AVP: Alien vs. Predator (2004)

[FIXXXER]

Lioste. Ego pantos liono.

Official Site: http://www.avp-movie.com/
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Me poion eiste? Ego me Predator.
Sorry gia to megethos, eprepe na ta valo dipla dipla giati gamane.

[enitharmon]

mono se paixnidi to kserw...

[StationEleven]

gigger en drash

[MoRmEnGiL]

:dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick: :dick:


xynw k mono sthn idea...:D

[rincewind2k]

malakia thanai. gkaranti.

kai o giger then exei sxesh me thn en logw tainia, dystyxws.

[FIXXXER]

Giati stis alles tainies diladi ti ekane... autos sxediase ta terata kai etsi tha einai kai se autin tin tainia...

[Carcass_]

Vasika , an vgei opws htan sto comic ths Dark Horse , tha gamaei manes kai oikogenies ( alla dusthxws den tha ginei etsi ). Kai, dusthxws thn vgazei o malakas pou skhnothethse to kserasma pou legetai Resident Evil.
Makari , pragmatika na vgei gamhsterh h tainia kai na pame oloi kai na lerwsoume ta kathismata twn mprostinwn mas.

To oti den exei sxesh o Gigger, den paizei megalo rolo. Oute sto Alien 4 htan o Gigger alla ta Alien mia xara htane ( kai mporei to teleutaio Alien-human na htan skata kai malakia, alla na kserete oti auto htan to arxiko sxedio tou Gigger gia ta Aliens ).

[Carcass_]

Kai fusika, eimaste me tous Predators.

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Eida to teaser , gamhse. G.
Toulaxiston ta koustoumia den exoun allaksei \m/

[When Black Roses Bloom]

Predators xunoun sto mati twn Aliens. Kai malista sto comic, gamousan kai edernan. Enas predator katebaze xalara kamia 15aria aliens me gumna xeria (wrist-blades, spears, klp) prin ton skotwsoun. EKSEPRMATWSH TWRA. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[MoRmEnGiL]

niaaah,k egw predator fan eimai,alla spernoune ta alienz as well :D
to be excact:goustarw taalienz alla ws ex8rous se mia taineia,ws kati apex8es,ws kati apaisio,pws na to pw:P enw oi predators einai apla GAMW :D

[Carcass_]

Ksethapsa to topic .
Loipon , sto :

http://www.avp-movie.com/us/html/trailersvideos.html

mporeite na vreite to teaser trailer , to internet exclusive trailer kai to APISTUETA EPIKO internet exclusive preview. Prin arxisete na lete pipes tou stul " standar tha einia malakia kai mhden " mphte ston kopo na deite ta 2 teleutaia pou anefera giati gamane.

Epishs , sto idio url mporeite na vreite 3 video : ena me behind the scenes opou leei olo to story, ena making of the monsters kai ena me to cast and characters. Ola einai gg.

Se osous aresoun ta 3 prwta Alien kai ta 2 Predator, tha goustarei sigoura kai auto.

[silencerius]

o re pousti mou thimizei starcraft

zerg (aliens)
protoss (pretadors)
terran (humans)

pooooooooooooooooooopopopoppoo kaula

[Carcass_]

Vrhka to trailer pou tha deiksoun stis aithouses ligo prin vgei h tainia.
Mporeite na to deite edw :

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/trailer/

[angel's decay]

Kai, dusthxws thn vgazei o malakas pou skhnothethse to kserasma pou legetai Resident Evil.
Makari , pragmatika na vgei gamhsterh h tainia kai na pame oloi kai na lerwsoume ta kathismata twn mprostinwn mas.


thn bgazei aytos? :shock: gmst

as exei kala effects toylaxiston... alla...

[Carcass_]

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[Ethir]

Den ksero ego to fovamai ligo to ergo gia to ti tha einai...Kai vriskomai se apistefto dilima an tha prepei na fao 7 evro gia na tin do afti tin tainia.

[Kingdom Gone]

o re pousti mou thimizei starcraft

zerg (aliens)
protoss (pretadors)
terran (humans)


Ε, μάλλον από κει κλέψαν την ιδέα οι δημιουργοί του τελευταίου. Αρα το Starcraft σου θυμίζει A.vsP. Protoss ρε μουνια!

[wraithmare]

o re pousti mou thimizei starcraft

zerg (aliens)
protoss (pretadors)
terran (humans)


Ε, μάλλον από κει κλέψαν την ιδέα οι δημιουργοί του τελευταίου. Αρα το Starcraft σου θυμίζει A.vsP. Protoss ρε μουνια!


SERVE THE HIVE RE MOUNIA

[Carcass_]

Vasika opoios kserei kai perimenei ti paei na dei, den tha vgei apogohteuemnos. Sunithws gia auto " kleei o kosmos ta leftakia tou" ( apo tis pio hlithies ekfraseis pou exw akousei, deixnei telika poso xazos einai o kosmos ), giati allo THELEI na paei na dei kai allo vlepei telika.
Gia olous tous fans predator kai aliens, h tainia tha einia arketa kalh ( fans twn Alien apo 3 kai katw ). Gia upoloipous, an den goustarete drash, efe kai genikotera to klima tou 2ou Alien, me katharo senario predator ( h an den goustarete kai to comic ) , uparxoun kai alla erga opws to punisher, spiderman 2 klp klp.

