View Full Version : To Holy Gift twn TooL (The truth about Lateralus)
XenoVagrant
20-12-2003, 12:03
Basika einai to proto mou post edo kai de ksero apo pou n arxiso kai apo pou na teleioso. Ksero pos iparxoun polla themata peri TooL omos brika kati poli simantiko gia to Lateralus. Epeidi den exo xrono apla diabaste
to http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/question/insight7.html kai logika tha meinete afonoi opos ego. I mageia autou tou album einai apisteuti. Den exo logia na to sxoliaso.
Opos eipa den exo xrono gia pio polla. Sxoliaste to kai sinexizo ki ego me tis skepseis mou alli fora.
Kveldssanger
20-12-2003, 12:23
Καλώς ήρθες στο forum... Αν ψάξεις λίγο πιο κάτω στο non-Metal υπάρχει ένα thread για το Lateralus, οπότε αν θες να συνεχίσεις τη συζήτηση μπορείς να το κάνεις εκεί...
basika prepei na iparxoun 3-4 threads gia to lateralus
Amnesiac.
20-12-2003, 16:04
entaksei ti na pw...
einai apisteyta ayta ta pragmata.
kalws irthes sto forum btw XenoVagrant
xmm isws na de endiaferei kai to sygkekrimeno site http://www.toolpantheon.com/lateralus_meanings.htm
have a look.
as mas pei ki emas kapoios ti leei to site
Buddy Lackey
20-12-2003, 17:05
to site opws eipe o XenoVagrant deixnei tin mageia tou Lateralus
opoios paei ekei kai diavasei, akouei allo Lateralus meta.
rockavlon
20-12-2003, 18:29
reply - akomh kai reordered - einai to idio xalia ta kommatia...
Chopped In Half
21-12-2003, 02:13
Οοοοο, hey Xeno, rr here. Κουλτουριάριδες. :lol:
xmm isws na de endiaferei kai to sygkekrimeno site http://www.toolpantheon.com/lateralus_meanings.htm
have a look.
Eisai sigouros gia to link? Gia tsekare to...
Amnesiac.
22-12-2003, 00:13
xmm mallon exei kleisei to site.
malakia.
de mpeirazei, pigainte sto allo link, einai gamato.
jag panzer.
spacedyevest83
22-12-2003, 03:34
Den ksero an o tipos leei moufes sto link (pou de nomizo),pantws ego porothika akoma pio poli meta apo auto.To lateralus einai apo tous kaliterous diskous pou exoun vgei pote gia mena, kai ok polloi mporoun na to amfisvitisoun afto alla den peirazei more :P
rockavlon
22-12-2003, 13:57
axamn tin kithara pou paizei o broderick den thn paizoun oi tool oute st oneiro tous. auta. anadiertakse twra to lateralus na thn akouseis stereo-fonika. super duper malakies.
eisai toso kairo sto forum kai oute mia lexh gia tous ostrogoth.me apogohteyeis...drepesai na xwseis h xenerwses? :?
Amnesiac.
23-12-2003, 02:23
paw na anadiertaksw tin kithara tou mpolntrik.
rockavlon
23-12-2003, 12:24
anadiatakseis. panta pianesai apo mispellings...
Re paidia to gamisate to topic kai einai kai to prwto tou paidiou...Tespa egw diavasa ligo mexris otou ta matia mou kanan poulakia kai nomisa pws pira lsd (katw ta mavra background sto interntet)- duh twra molis skeftika na to kanw paste sto wordpad mipws vgalw akrh... Allh seira tragoudiwn? There's a point.
rincewind2k
23-12-2003, 16:56
Re paidia to gamisate to topic kai einai kai to prwto tou paidiou...
etsi na mpainei sto klima siga siga
{NightStalker}
25-12-2003, 19:44
yeah,right...
giati *katargoume* auto pou de mporoume na katanoisoume?
