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Se ligo kairo bgainei to neo Theater kai den exoume akousei TIPOTA!
MYSTIKOTHTA sto full.
Ti diaolo...
Otan ebgaine to SDoIT, to eixa akousei hdh 1,5 mhna prin... Kai twra TIPOTA. Oute MIA nota.
Akoma kai sto Scenes pali eixame akousei kati... kai twra T-I-P-O-T-A.
brrrr scary shit. Nomizw oti oi DT tha bgaloune diskara (pali) kai apla to kratane gia na pathoume oloi egkefalika teleytaia stigmh.
BTW na enhmerwsw oti bgainei kai to neo Modern Drummer me DVD, sto opoio paizei o Mike Portnoy me olh thn mpanta parea.
Ayta.
Buddy Lackey
02-09-2003, 04:52
o pornoys den eipe kati gia "classic hard rock/metal album" ?
Kala, o Portnoy eipe kai to SDoIT oti einai san LTE/Awake.... Go figure
Magellan
02-09-2003, 07:24
mipws ka8isterisei ka8olou?
koyremeno_aygo
02-09-2003, 11:40
edw bgainei to neo maiden se 6 meres kai exoume akousei 2 songs se olo to net stous theater 8a kollousame?anamenoume me agwnia
Dragonlord
02-09-2003, 13:47
apo ta liga fetina albums pou 8a agorasw,genika apo ta liga sygxrona groups pou parakolou8w akoma.to sdoit htan para3eno album.oxi apogohteutiko alla poly kapws.to kainourgio to perimenw pio ameso kai song-oriented alla ante na vgaleis akrh me tous theater.afou nai prezakia
Plaka plaka me auto pou eipes gia to SDOIT me evales na skefto mipos itan toso brosta apo tin epoxi tou pou tha to katalavoume to 2010. Les? Ba... alla kai pali pote de xereis. Sigoura den itan metrio pantos.
Anyway, i exelixi ton Theater kai istorika analoga deixnoun oti to 7o album tous tha einai entelos ANTE GEIA se sxesi me oti exoun kanei. An sunodeuetai apo mousiki ebneusi (giati den anisixo katholou?) tote tha milame gia aristourgima. H apla kano oneira...
Dragonlord
02-09-2003, 14:21
de nomizw oti thats the case.to periergo den einai aparaithta prwtoporiako/dysnohto klp.gia mena to deutero cd einai ena psiloklasiko theater suite enw to prwto ena tribute se groups pou goustaroun mesa apo to prisma twn theater.to glass prison se pantera,to great debate se tool kai to dissappear se radiohead.ta alla dyo den 3erw,pantws to misunderstood einai kommatara
Misunderstood einai 100% Theater kai deixnei gia mia akoma fora pos kati apla borei na einai apla teleio. Glass Prison exei kai arketa Metallica/Megadeth mesa... oso gia to Blind Faith, auto einai 100% Falling Into Infinity kommati...
oi dream theater exoun rendez vous me tin empneusi ka8e 2 xronia akribws.
Nai ontos.
WDADU 89
Images 92
Awake 94
Seasons 95 (oute kan album, tespa)
Falling 97
Scenes 99
Six Degrees 02
Exeis kanei didaktoriko stis arithmitikes proodous cancer?
To 6DOIT eixa na t'akousw kana tetramino kai to akousa prox8es. Mporw na pw oti mou arese polu perissotero apo otan vgike. Einai polu pi8ano na to katalavoume to 2010. Sigoura, einai oti pio akraio kallitexnika exoun vgalei ews simera.
To epomeno album sigoura 8a einai ena vima mprosta, opws allwste mas exoun sinithisei. Protimw pantws na to katalavw to 2020 para na goustarw trela molis vgei kai na to paratisw sta rafi argotera (an kai auto xlomo einai).
-Later
Magellan
02-09-2003, 18:26
To 6DOIT den itan oti kalitero pou exoun bgalei oi theater alla parola auta (gia mena) itan ena album pou eixe merika ekseraitika komatia (Misunderstood, disapear solitary shell) kai kapoia alla poli aksioprepi....
elpizw to kainourgio na exei eksisou wraia mousiki
Elfstone
03-09-2003, 00:06
Den kserw an yparxei mystikothta, pantws gia ena diagwnismo pou exoun sto site (http://www.dreamtheater.net), exoun vgalei oles tis shmeiwseis tous gia ena kainourgio instrumental tragoudi (opoios grapsei to pio omoio kommati me auto kerdizei!). Pantws as mh geliomaste...den yparxei periptwsh na vgaloun kako disko oi Theater...mono an to kanoun epithdes ;p
eixa tin entiposi oti to 6 degrees eixe vgei to 2001. alla mikri simasia exei. ta pes kai monos sou.
Einai polu pi8ano na to katalavoume to 2010.
pes mou oti kaneis plaka.
Pantws, vlepontas tipiskous san to fixxxer, koinws theaterades, na iperaspizontai me toso pa8os tous theater, mou dimiourgeitai mia apex8eia pros to group, xoris na simainei oti de mou aresoun stin pragmatikotita, i oti de 8a paro to neo tous album an einai kalo.
{NightStalker}
03-09-2003, 01:18
Ante na doume..Oi DT den eixan empneysh gt o JP eixe kopsei ta mallia :chef: :confused: Elpizw na einai kati analogo tou Images,alla mallon zitaw polla.Cancer sinexise na les mlkies kai tha deis ti ksylo rixnoun oi theaterades :D
Emena to SDoIT mou arese an kai den kinountan sto styl twn DT.Oso gia tributes tha psilodiafwnhsw.Den vlepw kamia sxesh me ta sygrotimata pou anaferate.To mono elattwma pou eixe htan oti den mporousan ola ta kommatia na perasoun to feeling tous para tin texniki tous artiotita.Anyway keep your fingers crossed..
sinexise na les mlkies kai tha deis ti ksylo rixnoun oi theaterades
se alles epoxes 8a apantousa "ax nai, spank mi nterti mpits" kai 8a xairomastan ouloi, alla ..........................
After Dark
03-09-2003, 01:27
Emena mou arese se megalo vathmo to SDOIT,me apotelesma na liwsei sxedon,kati pou p.x. den to exw kanei me to Falling Into Infinity.Kai de nomizw oti opoiosdhpote mporei na grapsei tetoia "rhxa" tragoudia(to akousame kai ayto!:eek: ) opws to Glass Prison h' to omwnymo.Se o,ti afora to kainourgio,egw eimai sigouros oti pali tha kanei aisthish,pali tha exei tragoudares,pali tha vgei nea genia groups pou tha theloun na tous mimithoun kai pali oi gnwstoi prog-opateres tha vgazoun afrous apo to stoma,eksymnwntas thn kathe mikrh prog mpanta ths pipas.
StationEleven
03-09-2003, 01:31
to SDoIT htan megalh apogohteush toulaxiston gia mena
elpizw to neo na einai kati sta epipeda tou awake/scenes
gia na karagoustaroume
symposium_lexotanil
03-09-2003, 02:54
ego to vrika sta diskadika
Nomizw oti oi DT tha bgaloune diskara (pali) kai apla to kratane gia na pathoume oloi egkefalika teleytaia stigmh
:eek:
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edaxi tous agapao tous thatera alla meta tin teleftea patata
kai gia n amhn mou prixete ta afta aplos leo oti o labriatikos avgos psofise skata foni xalase olo to disko kai o psonaras o drumer epeze oti eixere kai den eixere
meta apo to telfteo den perimeno na vgaloun kati kenourgio kai prototipo kai einai efkolos enooumeno apla kai xekathara tha einai enas diskos gia tin eklisia gai na mazevoun psila
pes mou oti kaneis plaka.
Kanw plaka...
Em vasika oti gamato upirxe sto Six Degrees upirxe logo tou Labrie, tou Jordan kai tou Petrucci vevaia...
