MOusikh "wrimothta"

[freak brother]

giati kathe fora pou ena sugkrothma pou paizei akraia h genika heavy mousikh allaxei ton hxo tou sto pio xalaro ...lene stis kritikes oti h mpanta wrimase...giati tis perissoteres fores otan xrhsimopoieitai h lexh wrimothta mia mpanta exei allaxei ton hxo ths pros to emporikotero?den eimai ypermaxos ths lexhs "xepoulhmenos" psaxnw mia mesh apanthsh :) kai giati den wrimazei kapoios antistrofa apto na paizei hard rock kai electro na to gurisei sto death black (ektos apo tous ulver pou xoun kanei thn kafrila) giati tote den tha vgei kapoios na pei wrimasan? dld osoi akoune kafriles kai goustaroun einai anwrimoi? kai otan tha to gurisoun sto electro pop tha einai wrimoi?kai akoma ti mporei na thewrhthei mousikh wrimothta?h yperaplousteush ths mousikhs formas me xalarous emporikous rythmous h o mousikos avnanismos me mpolika epiprostheta stoixeia na deixoume me to etsi thelw oti NAI EMEIS ALLAXAME!! ... ?

[Buddy Lackey]

ypotithetai oti o peiramatismos sti mousiki sou einai mousikh wrimansh
xwris ayto na simainei oti - allakses yfos , evgales kati kalytero apo prin.
to "one second " PX twn P.L. einai gia mena to pio wrimo album tous, alla den einai me tpt kalytero tou Icon 'h tou Draconian Times

[The Butcher]

mia proxeiri skepsi-apantisi:

otan ksekinaei ena group/mousikos k paizei akraia mousiki opws les, profanws exei kyriws epirroes apo to antistoixo fasma. me tin parodo tou kairou omws, vlepei ti mousiki pio sfairika. k otan niwsei tin anagi na paiksei k kati diaforetiko, vasismeno pithanotata sta diaforetika/nea tou akousmata, poso pio akraio einai pithano na ginei, dedomenou oti idi kinoutan se "akraio" mousiko yfos? profanws einai mallon pithanotero na emploutisei ton ixo tou me "ligotero akraia" stoixeia- giati stin teliki ayta yparxoun gyrw mas se poly megalyteri afthonia ap'oti ta "akraia". :P
elpizw na ginomai sxetika antiliptos. vevaia to ti mporei na thewrithei akraio k ti oxi einai poly sxetiko sti mousiki, gi'ayto allwste vazw k eisagwgika- anyway elpizw na apantisa kapws stin erwtisi.

oson afora twra tin "wrimotita" de nomizw oti exei sygekrimena xaraktiristika gnwrismata. k synithws de mou aresei na xrisimopoiw ton oro ayto otan milaw gia mousiki giati o kathenas antilamvanetai o,ti thelei. imo o kathe mousikos wrimazei me ton kairo, ypo tin ennoia oti anakalyptei nea pragmata k de vlepei panta ti mousiki me to idioi mati. epiprosthetws mono k mono pou zei, dexetai olo k nea erethismata apo ta opoia mporei na antlisei empneysi gia dimiourgia. to pws twra ola ayta tha "vgoun" sti mousiki tou einai poly sxetiko thema.

anyway variemai na grafw alla twra, as poun k alloi ti gnwmi tous- megali kouventa anoigeis... :P

[ang69]

Όταν ξεκολλήσεις από αυτή την καραμέλα της "εμπορικότητας" θα τα δεις όλα πιο καθαρά και δε θα χρειάζεται να κάνεις τέτοιες αφελείς ερωτήσεις περί ωριμότητας και ορισμού της.

[Stormtrooper]

Pisteyw pws tin apantisi (dexomenos ws dedomena kapoia pragmata) tin edwses monos sou freak bro.
Ti 8elw na pw:
Dexomenos kati san kafrila, amesws to parataseis se mi wrimo gia na mi pw anwrimo. Ean to Death kai to Black to dexesai ws kafrila kai oxi san ena eidos texnis (peiramatikis isws) tote to katadikazeis. Oxi pws egw den exw xrisimopoihsei tetoies ekfraseis gia agapimena mou group (Venom, Mentors, Piledriver klp) omws taytoxrona ta dexomai kai ws kati diaforetiko kai peiramatiko gia tin epoxi tous. Isws kai na min einai etsi kai isws ontws na einai kafriles me oli ti simasia tis le3is, omws ean ayto to kanw dexto stoous "ap'e3w" tote mporoun me to dikio tous na to onomasoun anwrimo. Opws kai na'xei pantws to 8ema einai oti goustarw ayti ti legomeni kafrila :dfinger:

[necropethamenos]

Eimai o IDANIKOS anthrwpos gia na apantisw s'aftin tin erwtisi.

