τωρα, ο Τζοευ Αλλεν ειχε το Μεταλ Χαμμερ η το Μεταλ Λακ Μαγκαζιν η καποιο αλλο με τις πωλησεις του Χαμμερ η το Μαντ TV και παρουσιαζε το TV Σεσουωρ εξαπολυωντας ολους τους λιβελλους (μου αρεσε αυτο) που εχει ποσταρει κατα καιρους και βριζοντας ολες τις μπαντες εκτος απο αυτο που γουσταρει ο ιδιος γιατι αυτο ειναι το ΑΛΗΘΙΝΟ ΜΕΤΑΛ.

Φανταζεστε τι γενια 16χρονων μεταλλαδων θα γινοταν ε. Θα φερναμε ξανα τους Ταιγκερς οφ Πητερ Παν η οπως λεγονται στο Ροδον.Αν και, με το ιντερνετ κλπ παλι χλωμο τον εβλεπα γιατι ο κοσμος (ως ειθισται σε ΟΛΕΣ τι φασεις του), προχωραει μπροστα.


Συμπερασματικα λοιπον με βαση τα ποστ του Αλλενατορε, ειμαι πεπεισμενος οτι ειναι ΤΟΣΟ μαλακας, οσο αυτοι του Χαμμερ που βριζει.

[warlord]

Tha ithela na eixa mia xronomhxanh na sas evlepa meta apo 10 xronakia....


Kai ego sta 15 mou akouga maiden kai nomiza oti einai h kalyterh mpanta olon ton epoxon...
....afou to egrafe kai to hammer.

[The_Painless]

Ok, mhn eisai uperbolikos twra.
Oi perissoteroi eimaste hdh... mias kapoias hlikias ki akoume apo arketa ws ta perissotera xronia ths zwhs mas auth th mousikh.
Einai re pousth mou san na amfisbhteite to krithrio tou ka8enos apo emas legontas oti auta pou akoume den einai swsta giati kai to hammer ta proballei ws pragmata pou "prepei" kaneis na akouei. Einai entelws hli8io. Anyway...

[necropethamenos]

Epeidh vlepw oti oi epi8eseis edw mesa enantion mou synexizodai anaitia as parw ligo ta pragmata apo thn arxh mpas kai kapios arxisei na katanoei ayta pou grafw.
Den me enoxlei na akouei o ka8enas oti 8elei.Me enoxlei omws na vlepw apopseis atomwn oi opioi den ezhsan thn epoxh telh 80s arxes 90s na lene oti “to aor kai to glam einai h droph ths mousikhs”.

ma oi perissoteroi edw mesa KAI tin epoxi ekeini tin zisame (ws akroates - oxi ws vrefi) KAI den eipame oti to aor einai i ntropi tis mousikis. I telos pantwn, an kapoios to eipe malakia tou, pantws sigoura oi perissoteroi edw mesa DEN lene kati tetoio!!


Me enoxlei to gegonos na vlepw sto post tou Malmsteen na akougetai h mhdenistihkh apopsh oti”mono o Soto re apo kei kai pera le mpoul”.Dhladh o Turner epeidh kapioi dhmosiografoi edw sthn Ellada den ton pane aytomata shmainei oti den einai gamatos?Epeidh dietelese sthn emporikh fash twn Rainbow shmainei oti rixnetai sthn pyra?O Goran Edman ektos apo 2-3 atoma den eida na anaferetai apo kanenan.Pozeras kai aytos etsi?

twra arxises ta gnwsta. Epeidi diladi mporei na mi symfwnoun mazi sou gia tous meta ton Soto tragoudistes paei na pei oti einai katefthinomenoi? GIATI DEN DIANNOEISAI KAN oti MPOREI APLA NA MIN SYMFWNOUN MAZI SOU?????

I apopsi sou einai gia kapoio logo evaggelio gia olous?


