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Carcass_
30-08-2004, 19:07
Loipon, mou exei dhmiourgithei h ekshs aporeia.
Vlepw teleutaia sta posts alla kai genikotera ston eksw kosmo mia eksarsh gia to " poso gamatoi einai oi Ellhnes " kai " eimaste oi kaluteroi " kai " eimaste perhfanoi " klp klp.
Fusika otan akoustei mia tetoia apopsh ( opws h teleutaia ) gia kati pou ginetai , opws px to oti kataferame na kanoume tous Olympiakous Agwnes, einai logiko ( gia to oti ta kataferame ). Par'ola auta epeidh auto sunexizete peran autou tou oriou kai leme sunexeia to " poso idieteros laos eimaste " , epeidh proswpika den mporw na to katalavw kai epeidh den exw peistei , tha ithela oi exwntes tetoies apopseis na peite ousiastika ( prosoxh sto ousiastika ) giati eiste perhfanoi kai exete tetoia sunaisthimata. Eiste perhfanoi gia thn politikh mas ? Gia to ti exoume kanei sthn logotexnia ? Stis episthmes ( thetikes kai texnologikes ) ? Sthn organwsh mas ? gia to ti exoume prosferei sto kosmo ? Gia to pws leitourgei h koinwnia mas ? Gia to ti nootropies uparxoun shmera ? Gia to pws leitourgei sunolika to kratos mas ( apo ta katw mexri ta panw ) ? gia ton athlitismo mas ? Kai kuriws , kanontas sugkrish twn parapano erwthmatwn ( h allwn apanthsewn pou erxontai apo alla erwthmata ) me allous laous, pou kataleigete , ti prismata vgazete kai ti pisteuete ?
Akouw apopseis.
Carcass_
30-08-2004, 19:09
apanthseis tou stul " o arxaios ellhnikos politismos ekane to ena kai to allo " einai kathisterhmenes kai ektos topic. Profanws milame gia thn neoterh istoria, gia thn Ellada pou uparxei twra kai oxi gia tis poleis-krath pou uphrksan kapote ston Elladiko xwro.
symposium_lexotanil
30-08-2004, 19:11
:mouse:
Carcass_
30-08-2004, 19:12
mpits
to erwthma auto skeftomoun na thesw kai egw.
Eisai agaph.
ManWhoSoldTheWorld
30-08-2004, 19:12
ena sxolio na prosthesw: nomizw oti osoi ipostirizoun afta , sinithws anaferontai stin psixi tou ellina, dld sto poso diaferoume apo tous allous evrwpaious sto thema aksiwn opws to filotimo, i filoksenia, i megalokardia kai tetoia pramata. de ta ipostirizw , apla to prosthetw san sxolio.
AngelOfSorrow
30-08-2004, 19:18
mexri ena simeio einai fysiologiko na perifaneyetai kathe laos...
kai etsi ginetai.den vriksw kati parakseno sayto.
apo kei kai pera thewrw ypervoliko to na leme synexeia gia to parelthon...
standar eimaste o pio parelthontogavlos laos,kai ayto mas kanei na mi vlepoume ta simerina skata...enw tha eprepe na prospathisoume na paradeigmatistoume,oso ginetai,apo to parelthon.
symposium_lexotanil
30-08-2004, 19:20
:mouse:
Carcass_
30-08-2004, 19:20
Man: to filotimo, filoksenia , megalokardia klp pou les prokuptoun apo ta erwthmata pou tethikan ( pistepse me , prokuptoun).
Kati poio ousiwdes uparxei ? Eipa , prosoxh, kaneis den me akouse.
Yparxei kapoios pou na mporei na apanthsei en telh ?
Carcass_
30-08-2004, 19:21
kai sas parakalw, mhn milhsei kaneis gia to parelthon. H erwthsh den einai autn. Plz, on topic. Ta 'pame auta e.
tin idia aporia exo ki ego kata kairous
kai mia akoma
kathe laos leei tetoia paromoia gia tin afentia tou i einai mono pronomio ton ellinon ki auto?