After Dark
04-09-2003, 16:36
Enw oi Myung kai Portnoy ekanan liga???
E o Myung pote den itan kati to parapano, itan ektelestis apla, kai vevaia apsogos, kanenas de diafonei. Tora nomizo oti milame omos gia tin ousia, diladi gia to kata poso pigainoun brosta tin banda ta meli tis. Kai kata ti gnomi mou to Six Degrees eixe na deixei polla oson afora ta kitharistika meri (panta!!! O Petrucci einai o pio artios apo tous 5) ta fonitika kai ta meri ton pliktron... o Portnoy me exei xenerosei na sou po tin alitheia... den exelissetai to paiximo tou. Borei kai na kano lathos, ti na sou po, ego etsi to vlepo.
After Dark
04-09-2003, 16:44
Vasika o Portnoy exei ginei pio ousiastikos pleon.To xei paradextei oti pleon den kanei practising.Apodeiksh tou poso dinei vesh pleon sto paiksimo tou einai ta themata pou paizei sta OSI kai sto ep tou John Arch.
Twra,o Myung nomizw oti sxedon se ola ta Theater tragoiudia exei synthetikh syneisfora toulaxiston sth mousikh,ara de mporeis na to xarakthriseis apla ws ektelesth.kai ta themata pou paizei einai manikia gia ena meso bassista.
To SDoIT hrthe meta to Scenes to opoio einai ekplhktiko album kai h sygkrish metaksy tous einai anapofeykth. Sigoura to SDoIT tha fanei metrio otan akoma biwnoume to aftershock tou Scenes. Alla proswpika pisteyw oti htan h kalyterh apanthsh twn Theater meta to Scenes. Oi Theater tolmhsan kai peiramatisthkan, kai tha tous htan poly pio eykolo na bgaloun ena album san to Scenes, kai telika edwsan mia poly kalh apanthsh.
Oso gia thn fwnh tou LaBrie, sigoura exei xasei ligh apo thn ektash tou, etsi ginetai me tous mousikous genikotera, oi neoi mousikoi tha einai panta kalyteroi texnika, alla prepei na exoume oloi ypopsin to pws grafoun oi DT ta kommatia. O LaBrie den symmetexei energa, apla tou lene "tragouda se Eb" kserw gw kai sigoura tha duskoleytetai genikotera na prosarmozei thn fwnh tou. Ama akousete ta Mullmuzzler opou o LaBrie symmetexei sthn mousikh tha katalabete oti o antrwpos tragoudaei kommatia pou einai ftiagmena gia thn fwnh tou kai ta tragoudaei teleia...
O Mike paizei panta stous DT o,ti kserei kai den kserei, ayth einai h fysh ths mpantas kai apo thn allh den xreiazetai na akouseis thn mousikh tou gia na katalabeis oti o antrwpos ftanei se oria yperbolhs merikes fores. Apla to twrino tou drum kit an deis (kai to palio na eblepes pou leei o logos) tha katalabeis oti exei kapoio komplex me ta megethi :)
Ayto me ton diagwnismo einai ontws alhtheia, o Mike exei dwsei eikones apo ta charts tou tragoudiou, tonikothtes, metra, ta panta mesa... Kata enan tropo mporeis na akousei peripou ti tha einai to neo Theater... an to paikseis :p
BTW den nomizw Newsted oti oi Theater perimenoun ta dika sou psila gia na bgaloun lefta... Kai sthn telikh prwtou peis enan disko "patata" ante na dw ese
To SDoIT hrthe meta to Scenes to opoio einai ekplhktiko album kai h sygkrish metaksy tous einai anapofeykth. Sigoura to SDoIT tha fanei metrio otan akoma biwnoume to aftershock tou Scenes. Alla proswpika pisteyw oti htan h kalyterh apanthsh twn Theater meta to Scenes. Oi Theater tolmhsan kai peiramatisthkan, kai tha tous htan poly pio eykolo na bgaloun ena album san to Scenes, kai telika edwsan mia poly kalh apanthsh.
Oso gia thn fwnh tou LaBrie, sigoura exei xasei ligh apo thn ektash tou, etsi ginetai me tous mousikous genikotera, oi neoi mousikoi tha einai panta kalyteroi texnika, alla prepei na exoume oloi ypopsin to pws grafoun oi DT ta kommatia. O LaBrie den symmetexei energa, apla tou lene "tragouda se Eb" kserw gw kai sigoura tha duskoleytetai genikotera na prosarmozei thn fwnh tou. Ama akousete ta Mullmuzzler opou o LaBrie symmetexei sthn mousikh tha katalabete oti o antrwpos tragoudaei kommatia pou einai ftiagmena gia thn fwnh tou kai ta tragoudaei teleia...
O Mike paizei panta stous DT o,ti kserei kai den kserei, ayth einai h fysh ths mpantas kai apo thn allh den xreiazetai na akouseis thn mousikh tou gia na katalabeis oti o antrwpos ftanei se oria yperbolhs merikes fores. Apla to twrino tou drum kit an deis (kai to palio na eblepes pou leei o logos) tha katalabeis oti exei kapoio komplex me ta megethi :)
Ayto me ton diagwnismo einai ontws alhtheia, o Mike exei dwsei eikones apo ta charts tou tragoudiou, tonikothtes, metra, ta panta mesa... Kata enan tropo mporeis na akousei peripou ti tha einai to neo Theater... an to paikseis :p
BTW den nomizw Newsted oti oi Theater perimenoun ta dika sou psila gia na bgaloun lefta... Kai sthn telikh prwtou peis enan disko "patata" ante na dw esena agori mou na paizeis kapou kai na paizeis fysika kati kainourio kai prwtotypo... kai meta tha doume poios tha kanei mousikh gia thn ekklhsia :) Kai ayto den tha to elega se kapoion pou den exei estw kai tis dikes sou mousikes gnwseis. An exeis dhladh kai apo aytes giati mono to oti exeis gia nickname ton Newsted kai parallhla goustareis Theater kai na milas gia patates... einai kapws antifatiko.
Ayta.
Vasika de xero an to eipes gia kalo i gia kako to paradeigma tou paiximatos tou Portnoy sto OSI, alla ekei pera einai pragmatika ekpliktiko to paiximo tou... tora giati stous Theater paizei trikases kai gemismata me 5 xeria einai axion aporias... na mi miliso tora gia to paiximo tou Zonder sto proto Chroma Key kai sto Disconnected kai pathei koblex o Mike.
Auto pou eipe o Phoebus gia ti foni tou Labrie de to katalava... ego sinithos xero enas mousikos me tin exaskisi veltionei ti foni tou kai ftanei se alla epipeda, apo tin opera, mexri ton Freddie Mercury mexri ton Labrie. De nomizo oti exei xasei tin ektasi tou epeidi epilegei na mi tragoudaei san power metal pozeras opos as poume se kati simeia sta palia album.... ektos ki an eisai apo autous pou theoroun oti opoios piasei tin pio psili korona einai kai o kaluteros tragoudistis, opos dustuxos polloi stis meres mas...
Buddy Lackey
04-09-2003, 19:10
zonder > portnoy
genikws
...
Buddy Lackey
04-09-2003, 19:30
orea kai
peart > * ......
Alitheia an den epaize o Zonder pouthena allou ektos apo tous Fates Warning ti tha legate?
Buddy Lackey
04-09-2003, 19:32
to piases mpagasako to pame epeidi paizei stous warlord .-
After Dark
04-09-2003, 23:29
Vasika de xero an to eipes gia kalo i gia kako to paradeigma tou paiximatos tou Portnoy sto OSI, alla ekei pera einai pragmatika ekpliktiko to paiximo tou... tora giati stous Theater paizei trikases kai gemismata me 5 xeria einai axion aporias... na mi miliso tora gia to paiximo tou Zonder sto proto Chroma Key kai sto Disconnected kai pathei koblex o Mike.