Den kanw kanenos eidous khrygma apla 8elw na rwthsw olous esas pou me kathgoreite ws ierokhryka:Pws pagiw8hke h adilhpsh edw sthn Ellada oti to glam einai flwrikh mousikh?Pioi einai aytoi oi opioi prwtoeirwneythkan kai synexizoun fysika na eirwnevodai to sygkekrimeno eidos?

eeee afto itan palia re mastora!! diladi prepei na milas gia to 89 i kapou ekei! "FYGAN OI GERMANOI PAIDAKI MOU?"

episis emeis edw asxolithikame me to an kapoia mousiki einai "flwriki" i oxi? Giati mporw na sou pw meta vevaiotitos oti akouw apeires flwries.


Eimai egw apolytos otan lew thn apopsh mou gia tous Nevermore px oti einai metrioi kai den einai apolytoi oloi aytoi pou otan akoune th leksh Poison px to prwto pragma pou skeftodai einai “ela mwre malakes pozerades”.Esy witchkiller mporeis na mou apadhseis mias kai akous glam poios pagiwse thn adilhpsh ayth(se rwtaw de se eirwnevomai).Esy carcass mias pou aneferes to germaniko rock hard ws sovaro periodiko(symfwnw apolyta) mporeis na mou apadhseis sthn idia erwthsh?

eilikrina twra, xwris eirwnia, asxoleitai kapoios me afto to thema edw kai kammia dekaetia? Giati exw na diavasw OTIDIPOTE sxetiko apeiro kairo.


Necropethamene me rwthses “pios eisai esy o 8eos pou 8a valeis ti einai oria sto ti einai metal kai ti oxi” kai me th seira mou se rwtaw “pios einai aytos pou 8a valei oria sto ti einai flwriko kai ti oxi”?Pios einai aytos pou 8a valei oria sto pios einai kalos tragoudisths kai pios oxi?

KANEIS, KAI DEN XREIAZETAI!!! AFTO LEW APO TIN ARXI!!! DEN YPARXOUN ANTIKEIMENIKA KRITIRIA KAI EVERYTHING IS FINE JUST LIKE THAT!!!!!


Krinoume dld enan tragoudisth apo to gegonos se pia group exei symmetasxei h ton krinoume me vash ta aytia mas?gia na xerw dld.Dhladh epeidh se kapion aresei to doom kai tou arese to Krux 8a paei na agorasei mono tous diskous me Leven tou Malmsteen e?Wraia adilhpsh.

ma PWS katelikses se afto?! Pou to diavases afto?! Ti les??


Witchkiller gia pes mou mias kai akous glam einai ntroph ths mousikhs?Den lew oti to eipes esy apla esy katalavaineis mias kai akous to eidos ayto kai den perimenw apo ton anwtero Lackey ton koultouriarh pou akouei Nevermore kai tous prwtotypous panw apo ola Watchtower na mou apadhsei.Esy symfwneis me thn adilhpsh ayth?Mhpws giati efere kosmo sto rock?Mhpws giati gia plaka ta album ayta ftanane sto noumero ena aneksarthtws eidous kai kontrarane sta isa thn pop?Mhpws giati kapies syn8eseis grapsane istoria kai synexizoun na tragoudiountai akoma(px Love Bites-Def Leppard,Every Rose has its Thorn-Poison ktl).As mou apadhsei kapios loipon me vash pia krithria 8ewrei ena group kalo Me vash mono ta aytia tou?Dld necropethamene otan xekinhses na akous mousikh amesws katalaves oti oi tade einai gamw ta group esy pote den epiases kapio periodiko sta xeria sou.

Kat'arxin den epiasa periodiko gia na mou pei TI EINAI KALO kai TI PREPEI NA AKOUW. Epiasa periodiko gia na mathw ti paizei. Ti kykloforei. Apo kei kai pera PANTA t'aftia mou itan to kritirio KAI MONO.

Diladi, de mou aresoun oi Judas Priest. POTE de mou aresan. An kritirio itan OTIDIPOTE ektos apo t'aftia mou ypirxe pithanotita na mi mou aresoun?