Wrimotita einai kati pou den exei sxesi me tipota, ma TIPOTA allo ektos apo tin synolikotita me tin opoia antimetwpizei kapoios tin synthesi tou.

Pio varvaro, pio iremo, pio emporiko, flop, to idio kanei. Ola afta mporei na einai wrima i kai kafriles.

episis kales kafriles yparxoun, kales wrimes diskares episis yparxoun.

Milaw eks onomastikis peiras.

[symposium_lexotanil]

kala tora tha ksanapoume ta xilioeipomena alla de gamietai..

yparxoun polla paradeigmata gia ola ta gousta
groups pou malakosan ton ixo tous giati itan profanes oti auto tous arese na paizoun. px tiamat,the gathering,lost.to apotelesma lampro,afou ta gay (me tin kali ennoia) albums auton ton groups einai klaseis anotera apo ta proima kafrika tous (auto den isxyei toso gia tous lost).
groups pou malakosan ton ixo tous syneidita,eite gia megalyteri emporiki epityxia,eite giati den ithelan pia na paizoun kafriles (den thelo na doso kapoio paradeigma,alla eimai sigouros pos polloi tha speusoun na anaferoun groups opos oi anathema,oi sentenced kai oi rc).sautin ti periptosi to apotelesma den einai panta o,ti kalytero.
groups pou de stamatisan katholou na peiramatizontai kai na ginontai olo kai pio "akraioi" (me tin euryteri ennoia tou orou).px diaforoi norvigoi opos dhg,fleurety ktl oi opoioi ksekinisan me psilotypiko black kai kateliksan poly pio kafroi/periergoi/dyskoloakoustoi
groups pou paizoun to idio prama ksana kai ksana kai ksana.merikes fores ikanopoiontas pliros (darkthrone,xm manowar),eno alles fores prokalontas gkrinia (stratovarius,maiden,iced earth ktl).

to provlima einai oti kaneis den einai se thesi na mporei na katalavei tis protheseis (an yparxoun) tou dimiourgou/kallitexni.an eisai vevaia prokatilimenos se styl "einai emporiko ara einai skata" den yparxei periptosi na vgaleis akri.episis i emporikotita einai kati poly sxetiko kai den exei na kanei toso me tin idia ti mousiki,alla me ton tropo provolis tis.prin trianta-saranta xronia to rock/rock n roll itan i pleon emporiki kai dimofilis mousiki.de nomizo na yparxei kaneis pou na min pisteuei oti to xevimetals de tha ginei pop(ular) kai emporiko an mia mera to mtv kai to radiofono arxisoun na to provaloun averta.

[Stormtrooper]

Eimai o IDANIKOS anthrwpos gia na apantisw s'aftin tin erwtisi.

Wrimotita einai kati pou den exei sxesi me tipota, ma TIPOTA allo ektos apo tin synolikotita me tin opoia antimetwpizei kapoios tin synthesi tou.

Pio varvaro, pio iremo, pio emporiko, flop, to idio kanei. Ola afta mporei na einai wrima i kai kafriles.

episis kales kafriles yparxoun, kales wrimes diskares episis yparxoun.

Milaw eks onomastikis peiras.

Swstotatos. Megalo rolo paizei kai pws syn8etei, ixografei kai, stin poreia, antimetwpizei o kallitexnis to dimiourgima tou. H malakia, i ili8iotita, i kayla, i ore3i, i baremara kai polla alla den kribontai stin mousiki. PX tous Morbid Angel (pou den mou aresoun ka8olou) den exw akousei na tous xaraktirizoun anwrimous. Kai ayto giati oi idioi den to epetrepsan, asxeta me to oti einai brutal-satanas-unholy-antichrist Death Metal.

