Ekseliksi?

[cancer]

Merikoi xwroi einai katadikasmenoi, dedomenou oti den 8a xasoun tin tautotita tous, na ekselissontai mono mexri enos simeiou kai meta na sapizoun sti stasimotita.
Pleon de blepo kamia ekseliksi apo kamia mpanta, kanena neoterismo kai 8a 8ela na anaferete mpantes pou 8eoreite oti ekselissontai (pragmatika omws) me ka8e tous album.
I stasimotita, gia mena, den simainei aparaitita anamasima, sinithws, omws, einai mia me8odos pou briskei o ka8e sinthetis na grafei komatia pou aresoun sto koino tou.

[Buddy Lackey]

vasika ti theoreis ekseliksi?
einai kai afto sxetiko, merikous tous kaliptoun liga pragmata gia na theorisoun ekseligmena kapoia groups, merikoi pali einai anikanopiitoi, kai ta vlepoun ola tetrimena.
egw theorw ekseliksi px kai to "Through The Darkest Hour" twn SA ekei pisw..
opws theorw ekseliksi tou power metal hxou to "Transition" twn Destiny's End (rip)
alla vlepw les methodo pou vriskei o kathenas ..oi Cauldron Born exoun pleon anorthodoxes methodous ..sto power metal kai alloi polloi.
vska be specific.

[cancer]

basika milisa gia pragmatiki ekseliksi.
an esi 8eoreis ekseliksi to teleutaio seven witches px (mou r8e sto mialo logw rivera), i to transition (pou den exo akousei, alla de fantazomai kati sigklonistiko), i tous cauldron born kai tis anorthodokses methodous tous... tote psaxneis tis leptomereies twn leptomereiwn, kai sinepws tin antilamvanomaste diaforetika.
oso gia tous SA, 8eoi, alla to through the darkest hour pou den exo akousei, exei kamia 10etia pou vgike.

[Buddy Lackey]

aplws to anefera ws deigma ekseliksis.
ok oi Fates Warning ekselisontai sinexws...ti alla
akoma na mou peis pws ennoeis tin ekseliksi gia na dw ti tha sou pw

[cancer]

diabase tis protes protaseis tou post mou.

oi fates warning omws pleon exoun ksefigei apo ta oria tou metal.

[symposium_lexotanil]

os orismo tis ekseliksis theoro tin poreia ton arcturus.-
episis groups pou ekselixthikan thaumasia apo album se album itan oi tiamat,oi paradise lost,oi moonspell kai oi the gathering (xm tora paratirisa oti anikoun ston idio xwro autoi oi treis,lete na nai tyxaio?).
i aprovlepti poreia ton ulver itan o,ti kalytero exei parousiastei stin istoria tis mousikis (e nai ypervalo ligaki,alla ti na kanoume,tha me epiveveosei kai o kveld).
to thema exei syzitithei pleistakis pantos.
apla gia tin istoria na (ksana)po oti einai kapoia groups pou ta thes giauto pou einai.px darkthrone.apo autous de thelo na ekselixthoun.

[cancer]

kai gia na to kano liana.
iparxoun metalompantes pou na ekselissoun to metal, xoris na feugoun apo ta oria tou?
polloi ekselissontai, opws px fates, alla vgainoun apo ta oria.

[cancer]

nai, mono pou to sham mirrors den einai vima mprosta, dedomenou oti to proigoumeno album itan to masquerade.
gia tous tiamat... de 8a to lega
paradise lost den paizoun pleon metal. oute oi gathering. oute oi ulver.

[Buddy Lackey]

xm
to Disconnected einai progressive metal, giati exei vgei apo ta oria?
Oi Nevermore kanoun afto pou les
oi Cathedral ekselisoun ton hxo tous...an kai tha diafoniseis se afto.
ola ta group stin ousia mia KAPOIA ekseliksi tin exoun, alla den einai toso megali i drastiki oso twn groups pou anefere o symp px.

[symposium_lexotanil]

xm den eixa katalavei oti milagame gia ekseliksi mesa sta austira oria tou metal.to sham mirrors itan apisteuti ekseliksi giati den eixa kamia sxesi me ton prokatoxo tou,xoris na einai me tpt ypodeestero.opote den katalavaino giati diafoneis.
episis oi tiamata apo kei pou paizan adiaforo death vgalan clouds kai sti synexeia wildhoney kai paei legontas xoris na ksefeugoun apo ta oria tou metal (mexri KAI to skeleton).to idio isxyei kai gia gathering mexri to if then else (mallon xoris na symperilamvanetai auto).
gia tous paradise lost den exo na po tpt allo.i poreia kai i klimakosi ton 5-6 proton albums tous ta leei ola...

[Kveldssanger]

i aprovlepti poreia ton ulver itan o,ti kalytero exei parousiastei stin istoria tis mousikis (e nai ypervalo ligaki,alla ti na kanoume,tha me epiveveosei kai o kveld).


Poioi einai aytoi? :p

Nomizo oti otan h eksellixi erxetai fysika kai oxi allazoume apla gia na allaxoume einai kalo... Apo tin alli omos den me enoxlei otan orismena sygrotimata paramenoun stathera sto yfos tous... Gia mena toulaxiston exartatai apolyta apo to ekastote sygrotima...

Oso gia to teleytaio erotima sou cancer... Exeliktiki einai h poreia ton Green Carnation gia emena... To idio kai ton My Dying Bride, toulaxiston mexri to ...Complete (alla kai meta eos ena vathmo)... H ton Cathedral...

[symposium_lexotanil]

episis ekseliktiki itan kai i poreia ton metallica through the years..oso ki an den euxaristise auto pollous...
genikotera :
maresei i ekseliksi otan apo auti vgainei kati kalytero mousika.giauto kai anefera ta groups pou anefera.
px oi gathering me to pou allaksan styl se pio melodiko megalourgisan.itan profanes oti den tous pigene to death idietera.to idio isxyei kai gia lake of tears (an kai de tha symfonisei o headstones fan virus).

