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Akougodas ta 2 ekpliktika demo-ep perimenoume ti diskara pou tha klisei polla stomata kai tha dixei oti to alithino HEAVY METAL den exei pethanei...simfwna me egires piges ap tin eteria pou tha exei tin tinmh na to kikloforisei(greg rulez 8) ) telh Maiou tha nai stin agora..ALL HAIL WOTAN!!
{NightStalker}
27-03-2004, 17:24
/me dinei ston axeman to tsekouri tou
The Butcher
27-03-2004, 18:39
mmm de thewrw ta demo twn wotan "ekpliktika". apeythynontai sigoura se sygekrimeno koino. twra de kserw makari o diskos na kleisei stomata alla den to vlepw k toooso pithano...
...k apovalete ayti tin anasfaleia sas sxetika me to an to heavy metal exei pethanei- giati to na tonizete synexeia to antitheto anasfaleia deixnei panw ap'ola. ase pou den perimename tous wotan na to apodeiksoun e!
poios eipe stin teliki oti exei pethanei? k giati prepei na ton pistepsoume? heavy metal lives on! \m/ :D
rockavlon
27-03-2004, 18:45
karmina paparika - to innoxia pou akousa den mporei me tpt na sygkrithei me to megaleio twn manowar, poso mallon na tous kseperasei.
mia diaskjeuh bebaia pou eixa akousei se manowar me karabootleg hxo - nomiza oti htan oi manowar !? tespa.
The Butcher
27-03-2004, 18:46
kala k aytos o xaraktirismos "oi neoi manowar" poly viastikos, k imo teleiws akyros.
proswpiki apopsi e! :wink:
Buddy Lackey
27-03-2004, 18:49
min pareksigite ton axeman kai eseis an akougate metal mono 2 xronia to poli ta idia tha legate
peri wotan - ena song pou exw akousei kai einai gia na mpei sto neo album , einai poli epiko elpidoforo.
vevaia ok mpanta 10 kai vale xronwn pou exei mexri stigmis mono ena demo kai ena ep .. den mporei na theoritai mpantara ... 'h empneusmenh
tespa.
The_Painless
27-03-2004, 18:50
Μεγάλη αναμονή έχει πέσει γι' αυτό το Wotan και Wotan δε βλέπουμε :(
Angrafan
27-03-2004, 18:55
to alithino HEAVY METAL den exei pethanei
ti esti alithino HEAVY METAL?
oxi mhn mou peis sigkrothmata, gia to alithino HEAVY METAL thelw na mou peis
Angrafan:epidi variemai na sou exigiso egw an xereis agglika pou xereis epidi spoudazeis sto exoteriko apla pigene sto: http://archaeonia.com/80smetalmaniax/cult.htm i apadisi stin erotisi pou etheses tha dothei me kathe leptomeria
Buddy Lackey:Prwton efoson de me xereis mi milas gia to atomo mou,deyteron den akouw metal 2 xronia to poly opos ironika eipes an k alla paidia stin ilikia mu(18 sta 19 eimai gia opion endiaferetai) akune toso....an exeis kati prosopiko mazi mou xidaki einai i lisi i k na ti vroume ti lisi mazi re paidi mou.den in kakooooo...kai triton to oti ena sigrotima 10 xronon exei perioristei se 2 demo-ep de paei na pei oti den einai k mpantara.Alla fysika oyte tralala power metal epeze oyte nu malakies gia na to prosegisoun oi etairies..
O xaraktirismos neoi MANOWAR fysika einai lathos kathws einai poly viastikos alla kaneis de borei na amfisvitisei fysika oti exoun epireastei oso liges bandes tou epic metal ap tous vasiliades tou Metal.
Witchkiller
27-03-2004, 19:24
To demo de mou arese.O Warlord pou exei akousei kapoia kainouria kommatia mou eipe oti einai kala.Prepei n'akousw.Makari na'nai kati kalo.
Buddy Lackey
27-03-2004, 19:26
to keimeno to xei grapsei o AEON? end of story
Avoiding to term thrash and death as “Metal” was a deliberate choice, since both of these clones were an aggressive blend of Heavy Metal and punk (admittedly in different proportions for each band) whose ideology was extensively poisoned by the negation and narrow-mindedness of the punk movement. This led with mathematical precision to the suffocating saturation and demise of both genres. “Whoever turns against the revolution finally becomes part of the system” (punctual and befitting remark of an old friend).
:rofl:
Buddy Lackey
27-03-2004, 19:29
These uncompromised, non-conformist individuals who consciously chose to be summoned together in friendly companies, brotherhoods, street gangs, music bands and small communities decided to forge an unbreakable bond along with their keen and gradually rose to become the bred idealists of a subtle Social Revolution. Thus, what began as yet another music genre soon developed into an entire movement…a stance of life!
....
The frantic rhythm, the bombastic intensity and the rebellious lyrics of the music they fanatically adhered to, delivered a deafening attack to the spoiled ears (and mentalities) of the rich, the sissies, the posers, the extortionists, the emotionally rotten and the declined indoctrinators that preached but did not practice. This is the prime reason why the mainstream never ceased to view them as outcasts, heretics and a threat to be either ostracized or eliminated
Only the true (2) Metalheads, that assimilated the traditionally revolutionary core of Heavy Metal, managed to remain solid and intact through the passing of years. They were the ones to have survived almost two decades in the underground dungeons without fading further, at the same moments that their surroundings were collapsing. The music industry has transformed into a profit-at-all-costs organization. Remaining the ever persistent, warrior-spirited believers they have always been, they possess the required momentum to genuinely revive the movement into its previous glory, given the luxury of the appropriate circumstances. Coiled back into a pronymphic cryonic stage, they patiently await the coming of the tide, accumulating energy until they achieve the desired critical mass point that shall force them to explode like a chained nuclear reaction. Many of them maintain that this time lies, not all that distant, ahead of us…
:rofl:
proteinw i page na mpei ws episimi selida pollwn
i skepsi oti tin egrapse o AEON tis dinei +
rockavlon
27-03-2004, 19:33
megale oxi "polemistes" kai "nikhtes" kai paparies... psiloagamhtoi with no better things to do. ti sysphrwseis kai paparies :P ntaks bges me tous filous sou se ena mpar, spasta kan th fash sou, akou ti mosuikh sou porwsou, alla giati a way of life kai paparies kai na prepei na sygxrwtizesai me atoma pou exoun ideologia kai paparies :P
arrwsthmeno. ntaks - to heavy exei parei oligon ton poulo paroti arketoi to sthrizoun :P kalws i kakws. MEXRI pou na bgei mia klassikh mpanta
me olh th shmasia tou orou. pxi auta pou lene ta periodika...masterpiece kai masterpiece... OTAN me to kalo bgoun oi epomenoi manowar, i rainbow i otidhpote pou tha me kanei na righsw... tote tha goustarw.
alla ntaks ta misa TRUE exoun eunouxous, ta alla misa ta trouli-cult true- exoun typous pou den exoun fwnes ektos apo spanies periptwseis.
OPOTE DE GAMIETAI KAI TO TRUE KAI TO NU kai to OLD :P ATELEIWTH PAPAROLOGIA exei katanthsei :P AX EIMAI KAKOS EIMAI METALLAS :P
The Butcher
27-03-2004, 19:33
yea k egw diavasa to keimeno k fovithika omologw!
xalarwste re paidia...
poios einai aytos o AEON?
lost_icon
27-03-2004, 19:35
apo daftous exw to thunderstorm cd tous,omologw oti orismena kommatia htan wraia alla apla wraia,kai gia thn tampela pou tous exoun kollhsei "NEOI MANOWAR" 1on tous adikei,2on den prokeitai na plhsiasoun tis tote epikes syntheseis twn manowar kai 3on gia ta 10 xronia yparkshs tous 1 ep kai 1 demo einai ena TPT!.
p.s. kai mhn arxisete tis mphxtes peri nu metal (vlepe wotan) :D
Buddy Lackey
27-03-2004, 19:36
poios einai aytos o AEON?
o gkomenos tis pamela (vlepe Saxon live topic)
aka hellenic hawk
Witchkiller
27-03-2004, 19:43
Apokleietai na einai o Xrhstos.Mou exei pei oti goustarei thrash karga.Edw mou eipe oti xtypise Bulldozer epanakykloforeies (xwris plaka).Ki egw parakseneytika alla einai aleithia.
The Butcher
27-03-2004, 19:43
poios einai aytos o AEON?
o gkomenos tis pamela (vlepe Saxon live topic)
aka hellenic hawk
a, entaksei tote!
( :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: )
Buddy Lackey
27-03-2004, 19:48
katw katw leei "content by AEON"
ara aytos einai ..
mallon
Buddy Lackey
27-03-2004, 20:04
en tw metaksi sto metal history lene oti to nu einia metal , petres petw tou feggariou
pame stous wotan pali
Witchkiller
27-03-2004, 21:50
Ksanalew,xlwmo na einai o Xrhstos.To paidi goustarei trela Thrash.Edw sto BB eixe grapsei kai gia Morbd Angel (sobarologw).
O AEON einai.
kai Antoni,se ehw se videokaseta proti sira Wotan na xyneis sto live kai na ta dineis ola,opote asta afta kai paradosu sto kafto epic
Buddy Lackey
27-03-2004, 22:56
hah
ok den arnoumai oti to demo maresei (poly)
alla prospathw na xtisw ena anoixtomyalo status twra edw mi mou to xalas!
elpizw na postareis syxna
rockavlon
28-03-2004, 00:18
edw thelw na pw mia "xontrada" to mono ahem as poume sobaro epico group apo italia, apo pleuras paiksimatos kai tragoudisth, einai oi RHAPSODY. mporei nanai flwroi-stroumfakia, na paizei na paizei o paeth anti o katourili tis kithares, mporei na exoun asteious sxetika stixous kai o tragoudisths tous na mhn kserei agglika, alla toulaxiston exei ektash kai einai kallifwnos. exoun ena drummer pou gamaei kai dernei e mporei na xoun klepsei kai opoia italikh tarantella yparxei alla so what. na ypenthimisw oti tous manatzarei o pollys kyrio di-aprilio... twn womanowar. giati den phre kapoio allo apo ta epica group tis italias ?
auta....
Ba,bika apla na poulisw ligo antilogia ston witchkiller alla mou to halasane. Den ehw kamia dulia dw mesa. Alla de katalavainw giati an den iothetiseis tin ducknozikh taktikh (ashetos apo metal-ironia-NU) theorisai malakas dw mesa kai stoxos eirwnias. Ama sou aresei to Thunderstorm giati na to pezeis metriopathis? gia na se ektimisune pio poly edw mesa kai na eisai ena me ta kuradia kai na kaneis meeting sto texas?
rockavlon
28-03-2004, 01:14
ena kaneis ena meeting me tous sympolemistes stous mounilla road kai fwrate tis perikefalaies kai pate gia soublakia - ki einai EPOC h fash.
rokavlon de pas na gamitheis,de thimamai na su apifthina to logo.trava pare kana glifomuni se kana hibatzi kai meta skapse ena lako kai pese mesa. i kalitera pare mia armathia ksila kai trava na kaeis. trimalaka tirovlaxe,sou gamietai i iparksi sou oloi kai apeiroi iranoi fantaroi kanune party stin fardemenh sou kolara kathws o Shelton tragudaei to Hour of the Dragon.
Buddy Lackey
28-03-2004, 01:31
kyr. coolare
den to paizw metriopathis ( eidika gia tous logous pou les ) .. kyriws ithela na tin pw ston mordred 13
kai genika sto ypervoliko hype peri carmina barbarica, ok as vgei kai as milisoume gia ayto , 3 xronia akouw ayton ton titlo kai apotelesma zero.
Antoni, egw milusa se sena,kai den prokite na haristw se kanenane ama pulaei ironia gia tin agapimenh mu banta.telos pantwn,to Carmina Barbarica vgenei se dio mhnes. akuse to TOTE,me tin sosti paragwgh (to Under...ine ousiastika mia prova perasmenh se cd) kai meta,sizitame,kai an de su aresei tha ime harumenos na to dextw kai na sizitisw mazi sou giati de su aresei.
