Fantasy & Sci Fi

[ang69]

As per subject.

Προτείνετε fantasy και science fiction βιβλια, κάντε κανα ετσι σύντομο review. Ειδικά όσον αφορά τη δεύτερη κατηγορία ξέρω πολύ λίγα πράγματα και θα ήθελα να διαβάσω περισσότερα.

Όσον αφορα τα fantasy το πρόσφατο κολλημά μου είναι το A Song Of Ice And Fire του George R.R. Martin, που είναι τριλογία και όταν αγόρασα το πρώτο μέρος δεν κοίταξα να σιγουρευτώ ότι υπάρχουν και τα άλλα δυο και τώρα δεν τα βρίσκω κι έχω λυσσάξει. Υπάρχουν και σε e-books βέβαια αλλά δεν μπορώ να ευχαριστηθω διάβασμα από τον υπολογιστή ή εκτυπωμένες σελιδες. To Amazon θα μας σώσει πάλι.

[Dragonlord]

Αναφέρω τον Τόλκιν μήπως και καταφέρουμε να μην τον αναφέρουν και οι μισοί από κάτω,αν και μάλλον μάταιος κόπος είναι.Πιο πολύ μ'άρεσε από την τριλογία ο ’ρχοντας,το Χόμπιτ είναι πιο απλοϊκό ενώ το Σιλμαρίλλιον είναι χάσιμο τελείως και δεν παλεύεται με τίποτα.
Η πραγματική μου συνεισφορά στο τόπικ θα είναι το "Η κόρη του βασιλιά της χώρας των ξωτικών" του Λόρδου Ντάνσανι,από τους μεγαλύτερους εμπνευστές του Τόλκιν.Όταν το είχα διαβάσει μ'άρεσε αρκετά,αλλά καθώς έχουν περάσει 5-6 χρόνια δε θα επεκταθώ

[Ingolemo]

Silmarillion gamaei, arkei na eisai kai ligo porwmenos me Tolkien :P

Apo fantasy diavase kana tou Guy Gavriel Kay . Egw prwteinw to Tigana (2 vivlia) kai to Fionavar Tapestry (3 vivlia , polles omoiothtes me tolkien.. :/ ). Einai fantastika kai ta duo.

Apo sci fi diavase oposdhpote thn trilogia tou Gibson Neuromancer - Count Zero - Mona Liza Overdrive . O Gibson me auta ta vivlia ousiastika dhmiourgei to cyberpunk kosmo (low life, high tech). Einai epos kai ta 3.

Ayth th stigmh variemai na grapsw reviews kai tetoia...

Autaaa...

apo sci fi proteinw anepifylakta to nevromancer.. den sou kanw perigrafh ti paizei alla einai h aparxh tou cyber punk koinhmatos..

[rincewind2k]

apo sci fi proteinw anepifylakta to nevromancer...

esy 'h kvlt eisai 'h agrammatos

kai eisai kai guest

[rincewind2k]

a o freak eisai? hi freak!

[freak brother]

o freak eimoun giati me evgale guest den paizw!! :p

[The Butcher]

forum me noimosyni k ets...:P

[Dragonlord]

μαλακία δικιά μου,το ξεχνάω όταν κάνω νέο φόρουμ
πάω να το διορθώσω

[nikodimos]

An den to eleges den 8a to epairne prefa kaneis :P

Diabaste Christie Golden, exei grapsei polu kala pramata px Vampire of the Mists.

Gia na mhn anamasame kai tous idious suggrafeis sunexeia.

A kai Tolkien :D

[When Black Roses Bloom]

James Lowdel, Knight Of The Black Rose kai Spectre Of The Black Rose.

O Ingolemo me kalupse plhrws though me ton Guy Gavriel Kay kai to Tigana.

Mia kataplhktikh seira einai epishs h seira "Skotadi" Ekdoseis Osky, (dustyxws den 8umamai sugkrafeis alla mono merikous titlous) me biblia opws to "H Neraida Twn Dontiwn" kai "Ergostasio Efialtwn". Exei kai kataplhktiko artwork sta eksofula twn bibliwn, me enan asimenio daimona, h de sullektikh ekdosh (ths opoias eimai katoxos kai xunw) einai ena mauro kouti, me ton daimona na sxhmatizetai apo to sunolo twn bibliwn, sxediasmenos kommati kommati stis raxes twn bibliwn, ka8ws kai kataplhktikous selidodiktes gia ka8e biblio. Ektos apo istoria exeis kai kommatia-erga texnhs sta xeria sou. H seira apoteleitai apo 7 biblia an den kanw la8os. :twisted:

[Deggial]

Δε μου πολυαρέσει η επική φαντασία... πάντως το "I, Strahd" της Elrod είναι θεϊκό (νουβέλα Ravenloft). Πρόκειται για το ημερολόγιο του Strahd von Zarovich, πρώτου "κάτοικου" του domain of dread.