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[MoRmEnGiL]

skasmoa,kai mpazo nanai egw 8a panath dw.einai alien kai einai predator kai auta. .- btw h ypo8esh akousa oti einai oti ginete ena expedition sthn antarktikh kai oi expeditionists (? :P) peftoun pane se tsampoukades mias alien hive me 5 nearous predators :P

[Carcass_]

Vasika einia all time classics senario predator. Prin arketes xiliades xronia oi preds mazi me ithageneis ths ekei perioxhs ftiaxnoun mia puramida. H puramida xrhsimopoiite ws test , opou kathe toso 5 nearoi preds skane kai sfazoun aliens. An epiviwsoun , ginontai adults kai mpenoun sto pred clan. Mexri pou prin 3000 xronia 3 preds ton pinoune asxhma kai me energopoioun ton autokatastrofiko mhxanismo kai ola thavontai ( etsi ksekinaei kai h tainia ). Meta apo 3000 xronia, oi anthrwpoi kanoun ena expedition ( to opoio to upokinei kai to xrhmatodotei h Weyland Yutani - nai , h Etairia apo ola ta Alien me proedro ton bishop - anthrwpo ) sthn antarktikh gia na vrtoun mia puramida thamenei katw apo to xioni... tautoxrona nearoi preds vriskontai sto diasthmoploio tous kai eksetazoun ton oplismo tous... G

[MoRmEnGiL]

:headbang: :headbang2: :dfinger: :malakia: :dick: :worship:

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Giati stis alles tainies diladi ti ekane... autos sxediase ta terata kai etsi tha einai kai se autin tin tainia...

Gia to prwto Alien o Giger ixe zitisei na min anaferthei to onoma tou sta Credits epidi den tou arese opos ixan ylopoisi ta sxedia tou gia ta terata. Ta arxikia tou sxedia ixan 8eorithei poly extreme :D

[Carcass_]

Stefane, ta arxika tou sxedia mono extreme den htane. To arxiko sxedio tou Gigger gia ta Aliens einai auth h malakia pou emfanizetai sto telos tou 4 ( Anthrwpos - Alien , alla pros to anthrwpos ).

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mmm ok, en poly 8umomoun :P

[FIXXXER]

Stefane, ta arxika tou sxedia mono extreme den htane. To arxiko sxedio tou Gigger gia ta Aliens einai auth h malakia pou emfanizetai sto telos tou 4 ( Anthrwpos - Alien , alla pros to anthrwpos ).

Giati malakia?! Epeidi den tairiazei me ta "kathieromena" Aliens?

[MoRmEnGiL]

e well,oute emena marese idiaitera to alien breed auto.. :|

[FIXXXER]

Htan polu arrosto omos. :D

[When Black Roses Bloom]

Yeah!!! BIOVORES KAI BIOMECHANOIDES MOUNAKIAAAAAAAA!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[FIXXXER]

Gamo to spiti tous koloetairiesdianomon stin Eurogtpi. H imerominia se Italia kai Ellada einai 12 Nov, kai stis perissoteres xores tis Europis apo Oktovri kai meta. Mono oi koloamerikanoi tha tin doun stis 13 Aug. Astadiala.

Gmtxrstmktpngm.

[MoRmEnGiL]

GAMIOUNTE OSOI TO DOUN PRIN APO MENA

me thn kakh ennoia..sgsghha

[Carcass_]

Fixxxer den mou arese to alien breed sto 4 , oxi epeidh den einai kathierwmeno alla epeidh einai skata to sxedio. Oi hxoi pou evgaze pantws gamagan, polu epituxhmenoi.

[Carcass_]

Nai re , gamw to er
Eskase to trailer stis aithouses... ligo allagmeno apo thn teleutaia version. Olo to cinema proskunhse.
Etsi.

[rincewind2k]

ok επειδή το ψάχναμε νωρίτερα, εδώ (http://www.filmratings.com/guide.htm) έχει τα film ratings της MPAA για sex&violence κλπ (και εδώ (http://www.filmratings.com/questions.htm) το FAQ).

το AvP είναι PG-13, που σημαίνει οτι θα είναι πιθανότατα μια εντελώς GAY περιπετειούλα. Σκέψου οτι μέχρι και το Resident Evil ήταν rated R.

"PG-13: Parents Strongly Cautioned. Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13. This signifies that the film rated may be inappropriate for pre-teens. Parents should be especially careful about letting their younger children attend. Rough or persistent violence is absent; sexually-oriented nudity is generally absent; some scenes of drug use may be seen; one use of the harsher sexually derived words may be heard."

[Carcass_]

Nai to exw dei auto. Peri autou, tha ithela na rwthsw :
To PG-13 pou anaferetai sthn tainia , pws skata empleketai sthn allagh ths tainias ? Dld h idia h xwra einai upeuthinh gia auto, opote analoga me thn xwra tha exei diaforetikes skhnes h kovontai apo thn arxh ? Peite sigoura pragmata.

Kai kati akoma. Panw se auto, ena atomo eixe apanthsei polu swsta ta ekseis :
Parte ta Alien , Aliens kai Alien 3. Peite mou pou vlepete polu aima kai via ? Ektos apo thn skhnh me to droid sto 1 kai ton Bishop sto 2 ( pou htan kai oi duo droids ) den vlepoume pouthena oute ksekiliasmata, oute akrwthriasmous, oute anatinakseis kefaliwn ( ektos apo thn skhnh pou vgainei to plasma ) , oute kapoion na sernetai kai na aimoragei kai na argopethainei enw prospathei na shkwthei kai na glitwsei thn zwh tou. Outws h allos sto Aliens mono 2 atoma vlepoume na paithenoun me leptomerh tropo. Ton Frost kai ton Bishop ( pou den paithenei alla enigouei. Ante na valoume kai thn tupissa sthn arxh pou ths vgainei to plasma apo mesa ths ). Sto Alien 3 pou upotithetai oti gia thn epoxh tou htan kafrotainia , ektos apo ta gamostauridia se olh thn tainia kai to anoigma tou kraniou tou giatrou, ta upoloipa htan se normal skhnika.
Sta Preds pou exete dei polu aima ? Sxedon pouthena , ektos apo otan katharise ton Blane sto 1 pou fainetai h uperplhgh. Opotes...