Buddy Lackey
28-03-2004, 01:40
:D
sweet
pantws sou lew na kaneis posts edw , den einai kai asxhma , tha deis.
e nai kyrgiako kala leei to paidi opos sto temple les MANOWAR k sou petagode 10 malakes na poune ti paparia tous etsi k dw an miliseis gia epic metal peftoun panw sou..
Badi laki trava akouse kana dream theater k min asxolisai me mena
k to an gamane oi theoi WOTAN i oxi tha to doume se ligo kairo...
Angrafan
28-03-2004, 02:01
pou na miliseis gia power
Buddy Lackey
28-03-2004, 02:03
Axeman ase afta ta tsiflikota tertipia "trava akou kana dream theater kai ase me mena" kai kane tin anadromi sto xroniko diastima mexri prin 1 xrono (kai poli lew) opou sou legan oloi akou bathory kai esi koroideves.
hahah nai opos ta les einai progresiva mou esyyyyyyyyyyy haha
Buddy Lackey
28-03-2004, 02:07
haha nai etsi opws ta lew einai o progressivas egw haha
otan egw akouga bathory esy akuges floroprogressive bandoules k xekola apo mena giati de to xw gia ligo na anevw panw k na lisume to provlimataki su bouli
Angrafan
28-03-2004, 02:08
pios kathorizei poia mousikh einai flwrikh kai poia oxi?
Buddy Lackey
28-03-2004, 02:12
o Axeman
megas antiflwromusicas
Axeman - sta live pou pas paw kai egw, opote ela kaneis osa eipes san megas tranos epikos antras pou pes
To Under The Sign Of... einai h pio apotyxhmenh agora mou ever. neoi Manowar? ha!
anyway mh leme kai polla polla, ta gousta pleon 8igoun.
Hellenic Hawk
28-03-2004, 02:57
Vre vre..ta tsoutsekia piasan douleia vlepw.
A) Witchkiller (xairetismous ston Niko), fysika kai akouw kai Bulldozer, Blessed Death, Mandator, Hexx, opws kai ena karo gnwstes kai spanioteres thrash mpantes twn 80s (me polles ek twn opoiwn megalwsa...thn epoxh dhladh pou oi dh8en kafroi tou shmera ma8ainan akoma na perpatoune). Astous na lene. Makarioi oi ptwxoi tw pneumati!
B) Vodi Lake kai oi loipoi metexontes ths gyftoprogressive ypokoltouras, profanws de me gnwrizeis alla tis paparies sou ksereis kai tis petas. Fysika den eisai para allo ena behind-the-monitor-geek pou ws kalos argosxolos xanei to Savattovrado tou na ksekatiniazetai mprosta sthn o8onh tou. Ka8ws kata vash den asxoloumai me to sourgeloforum sas (exoume kai sovarotera pragmata na kanoume sth zwh mas), alla epeidh mou sfyriksan oti kapoioi apo esas edw mesa ton paizoun omadika, 8a grapsw 2 logakia mono kai meta ws synh8ws thn epomenh dekaetia pali (an den exete autokatargh8ei ws tote): tis mpourditses me to panarxaio outws 'h allws log ths dh8en Pamela mporeis na tis valeis ekei pou ksereis. Edw den ntraphke o idios o malakopitouras pou to epaize gkomena (na xarw kati antres), 8a ntrapw egw? re oust..koprites ftwxompinedes. Elleipsei epixeirhmatwn, mono kati tetoies malakioules kserete na epikaleiste. Diolou den ekplhssomai se telikh analysh...
C) 8a htan psemma na pw oti oi Wotan mou polyaresoun (eidika o tragoudisths, opws pollakis exw dhlwsei, syxna akougetai san na kanei gargares me Betadin)
D) Epeidh o ka8enas kovei kai ravei ws synh8ws oti tou kapnisei apo ta legomena mou, 8a tonisw gia allh mia fora oti apopoioumai tous neoteuktous orous "true metal" kai "true metalheads" meta vdelygmias. An empaine to eirwniko kataka8i kai dystyxhsas neopas Vodi Lakes ston kopo na proxwrhsei to paste tou ligo, 8a diavaze oti:
(2) True = conscious metalheads, who conceive their favorite music as a sacred artistic quality, an extension of themselves and, in the long run, a lifelong attitude to which they faithfully adhere. This term should not be confused with the music played by those so-called (and only recently flourished) “true metal” bands. Some of them might indeed be based on classic heavy metal, while others tend to appear hilariously uninspired to the bone, sad caricatures of the past...
Cya the next decade, l00zers
P.S: Opoios me ksanavalei sto vrwmostoma tou en apousia mou, na ton piasei loksyggas mexri 8anatou
Buddy Lackey
28-03-2004, 03:03
ti geek re gialantzi ntolma ?
apodexesai oti esy isoun sto log tis pamelas?
diladi eisai ontws 1.88 me athlitiko kormi?
tyfla na exei o sougklakos (kai egw)
lost_icon
28-03-2004, 03:54
eeee re enas tolhs tsimogiannhs tha sas ferei ston isio dromo (apefthinomenos se olous tous epic warriors kai heros). :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
rockavlon
28-03-2004, 05:13
giea giea, an o shelton borouse na tragoudhsei kiola.... oxi oti den mporei, alla exei thn pio athlia xreia pou exw akousei EVER. kai partouzes me mpampouinous kai glarous na kanw den allazei :P
ti ti lete sto sympolemisth sta dogohouses kwstakh :P ? otan tha paizei o shelton, emeis tha maste sthn alpha bank, ston george ton pearl, me trela mwra :P etsi gia thn intrigka. Asxeto alla edw oi CIRITH m aresoun pou den exoun strwta fwnhtika, alla manilla me TPT. Perimenw na akousw to carmina barbarica, na dw ki egw, tous diadoxous tou true epic :P ante - 2 mhnes einai autoi. tha mai o prwtos pou tha zhthsw sygnwmh an einai ontws anwtero ton manowar, alla exwntas akousei to innoxia, pws sto diaolo legetai, pou mou to eipane ap ta kalytera tou diskou, den mou shkwthike kai i trixa, kaloutsiko, alla ws ekei.Pali asxeto ntaks, magkia tou Grhgorh pou fernei mpantes pou de tha erxontousan alliws. auto ton tima. AUTA. a re poutana agglia, cloven hanw, alla ti na ginei tha tous doumw in the future.
Dragonlord
28-03-2004, 15:28
Χμ βαριέμαι να διαβάσω τρεις σελίδες.Πάντως εγώ τους αγαπάω τους Βόταν γιατί είχα πάρει το (συμπαθητικό) μίνι σιντί τους 3500 δρχ και το αντήλλαξα πριν λίγους μήνες με ΕΞΙ (6) φουλ άλμπουμς.Ομπσκιούρ μέταλ ούμπερ άλλεσ :dfinger:
AcidBath
28-03-2004, 17:48
ma oxi diavase olo to topik. einai theiko.
exoume kai guest symmetoxes.
{NightStalker}
28-03-2004, 23:32
Ayto einai to megaleio tu er.Hellenic Hawk thelw na allilografoume taktika.Mporw na graftw sto fan club sou?
/me is a computer geek pou ksekatiniazete ta savvata.
symposium_lexotanil
29-03-2004, 01:23
axaxaxaxax psofao.
troumetalers united.soon at a theater near you.be very afraid.
Witchkiller
29-03-2004, 09:35
A) Witchkiller (xairetismous ston Niko), fysika kai akouw kai Bulldozer, Blessed Death, Mandator, Hexx, opws kai ena karo gnwstes kai spanioteres thrash mpantes twn 80s (me polles ek twn opoiwn megalwsa...thn epoxh dhladh pou oi dh8en kafroi tou shmera ma8ainan akoma na perpatoune). Astous na lene. Makarioi oi ptwxoi tw pneumati!
Mandator?Blessed Death.Telika se paw para poli esena.Kilise o tentzerhs kai brhke to kapaki pou lene. :P
Welcome Xrhstara.Ola ok?Na kanonisoume gia kanena poto.Olo stis synayleies ta leme kai se xwrous me ntabantouri.
Parepiptontos to Icon sou einai trela! :headbang2:
Witchkiller
29-03-2004, 09:39
ti ti lete sto sympolemisth sta dogohouses kwstakh :P ? otan tha paizei o shelton, emeis tha maste sthn alpha bank, ston george ton pearl, me trela mwra :P etsi gia thn intrigka.
Etsi,etsi.Ela esy me to kalo kai tha th broume thn akrh.Kai ayth th fora organwmena ki oxi psaxnontas.Re mpderatora,anebase kana icon pou na kanei belly dance.
necropethamenos
29-03-2004, 11:31
Kai ksana sto thema mas. Oi wotan emena de mou kanane kammia foveri entypwsi. De lew oti einai kakoi i kati tetoio, aplws oti de mou kanane kai toso gia theoi. Akoma toulaxiston.
Vasika afto pou mou exoun afiisei einai oti exoun tin empnefsi kai to feel alla prepei kati na kanoun kai me to paiksimo. Den ennow na paiksoun texnika i kati tetoio!! Den eimai vlakas! Ennow apla na paiksoun kapws pio swsta kai stathera. Kai me ti fwni kati e.
Twra tha mou peite "wpa re mastora, esy paizeis stous anwrimous kai ti les se allous gia to paiksimo"?
Ntaks, einai kiafto :p
Ante na doume ti tha leei to album..
Gia to demo pla xunw.Theiko epic metal.To under the sign,ok psiloxalia paragwgi-maresei polly-apla den sigrinete me to demo.Gia to neo,exw 4 oloklira kommatia,apla theika-i fwni einai safws pesmeni,pantws emena mou aresoun.To under the sign of odins ravens opos exw pei pollakis den mou aresei (eidika sto telos paei i faltsadoura sinefo).Krima pantws na tous exei kollithei to onoma manowar dipla tous...krima pragmatika giati alliws tha tous akougan alloi tosoi.
Pano pes me ti cd to antalaxes na gelasoun oi 2,3 heavy metalades tou forum kai na se epainesoun oloi oi alloi anuxtomualoi.
necropethamenos
29-03-2004, 19:53
kai na se epainesoun oloi oi alloi anuxtomualoi.
Afti i sixameni fara.
Witchkiller
29-03-2004, 20:24
Pano pes me ti cd to antalaxes na gelasoun oi 2,3 heavy metalades forum
Poioi,poioi? :P
Xaxa.Xalarwse Jhon,mi me xarientiseis me kamia panagia,plaka sou kanw :P
o axeman einai o marooned?
o waldorf poios einai?
poly kalo topic. ena tria apo mena.
kai to carmina paparika episis 3 (den to xo akousei alla malakia de 8a nai?)
Martyan_Druyd
05-04-2004, 01:17
...kai alla 5 gia sena :moutza:
TRAMPAKOULAS
05-04-2004, 01:21
exontas akousei 4 tragoudia apo to neo disko twn wotan,borw na pw oti h veltiwsh tous se olous tous tomeis einai entypwsiakh
kai paiktika kai syn8etika kai apo apopsh paragwghs kai hxou.
panta mou aresan (xwris na petaw th skoufia mou) alla twra pistevw oti 8a kerdisoun arketo kosmo pou einai dektikos se afta ta akousmata
oso gia to xarakthrismo neoi MANOWAR,pistevw oti oute oi idioi den 8a ais8anontai kala akougontas ton
3erete,milame gia tous MANOWAR...
DEN GINETAI NA YPAR3EI KATI ANTA3IO TWN 8EWN
(oute akoma kai sta xeirotera tous...)
8)
rockavlon
05-04-2004, 05:32
cancer - twra epibaibewneis tous trouades :P xalara krineis xwris na exeis akousei - kati pou nomizw kanei o kosmos kata koron edw mesa :P apla epeidh den einai dektikoi se alla akousmata peran twn dikwn tous - toulaxiston oti thabw to akouw prewta estw kai mia fora:P BTW, ntaks apo to innoxia kai mono - kamia sxesh me to demo, alla kai pali den mou kanoun klik.
cancer - twra epibaibewneis tous trouades :P xalara krineis xwris na exeis akousei - kati pou nomizw kanei o kosmos kata koron edw mesa :P apla epeidh den einai dektikoi se alla akousmata peran twn dikwn tous - toulaxiston oti thabw to akouw prewta estw kai mia fora:P BTW, ntaks apo to innoxia kai mono - kamia sxesh me to demo, alla kai pali den mou kanoun klik.
den to grapsa sta sovara.
pantws, kalo h oxi, emena de nomizo na mou arese.