To eipa gia kalo.Oti dinei vash sthn ousia kai oxi sth fanfara.An kai mas aresoun oi fanfares tou.
To thema Zonder Vs. Portnoy to xoume kourasei apisteyta kai variemai apisteyta nees maxes.Na piasoun ta prwta krya kai vlepoume.:cool:
H fwnh den einai daktyla, oute podia. Otan o tragoudisths pathei kati prepei na stamathsei na milaei entelws. Otan o LaBrie kanei tis periodeies gia 6 mhnes kserw gw logiko einai h fwnh tou na xalasei... Kai oxi ayto pou les me thn eksaskhsh Fixxxer einai poly grammiko, den einai etsi. Dhladh ama paizw egw 10 wres thn hmera kithara STANDARD tha ginw san ton Rusty Cooley e? Den einai etsi. Twra bebaia mpainei to thema ti einai ousiastiko practise... Alla tespa o LaBrie SIGOURA, kai ayto me dhlwseis dikes tou kai tou MP, kai tou JP, den symmetexei energa stis melwdies, 'h toulaxiston stis tonikothtes. Kai an mporesei telika sto studio na bgalei tis notes (me thn opoia katharothta stous stixous - kai gi'ayto exoun bgei ola ta eytrapela "death is the first dancing turtle" "watching mortality I mow the lawn" ktl ktl) alla live den ginetai.
Alla peran aytou mporeis na akouseis ta prwta demo tou To Live Forever pou tragoudaei o LaBrie kai tha ton akouseis san paidaki tou gymnasiou kai meta sta demos tou FII pou exei allaksei teleiws h xroia ths fwnhs tou. Oi fwnhtikes xordes einai kati pou xrhsimopoiei o tragoudisths STO FULL synexws, den einai opws ta daktyla. Etsi gia na katalabeis thn sygkrish, sto miso Scenes o LaBrie tragoudaei opws tha htan o Petruccakos na paizei sto miso Scenes 16a sto 225 kserw gw... Kai sou ypenthymizw pali kai tis synaylies... Exei kourastei APEIRA h fwnh tou, den mporei synexws na wthei thn fwnh tou sta oria.
Ayta, apla mhn nomizeis oti ton yperaspizomai, apla tygxanei na tragoudaw kai gw ligaki, kai h fysiologia twn fwnhtikwn xordwn einai entelws diaforetikh ap'ayth twn daktylwn. Den mporeis na kaneis sygkrish kai na les oti apla me practise ginesai kalyteros...
PHP
BTW sto thema twn drummers, o Zonder exei pia standard approaches sta drums px ta kontra tempo, to combo tripleta sto hihat-tampouro-tripleta sto hihat-tripleta sth mpota, ta double-times sta splash sta teleytaia metra... Eidika apo to Inside Out kai meta pragmatika apokta tetoio styl kai einai xarakthristikotatos... dhladh akous kai les "Aytos einai Zonder".
Genikotera omws den mporw na pw oti mporw na sygkrinw tous drummers, eidika otan milame gia toso ypshlo epipedo paiksimatos, edw oi Fates paliotera paizane Theater diaskeyes, kai o Mike hthele na paiksei sto tour DT/QR/FW se mia synaylia me tous FW olo to set... dhladh den yparxei diafora pisteyw sto paiksimo, dhladh ti einai pio dyskolo 'h psagmeno, apla sto writing style.
Sto mono pou mporw na pw oti o Zonder exei kalytero einai o hxos tou, ta piatinia tou akougontai TELEIA, eidika to hihat tou einai apisteyto. Kai fobero pou anaferthike to ChromaKey, o Zonder paizei APISTEYTA drums ekei, akous kai to paramikro xtyphma se otidhpote, eite tampouro, eite piatini eite mpagketes metaksy tous.
O Zonder sthn ousia exei syndiasei ta akoustika drums, me ta hlektronika pads pou exei. Epipleon kanei alla wraia kolpakia px pernaei apo phaser olo tou ton hxo... O Mike einai pio babouras, pio doublekick drummer, kai single strokes. Kai o hxos tou fainetai yperbolika TELEIOS kai poly poly crisp, eidika ta crash tou. H mpota tou einai xarakthristikotath, thn xtypaei kai kanei NTOUP, pws to lene. Kai to tampouro tou Mike einai paaara poly tight.... Genika h olh epeksergasia tou hxou tou apo ta pc tou kanei ta drums na akougontai poly mprosta kai nomizeis se shmeia oti einai kompiouteraki to atomo.
O Reinert apo thn allh einai enas drummer pou oute pads exei, oute treis kases... Ena aplo kit exei o antrwpos, ena tampouraki, 3 toms, 1 bathy, 2 crash, 1 china kai 2 splash... ante na exei kai kana bell kai kana china-splash... kai to hihat tou. Alla to atomo pairnei ayto to kit kai to ekmetalleyetai APOLYTA. Pairnei px to hihat kai bgazei ap'ayto o,ti hxo mporei na bgalei ena hihat. Paizei dipetalo kai kanei polla kolpa me subdivisions, dhladh apo kei pou paizei se ena metro 4/4 6hxa, to gyrnaei se 5hxa kai akougetai poly perierga... Se kamia periptwsh fysika den lew oti to atomo einai o ypertexnikos theos (dhladh ti na poun atoma opws o billy ward 'h o akira jimbo) alla exei ena approach sta drums pou den xreiazetai panw apo 6 tympana pou leei o logos. Kai ayto m'aresei s'enan drummer, na mporei na ekmetalleyetai 100% ton eksoplismo tou SYNEXWS.
Ayta, polla eipa gia shmera
Buddy Lackey
05-09-2003, 16:30
tyfla na xei o philthy taylor diladi
Aytos den einai drummer.
Zwo einai.
Buddy Lackey
05-09-2003, 16:54
kala afto to kserei kai o idios philthy "animal" taylor
zwa pou kopanane drums gg
mathematics in music sux big time.
Buddy Lackey
05-09-2003, 17:09
kai to "Mathematics" den tha vgei pote :dcry: :dcry: :dcry: :dcry:
ekei na phkseis/ete.
allo ennoousa.
Em Phoebus oraia ola auta pou les (ta misa diavasa vevaia giati apo drummers de xero tipota, mono oti mou leei enas filos mou drummer) alla de diafono os pros to writing style ton Theater i os pros to oti i diafora anamesa se Portnoy kai Zonder einai mono stin siggrafi kai sunthesi meron ton drums. Apla akou ton Labrie sto Once In A Livetime kai sto Images and Words kai meta akou ton sto Scenes, sto SDOIT kai sto Live Scenes... e nomizo einai eukolo na deis tin proodo tou, alloste de leo oti den kourazetai, se 10 xronia de tha borei na tragoudaei live opos tora, alla sto studio kanei polu kaluteri douleia tora, asxetos an tou lene na tragoudisei i oxi. Oson afora ton Zonder, o filos mou mou eipe na sou po oti sta Chroma Key paizei tis apisteutes ghost notes, se simeia pou einai apisteuto na katalaveis pos kai ti paizei, alla vevaia to ixitiko apotelesma einai teleio. Kai sumfono, afou vevaia mou exigise ti einai to ghost notes.
BTW sto thema twn drummers, o Zonder exei pia standard approaches sta drums px ta kontra tempo, to combo tripleta sto hihat-tampouro-tripleta sto hihat-tripleta sth mpota, ta double-times sta splash sta teleytaia metra... Eidika apo to Inside Out kai meta pragmatika apokta tetoio styl kai einai xarakthristikotatos... dhladh akous kai les "Aytos einai Zonder".
xmmm giati egw pisteuw oti to idio isxiei me ton Portnoy?
kapoios gnwstos mou pou asxolite me drums kamia10ria xronia mou exei pei oti an katseis arketo kairo kai meletiseis ton Portnoy tha katalabeis pos paizei.Exei stadar tropo paiximatos en antithesi me ton Zonder poy enw akougete eukolo auto poy pezei stin pragmatikotita den pezete an den exeis eksaskithei polla xronia...De xerw,den eimai kai drummer gia na kserw perisotera,alla thewrw oti o Zonder einai korufaios sto eidos tou.