[Carcass_]

As vrei kapoios ta 3 prwta Alien kai ta 2 Preds ti thewrounte

[Kveldssanger]

Για Predator δε βρήκα, αλλά Alien και Alien 3 είναι Rated R... Για το 2 δε γράφει, αλλά λογικά το ίδιο θα είναι...

[rincewind2k]

As vrei kapoios ta 3 prwta Alien kai ta 2 Preds ti thewrounte

ολα ειναι Rated R.

Σχετικά με το rating, όταν μια ταινία ολοκληρωθεί στέλνεται η τελική κόπια στην MPAA (αυτό γίνεται προαιρετικά από ότι λέει στο site, απλά το κάνουν όλοι, ειδικά τα μεγάλα studios) η οποία το κατατάσσει σε μια από τις κατηγορίες στο link που έδωσα. Μετά απο αυτό, αν ο σκηνοθέτης θέλει μπορεί να κόψει λιγάκι την ταινία, να κάνει ένα editing στις βίαιες πχ σκηνές και να την ξαναστείλει, οπότε βαθμολογείται εκ νέου. Όταν ο σκηνοθέτης μείνει ικανοποιημένος με το rating (προφανώς κάποιος θέλει pg-13 rating για να είναι η ταινία του προσβάσιμη από όσο περισσότερο κόσμο γίνεται και ειδικά τους πιτσιρικάδες εφόσον τους θεωρεί target group) τελειώνει με το editing και δίνει την ταινία για διανομή.

ΑΥΤΗ είναι η τελική κόπια που κυκλοφορεί παγκοσμίως και άρα προβάλλεται και στην ελλάδα. Το κόψιμο των σκηνών λοιπόν δεν γίνεται από μια κακιά υπηρεσία λογοκρισίας, αλλά από τον ίδιο το σκηνοθέτη (ή το studio σε περίπτωση που βάζει χέρι στην ταινία) προκειμένου να μπορέσει να την δει περισσότερος κόσμος.

[Carcass_]

Deite edw 2 clip theika gia na deite panw katw pws tha einai h tainia. Den kserw alla apo osa exw dei, den paizei na einai moufa.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/c ... large.html (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/clips/clips_faceoff_large.html)

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/c ... large.html (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avp/clips/clips_fight_large.html)

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Edw http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/planetavp/files/media/ign_avp_clips.zip


mporeite na katevasete 3 videakia apo thn tainia ta opoia den ta exei to site. Gamhstera. 9.7 mbs to zip pou ta periexei.

[Carcass_]

Kai enw shmera paizetai h tainia sthn Amerikh, diavasa 3 reviews opou thavoun thn tainia, thewrontas thn kakh ( oute kan metria ). Kuriws lene oti se auto ftaiei o skhnotheths. Den mou fenetai periergo apo thn mia, alla einai apogohteutiko apo thn allh ( oxi toso gia thn tainia , alla oso gia to anoigma pou tha ekane se tainies Alien kai Predator apo allous skinothetes ). An patwsei h tainia , apla apoxairetame gia panta ta 2 uperoxa auta plasmata apo ton kinhmatografo. Alla prepei na erthei kai apo edw h tainia , gia na exoume kai emeis apopsh. Pantws ta pragmata einai oligon ti apokardiotika.

[Ithilmir]

koita, apo ta trailer pou eida -kai to senario- h tainia fainetai trelh pipa.
Sigoura ftaiei o skhnotheths-senariografos , alla opws kai na xei egw tha paw sigoura na th dw.
Btw ,kai ta 3 alien eixan korifaious skhnothetes ( R.Scott, J.Cameron kai D.Fintcher ,antistixa-an thimamai kala-) kai gia ta predator den thimamai(kai variemai na kanw search twra)
alla Predator >>>...> Predator 2.

[Carcass_]

Vasika to senario den einai to provlhma. Mia xara gamato einai, all time classics kai akolouthei teleiws ta comics san senario. Den htan ekei to provlhma alla sthn skhnothesia. Oswn afora ta trailers kai ta clip mia xara mou fanhkan proswpika, kathws den eixan malakies mesa. Alla sto marketing kai sthn diafhmish den mporeis na deis tis malakies, so gia na ksereis telika an mia tainia einai ontws malakia prepei na thn deis. Den diafwnw oti h skhnothesia mporei na einai mapa, outws h allos kai o skinotheths eiani gia ton poutso ( kai pragmatika den mporw na katalavw pws skinothethse thn ergara pou legetai Event Horizon ) alla apo tis kritikes pou eida, ektos autou ola ta upoloipa htan gia ton poutso. Px kapoios eixe provlhma epeidh ta alien geniontousan polu grhgora meta to facehuggin. E auta einai gia ton poutso kavala sxolia ( an kai , h apanthsh vrisketai sto Alien. Apo otan ksupnaei mexri pou trwei , posh wra phre na skasei to plasma ? KAti lepta isws .... ) kai pragmatika den krinoun mia tainia. Proswpika 2 pragmata fovamai. Thn kakh skinothesia ( kai oxi toso thn metria , dioti h metria sunithws pernaei aparathrhth ) kai tous kakous dialogous. Outws h allos h kentrikh ithopoios exei apothewthei apo tous pantes. Oso gia tous upoloipous, ta videakia me exoun peisei gia to paiksimo tous ( klapsomouniko ala Aliens , opote proswpika tha goustarw ). Ektos apo auta ta 2 me fovizoun ( se deuterouonta vathmo ) alla 2 pragmata pou phgazoun apo to PG-13 rating. To ena einai oti gore skhnes einai kommenes ( kai kati kommeno fainetai oti eiani kommeno) pou odhgei se elleipeis skhnes drashs kai to teleutaio einai oti kapoies skhnes me alien kai predator tha tis exoun traviksei apo ta malia wste na swsoun ta "kommena ". Den kserw, to na leme ikasies einai malakia. As doume thn tainia prwta ( h opoia argei akoma ).

