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enitharmon
01-06-2004, 02:39
pote i epistimi kai i ereuna stamataei na prosferei kai katantaei anousia i stin xeiroteri aunanismos?

ennow:

kali i arxaiologia, alla kata poso einai simantiko na mathoume ti trofes etrwgan oi Gothoi i oi Aztekoi?

einai simantiko poses gynaikes eixe o tade vasilias i posa xronia kyvernise o deina?

kala ta mathimatika, alla ti noima exei na asxoloumaste me ti filosofia tous kai an 1=2?

wraithmare
01-06-2004, 02:44
gia allh mia fora apodeikyeis poso gynaika eisai
:D

HattoriHanzo
01-06-2004, 02:49
vasika ola exoun ena nohma kai oi trofes kai ta ma8hmatika alla den einai gia na ta syzhtas sto er oute sthn parea sou giati h praktikh xrhsh olwn aftwn oute oso endiaferousa akougetai einai oute leei kati se osous den exoun plhrh gnwsh.

Mitsmann
01-06-2004, 02:52
h erwthsh soy/skepsh soy xekinaei apo th logikh oti gia kapoia themata xeroyme hdh "polla" ara giati na xeroyme kai ti etrwgan oi Aztekoi p.x.

to thema einai oti o episthmonas panta ereyna me th logikh oti xerei liga kai tha prepei na ereynhsei perissotera....

polles fores ashmantes plhrofories opws trofh, xronia basileias kapoioy hgemona klp, odhgoyn se oxi toso tromeres "anakalypseis" oso to na xeroyme an oi Magias eixan bacon p.x. alla se erethismata poy epekteinontai ap to trapezi toys kai ftanoyn se politismika symperasmata...to pws droyse o kathe politismos fainetai panta ap tis kathimerines anagkes/praxeis toy klp... Megales praxeis opws tromeroi polemoi, fysikes katastrofes klp einai kalytero na lambanontai san gegonota kai oxi san symperasmata afoy htan "ektakta" gegonota...Kai s ayta ta gegonota ta apla pragmata opws p.x. h diataxh stratoy h to ti opla eixe p.x. o aplos stratiwths pali ayta einai poy soy dinoyn tis politismikes plhrofories gia na apokryptografhseis to parelthon soy..

paradeigma aplo to na xeroyme p.x. oti oi Spartiates osoi eixan apomeinei xtenisthkan kai loysthkan thn teleytaia nyxta prin thn telikh olikh exontwsh toys de leei kati idiaitero san gegonos (xtenisma klp) alla fanerwnei thn politismikh apopsh poy aytoi oi anthrwpoi eixan gia themata opws o polemos kai kyriws o thanatos.

Oso gia thetikes episthmes, mathimatika klp eimai apolyta pepeismenos oti den xeroyme oyte to 5 % opote psaxnoyme akoma...

Buddy Lackey
01-06-2004, 02:55
pote egine h "telikh olikh eksontosh" twn spartiatwn ?

Mitsmann
01-06-2004, 02:56
thn epomenh mera to prwi afoy pethanan kai oi enapomeinantes ap toys 300.


wp malakia xexasa na dieykrinhsw ennow Thermopyles....xexexexe

Silverwing
01-06-2004, 02:56
gynaika einai?

Ithilmir
01-06-2004, 03:07
bla, bla ,yadda yadda, simfwnw me ta perissotera kai variemai na epauksanw...

Oso gia thetikes episthmes, mathimatika klp eimai apolyta pepeismenos oti den xeroyme oyte to 5 % opote psaxnoyme akoma...

Mallon ennoeis fysikh, xhmeia klp.
Ta mathimatika tha eprepe na diaxwrizontai apo tis ypoloipes "thetikes " episthmes, kathws prokeitai vasika gia ena sinolo kanwnwn pou kataskeuase o pithikos ,pou emeis onomazoume anthrwpo, kai den yparxei tipota "krymmeno" apo pisw. Einai apla ena ergaleio.

HattoriHanzo
01-06-2004, 03:09
giati to les ithlimmir? e3hghsou na katalavoume k emeis.

totos571
01-06-2004, 10:11
exei kata kapoio tropo dikio giati sta mathimatika den isxyei ayto pou isxyei stis ypoloipes thetikes epistimes(paratirisi-peirama-diatiposi theorias klp)einai ena synolo kanonon pou kataskeyastike gia na mas boithisei na meletisoume problimata apo diaforous allous tomeis.

wraithmare
01-06-2004, 11:25
bla, bla ,yadda yadda, simfwnw me ta perissotera kai variemai na epauksanw...


bla, bla ,yadda yadda, simfwnw me ta perissotera kai variemai na epauksanw...

auta

alla oi gynaikes den ta katalavainoun

a re prepei na xanakontinoume thn alysida mou fainetai :D

freak brother
01-06-2004, 11:28
profanws gia na asxolountai mauta oi episthmones kapioi endiaferontai.. den se anagkazei kaneis na diavazeis gia to ti trwgan oi magias klp

marianna2525
01-06-2004, 11:38
Κάποιοι όντως ενδιαφέρονται για το τι έτρωγαν οι Μάγιας και οι ίδιοι αυτοί άνθρωποι αναρωτιούνται, γιατί εξιτάρονται κάποιοι άλλοι, όταν ανακαλύπτουν μια νέα εξίσωση.

necropethamenos
01-06-2004, 12:16
Ma tithetai thema synolikotitas tis gnwsis?