[Faithless Spirit]

o Guy Gavriel Kay pragmatika plu wraios sugrafeas kai to tigana korufeio vivlio, me para polu wraia plokh anatropes ktl

ektos aftou apo fantasy tha proteina anepifulakta apo Steven Erikson thn seira "A Tale of the malazan book of the fallen" h opia mexri stigmhs apoteleite apo 4 vivlia +1 pou bgainei se duo ebdomades (sunolika tha einai 10)
to prwto vivlio legaite "Gardens of the moon" (oi khpoi tou fegariou) kai dustixos einai to mono pou exei metafrastei mexri stigmhs alla diavazetai kai mono tou aneta giati einai ligo aneksarthtes istories metaksi tetaksi tous (ta vivlia)..
to apisteuto me ta vivlia einai h polu kalh plokh tous, oi para polles kales stigmes, oi polloi xarakthres (kamia 20aria kentrikoi se kathe vivlio), to oti den uparxoun oi klasikoi "kaloi" kai "kakoi" sthn istoria h toulaxiston oxi gia polu, kai o tromera poluplokos kai "gematos" kosmos tou erikson pou siga siga apokaliptetai..

oi upoloipoi titloi einai : deadhouse gates, memories of ice kai house of chains

[When Black Roses Bloom]

O filtatos Deggial, milise polu sofa (xlwmo proswpo :P), anaferontas to bilbio "I, Strahd: Memoires Of A Vampire", to opoio einai ontws to proswpiko hmerologio enos Arch-Vampire, tou Strahd Von Zarovic, kai pws eftase mexri to shmeio na ginei auto pou einai. H panemorfh ekdosh tou (Red paperback, me dermatodeto eswteriko kai ekswteriko lino yfasma, me xrysa grammata sto eksofulo) to kanei kataplhktiko san sullogh, (alla kai san background se alla 8emata). H synexeia tou bibliou "I Strahd: The War Against Azalin", ba8ainei perissotero to parel8on-parwn tou Vampire lord, dinontas mas na doume apo ta matia tou pws einai na eisai sthn pleyra tou "Kalou-lord-pou-prospa8ei-na-swsei-thn-tyranismenh-tou-uparksh", enantia se enan Lich King (Undead wizard to be exact) kai tis straties apo undead pou dioikei. Mia apo tis kaluteres seires fantastikou mu8istorhmatos tromou twn Times. Aksizei mia deyterh skepsh gia anagnwsh.

[MoRmEnGiL]

gia guy gavriel kay deite edw (http://members.lycos.co.uk/tolkiengrnet/devel/forum/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=80&sid=39c545ebce730ab8139698d0fb278b74) mhn ta 3anagrafw kai bariemai.
gia tolkien de milaw.apla osoi den exete epafh diabaste to lord of the rings kai an de sas aresei mhn asxolh8eite allo.

exw epishs na proteinw Robert howard (nai autos pou egrapse ta Conan) pou OXI den egrafe mono gia 2metrous gamaoua barbarous apo thn Kimeria,eixe asxolh8ei kai me cthulhu mythos kai eixe k allous hrwes. :P

Opws eipe o antmhn ths kakias wras lord dunsany einai kalh fash,alla mhn perimenete epikes sfages splateries kai ba8ious problhmatismous klpo.einai pio light at heart kai "fairy" anagnwsma toso to h korh tou basilia ths xwras twn 3wtikwn oso kai ta ypoloipa tou.Btw ektos apo basikh epirroh tou JRR tolkien,htan kai basikotath epirroh tou HP Lovecraft :P

akoma 8a proteinw Ursula Le Guinn,kyriws to mago tou arxipelagous,apisteuto biblio,afora tis peripeteies enos magou sthn geo8alassa,ena symplegma apo polla mikra nhsia.den einai toso xazofantasy oso isws akougete,einai poly ba8ytera filosofhmeno.Epishs apo Ursulla LeGuinn to aristero xeri tou skotous,kai o anarxikos twn 2 kosmwn einai must.Ta proteinw both.
kai sto idio yfos to 1984 tou george orwell,k auto must sto xwro (sci/fi me koinwniologikes kai eniote politikes proektaseis)

kai fysika Frank Herbert - Dune ta logia peritteupune.
auta pros to paron.i'll be back :P

[Deggial]

akoma 8a proteinw Ursula Le Guinn,kyriws to mago tou arxipelagous,apisteuto biblio,afora tis peripeteies enos magou sthn geo8alassa,ena symplegma apo polla mikra nhsia.den einai toso xazofantasy oso isws akougete,einai poly ba8ytera filosofhmeno.Epishs apo Ursulla LeGuinn to aristero xeri tou skotous,kai o anarxikos twn 2 kosmwn einai must.

