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The_Painless
22-06-2004, 02:20
Συμφωνείτε;
Αφορμή η συζήτηση με Kveld με θέμα "τι κρίμα που τα παράτησα" και "τι κρίμα που δεν άρχισα ποτέ".
Πώς είναι η φάση; Ή το 'χεις ή δεν το 'χεις που λένε (ναούμε); Και πόσο πιθανό είναι να γουστάρεις και να αφοσιωθείς σε κάτι -είτε μιλάμε για πιάνο είτε για κιθάρα ή για μπάσο ή whatever- σε σχετικά προχωρημένη ηλικία;
ManWhoSoldTheWorld
22-06-2004, 02:22
krima pou den ematha piano.oxi oti tha to antallaza gia tin kithara alla thelw na mathw piano sa trellos. isws to kanw mazi me mathimata gia ptixio mousikis kathoti de kserw notes :oops:
The Butcher
22-06-2004, 02:23
thewritika symfwnw praktika de kzerw gia diaforous logous.
k ayta pou lene gia talento klp min ta polyakoute an thelete tin apopsi mou.
morphine
22-06-2004, 02:29
:hippy: metal
chris_boss
22-06-2004, 02:32
fusika kai paizei rolo i ilikia kai to talento.
alla auto de simainei oti den mporeis na ma8eis.
Skeftomoun tis proalles to ekshs:
Otan eisai anhlikos akoma, exeis TON apeiro xrono, KAMIA ypoxreosh (pou sou pairnei pano apo mish ora), alla kai KATHOLOU myalo gia na ton aksiopoihseis.
Otan pleon kseperaseis ta 18, arxizeis na anaptysseis pleon egkefalo, na syneidhtopoieis ti sto diaolo thes na kaneis sth zoh sou, na apoktas SOVARA endiaferonta (aka de vlepeis mpala pleon), alla ayth th fora den exeis xrono oute na klaseis.
Tha thela na kano ena soro pragmata pou niotho oti den tous afierosa arketo xrono otan hmoun mikroteros, shmantikotero eks'ayton h mousikh (thelo na kano liga mathimata piano kai POLLA kitharas) kai tha frontiso na to kano me thn proth eykairia. An erthei pote.. elpizo..
silencerius
22-06-2004, 03:38
fusika kai paizei rolo i ilikia kai to talento.
alla auto de simainei oti den mporeis na ma8eis.
mporeis na entrifiseis ligo s'auti tin apopsi?
dioti me endiaferei
Egw ksekinisa twra kithara, exei kana 5mino (20 eimai), ntaksei talento den exw alla exw apisteuti oreksi gia to organo. Thimamai elega arketo kairo prin "ti kala pou tha tan na kserw kithara" kai elega oti apokleietai na mathw pote. Mexri pou eida ena filo pou emathe monos tou kai paizei poly kala kai arxisa na to skeftomai. Den exw blepseis fisika na ginw o kaliteros kitharistas kai mlkies, apla thelw na paizw aksioprepws kommatia pou m'aresoun. Pros to paron monos mou, alla skeftomai se kana xrono or so pou tha beltiwthw apo apopsi taxititas/texnikis (logika) na mathw kai mousiki, h/kai na paw se daskalo.
Metanoiwsa pou de me steilan mikro na mathw kithara, dioti twra katalabainw poso wraia einai na ksereis kapoio organo.
Eixa paei na mathw piano alla mou fainotan apisteuta bareto (an kai twra m'aresei) kai to paratisa stous 3 mines.
Kai synexizo apo to prohgoumeno post mou, giati exo empneysh.
... paromoia fash me to mathima ths mousikhs sto sxoleio (to opoio epishs skeftomoun tis proalles). Sto gymnasio kaname mousikh, mathainame na diavazoume partitoura, meletousame istoria mousikhs, akougame klassika kommatia.. POS STO DIAOLO NA EKTIMHSEIS KATI TETOIO OTAN EISAI 13 KAI 14??
Thymamai ton typo na mas vazei Bach kai na xanetai ston kosmo tou ki emeis eite na xasmouriomaste apo tis "malakies" pou akougame, eite na ton douleyoume pou ekane les ki eixe piei amfetamines.
Fysika sto lykeio to mathima ths mousikhs de didasketai. Alla didaskontai ta thriskeytika, h istoria kai TO MOUNI THS MANAS TOUS.
chris_boss
22-06-2004, 03:45
kapoios pou exei talento ma8ainei grigorotera kai mporei na ftasei se upsilotero epipedo apo kapoion pou den exei fusiki klisi an upo8esoume oti douleuoun to idio.
silencerius
22-06-2004, 03:48
basika sto thema tis ilikias ennoousa oti ithela na anaptikseis ti skepsi sou
ton rolo tou talentou ton katalabainw kai pisteuw einai arketa/poly basikos apo ena simeio kai meta.
chris_boss
22-06-2004, 03:52
basika sto thema tis ilikias ennoousa oti ithela na anaptikseis ti skepsi sou. exw tin ais8isi oti i mousiki einai san ti glwssa pou an ti ma8eis apo mikros ginetai ktima sou kai ti xrisimopoieis uposuneidita.
ki egw megalos arxisa na paizw dustuxws.
