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The_Emperor
10-02-2004, 09:53
Loipon o,ti kai na pw tha einai ligo...Apisteyth tainia dixws yperbolh...Monadikos skhnotheths...ta misa lefta h douleia toy...Exei "mpleksei" tis skhnes me tetoio tropo pou den mporeis na afhseis ta matia sou apo thn othonh deyterolepto afou tha xaseis ena kommati apo to pazl kai meta isws den bgazeis akrh. Tromeres skhnes, eikones san fwtografies apo ena album to opoio synthetei mia istoria dixws na xreiazetai na deis to kathe kare, tromeres allages kai apeiroi symbolismoi...
Oso gia toys ithopoious??? Ti na pw...oloi toys koryfaioi...o Sean Pen einai pleon elite...teleiwse...O anthrwpos mpainei sto petsi toy roloy toy oso den paei allo kai dinei koryfaia gia oscar ermhneia...kapou diabasa to ekshs : "poios einai fetoso koryfaios antipalos gia ton sean pen kai to mystic river sta oscar?? Ma o idios toy o eaytos"
Apisteyto dikio exei o typos pou to egrapse. Giati to 21 grams EINAI akomh - gia na mhn pw POLY - kalytero apo to mystic river. Tha mporousa na grafw gia wres gia thn tainia alla tha perioristw sto na pw oti oi istories ton 3 basikwn prwtagwnistwn pou arxika fainetai na mhn exoun emfanh sxesh periplekontai kai denontai toso moiraia kai toso tragika kai se bazoun se ena tripaki pou den se afhnei na hremhseis oute stigmh. Den tha pw tipota parapanw gia to senario giati akomh kai h idia h istoria einai meros ths mageias pou ksetyligetai siga siga kai aksizei kaneis na niwsei thn agwnia gia to pws ginontai ola
Mhn thn xasete me tipota. H kalyterh tainia pou exw dei fetos! Kai mia apo tis kalyteres edw kai polla xronia

rincewind2k
10-02-2004, 09:56
xm ayto tha to dw stantar

deite kai to amores perros pou gamaei

Raven Lord
10-02-2004, 12:01
το amores... είναι κορυφή...

marianna2525
10-02-2004, 12:43
Διάβασα πολύ καλές κριτικές για τα "21 γραμμάρια" και θέλω να το δω.
Η ερώτησή μου είναι, αν έχει άγριες σκηνές, να ξέρω δηλαδή και να προετοιμαστώ ψυχολογικά.

Raven Lord
10-02-2004, 12:49
Δεν έχω δει ταινία με το Σον Πεν που να είναι μαλακία... οπότε 8)

FIXXXER
10-02-2004, 17:10
Ego exo dei to Hurly Burly pou den einai malakia, einai anuparkti, skoupidi. Thelo ki ego na pao na do ta 21 grammaria.

The_Emperor
10-02-2004, 17:21
sxedon katholoy skhnes bias
malista o skhnotheths sxedon apofeygei na dwsei tetoies skhnes afou parousiazei ta "sklhra" gegonota me tetoio tropo wste na ta yponohsei me kapoia allh eikona
genika mou arese poly ayth h taktikh toy skonhtheth na mhn sou dinei to idio to gegonos alla na odhgei to mialo sou se ayto me "emmeses" eikones (kala mhn fantasteis kai yperboles...apolyta logika pragmata)
don't worry at all

nikodimos
10-02-2004, 18:18
ok sth lista

ante na doume ti 8a prolabw me to diabasma

enitharmon
10-02-2004, 18:51
exeis 140+ esy, de xreiazesai diavasma :P

atom_smasher
11-02-2004, 01:52
to xw sta upopsin mou .

Buddy Lackey
11-02-2004, 01:53
mazi me return of the king kai big fish ... i most anticipated tainia gia mena fetos ... akoma na tin dw , ayti tin paraskeui omws STANDARD

The Butcher
11-02-2004, 02:29
grr ayto prepei na gamaei e...

k egw thelw!

BLiTzER
11-02-2004, 02:34
Eida to trailer tou otan phga na do to (entelos adiaforo kai apisteyta vareto) Lost In Translation thn prohgoumenh vdomada kai mou fanhke toulaxiston endiaferon. Einai sth lista proteraiothtas, an kai den eimai cinefil.