Episis exeis kollisei sto oti AN kapoios akouei Nevermore den tha akouei Def Leppard. Afto to pragma einai eknevristiko. Stous apolyta agapimenous diskous mou einai to triumph of steel, to drfeelgood twn motley crue, to heavy horses twn jethro tull kai to twinaleblood twn pyogenesis. Prosekse de to lew gia plaka, milame gia diskous pou tous kserw ap'eksw. Ask tramp.

E den eimai magikos, apla EFXARISTIEMAI TI MOUSIKI!!!! Esy giati anti na tin efxaristitheis tin kaloupwneis kai maxesai?! DEN EXOUME POLEMO RE MASTORA!!! VALTO STI KEFALA!!!!


1.Pios hksere tous Nevermore prin to hammer apo8ewsei to politics.Den to lew ayto gia na pw oti egw eimai psagmenos alla as 8ymh8oume ti ysteria eixe piasei ton kosmo tote me thn kalyetrh mpada tou pagkosmiou power metal(axaxaxaxax).To idio isxyei kai gia tous Iced Earth gia to Dark Saga tous Tool prin to lateralus pios eixe parei prefa to 89(oxi apo sas genika se pagkosmio epipedo) tous Faith No More pou twra 8ymh8hkan kapioi meta apo 15 xronia oti einai 8eoi ktl ktl.Paradeigmata polla.Oxi oti egw katalava tpt pou tous akousa metries mpades oles tous.

EGW EGW EGW! POU DIAVAZA KAI HAMMER!!! EIDES? GINETAI!!!!

Ektos apo tous tool oooolous tous ypoloipous pou anafereis tous iksera poly prin apo tous diskous pou anafereis. Eidika peri Iced Earth, ntaks, SIGA POU ME TO DARK SAGA TOUS MATHAME!!!!!


2.8ewreite oloi sas magkia na xekinaei na akouei metal kapios apo tous Nightwish h apo tous Slayer h apo tous Hammerfall?Egw xekinhsa me Deep Purple kai Accept pantws den paw anapoda san ton kavoura..

den yparxei anapoda kai swsta re file!!! Oute psaxnei kaneis ti "magkia". Esy ksekinises me deep purple alla eisai 32!!! Milas diladi gia mia 20etia peripou prin. De vlepeis ti diafora? KAI TI EGINE an akoune pio kainourgia pragmata stin arxi? Kai ti egine an kataliksoun na akoune kati pou esena de s'aresei!?!?! Oxi pragmatika, ESENA GIATI SOU TI DINEI?!


3.Pia h sxesh tou hardcore me to metal.Epeidh oi mpaglamades aytoi arxisane na klevoune twra tous Bolt Thower ginane xafnika kai metallades?Exoune kamia sxesh oi hardcorades me klasiko heavy metal px me Accept?

oxi fysika, den exoun. KAI? PREPEI OLOI NA MOIAZOUN ME TOUS ACCEPT GIA NA TOUS AKOUS? I PREPEI OLOI NA EINAI KATW APO TIN HEAVY METAL TAMPELA GIA NA TOUS AKOUS?

EINAI PARANOMO NA AKOUS KATI PERAN TOU KLASSIKOU HEAVY METAL?

POIOS EINAI O FASISTAS TWRA?!


4.Sto topic “gynaikeies fwnes sto metal” ektos apo 1-2 paradeigmata evlepa olo Anneke,Tarja ,Liv Kristine….E an ayto de dhlwnei katey8ynsh tote ti sto diaolo einai?H gynaikeia metal fwnh exei fovero parel8on pisw ths:Doro Jutta,Leather Leone,Ann Boleyn.Pios omws epi8ymei na psaxtei panw se 80s grafikothtes etsi?

esy profanws. Ti se enoxlei pou den epithymoun to idio oi alloi?!


5.Mas peirazei otan ena group paizei metal dekaetias 80 kai den mas peirazei otan o ka8e malakas Souhdos shkwnei mia ki8ara kai kataklevei ta osa epaixan 30 xronia prin oi Ufo kai oi Mountain?PX Spiritual Beggars The Quill kai ena swro alloi.

Oute to ena mas peirazei oute to allo!!!