Όχι σε αυτή την έκταση, εξαιρουμένων των Η.Π.Α.. Υπάρχει βεβαίως ένα κοινό στοιχείο, πως και οι δυο χώρες προσπαθούν να ανακαλύψουν τον εαυτό τους. Και τα δυο κράτη υπάρχουν για περίπου 2 αιώνες. Οι μεν χρειάστηκε να δείξουν την ανεξαρτησία τους απ'την Ευρώπη, οι δε να αποβάλλουν τα όποια τουρκικά κατάλοιπα.
AngelOfSorrow
30-08-2004, 19:27
de ginetai na min anafertheis sto parelthon afou yparxoun akoma ellines pou pisteyoun pws o dimas pire to metallio stin varkelwni,apla kai mono epeidi i ellada evgale ton aristoteli... :? :(
OK ALLI MIA APORIA
GIATI PANTA PREPEI NA THEOREITAI OTI OI ARXAIOI ELLINES ITAN TOSO GAMATOI KAI OI NEOELLINES TOSO SKATA?
to oti oi neoellines einai toso skata to pisteyw ki egw
to oti i arxaioi ellines itan toso gamatoi to pisteyei o velopoulos
symposium_lexotanil
30-08-2004, 19:30
:mouse:
OK ALLI MIA APORIA
GIATI PANTA PREPEI NA THEOREITAI OTI OI ARXAIOI ELLINES ITAN TOSO GAMATOI KAI OI NEOELLINES TOSO SKATA?
Μάλλον επειδή η μόρφωση των περισσοτέρων για την αρχαιότητα μένει στα σχολικά βιβλία και στην εκλεπτυσμένη και αλλοιωμένη μορφή που παρουσιάζεται η ιστορία από τέτοιες πηγές.
Επιπλέον, η σύγκριση με το παρελθόν είναι μάλλον άτοπη, αφού μεσολαβεί η Ρωμαϊκή/Βυζαντινή και Τουρκική Αυτοκρατορία.
Once_Emperor
30-08-2004, 19:39
Einai aplo!Emeis oi ellines eimaste anwteroi apo olous tous allous giati den eimaste koinoi anthrwpoi!
EIMASTE ANDROMEDIOI PELASGOI APO TO GALAXIA TIS ANDROMEDAS!
giauto kiries kai kirioi eimaste toso aneptigmenoi...
o politismos mas pigazei apo ena proigmeno exwgiino politismo
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
P.S:Alitheia pios allos laos einai toso tragikos wste na pisteuei oti einai apo allo galaxia?
ManWhoSoldTheWorld
30-08-2004, 19:45
P.S:Alitheia pios allos laos einai toso tragikos wste na pisteuei oti einai apo allo galaxia?
kanenas laos de pistevei oti einai apo allo galaksia. mia parea to pistevei.
OK ALLI MIA APORIA
GIATI PANTA PREPEI NA THEOREITAI OTI OI ARXAIOI ELLINES ITAN TOSO GAMATOI KAI OI NEOELLINES TOSO SKATA?
Giati htan kai giati, let's face it, eimaste. Panw-katw.
Egw nomizw oti o Ellhnas perissotero apo kathe allo lao antikatoptrizei sthn ethnikothta toy. Oi perissoteroi Ellhnes de skeftontai pia sa monades. Den krinoyn thn epityxia toys sth bash toy ti petyxainoyn oi idioi. Arkoyntai na "klevoyn" reflected perhfaneia apo toys Arxaioys, toys Olympionikes, thn Olympiada (sthn opoia mporei na mh synebalan katholoy). Einai les kai epeidh o Platwnas egrapse thn politeia, o Kyr-Giwrgos ston kafene toy xwrioy ekane to xreos toy. Petyxe kati.
Egw lew prepei na ksanagynoyme prwta atoma kai meta Ellhnes. An kanoyme oti mporoyme sa monades, h Ellada (poy eimaste emeis) tha einai "megalh". An kathomaste kai armegoyme thn Ellada, oyte emeis oyte h idia paei poythena.