Alitheia mono egw thewrw ton Cozy Powell best drummer ever?!?!
Fixxxer akribws, gi'ayto sou eipa oti o Zonder paizei poly akoustika opws einai ta ghost notes pou prepei na sygkentrwtheis sta drums gia na ta akouseis, diaforetika o allos nomizei oti einai meros ths babouras kai oti o Mike einai pio single stroke typos... oxi oti den paizei kai aytos polla ghosts apo dw kai apo kei bebaia...
H kataplhktikh douleia tou Zonder sto ChromaKey (akoma kai sta proswpika tou Matheos) einai ston hxo tou, apla akous TA PANTA, akoma kai to paramikro ghost pou leei o logos, to syrsimo ths mpagketas sto tampouro, to apalo tsik tsik sto hihat... apisteyth paragwgh. Ekei basika kanei th douleia tou o Zonder me poly hi tech eksoplismo sta mikrofwna ktl... Alla ama den einai kai to piatini, ama den einai kai o tropos pou to xtypas...
BTW theos s'ola ta drummistika kolpa einai kai o Gavin Harrison pou paizei sto In Absentia twn Porcupine Tree... Opoios drummer blepei as paei na parei to DVD tou, Rythmin Illusions... EPIKO.
The Butcher
06-09-2003, 00:30
Phoebus poly to courases me tous drummers!!!:cool:
O Zonder einai o agapimenos mou drummer all time, ton akouw k klaiw. Portnoy einai kavla...alla de xerw mwre, poly "mixanikos" drummer, akoma k ws pros ton ixo tou- ola einai ypervolika teleia, sa na tin kanei mixanima ti douleia me alla logia... O Zonder einai o pio synaisthimatikos drummer pou exei tyxei na akousw. THEOS!
Kala oson afora ta terata typou Reinert, Hoglan, Steve Flynn (aytos k an einai teras) ti na pei kaneis!!!
Porcupine Tree megalo sygrotima... Ki o drummer k o bassistas (de kserw an einai oi idioi se ola osa exw akousei) einai ontws teleioi!
kai to "Mathematics" den tha vgei pote :dcry: :dcry: :dcry: :dcry:
sad but true(...?) :dcry: :dcry: :dcry:
Buddy Lackey
06-09-2003, 00:45
kala o Steve Flynn epaize ta kalson tou pragmatika
kai nai afto pistevw oti to mathematics den tha vgei pote - polla sad faces.
Popo eixa meinei me ton Gavin Harrison tora prosfata sto live. Para polu artios.
Drums = Neil Peart
Meta to xaos. Kapou ekei mesa ksexorizoun oi Powell, Zonder, Hays, Randy Thrasher Foxxe kai oi roxales tou Portnoy
StationEleven
08-09-2003, 11:38
drums = richard christy , genne hoglan
apo EKEI kai pera to xaos...
:)
Dragonlord
08-09-2003, 13:06
drums = tympana
StationEleven
08-09-2003, 14:59
tympana = krousta
krousta = fyllo gia tyropita....
StationEleven
08-09-2003, 16:53
fyllo gia tyropita = aparaithto systatiko gia th tyropita
StationEleven
08-09-2003, 17:01
miam = ekfrash(epifwnhma) to opoio anaparagete kata thn ikanopoihsh ths peinas twn an8rwpwn
symposium_lexotanil
08-09-2003, 18:12
ppl = shit
shit = to kafe zoumi pou bgainei apo ton prwkto
StationEleven
09-09-2003, 00:26
to avatar "xakos" iswpedwnei...lol
Amnesiac.
09-09-2003, 00:37
xakos=parousiastis tis (opws kai na to kanoume) pio akraias mousikis ekpompis ston planiti
Amnesiac.
09-09-2003, 00:46
vairus = troumetalik mastourmpeitor, ritarntint varemeitor ent xakos gkroupi gouonampi.
episis vairous = fluffer.
daydreamer
12-09-2003, 23:41
For immediate release:
Dream Theater - Train Of Thought
Added on 09-12-2003
for immediate release:
Dream Theater's latest CD "Train Of Thought" is tentatively scheduled for release on November 11th 2003.
The track listing is:
As I Am
This Dying Soul
Endless Sacrifice
Honor Thy Father
Vacant
Stream Of Consciousness
In The Name Of God
Produced by John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy
Engineered by Doug Oberkircher
Mixed by Kevin Shirley
Dream Theater's 2004 World Tour will kick off in Manchester England on January 16th 2004
Από το
www.dreamtheater.net (http://www.dreamtheater.net)
Dragonlord
12-09-2003, 23:54
8eiko album
StationEleven
13-09-2003, 00:14
e auto einai copyright diko mou :p
Amnesiac.
13-09-2003, 01:44
dream theater i vana barba?
StationEleven
13-09-2003, 01:48
tsatziki h moustarda?
Amnesiac.
13-09-2003, 01:49
sigoura oxi moustarda.
StationEleven
13-09-2003, 15:50
keftedakia me saltsa kai tortelinia mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm auto efaga prin ligo g g g g g g
7 tragoudia? Malakia tha einai... tha exei mesa duo 15lepta, apo tria 10lepta kai duo 7,5lepta.... pao kai stoixima. Train Of Thought? What are they thinking? Telos panton. Mexri na vgei vlepoume.
Dragonlord
14-09-2003, 16:33
ontws,fantasou na xei ap'autes tis megales tis malakies typou metropolis pt.1,trial of tears,change of seasons,home.
..
Ela more etsi to leo giati otan vgei tha leo poso gamato einai kai poso adiko eixa, de to xereis to kolpo?!? Apla xenerosa giati perimena na kanoun ena album me 40 dilepta tragoudia, se antithesi me to proigoumeno diladi...
Dragonlord
14-09-2003, 16:38
lol nta3ei tote
Oraia, de tha fao ban. Ti glitosa. Na sai kala forums mastah ;)
Polu oraia pragmata.... stis leptomereies tou CD den eixa prosexei oti einai mixed by Kevin Shirley... i epistrofi meta apo to Falling Into Infinity, kai me mia polu kali paragogi sto Dance Of Death... kali fasi, gia na doume...
Vasika, kai ta SDOIT kai to Metropolis 2000 einai mixed by Kevin Shirley kai produced by Portnoy, Petrucci. Sto Falling eixe kanei kai tin paragwgi.
Einai? De thumamai kati tetoio... tespa de gamietai, theoro oti sto Falling eixan kai gamo tous ixous gia tin epoxi.
Elfstone
17-09-2003, 04:10
Eixan kai gamw tous ektos-epoxhs hxous ennoeis :)
Jeditraitor
17-09-2003, 11:08
Gia thn epoxh htan pentakatharos o hxos(akoma kai gia twra), kala leei o fixxxer...twra gia thn mousikh einai ypokeimeniko to thema.Emena pantws mou aresei, para poly malista...
Pragmatika o ixos tou Falling itan ektos epoxis... to kako me ta forum einai oti o kathenas leei oti thelei re gamoto, ligos fasismos de vlaptei.
Elfstone
17-09-2003, 23:53
Hmm, tha symfwnisw sto oti ligos fasismos de vlaptei (egw aneta tha katargousa ola ta reality - eipame eleutheria tou logou, alla kai ths malakias?). Sto forum pantws einai endiaferon na leei o kathenas oti thelei, de nomizeis? :D
Amnesiac.
18-09-2003, 00:03
ma fysika.
Poly xristianiko mou fernei to album... lete na kollhsan oi theater apo ton morse?