[freak brother]

edw propersi ginan tis modas ta karfia kai oi zwnes me sfaires kai ola ta trendy tupakia htan ntymena san tous destruction...

koita ang to emporiko den to ennow panta me thn kakh ennoia...giati px kai oi tool einai polu emporikoi alla vgalan apisteuta duskolo album... apla to emporiko san autoskopos polles fores fainetai ...

[eyeamflesch]

Ena akoma kathara ypokeimeniko thema. I mousiki wrimotita sto diko mou to kefali yparxei stin pleiopsifia (Exw gnwrisei enan monaxa mousiko pou akoloutha tin antistrofi poreia, ginetai dil me tin parodo tou xronou pio "koulos". An kai prepei na einai spania periptwsi, einai arketos wste na mi milisw apolyta.) twn mousikwn pou mathainoun nea pragmata, beltiwnoun tin texniki tous kai genika proodeBoun.

Twra, oso exei na kanei me tis allages sti mousiki merikwn sygkrotimatwn pisteBw oti xwrizontai toulaxiston se 2 katigories, a) saFtous pou allazoun ti mousiki tous proodeFtika kai b) saFtous pou ston enan disko paizoun metal kai ston epomeno brit pop. Tha protimousa tous deFterous, apo ti stigmi pou eniwthan oti theloun na paiksoun diaforetika, na kykloforousan to neo, diaforetiko dimiourgima me allo titlo.

[ang69]

edw propersi ginan tis modas ta karfia kai oi zwnes me sfaires kai ola ta trendy tupakia htan ntymena san tous destruction...

koita ang to emporiko den to ennow panta me thn kakh ennoia...giati px kai oi tool einai polu emporikoi alla vgalan apisteuta duskolo album... apla to emporiko san autoskopos polles fores fainetai ...

Ναι αλλά δεν έχει να κάνει με την ωριμότητα ή την ωρίμανση τέλος πάντων μιας μπάντας. Μπορεί κάποιοι "ωριμάζοντας" να γίνουν εμπορικότεροι και κάποιοι άλλοι να χαθούν από πρώτα ονόματα, σε στενούς κύκλους του underground. Λέμε τώρα.

Το θέμα είναι ότι δεν μπορείς να βγάλεις ένα γενικό κανόνα για την ωριμότητα στη μουσική, παρά μόνο σε σχέση με την κάθε μπάντα ξεχωριστα. Γιατί καθεμιά ξεκινάει από διαφορετικό σημείο και καταλήγει σε διαφορετικο σε σχεση με όλες τις υπόλοιπες.

[angel's decay]

dld osoi akoune kafriles kai goustaroun einai anwrimoi?

Eksartatai apo thn hlikia. de mporw na fantastw 30rh poy na akouei death metal, aktos an einai xwmenos sth skhnh kai h mousikh ayth einai meros ths zwhs tou, kai bgazei lefta apo ayth

[symposium_lexotanil]

giati sou fainetai periergo?
dld enas 30aris theoreitai arketa sovaros/sovarofanis gia na akouei death?

[Buddy Lackey]

o 29aris?

[StationEleven]

ok
wrimothta gia kapoion pou asxolhte energa me th mousikh einai na mporei na pai3ei/tragoudisei otidhpote xwris kollhmata arkei na to niw8ei (giati meta pame ston ka8aro epaggelmatismo kai mono
kai stous akroates kati paromoio
kai nai auto pisteuw EGW

[rincewind2k]

o 29aris?

29? 30? 32? oi agaphmenoi mousikoi tou angel's decay?

[Buddy Lackey]

kataktisame ti ZOUGLA

[angel's decay]

koita, twra na akous tragoudia me grylismata gia sfages, satanolagneies kai loipa skata enw eisai konta sta 30 einai ontws anwrimo. Megalo meros toy extreme metal einai gia paidakia pou theloun na tromaksoun toys goneis toys me "akraia" ekswfylla kai mplouzakia. Trantaxto paradeigma dyo skatenies mpantes, oi Cannibal Corpse kai oi Deicide. H kai oi Impaled Nazarene, God Dethroned kai de kserw kai gw ti. Pws leme power, thrash kt; exoume kai to Kid's Metal :oops:

[Kveldssanger]

Δηλαδή έχω 8 χρόνια μπροστά μου για να ξεφορτωθώ τα cd των Berzerker... Καλή φάση... Να αρχίσω να προετοιμάζομαι...

[Buddy Lackey]

e nai
afou me ta fwnhtika twn c.c. akous tous stixous kai enoxlisai kai den mporeis na akouseis tin opoia kalh mousikh tous.