Mporei to se ti stasi katourouse o vasilias twn mesopotamiwn na min exei kammia simasia mono tou, alla kapoia stigmi, se kapoia erevna pou afora kati allo isws na apovei xrisimo.

Osa pio polla ksereis toso pio kala, giati toso pio poly mporeis na efarmoseis sysxetismous gia tin katanoisi tou epomenou thematos.

Pote epomenws den ksereis ek twn proterwn TI tha kataliksei na einai xrisimo (sto plaisio tis pio oloklirwmenis gnwsis enos thematos) kai ti oxi.

So you just gather everything!

freak brother
01-06-2004, 12:18
science has failed the world pou lene kai oi system of a down mouxauxa

wraithmare
01-06-2004, 12:47
San na epinoeis prwta to film kai meta thn camera :D

eyeamflesch
01-06-2004, 13:11
Mporeis na aradiaseis osa myria arnitika thes gia tin epistimi (egw prwtos tha kamw tin arxi) alla oi gastronomikies synitheies enos xamenou laou einai aneta endiaferouses eidika otan ftanoume sto section "hallucinogen food".

Oson afora tin istoria, einai dikopo maxairi. An thelei pote (i Istoria) na ginei antikeimeniki tha prepei na mas prosferei olakeri ti gnwsi tis alla apo tin alli yparxei kai to informational overload pou edw kai merikies dekaeties exei kanei aisthiti tin yparksi toy kai kathista ena problima pou epizita lysi.

Genika, i epistimi einai ena ergaleio opws ta perissotera "pragmata" (ylika, ennoies) pou mas peribaloun: mporoun na xrisimopoiithoun san oplo i san kapoio eBergIetiko ergaleio.

4vatar 0f Death
01-06-2004, 13:30
Ola e3artiontai apo to giati ta psaxneis e3arxhs...

Ean to kaneis giati 8eleis na ofelhseis (praktika) to twra tote osa les isxuoun.
omws to 95% twn episthmonwn den psaxnoune ta pragmata mono gia auto.
h gnwsh san gnwsh mporei na ginei kai autoskopos, se telikh periptwsh.

Oi 8etikes episthmes einai mia prospa8eia logikhs prosegkishs tou kosmou. oso kai na proxwrhsoun pote den 8a einai tpt kalutero apo prosegkiseis kai pote den 8a 3eroume ti sta alh8eia einai o kosmos. ara mexri na pe8anei o an8rwpos, san eidos, mallon 8a psaxnei akoma.

Apo thn allh oson afora thn istoria kai thn arxaiologia, to na 3ereis polles mikres anousies leptomeries boh8aei na deis pws o an8rwpos (den) exei alla3ei, kai na katanohseis ba8utera thn an8rwpinh fush, pragma pou nai men praktika einai kata polu axrhsto, alla polu endiaferon...

FIXXXER
01-06-2004, 14:03
Vasika emena me endiaferei akoma kai to an oi Aztecoi etrogan bacon kai Zwan kai pos xtenizan ta mallia tous oi mikroastes Egupties ton proastion kai an oi Ellines ton epaizan 5 i 10 fores tin imera. Apla periergeia. Kai de vrisko tipota kako sto na uparxoun anthropoi pou na ta psaxnoun ola auta. Episis, oson afora ta mathimatika, pote de boreis na stamatiseis... exoume pleon ftasei se simeio pou exoun vgei mathimatika ta opoia den efarmozontai se kanena fusiko fainomeno (akoma). To apeiro einai ena megalo problima akoma theoro, opos itan megalo problima i sunartisi tou Dirac prin oristei katallila, an kai apo merikous akoma theoreitai akuri sunartisi. Episis gamati itan i exisosi Schrodinger pou periegrafe tin pithanotita ena somatidio na einai se mia thesi tou xorou, xoris omos auto na einai entelos safes otan tin skeftike o Max. O opoios Max, tin kataskeuase giati polu apla tou zitisan na ekfrasei tin theoria tou me mia exisosi, kathos itan to must tis epoxis, e kai autos pige ekatse mia vdomada kai tin evgale o theos.

Raven Lord
01-06-2004, 14:05
η γνώση είναι το πιο σημαντικό αγαθό.-

Deggial
01-06-2004, 14:24
Πολλές φορές έχει τύχει να θεωρούμε κάποια γνώση άχρηστη ή περιττή ή άνευ εφαρμογής, ενώ μετά από μερικά χρόνια βρίσκουμε τελικώς μια πολύ καλή εφαρμογή της.

WoTaN
01-06-2004, 14:28
kali i arxaiologia, alla kata poso einai simantiko na mathoume ti trofes etrwgan oi Gothoi i oi Aztekoi?

einai simantiko poses gynaikes eixe o tade vasilias i posa xronia kyvernise o deina?