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Akolouthoun 2 reviews gia thn tainia , me liga ews elaxista spoilers apo anthrwpous periodikwn :

To thetiko :

AvP combines the old-fashioned monster and haunted-house movies of old to create a thrilling blend of action and science fiction that is sure to delight fans. My biggest fault with the film was that it was not long enough -- the 100 minute running time passed quickly and I was left wanting more. As good as the action sequences were, I had hoped that there would be more of them.

The film is also light on scares and tension, as Anderson seems to have decided that the audience for this film would know about the title creatures already, so time did not need to be spent on reintroductions.

The action sequences in the film are solid and they had the audience in my press screener cheering loudly and often as the two cinematic titans waged war. The pacing of the film is brisk and the lighting and visuals of the film are used well to create the atmosphere. I particularly found the sequences where flashlights and laser sights probed the dark areas of the pyramid to be fascinating to watch, as the eerie glow was appropriate to the mood of the film.

True, the film does not have much in the way of complex plot, character development, or much for the cast to do other than be middlemen to the title creatures, but Anderson stays true to the source material and delivers a solid tale that largely protects the continuity of the Alien series and paves the way for future installments.

While some may find issue with the toned-down nature of the film's violence, at least compared to others in the series, I found that I was still able to enjoy the film and I am sure a rematch between the title characters is something fans everywhere will be waiting for.

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Ena pio antikeimeniko :

What Worked:
Let me start off by saying that I'm a long time Aliens and Predator fan. I've watched all the films in both series many times over and I've followed the spin off books and comics. I even bought the first Aliens vs. Predator comics from Dark Horse as soon as they hit comic shelves so many years ago. So it was with eager anticipation that I awaited Alien vs. Predator. However, there were a couple of troubling signs as opening day approached. The first was that they didn't screen the film for press until the day before the film opened. This typically means the studio thinks the film sucks and that they don't want bad buzz getting out early. The official Fox excuse was that they were working on effects up until the last minute. I wasn't sure what to believe. The second bad sign was that AICN posted review after review absolutely slamming the movie without mercy. While I try not to read other people's reviews before I screen films, the bad AVP buzz from AICN was inescapable. Fortunately, the bad signs weren't that bad after all. There was nothing in the film that Fox should have been overly embarrassed about, so maybe the official line about effects was true. And I also think the people sending in negative reviews to AICN were either fakes (sent by a website with a grudge against AICN) or people just looking for an excuse to tear a movie apart regardless of whether it was bad or not.

I actually walked away from AVP thinking it was pretty decent. It wasn't as good as it could have been, but it wasn't the train wreck that many people were expecting either. It ended up being exactly what I thought it would be – a decent popcorn / monster flick. I thought it wasn't anywhere near the quality of the original films, but it was a bit better than Predator 2 and Alien 3. While I wish they had simply adapted the first Aliens vs. Predator comic (which took place on another planet far in the future), this adventure ended up working out OK. In fact, the movie became more and more like the comic right up until the end. Some of the key moments from the comic are included in this film. The marking of foreheads with the alien finger and blood is here. Some of the classic AVP shots are here. There are other similarities, but I won't go into them here.

This film also ties heavily into the film franchises that started everything. The Weyland company is the same one seen in the Aliens films. Charles Bishop Weyland is even the guy that the Bishop android from Aliens is modeled after. Lance Henriksen reprises the role, of course. (He even does a brief tip of the hat to the knife between the fingers trick from Aliens.) You see all stages of the Aliens from face huggers to chest bursters all the way up to the Queen. The Predators also have all of their trademarks. They string people up from rafters, use all sorts of nifty gadgets, and keep trophies from their victims. Though the movie doesn't entirely feel like either an Alien or Predator sequel, these trademarks help give some authenticity to the film.

The effects vary in quality, but they are generally good. I was particularly impressed with the CGI Aliens. They looked great. There are some great shots of the warrior Aliens as well as the Queen. You get to see her in full battle action and it was quite spectacular. Shots of her and thousands upon thousands of swarming Aliens really made me eager to see a purely Alien sequel. I'd really like to see what they could pull off with new technology. The Predators looked best when their masks were on. I didn't like their faces as much when they removed their masks, but this was a rare occurrence. Their ships were also portrayed in a cool stealth manner.

As for the human actors, they weren't terribly impressive. But then again, they are there simply to be killed by the monsters. Nothing more. Besides Lance Henriksen as Charles Bishop Weyland, Sanaa Lathan is the only other notable one as Alexa Woods. She and all of the others have all sorts of bad dialogue and cheesy moments, but that's OK. I didn't go to see Shakespeare. I went to see Aliens fight Predators and that's what I got.

Overall, I thought it was a decent action flick. If you're an Aliens or Predator fan, I think you'll find moments throughout the film that will impress you. It wasn't as spectacular as it could have been, but it wasn't a bomb either.