Αυτά τα δυο τα'χει διαβάσει ο αδερφός μου και λέει επίσης πολύ καλά λόγια. Το προτιμώ που έχουν κοινωνικές επεκτάσεις και δεν είναι απλά φαντασία (π.χ. Τόλκιν). Όταν τελειώσει η εξεταστική μάλλον θα κάτσω να τα διαβάσω.

[Ithilmir]

exw epishs na proteinw Robert howard (nai autos pou egrapse ta Conan) pou OXI den egrafe mono gia 2metrous gamaoua barbarous apo thn Kimeria,eixe asxolh8ei kai me cthulhu mythos kai eixe k allous hrwes. :P

Opws eipe o antmhn ths kakias wras lord dunsany einai kalh fash,alla mhn perimenete epikes sfages splateries kai ba8ious problhmatismous klpo.einai pio light at heart kai "fairy" anagnwsma toso to h korh tou basilia ths xwras twn 3wtikwn oso kai ta ypoloipa tou.Btw ektos apo basikh epirroh tou JRR tolkien,htan kai basikotath epirroh tou HP Lovecraft
O Lovecraft htan kollhtari me ton Howard kai allhlografouse me ton Lord Dunsany( gia to deutero nomizw..) Gi' auto.

kai fysika Frank Herbert - Dune ta logia peritteupune.auta pros to paron.i'll be back
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Pantws kala ola auta pou lene kai ta paidia, alla na proteinw na arxiseis me ta vasika: Gibson gia sci-fi kai -gia mena- Kay gia fantasy.
Dhladh pare Neuromancer(Νευρομάντης) kai Tigana kai ama s'aresoun pare kai tous allous tomous kai meta.....e ksanakane kana post kai vlepoume...

[ang69]

Ενταξει. Τα βασικα τα έχω διαβάσει. Γι'αυτό έκανα και αυτό το θρετ© για να πάρω ιδέες για κάτι περισσότερο. Και πήρα μπόλικες :D

[enitharmon]

to Tigana to exw edw kai paaaaaaaaara polla xronia sta agglika, alla akoma den to exw diavasei...

[Ithilmir]

Divasto. Twra.

[MoRmEnGiL]

O Lovecraft htan kollhtari me ton Howard kai allhlografouse me ton Lord Dunsany( gia to deutero nomizw..) Gi' auto.

niah,oloi oi k8oulianoi (?!) syggrafeis ths epoxhs allhlografousane :P o machen k o dunsuny einai apo tis basikoteres epirroes tou HPL :D

[MoRmEnGiL]

Divasto. Twra.

i couldn't agree more.me to poudiabaseis auto to post,parata to net,bges,kai piase to biblio.den kanw plaka..

[Phoebus]

Gia to apolyto kapsimo se sci-fi egw na proteinw apo thn meria mou ws kammenos star wars fan opoiodhte biblio apo New Jedi Order era, bebaia milame gia seira 20+ bibliwn ayth th stigmh (eidika apo thn stigmh pou mpainoun oi Vong sto SW sympan), me koryfaio gia mena to Star By Star, grammeno apo ton Troy Denning.

To idiaitero ayths ths seiras bibliwn einai oti erxontai oi Yuuzhan Vong, oi opoioi einai kati insectoids plasmata ta opoia exoun anaptygmenh biotexnologia, h thrhskeia tous syndeetai me ton thanato twn allwn, KAI (edw einai to kalo) einai immune sth Force. Toulaxiston etsi opws thn katalabainoun oi Jedi. Koinws dhladh enas Jedi pia den exei to pleonekthma sth maxh, me to na kanei enan Vong push 'h pull mesw ths Force, 'h na tou kanei mindtricks... Oi Vong den katalabainoun xristo kai peran aytou einai kai porwmenoi fighters, koinws sfazoun aberta. Sta biblia yparxei ektos apo polles maxes kai arketo politiko skhniko, eidika me ton Luke Skywalker o opoios antimetwpizei pieseis apo pantou, apo thn New Republic na bohthhsei thn katastash, apo ton Kyp Durron (enas Jedi Knight, enas apo tous prwtous Masters sthn meta The Return of the Jedi epoxh) gia to idio pragma, enw o idios pisteyei oti o polemos me tous Vong einai lathos giati kateythinetai apo aisthima ekdikhshs, pragma pou makroprothesma odhgei sthn Dark Side... Oi anatropes einai AMETRHTES, kai telika mesw twn bibliwn synexizei na yparxei o mythos Star Wars... eytyxws dhladh, giati ama perimename apo tis tainies... Poly poly action, aneptygmenoi xarakthres, anatropes, merika pragmatika dramatika shmeia, kai epitelous mia ekselliksh s'ayto pou lene oti kai kala kanoun oi Jedi Consulars oi opoioi basikos tous skopos einai na "contemplate on the Force"...