Freewheel Burner
17-04-2004, 04:04
WOTAN TAN TAN???
pantws prepei na akousw...de ginetai alliws...
Witchkiller
17-04-2004, 08:42
Akomh den exw akousei tipota.
Eidwmen.......
The_Painless
17-04-2004, 09:18
Έχω ακούσει αρκετά από τα κομμάτια και είναι μια χαρά.
Όπως είπε και ο TRAMPAKOULAS, έχουν όντως βελτιωθεί πολύ, ειδικά από πλευράς ήχου. Πάνω ήταν αρκετά αγχωμένοι, όμως εκτελεστικά τα πήγαν τουλάχιστον ok.
Infected_Silence
18-04-2004, 18:09
!!!ASXETO!!!
The_Painless to avatar sou einai mipws o singer twn Spear of longinus???
The_Painless
20-04-2004, 12:02
Όχι!!!!!!
Είναι η νέα τραγουδίστρια των 2 Unlimited!!!!!!!!!!!
TRAMPAKOULAS
20-04-2004, 15:35
kalh gomena
:rofl: :rofl:
A re er me ta megaleia sou!
:rofl: :rofl:
Oute o Amnesiac den tha lege tetoia mparoufa :rofl: (Leme twra)
AXAXAXA
Siga mhn einai kai talento apo tis aypnies ths Pania
ELEOS!
Witchkiller
22-04-2004, 13:43
E,o Shelton einai (Manilla Road).Oi ypolipoi pou to eidate to asteio?
freak brother
22-04-2004, 13:57
E,o Shelton einai (Manilla Road).Oi ypolipoi pou to eidate to asteio?
ton eixa sundesei me kati fwto palies pou ton eixa dei me makriamallia kai mousia...i think.. xenerwsa twra..san ton mperni einai auton ton typa se kati b movies pou kai kala einai nekros alla perpataei..
rincewind2k
22-04-2004, 14:14
sa to saddam einai re mlk :?
opos kai na einai sas gamaei
me th kalh ennoia panta.
TRAMPAKOULAS
22-04-2004, 15:42
as episoume oti kai eseis sta 50 sas 8a exete makria mallia kai mousia
dld pws 8a eprepe na einai o an8rwpos???opws htan sta 25 tou??? :loco:
pistevw pws gia thn hlikia tou einai mia xara
Basika den exei kai tromeres diafores apo to pos itan.Eidika stin fatsa einai oloidios.
necropethamenos
22-04-2004, 17:33
O shelton optika mia xara einai, na evgaze omws kai wraious diskous akoma :/ ....
Loipon ksanamanaakousa to gamimeno cd twn wotan pou exw.
GAMW TI KATADIKI MOU, OK KAPOIA KALA SIMEIA EXEI ALLA S I G A.
2i katigoria kata ti gnwmi mou teleiws. Makari na vgaloun ena disko pragmatika epiko pou na mi thes na gelaseis me ta xalia tou kathe 3 lepta.
freak brother
22-04-2004, 18:15
o Gilbert Shelton einai kaluteros.. nia nia nia nia 8)
Witchkiller
23-04-2004, 09:59
Egw akomh den exw akousei to ''Carmina Barbarika''.Parakalw opoion katoxo (bl.Warlord) na mou kanei mia kopia,an einai eykolo fysika.
TRAMPAKOULAS
23-04-2004, 16:00
Egw akomh den exw akousei to ''Carmina Barbarika''.Parakalw opoion katoxo (bl.Warlord) na mou kanei mia kopia,an einai eykolo fysika.
ti kopia re tsiph?an 8es to album phgaine na to agoraseis
Raven Lord
23-04-2004, 16:04
Egw akomh den exw akousei to ''Carmina Barbarika''.Parakalw opoion katoxo (bl.Warlord) na mou kanei mia kopia,an einai eykolo fysika.
περίμενε σε κανα 2 βδομαδούλες θα το "εντοπίσω" εγώ...
Witchkiller
25-04-2004, 16:35
ti kopia re tsiph?an 8es to album phgaine na to agoraseis
Dhladh esy agorazeis sta koutourou?Eksypno.
De tha dwsw lefta gia kati pou den exw akousei.De mou periseyoune (an omws einai gamato ennoeitai oti tha to parw alla prwta prepei n'akousw).
N.p.
OMEN - DIE BY THE BLADE
Egw akomh den exw akousei to ''Carmina Barbarika''.Parakalw opoion katoxo (bl.Warlord) na mou kanei mia kopia,an einai eykolo fysika.
ti kopia re tsiph?an 8es to album phgaine na to agoraseis
poteeee ksanaaaa poteeee ksanaaaaa
:evil:
Martyan_Druyd
27-04-2004, 17:47
....prwtathlhma ston Peiraia!!
TRAMPAKOULAS
27-04-2004, 18:17
afto einai teleiws ypokeimeniko ka8ws kai egw borei na 8ewrw oti me afta pou esy agorazeis,petas ta dika sou lefta.
o ka8enas agorazei afto pou tou aresei.to 8ema omws einai toulaxiston na to AGORAZEI kai oxi na kopiarei kai meta na leei "ouaou kai gamw ta album,foverh groupara,to exw cd-r".einai tsipiko pws na to kanoume.
kopiaroume tis metriothtes alla toulaxiston gia afta pou goustaroume as valoume kai to xeri sthn tsepoula.den vlaptei
Egw den mpenw ston kopo oute na to kopiarw, milwntas gia tous Wotan...
Genika to na kopiareis kati opws les gia na akouseis prin agoraseis 'h an sou fanei metrio na mh to agoraseis einai to pio straight. makari na xa akousei prin agorasw Wotan. pote ksana tetoia la8h.
Raven Lord
27-04-2004, 18:24
/me μεγάλος τσίπης...
TRAMPAKOULAS
27-04-2004, 19:17
o ka8enas kanei tis epiloges tou
egw 8ewrw gyftia thn antigrafh apo th stigmh pou enas diskos sou aresei poly.proswpika exw antigrapsei polla cd alla to ekana mexri na vrw thn eykairia na ta agorasw au8entika.meta ta cd-r ta xarizw.an den enisxyseis kapoio agaphmeno sou sygrothma tote einai san na to embodizeis kata kapoio tropo sto na kykloforhsei thn epomenh tou douleia.kalo kai to download gia na akouseis 2-3 tragoudakia endeiktika kai na apofasiseis an 8a agoraseis kapoio cd h oxi alla oxi na to gamame kiolas kai na plhrwnei h mamaka kai o mbambakas pollwn apo edw mesa xryso ton o.t.e...
alloi vriskoun ikanopoihsh sto na apoktoun to hxhtiko ponhma enos group tsamba.egw oxi
Oi Wotan den einai oute gia antigrafi enw oi Cathedral gia agora.As kagxasw.
Buddy Lackey
27-04-2004, 20:51
as kagxasoume oloi mazi
"Oi Wotan den einai oute gia antigrafi enw oi Cathedral gia agora"
:rofl: :rofl:
Oi Wotan den einai oute gia antigrafi enw oi Cathedral gia agora.As kagxasw.
HAHAHAHA metro sugkrishs oxi mlkies...
ennoeitai.
[kata th gnwmh mou (c)]
Witchkiller
28-04-2004, 08:50
Oi Wotan den einai oute gia antigrafi enw oi Cathedral gia agora.As kagxasw.
POTE THA KA
POTE THA KANEIEIEIEI KSASTERIA!
Ayto einai gia sign.
Pros Trampakoula gia na teliwnoume m'ayto:ayto pou eipa einai,as mou to grapsei kapoios gia na t'akousw kai an mou aresei ennoeitai pws tha to agorasw.Katalabenomaste twra?Kai egw eimai kata tou cd-r.
Kalhmera s'olo to kosmo (Papadakhs).
rockavlon
28-04-2004, 11:33
egw lew ama erthoun gia live oi wotan na pame na paiksoume mia ksifomaxia :P na baloume mprantefer KTL !? oi cathedral gamane tous GOTAN apo oles tis mpantes :P DOOM kai GLOOM re mounia
Witchkiller
28-04-2004, 12:10
MATHIEW HOPKINS
WITCHFINDER GENERAL
YOUR SOUL CONDEMEND
TO HEEEEELLLLLLL
oi cathedral gamane tous GOTAN apo oles tis mpantes DOOM kai GLOOM re mounia
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Buddy Lackey
28-04-2004, 15:04
vasika kai me aysthra truemetallika krithria, oi cathedral einai pio metal apo tous wotan
necropethamenos
28-04-2004, 15:37
vasika kai me aysthra truemetallika krithria, oi cathedral einai pio metal apo tous wotan
Xm. Kai pio kali mpanta. "gousta". Nai.
Buddy Lackey
28-04-2004, 15:39
gia ayto de tithetai thema kan
e allo 13 xronia istoria (ase thn proistoria) kai allo 10 (nomizw) xronia mlkia.
TRAMPAKOULAS
29-04-2004, 00:05
den 8elw na sth xalasw alla wotan predate cathedral...
einai ligo pio palia banda (late 80s)
AcidBath
29-04-2004, 00:08
carmina retardica.
ehm vasika 91 vghke to Forest of Equilibrium pou den sugkrinoume kan.
10 xronia = mesa 90s.
an ennoas late 80s kai ekanes lathos kai eimai toso ektos tote akoma pio swsta eipa "malakia", to mpaizoune tosa xronia? ti kanoune?
TRAMPAKOULAS
29-04-2004, 00:25
ekana la8os kai to dior8wsa me edit
oi wotan 3ekinhsan telh dekaetias 80.to oti den eixan diskografikh parousia analogh me ta xronia tous san sygrothma ofeiletai se pollous logous.den exei nohma na ka8omaste na analyoume.allwste oute oi prwtoi einai oute oi teleutaioi pou kykloforhsan mono demos ola afta ta xronia.gnwrizw ena swro sygrothmata pou se olh thn kariera tous kykloforhsan mono merika demos alla gamane kai dernoun.h diskografikh douleia sou prosferei mono perissoterh anagnwrish.oxi aparaithta kai megalyterh kallitexnikh a3ia.polla group einai poly anwtera sta demo tous para stous diskous tous.
oi wotan einai ena kalo sygrothma sto eidos tous kai einai logiko na aresoun sta paidia pou goustaroun aftou tou eidous ta akousmata.to oti den aresei se esena alla kai se pollous allous einai fysiologiko ka8ws o ka8enas exei ta gousta tou.to na trws kollhma omws kai na tous vrizeis apla kai mono epeidh yparxoun,einai mallon koble3.oute sto spiti sou hr8an na sou pioun to gala apo to psygeio kai na katourhsoun stis glastres sou oute evalan me to zori to cd tous sto stereofwniko sou gia na to akous 8es den 8es.to pio sofo pragma gia na kanei kaneis 8a htan apla na adiaforhsei.na mhn asxolh8ei.ti kollhmata trwte orismenoi kai prepei kala kai swnei na meiwsete group kai mousikes, ta opoia etsi kai alliws den sygatalegontai sta gousta sas,den borw na to katalavw...
oe, 8a sumfwnhsw mazi sou se ola osa eipes.
kai as to ksanapw, symfwnw se ola osa eipes.
kanonika, se normal periptwsh, opws kai me toses alles mpantes, 8a edeixna apla adiaforia giati apla de maresoune.
sayto to thread kai prin liga posts giname martyresch mias akyrhs teleiws sygkrishs me mia slourp dosh eirwnias apton necrouli, e kai eipa na to synexisw. + to gegonos oti oloi mas exoun prhksei ta arxidia peri mpantaras pou 8a mas parei ta kefalia, 8a mas ma8ei na akoume metal kai neoi manowar kai alles tetoies pipes (kai phrame to mini cd kai vrizoume). siga th 8eosynh.
ayta.
vreite mou kai mena koroido na mou dwsei estw 2 sintia gia to mini plhz.
sou dinw dyo adeia sintia
necropethamenos
29-04-2004, 11:56
to na trws kollhma omws kai na tous vrizeis apla kai mono epeidh yparxoun,einai mallon koble3.oute sto spiti sou hr8an na sou pioun to gala apo to psygeio kai na katourhsoun stis glastres sou oute evalan me to zori to cd tous sto stereofwniko sou gia na to akous 8es den 8es.to pio sofo pragma gia na kanei kaneis 8a htan apla na adiaforhsei.na mhn asxolh8ei.ti kollhmata trwte orismenoi kai prepei kala kai swnei na meiwsete group kai mousikes, ta opoia etsi kai alliws den sygatalegontai sta gousta sas,den borw na to katalavw...