Filia.
AngelOfSorrow
30-08-2004, 20:04
http://www.daniken.com/e/bibliography.shtml
exei diavasei kaneis to vivlio pou anaferei ston titlo tous arxaious ellines?
"odyssey of the gods" or smth...
exw diavasei 3 vivlia tou kai eidika to "anamniseis apo to mellon" me afise psilomalaka...
an kai milouse gia oropedia nazca kai klassika pragmata,a3izei san vivlio...sorry pou eimai off topic :D
Ta mathimatika sozoun tin katastasi. Stin prosfati Olumpiada pou molis xthes teleiose, emeis kai oi Ouggroi eimaste stin proti thesi ton metallion an upologisoume san varutita ton pluthismo tis kathe xoras. Vevaia emeis eixame to pleonektima tis edras kai tis megalis summetoxis (an kai ti na to kaneis an apo tous 443 athlites oi 300 apla sumplironoun to cast) opote mallon oi Ouggroi einai pio gamatoi apo mas. Tora diaxronika kai ta loipa de xero na apantiso. Mallon ki oi Kinezoi gamatoi einai, ase pou einai 120 fores oso emeis... :?
pitchfork
30-08-2004, 22:43
P.S:Alitheia pios allos laos einai toso tragikos wste na pisteuei oti einai apo allo galaxia?
kanenas laos de pistevei oti einai apo allo galaksia. mia parea to pistevei. καθυστερημένων.
Γιατί όμως έχω την εντύπωση ότι αυτά έχουν συζητηθεί ξανά?
Deja vu
ManWhoSoldTheWorld
30-08-2004, 23:10
P.S:Alitheia pios allos laos einai toso tragikos wste na pisteuei oti einai apo allo galaxia?
kanenas laos de pistevei oti einai apo allo galaksia. mia parea to pistevei. καθυστερημένων.
indeed
silencerius
31-08-2004, 00:04
Mallon ki oi Kinezoi gamatoi einai, ase pou einai 120 fores oso emeis... :?
130,5 :D
ax kinezoules
StationEleven
31-08-2004, 03:35
:pingpong:
Θεωρώ πως είναι καθαρά θέμα κόμπλεξ. Ευλογούμε τα γένια μας γιατί πολύ απλά δεν το κάνει κανείς άλλος. Αντιθέτως μπορούν να μας κατηγορήσουν για πολλά και να έχουν δίκιο.
Ntax to oti paineuomaste de simainei oti exoume kai ti muga kai de goustaroume na nomizoun oti eimaste katoteroi epeidi eimaste... siga, ti exoume na zilepsoume stin teliki apo tous allous....
MoRmEnGiL
31-08-2004, 07:04
to mhkos twn kauliwn tous.
necropethamenos
31-08-2004, 08:25
yparxoun teleiws vasikes ennoies pou xreiazetai na analysei kaneis sto kefali tou an thelei na skeftei logika.
kai i pio "vareia" apo aftes, kai afti pou efthynetai gia ton malaka ellina pou fwnazei "kenteris kenteris" ston agwna tou allou einai TO ETHNOS (oxi i efimerida e).
Gia kapoio logo pistevoume oti to na anikeis se ena ethnos simainei aftomatws oti oi prakseis sou anikoun kai stous ypoloipous, oti eisai syndedemenos me kapoion yperfysiko tropo me tous syn-ethnites sou, oti to idio aima kylaei stis fleves sas kai ws ek toutou kati fovero kai tromero sas enwnei olous.
An kaneis skeftei logika kai apofasisei epitelous oti o kathe anthrwpos einai ksexwristo on (pragma pou tha eprepe na exei katanoisei sta 10 tou xronia to poly e) isws parei prefa kai oti to na kerdisei kapoios kati stous olympiakous den einai niki tis elladas alla aftou pou kerdise ekeino to kati.
Aftomatws episis tha katalavei oti oi ellines metaksy tous den einai oute kata diannoia idioi, omoaimatoi kai apogonoi SWNEI KAI KALA twn arxaiwn ellinwn.
i moni syndesi einai politistiki, OSO apo dafti yparxei.