[angel's decay]

gia poia mousikh milas?

[symposium_lexotanil]

koita, twra na akous tragoudia me grylismata gia sfages, satanolagneies kai loipa skata enw eisai konta sta 30 einai ontws anwrimo. Megalo meros toy extreme metal einai gia paidakia pou theloun na tromaksoun toys goneis toys me "akraia" ekswfylla kai mplouzakia. Trantaxto paradeigma dyo skatenies mpantes, oi Cannibal Corpse kai oi Deicide. H kai oi Impaled Nazarene, God Dethroned kai de kserw kai gw ti. Pws leme power, thrash kt; exoume kai to Kid's Metal :oops:


tora pou erxetai pasxa kai tha pao sto spitiko mou tha tromakso ti mana mou me to kainourgio mayhem
mpou!

[Buddy Lackey]

tin opoia kalh mousikh tous.

[StationEleven]

bghke to neo mayhem? :shock:

[symposium_lexotanil]

oxi
kai einai skata

[necropethamenos]

kai ama wrimasw pws tha lew to sygkrotima mou? :? :| :? :|

[StationEleven]

skata ?
wtf?

[rincewind2k]

koita, twra na akous tragoudia me grylismata gia sfages, satanolagneies kai loipa skata enw eisai konta sta 30 einai ontws anwrimo. Megalo meros toy extreme metal einai gia paidakia pou theloun na tromaksoun toys goneis toys me "akraia" ekswfylla kai mplouzakia. Trantaxto paradeigma dyo skatenies mpantes, oi Cannibal Corpse kai oi Deicide. H kai oi Impaled Nazarene, God Dethroned kai de kserw kai gw ti. Pws leme power, thrash kt; exoume kai to Kid's Metal :oops:

oh my goth, lack of humor detected.

[psychotron]

angel's decay, ti akribws 8a prepei n' akouei kapoios gyrw sta 30 gia na 8ewreitai "wrimos" kata thn apopsh sou?

[symposium_lexotanil]

anorimous

[warlord]

Orimothta kai malakies. Gia mena "orimothta" = varethika na paizo metal H eida oti me to metal vgazo 3+60 kai me goth gay klp mporo na konomiso kai to gyrizo se thlimenh aderfh eno eimai kai kota kai kratao to idio onoma...

[symposium_lexotanil]

aporia
einai kako na varetheis na paizeis metal?

[VirusXI]

nai, milas sto metal diskason re kefte.

[warlord]

einai kako na varetheis na paizeis metal?

tsou. Kako einai na synexizeis me to idio onoma, na stelneis promos se metal (telospanton) periodika klp klp

[symposium_lexotanil]

auto den einai ligaki antifasi?
dld stamatas na paizeis metal gia na piaseis allo akroatirio alla eksakloutheis na stoxeueis se metal dianomeis?

[necropethamenos]

Giati na allakseis onoma???
Eisai o idios, pithanotata einai kamposoi sti mpanta oi idioi, wtf?

ti kollima einai afto?!

[warlord]

auto den einai ligaki antifasi?
dld stamatas na paizeis metal gia na piaseis allo akroatirio alla eksakloutheis na stoxeueis se metal dianomeis?

e ayto den mporo na to ekshghso... Des tous Paradise Lost kai tous anathema... Ego prosopika den ksero kanena pou na tous akouei kai na mhn exei epafh me to metal (opos to ennoeite eseis dld). Mallon aytoegklovizonte sto xoro tou metal (etaireies, dianomeis, periodika klp).


Giati na allakseis onoma???
Eisai o idios, pithanotata einai kamposoi sti mpanta oi idioi, wtf?

ti kollima einai afto

To onoma ekfrazei to metal parelthon sou. Afou apostasiopoihse apo ayto, to timio einai na allakseis kai onoma. Allios apla ekmetalleyese th vash opadon pou exeis dhmiourghsei. Px Metallica.