S'osous aresoun ta Star Wars proteinw anepifylakta kai ta graphic novels, eidika twra pou trexei nea seira Jedi Quest h opoia apla ga-ma-h.

Ayta, bghka ligo off topic :P

[symposium_lexotanil]

ta star wars einai SKATA entelos.
o,tidipote exei na kanei me star wars.
eleos.
opoios aresketai se tetoia pramata exei provlima.sovaro.sovara.

/me fasistaki

[Phoebus]

Zhleyeis epeidh den eisai Jedi.

[{NightStalker}]

Emena pantws den mou arese to Tigana.Kalo to olo concept twn vivliwn alla kapou sti mesh to xalase to prama.Protimw to Yfanto tis Fionavar.Egw proteinw Terry Pratchet an thes na diavaseis kati diaskedastiko(mexri ahdias dld).Ksekina me to MORTE apo prachett kai an den to vris asteio tote exeis provlhma : D
Episis o Howard einai G-A-M-A-T-O-S kai to conan einai oreo.An thes kati POLY eksidikevmeno se fantasy pare oti vreis apo DRAGONLANCE.

[When Black Roses Bloom]

Kai epishs oti breis apo Ravenloft. Gothic Horror noubeles, (apo ekei einai kai to nick mou btw), oi opoies den einai grammenes sto "podi". James Lowdel, (an den to anefera hdh) me ta Knight Of The Black Rose, kai Spectre Of The Black Rose. :D

[MoRmEnGiL]

Emena pantws den mou arese to Tigana.

se mishsa molis twra.

[{NightStalker}]

Emena pantws den mou arese to Tigana.

se mishsa molis twra.

But I still love u babyyyy.. :pink:

[MoRmEnGiL]

:oops:

aaaww,ok :pink: :*

[DeathFairie]

den ksero an exei idi anaferthei.......pantos O Elric tou Melnibone apo Michael Moorcock einai ena masterpiece.................................................

kalos einai kai o Peter Beagle...anagnorismenos stin alli pleura tou atlantikou alla oxi toso gnostos sti xora mas.....

[Faithless Spirit]

emena pali den m'arese toso to elrik.. polu apla grammeno kai o elrik polu floros re gmt den eprepe gia auto pou einai..:)

p.s. mono ta prwta duo exo diavasei

[nikodimos]

kalos o elric alla einai mpaxalo h plhrhs istoria afou grafthke mesa se periodo 20 xronwn or sth me polla kommatia eswterika na grafontai meta apo to telos...

[Faithless Spirit]

to deutero vivlio den eixe graftei meta?

[nikodimos]

katse twra poio ennoeis ws deutero, auto pou ekdo8hke sthn Ellada ws deutero h' to deutero biblio tou M gia ton Elric? to timeline einai ligo periergo psaxto sto net na deis

[DeathFairie]

emena pali m'aresei para polu i istoria tou, giati paei enantia sto mexri tote stereotupo kai sti formula tis epituxias ton bibliwn autou tou eidous. O Moorcock dimiourgise enan astheniko, kuniko, melagxoliko kai autokatastrafiko anti - irwa se antithesi me ola ta erga tis epoxis tou. To taksidi tou Elric pros tin katastrofi tou polles fores ginetai alligoriko kai katapianete me themata pou theorountai tampou mexri ekeini ti stigmi. auto kanei to suggrafiko ergo tou Moorcock na ksexorizei apo tis sunithismenes istories irwikis fantasias.
no happy endings..
mporei to ergo tou na einai sundedemeno ligo anorthodoksa, se sxesi me to xrono suggrafis tou, alla i peripeteies tou einai monadikes kai polu pio "gloomy" an thelete apo alles tou idiou xwrou.