[Amnesiac.]

symfwnw egw kai ayto ftanei. :P

[Amnesiac.]

to wildhoney einai ena teleio deigma ekseliksis.
kai to eternity twn anathema, poso mallon to alternative 4.
kai oi katatonia exoun gamati ekseliksi.

[MoRmEnGiL]

ouf,erwthsh:ti shmainei "e3elissomai?" nta3,liges bandes DEN e3elissontai ,opws px oi acdc :p gia mena sygkrothma-e3eli3h einai oi ulver,oi sigh,oi arcturus fysika e ok,to an 3erei kapoios 8etikh h arnhtikh thn e3eli3h tou group einai ypokeimeniko 8ema
gousta eipe o lagos ki efage to sapouni

[cancer]

einai poly ekneuristiko se topix na mpainei o ka8enas kai na leei to makry tou kai to konto tou.
EIPAME: EKSELIKSI MESA STA AUSTIRA ORIA TOU METAL.

oi ulver pleon den exoun kamia sxesi me to (xevi)metal.

[Elfstone]

Ekseliksh mesa sta "austhra" oria tou metal...kai poso austhra einai dhladh, kai poios to orizei auto? O Matheos mporei na mh thelei na onomazontai metal oi Fates, egw nomizw pws einai gia ta sidera to atomo. To metal eksellisetai san olothta kai ta oria tou megalwnoun. Otan kykloforise to Rage For Order posoi thewrisan oti oi Queensryche "vgikan" apta oria tou metal? Mallon omws to dieurynan para vghkan apo auto...anyway. O oros "austhra" me enoxlei kathws tous Ulver ontws thewrw oti vgikan apta oria alla oxi tous Gathering px.

[symposium_lexotanil]

kala ta 2 teleutaia gathering den einai metal pou na xtypas to gkolo sou kato.parola auta to kathe album tous einai diaforetiko apo to proigoumeno kai mexri to how to measure a planet mia xara metal itan.tespa ki ego den katalavaino pou telionoun ta oria.
de gamietai omos,einai arga kai nystazo

[WoTaN]

i aprovlepti poreia ton ulver itan o,ti kalytero exei parousiastei stin istoria tis mousikis

llllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
oxi allo karvounoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[symposium_lexotanil]

i aprovlepti poreia ton ulver itan o,ti kalytero exei parousiastei stin istoria tis mousikis (e nai ypervalo ligaki,alla ti na kanoume,tha me epiveveosei kai o kveld).

eipame YPERVALO LIGAKI.

pragmatika arxizo na pisteuo oti eisai kathysterimenos.xoris plaka e.

[WoTaN]

ligaaaaki upervalei,oso pataei i gata.mporei na einai kai alitheia dld.

[symposium_lexotanil]

xm gia kapoious mporei na einai.prosopika den eimai kai TOSO poromenos me ulver.
pantos esy mporeis afova na synexiseis na theoreis oti oi cirith ungol einai to kalytero group tou planiti

[WoTaN]

egw den exw pei kati tetoio kai oute prokeite.
allwste egw den akouw mousiki gia na mporo na apofanthw gia kati tetoio alla ena parakladi tis ws epi to pleiston.

[symposium_lexotanil]

tote stamata nas mas ta kaneis karpouza (virus kopirait)

[nikodimos]

Pollh koubenta gia to tipota. Den mporei kapoios na e3elixtei pragmatika an 3ekinaei me kollhma na mhn 3efugei apo kapoia stena plaisia. Den shmainei oti 8a 3efugei telika alla einai la8os san autoskopos. Epsish na pw oti oi Gathering pou proanafer8hkan einai mpanta pou exei alla3ei para polu ton hxo ths alla exei meinei korufaia. Akouw apo to prwto mexri to teleutaio polu euxarista.

[MoRmEnGiL]

e xeste me.metal kai metal kai metal.metal mai ass.den yparxei emtal kai non metal,yparxei mousikh.a syxthr.

[rincewind2k]

TI EIPES WRE???

[morphine]

oi sabatatz? Ka8e album kai diaforetiko, kai exw thn entupwsh oti paramenoun metal, apo to sirens mexri to poets and madmen.

[Kveldssanger]

oi sabatatz? Ka8e album kai diaforetiko, kai exw thn entupwsh oti paramenoun metal, apo to sirens mexri to poets and madmen.

Mmm... Eos ena vathmo diafono afou apo to dead winter dead kai meta (gia na min po kai apo to Handful of rain) diatiroun to idio akrivos mousiko styl... Kati logiko men, afou den ginetai na allazeis ep' apeiron, alla de nomizo oti pleon to sygrotima exelissetai idiaitera... Etsi ki allios exoun vrei mia arketa petyxhmenh syntagi.... Yparxei kai h megali proshlosi stou TSO...

[MoRmEnGiL]

poianou tso? :confused:

[symposium_lexotanil]

tou pou tso

[morphine]

vasika handful of rain - dead winter dead kamia sxesh. Dead winter dead me wake of magellan exoun kapoies omoiothtes de lew, alla to dwd exei polu pio polles orxhstrikes istories ki apo'dw ki apo kei. Epishs to poets and madmen den eixe kamia sxesh me kanena apo auta.
Opote e3akolou8w na pisteuw (meta apo auta ta tromera, ATRANTAXTA epixeirhmata) oti e3ellissontai.

[Dragonlord]

to dead winter dead kai to wake of magellan ontws den exoun megalh sxesh me to poets and madmen.einai kala

[koyremeno_aygo]

apo to dead winter dead mhn pw to edgw of thorns kai ginw kakos exelissontai pros to xeirotero

[morphine]

kai auto. Kai genikotera den eixe sxesh mousika
ektos apo to morphine child pou einai ena epos.-

[atom_smasher]

sumfwnw me morphine.sunexizoun na e3elisontai kai den moiazoun idiaitera oi diskoi, an skefteis kiolas oti ta idia atoma grafoun tous diskous.kai epeidh eimai antikeimenikos me tous savatage tha pw to e3hs:oloi oi diskoi tous gamane kai fusika kai to teleutaio pou htan e3airetiko.

