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to exei dei kaneis?gamaei.einai dyomisi ores ergo kai sta teleutaia deka lepta katalava ti paizei
(nai eimai xazh alla de paizei rolo auto :p)
Ox kala an nomizeis oti katalaves sta teleutaia deka lepta kai oti eisai xazi pou de to eixes katalavei pio prin, mallon telika de katalaves tipota... (ego kai kala o exupnos tora...).
Telos panton. Apo tis kaluteres tainies pou exo dei kai apo artistiki apopsi kai apo sunaisthimatiki. Vasika eixe tromeri fotografia. Ase pou i gomenes elegan.
Kveldssanger
16-08-2003, 15:02
O Lynch einai eggyisi... Exairetiki tainia... Kai oso gia to an katalava ti egine? Exo akousei kai skeftei arketes ekdoxes alla telika den nomizo oti mporei kapoios na katalixei me sigouria ti akrivos synevh stin tainia...
symposium_lexotanil
16-08-2003, 19:08
ego pali gia na po tin alitheia,den katalava tpt.nai men i tainia ito poly poly kali (apsogi fotografia,foveri atmosfera,anelpista kalo casting kai orea istoria genika),alla genika me tis tainies tou lints exo provlima..tespa otan tin eida skeftika kapoia pragmata pou mporei na eksigousan tin oli katastasi,safws den esteke logika kanena apo auta,alla auto den exei kai idietero noima...etsi ki allios oi tainies tou lints den einai proion pros katanalosi (i kat anagki katanoisi),apla einai mia kali aformi,ena erethisma gia na proxoriseis monos sou kai na skefteis peretero.a kai opoios leei oti katalavainei tis tainies tou lints,einai i xazoulis i pozeri..
Ego pali pisteyo oti enas mesos (kai pano) anthropos einai adynato na katalavei thn tainia me thn proth fora. Oute kan me th 2h.
Epishs exo peistei meta apo merikes fores oti yparxei nohma kai se ayth opos kai se opoiadhpote allh tainia tou Lynch. Apla den einai toso apotelesmatikos o symvatikos tropos skepshs kai kritikhs tainion.
Pantos einai sigoura tainia pou pragmatika thn kouvalas mazi sou (opos lene kai oi protagonistes) kai se paideyei arketo kairo. Exei kaneis ta "10 clues to unlocking this thriller" pou dinei o Lynch sto DVD? Eimai periergos na akouso apopseis... ego exo hdh th dikh mou.
PS: Thn exo dei arketes fores kai akoma exo kena. Mhn exete thn entyposh oti to paizo eksypnos kets :) Exo mia theoria pou kollaei pantos.. an kai ta kena paramenoun.
symposium_lexotanil
17-08-2003, 02:30
yeh 10 clues mah ass....
paparies pou skeftikan na prosthesoun ek ton ysteron gia na to kanoun pio endiaferon isos i gia na akoustei perissotero kai na poulisei parapano..?de nomizo oti o lints eixe kamia fagoura na xonei "clues" stis tainies tou kai malista na ta episimainei kiolas meta ypo morfi etoimis pliroforias..
eksallou apo tote pou o idios o lints eipe oti den exei idea gia to ti ginetai sto lost highway kai oti ekane o,ti tou rxotan,exo papsei na anisixo gia to an katalavaino i oxi tis tainies tou..
Vasika den einai akrivos clues. Einai erothseis apantontas stis opoies pairneis ta clues apo monos sou (supposedly). De tha perimena mashmenh trofh apo ton Lynch.
Sovara eipe tetoio pragma gia to "Lost Highway"? Ki ekei ola fainontai logika (einai pio "eykolo" apo to "Mulholland Dr.") ektos apo 1-2 shmeia.. hmm.. mhpos to parakano? :P
Em vasika ego tin eida me enan filo mou kai afou teleiose to suzitisame kana misaoro, katalixame se mia theoria i opoia itan kata to 70% sosti kai meta vrikame sto internet mia 100% ikanopoiitiki exigisi i opoia exei na kanei me oneira profanos, kathos to 70% tis tainias einai oneiro, kai to teleutaio misaoro einai xronika poluploko. Alla den einai kati to entelos koulo, se antithesi me to Lost Highway to opoio dustuxos de paizei na to katalabo pote, polu pio kouli tainia, isos na min exei kai logiki exigisi.
