Help me to PC..

[{NightStalker}]

Eixa provlhma stin ekkinish paixnidiwn afou mu evgaze to minima ''Ena aparaitito arxeio to DDRAW.DLL den vrethike.''Nomizontas oti kati exei gamithei me to DirectX apofasizw na valw to 8.1 apo ena cd pou vrika.Arxisan ta perierga.Me to pou kanw restart kai ksekina to pc mou vgazei ena karo messages oti leipoun .DLL k molis paw na anoiksw tin pleiopsifia twn programs mou vgazei to akoloutho minima :''Ena aparaitito arxeio .DLL,to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\OLEAUT32.DLL den vrethike'' k meta:''Den einai dinaton na vrethei to arxeio C:\program files\blah blah kai oi aparetites vivliothikes tou klp.''
Ok,me kapoio tropo to install tou DirectX gamise ta dll apo to pc.Ypothetw pws mporw na vrw ena cd windows kai na egatastisw ayta pou leipoun..H mipws oxi? :shock:
Elpizw na apofygw to format..HELP ME!

[symposium_lexotanil]

format format

[{NightStalker}]

''Shut your fuckin' face unclefucker..'' :twisted:

[rincewind2k]

e kane prwta mia epanegkatastash kai des ti ginetai nte! logika tha doulepsei alla eksartatai kai apo to ti malakia paixthke.

mono frontise to cd twn windiws pou tha "vreis" na einai idia ekdosh me ayth pou exeis

[Deggial]

Ποιά Windows έχεις;

[{NightStalker}]

Win98 Second Edition..Drama h katastash.Den mporw na akousw oute mp3 oute na anoiksw to ai ar si..Apo vdomada tha daneistw to cd apo ta win kai tha prospathisw na ti diorthwsw ti douleia.De thelw na skeftomai ti tha ginei an den ta kataferw.. :(

[The Butcher]

eixa k egw anekathen provlima me ta grafika k ta windows. exw tin entypwsi oti ftaiei i karta grafikwn mou, i mallon oi drivers pou mou'xoun dwsei pou den einai symvatoi me windows xp pou exw. katevassa k kati allous apo ton net alla oxi oti ola pane kala.

stin parousa fasi as poume, xwris kapoio logo, de mou paizei kanena paixnidi. goustarw!

[rockavlon]

@ stalker - kane setup apo dos - panw sth n eggatasta pou exeis
@ butcher - petakse thn nvidia kai pare mia ATI !!!

[The Butcher]

@ butcher - petakse thn nvidia kai pare mia ATI !!!
grrr den eprepe na to peis.
eimai pou eimai gia kainourio dvd, thelw k nea karta?! :evil:

na pa na gamithoun ta kwlomixanimata. na gamithei i texnologia.

kai to internet.

:roll:

[Kain]

kai to er gamietai :roll:

[BLiTzER]

Nvidia rulez ATI kolarakia.

[rockavlon]

alla lene ta reviews metalliko filaraki...

kai sthn praksh genika ths rixnei st autia ...
ase pou thn atithn exw 1,5 xrono kai i nvidia eftase paromoies taxythtes molis prin miso...

kai epetai kai synexeia. h ati tha bgalei thn 420 ena mhna prin...

[BLiTzER]

Kai oi AMD einai kata genikh omologia grhgoroteroi apo tous Intel, alla kai pali den allazo tous teleytaious. Eimai synaisthimatika demenos :P

[cloud]

[zER]Nvidia rulez ATI kolarakia.


Blizer katholou epanastath ths texnologias den se vrisw. Eisai fan ths microsoft. ths Nvidia(megalh htta exei faei teleytaia) kai -akouson akouson- ths intel. Eimai to akrivws antitheto apo sena. Tespa, egw den se krinw twra, esy xaneis. :P

[BLiTzER]

Haha.. ontos eimai kapos.. ehm.. "volemenos".

H Microsoft, pera apo to kraksimo pou troei, einai terastia etaireia kai exei prosferei POLLA sto xoro. Sxedon oti proion vgazei, eite hardware, eite software, einai eggyhsh.