Sxetika pantws me to thema tis istorikis synexeias twn ellinwn klp sas parapempw sto vivlio tou Michael Herzfeld "Pali dika mas" pou diavazw aftes tis meres.
Thelw na kataliksw loipon sto oti oi ellines gia na einai perifanoi ws ethnos gia tin elladara tous prepei na kataferoun kati SYLLOGIKO. Mono etsi tha to dikaiologouse opoiosdipote logika skeptomenos (synaisthimatika skeptomenos mporei na thelei na fygoun kai oi alvanoi apo tin ellada).
An oi ellines kataferoun na kanoun tin oikonomia tous gamati kai oi ftwxoi na ginoun elaxistoi, tote vevaiws na einai perifanoi gia tote tha exoun kanei kati san XWRA. Oso i epityxia einai ena pragma pou vasizetai se memonwmena proswpa (ena, enteka, ekato...) e, apla vriskoume tin efkairia na fwnazoume oti eimaste gamatoi mias kai sti pragmatikotita ws xwra eimaste mpazo.
MoRmEnGiL
31-08-2004, 08:30
pwpw de barieste h8ela na 3era??
http://members.lycos.co.uk/tolkiengrnet/devel/forum/phpbb/images/smiles/5obsessed.gif
necropethamenos
31-08-2004, 08:40
oxi.
MoRmEnGiL
31-08-2004, 08:44
http://members.lycos.co.uk/tolkiengrnet/devel/forum/phpbb/images/smiles/shit%20xapens.gif
Carcass_
31-08-2004, 15:07
Egw vevaia auto pou zhthsa einai apo ta atoma ta opoia uposthrizoun auta pou yposthrizoun na vgoun kai na poun kai to giati ?
Apo thn mia men petageste na kraksete kapoion pou tha pei kati kako gia thn xwra auth kai na ton peite malaka, alla twra pou ginetia mia aplh suzhthsh giati den vgainete mpas kai peisete kanenan ? Ektos kai an den exete peistei oute esesi ( h merikoi apo esas ).
Enigouei , anti gia ta arnhtika pou exoume na poume emeis ( an kai me ekfrase polu to post tou necro ) , thelw na akousw mia sovarh antitheth gamhmenh apopsh.
Euxaristw.
pitchfork
31-08-2004, 15:23
Egw vevaia auto pou zhthsa einai apo ta atoma ta opoia uposthrizoun auta pou yposthrizoun na vgoun kai na poun kai to giati ?
Apo thn mia men petageste na kraksete kapoion pou tha pei kati kako gia thn xwra auth kai na ton peite malaka, alla twra pou ginetia mia aplh suzhthsh giati den vgainete mpas kai peisete kanenan ? Ektos kai an den exete peistei oute esesi ( h merikoi apo esas ).
Enigouei , anti gia ta arnhtika pou exoume na poume emeis ( an kai me ekfrase polu to post tou necro ) , thelw na akousw mia sovarh antitheth gamhmenh apopsh.
Euxaristw.
Πήραμε το euro 2004
eyeamflesch
31-08-2004, 15:30
P.S:Alitheia pios allos laos einai toso tragikos wste na pisteuei oti einai apo allo galaxia?
kanenas laos de pistevei oti einai apo allo galaksia. mia parea to pistevei.
Olakeri i fyli twn Bozo to pisteBei oti proerxontai apo ton Sirio pantws.
Enigouei , anti gia ta arnhtika pou exoume na poume emeis ( an kai me ekfrase polu to post tou necro ) , thelw na akousw mia sovarh antitheth gamhmenh apopsh.
Euxaristw.
De xero an einai sovari, oute kan an einai apopsi auta pou tha po, mias kai de theoro oti oi Ellines einai pio gamatoi apo tous allous, alla ta epixeirimata pou tha paratheso tha borousan na sunigorisoun uper autis tis apopsis isos.