Buddy Lackey
25-12-2003, 20:51
etsi katarghsame kai ton sexidh
Retali-ator
26-12-2003, 01:00
oraia ola auta peri arithmous fibonacci klp,an einai alitheia,omos kapoioi(syberalamvanomonou kai tou ellina xenaki) ta kanane auta prin apo 100 xronia. Oi anoixtomyaloi vevaia den ta gnorizoun auta.
K oraia vazeis akolouthies arithmwn k ftiaxneis me autous disko. To mousiko apotelesma poio einai?
ena pelorio 0 fysika,to opoio pernoun oi tool
lost_icon
26-12-2003, 01:32
xenovagrant to avatar sou gamei!! poly endiaferon to link!
TOOL RE MOUNIA NAI REEE GAMW REEEEE!!!!!!
p.s.ante kai xronia polla se olous :twisted:
lost_icon
26-12-2003, 01:50
axamn tin kithara pou paizei o broderick den thn paizoun oi tool oute st oneiro tous. auta. anadiertakse twra to lateralus na thn akouseis stereo-fonika. super duper malakies.
ok rockavlon eisai super duper metallas!!! gamas!!!! xaxaxaxaxaxa!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Buddy Lackey
26-12-2003, 01:55
e nten leei kai psemmata
lost_icon
26-12-2003, 02:03
e nten leei kai psemmata
ee tote giati esy kai aftos postarete se afto to akyro thread? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Buddy Lackey
26-12-2003, 02:06
exei plaka
lost_icon
26-12-2003, 02:16
exei plaka
.
Amnesiac.
26-12-2003, 15:56
oraia ola auta peri arithmous fibonacci klp,an einai alitheia,omos kapoioi(syberalamvanomonou kai tou ellina xenaki) ta kanane auta prin apo 100 xronia. Oi anoixtomyaloi vevaia den ta gnorizoun auta.
K oraia vazeis akolouthies arithmwn k ftiaxneis me autous disko. To mousiko apotelesma poio einai?
ena pelorio 0 fysika,to opoio pernoun oi tool
iaswn triantafyllidis detected.
Den katalava pou kollaei pali h prwsopikh krish twn Tool sto sygkekrimeno topic...Sou thn zhthse kaneis?
http://toolshed.down.net/0000.html deite to faq section.
Apo oti fainetai yparxoun polla para polla mystika sxetika me to Lateralus alla kai me tous tool genikotera.
Retali-ator
26-12-2003, 23:21
Den katalava pou kollaei pali h prwsopikh krish twn Tool sto sygkekrimeno topic...Sou thn zhthse kaneis?
to post mou exei mia sygekrimeni domi kai kataligi stin kritiki tous.nomizo einai arketa katanoito,tora ean eiste se thesi na katalavainete kryfa noimata kai akolouthies arithmwn k oxi auto... :roll:
Ena pelwrio 0, to opoio pernei o Retaliator. Ayto katalava.
http://www.nma-fallout.com/images/miscfunny/stfu.jpg
koita na to sinithiseis
rockavlon
27-12-2003, 02:41
hm mia parathrhsh, arithmoi fionabachi or whatever, arithmoi se akolouthia opou o kathenas eina athroisma twn dio prohgoumenwn ! an thymamai kala. kala poios kathise kai to anelyse toso poly ? to pio pithano einai na leei kapoios parlapipes - i na bghke epithdes h fhmh gia na promotarei to album. poios kathise kai to anelyse....
agamia detected se auton pou tha kathotan na anakalypsei an ena mousiko kommati akolouthei to golden rule..... pou paizetai ki auto./
daydreamer
27-12-2003, 04:01
πάντως ο Carrey έχει στάνταρ drum patterns βασισμένα σε μαθηματικά...