H NVidia ki an exei prosferei sto xoro. Pairno kartes ths apo thn epoxh ths Viper V330 (xalara H koryfh sthn epoxh ths) kai eimai apolyta eyxaristhmenos. To idio kai gia thn Intel. Me exoun kerdisei ola ayta ta xronia, me exoun vgalei asproprosopo.. de vrisko kanena apolytos logo na allakso. Gia na kerdiso 5 fps h 10 euro? Protimo kati dokimasmeno kai aksiopisto.

[rockavlon]

re i ati einai rocksteady .. kai fast.
thn 330 epeidh thn eixa i voodoo 1 thn patage pantou ektos apo to motoracer pou itan isaxies - giauto kai phra voodoo tote epeidh eklega ta lefta mou me th bourouxa ths nvidia.

[BLiTzER]

H voodoo 1 den htan stand-alone. Eprepe na eixes hdh 2D karta grafikon kai h voodoo apla analamvane ta 3D. Kai h voodoo 2 nomizo ekane akrivos to idio. Apo thn 3 kai meta eginan kartes grafikon (apo aploi 3D epitaxyntes). H V330 htan mia genia mprosta stis 2D/3D kartes.

[rockavlon]

so ? h V1 patouse thn v330 katw... tespa.

fast forward to today. H ATI einai BASILIAS

[BLiTzER]

So h V1 eixe 4MB mnhmh gia ta 3D grafika + thn hdh yparxousa karta grafikon (me th dikh ths mnhmh kai GPU) gia ta 2D grafika, eno h 330 me 4MB mnhmh ekane ta panta. De nomizo oti yparxei sygkrish.

NVidia re mouniaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

[cloud]

[zER]Haha.. ontos eimai kapos.. ehm.. "volemenos".

H Microsoft, pera apo to kraksimo pou troei, einai terastia etaireia kai exei prosferei POLLA sto xoro. Sxedon oti proion vgazei, eite hardware, eite software, einai eggyhsh.

H NVidia ki an exei prosferei sto xoro. Pairno kartes ths apo thn epoxh ths Viper V330 (xalara H koryfh sthn epoxh ths) kai eimai apolyta eyxaristhmenos. To idio kai gia thn Intel. Me exoun kerdisei ola ayta ta xronia, me exoun vgalei asproprosopo.. de vrisko kanena apolytos logo na allakso. Gia na kerdiso 5 fps h 10 euro? Protimo kati dokimasmeno kai aksiopisto.



Ekeino to teleytaio "dokimasmeno kai aksiopisto" to perimena pws tha to eleges. Ayth akrivws einai h diafora mas. Egw koitaw epidoseis, an aytes einai ikanopoihtikes, den pa na nai ellhnikh etairia, tha to agorasw to proion gia na thn sthriksw. Wstoso omws den stekei ayto pou les peri ATi kai AMD, kathws kai oi dyo einai akrws aksiopistes. Kai pws tha mporousan na mhn htan, thn stigmh pou vriskontai kai oi dyo perissotero kairo ston xwro apo tis Nvidia kai intel antistoixa. Oi perissoteroi vevaia den gnwrizoun oti h amd evgale prwth tous x86, argotera kapoia stelexh ths etairia efygan gia na sxhmatisoun thn intel, kai etsi thewroun thn intel ws prwtoporo (oxi adika pantws ws ena shmeio). Apo thn allh, stis kartes grafikwn thn epanastash efere vevaia h 3Dfx pou prwth eishgage 3d accelerator. Ola ayta ta grafw giati variemai, shzythsh na ginetai. Thn nvidia pantws an thes thn gnwmh mou, tha thn xasoume se merika xronia an den allaksei dramatika thn strthgikh ths. To oti kratietai akomh, ofeiletai sto oti einai isxyrh, alliws tha eixe pathei ta idia me thn 3dfx (pou an den ksereis thn istoria ths, einai gia polla gelia!). Hdh h microsoft, to divx kai pantos eidous site kai periodika sthrizoun safws thn ATi pou teienei na ginei to neo katesthmeno.

[BLiTzER]

Wstoso omws den stekei ayto pou les peri ATi kai AMD, kathws kai oi dyo einai akrws aksiopistes.

De diafono, alla exo dokimasei ta proionta pou xrhsimopoio kai eimai akros eyxaristhmenos. Giati na "diakindyneyso" na paro kati allo?