Eimaste mia xora me 10 ekatommuria katoikous. Einai autonoito apo ton kathena apo ta 6 disekatommuria ton anthropon oti oso pio pollous exei ena ethnos, toso pio eukolo einai na kanei kati megaleiodes. E loipon auta ta 10 ekatommuria exoun kataferei na vriskontai sto proskinio sxedon se opoiondipote tomea tis zois parolo pou alles xores me megalutero pluthismo den exoun tis idies diakriseis. To mono sigouro einai oti den eimaste anoteroi apo olous tous allous, kathos uparxoun polla akoma krati paromoia me tin Ellada pou exoun kataferei perissotera apo emas. Alla pisteuo oti eimaste se mia sxetika kali thesi gia tin katastasi mas.
Ston athlitismo, mazi me tin Finlandia eimaste oi mones 2 toso mikres xores pou exoun diorganosei Olumpiakous Agones, exoume omada sta dimofilestera athlimata opos to podosfairo, to basket kai to volley, alla kai o stivos pou einai se arketa upsilo status (nai, pleon kai to podosfairo :D ) kai me sunexomenes diakriseis se merika apo auta.
Episis eimaste mia xora pou exei bei stin Europaiki Enosi kai malista se mia xroniki stigmi pou itan mono megathiria tis Europis opos i Italia kai i Germania gia paradeigma. H xora mas, to xoma pou patame diladi, einai apo ta pleon omorfa ston kosmo, an kai de sufmono me autous pou upervalloun, entaxei, den eimaste ki i pio omorfi xora ston kosmo, alla sigoura ta nisia mas gia paradeigma einai apo tis perioxes pou erxontai apo olo ton kosmo na episkeftoun.
Oson afora tis texnes, tis teleutaies dekaeties exoume meinei arketa piso, kathos oute ston kinimatografo exoume tipota na epideixoume, oute stin mousiki, oute stis pio "kales" texnes opos i gluptiki, i zografiki ktl. Alla entaxei, to paleuoume siga siga. :P
Oson afora to xaraktira ton anthropon pou apartizoun tous Ellines, den eimaste o kaluteros laos ston planiti, alla sigoura eimaste polu makria apo tous xeiroterous. Pote stin istoria mas den exoume ginei genoktonoi, kataktites kai kafroi, an exairesoume ton M. Alexandro, o opoios toulaxiston ekpolitize osous laous kataktouse. Vevaia etsi mas sumferei na leme, opos meta apo 500 xronia borei na lene oi Amerikanoi pou pleon o kosmos tha exei pantou McDonalds kai Coca Cola. Telos panton, tin eugeneia ton Ellinon se xenous ego prosopika den tin exo sunantisei se osous laous me atoma ton opoion exo sunanastrafei esto kai ligo, episis eimaste diasimoi gia tin filoxenia mas kai tin "exo kardia". Ntax, opoios trexei na arxisei na ta amfisvitei kai auta einai profanos antidrastiko atomo, kathos einai liges oi fores pou mia fimi gia enan lao einai lathos... Einai eureos gnosto oti oi Evraioi einai fragkofoniades, pisteuo uparxoun kai edo mesa atoma ikana na to amfisvitisoun. Variemai na leo polla se auto to thema, alloste ligo polu oloi xeroume ta proterimata kai ta meionektimata ton Ellinon ston xaraktira tous.
Tora an kapoios thelei na milisei kai gia to diaxroniko tis upothesis (Sto Civilization gia paradeigma pairneis upsilo skor an eisai megalos kai tranos stin arxaiotita ki as eisai gia to boutso sta nea xronia) einai sigouro oti tha vrei polla oraia kai axiozileuta stin istoria ton Ellinon.