παρλαπίπες είναι πολύ πιθανό να λένε πολλοί, αλλά σε ότι αφορά τους Tool πολλά πράγματα γύρω από αυτούς και τη μουσική τους (πχ artworks, videos etc) σίγουρα δεν είναι φτιαγμένα στην τύχη και είτε είναι φτιαγμένα επίτηδες για να δημιουργήσουν ένα cult image, είτε έχουν όντως τρελά βαθύτερα νοήματα είναι ικανά να σε κάνουν να το ψάξεις το θέμα...
Πάντως σε ότι αφορά το "Holy Gift" το άκουσα το άλμπουμ σε αυτή τη σειρά που προτείνει και ομολογώ ότι ξαφνιάστηκα με το πως κόλλαγαν ορισμένες αλλαγές τραγουδιών (αν και εκεί με το choke το παρατραβάει, όταν μερικές φορές θες κάτι να είναι αλήθεια αυτοϋποβάλλεσαι) στιχουργικά δεν κοίταξα να δω αν βγαίνει κάτι νέο...
Η μοναδική ατμόσφαιρα του Lateralus είναι και πάλι παρούσα και μου σηκώνει τις τρίχες...
Amnesiac.
27-12-2003, 04:09
jag panzer.
Solo Carriera
27-12-2003, 06:12
http://s88730687.onlinehome.us/insults/stfuposter.jpg
re to schism einai diaskevh? deite edw http://www.avopolis.gr/reviews/results.asp?ID=638
symposium_lexotanil
27-12-2003, 16:42
stompoutsomas
rincewind2k
27-12-2003, 16:43
oxi alla o typas eite einai teleiws kathsterhmenos 'h den kserei ellhnika
Amnesiac.
27-12-2003, 16:56
kai ta 2 vasika.
hm mia parathrhsh, arithmoi fionabachi or whatever, arithmoi se akolouthia opou o kathenas eina athroisma twn dio prohgoumenwn ! an thymamai kala. kala poios kathise kai to anelyse toso poly ? to pio pithano einai na leei kapoios parlapipes - i na bghke epithdes h fhmh gia na promotarei to album. poios kathise kai to anelyse....
agamia detected se auton pou tha kathotan na anakalypsei an ena mousiko kommati akolouthei to golden rule..... pou paizetai ki auto./
To'xera oti tha to vriskes...!Sou xei perasei pote apo to mualo na asxolitheis me tin (apo)kwdikopoihsh?00007 :twisted:
OVERTHINKING,OVERANALYZING,SEPARATES THE BODY FROM THE MIND!
XenoVagrant
28-12-2003, 21:43
Prospathisa poli na katalabo auto to H. Gift alla kai pali mou fainetai trelo. Idiofies an alitheuei alla kai pali aporo pos to skeftike kapoios olo auto.
Giati omos na einai psema afou ta panta alitheuoun? Mia bdomada eleipa diakopes kai eliosa sto cd player mou to Lateralus.. me to alternative order den allaksane polla sigoura.. opos kai na to kanoume to Lateralus paramenei aristourgima.. ti kai an to Aenima einai anotero.. to Lateralus einai poli pio demeno kai san sinolo einai korifi.
Solo Carriera
29-12-2003, 18:05
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1829
na kai allo ena site gia tous fans twn tool. :wink:
rincewind2k
29-12-2003, 20:44
haha epos
grafei o rockavlon sto somethingawful.com? 8)
lost_icon
31-12-2003, 16:09
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1829
na kai allo ena site gia tous fans twn tool. :wink:
mono pou peftei to thapsimo ths arkoudas ekei mesa xwris sto katw katw ths grafhs na exei epixeirhmata (afto mou thymizei rockavlon kai buddy lackey) :lol: opote osa periodika pshfisan to lateralus san ena apo ta kalytera album ths xronias 2001 einai koufoi kai mlkes kai oloi oi tool fans kollhmenoi kathisterhmenoi pou den dexontai tpt,ts ts ts,aei na psofhsoun!!!! :twisted:
opote osa periodika pshfisan to lateralus san ena apo ta kalytera album ths xronias 2001 einai koufoi kai mlkes kai oloi oi tool fans kollhmenoi kathisterhmenoi pou den dexontai tpt,ts ts ts,aei na psofhsoun!!!! :twisted:
akrivws opws to pes. :twisted:
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:16
oi tool fans kollhmenoi kathisterhmenoi pou den dexontai tpt
kathisterimenoi den kserw an einai (kai kaneis den eipe oti einai, thn myga exete mpre?) alla to oti den dexontai tpt fainetai apo oles sou tis antidraseis, mhn magaristoun oi tool, eisai to antistoixo twn manowaradwn (typou dhmakh) vasika ehaheaheh.