[FIXXXER]

De tha lega oti to Wake Of Magellan exei megali sxesi me ta alla album tous kai einai kai apo ta poluagapimena mou album genikotera. Borei na mi deixno toso poromenos me Savatage alla exo discography kai goustaro ta perissotera tous kommatia, gi auto liga ta logia sas, giati eimai trou opados.
Anyway, auto pou eipe gia tous Ulver o filtatos symposium, alla oti ki an eipe gia Paradise Lost, Gathering kai Tiamat me kaluptoun apoluta kai prepei na po oti sumfono apoluta. Opos episis kai me nikodimo oson afora ton orismo tis exelixis. Otan vazeis oria, pairneis ton poulo. Alloste poios orizei ti einai to metal? Mipos o Necro? Mipos o cancer? Mipos to Metal Hammer? ahaha ego pantos theoro metal oti mou aresei. Nai, kai o Hatzigiannis metal einai... ahahah

[symposium_lexotanil]

nekrosloter gouanampis

[morphine]

mou hr8e 8eikh ataka dragonlord
"akouw heavy metal se ola ta eidh ths mousikhs"

mh to gelas fixxxer :p

[StationEleven]

auto pou eipe o drago einai megalh koubenta kai poly alh8ino etsi einai giea \m/

[Coroner]

O Nikodimos exei dikio sto prwto skelos. De mporei kapoios na e3elixtei pragmatika an den 3efugei apo opoiadipote oria. Ap' tin alli, to oti e3elisetai kapoios de simainei oti dimiourgei kai "kaliteri" mousiki, kati to opoio IMHO isxuei toso gia tous Tiamat, Paradise Lost oso kai gia tous Gathering. De mou aresei i poreia tous, xwris auto vevaia na simainei tpt. Telos, poios einai autos pou 8a orisei tin e3eli3ei? Mono o idios o kallitexnis... Tespa, epeidi mporw na sinexizw epi wres gi'auto to 8ema as stamatisw kalitera edw.

-Later

[MoRmEnGiL]

poianou tso? ......................

[Kveldssanger]

"stous" ithela na grapso... TSO = Trans Siberian Orchestra... Happy now?

[warlord]

Kalh h ekseliksh, alla yparxoun kai mpantes pou den exoun shmeiosei th paramikrh proodo alla gamoun kai dernoun px Motorhead, AC/DC...
Yparxoun bebaia kai oi Maiden pou exoun liosei to stylaki tous kai mas ta exoun kamei karpouza...

[MoRmEnGiL]

oxi,ka8olou happy..dwse mou karamelitsa kai to skeutomai.

[cancer]

De tha lega oti to Wake Of Magellan exei megali sxesi me ta alla album tous kai einai kai apo ta poluagapimena mou album genikotera. Borei na mi deixno toso poromenos me Savatage alla exo discography kai goustaro ta perissotera tous kommatia, gi auto liga ta logia sas, giati eimai trou opados.
Anyway, auto pou eipe gia tous Ulver o filtatos symposium, alla oti ki an eipe gia Paradise Lost, Gathering kai Tiamat me kaluptoun apoluta kai prepei na po oti sumfono apoluta. Opos episis kai me nikodimo oson afora ton orismo tis exelixis. Otan vazeis oria, pairneis ton poulo. Alloste poios orizei ti einai to metal? Mipos o Necro? Mipos o cancer? Mipos to Metal Hammer? ahaha ego pantos theoro metal oti mou aresei. Nai, kai o Hatzigiannis metal einai... ahahah
de nomizo na exo deiksei tetoies taseis

[FIXXXER]

Tyxaia to eipa epeidi xero oti eisai dunato xarti oson afora tis parexigiseis kai tis gnoseis... kai sta duo nomizeis oti to katexeis. :P

[Stormrider]

(den exw diavasei proifoumena posts)

arketa exelixima sigkrotimata thewrw tous: dream theater , dark tranquillity, opeth


kai polla alla alla den mourxontai twra...

[Solo Carriera]

κρίμα το bandwidth.

[Chopped In Half]

κρίμα το παλικάρι.

[The Butcher]

Merikoi xwroi einai katadikasmenoi, dedomenou oti den 8a xasoun tin tautotita tous, na ekselissontai mono mexri enos simeiou kai meta na sapizoun sti stasimotita.
Pleon de blepo kamia ekseliksi apo kamia mpanta, kanena neoterismo kai 8a 8ela na anaferete mpantes pou 8eoreite oti ekselissontai (pragmatika omws) me ka8e tous album.
I stasimotita, gia mena, den simainei aparaitita anamasima, sinithws, omws, einai mia me8odos pou briskei o ka8e sinthetis na grafei komatia pou aresoun sto koino tou.
wraio thread, prwti fora to vlepw

[jimid]

In flames: Me to reroute ta tinaksan ola ston aera alla to STYE einai ligo poly to idio opote den ekserw an metrane.

Dimmu Borgir: Genaia kinisi to Death Cult Armageddon alla den ksew kata poso tha synexistei opote... to idio me tous in flames

Katatonia: Xreiazetai na pw tpt parapanw?

Paradise Lost: Me mia pio elastiki ermineia tou orou metal.

An mou erthei allo tha sas pw

[Ethir]

Kana sigrotima me kathara fonitika? Giati i "kafrila" poli tis modas mas exei ginei. Kai aporo pos i prototipia kai i patenta kathe eidous erxete apo afto to eidos teleftea???