Elfstone
18-09-2003, 02:53
Anekathen amerikanakia htan opote na tous dw na dhlwnoun thriskous de tha ekplagomoun. Pantws apo mousikh apopsh, DT cant go wrong (ok mia fora mono, to emathan to mathima tous omws!)
Oi DT den nomizw oti exoun kinhthei kapote lathos mousika...
ennoeis to sdoit?
Oi DT den nomizw oti exoun kinhthei kapote lathos mousika...
ennoeis to sdoit?
To falling ennoei mallon...Gia mena to lathos tous einai to 6doit, katharo jamming kanane, den to polydoulepsan to disko...
Sto Falling pigan mousika lathos? Diladi pos akrivos? Ti akrivos to diaforetiko eixe auto to album pou den eixan ta alla, i to antitheto?
Sto Falling pigan mousika lathos? Diladi pos akrivos? Ti akrivos to diaforetiko eixe auto to album pou den eixan ta alla, i to antitheto?
Rwta ton elfstone...egw den exw provlhma me to Falling, me to 6doit kai to Metropolis pt.2 exw :D
StationEleven
18-09-2003, 14:54
to falling suckz opws kaito sdoit ola ta alla gamane kwlous
The_Painless
18-09-2003, 18:10
Aplws to Falling einai diaforetiko ap' o,ti eixan kanei mexri tote kai opws apodeix8hke, diaforetiko ki apo osa ekanan sth sunexeia. Den einai kai gtp... Mia xara diskaki.
emena, pou omologoumenws tous sixainomai tous DT, maresoun 1-2 kommatakia apto Falling. ineorea.
Peruvian Skies, Trial Of Tears, Lines In The Sand, Hell's Kitchen, New Millenium kai ta muala sta kagkela, kai de panaleteotithelete. Opoios einai koufos, de ta ektima.
To Falling einai to 2o kalytero theater!prwto einai to awake.-
Buddy Lackey
18-09-2003, 19:14
o elfstone mallon ennoei to "you not me" an de apatwmai.
kai to falling gamaei epi to pleiston enw exei kai tis soupitses sou .
StationEleven
20-09-2003, 14:33
to kalitero theater einai to xristougeniatiko cleaning out the closet ;)
Elfstone
20-09-2003, 18:18
Nai to Falling Into Stupidity ennow fysika. Oxi gia tis kommatares pou anefere o Fixxxer (sorry alla bliah! :P) alla sxedon gia ola ta ypoloipa. Htan kathara o diskos gia na piasoun thn kalh kai apetyxe patagwdws. Ola ta alla Theater ta thewrw theika.
Eleos.... na giati leo merikes fores peri fasismou sta boards... oso gamo ta paidia kai na eisai re Elfstone, ama les oti thelan na piasoun tin kali, ti na po, kala ase to Falling Into Stupidity, den exo sxolia gi auto, para mono na anafero oti einai o pio exupnos diskos pou exoun vgalei....
Magellan
20-09-2003, 20:09
poso iq???
Ligo megalutero apo to diko sou. Alla auto de se tima kai idaitera, dedomeno oti to Fallin einai apla ena CD ki esu eisai anthropos.
After Dark
20-09-2003, 21:56
To Falling einai apla poly kalo.Ta loipa einai aristourghmata.
To Falling einai diskara, den kserw giati o kosmos to snobarei...
Sygkekrimena mporw na milhsw gia ta kitharistika kai ta drumistika merh pou einai apo ta kalytera twn JP kai MP antistoixa... Ti solara einai ayth sto Take Away My Pain re paidia.... O Petruccos ta leei ola... OLA.
Ti na peis gia drums tou Hell's Kitchen?... kai tou New Millenium?
Ti na peis gia to apisteyto ala Holdsworth solo tou JP sto Trial of Tears...
Twra an kapoios bgei kai pei "kai ti na peis gia to hollow years kai to you not me" e ntaks, tha ton brisw. Oxi den einai oi epikoures, alla ayth h proseggish twn DT sth mousikh einai pou tous kanei ksexwristous. Tespa...
BTW to FII einai 80+ lepta diskaki, yparxei mpolikh mousikh mesa...
Dragonlord
21-09-2003, 00:34
vasika eiste kollhmenoi.ki emena maresei to fii,alla dld giati synergasthkan me desmond child sto you not me an oxi gia na piasoun thn kalh?epeidh h8elan na syn8esoun kati mazi tou gia na ekfrastoun?afou kai oi idioi oi theater to lene pws eixan dextei polles pieseis apo thn etairia gia pio emporiko hxo stis opoies enedwsan kai twra to exoun metaniwsei.ti na kanoume,auta einai gegonota.an sas aresei akouste to,nte kai kala prepei na einai antiemporiko?vgalane ena poly wraio diskaki me emporikh proseggish.ki egw protimw ta alla
Elfstone
21-09-2003, 00:44
Sorry Fixxxer, alla de nomizw pws exw adiko. H parousia tou Desmond Child ti sou leei? Ton Foibo (oxi auton ston forum :P) eprepe na kalesoun gia na tous grapsei tragoudi gia na peisteis? Kai se poious na grapsei tragoudi?? Stous Dream Theater pou pera apo theikoi mousikoi einai kai para poly kaloi tragoudopoioi. Ki auto fainetai fysika kai sto Falling, apla einai profanes oti dipla sta gnwsta eph grapsan kai tragoudia gia to radiofwno, mpas kai... Tha ksereis epishs oti sthn audition gia ta keyboards perasan KAI o Jordan Rudess KAI o Jens Johansson, alla thn thesh thn phre o Sherinnian sigoura logw ths prohphresias tou kai meta apo pieseis ths etairias. Akoma, h allagh tou logotypou. Apla an to Falling eixe kanei epityxia tha thrinousame ena megalo sygrotima (eides ti egine meta thn epityxia tou Black Album e? alla mallon esy de thrineis kai poly gia auto ;) ) Entaksei, gousta einai auta...
Dragonlord
21-09-2003, 00:57
mia xara ta eleges,tis malakies gia tous metallica ti tis h8eles..tespa mhn to kanoume ki auto to thread dance of death review.ama synexistei h metallicosyzhthsh edw 8a peftoun delete sta posts (dont say i didnt warn ya)
etsi gera me tsampouka oe oe oe \m/
Koitaxte, milate gia to FII pou ekeinh thn periodo epesan stous DT ola mazemena... Peran ths katastashs me thn diskografikh tous, pou ontws tous pieze gia kati pio emporiko (pou gia mena den enedwsan, ta kommatia pou thewreite (me e, eseis thewreite) emporika oi DT ta egrapsan apla giati EPREPE na yparxoun emporika me thn kakh ennoia kommatia ston disko, oxi giati ayta ta kommatia oloklhrwnan thn fysh tou diskou) kai anagkasthkan na baloun mazi me tis kommatares tous kapoia alla kommatia KATHARA KAI MONO GIA NA BGALOUN DISKO (diaforetika oi DT tha phgainan se allh diskografikh kai apo kei kai meta tha eixa alla trabhgmata...), o perissoteros kosmos kserei oti epipleon otan efyge o KevMo o Mike elege na dialysei thn mpanta, pethane o pateras tou JP ekeinh thn periodo alla KAI (kai ayto den to kserei o polys kosmos) h gynaika tou JP exase kai tous dyo ths goneis se aytokinhtistiko... genika o JP pou einai key songwriter sth mpanta perase poly dyskoles stigmes, kai genikotera h DT family... Egw tous anagnwrizw th magkia pou bgainan panw kai paizan ta kommatia tous sthn tour enw briskontan se tetoia katastash... anagnwrizw thn epaggelmatikothta tous pou otan paizane me ton Derek (o opoios einai underrated apo olous tous kollhmenous theaterades) EMENAN PANW STH SKHNH me ola to boo...