Ithilmir
11-02-2004, 03:39
Loipon standar tha paw na dw to 21 grams -to paizei mono sta 2 village kai se kati alla parakmiaka cinema- .
To Amores Perros htan GIA TON POUTSO. Mono to trito meros aksize ligo.Kata t'alla anousio.
To Lost In Translation htan GAMATO. Ap'tis kaluteres tainies pou eida persi. Genika m'aresoun oi kapws arges tainies pou arazeis, den variesai ,kai aplws vlepeis mia wraia istorioula. O Bill Murray theos.Kai h Scarlett Johansson apisteuth.

Dragonlord
11-02-2004, 12:19
Ε εντάξει θεϊκό.Δύσκολα θα βγουν πολλές καλύτερες ταινίες φέτος.
Μ'άρεσε αρκετά περισσότερο από το Amores Perros (που ήταν πολύ καλό).
Το Lost In Translation ήταν η καλύτερη ταινία που είδα το 2003.
Η δεξιά ρώγα της Naomi Watts είναι τρομαχτικιά.

marianna2525
11-02-2004, 13:16
Όντως ήταν καλή ταινία, όταν τελείωσε, έτρεξα στο πλησιέστερο καλάθι απορριμάτων να πετάξω τα άπειρα χαρτομάντηλα... :cry:

enitharmon
11-02-2004, 15:30
kala krasa... to Lost In Translation vgike prin merikes vdomades edw... :roll:

freak brother
11-02-2004, 22:30
ithilmir esy eisai gia ton poutso to amores perros einai tainiara kai skhnothetika kai apo plevras senariou...

akou ekei ithilmir...poso sixainome anthrwpous me tolkien nicks arghghg

BLiTzER
11-02-2004, 23:35
Kai to Lost In Translation to vriskoun tainiara oloi oi kritikoi ki ego to theoro apeiros gia ton poutso. Den eixe to paramikro endiaferon apo thn arxh os to telos. Den eixe oute mia skhnh pou ksexorize. San egkefalografhma nekrou htan.

asimoulis
12-02-2004, 04:18
an paromoiasoume tin mousiki twn tool me to 21 grams etsi mplegemni kai otinanai pou einai alla to apotelesma gamaei kai paromoiasoume auta pou akoune oi true-metallades me ton teleutaio samurai tha katalavoume giati to hollywood kanei pipes ston poiotiko koinimatografo opos kai to paradosiako metal kanei p...
(i sinexeia dikia sas)

MoRmEnGiL
12-02-2004, 04:43
akou ekei ithilmir...poso sixainome anthrwpous me tolkien nicks arghghg

k egw sagapaw tom :moutza:
:ggrin:

BLiTzER
12-02-2004, 06:20
an paromoiasoume tin mousiki twn tool me to 21 grams etsi mplegemni kai otinanai pou einai alla to apotelesma gamaei

Mplegmenh gia nu? Giati an exeis akousei 2-3 sovara eidh mousikhs kathe allo para mplegmenh einai. Ase pou to apotelesma de gamaei whatsoever :)

asimoulis
12-02-2004, 14:06
den gamane oi tool?
kai poios gamaei?
to st.anger?
eleos...

chris_boss
12-02-2004, 14:09
ki egw ama briskw gamaw (c)

The_Emperor
12-02-2004, 17:18
mh mou gamate to topic reeeeee!!

chris_boss
12-02-2004, 17:41
oi moonspell pantws kai na broun de gamane. e3akribwmeno auto... :twisted:

BLiTzER
12-02-2004, 20:01
ER ownz \m/_

nikodimos
13-02-2004, 04:37
erxontai oi groupies

:chinchilla:

freak brother
13-02-2004, 05:48
eisouna mikros morm den hxeres..

:**

The_Emperor
13-02-2004, 09:13
oi moonspell pantws kai na broun de gamane. e3akribwmeno auto... :twisted:

tha arxiso na sbhnw posts!! :twisted: :P

VirusXI
13-02-2004, 09:57
:!: wpa re Συντονιστή =P

chris_boss
13-02-2004, 12:29
[quote="chris_boss":sxmn8r8l]oi moonspell pantws kai na broun de gamane. e3akribwmeno auto... :twisted:

tha arxiso na sbhnw posts!! :twisted: :P[/quote:sxmn8r8l]
oute mia ali8eia den mporoume na poume pia? rwta buddy, niko, alaiah!