6.To forum grafei metal discussion.Den grafei oute industrial oute hardcore discussion oute alternative.Gia pio logo loipon postaroun sto topic kai malista eirwnevodai atoma me tetoia nick h atoma pou den exoune dei ton Lande pote tous?Den 8a tane protimotero na ftiaxtei ena hardcore discussion?Atoma me nick amnesiac as pane na grapsoune sto no-metal afou den katexoune apo metal.

GOUAOU EXEIS DEI TON LANDE?! EISAI PRAGMATIKOS METALLAS!!!

To ti einai metal kai ti oxi einai enas ypokeimenikos orismos. Gia alli mia fora prospatheis me ti fasistonootropia sou na epivalleis ton diko sou.


7.Epishs mhn ksexnate oloi eseis pou dhlwnete mia 10etia mikroteroi mou oti otan to hammer xekinouse thn nevermoropoihsh tou hsastan 14-15 xronwn(1997).Etsi pios mou leei emena oti twra pou to paizete anwteroi tote den to agorazate?Pios mou leei emena oti an to hammer opws sas eprhze ta arxidia me to Reign in Blood den sas ta eprhze me to Escape twn Journey h me to 4 twn Foreigner ayth th stigmh den 8a apo8ewnate to aor th stigmh pou stis gynaikeies metal fwnes oloi (sxedon) postarate tragoudistries apo to 94 kai meta?

Egw sto lew. EGW. KAI PARTO XAMPARI EISAI 32 OPOTE LOGIKO EINAI NA EXEIS PALIOTERES ANAFORES!!! SYGXARITIRIA!!!


8.Gia na teleiwnw loipon den 8ewrw to glam/aor ws to kalytero eidos mousikhs.To 8ewrw omws san ena timio eidos opou kapios aksizei na to psaxei kai na xefygei apo th stereotyph adilhpsh tou flwrikou pou kapioi tou exoune perasei.Sthn telikh necropethamene olio mas apo kapio periodiko arxisame kai safws periodiko me periodiko exei diafora px vlepeis to hammer na vgazei diskous tou mhna sygkekrimenou dianomea pou se ena mhna den 8a tous 8ymatai kaneis .Ara ti diafora exei ayto to periodiko me opiodhpote allo trendy periodiko pou prow8oun thn Kalomoira pou se 4-5 mhnes den 8a th xerei oute h mama ths?

ma koita, to periodiko den to pairneis gia na sou orgwsei to myalo. To pairneis gia na akouseis ti kykloforei, kammia synentefksi klp. Poion endiaferei pragmatika poios einai diskos tou mina? As einai opoios einai. Mporei na einai kai apo gousto pou ton valane i mporei kai epeidi tous piesan. Xestika. An kapoios den exei myalo na krinei gia parti tou den ftaine oute ta periodika oute kaneis. Ftaiei o idios pou den exei xrisimopoiisei to myalo tou arketa.


9.Den einai ntroph na mporw na vriskw tous diskous tou tade agnwstou akraiou group kai na mhn mporw px na vrw to proswpiko ths fwnaras pou legetai Tony Harnell?Den einai ntroph ena swro groupares apo ton xwro tou melwdikou hard/heavy na 8ewroudai padelws agnwstes sthn Ellada epeidh kapioi malakes tous 8ewroune metrious(Kingdome Come).Den einai ntroph gia ton Ellhna opado apo klasiko metal na exei 8-9 group kai na agnoei px tous Gothic Knights?

oxi. Den einai ntropi. Esy pou psaxnesai tous ksereis. An aresoun stous ypoloipous einai allo thema, kai de sou peftei logos.