What Didn't Work:
Unfortunately, AVP has a lot working against it. Besides the previously mentioned bad buzz, I know many people take issue with the fact that it isn't R rated like its predecessors. It's PG-13. In many people's minds, this means it is not as good. They believe that the scares and gore have been toned down for the kiddies. Well, yes and no. The film didn't get the R rating because it wasn't people getting gutted, cut, and mangled. It was the imaginary monsters that were. Because there isn't so much violence against humans, it got the lighter rating (which makes business sense if you want as many people watching the film as possible.). That being said, though, the film isn't scary like its predecessors. Aliens was the last movie to actually give me nightmares while Predator was scary on a whole other level. Alien vs. Predator doesn't capture any of what made those films scary. In fact, I didn't flinch once during AVP. Maybe it was more because I was jaded to big screen frights, but I didn't find any suspense in it at all. It was mainly about the action.

I also wish the film was still based on the comic and set on another planet. While this film worked OK, I like the futuristic, frontier setting a lot better. I think it would have given the audience a better, stranger environment. Another minor gripe was that the whole Alien lifecycle was greatly accelerated for the film. Rather than going from facehugger to full alien in a few days, it's a matter of a few hours in the movie. I didn't like it, bu maybe you can justify it by saying they were modified by the Predators to grow faster.

As for other problems with the film, I already mentioned the bad dialogue and poor Predator faces. To that I'll add that I didn't like the look of some of the action scenes. The camera would pull in extremely close to the action and the lighting would kind of strobe. The end result was a big blur during the fight scenes. I couldn't tell what the heck was going on. The camera pulled back a bit more as the movie progressed and I got a better sense of the battles, but early on it was frustrating.

The Bottom Line:
I think you'll find Alien vs. Predator worth checking out. Don't listen to anyone else's opinions – good or bad. Just go in expecting a popcorn flick and I think you'll enjoy it.

[Carcass_]

kai to kraksimo :

Alien Vs. Predator” is a film made only for those who are gluttons for punishment. Who else in their right mind would want to see writer/director Paul W.S. Anderson take not one, but two healthy franchises with unlimited potential and make a mockery of them both for 90 minutes? Well, maybe 12 year-olds, which this new film is aimed squarely at. All others should just stay at home and save yourself the heartbreak.

Anderson comes to “AVP” with a terrifying track record in genre films, which includes such rotten titles as “Soldier,” “Mortal Kombat,” and “Event Horizon.” His last film, the yeah-it’s-bad-but-convincing-junk “Resident Evil,” understood the genre rules, or at the very least could pull a little fun out of its hindquarters. “AVP” doesn’t even offer that much. Instead of widescreen genre goodies, Anderson cloaks much of his comatose action sequences in complete and confusing darkness, which also covers the lousy sets and the lousy Predator costumes. Anderson’s script is equally as irritating, with one character, an Italian archeologist, spending the entire movie explaining every little detail (including an absurdly staged flashback to the origins of the pyramid) as the film chugs along. Anderson doesn’t leave anything to the imagination or to chance, robbing the film of the mystery both franchises once worked overtime to preserve.

Anderson’s writing enters even more dangerous ground when he decides to alter some critical “Alien” and “Predator” lore. The alien chestbursters in “AVP” only take minutes to properly develop in their human hosts and eventually live up to their name, as opposed to the days in the previous “Alien” films. The acidic danger of the alien blood is also monkeyed with without reason, making the classic alien defense only really a threat when Anderson needs a way to help end one of his terribly edited fight sequences. Anderson’s redesign of the Predator facial make-up is also a disappointment, with the creature looking even more artificial than it did way back in original 1987 film! This is progress?

The only person who comes out of this mess with any type of dignity is actress Sanaa Lathan, who passes muster even with the achingly bad dialog Anderson has provided her. She’s a reliable actress, following in the steps of Sigourney Weaver as a strong female action star. She’s deserves better than to act in scenes where she makes friends with 7 foot tall Predators.

The “AVP” set-up takes a good long time to get going, which is probably Anderson’s greatest sin. The last horror match up, “Freddy Vs. Jason,” had a lightning pace and a macabre sense of humor to get it through that icky feeling of studio cash in. “AVP” isn’t as lucky, and is a downright bore for about 45 minutes before it becomes downright offensive. I don’t know which is worse. And get this: “AVP” is rated PG-13! There’s nothing like bringing two horror franchise titans together, who have a total of six R-rated films between them, and watering down their carnage so the little league crowd can see the film on a Saturday matinee. Maybe the Predators should spend a little less time hunting aliens, and more time trying to recapture some cinematic integrity.

[Carcass_]

Alla opws leei kai to bottom line tou deuterou review, mhn akoute tis gnwmes twn allwn. Giati yparxoun xiliades apopseis panta kai den shmainei oti tha sumfwnoun me to pws eide o kathenas mas thn tainia. Opws kai sto prwto LoTR pou to athinorama to ethapse kanonika ( 2 sta 5 asterakia ) uphrxan autoi pou to latrepsan kai autoi pou to mishsan. Par'ola auta parathetw ta review gia na parei o kathenas mia idea apo 3 apopseis kai ti na perimenei na dei.

[Phoebus]

Paixthke megalh malakia me tous dianomeis.

Epestrepsa apo diakopes kai thymomoun oti meta tis 15 tha paizei to ergo kai phga kai mou eipan noembrh... pikra.

Ntaks, tha thn katebasw kai tha thn dw... :>

[{NightStalker}]

GKAVLA h afisa.

[Carcass_]

Den paixthke malakia me tous dianomeis, htan gnwsto apo otan vghke h hmeromhnia kukloforias tou oti tha erxotan Ellada 12 Noemvrh.
Indeed kavla h afissa.
Polles kommenes skhnes tha doume sto DVD to opoio einai R-rated.