The_Emperor
13-02-2004, 15:36
oi 2 teleytaioi einai gay ki epeidh den toys kathisan oi moonspell bgazoun brwmes pros ta eksw!
nevermores are gays!!
.-
:twisted:

chris_boss
13-02-2004, 17:51
plus they are gay
(pou einai o amnesiac re?)

Buddy Lackey
15-02-2004, 04:46
apla sygklonistiko
koryfi twn 3wn ermhneytika i naomi imo
xalara sta pio entona synaisthimatika films pou exw dei, sou pianotane i psyxi synexeia
ola ta lefta i trelli skinothesia, kai genika oti eipe o emperor eis ston kyvo, kalyterh tainia tis saizon mexri stigmhs.

Inside Charmer
16-02-2004, 00:21
Βλακείες.

cancer
16-02-2004, 20:42
arxizo kai tompao poly auton. katarriptei tous ymnous 3 selidwn me ena aplo "Βλακείες". :D
g

Inside Charmer
16-02-2004, 21:58
Aπλώς διαβάζω Buk.

symposium_lexotanil
16-02-2004, 22:15
aplws eisai enas kathysterimenos dikigoriskos

katwrimos
20-02-2004, 01:44
to ida ki ego simera kai mu arese.
ME TIPOTA omos kalitero tou mystic river

Buddy Lackey
20-02-2004, 03:03
to da gia deyterh fora kai proskinisa pali, theiko psyxoplakoma

VirusXI
20-02-2004, 03:16
DOOMia \m/

The Butcher
20-02-2004, 03:44
to ida ki ego simera kai mu arese.
ME TIPOTA omos kalitero tou mystic river
a na, to mystic river ithela na dw apo prosfates tainies..

kala kalytero ap'ayto edw apokleietai na einai...
to 21 grams itan i kalyteri tainia pou exw dei edw kai de kserw k egw poso kairo- ntaksei mono to dogville tha synekrina mazi tou, as poume sta idia epipeda...

1. senario opws prepei (na sou gamaei tin psyxi dld)
2. skinothesia zoriki pou den afinei perithwria
3. ermineies s-y-g-l-o-n-i-s-t-i-k-e-s apla.

kai polla alla pou de grafontai

opoiou den tou aresei einai gay.-

katwrimos
20-02-2004, 13:57
Diafono, ontos i skinothesia einai apsogi kai oi erminies siglonistikes.

To mystic river einai sigoura anotero, giati ektos apo apsoges erminies kai poly kali skinothesia (an kai kapos pio anamenomeni) exei kai iperoxo senario.

:spoiler:

To senario tou 21 grams einai adiaforo. Sta prota 4/5 tis tainias tha mporuse na einai senario tou kalimera zoi. Vevaia apo to simio pu i naomi anakaliptei oti einai eggios ta panta stin tainia gamane!!! Alla mexri tote, i tainia sozetai apoklistika apo tis erminies kai ti foveri skinothesia.

Gia ta prosopika mu gusta mystic river pernei 9 kai 21 grams pernei 8

rincewind2k
20-02-2004, 17:18
spoilers gamw to xristo sas

asimoulis
20-02-2004, 20:44
Sta prota 4/5 tis tainias tha mporuse na einai senario tou kalimera zoi.

haha to gamises ligo alla plaka plaka...
alla mono senariaka ennoeitai i mallon to pio geniko senario i idea...

Dimitra
22-02-2004, 18:07
Tin eida xtes. Einai ontws polu kali tainia me tin ennoia oti se kanei na skeftesai katholi ti diarkeia kai gi'auto se krataei me kommeni tin anasa sto megalutero meros (mexri to telos pou arxizeis kai pianeis to noima). Einai sigoura tainia pou thathela na ksanadw deuteri fora, pio xalara pleon kai gnwrizontas to story alla den kserw an thathela na tin ksanadw triti fora. An den itan etsi..kommatiasmeni tha itan apla ena polu kalo drama pou se tromokratei kuriolektika me tin kunikotita kai to realismo tou. Oi ermineies toso tou - ennoeitai tromerou - Sean Penn oso kai tis Naomi Watts para polu kales kai realistikotates, enw idiaiteri entupwsi mou ekane o rolos tou Benicio Del Toro, o opoios mallon exei upobathmistei apo tous allous duo prwtagwnistes, kathws den akouw pouthena na anaferetai tpt giauton. Ante na doume kai to Mystic River na sugkrinoume...