Ego exo kollhsei mono sto thema ths "metamorfoshs". Anyway des to "Eraserhead" na klaseis :)
MoRmEnGiL
18-08-2003, 19:33
O lynch einai psyxaki.Let me repeat that:
O Lynch einai psyxaki
To mullholland Drive kat eme einai ena xwroxroniko mple3imo pragmatikothtas,fantasias-fantasiwshs,kai oneirou.KAi san na mh ftanei auto,exei kai arketous symbolisous.Katalabe kaneis ti htan to skhniko me to kleidi to mple?pws xw8hke sth fantasiwsh ?opws kai to kouti dld.Mple kleidi emfanisthke meta,kanoniko,kai htan to synialo oti egine o fonos..alla trexa gyreue meta..
Egw exw mia aporia pragmatikh:O typas me to filo tou sthn kafeteria,pou tou elege to oneiro pou eide kai katatroma3e...pou kollaei gmt????? :confused: :confused: :confused:
necropethamenos
19-08-2003, 00:12
To exw dei paaaaaaaara polles fores kai apla kserw oti de prokeitai na katalavw.
Symfwnw oti ta clues ta evale apla gia na psarwsei kiallo ton theati kai oloi na poun "wwwww malakaaaa".
Otan tin eftiakse de nomizw na iksere akrivws ti paizei.
E gamaei pantws.
Dragonlord
19-08-2003, 11:29
vasika vriskw asteio to oti otan evgaina apo to cinema oloi epsaxnan na vroun ti egine.giati de mporei o kosmos mia sto toso apla na to voulwnei kai na apolamvanei ta mind games pou prosferei af8ona mia tainia xwris na prepei na e3hghsei ta panta?
eimai sigouros pws otan o lynch egrafe ta 10 clues eri3e poly gelio..
Tora ayto h kanei emena ilithio (pou me epeise oti yparxei nohma kai psaxnomoun toso kairo) h esas (pou exete "katalavei" oti den yparxei). Hm.. :)
Safos kai uparxei noima stin tainia kai se ola, asxetos an o Lynch thelei na pisteuoun oloi oti pairnei sklira narkotika kai vazei stin tainia oti tou katevei... Opoios thelei tou vrisko kai site me pliri exigisi, pou meta de tha borei na vrei oute mia aporia gia tin tainia. Kata ta alla, otan rotisan ton Lynch gia to senario tis tainias xerete ti apantise? Eipe: "Oi dromoi sto Los Angeles to vrady einai polu omorfoi..."
ahhahaha
MoRmEnGiL
19-08-2003, 19:49
Xmou.Safws kai exei nohma h taineia.apla prepei na thn deis afairetika.kai na mhn ta pairneis ola toso kyriolektika.E o lynch kanei texnh,kai opws eipa se allo thread,oute o pikasso ebgaze nohma akribws alla oloi ton 8ewroun megalo. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Oute o Lynch den katalavenei tis tainies tou. Elpizo na min ton pernete sovara mono k mono gia to "Cult" k kala status.
Dragonlord
20-08-2003, 16:08
@blitz:no worries,apla h apopsh mou einai pws den exei "nohma" me th symvatikh ennoia.logo ypar3hs kai nohma san kallitexnikh dhmiourgia safws kai exei.anyway i could be wrong as always
Solo Carriera
20-08-2003, 16:50
Exw mia vavel pou eksigei kathe skhnh ths tainias kai apoti katalava yparxei logikh eksigish.. Vevaia den ekatsa pote na to diavasw olokliro mias kai h tainia den mou arese toso oso se allous alla sigoura exei apotipothei sth mnhmh mou.
Deite kai to elephant man. Kamia sxesh me to mulholland drive alla leei...