10.(i promise the last).Necropethamene me eipes elitisth.Panw se ayto loipon pou eipa prin gia ton Ellhna metalla o ellhnas nomizei oti an mazepsei 4-5 sxhmata teleiwse apo to klasiko metal kai exei thn entypwsh pws an psaxtei me Neurosis h me Ved Buens Ende 8a deixei kai pio psagmenos.Pios einai loipon elitisths egw h h sthlh horror tou hammer pou diavazeis gia Isis px kai nomizeis oti exeis na kaneis me tipota 8eous makria apo ton “true” oxlo?Ftasame sto shmeio sthn Ellada na xwristoume se 2 kommatia kai na 8ewroumaste oloi emeis pou goustaroume klasiko heavy aor/glam kai genikotera melwdikous diskous ws elite apo kapious h ws psagmenoi apo kapious allous th stigmh pou paei o allos pairnei to Summerian Daemons px kai vgainei apo to diskadiko kai fouskwnei perhfana san kokoraki les kai phre ton apolyto metal disko!Mhn trela8oume to glam sthn Ellada safws einai katadiwkomeno eidos.An psaxtoume olio ligo parapanw safws kai ayto 8a papsei na isxyei.To deixnei allwste kati pou xanagrapsa oti ola ta xronia 1 synavlia tetoiou eidous egine.

o monos logos pou eisai elitistis einai OXI to gegonos oti akous kati pou alloi den akoune ALLA TO GEGONOS OTI MAXESAI ENANTION TWN ALLWN EIDWN MOUSIKIS, THEWRONTAS OTI SE APEILOUN, OTI EISAI O EKLEKTOS POU THA PEIS STOUS ALLOUS TI THA AKOUSOUN, OTI SE ESTEILE O THEOS TOU METAL STI GI GIA NA DIDAKSEIS SE EMAS TOUS KOUFOUS TI PREPEI NA AKOUSOUME.

GIA'FTO EISAI ELITISTIS, OXI GIA TA GOUSTA SOU.


PS:Elpizw ayth th fora na egina pio katanohtos se kapious pou me kathgoroun oti milaw gia provata etsi genikologa kai aorista.Psychotron den exw kati mazi sou oute me sena oute me kanenan edw mesa eseis omws xekinhsate na eirwneveste.Sou eyxomai na pas na deis pws gamane oi aor xekwliarhdes stis 14 Noemvrh se sxesh me allous pou vazoune topic oi Orphaned Land sthn Ellada.Poiothta.Kata ta alla egw eimai o elitisths.

Diavase ta parapanw. Episis nai, orphaned land = poiotita. To oti exeis apofasiseis na min tin efxaristitheis APO PEPOITHISIS kai oxi apo diafora goustou kati leei omws e.

Telos, diavase OLES tis apantiseis mou opws diavasa OLO to post sou.

[Mitsmann]

ο Αλλε-ι-νιτσεφ επιβεβαιωνει οσα ειπα πιο πριν.


Στα τετοια του αν κατευθυνονται τα παιδακια αρκει να κατευθυνονται με μεταλ 80ς και Λαντε και Χοσε Μαρια Εστρα-Λαντε και Αορ.


Αν μαλιστα ειχε την "γραφικη" και "αγοραστικη" δυναμη θα ξεχνουσε να φαει και να κοιμηθει ωστε να κατευθυνει τα μεταλλοπαιδακια να ακουνε πραγματα που σαν ειδος ειναι ΩΡΑΙΑ αλλα Π Ε Θ Α Ν Α Ν το 89. Σορυ δηλαδη αλλα ετσι ειναι.

Χερ Αλλεν Γιαβολ λοιπον. Ες Ες Αορ Ουμπερ Αλλεν και τα τοιαυτα.

[Rush]

Egw pantws ta teleytaia 5 xronia akouw poly melodiko hard rock/aor/glam/pes to opws 8es.Bebaia akouw kai 100000000 alla pragmata xwris na trww kollhmata kai xwris na brizw kanenan.Pantws exontas filous pou asxolountai sxedon apolkleistika edw kai polla xronia aor ktl kai exontas gnwrisei ena arketa megalo meros tou olou kyklwmatos sth ellada exw na pw oti oi perissoteroi apo aytos ais8anontai "meiopshfia" kai "apeiloumeno eidos" (endangered species pou lene oi 8eoi Y&T) kai ta xwnoun akatapaysta xwris na steftontai ti lene.Etsi wntas teleiws dogmatikoi (fontametalistes ths mousikhs,yeah!) xanoun oti dikio exoun.Genika chill out paides!Kaneis den 8elei na meiwsei kanenos thn Fav music.