Tramp, exeis xasei to noima nomizw. De trexei kati me to na peis "oi wotan ton pairnoun" oute me to na pei kapoios oti "oi manowar ton pairnoun". Oi prwtoi de mou kanoun, oi 2oi einai oi theoi mou. E to thema einai oti edw mesa milame opws tha milousame metaksy mas. Kai ok, to provlima den einai na pei kapoios oti "oi tade einai SKATA" apo ti stigmi pou EKS ORISMOU oi gnwmes pou ekferoume einai ypokeimeniko-ta-tes.
Diladi de sou aresoun oi evanescense? Kane plakitsa kai xwsta tous! To provlima den einai ti leei o kathenas enantion enos sygkrotimatos pou de sympathei. To provlima einai na PAREKSIGESAI epeidi thigei kapoios to sygkrotima pou goustareis.
I tespa etsi nomizw.
Episis an peis tipota gia tous evanescense se gamisa.
SE VLEPW, ETOIMOS EISAI! :evil:
(afou to ksereis oti s'agapaw. sto katw katw eisoun o prwtos pou parakolouthise ti prwti mou seksoualiki epafi me to skylo mou.)
vasika kai me aysthra truemetallika krithria, oi cathedral einai pio metal apo tous wotan
:moutza:
Tramp oi Wotan uparxoun apo to 1984 nomizw.Den xerw an eixan tote auto to onoma.San group apo tote peripoy ksekinane.
Virus tin sigrisi tin ekana giati thewrw adunato se kapoion na aresoun oi Cathedral kai oxi oi Wotan,pragmatika.Kai opos mou eipes eixes akousei mono to ep pou ok katalabenw giati den sou aresei.Oute egw trelenomai gia to ep an kai mou aresei arketa.
Kai oson afora peri twn newn manowar.Oute neoi manowar uparxoun oute palioi.Uparxoun mono oi manowar.
symposium_lexotanil
29-04-2004, 14:27
kai mono pou ginetai sygkrisi cathedral me wotan einai asteio e.
Stormtrooper
29-04-2004, 14:29
Virus tin sigrisi tin ekana giati thewrw adunato se kapoion na aresoun oi Cathedral kai oxi oi Wotan,pragmatika.
Enta3'... Elega na min anakateytw s'ena topic pou den me afora ka8olou, afou oi Wotan einai pio to geloio sygkrotima ki ap'tis Hi-5, alla ayto pou grafei o "omonymos" tou group einai toulaxiston blakeia.
Prwton den yparxei sygkrisi. Allo eidos oi men, allo oi den... Kai fysika karagoustarw Cathedral!
Deyteron, o Heavy kai mi heavy ixos einai antikeimenikos kai oxi ypokeimenikos. Kai oi Cathedral einai pio Heavy. Den 3erw ti 8a bgaloun oi panasxetoi Wotan (kai den kaigomai na to akousw), alla an bgaloun kati me ontws kali paragwgi kai kalous kai swstous ixous sta organa tote 8a mporesoume na exoume mia pio antikeimeniki eikona.
Gia tin wra klaste tous t'arxidia pou ta'xoun kai megala kai den 3epeftoun se emporopanygira typou demo kai probes kai den 3erw egw ti alli malakia mporei na tous katebei sto kefali gia na kanoun to "psonismeno kommati" tous. Ton poulo kai gamietai to TrU... (check the sign)
lost_icon
29-04-2004, 15:20
Oi Wotan den einai oute gia antigrafi enw oi Cathedral gia agora.As kagxasw.
na se klwnopoihsoume h na se agorasoume? :D
Na katsete stin poutsa mou.
AcidBath
29-04-2004, 15:47
mi ginesai poutsodoulos.
TRAMPAKOULAS
29-04-2004, 16:01
pros nekropsofio:
den htan anagh na mou 8ymhseis afth thn agnh erwtikh skhnh me th makaritisa sugar.me syginhses a8eofove kai 8a valw ta klamata
tespa as perasw sto psaxno
to kollhma den to trww epeidh kapoios leei :"oi wotan einai malakes".as pei o ka8enas oti 8elei gia tous wotan kai tous ka8e wotan
to provlhma einai oti ginetai ena oloklhro davadouri gia na meiw8ei kai to koino twn wotan alla ki oloklhro to mousiko idiwma pou antiproswpevoun.oi prosvoles den periorizontai mono se sygrothmata alla kai sto koino tous kai afto pragmatika enoxlei
epishs diafwnw sto oti edw mesa milame opws tha milousame meta3y mas.edw mesa milame me thn asylia tou keyboard kai ths o8onhs,giafto kai o ka8enas petaei th malakia tou kai thn prosvola tou ane3elenkta.se mia face to face syzhthsh na eisai sigouros oti ginontai polla toumbekia kai symazevontai polloi asymazeftoi.
kai kati akoma
NAI RE OI ENANESENS TON PAIRNOUN MOYXAXAXAXAXA
pros stormtrooper:
file pistevw pws to exeis xasei to treno pro pollou
einai dynaton na les oti ta demos einai emboropanhgyria,3epesmos kai psonismeno kommati gia ena group?dld oloi genniountai paiktarades kai me ena diskografiko symvolaio me to kalhmera?
pragmatika 3estomises mia apo tis megalyteres malakies pou exw akousei apo an8rwpino stoma kai me kaneis na anarwtiemai pou teleiwnei h agnoia kai pou arxizei h vlakeia...
8a se parakalesw eilikrina na postareis sta threads pou aforoun ta mousika sou gousta kai se ekfrazoun genikotera.yparxoun ena swro alla merh sta opoia boreis na ekfraseis to menos sou gia tous wotan kai ta alla sygrothmata ta opoia ypotimhtika apokaleis tru.kai pistepse me 8a vreis kai pollous yposthriktes...
Buddy Lackey
29-04-2004, 16:37
symfwnw se polla apo to prwto skelos tou post soy, alla ayto pou nomizw oti peirakse ton stormtrooper (kai ton kathe yvristh - sic - twn Wotan) einai to yvervoliko hype pisw apo to group, to opoio apo oti vlepeis exei paei kai pera apo osous akoune thn sygkekrimenh mousikh.
Diladi ok den einai dynaton na ginetai tosos thoryvos kai na dinontai oi APISTEYTOI xarakthrismoi gia ena group pou exei parousiasei ena demo kai ena ep (enw yparxoun tosa polla xronia), oso kala kai an einai ayta. To oti exei akykloforhta tragoudia (pou einai orea osa exw akousei kai egw, de lew) pou gamane klp klp den exei shmasia, otan ta kykloforhsoun tote tha krithoun ypo normal synthikes kai ayta.
Kai an sygkrinoume px tous Wotan me kapoio allo italiko group tou eidous (px Doomsword), giati oi men me ligoterh zwh na pigenoun mprosta , na ekselisontai, na vgazouyn synexeia diskares, kai oi Wotan oxi, na mhn exoun kanoun tosa ma tosa xronia na vgaloun full length ,dld ti skata katara tous exoune riksei? Kai ola ayta den einai enoxlhtika, 'h gia koroidia, alla otan theopoieitai TOSO ena tetoio group, tote einai ligaki periergo .
kai ola ayta kai mesa apo thn theikh sygkrish tou necrouli me Cathedral
Witchkiller
29-04-2004, 17:01
Ksekolate re paidia.ELEOS PIA!Ksekolate kai oi men kai oi de.Entaksy,mporei o WoTaN sygkrinontas tous Cathedral me tous WoTaN na ekane to posto tou aiwna alla den einai anagkh na plakwthoume pali.Katantaei bareto.
pali gamhsa :P :D
pou eides tous APISTEUTOUS xaraktirismous re ant?
isa isa egw tous perissoterous poy kserw pou akoune epika tous thewroun apo metrious ews apla kalous anamenontas to neo album.
Tespa vlepw 8 selides thread me ta misa posts apo atoma poy den exoun kamia sxesi me to group kai ton ixo.Kala pame.
TRAMPAKOULAS
29-04-2004, 17:02
pros buddy lackey
koita na deis
vgainoun oi opadoi twn wotan kai lene:"oi wotan gamane!","oi wotan einai 8eoi!" ktl.afto giati 8a eprepe na peira3ei ton stormtrooper kai ton ka8e stormtrooper?einai oi opadoi ths mousikhs twn wotan kai dikaiologhmena anaferontai me ek8eiastika logia gia th mousikh tous.(ekei pou ta xalame einai me to neoi MANOWAR.ateleiwth vlakeia...).
epishs epanalamvanw oti h diskografikh parousia enos sygrothmatos den einai panta analogh me to xrono ypar3hs tou.borei oi wotan na mhn eixane ston hlio moira kai dekara tsakisth.borei na doulevane xamalhdes sta xythria sto milano.twra omws vrhkane thn eykairia kai 8a parousiasoune mia oloklhrwmenh douleia.epishs twra vrhkan kai mia yposthri3h kai mia etairia pou goustarei th mousikh tous kai einai diate8eimenh na tous prow8hsei.3ereis poses groupares meinane sta demo kai mono?na sou shkwnetai h trixa kagelo
TRAMPAKOULAS
29-04-2004, 17:13
Ksekolate re paidia.ELEOS PIA!Ksekolate kai oi men kai oi de.Entaksy,mporei o WoTaN sygkrinontas tous Cathedral me tous WoTaN na ekane to posto tou aiwna alla den einai anagkh na plakwthoume pali.Katantaei bareto.
an o Wotan me th sygrish cathedral-wotan ekane to post tou aiwna,esy me th sygrish adramelch-kratos na ypo8esw oti ekanes to post ths xilietias?
re xalarwsteeeeeeeeeeee
Witchkiller
29-04-2004, 18:53
an o Wotan me th sygrish cathedral-wotan ekane to post tou aiwna,esy me th sygrish adramelch-kratos na ypo8esw oti ekanes to post ths xilietias?
re xalarwsteeeeeeeeeeee
An kai gia 'mena oi Kratos xalara einai kalyterh mpanta apo tous Adra h sygkrish htan metaksy 2 groups pou to ena exei bgalei ena disko kai to allo 2 ep's opote ta megethi einai sygkrisima.Sto katw katw me ton Antwnh (Buddy) otan th ''legame'' o enas ston allon sto 80ies Metal Thread xabale ekana mesa se filika plaisia mias kai to gnwrizw to palikari.Me'sena bebaia de tha katsw na milisw gi'ayto to thema.Esy thewries to yperepos ''Protectors Of The Lair'' twn Griffin gia ta mpaza opote ta gousta mas mallon de sympiptoune gi'ayto stamata na mou th les gia tous Kratos.Den exei nohma kai me kourazeis.Etsi ki alliws oses fores sou exw milisei,to exw kanei se poly filko klima ki esy me eirwneyesai.Akou esy ''Eyes Of Alabaster'',egw tha'kouw ''Chainsaw'' :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: kai tha eimaste kai oi 2 eytyxismenoi.Gkeke?
Sto thema WoTaN - Cathedral de tha epektathw allo.Opws eipe kai o Sympo einai gelio kai mono na kathomeste n'asxoloumaste m'ayto.
en oligois:
@Tramp: Sigoura asulia tou keyboard den paizei, kouventa na kaname face to face den nomizw na sou elega kati diaforetiko. kouventa leme e, oxi pi8hkismous pou eidame sto idio, nomizw, thread.
Epishs gia to hype pou leei o Buddy exei dikio. Mas exoun prhksei ta arxidia, kai gw goustarw polu 4-5 xasisostonerades me 1 ep or whatever pou den sas endiaferoun alla de sas ta kanw karpouza. kai genikws ayto to fainomeno "karpouza" ta 3-4 teleytaia xronia pou oloi ksafnika anakalypsan to kayto underground epiko metallo kai gemisame italous 8eous apto pou8ena.