Tha kano thread "Pote den einai noris" kai tha valo ta posts mou ekei giati oloi me agnooun :( :( :(
silencerius
22-06-2004, 04:01
molis ithela na grapsw oti simfwnw 100% m'auta pou les blitz alla eida to post tou chris_boss
paromoies katastaseis exw zisei ki egw
Thimamai 10-11 xronwn ksekinisa piano dioti eixa bgalei monos ta kalanta twn xristougennwn se ena mikro armonio pou eixa kai legontas me tin parea ta kalanta me sinodeia organou pirame perissotera fragka.
Kai paratisa to piano ektos twn allwn epeidh eprepe na kobw ta nixia mou kathe mera. :?
ntaks me tetoia anwrimotita ti skata na kaneis
tespa
paradeigmata atalantwn mousikwn pou kataferan na kanoun kati exei kanenas?
i mousikwn pou ksekinisan megaloi?
silencerius
22-06-2004, 04:03
pantws einai apogoiteutiko na blepeis oti px, o hammet sta 19 tou ebgale ta solo tou kill em all,
h o vai sta 18 tou mpike sti banda tou Frank Zappa..
ki esy eisai 20 kai ksineis t@@sou
chris_boss
22-06-2004, 04:06
kala se kamia periptwsi den ennow oti den mporeis na kaneis tpt an 3ekiniseis megalos. aplws duskolo na gineis solistas an paizeis klasiko organo, 3erw gw. alla gia pop/rock/metal i "istoria" exei dei3ei oti pio polu metra i empneusi.
morphine
22-06-2004, 04:11
MOTORXENT
silencerius
22-06-2004, 04:14
:?:
Ennoouse oti mousikoi me thn empneysh kai to talento ton Motorhead eginan firmes. Opote exeis elpides akoma ki an exeis ena xeri, IQ < 70 kai eisai 62 xronon.
silencerius
22-06-2004, 04:20
basika de me noiazei na "ginw" kati.
na mathw na paizw thelw
Edo tha se apogohteyso. Kapoioi den emathan na paizoun pote... mhn ta thes ola dika sou.
Pao gia ypno tora. Skaste ligo mexri na fygo :P
chris_boss
22-06-2004, 04:22
an nomizeis oti o xamet 3erei na paizei, nai tote exeis polles elpides
silencerius
22-06-2004, 04:31
kathenas auto pou goustarei
ntaksei den exw blepseis na thelw na paiksw kommatia tou malmsteem i tou van halen
ta akousmata mou thelw na paizw, logiko loipon den einai na pairnw paradeigma apo auta?
(e kai edw pou ta leme ama grafeis solo san tou One kai tou Fade to Black ligo diskolo na min kses na paizeis? an kanw lathos diorthose me i pes mou pou diafwneis anyway, eilikrina)
ektos autou pisteuw o hammett einai arketa anagnwrismenos kitharistas. tespa, liga kserw apo kitharistikis kritikis opote den milaw.
tespa to thread den leei an mporei na mathei o silencerius kithara :P move on :)
O Hammett sigoura den einai asxetos. Den einai koryfaios men, alla einai mia xara kitharistas gia to styl tou. Ta solos ton Metz den einai kati tromero apo texnikhs/mousikhs apopshs, alla ta theoro poly eksypna.
To solo tou One to eixa theopoihsei ki ego kapote, otan ksekinhsa na paizo. An ftaseis se kapoio epipedo rythmikhs kai kaneis merika mathimata lead, de tha dyskoleyteis idiaitera na to vgaleis :)
To solo tou FTB malista. An kai pali o tropos pou solarei o Kirk den einai idiaitera prototypos, ayto to solaki apla spernei.
An ksekinhseis na paizeis kithara exontas sto myalo sou tis kithares ton Metz pantos (gia arxh toulaxiston), tha pas mprosta ;)
Meyaleleth
22-06-2004, 09:11
fysika pote den einai arga!!! jekinhsa na ma8enw mpaso sta 20 mou.Kai mporw na pw pws parolo pou mou hr8e ligo palouki sthn arxh , ta katafera mia xara! To mousiko mou parel8on prin autou htan armonio sto opio epeza mono ta kalanta ka8e xrisotugena muahaha.
eyeamflesch
22-06-2004, 09:56
FORCA KUOLEMICHA!
necropethamenos
22-06-2004, 10:09
Prwton, paizei SOVARO rolo sti fasi to "afti". Diladi i dynatotita na antiliftheis me akriveia kathe ksexwristo tono. I pio apli kai proxeiri methodos gia na deis an afto to katexeis einai na sou paiksoun aples melwdies sto piano kai taftoxrona na tis tragoudiseis. An esy nomizeis oti ta les ola swsta kai oi alloi travane ta mallia tous, e, den eisai kai o pleon katallilos gia na matheis mousiki, se opoiadipote ilikia.
nai, to "afti" eksaskeitai me diaforous tropous. to thema einai oti polles fores einai aniati i periptwsi. kai oti AKOMA kai an to katafereis tha exeis afierwsei xronia apo ti zwi sou gia kati pou kapoios allos exei by default.
kai episis EKEI paizei rolo i ilikia. sovaro rolo omws. ektos apo tin ek genetis klisi sou i oxi (an dextoume oti yparxei kan), afta ta pragmata diamorfwnontai oso megalwneis.