[Faithless Spirit]

gia to ellhniko deutero lew:P me to kastro tou margaritariou

h idea na fiaksei enan tetio xarakthra ws kentriko marese alla den mou kolhse me to backround tou katholou. Kai exei kai arketes wraies idees mesa sta vivlia (ksanalew oti den ta exw diavasei ola) alla grafei kapws "aploika" re gamoto kai me ksenerwne. tespa gia thn epoxh tou mporei na htan arketa protoporiakh h doulia tou alla exw diavasei polu kalhtera vivlia sto eidos gia na ton theoro kalo.. protoposro kai themelioth tou idous isws..

[Elfstone]

Ta agapimena mou fantasy :

Silmarillion (an goustareis mythologia genika, to Sil. einai MUST), LotR
Dragonlance Chronicles/Legends
Prince Of Lies (J. Lowder)
Iron Throne (S. Hawke)
Good Omens, Colour Of Magic, Light Fantastic (Terry Pratchett)

Apo horror :

Mountains of Madness, Case of Charles Dexter Ward, Dreams at the Witch-House (Lovecraft)
Master of Lies, The Pariah (G. Masterton)
Interview with a Vampire (Anne Rice)
Frankenstein (M. Shelley)

Apo sci-fi

Den trelainomai, mono to Dune exw diavasei, kai mallon prepei na diavasw kai to neuromancer.

[Medusa]

POY EINAI O PHILIP DICK(1928-1982)??????????????

Enas den brisketai edw poy na ton mnhmoneysei?

File moy, pare kapoio apo ta toy Philip Dick. Koryfaia ta:
1. Do Androids dream of electric sheep? (basisthke se ayto h tainia Blade Runner alla kai ta dyo einai aytotelh kai ane3Arthta meta3y tous aristourghmata(kai ennow to director

[freak brother]

diavazw to dune twra kai maresei arketa (alla malakia pou xw dei thn tainia prwta :( )

[Ithilmir]

Eytyxws egw to diavasa (to Dune) ,xwris na xw dei thn tainia kai skatopwrwthika.

Twra diavazw ta Dragonlance chronicles (eima sto 20 tomo) kai mporw na pw oti GAMANE.
Kamia sxesh me ton papara ton Salvatore.

[freak brother]

Eytyxws egw to diavasa (to Dune) ,xwris na xw dei thn tainia kai skatopwrwthika.

Twra diavazw ta Dragonlance chronicles (eima sto 20 tomo) kai mporw na pw oti GAMANE.
Kamia sxesh me ton papara ton Salvatore.
Ama sarese to dune tha trelatheis me to comix twn metavaronwn :)

[Harbinger of Death]

Τι να σας πω ρε παιδιά, εμένα το υφαντό της Φιόναβαρ με κούρασε απίστευτα. Ο Kay παραείναι καλός για να γράφει τέτοια πράγματα... Διαβάστε καλύτερα τα : Τιγκάνα (που αναφέρθηκε), Ένα τραγούδι για την Αρμπόν και (το κυριότερο) Το Σαραντινό Ψηφιδωτό. Απλά Α-Π-Ι-Σ-Τ-Ε-Υ-Τ-Ο.

Υπάρχει κι ένας έλληνας ονόματι Γιώργος Προκοπίου, που έχει γράψει μια τριλογία σε στυλ fantasy που δείχνει παιδική αλλά σε τελική ανάλυση λέει πολλά. Όνομα: Ο Ιπποτης (Οι Τρεις Φίλοι, Χώρες των Ονείρων και των Πολέμων, Ο Λωτός και ο Δράκος).

Αν σας αρέσει ο Έλρικ, έχουν μεταφραστεί στα ελληνικά και οι δύο τριλογίες του Κόρουμ, και η πρώτη του Χόκμουν.

[Ithilmir]

Τι να σας πω ρε παιδιά, εμένα το υφαντό της Φιόναβαρ με κούρασε απίστευτα. Ο Kay παραείναι καλός για να γράφει τέτοια πράγματα... Διαβάστε καλύτερα τα : Τιγκάνα (που αναφέρθηκε), Ένα τραγούδι για την Αρμπόν και (το κυριότερο) Το Σαραντινό Ψηφιδωτό. Απλά Α-Π-Ι-Σ-Τ-Ε-Υ-Τ-Ο.

Υπάρχει κι ένας έλληνας ονόματι Γιώργος Προκοπίου, που έχει γράψει μια τριλογία σε στυλ fantasy που δείχνει παιδική αλλά σε τελική ανάλυση λέει πολλά. Όνομα: Ο Ιπποτης (Οι Τρεις Φίλοι, Χώρες των Ονείρων και των Πολέμων, Ο Λωτός και ο Δράκος).

Αν σας αρέσει ο Έλρικ, έχουν μεταφραστεί στα ελληνικά και οι δύο τριλογίες του Κόρουμ, και η πρώτη του Χόκμουν.