@Necro: ahm vres mou mia omoiothta plhz, ena koino shmeio pou na exoun oi 2 sygkekrimenes mpantes wste na aresoun "standar" se mena 'h se opoiodhpote.
kai gia na mhn quotarw epeidh variemai eleeina des posts tou Axeman gia arxh gia ypervolikous xarakthrismous.
TRAMPAKOULAS
29-04-2004, 19:01
den 8a dextw afto pou les peri eirwnias ka8ws ta posts mou pou anaferontai se esena einai AKRIVWS sto idio mhkos kymatos me ta dika sou.mallon den exeis katalavei katitis...
epishs vriskw ligo afeles afto pou les peri sygrishmothtas.dld sygrinoume mono group ta opoia exoun analogh diskografikh parousia?o Wotan ekane mia poly aplh sygrish h opoia synopsizetai sta e3hs:oi wotan tou aresoun perissotero apo tous cathedral.pou einai to kako se afto?
les kai kati allo.oti sou th lew gia tous kratos...
esy mou thn exeis pei kate3akolou8hsh amesa kai emesa gia tous apollo ra,dark quarterer,adramelch kai den symmazevetai.mhpws exeis thn entypwsh oti esy DEN me kourazeis?
Witchkiller
29-04-2004, 19:09
den 8a dextw afto pou les peri eirwnias ka8ws ta posts mou pou anaferontai se esena einai AKRIVWS sto idio mhkos kymatos me ta dika sou.mallon den exeis katalavei katitis...
Mallon esy de katalabeneis.Panta prospathousa na se proseggisw filika (de eimai pousths e).
epishs vriskw ligo afeles afto pou les peri sygrishmothtas.dld sygrinoume mono group ta opoia exoun analogh diskografikh parousia?o Wotan ekane mia poly aplh sygrish h opoia synopsizetai sta e3hs:oi wotan tou aresoun perissotero apo tous cathedral.pou einai to kako se afto?
Den ekane sygrish.Eirwneytike.Katalabeneis th diafora ypothetw etsi?Kia,nai,h syfkrisimothta einai shmathikh.Allo 7 diskoi (oi opoioi gia pollous gamane kai oi efta) kai allo dyo demo's.
les kai kati allo.oti sou th lew gia tous kratos...
esy mou thn exeis pei kate3akolou8hsh amesa kai emesa gia tous apollo ra,dark quarterer,adramelch kai den symmazevetai.mhpws exeis thn entypwsh oti esy DEN me kourazeis?
Kane quote post mou pou thn eipa SE ESENA gia'ytes tis mpantes (ektos an mperdeyeis ton eayto sou me ton Antwnh,) kai tha sou zitisw sygnwmh.Epeidh omws den thn eipa se'sena potestamata na mou zalezeis t'arxidia.Ayta.
symposium_lexotanil
29-04-2004, 19:17
trampakoula otan syneidotopoiiseis oti einai to ligotero geloio kai PROKLITIKO na sygkrineis wotan me cathedral (kai malista me ton tropo pou to kane o wotan) mporeis na ksanapostareis.
euxaristo
Witchkiller
29-04-2004, 19:23
trampakoula otan syneidotopoiiseis oti einai to ligotero geloio kai PROKLITIKO na sygkrineis wotan me cathedral (kai malista me ton tropo pou to kane o wotan) mporeis na ksanapostareis.
euxaristo
.-
TRAMPAKOULAS
29-04-2004, 19:25
as mhn milhsoume gia geloia kai proklhtika pragmata giati se afto ton tomea oi perissoteroi edw mesa eiste an mh ti allo prwta8lhtes...
symposium_lexotanil
29-04-2004, 19:27
sauto to topik mas apasxolise to sygkekrimeno.
kane ena kainourgio topik kai vale ola ta geloia kai proklitika pou exeis entopisei na ksekauloseis
TRAMPAKOULAS
29-04-2004, 19:36
kai ti se kanei na nomizeis oti dinw ka8olou shmasia se ola ta geloia kai proklhtika pou 3estomizete ka8e ligo kai ligaki?an htan etsi 8a eixa arpaxtei me pollous apo thn arxh
se afth thn periptwsh eseis eiste pou arpazeste me kati dh8en proklhtiko pou eipe o Wotan...
Witchkiller
29-04-2004, 19:48
se afth thn periptwsh eseis eiste pou arpazeste me kati dh8en proklhtiko pou eipe o Wotan...
Dhladh eprepe na pei''gamw th panageia twn Cathedral kai twn opadwn tous'' gia na einai kapws proklitikos gia 'sena?
Pfff.Stamataw n'asxoloumai.Bgale dontia monos sou.
Stormtrooper
29-04-2004, 20:00
Trampakoula:
Den exw kamia apolytws dia8esi na sti pw. Den exw logo allwste. Ekfrazeis tis apopsis sou kai den mporw na se krinw gi'ayto. To ellatwma sou omws na diwxneis atoma ap'ta topic kai kala ws mi gnwstes einai ekneyristiko.
To mikos kymmatos twn sygkrotimatwn pou akouw den diaferei kai toso poly me ayto pou akous esy. Apla isws einai ligo pio skliro (blepe Exciter, Razor...). Mpika kai sxoliasa kati pou egrapse o Giannakis (WoTaN). Sygnwmi ki olas an s'enoxlisa, alla etsi eimai egw. Twra to oti 8ewrw geloio na kykloforeis san demo mia proba einai mia dikia mou gnwmi kai eilikrina den m'endiaferei i gnwmi kanenos. Gia mena tetoiou eidous kyklofories deixnoun elleipsi aytosebasmou kai pros to sygkrotima tous. Autos einai enas logos pou tous 8ewrw ap'ta megalytera Karagkiwzakia tou Metal tin parousa stigmi. O deyteros einai oti den goustarw ayto pou paizoun. Apla mou ka8etai a8lia to ixitiko tous apotelesma.
Telos 8a i8ela na grapsw pws exw ka8e dikaiwma na lew ti gnwmi mou opou 8elw kai na lew oti 8elw kai pisteyw, alla kai tin ypoxrewsi na min prosballw kanenan.
Elpizw na egina katanohtos.
PS: Gamietai to TRU Metal pou den einai kan Metal (den 8ewrw tous Wotan Tru..., ok? Omws gamiountai kai autoi!)
symposium_lexotanil
29-04-2004, 20:19
kai ti se kanei na nomizeis oti dinw ka8olou shmasia se ola ta geloia kai proklhtika pou 3estomizete ka8e ligo kai ligaki?an htan etsi 8a eixa arpaxtei me pollous apo thn arxh
se afth thn periptwsh eseis eiste pou arpazeste me kati dh8en proklhtiko pou eipe o Wotan...
eisai yperano kai eimaste oi kafroi.
yawn.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
me to pou eida thn epikefalida tou thread eipa na mhn asxolhthw...omws mia kai mono leksh me ekane na diavasw 9 selides posts....
De tha milhsw gia tous wotan giati den tous exw akousei kai me endiaferoun sto elaxisto (ews mhdamino)... Otan omws tous sygrineis-apla tous sygrineis, me to megalytero isws doom sxhma twn 90s tote prepei na milame gia ena apta megalytera sygrothmata sth mousikh pou onomazetai HEAVY metal (=gia tous wotan anaferwmai), pragma pou den to nomizw aposa anaferthikan. Den mporw na katalavw thn opoiadhpote sxesh pou mporei na exoun oi cathedral me to epic metal (kati tetoio den paizoun oi wotan?) ki epomenws den katalavainw th shmasia ths sygrhshs. Einai san na sygrinoume doom me epic/power, mhla me syka...ELEOS.
Telika den mporw para na paradextw poso ksekardistiko htan auto to thread... pragmatika! Euge!
Solo Carriera
29-04-2004, 21:01
syka rule.
AcidBath
29-04-2004, 21:56
face it : oi wotan einai gia to mpoutso.
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 00:02
pros acidbath:
esy oti peiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis
esy oti peiiiiiis
pros stormtrooper:
as eplisoume oti thn idia apa3iotikh apopsh exeis kai gia ta demo twn exciter kai twn razor.na shmeiw8ei oti kai ta dyo afta group mou aresoun poly (eidikotera oi exciter apo tous opoious exw diskografia)
epishs egw den eimai batsos tou forum gia na "diwxnw" kosmo apo ta threads.afto pou eipa htan to aftonohto.den yparxei logos na postarei kapoios se ena thread to opoio den goustarei h ton xalaei.ean to kanei,tote exei th dia8esh na plakw8ei,na prosvalei h na prokalesei
pros symposium:
pes mou pote se eipa kafro na faw th gravata mou
mhpws 8a htan protimotero na arpazomai sta ekatondades threads kai sta xiliades posts ta opoia kataferontai enantion tou agaphmenou mou sygrothmatos twn MANOWAR alla kai enantion twn opadwn tous?apo th stigmh pou 3ekinhsa na postarw sto metal discussion,diale3a mish douzina threads pou me endieferan kai apo tote exw kanei ola ta posts mou ekei.exw diavasei apeira threads ta opoia einai gemata me meiwtika sxolia gia ta agaphmena mou sygrothmata,ta agaphmena mou eidh mousikhs kai tis agaphmenes mou synh8eies.epishs exw diavasei alla tosa gemata me pragmata pou den goustarw h me afhnoun adiaforo.8a htan loipon protimotero na petagomai san th poutsa kai ekei pou den me spernoun kai na prokalw ton paniko?prosvlh8hke enas patriwths me th sygrish wotan-cathedral kai to thread egine kwlos.8a htan mallon poly wraia an se ka8e thread pou kapoios ekane mia meiwtikh sygrish gia tous MANOWAR na petagomouna kai egw kai na ton arxiza stis panagies...
oxou, ginate pio varetoi kai apta teleytaia manowar :twisted: :twisted:
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 00:13
tragika provlepsimo post...
:ddrowsy:
re tramp pou eides tis xristopanagies syzhthsh kanoume...
(apotyxhmenh alla toulaxiston *profanhs* prospa8eia gia humour)
can you feel the difference?
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 00:19
nai paidi mou kouvenda kanoume
otan vrizoume en xorw tous MANOWAR ginetai kouvendoula kai plakitsa
otan eipw8ei kati kako gia tous cathedral,plakwnoune oloi oi yperaspistes ths timhs tous kai ginetai to swse.h monh frash h opoia den grafthke edw mesa htan "afth h prosvolh 8a 3eplhrw8ei me aima sto onoma tou lee dorian"
btw kai egw variemai na milaw gia tous cathedral oi opoioi mou einai tromera adiaforoi eidika apo to ethereal mirror kai meta...
mallon diavazoume diaforetika thread kai posts... :(
oxi, the point is oti xesthka gia tous Cathedral h gia opoiodhpote group anafer8ei, den mou 8hkse th metallikh mou ypostash ypotimwntas "th mpantara pou agapaw" or smthng, h *sygkrish* pou ekane htan akyrh kai oxi to sygkrothma pou evale.
oi fans einai gia ta ghpeda.
ayta, thats the difference.
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 00:52
swsto einai afto pou les se genikes grammes kai etsi 8a eprepe na einai.alla prepei na apodexteis to gegonos oti arketos kosmos edw mesa einai poly pro8ymos na 8apsei kai na meiwsei tis epiloges twn allwn alla molis oi alloi meiwsoun tis dikes tou epiloges tote tsatizetai kai arpazetai
epishs kati eipes gia akyres sygriseis.mhpws den einai akyres sygriseis tou typou metallica h MANOWAR opou dinetai apla h eukairia sto synolo twn melwn tou e.r. na 3ifoulkisei enantion twn deftwrwn?apoti vlepw omws aftou tou typou oi sygriseis einai pswmotyri edw mesa...
afta
a kai kati pou h8ela na rwthsw to stormtrooper
epeidh den gnwrizw akrivws,boreis na mou e3hghseis ti einai afto to tru metal to opoio miseis toso?sorry an exw xasei to nohma alla den borw na katalavw ti ennoeis
end of story...
h *sygkrish* pou ekane htan akyrh kai oxi to sygkrothma pou evale.
auto leme
.-
de vghka egw na vrisw ton wotan epeidh ethikse to agaphmeno *mou* sygrothma...