[MoRmEnGiL]

POTE 8A ER8EI LEEI? :shock:

[Phoebus]

Carcass_ egw thymomoun release date 15 aygoustou pantws kai ypethesa oti tha htan hmeromhnia pagkosmias kykloforias... Oh well, no worries, katebhke kai tha to dw twra.... :P

[Phoebus]

Ok, to eida.

Arketa kalo, xarhka. Exei merikes wraies skhnes, eidika stis maxes alien vs predator... Kanoun poseries amfoteroi... Eidika o predator...

[Carcass_]

O Anderson dhlwse oti tou kopsane oles tis skhnes me ta aimata kai ta resta, alla par'ola auta tha periexontai oles sto DVD pou tha vgei, to opoio einai ( anamenomeno ) R Rated kai oxi PG-13 rated.

[MoRmEnGiL]

to opoio se psoa xronia 8a er8ei? :?

[Carcass_]

dunno se poso kairo tha vgei.
Pantws, uparxoun kala nea apo to apotelesma. Htan tha sas aresei h oxi, to apotelesma pou vgainei gia thn FOX tha einai makroxronio apo oti fainetai.
To parakatw parthike apo to forum tou planet.avp, pragma pou thewreite egkuro.

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You just can't kill a good franchise. Heck, you can't even kill a bad franchise.

Talking to an insider at FOX in Century City a couple of days back , I heard that there's high hopes for everything 'Alien' and 'Predator' - what with the pleasing B.O figures for "Aliens vs.Predator" and all. Despite not even being previewed for critics (probably just as well, I caught it yesterday and thought it sucked more than Pammy Anderson)the film has made quite a packet over the past couple of weeks, leaving FOX with a fat smile on their face and everyone who has got an idea for a sequel, spin-off or stand-alone movie very, very optimistic, if not giddy with possibility.

The plan is - new stand-alone "Predator" movies, new stand-alone "Alien" movies. No sequel to "AvP" at the moment. If anything, "AvP" was a way of a re-introducing these characters so that there could be new stand-alone films in their respective series. Never was it a plan to do a series of "AvP" movies.

One 'Predator 3' pitch that's been doing the rounds sounds stellar. It's set in snowy New York, and re-introduces Arnold Schwarzenegger's character, Dutch. You'd think the possibility of this one happening hinders on whether Schwarzenegger returns to the Governors chair but not necessarily, word is they think they could easily have someone else play the character from here on in. They picture 'Dutch' as being this big 'Riddick/Snake Plissken' esque character that will inevitably be more of a drawcard than the monster itself.

The script's apparently hotter than the Californian Sun. Best of all, for the studio, it leaves it open for a "Predator 4" - which is rumoured to feature a female rogue.

As for "Alien", the latest is that it'll be a Ridley Scott - Sigourney Weaver re-team. Talk is underway, but it's still early days. Wouldn't be surprised if it's hurried though.

[Carcass_]

Exclusive: Paul Anderson on AvP
Paul W.S. Anderson is in the capital at the moment promoting his new film, Alien vs. Predator, and FilmFocus was granted an audience with the director (otherwise known as an 'interview') to discuss this year's biggest movie featuring Aliens and Predators. Also, bizarrely, the smallest. Being that it's the only one.

The director was quick to quash any rumours that might have been circulating regarding an R-Rated plot. He revealed there had never been an R-Rated version of the film and that the PG-13 rating was as a result of the simulated Alien and Predator gore, less harmful in the censor's eyes.

He also put down rumours of an R-Rated directors cut, but we can exclusively reveal that there will be new material on the DVD.

Anderson told us that, in his original vision of the opening, there was to be a flashback to 1904, the last time the Predators came to earth to do their business (the alien killing kind). This flashback will be restored for the DVD and it'll be the first scene in the film of Aliens and Predators battling. Anderson revealed that the ultimate decision was made to cut the pay-off from the opening, keeping the species' first encounter with one another for a later stage.

The film features Lance Henrikssen, an Alien franchise stalwart, as the billionare tycoon Charles Weyland. What you might not know, however, is that this was not to be the only part recycled from the seperate franchises.

Perhaps the juciest piece on the menu however, Anderson told us that Arnold Schwarzenegger had gone as far as to accept a role in the film, reprising the character he tackled in Predator, Dutch Schaeffer. Anderson revealed that Arnie had only two stipulations, that his role would be conditional on his losing the election for Governor in California, and that it would be filmed at his home.

The scene was to be a short cameo, involving Arnie's own helicopter. While Anderson didn't discuss details, at a guess we'd say it would have had something to do with him rescuing the survivors at the end of AvP.

Alien vs. Predator is released in this country on 22nd October and we'll be bringing you our take on the film closer to release. Our exclusive interview with Anderson will be on the site shortly.

[FIXXXER]

Borei o Arnie na paixei tora pou einai kuvernitis?

[Ithilmir]

Borei o Arnie na paixei tora pou einai kuvernitis?


Anderson revealed that Arnie had only two stipulations, that his role would be conditional on his losing the election for Governor in California, and that it would be filmed at his home.