To fionavar tapestry htan ypertath pwrwsh... AN parevlepes oles tis omoiothtes me tolkien kai silmarillion klp klp.
Kai kourastiko me tipota ... to teleiwsa se 4 meres...
Genika o Kay den exei vgalei vivlio pou na mhn einai -toulaxiston- skatopwrwsh..

[Faithless Spirit]

ontws to ufanto htan polu wraio kai me polu wraious xarakthres, se motivo tolkien vevea alla gia mena anwtero.. ntax vevea den htan kai tigana alla htan polu kalo


p.s. oi fantasy fans pou sevontai ton eauto tous na agorasoun tous kupous tou fegariou (steven erikson, ekdoseis metaixmio - www.metaixmio.gr (http://www.metaixmio.gr)) asap

[Carcass_]

Ta apolutos must einai Robert E. Howard, o opoios einai to apoluto proskunhma kai indeed ta Conan pou exei grapsei einai fa-nta-sti-ka. Foveros suggrafeas, pou exei kanei kai polu kalh douleia kai sto Cthulhu Mythos ( proteinw anepufilakta to Nameless Cults , apo ekdoseis Chaosium. Na deite kai ti eppiroes eixe o kosmos tou conan apo tous kthouliarhdes ).
Ursula Le Guin, The Earthsea Quartet, ta 3 prwta vivlia einai kataplhktika opou fenetai kai apo pou exei " klapei " h olh idea tou Harry Poter ( ta vivlia den einai se ufos harry poter ). Dusthxws ta upoloipa exoun kathodikh poreia.
Opoioi goustaroun Arthuro, polu kalos einai o Stephen Lawhead.
Apo horror, apla oti exei sxesh me ton lovecraftiano kuklo einai fantastiko, safws anwtero apo kathe stephen king wannabe ( me eksairesh ton August Derleth , pou proswpika ton vriskw xalia ).
Dragonlance Chronicles einai fantasika, apisteuta epika to the bone. KAlh einai kai h metafrash btw. Genikotera h seira Dragonlance ( Weiss / Hickmann ) exei na prosferei para polu kala deigmata epic fantasy logotexnias.
Epishs, korufaios einai o G.R.R. MArtin kai h seira tou A Song Of Ice And Fire. Osoi to exoun diavasei , oloi ( mhdenos eksairoumenou ) ton theoroun ton kalutero suggrafea pou exei vgalei mexri stigmhs h epic fantasy logotexnia. Den uparxei metafrash , mono agglika kai AN to vreite Ellada ( to fernei vevaia ana takta xronika diasthma o Eleutheroudakhs ).
Apo Sci-Fi kai cyberpunk, proswpika den kserw xristo :behead: kai den exw kamia apolutos idea :blaser: ( ektos apo ta erga tou Adams :headbang: )

Telos :
Discworld, apo terry pratchet. Ta logia einai perita.
Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, epishs ta logia einai perita.

[Ithilmir]

Epishs, korufaios einai o G.R.R. MArtin kai h seira tou A Song Of Ice And Fire. Osoi to exoun diavasei , oloi ( mhdenos eksairoumenou ) ton theoroun ton kalutero suggrafea pou exei vgalei mexri stigmhs h epic fantasy logotexnia. Den uparxei metafrash , mono agglika kai AN to vreite Ellada ( to fernei vevaia ana takta xronika diasthma o Eleutheroudakhs ).


to idio mporw na pw kai gia ton G.G .Kay.

Alla psithika gia Martin. Kai to oti einai mono agglika einai bonus. Den tha mpw ston peirasmo na to parw ellinika -opws shmera pou paraligo na parw to sarantino psifidwto ellinika ,alla eutyxws tha kanw ligh ypomonh-

BTW ,diavase ta tria vivlia Gibson -Nevromanth, Cunt Zero kai Mona lisa Overdrive- Stadar tha s'aresoun....

A..... kai mhpws thes ena loukaniko.....alla oxi ap'to stoma? :D
kai nai, ontws ,auto to nhsi einai terastio


ok ok ,to gamhsa.stamataw

[soulless9]

prepei na to diabasete!!!!!
O Amartoboros. zhthste to gamaei. ekdoseis oksy. einai thriller fantasias kai se kollaei. exei parei kai arketa brabeia.

[sereg]

Vasika olo to The Tale Of The Eternal Champion tou M.Moorcock einai gamato.