En katakleidi gia na mhn ksefeygw, to FII exei mesa DT classics. To oti exei mesa ena You Not Me 'h ena Hollow Years den shmainei oti einai gtp... H mpanta anagkasthke kathara na kanei tetoia kommatia gia na bgalei disko... twra ama apo kei kai pera mporeite na peite oti oi DT symbibasthkan to paron apodeiknyei to antitheto, kai oi DT kanoun dikes tous paragwges, ta Beartracks kai ta Little Bear studios einai ta 2a tous spitia pou leei o logos...
Ayta, polla eipa.
Kai epeidh o perissoteros kosmos anaferei to You Not Me (oxi edw,genikotera se ola ta forums) oti einai to xeirotero kommati as pate na akousete to You Or Me... Nomizw oti telika koitame poly tis tampeles, apla epeidh mphke to onoma Desmond Child kati trexei sta gyftika... Apla o kosmos prepei na anagnwrisei thn piesh pou dexthkan oi DT, pou prin 6 xronia paidia oi DT den htan prwto onoma, oute kane emporikoi den thewrountan, twra paw sto texas pou leei o logos kai akouw 3 kommatia DT... kai peite mou telika, antikeimenika koitwntas kata poso oi DT ypekypsan stis pieseis ths diskografikhs...
To mono pou kataferan na ginei einai na dhmiourghthei ena genikotera arnhtiko klima, toso me to album, oso kai me thn tour, oso kai me ton Derek, kai ton Shirley kai ton Terry Brown ton prohgoumeno paragwgo tous pou to 2000 tsakwthikane asxhma.... ntaks ti leme twra... tespa
Just enjoy the music,
pali polla eipa.
Dragonlord
21-09-2003, 12:15
egw pantws proswpika den tous katakrinw,eimai sigouros pws yphrxan logoi gia thn emporikh strofh sto fii.outws h allws kapote 8a kanane kai enan tetoio disko,ka8ws tous aresei na allazoun apo album se album..apla to oti vghke etsi meta apo piesh ths etairias einai anamfisvhthto gegonos pou to lene kai oi idioi oi theater.auto de shmainei pws den einai wraios diskos.
Sugnomi, eboriki strofi epeidi doulepsan me enan paragogo onomati Desmond Child se ENA kommati se ENA disko? Ego auto eilikrina den to katalavaino. Mallon to 90% pou akouge to You Not Me sto radiofono kai pigaine na agorasei to FII den katalavaine xristo apo auta pou akouge.... Alloste ithela na xera to Hollow Years ti kako exei os tragoudi? Tha borousan polloi tragoudopoioi na grapsoun tetoio kommati me tetoio refrain kai tetoio apisteuto artio paiximo stin kithara? Prosopika tous Theater tous paradexomai polu perissotero gia kati tetoia kommatia para gia kommatia tou stul Glass Prison... anywayz, Elfstone, ola auta ta peri logotupou kai Sherinian einai polu paidika. Pragmatika pisteueis oti upirxe esto kai ena atomo pou tha agoraze to FII epeidi epaize o Derek i epeidi eixan ena kainourio logotupo. Eleos, les kai milame akoma sto gumnasio gia ta logotupa, an einai dunaton.
Elfstone
22-09-2003, 01:46
Ok exeis dikio, den exei sxesh oute to logotypo (entelws tyxaia h allagh) oute o Sherinnian. To Falling einai o kalyteros diskos twn Dream Theater kai o Desmond Child den exei kammia sxesh me ton oro "emporikh epityxia". Sorry gia tous paidikous syneirmous mou :rolleyes:
Proswpika mou fainetai adynato na peis poios einai o kalyteros diskos twn DT... to na odhgoume ekei to thema einai lathos... Tespa.
Kai elfstone to na milas gia ton Derek, gia to pws mphke, gia to ti epaikse ktl to thewrw kathara abasimo, thn stigmh pou prepei na ksereis oti oi DT den tha dexontousan na paizoun me kapoion pou den goustarane.
O Derek einai kai gamw ta paidia, oxi giati exei tyxei na ton kserw kai proswpika, alla einai kai foberos mousikos, kai h syneisfora tou sth mousikh einai EMFANESTATH, akoma kai to ACoS, den einai ola apla hype... Tespa, apla na se enhmwrwsw oti sto DVD pou tha bgalei to Modern Drummer ton dekembrh o MP paizei polla kommatia apo to FII, giati APLA EXEI PAIKSEI APO TA KALYTERA DRUMS THS ZWHS TOU EKEI...
To idio fysika kanei kai sto LDT... exw poly kairo na dw ton MP na paizei px to 5/8-7/8 shmeio tou Metropolis... Tespa, ayta
Nomizw oti arketa epektathikame sto FII, mporoume na sygkentrwthoume sto Train of Thought?
Exei kai kommati Stream of Consciousness. Poly FII mou thymizei ayto :p
Elfstone
22-09-2003, 02:36
Nai, ontws, "Stream of Consciousness" itan o arxikos titlos tou Falling. De me xalaei o Derek, apla de me ftiaxnei opws o Jordan h o Kevin. Kai eipa hdh oti ta misa kommatia tou album einai apaixta, ta alla misa einai artia (ektos tou You Not Me pou apla den akougetai to kommati), apla ta thewrw emporika. Anyway ontws poly to kourasame. O neos diskos tha gamaei kathws tha periexei ki ena instrumental (vlepe to song writing contest pou exoun) ki emena proswpika mou exoun leipsei oi Liquid Tension!
symposium_lexotanil
22-09-2003, 20:21
emena maresei to you not me
StationEleven
22-09-2003, 20:36
ti theater kai malakies mwre...maiden re mounia groupara me mellon kai ousia \m/
After Dark
22-09-2003, 20:43
Ksexasa vevaia na pw oti to New Millenium einai ena apo ta 5 kalytera Theater tragoudia.
Anyway,se 1,5 mhna tha kseroume.
Ena apo ta 5 kalytera...
Mexri poio lepto re malaka? Pote den to exeis balei na to akousoume oloklhro gamw ta matia sou
StationEleven
23-09-2003, 04:08
o after dark einai texanos?den eimai poly metallas ta last year kai exw kopsei ta e3arxiotika...
After Dark
24-09-2003, 00:12
Ena apo ta 5 kalytera...
Mexri poio lepto re malaka? Pote den to exeis balei na to akousoume oloklhro gamw ta matia sou
Les malakies.Kai sta egkainia kai sthn allh vradia oloklhro epaikse.FSKP.
Arxidia re mlk, afou kathe fora otan to xamhlwneis se ekeino to shmeio pou to xamhlwneis panta akougetai apo ton kosmo ena "ohhh mhn to stamatas"
papari tou papa. esy FSKP
Parte kai to exofullo, epistrefei sti logiki ton Images, Awake kai Falling, diladi skeptomeno. Vevaia to Scenes itan concept kai to Six Degrees polu diverse album, opote logiko einai na min eixan analoga exofulla me ta alla... mipos na perimenoume gia ena pio "kanoniko" album auti ti fora, xoris tis fanfares tou "exoume kanei ena album me 2 CD pou exei mesa olo 14lepta!!!"???
http://www.uelsmann.com/gallery/gal2/images/gal2-03.jpg
To epibebaiwse o MP oti ontws ayto einai to ekswfyllo... poly poly omorfo IMHO
freak brother
24-09-2003, 22:55
ax matia mou...
freak brother
24-09-2003, 22:56
141 lepta? oti prepei gia tis aypnies mou
The Butcher
24-09-2003, 23:45
ama ayto einai to ekswfyllo, gamaei kata ti gnwmi mou!...
ante na doume k to periexomeno....xoxoxoxo
StationEleven
25-09-2003, 01:01
gamaei gamaei to e3wfyllo :)
ante de blepw thn wra na to akousw :)
\m/
141 lepta? oti prepei gia tis aypnies mou
lol
an parw paradeigma apto live... ok xalara \m/
Magellan
25-09-2003, 02:00
kai auto..... (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6248406&style=music&frm=lk_itchy)
The Butcher
25-09-2003, 02:37
ayto to'xei k sto official, olokliro pantws einai akoma kalytero :p
Ti lete vre trelamenoi, 14lepta kommatia pou to eidate to 141... oti na nai diavazete!!! Valte gualia reeeeeeeeeeeee :p Protimo tin eikona pou ekane link o Magellan, einai pio liti kai artistiki. Kala, malakia pou einai aspromauro, an ontos etsi einai.