Periergia den exeis?


kala ta mathimatika, alla ti noima exei na asxoloumaste me ti filosofia tous kai an 1=2?


Mipws giati akonizete o nous sou?
Kata ta alla opos eipe o wraithmare sto proto tou post.

Deggial
01-06-2004, 14:33
Στην τελική, ποιό το κακό να ξέρεις για τις ομοφυλοφιλικές τάσεις στη νεκροφιλία της αγριόπαπιας; (κάποιος πράγματι ασχολήθηκε και έχει πάρει αντι-Νόμπελ γι'αυτό ) :P

enitharmon
01-06-2004, 19:30
kali i arxaiologia, alla kata poso einai simantiko na mathoume ti trofes etrwgan oi Gothoi i oi Aztekoi?

einai simantiko poses gynaikes eixe o tade vasilias i posa xronia kyvernise o deina?




Periergia den exeis?
gia to an etrwgan tis patates tous vrastes i tiganites? oxi
yparxoun alla pragmata na mathw gia ena lao kai prin diavasw gia to bacon, proxwraw kalytera se allo lao.



kala ta mathimatika, alla ti noima exei na asxoloumaste me ti filosofia tous kai an 1=2?


Mipws giati akonizete o nous sou?
Kata ta alla opos eipe o wraithmare sto proto tou post.
mipws o nous mou akonizetai me pragmatika provlimata?

ton wraithmare ton efage i "thetiki" skepsi kai den mporei na kanei koumanto oute ta lefta tou...

morphine
01-06-2004, 19:41
ektos apo to oti mporei na ma8eis kati teleiws asxeto to opoio na sou fanei xrhsimo argotera (to exw pa8ei ouk oliges fores) klp klp, emena mou dhmiourgh8hke h e3hs aporia: An de se endiaferei kati, giati na to diavaseis/ ma8eis? Na mas eleges px oti sth xhmeia se vazoun na ma8eis pragmata pou de 8a xrhsimopoihseis pote h pou de se noiazoun giati den exoun sxesh me to antikeimeno sou, na pw ok. An diavazeis/ ma8aineis omws gia th dikh sou kaula, poio to nohma na les oti sou dinoun perissoteres leptomereies apo oti prepei? Merikoi endiaferontai, gi'auto ekatsan kai ta epsa3an in the first place.

WoTaN
01-06-2004, 20:51
mipws o nous mou akonizetai me pragmatika provlimata?
Sigoura alla oxi mono.
Kamia fora i parapera skepsi dinei neous orizontes sto mualo sou.Pistepse me.

eyeamflesch
01-06-2004, 22:32
mipws o nous mou akonizetai me pragmatika provlimata?
Sigoura alla oxi mono.
Kamia fora i parapera skepsi dinei neous orizontes sto mualo sou.Pistepse me.

wRAIO APOfTHEgMA.

enitharmon
02-06-2004, 00:44
ektos apo to oti mporei na ma8eis kati teleiws asxeto to opoio na sou fanei xrhsimo argotera (to exw pa8ei ouk oliges fores) klp klp, emena mou dhmiourgh8hke h e3hs aporia: An de se endiaferei kati, giati na to diavaseis/ ma8eis? Na mas eleges px oti sth xhmeia se vazoun na ma8eis pragmata pou de 8a xrhsimopoihseis pote h pou de se noiazoun giati den exoun sxesh me to antikeimeno sou, na pw ok. An diavazeis/ ma8aineis omws gia th dikh sou kaula, poio to nohma na les oti sou dinoun perissoteres leptomereies apo oti prepei? Merikoi endiaferontai, gi'auto ekatsan kai ta epsa3an in the first place.
den paraponiemai, oti xanw tin wra mou diavazontas leptomereies pou de me endiaferoun, kanw kritiki stous epistimones pou trwne ti zwi tous (kai xrimata) ereunwntas kai anakalyptontas pragmata pou stin teliki einai anousia.

kai twra ksekinaei i syzitisi ti einai simantiko kai ti oxi....


oso gia ti ximeia o,ti mou mathainoun kalo einai (kai an de mou xrisimeusei sto epaggelma argotera, toulaxiston tha mporw na parw meros se kamia syzitisi), ektos apo tin kvantomixaniki, pou kalo tha itan na symfwnisoun prwta oloi se kati prin o kathe voithos sto ergastirio leei ta dika tou.

chris_boss
02-06-2004, 18:49
prox8es pou epina kafe suzitousa gia mol kai kanonikes sun8ikes

When Black Roses Bloom
02-06-2004, 18:55
Wotan wrote:


Kamia fora i parapera skepsi dinei neous orizontes sto mualo sou.Pistepse me.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Ok twra. Stamata na akous manowar kai akouse radiohead. Alla twra e?

Kain
02-06-2004, 19:02
mipws o nous mou akonizetai me pragmatika provlimata?
Sigoura alla oxi mono.
Kamia fora i parapera skepsi dinei neous orizontes sto mualo sou.Pistepse me.

dld to diko sou pleon egine disdiastato apo monodiastato?