Mas exoun prhksei ta arxidia, kai gw goustarw polu 4-5 xasisostonerades me 1 ep or whatever pou den sas endiaferoun alla de sas ta kanw karpouza.
Na thimisw to topic tou station gia tous Wotan xwris na exei akousei oute mia nota?Poios kanei karpouza ti meta apo auto?
@Necro: ahm vres mou mia omoiothta plhz, ena koino shmeio pou na exoun oi 2 sygkekrimenes mpantes wste na aresoun "standar" se mena 'h se opoiodhpote.
Paizoun mousiki tin opoia akous (oxi tin mousiki tous,tin mousiki genikotera-thelw na pisteuw)
trampakoula otan syneidotopoiiseis oti einai to ligotero geloio kai PROKLITIKO na sygkrineis wotan me cathedral (kai malista me ton tropo pou to kane o wotan) mporeis na ksanapostareis.
euxaristo
face it : oi wotan einai gia to mpoutso
necropethamenos
30-04-2004, 08:16
xmmm...
:confused:
Exasa ti mpala nomizw.
O logos gia ton opoio ginetai i oli syzitisi einai entelws vlakeia. SIGA na poume tis prosvoles. Eite gia tous Wotan eite gia tous Cathedral eite gia opoiondipote edw mesa.
de mporw omws
de prepei na to pw
gmt...
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Witchkiller
30-04-2004, 09:26
Kala,aytos eskase leme........... :P
Pros Trampakoula:
Epeidh to exo dei to ergo, grapstous kanonika. Oi apopseis mas taytizontai kai osoi exoun kapoia sxesh me ta osa les, katalabainoun oti ta les sosta. Ayto arkei.
Oson afora tous Cathedral, emena mou aresoun alla o Dorian einai t-r-a-g-i-k-o-s tragoudisths._
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 12:09
a kai kati pou h8ela na rwthsw to stormtrooper
epeidh den gnwrizw akrivws,boreis na mou e3hghseis ti einai afto to tru metal to opoio miseis toso?sorry an exw xasei to nohma alla den borw na katalavw ti ennoeis
Lonewolf, Sacred Steel, Doomsword mplamplampla
Xilia dyo groups (Ellinika kai 3ena) pou exoun tin pseydais8isi tou epic/metal band. Pantws katopin "dimoskopisewn" osoi akoune Wotan einai kai trumetallades. Anyway, den einai ekei ti 8ema mas. Stin ousia einai apla enas oros pou emena me ekneyrizei... Kai apla 8ewrw "kollimenous" kai "flwrous" osous ta akoune, alla ayto einai proswpiki mou apopsi.
S'ola t'alla pou grafeis symfwnw kai sou bgazw to kapelo, omws to oti sxoliasa kati pou eipe o Wotan einai kati pou to kanw syxna. Genikotera exoume mia sxesi agapis/misous me to Wotan kai goustaroume na tin leme o enas ston allon gia ton xabale. Kata t'alla ton 8ewrw gamw ta paidia. Ekei itan pou den eprepe na arpaxteis kai na eklabeis to 8ema sobara.
8a pw kati koinotypo, omws o ka8enas exei ta proswpika tou gousta (edw yparxoun atoma pou proskynane Satan's Host :P ) kai den ti8etai 8ema opadismou opws leei kai o filtatos filos ViruzXI. Den yparxei logos na plakwnwmaste gia tetoiou eidous malakies. Ok, xabale mporoume na kanoume alla oxi kai na brizomaste.
Ayta...
PS:Oi Gehennah gamane tous Wotan!!!
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 12:15
Pros Trampakoula:
Epeidh to exo dei to ergo, grapstous kanonika. Oi apopseis mas taytizontai kai osoi exoun kapoia sxesh me ta osa les, katalabainoun oti ta les sosta. Ayto arkei.
Oson afora tous Cathedral, emena mou aresoun alla o Dorian einai t-r-a-g-i-k-o-s tragoudisths._
Poly "yperanw" apopsi ayti...
"osoi exoun kapoia sxesh me ta osa les, katalabainoun oti ta les sosta"
Dyo apopseis yparxoun:
Oi dikies sas (tru-metalladwn) kai oi la8os. Ok... Opote kanoume dexto kai to oti to Orgasmatron einai epic.
Nikolaki, 3ereis oti den exw kanena apolytws problima mazi sou ws atomo, alla aytes oi antilipseis peri swstou kai la8ous, kyriws se 8emata pou aforoun tin mousiki(=texni), einai poly stenomyales!
AcidBath
30-04-2004, 12:23
plus argei na grapsei tis apopseis tou. i alliws, tis grafei me kathysterisi.
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 13:01
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Twra to prose3a ayto....
CATHEDRAL-WOTAN 10-0 GAMWTI!
Sto 25' :P
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Siga o pontos.
Witchkiller exeis skeftei oti me auta poy les den diafereis me tin pleiopsifia twn atomwn edw mesa?
Oi Doomsword true metal... :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol:
Dark-Avenger
30-04-2004, 13:24
Βρίστε με όσο θέλετε, είμαι κολλημένος σε κάποια θέματα, αλλά οι Doomsword πατάνε κάτω τα πάντα πέρα απο Manowar και Bathory IMO. Με αυτά που έχουν βγάλει και με όσα πρόκειται να επακολουθήσουν(γιατί θα επακολουθήσουν) σε 10-15 χρονάκια θα είναι για το επικό metal σε αντίστοιχη θέση με Manowar, Manilla Road, Cirith Ungol, αν όχι και σε καλύτερη από μερικά απο αυτά.
On topic τώρα, περιμένω να ακούσω ολοκληρομένο το καινούριο Wotan και τότε θα κρίνουμε. Πάντως από ότι έχω ακούσει νέοι Manowar ΔΕΝ είναι, αλλά παραμένει μια πολύ καλή προσπάθεια για heavy/epic μουσική στον 21ο αιώνα.
necropethamenos
30-04-2004, 13:55
οι Doomsword πατάνε κάτω τα πάντα πέρα απο Manowar και Bathory IMO.
Twra diladi symfwna me ton trampakoula prepei na to afisw asxoliasto afto??
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 14:21
οι Doomsword πατάνε κάτω τα πάντα πέρα απο Manowar και Bathory IMO.
Twra diladi symfwna me ton trampakoula prepei na to afisw asxoliasto afto??
Enta3ei.. to palikari ekane olokliro prologo. Oloi exoun ta kollimata tous. Ki egw 8ewrw tous Gehennah to kalytero Metal sygkrotima twn '90s mazi me tous Annihilator (oriaka aytoi sta '90s-debuto to '89). Fysika den eklambanw ypopsin ta stoner-doom-rock groups.
PS: O ki8aristas tou group sto avatar tou Dark-Avenger itan stous Dictators pou epaizan punk.
Asxeto, apla goustarw na to lew! :P
lost_icon
30-04-2004, 14:41
oi wotan einai profanatica gouanampis http://www.voicesfromthedarkside.de/interviews/profanatica.htm
fxaristw.
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 15:57
Pros Trampakoula:
Epeidh to exo dei to ergo, grapstous kanonika. Oi apopseis mas taytizontai kai osoi exoun kapoia sxesh me ta osa les, katalabainoun oti ta les sosta. Ayto arkei.
Oson afora tous Cathedral, emena mou aresoun alla o Dorian einai t-r-a-g-i-k-o-s tragoudisths._
thanks niko
afto to "grapstous kanonika" einai mallon h kalyterh syntagh
8a to ri3w sthn trelhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :hippy:
:mouse:
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 15:58
Pros Trampakoula:
Epeidh to exo dei to ergo, grapstous kanonika. Oi apopseis mas taytizontai kai osoi exoun kapoia sxesh me ta osa les, katalabainoun oti ta les sosta. Ayto arkei.
Oson afora tous Cathedral, emena mou aresoun alla o Dorian einai t-r-a-g-i-k-o-s tragoudisths._
thanks niko
afto to "grapstous kanonika" einai mallon h kalyterh syntagh
8a to ri3w sthn trelhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :hippy:
:mouse:
Eyxaristw gia tin epibebaiwsi!
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 16:05
Lonewolf, Sacred Steel, Doomsword mplamplampla
Xilia dyo groups (Ellinika kai 3ena) pou exoun tin pseydais8isi tou epic/metal band. Pantws katopin "dimoskopisewn" osoi akoune Wotan einai kai trumetallades. Anyway, den einai ekei ti 8ema mas. Stin ousia einai apla enas oros pou emena me ekneyrizei... Kai apla 8ewrw "kollimenous" kai "flwrous" osous ta akoune, alla ayto einai proswpiki mou apopsi.
S'ola t'alla pou grafeis symfwnw kai sou bgazw to kapelo, omws to oti sxoliasa kati pou eipe o Wotan einai kati pou to kanw syxna. Genikotera exoume mia sxesi agapis/misous me to Wotan kai goustaroume na tin leme o enas ston allon gia ton xabale. Kata t'alla ton 8ewrw gamw ta paidia. Ekei itan pou den eprepe na arpaxteis kai na eklabeis to 8ema sobara.
8a pw kati koinotypo, omws o ka8enas exei ta proswpika tou gousta (edw yparxoun atoma pou proskynane Satan's Host :P ) kai den ti8etai 8ema opadismou opws leei kai o filtatos filos ViruzXI. Den yparxei logos na plakwnwmaste gia tetoiou eidous malakies. Ok, xabale mporoume na kanoume alla oxi kai na brizomaste.
Ayta...
PS:Oi Gehennah gamane tous Wotan!!!
borw na pw oti katalavainw ti 8es na peis (meses akres...)
einai omws tromera akraio na katadikazeis ena oloklhro eidos ths metal mousikhs kai ton kosmo pou thn akouei mono kai mono epeidh den sou aresei h epeidh to vriskeis "kapws".btw me lonewold den trelainomai,me doomsword ka8e persi kai kalytera imo kai sacred steel karagoustarw
tespa to vasiko einai oti diafwnoume.den peirazei 8)
a kai kati allo
lew na akolou8hsw ligo th syntagh sou
OI SATAN'S HOST SAS GAMAN OLOUS :D
rockavlon
30-04-2004, 16:16
xmou - ntaks epiko egw kserw oti einai kati to megaloprepes pou dhmiourgei deos me pompwdh hxo. oi sacred steel me ton faltso-efaga xyma sth skhnh typako, mallon gelio prokaloun.
doomsword, prospathoun alla den mou kanoun tziz. sebastoi pantws.
Wotan, prospathoun, to demo den leei kai polla, polla akoume mikro kalathi kratame. TElika exei bgei auto to prama ? etsi apo periergeia.
Lonewolf, den kserw ti kanane live, to diskaki apopneei mia RWila, opotenes m arese arketa.
holy martyr - den exw kaloakousei mou fanhkan kapws... periergoi...
alla re paidia, megaloprepeia kai auto to pompwdes, tyfla an to xei kapoia apo autes tis mpantes... tespa = paw na thn araksw. peite mou poso eleikse to skor :P
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 16:20
borw na pw oti katalavainw ti 8es na peis (meses akres...)
einai omws tromera akraio na katadikazeis ena oloklhro eidos ths metal mousikhs kai ton kosmo pou thn akouei mono kai mono epeidh den sou aresei h epeidh to vriskeis "kapws".btw me lonewold den trelainomai,me doomsword ka8e persi kai kalytera imo kai sacred steel karagoustarw
tespa to vasiko einai oti diafwnoume.den peirazei 8)
Katadikazw olo to eidos giati prwta ap'ola 8ewrw geloio ton oro TRU. Ton kosmo tou Tru apla ton 8ewrw kleistomyalo kai yperopti (i mousiki mas gamaei ola t'alla eidi klp). Ase pou e8elotyflei. Den 3erw an to kaneis ki esy alla oi perissoteroi pou exw gnwrisei ayto kanoun gi'ayto goustarw na tous kopanaw pws o Ross The Boss itan kai einai Punkio. To diaskedazw. :D
a kai kati allo
lew na akolou8hsw ligo th syntagh sou
OI SATAN'S HOST SAS GAMAN OLOUS :D
Oi Satan's Host profanws den gamousan gi'ayto bgalane tetoio skoupidario. Apla 8ewrw pws einai gnwstoi mono kai mono logo tou Tyrant kai i opoiadipote parapanw fimi den tous a3izei. Apla, den mou aresei ka8olou...