[jimid]

Kana sigrotima me kathara fonitika? Giati i "kafrila" poli tis modas mas exei ginei. Kai aporo pos i prototipia kai i patenta kathe eidous erxete apo afto to eidos teleftea???

Katatonia

Paradise lost??????


p.x. lew egw twra

[VirusXI]

Kana sigrotima me kathara fonitika? Giati i "kafrila" poli tis modas mas exei ginei. Kai aporo pos i prototipia kai i patenta kathe eidous erxete apo afto to eidos teleftea???

ntaks, den eipan kai kamia kafrila.
oso afora thn aporia sou, vres monos sou thn apanthsh. 'h parea me to rockavlo!!!! =)

[Fourka]

Ektos apo afta pou aneferan polloi (Paradise Lost, Gathering, Dimmu Borgir) na kai merika alla:
- Dismal Euphony: Fovera ta dio prota albums, alla i ekseliksi tous...pire elafros ton katiforo..
- Satyricon: IMO, den me enthousiazei i kataliksi tous..
- Thyrfing: Ta perissotera albums tous diaferoun to ena apo to allo, par'ola afta "kratoun gera" afto to "kati" pou tous xaraktirizei kai mporo na pw oti m'aresoun OLA ta albums tous.
- Windir: 4 ola ki ola, alla eixan ekseliksi stin poiotita tous kai stin atmosfaira twn tragoudiwn tous pros to kalitero.

[Buddy Lackey]

eleos

[Fourka]

mi ginesai rockavlos plz

[WoTaN]

eleos

[rockavlon]

giou psiriz it too mats.... egw akouw kai kafrika, alla ta orea oxi tis gayiles.
px to burger, ama den egrafe burger ena 6 tha pairne :D
alla that's not di point. emena m arese px file cancer to dio. einai karmponaki sabbathilas, elaxista diaforetiko, me kalo hxo kai orees sintheseis. den mporeis NA PIESEIS katastaseis ?! ekseliksh gia thn ekseliksh ? tote ti tha nai klassiko ? e ?

malakies mwre...

[Ethir]

ntaks, den eipan kai kamia kafrila.
oso afora thn aporia sou, vres monos sou thn apanthsh. 'h parea me to rockavlo!!!! =)
Otan girnaei kafrotragoudistis kai sou leei "koita ego eimai polla ektos apo tragoudistis" kati prepei na simainei. Dekto to "music in my ears" alla einai alla sigrotimata kai eidika stin elliniki metal skini pou parolo pou gamane mousika den tixainoun megalis anagnorisis. Giati? Giati aploustata den exoun kafrika fonitika.

[BlackMetal]

stop the madness.

apo tin katarameni elliniki skini (eleos pia) to mono group pou exei diatirithei (metaksy fthoras kai aftharsias) tosa xronia einai oi rc.
pleon den yparxei kanena group "me kafrika fonitika" pou na exei na epideiksei kapoia euryteri anagnorisi (ektos apo to mpam pou ekane to proto album ton homo iratus,alla auto mallon epeidi epaizan kati prototypo kai fresko - alla de gamietai epeidi exoun kafrika fonitika tha nai).na ypenthymiso ston agapito ethir oti to mono elliniko group pou exei akoustei paraekso ta teleutaia xronia (estw kai sto xwro tou underground) einai oi battleroar (symmetoxi sto kit - fan club - ektimisi apo tous europaious epic fans).

auta.

[rockavlon]

rc - poly etsi ki etsi - sakis vox for di pouts.asto
nightfall - for he pouts. parafwnos.oi lesbies kales gelio exoun.
necromantia. kaloi alla ntaks. bareta ta teleuaia.
oi sarrisa an bgazan to demo tha tan gamw.
e ntaks ta teleutaia ellhnika pou kanane onoma htan oi sokrates kai oi aphrodites E ? milame gia onoma omws e ?. oxi na paikseis se 300 malakes karagiozhdes germanous koufous.

kati ROT ktl ta naitparerxomai. gelioi kai pou nai ??? oi karieristes ?

oi less than human htan gamw alla malakies den kanane tpt. oi homo iratus de mou lene kai polla ligh protwtypia, ok tpt to syntaraktiko.

plaka plaka gamatoi htan oi mytiny. zerbanos, fwnara. kai kalogrammenoi kai swsta agglika kai ola. alla paparia.

alla paidakia - an thes na kaneis kariera thes tours :P kai kaneis den ta parataei ola gia na kanei onoma. an den eisai poly xalia kai kseskisteis sto touring sto telos mallon tha ta katafereis.

[BlackMetal]

mlk eleos.
stamata na mperdeueis tis prosopikes sou protimiseis me ta gegonota (nekropethamenos kopirait)
ego milao gia facts.stin ousia de leme tpt diaforetiko.
mporei oi rc na sou fainontai gtp (pithanotata na nai ontos pleon) alla paramenei to monadiko elliniko metal (?) group se megali etereia kai to mono en energeia pou to kseroun kai dyo treis paraekso.auto leo.


e ntaks ta teleutaia ellhnika pou kanane onoma htan oi sokrates kai oi aphrodites E ? milame gia onoma omws e ?. oxi na paikseis se 300 malakes karagiozhdes germanous koufous.


milame gia METAL groups tou SIMERA.
mporei oi battleroar na paiksan se 300 malakes karagiozhdes germanous koufous opos les,alla auto den pauei na einai to monadiko epiteugma pou exei na parousiasei elliniki metal mpanta ta teleytaia 2-3 xronia.


oi less than human htan gamw alla malakies den kanane tpt.

kaloi alla psofisan.


oi homo iratus de mou lene kai polla ligh protwtypia, ok tpt to syntaraktiko.

tpt to syntaraktiko,alla kai pali auto itan to kalytero pou evgale i ellada pros to ekso (ws pros tin anagnorisi)


plaka plaka gamatoi htan oi mytiny. zerbanos, fwnara. kai kalogrammenoi kai swsta agglika kai ola. alla paparia.

oreoi ki autoi,alla mallon edo tairiazei perissotero to "tpt to syntaraktiko"



tespa.ego eipa kati sygkekrimeno pano sto akyro pou eipe o ethir kai kataliksame na leme PALI gia tin elliniki skini.DEN YPARXEI ELLINIKI SKINI.ftanei pia.