Vghke kyvernhths=den exase tis ekloges=akyrh h symfwnia

[FIXXXER]

De diavasa to keimeno olokliro giati einai terastio. Thanks gia tin lusi. :D

[enitharmon]

molis gyrisa

ta spaei to ergo

deite to me parea kai pop corn


xaxaxaxa

oi gkomenes oxi mono einai mods sto politic forum, alla swzoun kai ton kosmo xaxaxaxa

[Carcass_]

Paraskeuh vgainei mounares

[Carcass_]

To eida kai karagoustara. Krima pou einai toso mikro se diarkeia.
Sigoura tha mporouse na htan polu kalutero, alla iksera ti tha dw kai den apogohteuthika. H monh ksenera oti htan toso mikro ( gurw sta 90 lepta peripou, to dvd einai 101 me kapoies kainourgies skhnes ). Den antapokrinetai sthn atmosfaira twn gnwstwn tainiwn, einai action teleiws. Oi kinhseis , ta koustoumia kai genikotera to feeling twn 2 franchizers exei meinei sxedon anepafo. Kales oi skhnes draseis, sigoura tha mporousan na htan perissoteres.
Gia osous htan me tous preds ( \m/ ) kai ksenerwsan gia tous 2 apo tous 3, thimithite oti htan teenagers kai oxi kanonikoi ( kati pou to dikaiologei ). Tha ithela na dw vevaia ti tha ginotan an eixan kapoion pred h tou prwtou h tou deuterou ergou.

Parte kapoies deleted scenes : http://home.comcast.net/~g.nikolashin/deleted2.htm

kai auto to anamenomeno dvd : http://home.comcast.net/~g.nikolashin/deleted2.htm

Gia to dvd, den to vrhka pouthena allou alla den exw dei pote to play com na vazei moufes h "fhmes" h na kanei lathoi. Opote xairomai kapws idietera gia thn yparksh tou.

[freak brother]

molis gyrisa

ta spaei to ergo

deite to me parea kai pop corn


xaxaxaxa

oi gkomenes oxi mono einai mods sto politic forum, alla swzoun kai ton kosmo xaxaxaxa

exei kai andra mod to politics

:(

[Ithilmir]

το δα και γώ χθές και οκ ψιλομούφα ταινία αλλά ΠΩΡΩΣΗ.
γαμώ. Πάμε να παίξουμε ΑvP 2 τώρα όλοι μαζί.
Α και ήταν σαν μεταφορά του παιχνιδιού στο σινεμά και όχι σαν κάτι από Αlien και Predator μαζί.Το οποίο ήταν και ο λόγος για την πώρωση.

[Tonosalata]

wraiouli htan

[Dunadan Ranger]

mallon eimai o monos pou eixa pe8anei sta gelia apo tous eleinous dialogous kai thn eleinh plokh.
de gamietai elpizw to 2 na einai kapws kalytero.

[enitharmon]

molis gyrisa

ta spaei to ergo

deite to me parea kai pop corn


xaxaxaxa

oi gkomenes oxi mono einai mods sto politic forum, alla swzoun kai ton kosmo xaxaxaxa

exei kai andra mod to politics

:(
*pat pat*

otan ekana to post den eixe akoma (antra mod)

[enitharmon]

mallon eimai o monos pou eixa pe8anei sta gelia apo tous eleinous dialogous kai thn eleinh plokh.
de gamietai elpizw to 2 na einai kapws kalytero.
Dunadan, DEN pame se tetoies tainies gia na thaumasoume tin ploki, tous dialogous kai tin ithopoiia.

Euxaristw :)

[Dragonlord]

epishs otan pe8ainoume sta gelia me mia tainia den perimenoume kai to sequel gia na dwsoume alla 7e

[enitharmon]

to perimenoume kai ta dinoume, giati einai eggyimeni pigi geliou :)

[Dunadan Ranger]

to perimenoume kai ta dinoume, giati einai eggyimeni pigi geliou :)

ayto.


oson afora ta prohgoumena...h3era ti phgaina na dw...ta cgi phgaina na idw panw ap ola kai san fan twn predator phgaina na idw predators na spernoun se mia tainia ths opoias to senario kai oi dialogoi 8a kratagan kapoio epipedo.

profanws h geloiothta tou senariou pou fenete na to exei grapsei 10xronos oi apisteyta hli8ies atakes (the enemy of my enemy is my friend.THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND,AAAAAAAAAAA THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND) kai to gegonos pws mia tainia 1.30 wras katafernei na asxolh8ei me ta aliens kai tous predator se skhnes maxhs peripou apo th mesh ths tainias kai katw e ayto mou ftanei pisteyw gia na thn krazw.

sthn telikh na kanane akribh metafora ta pc games sthn o8onh kai oxi na pernoune to concept AvP kai na tou gamane to spiti.
an bebaia exoume ftasei se shmeio logw anypar3ias a3iologwn tainiwn na phgainoume cinema kai na blepoume mono cgi kai bgainontas na anafwnoume W 8EOI TI ypertath tainia htan ayth pou espeire kai gamhse nta3 kati den paei kala...kalo to pop corn alla mh mas katsei kai sto laimo.
den perimena na dw tainia pou phgaine na parei oskar senariou ...oute dialogous kai h8opoia opou 8a htan to shmeio anaforas ...alla eleos....

THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND....

PS:oi paragwgoi kai o skhno8eths prepei na kaoun sthn pyra gia parabash ths 11hs entolhs pou dw8hke ston mwysh ap to 8eo.

THOU SHALL NOT SUCK

[wraithmare]

PS:oi paragwgoi kai o skhno8eths prepei na kaoun sthn pyra gia parabash ths 11hs entolhs pou dw8hke ston mwysh ap to 8eo.

THOU SHALL NOT SUCK

:rofl:

[enitharmon]

ena diwro tha itane kalytero ontws

ki an prepei mia gynaika na swsei ton kosmo, toulaxiston na einai pio sexy ki oxi ksenerwti

[freak brother]

ena diwro tha itane kalytero ontws

ki an prepei mia gynaika na swsei ton kosmo, toulaxiston na einai pio sexy ki oxi ksenerwti
mhn ginese sexistria!!