An thelete kai tin apopsi mou (giati ola ta parapano einai alitheia alla de me peithoun gia kati), auti einai pos oi Ellines xehorizoun anamesa sta 200 kai pleon ethni pou uparxoun auti ti stigmi ston kosmo, alla den einai oi monoi... einai lupiro na nomizeis oti eisai anoteros apo tous allous, akoma ki an anikeis stous 4-5 pio arxaious laous tis istorias. Alla akoma ki an eimastan stis protes theseis, i stin proti thesi, de mapasxolei katholou, oute emena me kanei kalutero san anthropo kati tetoio, oute kanenan apo tous sunanthropous mou, opote kai pali tha antimetopiza ton opoiondipote san enan anthropo, anexartita apo tin katagogi tou. Ase pou einai ilithio na sumpatheis perissotero kapoion epeidi sou moiazei sta xaraktiristika perissotero. Apo mesa, oloi aprovleptoi einai.
Η μόνη μου διαφωνία είναι στην ευγένεια, όχι απέναντι στους ξένους αλλά στους γύρω μας. Και κυρίως στον επαγγελματικό χώρο.
Στη τεχνολογία, πάντως, σιγά σιγά στεκόμαστε στα πόδια μας, αλλά τα περισσότερα ταλέντα αναγκάζονται να αναζητήσουν καρριέρα στο εξωτερικό.
eyeamflesch
31-08-2004, 16:53
Idi yparxei Coca Cola solon ton kozmo, syntoma kai McDs.
Den uparxei se OLON ton kosmo. Sto xorio tis manas mou exei mono Epsa.
ManWhoSoldTheWorld
31-08-2004, 21:17
tha simfwnisw me ton Fixxxer kai tha prosthesw oti polles fores akoume gia diafores anakalipseis kiriws ston tomea tis iatrikis kai tis viologias pou exoun ginei apo ellines eite stin ellada (panepistimio kritis pollakis) eite sto ekswteriko apo ellines. Entaksi de kserw sigritika me tous amerikanous i me tous germanous se ti pososto paizoume simantiko rolo stis epistimes omws einai simantiko na akous oti ellines thriamvevoun se afton ton tomea kai idiaitera mesa sta ellinika panepistimia.teleftaia anakalipsi itan gia ton io tou aids mia polu vasiki pliroforia pou anamenetai na kanei ta kainourgia farmaka polu perissotero apotelesmatika stin epivradinsi tis ekseliksis tou. Akoma einai polu vasiko to oti iparxoun polloi ellines pou diaprepoun sto ekswteriko. Den kserw an to paradigma tis amerikis borei na thewithei egkuro kathoti polloi metanastes tis dekaetias tou 50-60 vrikan efkairies ekei kathws prosferotan i epoxi, alla kai stin agglia - germania simvainei to idio.
eyeamflesch
31-08-2004, 22:41
Den uparxei se OLON ton kosmo. Sto xorio tis manas mou exei mono Epsa.
Isws na min einai sto xarti.
necropethamenos
01-09-2004, 08:34
Enigouei , anti gia ta arnhtika pou exoume na poume emeis ( an kai me ekfrase polu to post tou necro ) , thelw na akousw mia sovarh antitheth gamhmenh apopsh.
Euxaristw.
De xero an einai sovari, oute kan an einai apopsi auta pou tha po, mias kai de theoro oti oi Ellines einai pio gamatoi apo tous allous, alla ta epixeirimata pou tha paratheso tha borousan na sunigorisoun uper autis tis apopsis isos.
Eimaste mia xora me 10 ekatommuria katoikous. Einai autonoito apo ton kathena apo ta 6 disekatommuria ton anthropon oti oso pio pollous exei ena ethnos, toso pio eukolo einai na kanei kati megaleiodes. E loipon auta ta 10 ekatommuria exoun kataferei na vriskontai sto proskinio sxedon se opoiondipote tomea tis zois parolo pou alles xores me megalutero pluthismo den exoun tis idies diakriseis. To mono sigouro einai oti den eimaste anoteroi apo olous tous allous, kathos uparxoun polla akoma krati paromoia me tin Ellada pou exoun kataferei perissotera apo emas. Alla pisteuo oti eimaste se mia sxetika kali thesi gia tin katastasi mas.