[rockavlon]

egw ki o hraklhs tha eimaste to neo aima kai sperma ths ellhnikhs skhnhs.

[necropethamenos]

egw ki o hraklhs tha eimaste to neo aima kai sperma ths ellhnikhs skhnhs.

an esy eisai OTIDIPOTE "neo" OPOIASDIPOTE skinis, tote to palio POIO einai?

[Ghoul]

on topic:

symphwnw gia cathedral, arcturus kai paradise lost pou aneferan merikoi, epishs na prosthesw at the g8s kai carcass.

edit: oreo topic btw. an thymithw na postarw ki alles mpantes. xm px dhg isws?

[warlord]

Pos akrivos ekselisoun oi Cathedral ton metal hxo?

[WoTaN]

Vasika poia einai i sxesi twn Cathedral me ton metal ixo (plin ekseresewn).

[VirusXI]

Vasika poia einai i sxesi twn Cathedral me ton metal ixo (plin ekseresewn).

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Variemai na anoigw tetoia syzhthsh, k epeidh variemai na epanalamvanomai mporeis na checkareis to "ERWTHSHS!! PROS METALLADES..." thread - page 8. =)

[Ghoul]

xaxaxax WoTaN.
h ekseliksh opws th vlepw egw:
apo to argo doom/death tou forest of equilibrium, sta ethereal mirror k carnival bizarre doom me orismena groovy/prog stoixeia. Kai apo to supernatural k caravan exontas anevasei ligo taxythtes (ta groovy stoixeia einai akomh pio aisthita), sto lithargiko,melanxoliko doom tou endtyme k apo kei sto VIIth coming me diaforetikh paragwgh k perissotera "prog rock" stoixeia an thelete.
Vasika thn ekseliksh twn cathedral th vlepw k anamesa sta tragoudia tou idiou album polles fores. To olo thema einai pws antilamvanetai ton oro ekseliksh o kathenas. Oi cathedral panta vriskontan sta oria tou doom kai mesa sauta ta oria ekselisan ton hxo tous apo kykloforia se kykloforia. Arkei na akouseis ta albums tous, tpt perissotero. Akomh kai sta EP tous exoun grapsei tragoudia pou isws de tha perimenes apo autous opws px to the voyage of the homeless sapien..
anyway polla eipa.

[WoTaN]

Orea simfwnw,alla kai pali ti sxesi exoun ola auta ta gkrouv prog ktl me ton metal ixo na mou eksigiseis.
Tespa menei sauto pou eipes:

To olo thema einai pws antilamvanetai ton oro ekseliksh o kathenas.

[VirusXI]

hm oi Cathedral ekselix8hkan/sontai san group alla ntaks, den ekselisoun k ton metal hxo.

Wotan to metal den einai mono tziztziz ki8aritses kai ntoupantoupa me a8lies kalt paragwges. 'h move on 'h skase epitelous.
exeis kialla akousmata, mh gkaneis ton vlaka.

[WoTaN]

Nai re etsi to dexomai,alla mi mou lete oti oi Cathedral ekselisoun ton metal ixo.San group na to dextw,alla oxi kai ton metal ixo!!
To topic anaferete stin ekseliksi genika genika i stin ekseliksi sto metal??

[VirusXI]

egw den eipa opws vlepeis gia Cathedral k ekseliksh tou metal, mono h ekseliksh twn idiwn isxyei.

h ekseliksh sto xwro tou metal, pou 8es den 8es ginetai *most times* me anamiksh k allwn stoixeiwn.
sto heavy metal ektwnpragmatwn den ginetai kai den yparxei ekseliksh entos twn oriwn tou, opote anarwtiemai giati asxoleisai akoma me ayto to thread.

[Buddy Lackey]

Vasika poia einai i sxesi twn Cathedral me ton metal ixo (plin ekseresewn).
megalyterh apo ayth twn Wotan pantws

[Ethir]

na ypenthymiso ston agapito ethir oti to mono elliniko group pou exei akoustei paraekso ta teleutaia xronia (estw kai sto xwro tou underground) einai oi battleroar (symmetoxi sto kit - fan club - ektimisi apo tous europaious epic fans).
Vasika sto parapano tha simfoniso alla tigxanei idiaiterotitas to sigekrimeno sigrotima giati anikei se sigekrimeno eidos pou einai mia "omada" opadon pou to latrevoun gia afto. To epic einai alli fasi...

Pantos einai gegonos pos i kafrila einai ena eidos pou exei anagnorisi stin ellada perissotero apo alla, as poume, kinds of metal.

[BlackMetal]

logw modas kai charts opos panta

[rockavlon]

oi cathedral groupara, alla ntaks mhn poume oti exoun to trela diaforopoihmeno hxo - einai poly signature o hxos tous. ksereis pioa mpanta akous.

hm. ntaks mpanta me orea ekseliksh itan oi moahni moahna. ktl ktl ktl..
conception - apo to last sunset sto flow - kamia sxesh ala ola diskares. ka ita 4.

tha mporousa na dwsw ki alla paradeigmata....

[WoTaN]

h ekseliksh sto xwro tou metal, pou 8es den 8es ginetai *most times* me anamiksh k allwn stoixeiwn.
sto heavy metal ektwnpragmatwn den ginetai kai den yparxei ekseliksh entos twn oriwn tou, opote anarwtiemai giati asxoleisai akoma me ayto to thread.