[FIXXXER]

Ego pantos autin tin mauroula den tin afina. Re gamoto polu mikri itan. Eprepe na itan kana misaoro megaluteri. Kata ta alla oti perimenes auto eides. Ennoeitai pos imoun me Predators, an kai fovamai perissotero ta aliens. :P

[wraithmare]

ALIENS RULE THE WORLD

H mavroula htan aksiofuckable

[Carcass_]

to AvP 2 den tha to skhnothethsei o paparhs pou skinothethse to prwto.
g.
Gelaw me dunadan ranger pou kathise kai asxolithike me tous dialogous ths tainias. Polu mprosta.
Ithilmir, egw goustara giati eixe arketa stoixeia apo to comic. g epi 2.

[Carcass_]

kai poios thn gamah thn mauroula otan exeis predators se mia tainia ( kai as ton pinoune oi 2 sthn arxh ).

[aggelhs_rwxamhs]

kai poios thn gamah thn mauroula otan exeis predators se mia tainia ( kai as ton pinoune oi 2 sthn arxh ).
Ama moy katsei, egw!

[Dunadan Ranger]

Gelaw me dunadan ranger pou kathise kai asxolithike me tous dialogous ths tainias. Polu mprosta.

to oti gelas na to eklabw ws kati kako gia mena?
profanws einai tainia mono gia tyflous kwfalalous ...mhn blepete mhn diabazete ypotitlous ...mhn akoute kiets?

kalh fash

egw pantws ena exw na pw...ola t alla einai malakies...

the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

quote me arxidia ...oxi malakies...

[FIXXXER]

quote me elleipsi humor kalutera. H esto polu periorismeni aisthisi.

[When Black Roses Bloom]

[quote="Carcass_":2mjaet1y]Gelaw me dunadan ranger pou kathise kai asxolithike me tous dialogous ths tainias. Polu mprosta.

to oti gelas na to eklabw ws kati kako gia mena?
profanws einai tainia mono gia tyflous kwfalalous ...mhn blepete mhn diabazete ypotitlous ...mhn akoute kiets?

kalh fash

egw pantws ena exw na pw...ola t alla einai malakies...

the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

quote me arxidia ...oxi malakies...[/quote:2mjaet1y]


Ok, loipon, esu phges na deis mia tainia me 2 eidh ekswghhnwn kai perimenes na diabaseis kai na akouseis atakes apo Iapwniko Kinhmatografo e? Right.

[FIXXXER]

Ataka filou mou opos vlepame tin diafimisi tou Anacondas (Anaconda 2 me liga logia):

Po re pousti mou, les na vgaloun kai Free Willy VS Anaconda?



psofisa apto gelio.

[Dunadan Ranger]

[quote="Dunadan Ranger":36hd19xk][quote="Carcass_":36hd19xk]Gelaw me dunadan ranger pou kathise kai asxolithike me tous dialogous ths tainias. Polu mprosta.

to oti gelas na to eklabw ws kati kako gia mena?
profanws einai tainia mono gia tyflous kwfalalous ...mhn blepete mhn diabazete ypotitlous ...mhn akoute kiets?

kalh fash

egw pantws ena exw na pw...ola t alla einai malakies...

the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

quote me arxidia ...oxi malakies...[/quote:36hd19xk]


Ok, loipon, esu phges na deis mia tainia me 2 eidh ekswghhnwn kai perimenes na diabaseis kai na akouseis atakes apo Iapwniko Kinhmatografo e? Right.[/quote:36hd19xk]


to na mhn h8ela na akousw atakes (kai malista eis diploun)...pou na apey8ynonte aysthra se atoma me dianohtika problhmata ...den paizei se tainies me eidh e3wghinwn etsi?

ta 2 options mas einai h' bazeis SEXphrikous h8opoious kai apaggeloun quotes apo megales prwsopikothtes tou aiwna mas me ba8ytera nohmata ...h bazeis 2 ourakotagkous kai paizoun me tis petres kraygazontas....

na mhn perimenw mia mesh lysh

an ftasame ekei...katantia


ps: de 8ymamai ta predator kai ta alien na eixan toso ma toso gelious dialogous ...an kapoios 8ymatai kalytera apo mena as mou 8ymisei plz.

[TRAMPAKOULAS]

h tainia eprepe na einai toulaxiston mish wra megalyterh.den prolavaineis na xareis ton genikotero xamo kai niw8eis oti to davadouri teleiwse prin kan arxisei.epishs perimena perissoterous predators opws epishs perimena kai perissoteres skhnes maxhs.kata ta alla h fash eixe gousto.anamenw to 2

[Tonosalata]

h tainia eprepe na einai toulaxiston mish wra megalyterh.den prolavaineis na xareis ton genikotero xamo kai niw8eis oti to davadouri teleiwse prin kan arxisei.epishs perimena perissoterous predators opws epishs perimena kai perissoteres skhnes maxhs.kata ta alla h fash eixe gousto.anamenw to 2

wraia me kalipse :P
nai perase poly grigora h tainia, PIOTERO KSILO RE

[The Nerd]

To eida shmera...
MALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKIA!!!!
An kai fanatikos predatoras kai kala ta paw me ta alien, to ergaki einai aisxro kai o Paul Anderson prepei na ektelestei parayta...

[ConJoined Thighs]

h tainia eprepe na einai toulaxiston mish wra megalyterh.den prolavaineis na xareis ton genikotero xamo kai niw8eis oti to davadouri teleiwse prin kan arxisei.epishs perimena perissoterous predators opws epishs perimena kai perissoteres skhnes maxhs.kata ta alla h fash eixe gousto.anamenw to 2


akrivws afto.Ligi drasi re gamwto!