AMD de tha pairna pote, giati de mou gemizoun to mati (an einai aksiologoi h oxi einai allo thema). Toso logo gnoston provlhmaton yperthermanshs oso kai asymvatothtas (toulaxiston sta matia mou). Protimo ta pio fthna montela ths Intel (vlepe Celeron).

H NV de nomizo oti tha antimetopisei kanena provlhma an thes th gnomh mou. Apla mexri prosfata den eixe kanenan apolytos antagonisth kai de xreiasthke pote na ftasei ta chipsets ths sta oria. Thymasai ti epidoseis eixan oi teleytaies kartes ths prin anagkastei na vgalei tous Detonator drivers logo ATI? Des ti epidoseis exoun oi idies akrivos kartes me mia aplh allagh drivers kai tha katalaveis ti ennoo. Apla tora paleyoun kai oi 2 gia thn protia kai exei plaka.

[cloud]

Gia thn AMD kai thn yperthermansh exeis meinei ligo pisw. Epishs o celeron kamia sxesh den exei me athlon. px o dikos mou 1800+ (1541 MHz) trwei aneta ton Celeron sta 2.6. Einai thema arxitektonikhs. Vevaia sta shmeia trwei kai ton P4 2.4 opws me plhroforei to Sandra. Ase pou enas filos mou me mia epox mobo kai kalh psyksh tou exei gamisei thn mana sto overclocking(ayto epeidh akougetai oti den kanoun kalo overclocking oi amd).


Gia thn ATi to provhma ths gia xronia htan oi drivers. Apo thn stigmh pou evgale tous catalysts kai apofasise na tous veltiwnei kathe mhna, anevhke ston throno.

[BLiTzER]

Gia thn AMD kai thn yperthermansh exeis meinei ligo pisw.

Ksero oti exoun allaksei arketa ta pragmata gi'ayto eipa "sta dika mou matia". Mou xei katsei tora kai den allazo.


Epishs o celeron kamia sxesh den exei me athlon. px o dikos mou 1800+ (1541 MHz) trwei aneta ton Celeron sta 2.6. Einai thema arxitektonikhs.

Oi Celeron safestata einai oi fthnes CPU ths Intel (mikrotero FSB, L2 cache, ktl) kai de mporeis na tous sygkrineis me tous kyrious epeksergastes ths AMD. Kai pali den pisteyo oti enas AMD 1800+ exei ton C2600 sthn praksh. Anyway ksefygame. Ftiakse ena thread AMD vs Intel ;P

[cloud]

[zER] Ftiakse ena thread AMD vs Intel ;P


E twra ta eipame ola :P Eksallou den fainetai na endiaferetai kaneis allos.

[symposium_lexotanil]

xm afou i kouventa pige (kai) stis kartes grafikon kapoia stigmi as min anoikso neo topik.
den exo karta grafikon (ektos apo tin built in tis motherboard) kathws den paizo paixnidia ktl oute mou xreiazetai genika.alla psinomai na paro tora gia na paizo to kainourgio prince of persia (sands of time).
proteinete kati (sxetika) ftino kai aksiopisto plz.

[Deggial]

ati Radeon 9600 Pro με 150 ευρώ (+Φ.Π.Α.).

[symposium_lexotanil]

auto einai to minimum : NVIDIA GeForce 3 or higher (excluding NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX), ATI Radeon 8500 or higher

kai auto to recommended : NVIDIA GeForce 4 or ATI Radeon 9500

opote ok fantazomai

[cloud]

H radeon pou proteine o Deggial einai poly kalh, alla an thes mia pio fthnh tha sou proteina thn radeon 9600 SE ths ASUS, thn poulaei mono to plaisio peripou 100 euro, kai exei ligo xamhloteres apidoseis apo thn proanafertheisa. An thes kati akomh pio fthno, tha kaneis douleia kai me thn Radeon 9200. Isws malista afou thn thes gia ena kai mono paixnidi na einai h kalyterh lysh.

[BLiTzER]

Ok merikes "fthnes" NVidia kartes.

GF4 Ti4200 64MB DDR: Prohgoumenhs genias, alla exei xalara ta mikrotera FX montela kai shkonei mpoliko overclocking. To mono meion ths einai oti den yposthrizei DX9. Protimhse me ta 64 MB kathos exei pio grhgorh mnhmh kai apodidei kalytera se analyseis mexri 1024x768 (den exo xrhsimopoihsei pote mou ypshloterh). Logika tha th vreis pamfthna, mia kai prohgoumenhs genias, alla mallon tha protimhseis kati neotero :P Ego thn eixa parei 180e prin ena xrono (kapou ekei protokykloforhse).