Simfwnw kai pali se oti les,den me peirazei i anamixi kai allwn stoixeiwn pou les,apla kapou na min xanete i tautotita tou group.Den nomizw na diafwneis sauto.
Oson afora tous Cathedral egw den anaferthika sauto kathauto to group to opoio endexwmenos na ekselisei ton ixo tou (kai kala kanei-kai etsi prepei).Milisa kathara stin sxesi pou exei me ton metal ixo kai oute eipa oti esu eipes oti ekselisoun ton metal ixo.Allos to eipe auto.Exalou exoume milisei se polla threads peri ekseliksis.


megalyterh apo ayth twn Wotan pantws
sure dude 8) :lol:

[BlackMetal]

Simfwnw kai pali se oti les,den me peirazei i anamixi kai allwn stoixeiwn


opos? dose paradeigma.poia stoixeia ennoeis sygkekrimena?

[WoTaN]

Skyclad i Savatage duo trana paradeigmata groups pou ekselisan kai ton ixo tous kai ton metal ixo genikotera.

[necropethamenos]

Skyclad i Savatage duo trana paradeigmata groups pou ekselisan kai ton ixo tous kai ton metal ixo genikotera.

nai alla thewreis tous savatage metal band enw tous cathedral oxi? Diladi apo to handful kai meta paizan xevimetal? (me tin "kleisti" ennoia).

i mipws oi skyclad paizan metal meta to oui avant garde?

[WoTaN]

Cathedral oti exw akousei den mou fernei se metal,mallon se pio groovy-stoner katastasi ekseroumenou twn proton diskwn pou einai deathiles.
Basika oi Savatage meta to Hall Of The Mountain King kai ekseroumenou tou Fight For The Rock pote den epexan 100% xevimetal.Kai eksalou egw den anaferthika sto xevimetal,genika sto metal.Kai genika metal oi savatage eidika epezan se kathe disko.Gia tous Skyclad ok to dexomai exeis ena alfa dikio.

[Buddy Lackey]

Cathedral oti exw akousei den mou fernei se metal,mallon se pio groovy-stoner katastasi ekseroumenou twn proton diskwn pou einai deathiles.
sure dude!@!@!@! :) :) :) :)



..
Epishs skepsou ti les kai skepsou kai oti theoreis tous Black Sabbath (me Ozzy) metal

[BlackMetal]

wotan tha po kati entelos ypothetiko krinontas analogika.

eimai sigouros oti an akouges metal to 91 savatage me to piano oxi mono de tha sou fainontan metal,alla pithanon na tous evazes kai sign me tin ataka "metalheads against savatage"

[Ghoul]

Oi cathedral panta vriskontan sta oria tou doom kai mesa sauta ta oria ekselisan ton hxo tous apo kykloforia se kykloforia.

[rockavlon]

asxeto alla anti gia "megalyterh apo ayth twn Wotan pantws"
diabasa meyaleleth..... hm.... interesting... doc whats hapenning ?
i can't feel my legs ? is there a brain between my ears ?

[VirusXI]

Poia stoner-groove deathiles k mpiftekia, eleos.
Anyway, oi Cathedral den exoun sxesh me to 8ema afou oloi symfwnhsame oti ekselisontai men, xwris na diaforopoioun to metal genika de.

Genika oso afora thn ekseliksh ka8enas anagnwrizei oti tonesymferei.

[Stormrider]

den ftiaxnete ena thread Cathedral ? :P

[WoTaN]

Poia stoner-groove deathiles k mpiftekia, eleos.
Anyway, oi Cathedral den exoun sxesh me to 8ema afou oloi symfwnhsame oti ekselisontai men, xwris na diaforopoioun to metal genika de.

Genika oso afora thn ekseliksh ka8enas anagnwrizei oti tonesymferei.

[necropethamenos]

asxeto alla anti gia "megalyterh apo ayth twn Wotan pantws"
diabasa meyaleleth..... hm.... interesting... doc whats hapenning ?
i can't feel my legs ? is there a brain between my ears ?

goustarame, e mounaaaaakiiii? :D

[rockavlon]

:oops: giea, y not ?
orea kopela einai, den eipa oti oti goustarw esena. tote tha mouna gay fag goth me bitsia.
DIOTI gay fags den eimata, alla me ena frampala ama baloume, ginometha kai goth ama laxei....

akakakaka.
thymhthika de kai th theiki ataka iraklh eksw apo to jasmine ki exw liwsei prwi prwi..... :D akakakakkakaka.

[necropethamenos]

:oops: giea, y not ?

den eipa egw not to!



orea kopela einai, den eipa oti oti goustarw esena.

egw omws exw megalytera vyza!

[rockavlon]

aaaax, necrodeadddd... prostyxantra.....pou paizeis kai se mpanta. twra pou to les.... tyfla na xei.... i mey (sorry luv). telika me xalase to giou kei - me ekane N'gei :P mouxaxaxaxaxaa.

zwnh agnothtas foras ? :twisted: i na rthw na se parw me spathi kai me to wotan gia koumparo ?

np. exoristoi glykeia parthena....

[necropethamenos]

zwnh agnothtas foras ?

oxi, den exei vgei sto noumero mou.

[rockavlon]

ehm. na kseroume re paidi na feroume ton klei(tori)dara.

ahem... agaphta tekna tou er, blepete thn ekseliksh enos thread pros to off topic... :P

[VirusXI]

:skase: .

[Ethir]

thymhthika de kai th theiki ataka iraklh eksw apo to jasmine ki exw liwsei prwi prwi..... :D akakakakkakaka.
Tin "eixa periodo" quote?

[rockavlon]

oxi re malaka. to allo...

[eyeamflesch]

* rogkable, oi LtH den itan pio prwtotypoi (sto styl) toys apo tous Homo Iratus opote de mas ta les kala otan ypobibazeis tous Homo logw mi prwtotypias. Kai gia na mi tharreis pws eimai biased as sou kamnw gnwsto oti otan ypirxan oi LtH thewrousa pws LtH > HI.