All we're saying,is give peace a chance.....

No respect pou lene kai oi Vain(pou tous exei kanei paragwgh kai o 8eos Northfield!!!)

[freak brother]

Ναι ok όντως όμως (θέλω να) πιστεύω πως οι περισσότεροι ήταν σαν εμένα,δλδ είχαν μάθει τι είχε γίνει στο προηγούμενο live και γούσταραν να "επανορθώσουν".Επίσης λογικό είναι να τους ξέρουν περισσότεροι με ένα γαμιστερό album παραπάνω,συνήθως έτσι γίνεται κι έτσι πρέπει να γίνεται-βγάζεις ένα γαμάτο δισκάκι και ψιλοακούγεσαι,συνεχίζεις να βγάζεις γαμάτα δισκάκια και αποκτάς οπαδούς.Πάντως ήταν από τα καλύτερα live που έχω πάει-ΑΠΙΣΤΕΥΤΟ πάθος και από τη μπάντα και από τον κόσμο.Ε κι αυτά για το ότι μερικοί "παρασύρθηκαν" δεν είναι εντελώς παράλογα-κι εγώ φώναζα στους gamma ray/hammerfall το 97 "είναι πουτάνες των ρεηβάδων οι μάνες".Ε σχολείο πήγαινα ακόμα,τόσο καταλάβαινα.Αν σκεφτείς πως η πλειοψηφία στις περισσότερες metal συναυλίες είναι στην εφηβεία,δεν είναι περίεργο που δημιουργείται εύκολα ατμόσφαιρα (και νοοτροπία) γηπέδου.Χωρίς να δικαιολογώ κανέναν ε.

xaxaxa egw den fwnaza.. giati fovomouna mhn ginw kai gw raver meta kai .. aisthanomai asxhma

[VirusXI]

o Rush ta leei kala.

Exei trelh plaka pou o necropethamenos milaei *akrivws etsi* opws kanei replies edw haheha TO MABOOL EINAI GTP RE. =P

[Carcass_]

Allen, den exw na prosthesw kati ektos apo auto pou eipe o trampakoulas gia to teleutaio sou post kai osa eipe fusika o Dragonlord gia nevermore kai iced earth ( oswn afora thn poreia tous sthn Ellada, oxi thema goustou ).
Genikotera o tupos ethese kapoia pragmata opws tampeles, diamaxh slayer-sepultura , true metal, blackades vs deathades kai alla diafora tetoia skoupidia. Kai ta 2 tote periodika euthunontai gia auto. Alla apo thn stigmh pou einai skoupidia, as mhn ta kanoume katesthmeno mas.
Oswn afora ayto pou me rwthses gia ton mpanti laki, ton anthrwpo ton exw gnwrisei edw kai kairo, kserw panw katw tis apopseis tou gia thn mousikh ( xwris na shmainei oti sumfwnw panta ) kai kserw oti genikotera den sumperiferetai san fasistas otan milaei gia auth. Den diavasa to sugkekrimeno pou egrapse alla kai na to diavaza den tha eixe diafora epeidh opws sou eipa ton exw gnwrisei. Esena den se kserw. Einai toso aplo. Den einai thema oute sumferontwn, den pernw xrhmata apo kanenan, den ladwnomai, den ta exw me kapoion apo edw mesa, den eimai sundikalisths tou e.r. klp klp. Apla apo ta post tou mpanti laki tha grapsei sta 1000 , 1 post tetoio enw esu eixes thn pleiopshfia se tetoia posts.
Tespa, to kourasame kai varethika pragmatika. O freak brother to diaskedazei akoma. xara sto kouragiou tou.

[necropethamenos]

o Rush ta leei kala.

Exei trelh plaka pou o necropethamenos milaei *akrivws etsi* opws kanei replies edw haheha TO MABOOL EINAI GTP RE. =P

NTAKS malaka otan katsw panw sou na dw ti tha les...