Buddy Lackey
23-02-2004, 05:54
peri ermhneiwn sto ergo
watts > del toro> penn

katwrimos
23-02-2004, 13:54
peri ermhneiwn sto ergo
watts > del toro> penn

akrivos

Dragonlord
27-03-2004, 12:14
KAI GAMW TIS TAINIES...

KAI GAMW, GAMW TO MOYNI MOY.

OPWSDHPOTE RE. BREITE THN KAI DEITE THN. TRELLH.

PAZUZU

PS. Mporei na mh sas katatopisa kai polu alla einai kaula xaxaxaxa
:D

Jeditraitor
31-03-2004, 12:43
auto mipos pigaine gia to post of the day?


H tainia htan kataplhktikh, an kai tha lega oti
watts>penn=del toro

KATA TI GNOMI MOU :P

Dragonlord
31-03-2004, 14:21
auto mipos pigaine gia to post of the day?
Μπα
ο Νήντλφηστ έκανε νέο τόπικ γιατί δεν είχε δει το παλιό,και καθώς δεν έχουμε μερτζ στο πιεητσπιμπιμπί,έσβησα το δικό του και έκανα εδώ κουότ το ποστ του.

σπαστικό το να γράφεις αγγλικά έτσι ε

αλλά πιο σπαστικό το να πατάς αλτ+σηφτ κάθε δεύτερη λέξη

morgana
01-04-2004, 16:19
apisteytes ermineies ontws..

poly psixoplakoma omws re paidi mou... dil meta me eixe piasei katathlipsi... pragmatika eniosa oti egw ta zousa ola ayta..

alla ayto de simainei oti den einai gamw tis tainies..

kai fisika.. KAMIA SXESH ME TO MYSTIC RIVER..
to river itan mia poly wraia astinomiki peripeteia kiriws...
o penn itan klaseis anwteros sto 21 gram.

ayta kai apo mena :)

Jeditraitor
04-04-2004, 00:13
auto mipos pigaine gia to post of the day?
Μπα
ο Νήντλφηστ έκανε νέο τόπικ γιατί δεν είχε δει το παλιό,και καθώς δεν έχουμε μερτζ στο πιεητσπιμπιμπί,έσβησα το δικό του και έκανα εδώ κουότ το ποστ του.

σπαστικό το να γράφεις αγγλικά έτσι ε

αλλά πιο σπαστικό το να πατάς αλτ+σηφτ κάθε δεύτερη λέξη



:shock: ekana mish wra na diavasw to post sou...:P
greeklish kai pali greeklish!!

ManWhoSoldTheWorld
08-12-2004, 02:40
gamati pragmatika.
de perimena oti tha einai toso kali
o kakomoiris o del toro..ton lipithika. i tragikoteri morfi tis tainias.

Buddy Lackey
08-12-2004, 08:51
i tragikoteri morfh tis tainias einai o xarakthras pou ypodyetai i naomi watts
apla think about it

Deggial
08-12-2004, 14:59
o penn itan klaseis anwteros sto 21 gram.


Χμμμ... δε θα το έλεγα, μάλλον στο Mystic River ταν καλύτερος.

Ithilmir
08-12-2004, 15:10
Χμμ ..φαίνεται οτι μόνο εμένα δεν μου κανε ιδιαίτερη εντύπωση η ταινία.Δηλαδή ,οκ πολύ καλή κλπ κλπ ,αλλά όχι και τίποτα το συγκλονιστικό. Α, και το Mystic River -εκτός από 100 φορές καλύτερο- έχει και πολύ καλύτερη ερμηνεία Penn. Και γαμάει.100 φορές.

Dragonlord
08-12-2004, 15:55
Όχι.

katwrimos
08-12-2004, 16:08
Nai

SIXAMENOS
08-12-2004, 16:38
Nai

ithilmir kairos na anatheoriseis e?

Ithilmir
08-12-2004, 16:46
Nai

ithilmir kairos na anatheoriseis e?
χεχεχεχ .. όχι. Απλά καιρός να ξαναδώ την ταινία. Την έχω κιόλας.

Solo Carriera
08-12-2004, 16:54
δείτε το amores perros.

Ithilmir
08-12-2004, 17:15
δείτε το amores perros.
ένα ακόμα παράδειγμα ταινίας που δε μου άρεσε και πολύ , ενώ όλοι λένε πόσο γαμάτη είναι. Λέτε να φταίει ο Inaritu ?

SIXAMENOS
08-12-2004, 17:25
i to kako sou gousto? :P