* sympo, des to prwto asteraki. Episis to oti bgikan cd tou mina sto xamer de simainei pws ginane anagnwrizmenoi ston xoro tous (o opoios fysika den einai apokleistika i Ellada). Prin miso xrono nomizw panwxamw bgikan periodeia eBrwpaikia me Konkhra kai ligo pio meta paiksane sto Fuck THe Commerce sti Germania. aFtes itan oi dyo periptwseis pou edwsan kapoio boost stonoma tis bandas sto kswteriko.

* Ekseliksi sti mousiki den yparxei milwntas antikeimenika.

* Eixa tin entypwsi oti to starting post den elege gia ekseliksi sto metal alla meta i entypwsi diamorfwthikie san na to lege. Bariemai na to tsekarw omws. To thema einai pws i ekseliksi sto metal (kai oxi sti mousiki genika) einai dyskolo narthei mias kai i mousiki pou tha paraxthei tha prepei na ypakoyei orizmenoys aparabatous kanones etsi wste na mporei na xaraxtiristei metal. An krinoume apo to nu-metal kai orizmena alla sygxrona nea eidi "akraias" mousikis kai tin mi apodoxi pou exoun aFta ta eidi stoys kyklys twn skyptrokratorwn tou metal tote apo kapoio simeio kai meta i "ekseliksi" den ekselissei to metal alla to metamorfwnei se kati a-metal. Apo tin alli, ama eisai starxidia sou to ti styl mousikis einai to katheti isws kai na mporeseis na fXaristitheis piotera tragoudia aposa tha fXaristitheis otan se meloun ai tampelai.[/list]

[BlackMetal]

sympo, des to prwto asteraki. Episis to oti bgikan cd tou mina sto xamer de simainei pws ginane anagnwrizmenoi ston xoro tous (o opoios fysika den einai apokleistika i Ellada). Prin miso xrono nomizw panwxamw bgikan periodeia eBrwpaikia me Konkhra kai ligo pio meta paiksane sto Fuck THe Commerce sti Germania. aFtes itan oi dyo periptwseis pou edwsan kapoio boost stonoma tis bandas sto kswteriko.

a?
den eipa tpt diaforetiko.
oso gia tin protimisi mou stous hi enanti ton lth,einai katharo thema prosopikou goustou.

[The Butcher]

* Ekseliksi sti mousiki den yparxei milwntas antikeimenika.
ayto tha mporouse na ginei i arxi gia ena endiaferon thread, alla oxi edw mesa.


* Eixa tin entypwsi oti to starting post den elege gia ekseliksi sto metal alla meta i entypwsi diamorfwthikie san na to lege.
ayto ithela na to sxoliasw k egw -opws k to poso mataia exei ginei i kouventa- alla variemai ligaki..

[warlord]

Apo tin alli, ama eisai starxidia sou to ti styl mousikis einai to katheti isws kai na mporeseis na fXaristitheis piotera tragoudia aposa tha fXaristitheis otan se meloun ai tampelai

ayto den to katalabaino. (kathisterimenos/kollhmenos mode :) )
Allo h mousikh genika (pou mou aresoun para polla pragmata) kai allo to heavy metal, to hard rock, to blues, to gothic, h pop kok..
An doso ta lefta mou gia ena disko pou exei th tampela heavy metal, perimeno na akouso kati poly sygkekrimeno. An den thelo na akouso ayto to prama, tha agoraso cd apo allo rafi gamo th poutana mou!
Gia na to po me antistoixo paradeigma tou virus, an parageilo xoirinh mprizola kai mou feroun mosxarisia, tha th gyriso piso.

Ase pou to metal apo mono tou exei 652 eidh pou mou aresoun kai den exoun sxesh metaksy tous.
Oson afora tis mixeis me alla eidh, ekei ta pragmata einai kathara ypokeimenika.

[eyeamflesch]

sympo, des to prwto asteraki. Episis to oti bgikan cd tou mina sto xamer de simainei pws ginane anagnwrizmenoi ston xoro tous (o opoios fysika den einai apokleistika i Ellada). Prin miso xrono nomizw panwxamw bgikan periodeia eBrwpaikia me Konkhra kai ligo pio meta paiksane sto Fuck THe Commerce sti Germania. aFtes itan oi dyo periptwseis pou edwsan kapoio boost stonoma tis bandas sto kswteriko.

a?
den eipa tpt diaforetiko.
oso gia tin protimisi mou stous hi enanti ton lth,einai katharo thema prosopikou goustou.


stop the madness.

apo tin katarameni elliniki skini (eleos pia) to mono group pou exei diatirithei (metaksy fthoras kai aftharsias) tosa xronia einai oi rc.
pleon den yparxei kanena group "me kafrika fonitika" pou na exei na epideiksei kapoia euryteri anagnorisi (ektos apo to mpam pou ekane to proto album ton homo iratus,alla auto mallon epeidi epaizan kati prototypo kai fresko - alla de gamietai epeidi exoun kafrika fonitika tha nai).na ypenthymiso ston agapito ethir oti to mono elliniko group pou exei akoustei paraekso ta teleutaia xronia (estw kai sto xwro tou underground) einai oi battleroar (symmetoxi sto kit - fan club - ektimisi apo tous europaious epic fans).

auta.

Sto bold part tou post sou anaferomane. Prwtotypos kai freskos gia tin Ellada isws, alla ws ekei.

By the way, alitheBei to eksis pakousa proxtes? To oti oi RC menoun stin CM (i pws " i CM krataei akoma tous RC" opws me topane) epeidi xrwstane leFta kai prepei na ksexrewsoun?