GF FX5700 Ultra 128MB DDR: An se pairnoun ta lefta sou (prepei na exei gyro sta 200e). Poly kalh kai yposthrizei DX9 gia neotera games. An kai de nomizo oti exoun vgei polla pou ekmetalleyontai to DX9 plhros, alla tespa. Gia na katalaveis pou vrisketai peripou me tis ATI, antagonizetai sta isa thn Radeon 9600XT.

[cloud]

Ela re vgainei akomh h 4200? Apokleietai, to poly kamia 4400(kses aytes me to 8x AGP.)

[cloud]

[zER]Gia na katalaveis pou vrisketai peripou me tis ATI, antagonizetai sta isa thn Radeon 9600XT.


Me to FSAA sto 4x ti ginetai omws? :roll:















nai eimai fanATIc :P

[BLiTzER]

Kala einai gnosto oti oi DirectX den einai to atou ths NV, an kai pisteyo eythynontai eks'oloklhrou oi drivers gi'ayto kai mporei na diorthothei. H ATI apodidei kalytera se DX games me full detail kai xeirotera se OpenGL games. Antikeimenika tha protimousa mia karta gia DX games, alla de thelo na to paradexto giati eimai NV fan. Epishs, skeftomai sovara h epomenh karta mou na einai ATI :P

EDIT: De nomizo na vgainei akoma h Ti4200, alla an psakseis ligo vriskeis. Px ego poulao th dikh mou :P

[cloud]

[zER] skeftomai sovara h epomenh karta mou na einai ATI :P


better late than never :P

[BLiTzER]

Vasika skeftomai kyrios to thema symvatothtas. Ksero oti h NV den yparxei periptosh na pesei sthn pagida. Alla phran 2 filarakia mia ATI (o kathenas) edo kai tha do pos paei. (Phran montelo 500e vevaia alla den exei na kanei).

[Phoenix]

:idea:
Dio periptoseis.

1)Gamithike h directX(to minima lathous htan sthn directdraw).Opote trexeis to dxdiag kai vlepeis ti exei gamithei akrivws.Den kserw poia directx exeis omos mhn prospatheis pote na valeis palaiwterh ekdosi kathws den ipostirizoun downgrade kai sou kanei to susthma koulouvaxata.

2)Gamithikan genika arxeia sistimatos apo io(Drivers ths kartas grafikwn einai to prwto pou borei na mou erthei sto mialo).An meta to scan vreis oti den exeis ious aplws uninstall drives kai reinstall.

Kai fisika iparxei kai h esxati lisi to format...

[cloud]

Ti akrivws ennoeis thema symvatothtas? Pantws dyo filoi mou ki egw exoume radeon panw apo dyo xronia (epoxh Radeon 64-h prwth radeon) kai den antimetwpisame kanena provlhma.

[BLiTzER]

Ennoo sygkekrimena (mikra tis perissoteres fores) provlhmata me games, efarmoges, otidhpote. Tespa shmera ola lynontai me patches. Eidika apo th stigmh pou h ATI exei ftasei pleon ekei pou exei ftasei (kai exei parei toses etaireies sto pleyro ths) de nomizo na exei provlhma se tetoia themata. Ayta :)

[cloud]

Provlhmata se games eixa synanthsei mono sto pro evolution 3, ta opoia eytyxws lythikan me driver update...Genika einai se poly kalo epipedo oi drivers ths ATi pleon...

[Deggial]

Εδώ και 2 χρόνια, έχω Radeon 8500 και ακόμα δε σκέφτομαι να την αλλάξω. Πέρα απ'τα θέματα ταχύτητας, η ποιότητα της εικόνας και η ζωντάνια των χρωμάτων (σε αντίθεση με τις κάρτες της nVidia) είναι πολύ πολύ πολύ ανώτερα.

[cloud]

η ποιότητα της εικόνας και η ζωντάνια των χρωμάτων .


se ayto vasika den paizei rolo to chip (R250 px pou exei h dikia sou) alla h ylopoihsh. An pareis dld mia built by ATi tha gamaei, antitheta me mia manli px ki as exei to idio chip.