Kata ta alla ontws pote den einai arga gia na matheis ena organo.
Egw mathaina piano apo ta 7 mou, eftasa 2i mesi kai pote de mou arese idiaitera ektos apo otan epaiza dika mou pragmata. I skliri alitheia einai oti xwris afto de tha iksera kithara twra (oxi oti kserw e :p) kai kyriws de tha eixa antilipsi sto thema mousiki.
Me alla logia: prepei na paradextw oti i mana mou eixe dikio pou me estelne sto wdeio kai mou elege "kapoia mera tha to fxaristiesai".
fusika kai paizei rolo i ilikia kai to talento.
alla auto de simainei oti den mporeis na ma8eis.
mporeis na entrifiseis ligo s'auti tin apopsi?
dioti me endiaferei
Egw ksekinisa twra kithara, exei kana 5mino (20 eimai), ntaksei talento den exw alla exw apisteuti oreksi gia to organo. Thimamai elega arketo kairo prin "ti kala pou tha tan na kserw kithara" kai elega oti apokleietai na mathw pote. Mexri pou eida ena filo pou emathe monos tou kai paizei poly kala kai arxisa na to skeftomai. Den exw blepseis fisika na ginw o kaliteros kitharistas kai mlkies, apla thelw na paizw aksioprepws kommatia pou m'aresoun. Pros to paron monos mou, alla skeftomai se kana xrono or so pou tha beltiwthw apo apopsi taxititas/texnikis (logika) na mathw kai mousiki, h/kai na paw se daskalo.
Metanoiwsa pou de me steilan mikro na mathw kithara, dioti twra katalabainw poso wraia einai na ksereis kapoio organo.
Eixa paei na mathw piano alla mou fainotan apisteuta bareto (an kai twra m'aresei) kai to paratisa stous 3 mines.
Idia fasi me esena imoun file mou. Sta 17.5 me epiase na mathw kithara vlepwntas to cunning stunts twn metallica me skopo na mathw na paizw ta tragoudia pou mou aresan. Se pliroforw oti an pragmati sou aresei to organo ( pou ap'oti fainetai sou aresei poly) den tha stamatiseis ekei. Tha theleis na matheis olo kai perissotera. Afou kanw auto giati na min kanw to kati parapanw... Tha me thymitheis se kanena xronaki. Kai yp'opsin o prwtos xronos einai o pio krisimos otan mathaineis monos sou. To pan einai na min apogoiteuteis kai ta paratiseis. Vres kai kanenan allo sto epipedo sou gia na paizete mazi.
Auta apo emena.
The Charon
22-06-2004, 14:51
Pote Den einia arga aplws 8elei apeiro xrono mias kai h mousikh einai apeirh.
Yparxoun polla paradeigmata pou 3ekinhsan meta ta 20 tous sovara me thn mousiki p.x Alan Holdsworth , Scott Henderson , Shaun Baxter . Pou meta ginane idiofueies.Xarakthristiko tou Henderson pou otan htan sto panepistimio htan o koumpouras kai oloi oi ka8hghtes eixan aganakthsei.Pou na fantazontousan oti mia mera 8a ginotan kai ka8hghths sto GIT.Gamiseta.
Alla den paw makria vlepw ton adelfo enos kollitou mou pou xwris kanena mousiko background epiase ki8ara sta 17 kai mesa se 2 xronia exei skisei ta apanta apo Satriani,Malmsteen,klassikous,Jazz. kai ola me partitoures h' me auti oxi me tabs opws kanw egw.Twra 8a paei e3wteriko gia spoudes panw sthn mousiki.Alla ti ekane omws o magkas , 10hours/day.O xronos einia to 8ema , oso efesh kai na exei kapoios to vasiko provlima einai o xronos.
Arzachel
22-06-2004, 15:50
Prwton, paizei SOVARO rolo sti fasi to "afti". Diladi i dynatotita na antiliftheis me akriveia kathe ksexwristo tono.
simfono kai episis tha po oti opoios milaei gallika exei ena bonus gia to "afti" dioti i glossa oxinei thn antilipsi stous ixous,mporei na exalipsei provlimata arthrosis kai parafonias logo tou oti oi lexeis einai san askiseis orthofonias. afta apo mena.
StationEleven
22-06-2004, 16:19
pote den einai arga
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