[The Butcher]

e ayto den mporo na to ekshghso... Des tous Paradise Lost kai tous anathema... Ego prosopika den ksero kanena pou na tous akouei kai na mhn exei epafh me to metal (opos to ennoeite eseis dld). Mallon aytoegklovizonte sto xoro tou metal (etaireies, dianomeis, periodika klp).
k omws yparxoun atoma pou tous akoun k den exoun k megali sxesi me to metal, teleytaia dld kyriws arxizoun na emfanizontai aytoi- k ayto meta apo prospatheies twn sygrotimatwn aytwn na akoustoun k se mi metal koino. ntaksei, ap'tin alli pisteyw einai logiko na tous akoun kyriws atoma sxetika me to metal (me ton ena i ton allo tropo), afou apo kapou ksekinisan, k me kapoio sygekrimeno tropo exoun ws twra prowthithei. eidika otan exeis na kaneis me epityximena groups den allazoun ola etsi apla, akoma k an ta idia ta groups to ithelan (vl. anathema)


To onoma ekfrazei to metal parelthon sou. Afou apostasiopoihse apo ayto, to timio einai na allakseis kai onoma. Allios apla ekmetalleyese th vash opadon pou exeis dhmiourghsei. Px Metallica.
ayto imo einai lathos. dld ok ontws oloi syndeoun to onoma enos group me kapoion sygekrimeno ixo, omws de tha eprepe na gintai ayto. giati aploustata kat'ayton ton tropo o kallitexnis periorizetai i telospantwn mporei na niwsei periorismenos. osoi ta'xoun grapsei st'arxidia tous ayta egw de nomizw oti einai "prodotes" alla mallon ypervolika "egwistes" gia to koino to opoio asxoleitai mazi tous k ana pasa stigmi mporei na tous theopoiei/thavei me tin idia eykolia.
k sigoura den einai ekmetalleysi i doloplokia i oti allo sxetiko. k mi mou peite gia ksepoulima klp giati katalavainete kala oti de milaw gi'ayto. s'ola osa eipa thewrw oti o mousikos ypokineitai apokleistika k mono apo tin anagi tou gia ekfrasi mesw tis texnis. peite me ilithio alla etsi thelw na vlepw ta pragmata. k an pote nomisw oti kapoios me douleyei de tou dinw simasia aplws...

anyway, megales syzitiseis... :P

[symposium_lexotanil]

Des tous Paradise Lost kai tous anathema... Ego prosopika den ksero kanena pou na tous akouei kai na mhn exei epafh me to metal (opos to ennoeite eseis dld). Mallon aytoegklovizonte sto xoro tou metal (etaireies, dianomeis, periodika klp).


to oti stin ousia den mporoun na proselkysoun allo akroatirio ektos apo metallades (me tin euryteri ennoia,opos to ennooume EMEIS) de sou leei kati?

[Kingryche]

Den nomizo pos exei akrivos na kanei me orimotita i oli allagi tis mousikis katefthinsis mias mpantas.
Einai logiko merikoi mousikoi na koresroun apo ena mousiko eidos kapoia stigmi kai na prospathisoun i na dokimasoun ena allo mousiko ifos i na to prosmiksoun me ton ixo pou tous exei xaraktirisei.
Alla sigrotimata ta katafernoun kai sinexizoun na exoun epitixia,alla apotigxanoun alla sinexizoun kai alla apotigxanoun kai ksanagirizoun sto palio ifos tous.
Tis pio polles fores den mou fainetai mia allagi oti ginetai gia na apodeiksei to group oti orimase.Apla sta sigrotimata pou mas aresoun einai orimotita kai proodos eno se afta pou den mas aresoun einai ksepoulima kai katantia ktl.Apo tous Gathering kai tous Metallica, tous My Dying Bride kai tous Paradise Lost, tous Ulver kai tous Amorphis, tous Anathema kai tous Queensryche.
Oi Dream Theater den ekseliksan ton ixo tous kai paizontas pio "irema" alla kai sklirainontas?

[necropethamenos]

To onoma ekfrazei to metal parelthon sou. Afou apostasiopoihse apo ayto, to timio einai na allakseis kai onoma. Allios apla ekmetalleyese th vash opadon pou exeis dhmiourghsei. Px Metallica.

Ma ti les twra????
To onoma sou afora to poios eisai, oxi to ti thymizei i oxi i mousiki sou!!!!

Diladi einai kaneis anagkasmenos na paizei panta me ton idio tropo kai an oxi na allaksei onoma giati den thymizei stous akroates ton palio tous ixo?

Einai sa na mou les ama adynatisw na paw sto liksiarxeio na allaksw epwnymo giati de tha thymizw ton klassiko emena pou einai xontros!!!