[BlackMetal]

ouarg nai etsi einai pou to les,ego to eksefrasa poly epigrammatika kai de vgike noima.
prototypo kai fresko = proto group stin ellada pou epaikse tetoio prama ---> gnosto onoma stin ellada ---> eukairia gia paraekso boost(me apotelesma ta lives pou aneferes),kathws to eidos touto anthize tote

[eyeamflesch]

Apo tin alli, ama eisai starxidia sou to ti styl mousikis einai to katheti isws kai na mporeseis na fXaristitheis piotera tragoudia aposa tha fXaristitheis otan se meloun ai tampelai

ayto den to katalabaino. (kathisterimenos/kollhmenos mode :) )
Allo h mousikh genika (pou mou aresoun para polla pragmata) kai allo to heavy metal, to hard rock, to blues, to gothic, h pop kok..
An doso ta lefta mou gia ena disko pou exei th tampela heavy metal, perimeno na akouso kati poly sygkekrimeno. An den thelo na akouso ayto to prama, tha agoraso cd apo allo rafi gamo th poutana mou!
Gia na to po me antistoixo paradeigma tou virus, an parageilo xoirinh mprizola kai mou feroun mosxarisia, tha th gyriso piso.

Ase pou to metal apo mono tou exei 652 eidh pou mou aresoun kai den exoun sxesh metaksy tous.
Oson afora tis mixeis me alla eidh, ekei ta pragmata einai kathara ypokeimenika.

aFto pou legw ein to eksis: an apofasiseis nakous monaxa metal periorizeis tin gkama twn akouzmatwn sou me apotelezma na xeis ligoteres pithanotites na goustareis osa tragoudia mporei na gousternes ama den eixes periorisei ton eaFto sou.

Simeiwsi: den arnoumai pws mporei na yparxei kapoios pou pragmatika de goustarei mi-metal mousikies kathara apo aisthitikias apopsis (diladi to pws tou kathete to kathe eidos staFti tou), alla apo proswpika empeiria kai paratirisi pisteBw pws an yparxoyn tetoioi typoi yparxoyn se apeiroelaxisto pososto kai pws to poly to pososto apotelietai apo atoma pou egklwbizontai monaxoi tous (kai den tous perithoriopoia kanenas allos prin apo tous idious tous eaFtous tous) gia na fainontai pio koul (meiwnontas px tous trentides i tous reibades) i gia allous paraplisious psyxologikous logous.

Thelw nanaferw pws sto Rastavibe festival tou 2004 eida ton kalytero kozmo pou exw dei pote sygkentrwmeno. Oloi agapimenoi kai xwris na noiazei ton allonen pws i ti einai o allos. Mporei na ftaige to oti i reggae einai mousiki tis agapis, mporei na ftaige to gegonos pws den emfanistikie kanas gko8as me binyl panteloni kai karfia na proeksexoun apton kwlo mes sto mesimeri etsi wste na prokalesei sxolia - pantws eida arketes metal mplouzes, mia i dyo itan manowar). aFti i paragrafos den exei sxesi me to topic, alla me to poso pio wraio einai otan de naziometha apokleistika kai katarxin gia to mousiko poion tou diplanous mas.

[warlord]

aFto pou legw ein to eksis: an apofasiseis nakous monaxa metal periorizeis tin gkama twn akouzmatwn sou me apotelezma na xeis ligoteres pithanotites na goustareis osa tragoudia mporei na gousternes ama den eixes periorisei ton eaFto sou

Ok man. Ousiastika den diafonoume.
Apla ego den noiotho thn anagkh na akouso ola ta eidh mousikhs se 1 cd. An thelo na akouso hip hop tha valo ena hip hop cd.
To thema einai to ekshs: oti emena den mou kathonte kala sta aytia mou ta diafora "mpastardemata", ektos apo elaxistes eksaireseis pou kai ego o idios adynato na ekshghso giati einai kathara thema prosopikou goustou.

Apo thn allh den vlepo to logo na dexome san metal otidhpote exei kithares... Den einai kako na mhn eisai metal! Kako einai na plasarese
san metal me to etsi thelo.
Gia mena ayto den einai ekseliksh, einai metallaksh. To ksero oti akougetai "kollhmeno" ayto pou leo, alla an to kaloskefteis, den einai.


Simeiwsi: den arnoumai pws mporei na yparxei kapoios pou pragmatika de goustarei mi-metal mousikies kathara apo aisthitikias apopsis (diladi to pws tou kathete to kathe eidos staFti tou), alla apo proswpika empeiria kai paratirisi pisteBw pws an yparxoyn tetoioi typoi yparxoyn se apeiroelaxisto pososto kai pws to poly to pososto apotelietai apo atoma pou egklwbizontai monaxoi tous (kai den tous perithoriopoia kanenas allos prin apo tous idious tous eaFtous tous) gia na fainontai pio koul (meiwnontas px tous trentides i tous reibades) i gia allous paraplisious psyxologikous logous.

Edo ki an symfonoume! Alla pistevo oti den isxyei mono gia tous metallades ayto. Olos o kosmos niothei thn anagkh na entaxthei se ena x synolo.

[eyeamflesch]

Simeiwsi: den arnoumai pws mporei na yparxei kapoios pou pragmatika de goustarei mi-metal mousikies kathara apo aisthitikias apopsis (diladi to pws tou kathete to kathe eidos staFti tou), alla apo proswpika empeiria kai paratirisi pisteBw pws an yparxoyn tetoioi typoi yparxoyn se apeiroelaxisto pososto kai pws to poly to pososto apotelietai apo atoma pou egklwbizontai monaxoi tous (kai den tous perithoriopoia kanenas allos prin apo tous idious tous eaFtous tous) gia na fainontai pio koul (meiwnontas px tous trentides i tous reibades) i gia allous paraplisious psyxologikous logous.

Edo ki an symfonoume! Alla pistevo oti den isxyei mono gia tous metallades ayto. Olos o kosmos niothei thn anagkh na entaxthei se ena x synolo.

aFto ennoeitai.

[Ethir]

oxi re malaka. to allo...
- Eimai lesvia
- Kai ego lesvia eimai...pao mono me ginaikes! :D