Dragonlord
20-08-2003, 16:58
well ki egw eixa petyxei enan typo sto irc pou elege pws to rage for order einai concept gia vrykolakes kai eixe vrei kati api8anes e3hghseis gia ola ta tragoudia..o,ti 8es mporeis na e3hghseis,eidika otan einai toso flou oso to mulholland drive.pantws 8a me endiefere na to diavasw,kapoia stigmh an 8es dwsto sto sympo
Ekana ena search sto yahoo.
http://www.franksreelreviews.com/reviews/mdexplain.htm
An de katalaveis meta apo auto, an de varetheis na to diavaseis vevaia, tha se fonazo kollimeno metalliko filaraki.
Pare kai to vasikotero kommati apo to site pou sou edosa ligo pio pano.... ti na po... de nomizo oti uparxei ena pragma flou se autin tin exigisi. An de variesai, boreis na to apomnimoneuseis kiolas. hohoho
Sequence of Events in Mulholland Dr. (according to wicket_saic@hotmail.com)
1. Diane wins the Jitterbug contest. Her family (the old man and old woman) is there and cheers for her. (this is much earlier than any of the rest of the movie. years possibly)
2. Camilla and Diane fool around on the couch (notice the ashtray). Camilla says that they shouldn't do that anymore.
3. Camilla and the director talk and kiss in the car for the movie.
4. Diane gets a phone call and is told to get in the limo. She is dropped of at the bottom of the directors house. The dinner scene occurs in which she finds out that her lover Camilla and the director are getting married.
5. Diane sits in a restaurant with the hit-man and tells him to kill Camilla.
6. Diane returns home and feels guilty.
7. She falls asleep on the pillow.
8. Diane has a long dream. What happens in this dream is coming from guilt and the people surrounding her life. The director who is getting married to her x-lover has a terrible life. Her x-lover loves her again. Diane is an amazing actress and does a great job. The part with the men in the restaurant and the monster is all just a part of the dream. The cowboy has nothing to do with the movie for the most part. He was just seen by Diane at one point and he stuck with her so heΥs in her dream. Her dead aunt shows up. She mixes up names just like everybody often does in dreams. None of this is real. There are many things her dream feeds off of... to many things to try to explain. The dream begins with Camilla (Rita) in the car and ends with the cowboy waking her up. That is all within her dream.
9. A knocking wakes Diane up. It is her neighbor looking for the rest of her belongings. She picks up her ashtray (notice the blue key) and says that there are detectives looking for Diane.
10. While making coffee, Diane thinks she sees Camilla (who she just had killed). Its just a daydream.
11. Diane goes and sits on the couch and stares at the blue key. Someone is knocking (I think that this could be the detectives looking for Diane). The little people are her family representing her conscience. She gets scarred of the knocking and the haunting visions of her loved ones and she runs into her room and shoots herself.
THE END
This is the order in which the movie plays out.
1, 7, credits, 8, 9, 10, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11 end credits
Dragonlord
20-08-2003, 21:06
xmou 8a to noikiasw otan 8a exw xrono kai 8a to psa3w.mia fora to exw dei outws h allws,sto cinema.nta3ei pantws ermhneia tou styl "olo auto to meros einai ena oneiro kai gi'auto mperdeuei kai ta onomata"..tespa den 3erw,8a dei3ei,maybe i'm wrong
Me ftiaksate tora :P
Mia xara einai opos ta leei o typos, apla den emvathynei. Oso gia to "olo auto to meros einai ena oneiro kai gi'auto mperdeuei kai ta onomata" den einai akrivos etsi. Kai o logos einai akrivos oti ta stoixeia pou dinei einai mia perilhpsh. Ta parakato ta ksethapsa epishs apo palia posts mou se allo forum. Oi teleytaies parentheseis se kathe paragrafo einai sxolia pou prosthesa tora.
Ta clues mazi me oti ekshghsh mporo na doso:
1. Pay particular attention in the beginning of the film: at least two clues are revealed before the credits.
Edo eixa kollhsei. Einai 2 lepta skhnh kai den evriska TPT! Mono to oti kanei fade out estiazontas sto maksilari, to opoio deixnei oti oneireyetai... to 2o pou einai?? (Tora pou eida parapano, mallon oti kerdise to diagonismo, an kai to theorousa dedomeno)
2. Notice appearances of the red lampshade.
AN thymamai kala, emfanizetai mia fora sthn arxh tou ergou, sto spiti ths theias Ruth kai th 2h emfanizetai dipla sto thlefono pou xtypaei, otan psaxnoun gia thn ithopoio (h skhnh me ta 3 diadoxika thlefonhmata). To opoio shmainei oti piso apo thn olh fash kryvetai h theia Ruth? Ola einai sxediasmena gia thn epityxia ths anhpsias ths? Hmmm...