To parental Advisory to eidate? Re pou ftasame...
Magellan
25-09-2003, 18:56
mallon aspromauri 8a einai
The_Painless
25-09-2003, 20:36
Teleio einai to e3wfullo. Opethizei. Kai an einai aspromauro gamw. Pote bgainei auto eipame?
Buddy Lackey
25-09-2003, 20:49
teleio <> opethizei
Magellan
25-09-2003, 21:12
Teleio einai to e3wfullo. Opethizei. Kai an einai aspromauro gamw. Pote bgainei auto eipame?
11 noembriou
The_Painless
26-09-2003, 00:00
teleio <> opethizei
Eipa kati kako?
Thanks Magellan. Psiloargei alla ok.
Magellan
26-09-2003, 04:16
eeee eisa axaristi
egw kourastika na sou dwsw autin tin toso politimi pliroforia kai si me antamibeis mono me ena ..........euxaristw???
:) :)
The_Painless
26-09-2003, 08:00
Boleuesai me mia pipa? :p :p
Den 3erw giati alla enw eixa xasei ka8e endiaferon gia tous DT, auth th fora pshnomai na to akousw.
Ena pragma 8elw na einai: ameso.
Na se rotiso kati Katerina. Eipes gia to exofullo oti Opethizei. Mipos ta teleutaia ton Opeth Dreamtheaterizoun? Giati exo kati diskakia spiti mou onomati Images And Words kai Awake kai Change Of Seasons pou exoun tin idia nootropia. :p
Boleuomai ego me mia pipa pantos.
den nomizw na 8ymizoun se kamia periptwsh ta Opeth covers kai apo change, images, awake ktl. teleiws diaforetika.
ayto btw ontws mporeis na peis oti opethizei logw greyscale kuriws ;P
Magellan
26-09-2003, 18:18
ts ts ts eimai romantikos tipos .proteimw ena dipno me keria......(kai meta tin pipa.....)
pantws sxetika me tin imerominia exoun akoustei kai alla opws 21 oct kai 7 noem alla h 11 noemb einai mallon i episimi....
The Butcher
26-09-2003, 18:54
11 noemvri vgainei to eipe k o Portnoys. Ola t'alla einai moufes!:)
Apo to forum tou www.mikeportnoy.com (http://www.mikeportnoy.com), milaei o idios o Mike:
Well I guess once again, I am (VERY MUCH AGAINST MY CHOICE) being forced into prematurely announcing something much sooner than I had wanted to because of weak-ass security and bad judgement at our label letting stuff leak onto the internet before we were able to "officially" announce it ourselves (and way sooner than we would have liked or had planned....)
Let's hope they do better with the music or else you guys should be able to download the album any day now....
I apologize to the "official" sites that unfortunately did not get the honors of unveling this information as and when I had hoped...
I really did NOT want 2 months of speculation, analyzation, criticism and debate of the album title, song titles and the cover art...but I guess as long as we are signed to a major label, we no longer have control over our very own music....which is pretty pathetic and a damn shame.
So with that, in response to item #3 listed above, yes indeed that is (a very low resolution version of) the cover of Train of Thought.
And it is with much sadness and disgust I will confirm that it is very much under similar conditions to item #2 above, that I was forced into this confirmation....
I'm sorry you'll have to continue to wait for almost 2 more months....we really did not want to tease you all this soon....
Please be patient, don't judge a book by it's cover and try to keep an open mind and open ears for the real unveiling on November 11th....
MP
The Butcher
27-09-2003, 15:22
nai to diavasa prin kana 2 meres...sounds really pissed off!:p
Yeah to exei kanei post me bold... sou bgainoun ta matia
The_Painless
27-09-2003, 15:47
Enta3ei, mlkia alla ton katalabaineis. Eilikrineia panw ap' ola. Ta eipe xuma :p
@Fixxxer, den 3erw gi' auto pou les, ws parathrhsh to eipa kai mou bghke Opethizei para Theaterizoun. Pipa den exei.
@Magellan: Pipa den exei epishs. Ektos an ennoouses apo to Fixxxer :p
Emena mono apo to BWP kai meta mou fainetai oti oi Opeth exoun greyscale... opote to Opethizei mou fainetai kapws adokimo :p
(yeah i know, no pipa for me too)
Kveldssanger
27-09-2003, 16:04
Kai to Morningrise eixe exofyllo s' ayto to styl an de kano lathos...
O Portnoy eixe vgei sto Six Degrees otan eixa kanei post sto official oti eixa akousei to The Test That Stumped Them All kai to epivevaiose, kai malista eixa provlepsei ti domi tou album kai to eixe epivevaiosei ki auto, kai eimai kai gamo ta paidia gi autous tous logous kai xestika an me peite psonio, alla epeidi exo stamatisei na asxoloumai me to forum, de boro na kano provlepseis gia to Train Of Thought. Episis ithela na po oti imoun o monos Ellinas sto forum ki eniotha monaxia, nomizo itan ki o Rouxlas, o opoios einai o Phoebus an de kano lathos?!?
Magellan
28-09-2003, 03:45
@Magellan: Pipa den exei epishs. Ektos an ennoouses apo to Fixxxer
ela re si gamoto...........exw bare8ei tis pipes tou fixxxer......
Xm, esena borei na se diegeirei kati tetoio otan to fantasionesai, alla an einai na mou to peis na kopso kathe epafi giati ego auta ta gay de ta goustaro.
blue_limestone
29-09-2003, 11:36
To Neo Theater tha gamei kai tha dernei!
To eksofylo moy arese, exei kati mia mystagwgia, san na vgaineis apo mia stoa kai sinantas ena dasos kai ola einai skoteina san se oneiro. Apo tin alli mou fernei sto myalo to Metropolis pt2 stin eikona toy spitiou pou einai aspromavri.
Tespa tha doume gia ti mousiki, elpizw na mas prosferoun nees sigkiniseis:)
Magellan
07-10-2003, 08:23
apo to messageboard twn theater sxetika me tin diarkeia twn tragoudiwn
As I Am - around 7 min.
This Dying Soul - around 11 and a half min.
Endless Sacrifice - about 11 min.
Honored be thy father - around 10 min.
Vacant - around 3 min. (very much in the vein of Wait for Sleep)
Stream of Conicousness - around 11 min.
In the Name of God - around 13 and a half min (lyrics by JP)
simfwna me dilwseis tou MP........
megala einai .......
Dragonlord
07-10-2003, 08:36
Vacant - around 3 min. (very much in the vein of Wait for Sleep)
xmou entypwsh mou einai h prospa8oun akoma na anaplhrwsoun to syn8etiko keno tou moore?ennow oti kai to 6 degrees eixe to dissappear,pou symfwna me ton portnoy htan "to neo tous space-dye vest"..tetoies apwleies den anaplhrwnontai malakeees oute me ton pio grhgoro plhktra sto gala3ia
Kala o Portnoy genika mou fainetai leei oti thelei prokeimenou na "ikanopoiisei" me diloseis tous opadous, ki auto fainetai xekathara se polles diloseis tou... profanos kai to Disappear den eixe oudemia sxesi me Space Dye Vest... amfivallo ki an to Vacant tha exei kamia sxesi me Wait For Sleep....anywayz, tha doume. An kai auto pou leei einai oti vrisketai stis fleves tou Wait for Sleep, borei na einai aimatiro black metal.
daydreamer
22-10-2003, 14:24
Την παρακάτω πρώτη review είχε ανεβάσει ο Mark Bredius webmaster του site των Theater...