[StationEleven]

egw to briskw poly kalo pantws na se akoun kai na se anagnwrizoun opadoi diaforetikwn mousikwn stereo-matwn

[morphine]

kai epishs exete skeftei pote thn pi8anothta kapoios mousikos na mhn akouei mono ena eidos mousikhs, kat'epektash se kapoia fash ths zwhs tou na 8elhsei na pai3ei kati allo? Den einai oloi kollhmenoi me to iero xevimetals kai den katalavainw to logo gia ton opoio 8a eprepe.
Na parw tous anathema gia paradeigma pou m'aresoun kiolas- ta palikaria akoune beatles XRONIA twra. Wtf, sto liverpool zoun. 3ekinhsan na paizoun auta pou epaizan kai stadiaka eftasan edw pou eftasan. Twra, meta apo tosa xronia, fainontai oi epirroes tous apo to sugkekrimeno sugkrothma. Kai giati oxi sthn telikh. Den einai upoxrewmenos kaneis na paizei ta idia skata gia panta gia na mhn apogohteusei tous "opadous".

[freak brother]

polles bantes exoun side projects pou paizoun allh mousikh pantws

[psychotron]

Den einai oloi kollhmenoi me to iero xevimetals kai den katalavainw to logo gia ton opoio 8a eprepe.
xevimetal or no metal at all
MANOWAR

[Serpent_Sun]

giati kathe fora pou ena sugkrothma pou paizei akraia h genika heavy mousikh allaxei ton hxo tou sto pio xalaro ...lene stis kritikes oti h mpanta wrimase..

vasika asxeto me ayto pou isws 8es na peis..alla xerw oti polles bantes wrimasan kai ginane pio ''brutal''...twra pali gia tis kritikes an tous skane ta fraga ti 8es na lene..apo aytous trwne re...an tous 8apsoune olous (pou twra teleytaia den einai kai polloi aytoi pou den einai gia 8apsimo...)
8a xemeinoune apo douleies kai bla bla bla.. kai osoi lene oti wrimase ena group stin kritiki tous koita kai alles kritikes ka8ws kai to shma pou dinei to label tis band na deis panw katw ta idia pragmata..akoma 8ymamai tis kritikes sto jetster race apo in flames kai koitaw kai tis kritikes sta teleytaia album tous...akoma gelaw edw kai tosa xronia..ena group pou tote den eixe poly support apo tin nuclear kai to amelousane polloi..twra omws pou vgazei xeirotera koita tis kritikes ta exwfylla kai bla bla bla.. ayta...ola einai 8ema xrhmatwn..ta labels taizoune ta periodika kai oi distributors se ka8e xwra..apo kei kai pera einai ti goustareis esy..gi ayto ta kopsa ta periodika edw kai 4 xronia...na pane na gamh8oune

[Une_Saison_En_Enfer]

Ωριμος ειναι ενας μουσικος που εχει βρει τι τον αντιπροσωπευει στη μουσικη και εχει βρει τον τροπο να το εκφρασει καλυτερα ασχετα απο το ειδος που παιζει και απο το ποσες φορες εχεις αλλαξει στυλ.

[Serpent_Sun]

nai ok mexri na niwsei oti 8elei na xanallaxei i vare8ei kai to kopsei ekei..

[asimoulis]

koita, twra na akous tragoudia me grylismata gia sfages, satanolagneies kai loipa skata enw eisai konta sta 30 einai ontws anwrimo. Megalo meros toy extreme metal einai gia paidakia pou theloun na tromaksoun toys goneis toys me "akraia" ekswfylla kai mplouzakia. Trantaxto paradeigma dyo skatenies mpantes, oi Cannibal Corpse kai oi Deicide. H kai oi Impaled Nazarene, God Dethroned kai de kserw kai gw ti. Pws leme power, thrash kt; exoume kai to Kid's Metal


twra niwthw opws o rincewind2k otan eipa oti o wes borland xeinei sti mapa ton petrucci...auto einai empristiko post...

xilia signwmi rince... de kanw plaka...

@angels de-gay
gamw ton theo sou kai ti mana tou tin panagia tin poutana
(kai sou dinw dwro mia pena)

[rincewind2k]

eipes se mena oti o borland xynei ton petrucci kai me enoiakse?