3. Can you hear the title of the film that Adam Kesher is auditioning actresses for? Is it mentioned again?
The Silvia North Story? H plaka einai oti - epishs an thymamai kala - stous ypotitlous den yparxei POUTHENA o titlos.. se oloklhrh thn tainia.. Alla pou anaferetai 2h fora (an anaferetai kai proth dld.. kai gi'ayto exo amfivolies)? (Telika anaferetai ontos 2 fores. To proseksa thn teleytaia fora pou eida thn tainia. Mia pros to telos pou kathontai sto trapezi kai syzhtane, einai h tainia sthn opoia exase to rolo h ksanthoula apo th melaxroinh [den anafero onomata giati einai mperdema]. Th 2h fora [h mallon 1h] anaferetai sthn audition gia thn protagonistria. Otan vgainei h "this is the girl" [an thymamai kala] akougetai sto background ena "Silvia North Story take two" h kati paromoio.)
4. An accident is a terrible event... notice the location of the accident.
Mulholland Drive.. alla pou einai to clue?
5. Who gives a key, and why?
O Joe, o typos pou plhronetai gia na dolofonhsei thn Camilla... Giati omos? (Giati? Hm.. mallon to kleidi sta xeria ths ksanthoulas dhlonei oti o fonos egine.. h Camilla einai nekrh)
6. Notice the robe, the ashtray, the coffee cup.
Ayta ta stoixeia voithane mono kai mono na katalaveis th xronologikh seira ton skhnon se kapoio shmeio tou ergou. Sygkekrimena ligo prin aytoktonhsei h Diane, sth 2h skhnh me to gymno.
H geitonas ths irthe kai phre to tasaki pou ths anhke, en to metaksy h Diane forouse mia rompa kai epine cafe. E otan DEN yparxei to tasaki sto trapezi, ayth foraei rompa kai vlepeis mia koupa cafe sto trapezaki, einai to paron. Allios (dld otan to tasaki einai sto trapezi, ayth DE foraei rompa kai h koupa einai pleon ena pothri ouiski) einai pragmata pou thymatai apo to parelthon ths... (To daydream pou leei o typos parapano)
7. What is felt, realized and gathered at the club Silencio?
"No hay banda". Oti ola einai fake. Ayto pou vlepeis, akous, aisthanesai, den einai aparaithta ayto pou symvainei. Epishs edo vriskoun to perifhmo mple kouti (an ayto ennoei me to "gathered").
8. Did talent alone help Camilla?
Gkoux gkoux.. oxi den htan mono to talento ths.. evale kai ta megala mesa.. gkoux gkoux
9. Note the occurences surrounding the man behind Winkies.
Ayto den to polykatalava. Any help? Exo diavasei oti o typos pou moiazei me pithiko einai thylhkos. Ton ypodyetai gynaika. Epishs exo diavasei oti isos einai o aposyntithemenos eaytos ths Diane (meta thn aytoktonia). Sigoura kati symvoliko einai alla den exo polykatalavei. (Exo thn entyposh oti akoma ki ayto kati shmainei sthn tainia, den yparxei tyxaia mesa opos yposthrizei o typos tou Fixxxer, alla who knows...)