Kai zitw sygnwmi gia to prwigoumeno post, alla nomiza pws den 8a apantouses. Opws kai na exei pantws diafwnw sto oti symfwneis me ton Warlord. Einai aparadektii apopsi tou swstou kai tou la8ous. Einai san na sou lew egw pws eisai malakas pou goustareis Satan's Host afou to swsto einai pws einai aparadektoi.
Anyway... :P
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 16:23
to live lonewolf htan psilotragiko imo
ta palikaria htan safws anetoima gia na kanoune synavlia
h apopsh sou gia to ti einai epiko mallon th mousikh tou wagner fwtografizei para kati apo ena heavy metal synolo
genika o oros epic metal epidexetai polles ermhneies.egw pistevw oti vaftizetai epic perissotero oti exei sxesh me maxes ktl.dld einai isws peissotero stixourgiko to 8ema para mousiko.den lew oti symfwnw alla oxi kai oti diafwnw vevaia...
gia paradeigma exw akousei thn apopsh oti oi bolt thrower paizoun epiko death.3erw oti akougetai para3eno alla kapou exei kai kapoia vash
Witchkiller
30-04-2004, 16:29
Witchkiller exeis skeftei oti me auta poy les den diafereis me tin pleiopsifia twn atomwn edw mesa?
Oi Doomsword true metal... :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol:
Eipa egw tetoio prama? :shock: :shock: Kane quote to post ayto.Oi Doomsword den mou aresoune alla einai apo tis mpantes pou sebomai.
Kai giati de prepei na mi diaferw apo thn pleiopsifia twn atomwn edw?
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 16:34
stormtrooper kaneis ena la8os
milas gia ton "kosmo tou true"
den nomizw oti yparxei kati tetoio.h toulaxiston egw den anhkw se kapoia tetoia kathgoria.epishs einai la8os na pisteveis oti osoi akoune to eponomazomeno ws true metal,den akoune tpt allo pera apo afto
ok borei na yparxoun 5 atoma pou na lene "oti den exei spa8i den to akouw" alla den boreis na peis oti afto xarakthrizei ena oloklhro eidos h ena megalo synolo an8rwpwn.h le3h true prin apo th le3h metal,gia mena antiproswpevei to eidos ekeino tou heavy metal to opoio einai pisto se kapoies "patroparadotes" heavymetalikes a3ies.tespa h kouvenda panw se afto borei na krathsei gia panta kai 8ewrw pws einai vlakeia na prospa8eis na vgaleis symberasma mesw p.c. afta ta 8emeta anaptyssontai kalytera face to face
epishs den exei shmasia to an o ross the boss htan h einai punkio.afto pou metraei einai h gamhsterh mousikh pou egrafe kai h opoia DEN einai punk
gia telos pame sto 8ema swsto-la8os
apo th stigmh pou diafwnoume,einai apolyta fysiologiko egw na vriskw tis dikes sou apopseis la8os kai tis dikes mou swstes.kai esy fysika eiai eleu8eros na pra3eis analoga 8)
Witchkiller
30-04-2004, 16:38
Pros Trampakoula.Briskw gelio to logo na kathontai na tsakonwntai atoma pou akoune panw-katw ta idia sygkrothmata (exete katalabei oti s'ayto to thread oi perissoteroi plakwnomaste kai eimaste Manowarades?).An se prosbala kata opoiodhpote tropo (pou de nomizw na to ekana) sou zhtw sygnwmh kai tha ithela poly na brethoume apo konta na sizitisoume ta peri mousikhs.Nomizw oti exoume polla koina,perissotera koina ap'oti diafores.
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 16:48
koita witchkiller
den nomizw oti oi diafwnies mas entopizontai panw se "8emeliwdh" 8emata gia to heavy metal
8a elega oti prokeitai perissotero gia pragmata tou styl maresei-den maresei.einai ka8ara 8ema goustou
epishs anagnwrizw to oti ta gousta mas symbiptoun se arketa shmeia (gia th mousikh milaw eeee :P )
to gegonos oti eisai manowaras se kanei aftomatws pio symba8h :D (i can't help it,einai mia akousia antidrash...)
den 8a elega oti me prosvales se proswpiko epipedo.afto 8a me enoxlouse pragmatika.opws den nomizw oti se prosvala egw se proswpiko epipedo.mallon prosvalame o enas to gousto tou allou...
afta
oi sacred steel me ton faltso-efaga xyma sth skhnh typako, mallon gelio prokaloun.
Profanws i kafrila kai o polemos poy vgenei mesa apo ti mousiki tous poy einai gemati tsampouka den exei tpt to epiko-polemiko.
gia paradeigma exw akousei thn apopsh oti oi bolt thrower paizoun epiko death.3erw oti akougetai para3eno alla kapou exei kai kapoia vash
Basika to lathos poy kaneis Kwsta einai oti den diaxwrizeis to polemiko apo to epiko.Einai teleiws diaforetika.Kai oi Bolt Thrower den exoun oute epiki mousiki oute epiko sinesthima,alla polemiko.Exei diafora,gia think.
Kati paromoio isxiei kai me tous Sacred Steel.To oti se kapoion den tou aresei giati den mporei na sinithisei ta fwnitika einai sevasto.Alla to na min tou aresei epeidi einai tru einai mallon geloio.
Witchkiller
30-04-2004, 16:53
Ok file.Sou zitw sygnwmh kai gia to entono yfos pou sou milisa (h' kalytera sou egrapsa :P )xthes.Apla ta pernw,ta lew ekeinh th stigmh (gkriniazw kanonika :P )alla de krataw kakia (pws na sou kratisw alloste me tetoio icon? :D :D ).
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 16:55
@ Trampakoula
Basika den tous xwnw olous mesa sto idio saki. Eipa pws oi perissoteroi pou exw gnwrisei einai ayta pou eipa telos pantwn. Kai aytoi pou exw gnwrisei sigoura den apoteloun kapoio sebasto pososto.
Ton ori tru den ton dexomai me opoia ennoia ki an xreisimopoieitai. Opoios akolou8ei "patroparadotes syntages" tou Heavy Metal, paizei apla Heavy Metal. Tipota allo. Etsi einai san na dexomaste ton "8anato" tou eidous kai tin ypar3i kapoion retro groups pou apla kai mizera anapoloun "xamena megaleia". Den 3erw... Etsi mou fainetai! Pantws ontws tetoies syzitiseis den exoun teleiwmo kyriws mesw PC.
Telos....
Den 8ymamai an isoun stin koubenta peri punk kai metal. 8ewrw geloia tin apopsi oti to Metal den exei kamia sxesi me to punk. To ena edwse sto allo kai sigoura to Metal einai ayto pou pire perissotera. Oxi, den akouw ka8olou punk. Toulaxiston group pou einai dilwmena punk. P.x. Exploited den exw akousei pote sti zwi mou... oute nota. Motorhead omws akouw kai karagoustarw. Kai oi Motorhead exoun pai3ei punk... Oxi diaskeyes, alla milaw gia dika tous kommatia. Den mporw para na to paradextw ws gegonos. Ta perissotera omws se ayto to styl pou den mou aresoun apla den t'akouw. Kai stin koubenta pou eixame kanenas ap'tous "ybristes tou punk" den sxoliase to gegonos oti polla igetika groups (Sodom, Megadeth, Venom klp klp alla kyriws oi Manowar) eixan/exoun estw kai ena melos opado tou Punk. Gi'ayto kai egw to kopanaw synexeia na balouna kala sto skulp tous. Twra oti auto den exei kamia apolytws sxesi ENNOEITAI omws o tropos pou e8elotyfloun tous kanei na min exoun kan epixeirimata.
Ayta...
Witchkiller
30-04-2004, 16:59
Basika to lathos poy kaneis Kwsta einai oti den diaxwrizeis to polemiko apo to epiko.Einai teleiws diaforetika
Re jhonny mi me mperdeyeis me ton Rockavlon :P :P
A,kai kati allo Jhon.Sorry re file alla de tha erthw patrida ayrio giati douleyw Sabbatiatiko (nai,kserw,prwtomagia alla idiotikos tomeas einai aytos). :(
Ton ori tru den ton dexomai me opoia ennoia ki an xreisimopoieitai. Opoios akolou8ei "patroparadotes syntages" tou Heavy Metal, paizei apla Heavy Metal. Tipota allo. Etsi einai san na dexomaste ton "8anato" tou eidous kai tin ypar3i kapoion retro groups pou apla kai mizera anapoloun "xamena megaleia".
An to pisteueis pragmatika auto den vriskw logo na min sou aresoun oi Wotan,oi Lonewolf i ta duo prota Doomsword pou exoun tis rizes tous 100% sto klasiko heavy metal.
Oson afora to punk min anoixoume pali sizitisi giati den teleiwnoume.
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 17:00
Profanws i kafrila kai o polemos poy vgenei mesa apo ti mousiki tous poy einai gemati tsampouka den exei tpt to epiko-polemiko.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Ta spaw :P
An synexistei se aytous tous tous tonous to topic 8a bre8oume na klaiei o enas sto wmo tou allou.... Kai oxi tipota allo alla eimaste kai Matalades, mi to3exname :D
Witchkiller
30-04-2004, 17:05
Asxeto,alla de sxoliasa to Icon sou Giannakh!
:headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: :headbang2: :beerz: :headbang2: :beerz: :headbang2: :beerz: :headbang2: :pink: :pink: :headbang2: :pink: :headbang2:
Brocas reeeeeeeee
:D
exoun kiautoi punk stoixeia omos e? :|
TRAMPAKOULAS
30-04-2004, 17:07
pros witchkiller
o giannhs me to kwsta se mena anaferotan :D
pros Wotan
giannh egw den eipa oti oi bolt thrower einai epikoi.apla metefera mia apopsh pou akousa apo kapoion.egw lew pws paizoun war metal :D
Girisa ellada!!!
Stormtrooper- ME THYMASAI RE POUSTH?
Ela re pusth ela,fere kai to maxairi sou mazi. Sto alsos ths kaisaraianhs na kateveis.
Loipon 8 to vrady eksw apo Kavoura eksarxia.Ela all dressed in black and we have us a knifefight bitch (Tarantinies)
Oplisou me dio stravrokatsavida kai egw tha skasw me alisida pu tha tin strifogirizw sto heri (Theos- Houligkans)
Ta leme ekei na dume ama eheis arxidia h kremidia.
Ama ertheis perimene me kiolas giati borei na eimai mesa na katharizw dipita na kardamosw.
Punk's not dead re-Hail
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 17:10
Ton ori tru den ton dexomai me opoia ennoia ki an xreisimopoieitai. Opoios akolou8ei "patroparadotes syntages" tou Heavy Metal, paizei apla Heavy Metal. Tipota allo. Etsi einai san na dexomaste ton "8anato" tou eidous kai tin ypar3i kapoion retro groups pou apla kai mizera anapoloun "xamena megaleia".
An to pisteueis pragmatika auto den vriskw logo na min sou aresoun oi Wotan,oi Lonewolf i ta duo prota Doomsword pou exoun tis rizes tous 100% sto klasiko heavy metal.
Den diafwnisa oti exoun tetoies rizes. Omws ayto den einai kritirio gia na mou aresoun. Ayta pou me noiazoun einai i mousiki, i empneysi, to feeling, i brwmia, i kafrila kai polla alla. Oute to Death mou aresei, alla karagoustarw Bolt Thrower (pou pro-anaferate) giati i mousiki tous, sta aytia mou, GAMAEI! Episis to oti oi rizes tous einai sto klassiko Heavy Metal den simainei aytomatws pws to apotelesma einai Heavy Metal. Den mporw na to e3igisw me le3eis. Apla, an mporeite na katalabete, i megaloprepeia pou bgazoun kai ta synais8imata pou mou genoun ta pragmatika '80s group den yparxei s'ayti ti malakia pou legete Tru...
Oson afora to punk min anoixoume pali sizitisi giati den teleiwnoume.