Ston athlitismo, mazi me tin Finlandia eimaste oi mones 2 toso mikres xores pou exoun diorganosei Olumpiakous Agones, exoume omada sta dimofilestera athlimata opos to podosfairo, to basket kai to volley, alla kai o stivos pou einai se arketa upsilo status (nai, pleon kai to podosfairo :D ) kai me sunexomenes diakriseis se merika apo auta.
Episis eimaste mia xora pou exei bei stin Europaiki Enosi kai malista se mia xroniki stigmi pou itan mono megathiria tis Europis opos i Italia kai i Germania gia paradeigma. H xora mas, to xoma pou patame diladi, einai apo ta pleon omorfa ston kosmo, an kai de sufmono me autous pou upervalloun, entaxei, den eimaste ki i pio omorfi xora ston kosmo, alla sigoura ta nisia mas gia paradeigma einai apo tis perioxes pou erxontai apo olo ton kosmo na episkeftoun.
Oson afora tis texnes, tis teleutaies dekaeties exoume meinei arketa piso, kathos oute ston kinimatografo exoume tipota na epideixoume, oute stin mousiki, oute stis pio "kales" texnes opos i gluptiki, i zografiki ktl. Alla entaxei, to paleuoume siga siga. :P
Oson afora to xaraktira ton anthropon pou apartizoun tous Ellines, den eimaste o kaluteros laos ston planiti, alla sigoura eimaste polu makria apo tous xeiroterous. Pote stin istoria mas den exoume ginei genoktonoi, kataktites kai kafroi, an exairesoume ton M. Alexandro, o opoios toulaxiston ekpolitize osous laous kataktouse. Vevaia etsi mas sumferei na leme, opos meta apo 500 xronia borei na lene oi Amerikanoi pou pleon o kosmos tha exei pantou McDonalds kai Coca Cola. Telos panton, tin eugeneia ton Ellinon se xenous ego prosopika den tin exo sunantisei se osous laous me atoma ton opoion exo sunanastrafei esto kai ligo, episis eimaste diasimoi gia tin filoxenia mas kai tin "exo kardia". Ntax, opoios trexei na arxisei na ta amfisvitei kai auta einai profanos antidrastiko atomo, kathos einai liges oi fores pou mia fimi gia enan lao einai lathos... Einai eureos gnosto oti oi Evraioi einai fragkofoniades, pisteuo uparxoun kai edo mesa atoma ikana na to amfisvitisoun. Variemai na leo polla se auto to thema, alloste ligo polu oloi xeroume ta proterimata kai ta meionektimata ton Ellinon ston xaraktira tous.
Tora an kapoios thelei na milisei kai gia to diaxroniko tis upothesis (Sto Civilization gia paradeigma pairneis upsilo skor an eisai megalos kai tranos stin arxaiotita ki as eisai gia to boutso sta nea xronia) einai sigouro oti tha vrei polla oraia kai axiozileuta stin istoria ton Ellinon.
An thelete kai tin apopsi mou (giati ola ta parapano einai alitheia alla de me peithoun gia kati), auti einai pos oi Ellines xehorizoun anamesa sta 200 kai pleon ethni pou uparxoun auti ti stigmi ston kosmo, alla den einai oi monoi... einai lupiro na nomizeis oti eisai anoteros apo tous allous, akoma ki an anikeis stous 4-5 pio arxaious laous tis istorias. Alla akoma ki an eimastan stis protes theseis, i stin proti thesi, de mapasxolei katholou, oute emena me kanei kalutero san anthropo kati tetoio, oute kanenan apo tous sunanthropous mou, opote kai pali tha antimetopiza ton opoiondipote san enan anthropo, anexartita apo tin katagogi tou. Ase pou einai ilithio na sumpatheis perissotero kapoion epeidi sou moiazei sta xaraktiristika perissotero. Apo mesa, oloi aprovleptoi einai.
ok, twra diavase to post mou sti proigoumeni selida kai pes mou giati eksakoloutheis na pisteveis oti "eimaste pio evgenikoi apo allous" i to gegonos oti oi athlitikes epityxies anikoun se oooolous mas k.o.k.
den to lew epithetika to parapanw, just asking
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