10. Where is Aunt Ruth?
Ela nte.. ston Canada? H mhpos nekrh? Hmm :)
Ena clue pou voithaei paaaaaaaaaaaara poly, an den to kserete hdh, einai oti to proto meros tou ergou einai to oneiro ths ksanthoulas, eno to 2o h pragmatikothta. Otan to ksanadeite, estiaste sto 2o meros kai oxi sto 1o. Deite ta prosopa pou synantaei h ksanthoula (den anafero onomata giati exo kairo na to do kai mh sas mperdepso) sto deipno kai pos ta vazei se diaforous entelos ksekarfotous rolous sto 1o meros gia na plasei thn istoria pou ekeinh thelei. Einai megalo mperdema vasika giati o Lynch se odhgei akrivos ekei pou thelei me ayto ton tropo. Sou deixnei ton cowboy, tous mafiozous kai thn olh synomosia (eno sthn ousia ayta einai mono sth fantasia ths ksanthoulas) kai sto 2o meros stous deixnei olous mazemenous se ena spiti kai frikareis. Les "ti sto diaolo ginetai?". Ki omos etsi ekshgountai ola. Einai tyxaia atoma pou synanthse h ksanthoula sth zoh ths kai plathei ooooooooooolh ayth thn istoria gia na dikaiologhsei thn apotyxhmenh ths kariera (kai zoh isos...). Ouf polla eipa. As synexisei kapoios kai ta leme laterz
(Aytaaaaaa... tha epaneltho an sxoliasei kapoios :P)
koyremeno_aygo
21-08-2003, 01:19
dhlwnw arxika oti thn exw dei panw apo (s)exi fores (thn tainia)den 8ymamai akribws poses kai thn 8ewrw o,ti kalytero exei gyristei edw kai pooooooolla xronia.symfwnw sta perissotera me ton prolaleisanta ektos apo to 7.egw to eixa pio poly san thn "anaparastash" tou 8anatou,dld pws pe8ainei enas an8rwpos.koinws estiasa sto silencio pio poly.den xerw isws na'xeis kai dikio.ayto omws pou ka8enas den exei exhghsei toulaxiston apo aytoys pou xerw einai th skhnh me to biblio me tis dolofonies klp klp.mallon lost highway fash einai.koinws xekarfwth.
ps:a kai gia thn olh fash tou winkies dikia mou exhghsh einai oti o typos einai o 8anatos-o idios-.den pei8w kanenan omws e?
Enas filos mou pou kanei metaptyxiako sto parisi(exei teleiwsei psyxologia) parakolou8ise seminario analysis apo psyxologous tis tainias kai mou edwse mia eksigisi basismeni sta oneira i opoia itan 100% peistiki.An brw to mail tou 8a kanw post!
symposium_lexotanil
22-08-2003, 13:50
xm ego pali eimai pepeismenos oti fxaristithika tin tainia poly perissotero apo autous pou psaksan "logikes" eksigiseis...
opos eipe kai o dragon maybe i'm wrong,as always..
Dragonlord
22-08-2003, 14:00
yep auto panw katw ennoousa sto prwto mou post..ok mporeis na to deis deyterh-trith-dekath fora gia na psa3eis na katalaveis,alla vriskw poly anohto to na psaxneis apo thn prwth fora pou 8a deis thn tainia na katalaveis ti paizei.molis katalava pws einai teleiws allou gi allou to ergo,apla ara3a kai apolausa thn olh fash..se anti8esh me tous perissoterous sto cinema pou mallon htan aporrofhmenoi sto na psaxnoun ti akrivws egine (apo tis syzhthseis pou akousa vgainontas apo thn ai8ousa)
Ma o Lynch auto akrivos eipe... oti eftiaxe mia tainia me oraies skines pou thelei apla na katsei na tin apolausei o kosmos xoris na skeftei ti ginetai.... auto de simainei oti de boreis na katseis META na tin analuseis... eleos... jezas. :p
katwrimos
22-08-2003, 16:23
Exo kairo na do tin tainia. To mono pu thimamai einai oti itan poli kali. Oson afora to ti paizei, afto pu epiasa ego einai oti to proto meros tis tenias einai fantasiosi tis ksanthias giafto oloi ti theorun ipergomena kai kali ithopoio, eno to deftero meros einai i pragmatikotita opou oloi tin klanun. Alla mi vasizestai kai poly se afto, tin tenia tin exo dei mono mia fora.
o lynch gamaei genikos
den to xo dei, isws giati 8a mou ti spasei to gegonos oti de 8a katalabo tpt.
de brisko to logo na ti do, an einai opws ta leei o fixxxer.. na apolauso tis skines? kalitera na diabaso kana national geographic.