"OCTOBER 17TH, 2003: DREAM THEATER - TRAIN OF THOUGHT
Today I received a Secure Electronic Delivery (SED) of Dream Theater's
upcoming studio release "Train Of Thought" from Elektra. These are basically
high-quality copy protected Windows Media files that can only be played on
the machine they were downloaded on, and can't be recorded onto a CDR.
I have listened to the album five times so far, and it absolutely rocks. It
has just the right mixture of prog metal and prog rock for me. There isn't
one weak track on the album and the musicianship is out of this world, as
expected.
. The album opens with the kick-ass track "As I Am" (7:47), which is
currently being released as a promo single to radio stations in the USA. The
promo contains the full length album version, as well as a radio edit
(haven't heard the radio edit yet). We should have a list of stations and
contact info on dreamtheater.net soon, so that fans can request the track.
. "This Dying Soul" (11:24) starts with a two-minute instrumental intro with
some melodic guitar work that reminds me of Maiden. Musically the track is
very diverse and fragmented, sorta like "The Glass Prison" but less heavy.
There is even a re-used guitar riff from "The Glass Prison" at 6:40. Can't
wait to hear this track live.
. "Endless Sacrifice" (11:23) features beautiful mellow vocals by James
(which is how I prefer to hear him), with some heavier vocals during the
chorus and towards the end of the song. There is also an awesome four-minute
instrumental break five minutes into the song, with Dream Theater at their
absolute best.
. Next up is "Honor Thy Father" (10:11), which is one of my early
favourites. This track has it all... Mellow and melodic vocals, distorted
rap vocals, an amazing instrumental break with heavy guitar riffs, flashy
keyboards and (movie?) samples which reminds of the instrumental break in
"The Mirror".
. "Vacant" (2:57) is a beautiful vocals/keyboards track.
. The track I have been looking forward to the most is the instrumental
"Stream Of Consciousness" (11:16). I'm not a musician myself, so I won't
even attempt to describe this amazing piece of music. :-)
. The title "In The Name Of God" (14:14) has been a source of speculation
among fans. But rest assured, this is not a religious song but deals with
wrong-doings "in the name of God". A very powerful track and an excellent
album closer.
"Train Of Thought" was produced by John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy,
engineered by Doug Oberkircher and mixed by Kevin Shirley and the album is
going to rock the world on November 11th, 2003. :-)"
Mark Bredius
psychotron
22-10-2003, 14:28
mou anoigeis thn ore3h adelfe kai de mporw na perimenw mexri tis 11 noe. To 8elw twra!
StationEleven
22-10-2003, 14:35
po re pousth to noembrh bgainei poly prama pane ta lefta mas
Magellan
22-10-2003, 21:04
kamoia idea na bgaloume kana frago?
After Dark
23-10-2003, 01:00
Opws eixa pei kai sto limestone mathimata akornteon einai h lysh.:)
Kingryche
23-10-2003, 02:16
Ti na poume re gmt kai gia tous Theater?Akiopistia kai egiisi.Akomi kai otan diaskevazoun pop kommatia i themes to kanoun korifaia giati apla oi Petrucci,Portnoy,Rudess,Muyng einaiolokliromenoi mousikoi me anoixto mialo,apisteftes gnoseis kai asteirefti empnefsi se oti kai an katapiastoun.
Ara den iparxei logos na agxothei kanenas gia to Train Of Thought...
Tha exei polla stoixeia pou tha kanoun tous progsters na ksinoun to kefali apo deos kai porosi os sinithos eno tha exei kai para poli kali,poiotiki mousiki gia olous osous antilamvanontai tin mousiki ton theater os melodia.
A, episis as simeioso oti o LaBrie einai o pio prosfatos pou ekleise gia to neo Ayreon mazi me Devon Graves,Eric Clayton,Mike Barker kai Magnus Ekwall.Epivevaiosi tou poso metrios tragoudistis einai re gamoto...
The Butcher
23-10-2003, 02:23
erxetai re erxetai!!! xaxaxa
kala apo mark bredius de pisteya oti th'akouga kaka/ metria logia gia to album- edw pou ta leme prepei na einai dt fanboy autos o mark.:p
exw mia diaisthisi oti tha m'aresei pio poly apo to SDOIT (to opoio M'ARESE). alla genika exw tin entypwsi oti tha aresei pio poly, k oti tha piasei arketous aproetoimastous...
makari na exw dikio
kai kingryche, ti ennoeis me to "epivevaiwsi tou poso metrios tragoudistis einai"? to oti tha tragoudisei stous ayreon ton kanei metrio tragoudisti?
After Dark
23-10-2003, 02:38
Stous Ayreon ola ta lefta tha einai o Devin.-
Kingryche
23-10-2003, 02:40
Eironiko einai re Butcher...Kai mi mou peis oti oloi oi "psagmenoi" progsters den ta xonoun ston LaBrie oti den exei kali foni,oute sta live ta gamaei ktl?
Eleos re gmt, mia xara einai o LaBrie kai mallon o idanikos gia tin thesi stous Theater.To an aresei se kapoion perisootero o Alder,o Arch i opoios allos einai sevasto alla os ekei as min ipovivazoume ton LaBrie.
Po re gmt einai poli mallon os tis 11/11...
A Train For Thought Substitute?
After Dark
23-10-2003, 02:42
Enchant-Tug Of War
O deyteros kalyteros prog diskos gia fetos imo.Xreiazetai na anaferw poios tha einai o kalyteros?;)
The Butcher
23-10-2003, 02:50
xaxaxa. ok i alitheia einai oti den perimena thetiko sxolio gia ton labrie synepws den tin epiasa tin eirwnia!!!
nai i alitheia einai oti polla legontai gia ton labrie, k einai alitheia oti xwlainei sta lives klp klp... alla pragmatika opws eipes, thewrw oti einai o idanikos tragoudistis gia tous theater, exei pleon syndethei me ton ixo tis bandas- de tha mporouse na einai diaforetika.
k den einai sigoura metrios tragoudistis- einai poly kalos, apla polloi mallon den katalavainoun poso dyskola apo texnikis apopsis einai polla fwnitika meri stous theater, opote k dyskolo na ermineftoun swsta live (apo studio douleies de pisteyw na exei meinei kaneis paraponemenos apo ton labrie).
anyway mlkies, ksanaleme ta polysizitimena twra... ante na vgei to ToT na exoume neo yliko na syzitame!:p
Kingryche
23-10-2003, 02:51
Gia prog fetos sigoura to Train of Thought tha einai no1 alla exei kai alles aksiologes kiklofories to 2003.
Dead Soul Tribe - Murder Of Crows
OSI - Osi
Andromeda - II=I
Spock's Beard - Feel Euphoria
kathos episis Evergrey,Royal Hunt kai Neal Morse
Afta thimamai na exo ksexorisei fetos gia prog...
The Butcher
23-10-2003, 03:02
ta 2 prwta pou aneferes ta'xw sta 5 kalytera albums pou akousa fetos. alla wraia (prog) diskakia itan to sound of silence k to power of omens... an k ligo kourastika gia tous mi "progressivades" :p
Buddy Lackey
23-10-2003, 05:21
mr butcher efkeria na sto pw e , tzasane apo power of omens, arellano kai salinas.
The Butcher
23-10-2003, 15:49
xaxaxa thanks re buddy alla ok, eixa paei sto site tous prin ligo kairo k ta'xa dei ta dysaresta... megali vlakeia vasika giati itan k idrytika meli... k aytos o poustis exei fwnara. makari pantws na vrethoun meli k na synexisoun to idio kala!
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