Apoteleitai apo 14 vivlia an thimamai kala. To 8o vivlio tis seiras einai to Elric of Melnibone pou aneferan merikoi ( to opoio sti seira tou periexei ola ta vivlia tou Elric pou prepei na itan 6-7)


alla grafei kapws "aploika" re gamoto kai me ksenerwne

Aploikos o Moorcock , eidika ston Elric, den tha to elega..ektos kai an diavases elliniki ekdosi pou apo oso kserw einai kapws oti nanai...


Alli kali seira fantasy/sci-fi books einai to Hyperion tou Dan Simmons pou exei parei kai polla sci-fi kai fantasy vraveia kai apoteleitai apo 4 vivlia

[Carcass_]

Ta vivlia tou Moorcock einai kala se story, alla grafei skata o anthrwpos. Dusthxws me ton tropo grafhs tou xanei polla pragmata.

[soulless9]

symfwnw apolytws me carcass exw diabasei kai se ellhnika kai se agglika. de kserei na perigrafei o moorcock. gamaei olh th mageia ths istorias.!!

[ang69]

Epishs, korufaios einai o G.R.R. MArtin kai h seira tou A Song Of Ice And Fire. Osoi to exoun diavasei , oloi ( mhdenos eksairoumenou ) ton theoroun ton kalutero suggrafea pou exei vgalei mexri stigmhs h epic fantasy logotexnia. Den uparxei metafrash , mono agglika kai AN to vreite Ellada ( to fernei vevaia ana takta xronika diasthma o Eleutheroudakhs ).


Οι πούστηδες είχαν το 1 και μετά δεν έφερναν τα υπόλοιπα κι έχω λυσσάξει λέμε γιατί κάποτε τα είχα και σε e-books -η τελευταία λύση της παρηγοριάς- και τα έχασα όταν χάλασε το πισί μου.



Πόσους μήνες έχω που γκρινιάζω γι'αυτά τα βιβλία;

[Carcass_]

exw akousei apo diafores ( iamatikes ) phges oti tha ta metafrasoun ta Martin. To ergo tha analavei h Anubis. Toualxiston prin 6 mhnes eixan parei ta vivlia tou na ta diavasoun gia na doun an aksizoun...

[ang69]

Μου το είχε πει ο White_Zombie αυτό. Δεν άκουσα περαιτέρω νέα όμως.

Τέλος πάντων πέρασα σήμερα από Ελευθερουδάκη, βρήκα τα υπόλοιπα και τα τσίμπησα και τα 3 για να μην την ξαναπατήσω. Όποιος ενδιαφέρεται να πάει έχει μείνει το 1ο και τα δύο μέρη του 3ου. Το 2ο το έχω εγώ. :P

[sereg]

Endiaferomai na diavasw tpt apo Discworld, alla otan piga sta magazia eida na iparxoun kamia 10aria-15aria vivlia....apo poio arxizoume?

Episis an kapoios mporei as perigrapsei ti paizei sto discworld san istoria ktl.

[rincewind2k]

Endiaferomai na diavasw tpt apo Discworld, alla otan piga sta magazia eida na iparxoun kamia 10aria-15aria vivlia....apo poio arxizoume?

Episis an kapoios mporei as perigrapsei ti paizei sto discworld san istoria ktl.

http://www.electricrequiem.com/viewtopi ... +pratchett (http://www.electricrequiem.com/viewtopic.php?t=466&highlight=terry+pratchett)

an kai de voithaei idiaitera opote tsekare http://www.lspace.org

se genikes grammes "discworld" einai apla enas kosmos epipedos pou pataei panw se 4 elefantes pou patane panw se mia giagntia xelwna kai periferetai sto diasthma.

twra "san istoria" den paizei kati sygkekrimeno, yparxoun mikres "ypo-seires" pou akolouthoun tis peripeteies kapiou sygkekrimenou hrwa, alla polles fores analoga me ton hrwa allazei entelws kai to yfos tou vivliou (me koino paragonta to xioumor, panta)

px to Small Gods einai mia atheistikh satira twn organwmenwn thrhskeiwn (kai tou xristianismou idiaitera), to feet of clay (kai genika ta vivlia pou anaferontai ston Captain Vimes kai thn Night Watch) einai kati san film-noir astynomikes istories topothethmenes se mia mesaiwnikh/romaikh megaloupolh, enw ta vivlia me tous magous (kai kyriws ton rincewind) einai otinanai :D

"xronika" o discworld einai entelws axtarmas, alla merh thymizoun arxaies epoxes (px ephebe=arxaia ellada, Tsort=Aigyptos) alla mesaiwna (lancre) alla to holywood (...)

ksekina me "the colour of magic" kai "the light fantastic", ta dyo prwta vivlia pou egrapse gia ton discworld o pratchett. kai diavase kai "mort" kai "small gods" kai "men at arms" gia na dies ta diaforetika settings

'h sthn telikh, dialekse ena sthn tyxh

[sereg]

theink giou :)

[cloud]

theink giou :)


kai an vreis pesmou apo pou e. egw vrhka kapia sto papasotiriou.gr, ta opoia einai ola sta agglika kai einai mh diathesima, dld erxontai se 3-4 vdomades. opote an vreis kai apo allou sfyra to.