duh
Ki omos ego pisteuo oti tha eprepe na tin deis... axizei me opoio tropo kai na to pareis. Stin teliki, exei kai skini me lesvies. hahaha
Dragonlord
23-08-2003, 20:27
den to xo dei, isws giati 8a mou ti spasei to gegonos oti de 8a katalabo tpt.
de brisko to logo na ti do, an einai opws ta leei o fixxxer.. na apolauso tis skines? kalitera na diabaso kana national geographic.
duh
me auth th logikh de 8a eprepe na akous ka8olou instrumental tragoudia h tragoudia me stixous pou den exoun kati endiaferon na sou poun
ali8eia? den to ksera.
dld ta instrumentals kai ena dioro "orewn" eikonwn kai skinwn einai to idio pragma?
an gia sena ontws einai, pou to apeuxomai... kai an 8eoreitai tainia mia sinthesi twn parapanw, tote... tote.... den ksero, fainetai pos exo xrisimopoihsei oles tis pi8anes katalikseis gia auti ti frasi. you get the point.
ki anyway, an pragmatika einai, tote ki ego eimai akoustikos tipos.
Dragonlord
23-08-2003, 22:12
either you get it,or you don't
symposium_lexotanil
24-08-2003, 02:08
xm exei arxisei na ginetai anisixitika antidrastikos teleutaia?
thes na katalikseis san ki emena?? ee?? auto thes??
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enitharmon
22-12-2003, 23:08
meta apo koinwnikes pieseis kai epeidi ithela ki egw na anoikw stous pefwtismenous pou exoun dei tin tainia ena exw ma pw:
SIXAINOMAI TAINIES POU ME KANOUN NA TROMAZW XWRIS LOGO KAI XWRIS NA TO PERIMENW!!!!! :evil:
milaw gia ti skini pisw apo to Winkies kai ti skini me to ptwma..... :x (an kai to deutero to perimena...) kati tetoia me kanoun na min euxaristiemai ti tainia gamwto, giati nomizw pws olo kai kati tha symvei pali... (eimai kota ti na kanoume)
peripou katalava ti paizei kai xwris na diavasw tis eksigiseis se auto to thread. pantws kali einai, de tha sygkatalexthei stis kalyteres pou exw dei kai mallon de tha tin ksanadw, alla katalavainw, giati oloi ti thewroun toso teleia!
ps: to teras pisw apo to winkies isws symvolizei ton eswteriko kosmo tis Diane (etsi opws tin eide o typos sto tameio, tin ksanade kai sto oneiro tou), alla mallon den exei simasia
(etsi opws tin eide o typos sto tameio, tin ksanade kai sto oneiro tou)
No offense, alla an htan ola sto ergo toso apla, de tha to theorousame toso eksypno :)
enitharmon
23-12-2003, 00:29
to oti egw to vlepw etsi de simainei pws etsi einai kiolas... o cthulu eipe pws symvolizei to thanato.... o,ti thelei o kathenas... kai epeidi ena ergo einai eksypno de simainei pws den mporei na einai aplo se kapoia simeia... (giati an mou peis pws to "teras" symvolizei ton cowboy px tha kanw ki egw etsi :roll: )
Um nai de diafono genikotera. Alla sth sygkekrimenh diafono.
Opos eipa kai se allo thread (h htan se ayto?), sigoura o kathenas dinei oti ekshghsh thelei, alla ayth pou eixe o skinotheths sto myalo tou einai mono mia.. kai h fash sto Winkies einai mia apo tis elaxistes skhnes pou den exo (pleon) polykatalavei.. Xoris na thelo na po oti epeidh den to katalava ego, den to katalavainei kaneis :P Apla nomizo oti einai ligo pio polyploko apo to "opos ton eide sto oneiro tou, ton eide ki ekei"... to opoio theoro dedomeno in the first place..