[VirusXI]

o Rush ta leei kala.

Exei trelh plaka pou o necropethamenos milaei *akrivws etsi* opws kanei replies edw haheha TO MABOOL EINAI GTP RE. =P

NTAKS malaka otan katsw panw sou na dw ti tha les...

olo logia eisai :midfinger:

[Kain]

o Rush ta leei kala.

Exei trelh plaka pou o necropethamenos milaei *akrivws etsi* opws kanei replies edw haheha TO MABOOL EINAI GTP RE. =P

Τα κόκκινα huge,bold πώς τα εκφράζει ? :P

[VirusXI]

san gkei =p

[necropethamenos]

san gkei =p

:shock:

[Kain]

ΜΜμμμΜΜΜμΜμΜμμ :wink: :P

[rockavlon]

ehm kala oi tygers htan kai se mia mca e :P ti allo htela na pw eeee... a oi van halen px me ton xontrompala ton hagar - einai pisw akribws apo tous aplyta :P pou filhsane ton kwlo ton nirvana fans... :P alliws an bgenane kai legane metal ktl den tha xane kai kanenas opado me tis malkaies pou exoun kyklofwrhsei... zakk wylde re mounia - mporei na bgazei pswle blaxodiskous - pou den akougwntai all exei attitude.... kai na paizei tis malakies pou tous grafoun alloi gia ton karagiozzy :P

[telis]

Egw pantws ta teleytaia 5 xronia akouw poly melodiko hard rock/aor/glam/pes to opws 8es.Bebaia akouw kai 100000000 alla pragmata xwris na trww kollhmata kai xwris na brizw kanenan.Pantws exontas filous pou asxolountai sxedon apolkleistika edw kai polla xronia aor ktl kai exontas gnwrisei ena arketa megalo meros tou olou kyklwmatos sth ellada exw na pw oti oi perissoteroi apo aytos ais8anontai "meiopshfia" kai "apeiloumeno eidos" (endangered species pou lene oi 8eoi Y&T) kai ta xwnoun akatapaysta xwris na steftontai ti lene.Etsi wntas teleiws dogmatikoi (fontametalistes ths mousikhs,yeah!) xanoun oti dikio exoun.Genika chill out paides!Kaneis den 8elei na meiwsei kanenos thn Fav music.

All we're saying,is give peace a chance.....

No respect pou lene kai oi Vain(pou tous exei kanei paragwgh kai o 8eos Northfield!!!)

Άψογος... Έντάξει το μελωδικό hard rock ήταν κάποτε μόδα... Τώρα καλώς ή κακώς δεν είναι... Γουστάρεις ν' ακούς αυτή τη μουσική, δεν τρέχει τίποτα... Δε βλέπω να έχει επικυρηχθεί πουθενά... Όλα τα δισκάδικα έχουν "poserάδικα" cd και μάλιστα μερικά τα προωθούν αρκετά. Το κάθε περιοδικό ή site έχει ένα στυλ κι αν δεν το γουστάρεις, απλά δεν το αγοράζεις. Κατηγορούμε όλοι το hammer ή το rock on για πλύση εγκεφάλου... Εδώ αρκετοί προσπαθούμε να κάνουμε πλύση εγκεφάλου γι' αυτά που μας αρέσουν. Joey allen το να προσπαθείς να κάνεις ξανά μόδα το μελωδικό hard rock είναι λάθος... Για μένα είναι πιο cult έτσι όπως είναι... Τολμώ να πω ότι τώρα βγαίνουν πιο ουσιαστικά και πιο ποιοτικά cd σε σχέση με τα 80's που είχαν βγει και πολλά σκουπιδια...

[rockavlon]

polla skoupidia pou isws na mhn exeis akousei ? poios exei akousei dalton i boulevard i den kserw kai gw pious alloug gia na apofanthei an einai skoupidia h oxi, edw kai House of lords paizei na mhn exete akousei i pio polloi, apala yyiotheteitai auto pou legane oi hammers- skoupidia - blakies flwries... admmit so... godamn it.