...isws giati den exete kanena epixeirima...
Giati se ola osa eipa se allo topic den apantisate se KANENA ap'ta epixeirimata mou. Kai an 8es na 3anampoume se ekeino to topic kai me quote na 3ekinisete na apantate...
Witchkiller
30-04-2004, 17:11
:D
exoun kiautoi punk stoixeia omos e? :|
E,entaksy mi to xesoume kai teliws re Jhon.Exoune kapia 70ies hard rock/rock 'n'roll stoixeia sta riffs tous,ews polla tha elega (px Wariors Of The Dark-klassiko riff hardrockila 70ies me Rock 'N' Roll domh:la,re,la,re,kopsimo,solo pentatonikla,Here To Rock,to teliwma tou Beneath A Hunted Moon) alla oxi kai punk.Eleos!.A,gia na mi pareksigithoume ,Rock 'N' Roll de simenei punk :wink:
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 17:21
Girisa ellada!!!
Stormtrooper- ME THYMASAI RE POUSTH?
Ela re pusth ela,fere kai to maxairi sou mazi. Sto alsos ths kaisaraianhs na kateveis.
Loipon 8 to vrady eksw apo Kavoura eksarxia.Ela all dressed in black and we have us a knifefight bitch (Tarantinies)
Oplisou me dio stravrokatsavida kai egw tha skasw me alisida pu tha tin strifogirizw sto heri (Theos- Houligkans)
Ta leme ekei na dume ama eheis arxidia h kremidia.
Ama ertheis perimene me kiolas giati borei na eimai mesa na katharizw dipita na kardamosw.
Punk's not dead re-Hail
AYTA EINAI!!!
Mono file pou den 8a pai3w me tous kanones sou. To meeting 8a ginei ayrio apogeyma. Kai oxi E3arxei kai malakies. 8a eimaste mono EGW ki ESY. Makrya apo kosmo.
Loipon, na mi makrygoroume.
Alsos Galatsiou 'h Panorama Galatsiou. Opou protimas. Apomera einai kai ta dyo. Se periptwsi pou dw kosmo mazi sou tin exeis kanei laxeio. Eipa EGW ki ESY! Episis 8a dialekseis kai tin wra.
ti les re,den pezw ektos edras.ama thes kateva pirea se perimenw pale de spor pisw apo tis basketes 6 to proi. tha valw kasetofono me ti musikh good-bad-ugly (morikones) sto background na ine poli tru metal h fash. kai kiriakh,de borw avrio,tha vgw me gkomena. Eipame tru metal ala oxi kai na mi vaftei to avgo e
Angrafan
30-04-2004, 17:53
poia gomena? thn kserw?
Stormtrooper
30-04-2004, 20:24
ti les re,den pezw ektos edras.ama thes kateva pirea se perimenw pale de spor pisw apo tis basketes 6 to proi. tha valw kasetofono me ti musikh good-bad-ugly (morikones) sto background na ine poli tru metal h fash. kai kiriakh,de borw avrio,tha vgw me gkomena. Eipame tru metal ala oxi kai na mi vaftei to avgo e
Eisai geloios kai 8rasydeilos re! Eisai opws akribws se periegrapsan:
"Kakoma8imeno kwlopaido me megali glwssa". Kanenas den pistepse pws exeis t'arxidia na skaseis myti monos sou.
Karagkiwzi! O oros einai o e3is:
Oi DYO MAS kai mono se apomonwmeno meros pou 8a orisw egw! Otidipote allo einai apla ypekfygi apo merous sou.
Egw 8a briskomai sto Alsos Galatsiou stis 5 to apogeyma aurio. 8a parw to ama3i kai 8a paw bolta gia tsigaro. An 8eleis ela. Alliws ton poulo. Mpouli!
Akous ekei 6 to prwi tin Kyriaki...
Raven Lord
30-04-2004, 20:29
Akous ekei 6 to prwi tin Kyriaki...
:yawn: :dsleep:
Stormtrooper
01-05-2004, 12:38
Pou eisai re gamimene flwre?
Mono figoura kai mpla-mpla eisai...
Mono mi se petyxw pou8ena.
Aposyrwmai!
Witchkiller
01-05-2004, 18:40
Egw protinw na xalarwsete kai oi 2 kai na pate kapou na lysete tis diaforesas politismena pinwntas kati.De nomizete oti einai gelio n'anoiksoune kefalia (opianou kai na 'nai ayto) gia toso ilithia pramata?Xalarwsteeeeeee.
Raven Lord
01-05-2004, 18:47
Egw 8a briskomai sto Alsos Galatsiou stis 5 to apogeyma aurio.
@witch τώρα ότι κεφάλι ήταν να ανοίξει, άνοιξε... :P
ή μήπως όχι... περιμένουμε αναφορά :P ... ε, storm?
Witchkiller
01-05-2004, 18:51
Egw ana exw na pw mono:tha einai malakia na pathei kapoios zhmia epeidh yparxei pareksigish gia mousikh.An einai dynaton.Wraia kai xrysa ta 80ies alla oi tsampoukades pou peftane peri mousikhs htan athlioi epioikws.Sakateytike tosos kosmos gia malakies (athlitika,mousikh kai ta resta).
Raven Lord
01-05-2004, 18:54
Egw ana exw na pw mono:tha einai malakia na pathei kapoios zhmia epeidh yparxei pareksigish gia mousikh.An einai dynaton.Wraia kai xrysa ta 80ies alla oi tsampoukades pou peftane peri mousikhs htan athlioi epioikws.Sakateytike tosos kosmos gia malakies (athlitika,mousikh kai ta resta).
εντάξει ρε, εννοούνται αυτά... για να μην παίζονται σοβαρά σκηνικά πρέπει να τα παίρνεις όλα λίγο στην πλάκα. τελοσπάντων, ετσι κι αλλιώς δε μας αφορά το θέμα...
Stormtrooper
01-05-2004, 20:58
Fysika kai to "tsigaro" to ekana monos mou.
Re Kwsta me douleyeis? Afou to 3ereis poly kala pws to 8ema den einai i mousiki. St'arxidia mou ti akouei o ka8enas. Alla to sygkekrimeno malakismeno eipe pws 8a mou gamisei oti agapw. Alla pou t'arxidia na gamisei prwta emena? Mono na ton petyxw pou8ena. Mono ayto... Kai oxi tipota allo, alla exei kai tromero 8rassos. Eipe oti 8a mou gamisei oti agapw kai nomizei pws 8a ton afisw etsi...
RE! 8A SE KANW NA FTYSEIS AIMA!
Witchkiller
02-05-2004, 02:54
An kai tha ta poume ki apo konta,ksekola Niko.Oi tsamoukades den odhgoune pouthena.Xalarwste kai oi dyo sas.Bghte kai syzitisteta.Apo to pc ginintai polles pareksigiseis apo to tipota.
De ksanampainw s'ayto to topic.To gamhsame kai psofise.Einai krima dyo atoma pou fden exoune tipota ousiastiko na xwrisoune na psaxnontai na skotothoune.Paw n'akousw Omen.....
rockavlon
02-05-2004, 06:46
den eiste trou epic warriors of the rising sun and th setting moon....
prepei na paroute spathia apo thn omonoia na t akonisoute me
petres kai na fight till the death sto elaiodasos ths stadiou. mono etsi tha nai TROU... oi plhrwmens plhrwnontai me aima...
Raven Lord
02-05-2004, 16:33
Fysika kai to "tsigaro" to ekana monos mou.
το περίμενα...
νομίζω ότι ο κώστας έχει δίκιο πάντως. :?
(viastika-apo spiti filou)
re zwo apotetie pws se lene,nomizeis oti ime hameno kormi oli mera apnw apo to pc? sthn ellada ehw apirus filus gia na vgw de tha katsw na malakizomai panw apo ena pc olimeris opws esy. net kai paparies apo agglia mono pu ta ksinw.
tespa pu les epidh ipa na to parw stin plaka ala mu eprikses ta arxidia, avrio 5 h wra apogevma sti marina zeas pirea panw apo to kanoni tou papanikoli. tha ginei i navmaxia tou Vizarone
siga me faw tis politimes mu meres edw na trehw galatsia kai varibobes gia kati arureus san kai sena
tha mai monos.ama thes ela.ali ora gia skulikanteres san kain sena denprokite na spatalisw -online h offline
Telika den vlepw na bretheite pote :(
lost_icon
02-05-2004, 22:28
lock this topic plzzzzzzzzz
TRAMPAKOULAS
02-05-2004, 22:49
ean den sou aresei to thread file mou,yparxei panta h epilogh na mhn to diavazeis!
nai!toso apla einai ta pragmata!
ama xaliesai giati asxoleisai?
StationEleven
02-05-2004, 22:53
ti egine pesane mapes telika ?
lost_icon
02-05-2004, 23:30
ean den sou aresei to thread file mou,yparxei panta h epilogh na mhn to diavazeis!
nai!toso apla einai ta pragmata!
ama xaliesai giati asxoleisai?
se parapempw stis 13 selides tou ierou thread pou yposthrizeis kai an vgaleis nohma sfyra mou kai mena. :rofl: :rofl:
TRAMPAKOULAS
02-05-2004, 23:39
nohma vgainei an e3aireseis merikes ypervoles
alla epanalamvanw
efoson esy den vgazeis nohma,giati asxoleisai me to thread?
ase ton kosmo edw na fagw8ei,na vgalei ta matia tou,na kanei genika oti 8elei
ean oloi mas asxoloumastan me ta threads pou mas aforoun kai mas endiaferoun kai mono,tote 8a eixan apofevx8ei polles pare3hghseis,diafwnies kai kavgades
einai na san na bw egw sto thread opeth kai na lew "pwpw ti malakies grafete,oi opeth twn pairnoun" ktl
o ka8enas ston tomea tou loipon
aftaaaaaaaaa
lost_icon
03-05-2004, 01:08
an parathrhses den asxolithika katholou peri tou kainouriou diskou twn wotan kai oute eksefrasa gnwmh giati den me apasxolei alla arxisane na legontai kati kotsanes peri cathedral kai meta to gyrisane peri klwtsompounidiwn kai ntaks oso nanai den nomizw oti yparxei logos na to kratame to thread.
Witchkiller
03-05-2004, 08:47
ti egine pesane mapes telika ?
Mpa.Ksenera :P
Xwris plaka,kalytera.To olo skhniko einai psilotragiko.
Yparxoun kalytera pragmata apo to ksilo (kala,ama mou elege kaneis prin 2 xronia kai pisw oti egw tha milaga etsi tha paithena sta gelia :shock: ) .
To Sabbato mporeis
Oooxiii,oooxiii
Ti Kyriakh mporeis
Oooxiii,oooxiii
Praskeyh mporeis
Mporw,mporw
Alla de mporw egwwwww
wwwwwwwww
Xoxoxoxoxoxo.
E re glentia :P
Dark-Avenger
03-05-2004, 23:47
PS: O ki8aristas tou group sto avatar tou Dark-Avenger itan stous Dictators pou epaizan punk.
Asxeto, apla goustarw na to lew! :P
Και ο θεός ο Hays των Brocas Helm ακούει Jazz νομίζω και σχεδόν καθόλου metal, αλλά αυτά που έχει παίξει παραμένουν θεϊκά. Θυμάστε εκείνο το τεράστιο drum solo όταν είχαν έρθει Ελλάδα; Απλά ΘΕΟΣ.-
Όπως και ο Ross είναι θεός, γιατί κακά τα ψέματα τα καλύτερα κομμάτια Manowar είναι στην επί Ross εποχή. Αν μπορεί και βγάζει τέτοιο feeling με την κιθάρα του, στα @@ μου για το πού αλλού ήταν.
PS: Ξέρω, άργησα να απαντήσω αλλά αυτά γίνονται όταν ζεις ένα άκρως παρακμιακό 3ήμερο μακρυά απο τεχνολογίες και λοιπά διαβολικά.
PPS: Επειδή είδα και τα όσα ακολούθησαν περί ξύλου, συμφωνώ απόλυτα με τον Witchkiller. Υπάρχουν πολλά καλύτερα πράγματα να κάνετε(π.χ να περάσετε ένα άκρως παρακμιακό 3ήμερο :P).
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