Pros to paron petao gia Ellada se liges ores. Ta leme apo kei :)
PS: Epishs exo pei oti enas mesos anthropos (isos kai ligo perissotero tou mesou eyfyhs) einai texnikos ADYNATO na "piasei" to ergo me thn proth fora. Oute kan me th 2h... (dedomenou oti den exei kanena clue). Anyway.. gnomes :)
enitharmon
23-12-2003, 16:53
ligo me noiazei ti symvolizei i skini sto Winkies... akoma kai kanena noima kai sxesi na eixe me tin tainia, toulaxiston gia mena, ekplirwse ena skopo: me tromakse (giati gia kapoio logo den to perimena). H tainia exei polles lipseis gwniwn, o ithopoios diladi proxwraei pros mia gwnia arga arga, me ypovlitiki mousiki, kai kathe fora pou ginotan auto, nomiza pws pali kati tha petaxtei.... kai den to fxaristithika... :? opws ki an exei, i skini auti me "empase" se allou eidous psychologia kai eida tin tainia apo kei kai pera me alli diathesi. kai mono gi' auto i skini sto Winkies aksize...
pera ap'auto, an aksizei kaneis na anarwtietai gia mia skini, tote gi'auti me to dolofono, ekei pou skotwnei to "filo" tou kai pernei to mauro vivlio... i xontri kai o katharistis pou kollane? :? mallon pouthena.....
@Drago kai sympo kai se osous ypostirizoun, pws auti i tainia einai gia apolausi kai oxi gia analysi: i tainia den einai arketa sourealistiki, gia na tin apolauseis aplws, na peis diladi pws den exei noima na prospatheis na katalaveis ti ginetai. emena mou dinei tin aisthisi tou Myst, synepws den mporw aplws na tin "apolausw" (ektos tou oti tin exw katataksei stis misites tainies, epeidi me tromakse... :x )
symposium_lexotanil
23-12-2003, 18:10
kala ego eidika prosopika de thelo na (yper)analyo kamia tainia,giati tis perissoteres fores xanetai to (krymmeno/kryfo) noima (an yparxei tetoio) kai sto telos ksenerono.opos episis apofeugo kai ta extras,kommenes skines,interviews kai loipes malakies.i texni einai texni kai maresei na tin apolamvano opos mou ti serviroun.apo kei kai pera an den piaso kati den peirazei.an einai na do tin tainia kai na mou to eksigisoun meta einai sa na min to xo katalavei katholou.
auta.
kat'arxhn exo dei thn tainia 6 fores kai exo perasei pano apo 6 mhnes me syzhthseis epi shzhthseon....kapou katalhgeis telika alla yparxoyn 2 kena...an loipon o Lynch den einai THEOS, ego eimai megalos ilithios..:)
anw...sovara tora...
eida thn tainia gia proth fora me dyo filous..o enas sto telos ths tainias kontepse na spasei thn TV kai efyge mesa sthn agria nyxta. Gia kapoio parakseno logo ego kai o allos enapomeinas thn meiname malakes kai thn ksanaeidame amesos (kapou edo na po oti pisteyo oti tha eniotha poly mlk an thn evlepa se cinema giati den pisteyo oti me mia fora katalavaineis tpt)
gia mena h tainia einai apaixth apo kathe apopsi (einai xalara h agaphmenh mou tainia) kai me exei stoixeiosei pragmatika.
Pisteyo oti o Lynch den vazei TIPOTA tyxaia stiw tainies toy...afhste ti dhlonei...den eipame oti den einai ekkentrikos.
afhno tis apopeires analyshs kai pao sto ekshs: ayto pou pragmatika me provlhmatizei einai to ti symperasmata tha eixa vgalei gia thn tainia an thn eixa analysei entelos monos mou...exo xasei gia panta aythn thn eykairia.
Ayto pou prepei na anagnorioume ston Lynch pantos einai oti eksantlei thn 7h texnh. Ekmetalleyetai sto epakro tis dunatothtes pou toy dinei kai o hxos kai h eikona kai to senario.
As mhn apokeioume omos kai thn pithanothta o Lynch na einai mia megalofuia ths opoias ton tropo skepshs aplos den mporoume na katalavoume
Telika ayto pou ksero einai oti akomh kai an den thn katalavo pote, den tha varetho pote na thn vlepo kai na thn ksanavlepo...