[rockavlon]

ntaks ? malakies - sas barese kai tous 2 o boreland kalyteros tou petroucci :P sure, ki egw kalyteros tou malmsteen :P

basika - den kserw ti lete gia ta mags, alla sto invader, thabame oti thelame. metallica - pairnane tous assous enw allou pairnane 8aria :P
den kolwname se tetoia :P mhpws kolosame na baloume 2 sto iced earth ?
pou nai kai trou. ? e??? kapou kai o reviewer exei dikaiwma na pei thn apopsh tou. px merikes fores, i wrimansh kai o peiramatismos mporei nanai petyxhmena :P merikes pali oxi.

[rockavlon]

ntaks ? malakies - sas barese kai tous 2 o boreland kalyteros tou petroucci :P sure, ki egw kalyteros tou malmsteen :P

basika - den kserw ti lete gia ta mags, alla sto invader, thabame oti thelame. metallica - pairnane tous assous enw allou pairnane 8aria :P
den kolwname se tetoia :P mhpws kolosame na baloume 2 sto iced earth ?
pou nai kai trou. ? e??? kapou kai o reviewer exei dikaiwma na pei thn apopsh tou. px merikes fores, i wrimansh kai o peiramatismos mporei nanai petyxhmena :P merikes pali oxi.

bTW oi god dethroned gamoune kai dernoune ... na tromakseis tous goneis sou ? isws :P an kai egw akouw mousikh gia na ftiaxnomai - oxi gia na parathroun oi trigyrw :P i maybe a pozer.. alla akouw kai mpoulntozer :P

[Stormtrooper]

i maybe a pozer.. alla akouw kai mpoulntozer :P

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

[TheWS*]

Hmm..poly wrimo topic.M'aresei..Alla tha kanw post avrio..Twra tha paw na kanw prova se..diafora"wrima" tragoudia.. :?: :!: :?: :!:

[psychotron]

..eipe meta apo wrimh skepsh

[StationEleven]

WS giati kardia mou argiseeeeeesssss

[cloud]

Yparxoun para polla groups twn opoiwn to ntempouto emeine klassiko kai pote den kataferan na kseperasoun (px oi Rage against the machine), kai alla group pou xreiastikan 2-3(h kai pollous parapanw kapoies fores) diskous gia na grapsoun to prwsopiko tous aristourghma. Ara o oros mousikh wrimothta den stekei kai poly nomizw. An pali ton sysxetizoume me thn emporikothta h thn elleipsh ths, h to kata poso akraio einai kati, einai teleiws lathos imho.

[TheWS*]

WS giati kardia mou argiseeeeeesssss

Ade re!!!Kai den to eixera!!!Pfouuu......Ehasa kai to ...Traino :lol: :lol: :lol: Tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!

[One_Second]

den kserw, pantws mou SPANE TA ARXIDIA osoi einai kollhenoi me 2-3 diskous twn Paradise Lost kai thewroun "ksepoulimena" ta ypoloipa. An oi Holmes kai Mackintosh menane se kafriles, h skoteinh moysikh tha exane koryfaious diskous. Kai sth poutsa mou oti ki an leei o Karagiannis kai oi alloi malakes. Ante liwste to Shades of God kai to Gothic kai mh mas ta spate...

[eyeamflesch]

ok
wrimothta gia kapoion pou asxolhte energa me th mousikh einai na mporei na pai3ei/tragoudisei otidhpote xwris kollhmata arkei na to niw8ei (giati meta pame ston ka8aro epaggelmatismo kai mono
kai stous akroates kati paromoio
kai nai auto pisteuw EGW

Mporeis na paikseis NS black metal i mipws eisai kollimenos?

[eyeamflesch]

koita, twra na akous tragoudia me grylismata gia sfages, satanolagneies kai loipa skata enw eisai konta sta 30 einai ontws anwrimo. Megalo meros toy extreme metal einai gia paidakia pou theloun na tromaksoun toys goneis toys me "akraia" ekswfylla kai mplouzakia. Trantaxto paradeigma dyo skatenies mpantes, oi Cannibal Corpse kai oi Deicide. H kai oi Impaled Nazarene, God Dethroned kai de kserw kai gw ti. Pws leme power, thrash kt; exoume kai to Kid's Metal :oops:

Eisai mpoufakos :lol:

[StationEleven]

ok
wrimothta gia kapoion pou asxolhte energa me th mousikh einai na mporei na pai3ei/tragoudisei otidhpote xwris kollhmata arkei na to niw8ei (giati meta pame ston ka8aro epaggelmatismo kai mono
kai stous akroates kati paromoio
kai nai auto pisteuw EGW

Mporeis na paikseis NS black metal i mipws eisai kollimenos?

de 3erw ti sto dialo einai to NS alla nai mporw na bgalw kai black metal fash
kai de poulaw mourh , etsi einai

[eyeamflesch]

ok
wrimothta gia kapoion pou asxolhte energa me th mousikh einai na mporei na pai3ei/tragoudisei otidhpote xwris kollhmata arkei na to niw8ei (giati meta pame ston ka8aro epaggelmatismo kai mono
kai stous akroates kati paromoio
kai nai auto pisteuw EGW

Mporeis na paikseis NS black metal i mipws eisai kollimenos?

de 3erw ti sto dialo einai to NS alla nai mporw na bgalw kai black metal fash
kai de poulaw mourh , etsi einai

[01:28:35] <YURUSHI> obsolete to ethnososialistikos sta germanika pws einai?
[01:30:02] <YURUSHI> ang69
[01:30:22] <obsolete> de mou'rxetai
[01:30:56] <ravencult> YURUSHI
[01:30:57] <ravencult> an rotages
[01:30:58] <ravencult> genika
[01:31:00] <ravencult> olo to kanali
[01:31:01] <ravencult> tha sou lega
[01:31:05] <ravencult> alla auto pou ekanes ito prosvoli
[01:31:09] <ravencult> kai den prokeitai na sou apantiso
[01:31:19] <ravencult> parolo pou gnorizo tin apantisi sto erotima pou se flegei
[01:31:42] <obsolete> giati vgainoun dates olo gia faghto sto sex and the city?
[01:32:07] <YURUSHI> obsolete ela re kati se National Socializesesesen me germanikia kataliksi einai
[01:32:36] <VirusXI> "o erwtas perna apto stomaxi"
[01:32:56] <obsolete> YURUSHI de mou'rxetai
[01:33:01] <YURUSHI> ravencult pes to
[01:33:36] <ravencult> YURUSHI oxi
[01:33:44] <YURUSHI> obsolete sori e, aplws nomiza oti mias kai kses deutsch thasebgaine natourlix, oxi oti tha xreiazeto apomimoneFsis
[01:33:53] <YURUSHI> ravencult tis miteras sou

Poustraki o sympo :/

[StationEleven]

ok katalaba ns = kati nazistiko telospantone :P

[ang69]

Nationalsozialismus.

[TheWS*]

http://www.chriscaffery.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/wtf.png

[pitchfork]

koita, twra na akous tragoudia me grylismata gia sfages, satanolagneies kai loipa skata enw eisai konta sta 30 einai ontws anwrimo. Megalo meros toy extreme metal einai gia paidakia pou theloun na tromaksoun toys goneis toys me "akraia" ekswfylla kai mplouzakia. Trantaxto paradeigma dyo skatenies mpantes, oi Cannibal Corpse kai oi Deicide. H kai oi Impaled Nazarene, God Dethroned kai de kserw kai gw ti. Pws leme power, thrash kt; exoume kai to Kid's Metal :oops:
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[symposium_lexotanil]

e esy den eisai konta pleon

[TheWS*]

Egw omos eimai.. :wink:..konta ston pichfork

[pitchfork]

...Megalo meros toy extreme metal einai gia paidakia pou theloun na tromaksoun toys goneis toys me "akraia" ekswfylla kai mplouzakia....
μαμάαα....
ΒΟΟ

Egw omos eimai.. :wink:..konta ston pichfork
στο μυαλό ή σ αυτά που λέει η ταυτότητα?

[TheWS*]

Tavtotita baby :twisted: .Alla ama nomizeos oti eisai kai exypnos/exypnh..vale kai allo ena vathmo sto myalo..

[atom_smasher]

wrimothta.periergos oros.e3hghsh den uparxei giati allo pragma ennoei o enas allo o allos.allo dhlwnei o enas allo o allos.egw krinw auto pou akouw.wrimo 3e wrimo xestika.mou aresei nai.alliws xestika gia thn wrimansh tou.ase pou meta thn wrimansh erxetai to sapisma!egw eimai wrimos.3erw ti thelw.