[sereg]

Thess/niki pou eimai iparxei ena magazi sto kentro: I Agnwsti Kantath. Einai vivliopwleio apokleistika gia fantasy/ sci-fi/ RPG vivlia (exei poli prama...) kai eixe 10-15 apo discworld ( twra den koitaksa gia metafrasmena sta ellinika,mias kai den me endieferan..)

[Kveldssanger]

Μη κάνει κανείς μαλακία και τα πάρει στα ελληνικά...

[MoRmEnGiL]

same goes for other stuff..like the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy for eg..

[protonios]

Kala kaneis den exei diabasei wheel of time tpt? Apo Robert Jordan.
Pisteyo oti axizoun poly san biblia fantasy.Xekinane me to The Eye of the World kai thn seira den thn xanete :P grafoun arithmous pano :P

[Kveldssanger]

Kala kaneis den exei diabasei wheel of time tpt? Apo Robert Jordan.
Pisteyo oti axizoun poly san biblia fantasy.Xekinane me to The Eye of the World kai thn seira den thn xanete :P grafoun arithmous pano :P

Πλάκα έχουν αλλά μάλλον έχει παρατραβήξει... Το έχω παρατήσει στο 9 και βαριέμαι να διαβάσω το καινούριο...

[IceFire]

Apo Kay exw diabasei mono to Tigana, de mou arese kai ton parathsa. Opws kai o Jordan de mou poluarese mporw na pw, to kourazei. Oso gia ton Moorcock, enta3ei, exw kaei me ta biblia tou, ton latreuw. Eidika h istoria tou Erekose einai apisteuth. Olo to eternal champion saga einai polu omorfo. Sta agglika bebaia, an kai ta ellhnika kala einai. Amesws epomenos o Elrik bebaia. Perimenw na diabasw kai ta upoloipa tou (otan ta brw giati den einai ki eukolo...)

[Kain]

Και γιατί δεν ρωτάς εμένα ? Τα έχω ΟΛΑ του Moorcock. :P

[IceFire]

E de milas ki esu :P 3hghsou :P

[Ingolemo]

Apo Kay exw diabasei mono to Tigana, de mou arese kai ton parathsa. :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Faithless Spirit]

ntax o jordan den einai kai asxhmos alla polu fasaria exei ginei gia auton kai den einai kai tromeros.. ase pou to 1 propantos htan trelh kopia tou arxonta tespa to trito diavazw twra kai mallon meta tha piasw na diavasw tipote allo.. isws to a song of ice and fire afou lete oti einai toso kalo..

ante kai na ksanapw na piasetai na diavasetai kanena vivlio tou steven erikson, giati exei tromera plousia muthoplasia kai grafei gamata kai ta erga exoun tromerh plokh kai osoi ton exoun diavasei ton thewroun korufaio kai mpla mpla mpla ektos fusika an sas aresei o elric.
a to "kanena vivlio" legetai oi kupoi tou fegariou apo ekdoseis metaixmio to exoun kai kaisa kai fantasy(to eixan toulaxiston) kai solaris kai eleutheroudakhs kai oxi den pernw pososta..
ante kalhnuxta

[aggelhs_rwxamhs]

ntax o jordan den einai kai asxhmos alla polu fasaria exei ginei gia auton kai den einai kai tromeros.. ase pou to 1 propantos htan trelh kopia tou arxonta tespa to trito diavazw twra kai mallon meta tha piasw na diavasw tipote allo.. isws to a song of ice and fire afou lete oti einai toso kalo..

ante kai na ksanapw na piasetai na diavasetai kanena vivlio tou steven erikson, giati exei tromera plousia muthoplasia kai grafei gamata kai ta erga exoun tromerh plokh kai osoi ton exoun diavasei ton thewroun korufaio kai mpla mpla mpla ektos fusika an sas aresei o elric.
a to "kanena vivlio" legetai oi kupoi tou fegariou apo ekdoseis metaixmio to exoun kai kaisa kai fantasy(to eixan toulaxiston) kai solaris kai eleutheroudakhs kai oxi den pernw pososta..
ante kalhnuxta
Jordan goystarete? (Ayth me ta vyzia, oxi ton mpasketmpwlista)