Oso gia to Lost Highway idou h ekshghsg enos filou pou asxoleitai me perierges tainies kai exei enanm idiaitero tropo skepshs:
Leei oti oi duo antres einai to idio prosopo to opoio exei katadikastei se thanato gia to egklhma pouy exei kanei kai olh h tainia einai kapoia oramata pou exei aytos thn ora pou ekteleitai sthn hlektrikh karekla...ayta ta fota pou anavosbhnoun se kapoies skhnes san astrapes symbolizoun akrivos to reyma pou ton xtypaei...
Ta symperasmata dika sas...
:)
A-P-I-S-T-E-U-T-I tainia!!
T-H-E-O-S skinothetis!
Respect 8)
symposium_lexotanil
31-12-2003, 13:02
imoun sigouros oti tha tou arese autouNOU
An arxisoun na ton goustaroun toolfans mallon tha anatheorhso..
Mh sugxeete mousiki me tainies..Diladi osoi den einai toolfans prepei na tin apokuriksoun??? To mono koino pou exei me Tool i sugkekrimeni tainia einai pws h tha ti latrepseis h tha ti misiseis. Mesi lusi kai metria entupwsi apokleietai na sou afisei... 8)
Amnesiac.
31-12-2003, 19:16
a lethal dose of opethian humor.
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:20
emena pali mou afhse metria entypwsh, latrepsa ypervolika tin laura harring (tin kastanomala), kai ola ta alla katholou.
Ara DE sarese i tainia, sarese mono h kastanomalla... :P
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:31
jag panzer
sou tin eipa twra
Jag panzer se sena re! Manoflwra! (sorry gia to "re"...) :P :P
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 20:05
koita mhn to synexiseis giati tha sou lew Jag Panzer essaei kai den tha xeis pou na kryfteis
kai ok fash (me tin kali ennoia) exei to ergo ( gia na sovareftoume), alla kai mono h yparksh tis apisteftis THEAS LAURA esvhne ta panta wiee.
htan kati san tin monica sto matrix .
apo kei kai pera to xaos dld.
Mh sugxeete mousiki me tainies..Diladi osoi den einai toolfans prepei na tin apokuriksoun??? To mono koino pou exei me Tool i sugkekrimeni tainia einai pws h tha ti latrepseis h tha ti misiseis. Mesi lusi kai metria entupwsi apokleietai na sou afisei... 8)
Epishs proteino na mh sygxeoume to humour/peiragma/malakia/call-it-what-u-will me ta ehm.. pio sovara pragmatakia.
Fysika kai oi tool me thn tainia den exoun kamia sxesh kata t'alla (isos mono to oti tha tous latrepseis h tha tous mishseis opos ayth..) :)
a lethal dose of opethian humor.
loveu :*
ego pantos oute latreyw oute misw tous tool..
aplos ksero oti KAI aytoi aplos antigrafoun...
stous anthropous pou ta akousmata toys periorizontai akomh sthn dekaetia tou 00...upomonh...
morphine
08-01-2004, 05:53
to eida prin liges wres.
Ok de mporw na pw oti sugkinh8hka. Psiloadiaforo vasika.
Amnesiac.
08-01-2004, 06:01
ego pantos oute latreyw oute misw tous tool..
aplos ksero oti KAI aytoi aplos antigrafoun...
min akousw kana eirwniko sxolio. to KSEREI.
min akousw kana eirwniko sxolio. to KSEREI...mpeee
:P
Vasika exei live aurio sto Gagarin kapoia Julee Cruise. Diavasa gia aythn oti einai h "mousa" tou Lynch. Kserei kaneis an einai ayth pou tragoudaei sto club Silencio sto Mulholland?
Ithilmir
09-01-2004, 02:35
Tou David Lynch tou skhnotheth?Giati nomizw yparxei kai enas jazzistas David Lynch.Mporei na ennoei auton. Pantws akoma kai oxi den nomizw oti einai auth.
symposium_lexotanil
09-01-2004, 19:25
xm
an les ton lynch pou einai pantremenos me tin paspala,mallon i mousa tou einai i paspala.allios prepei na eidopoiithei i gynaika na to kserei toulaxiston..
...kapoios (den thymamai poios alla gia na ton ksero tha einai egkyrh phgh...gouhougouhou..) mou eipe oti telika eprokeito gia ton mousiko ton Lynch opote malakia erothsh ekana...
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