epishs gia to "xwris epixeirhmata" e kai egw otan sou elega na mou vreis mia melwdiara 'h mia riffara, ena shmeio anatrixila klp sto lateralus mou eipes ena "den kserw, alla emena maresoun"
oi tool fans kamete san troumetalades me kardia kai zwnaria
pou oloi koroidevete alla idies antidraseis exete , apla gia diaforetika themata.
Amnesiac.
31-12-2003, 19:28
jag panzer.
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:29
jag panzer
e kai egw otan sou elega na mou vreis mia melwdiara 'h mia riffara, ena shmeio anatrixila klp sto lateralus mou eipes ena "den kserw, alla emena maresoun"
Ayto mou thymizei tis malakies pou eipe o Galiatsos (ex Nightfall) sxetika...An thes riffara akou pws teleiwnei to Parabola. H pws arxizei to lateralus. An thes twra catchy mousikh me ena riff na paizei synexeia akolouthoumeno apo ena anousio solo mhn akous Tool.
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:35
tool fans, oi fwnh sas einai o cloud
.-
Amnesiac.
31-12-2003, 19:36
jag panzer fans, de diavazate orthografia otan eisastan mikroi.
nai eimai polloi kai exw mia fwnh vlaka :lol:
DEn katalavainw pantws giati tha prepei na apologhthei kapoios epeidh akouei tool.
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:40
a kai egw pou to grapsa gia na "psofaw me oi "
vlepe gia sixamenous kai kwlofares
yawn.
karpouza.
kai ola ta paromoia (c).
jag panzer fans, de diavazate orthografia otan eisastan mikroi.
bsk hsastan einai...
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:42
kai akoma kai enas tool fan mporei kai na katalavene giati to grapsa to "oi"
alla einai spatalh dianohtikou xronou pou prosferetai stin katanohsh tou lateralus.
Amnesiac.
31-12-2003, 19:45
paw nakousw to lateralus.
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:45
oute esena sou mathane orthografia sto dhmotiko e
gameisai ta. outai sto leikoio.
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:48
e tote jag panzer
Kveldssanger
31-12-2003, 19:53
Ήθελα να ήξερα δε βαριέστε να λέτε τα ίδια και τα ίδια... Αμάν πια... Τουλάχιστον πλακωθείτε για κανένα άλλο συγκρότημα... Φαντάσου να βγάλουν και νέο δίσκο... Νέοι Maidenometallica μας βρήκανε...
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 19:56
kveld afou if you arent into tool, you are not my friend
Απο αυριο κσεκιναμε κοντρα για γουαιτ στραιπς. οποιος γουσταρει μεσα ειμαι :P
opws to pes kveld, egw variemai.
jag panzer kai senane.
kveld afou if you arent into tool, you are not my friend
prwsopika gia mena den isxyei. sovara milaw twra. ola ayta ta grafw (opws kai eseis thelw na pistevw) gia plaka. oti thelei o kathenas akouei.-
Kveldssanger
31-12-2003, 20:04
Εγώ λέω να ξεκινήσουμε κόντρα για το ποιο σουβλατζίδικο κάνει τις καλύτερες πατάτες....
efyge 8) (<== kanw plaka cancer.)
Εγώ λέω να ξεκινήσουμε κόντρα για το ποιο σουβλατζίδικο κάνει τις καλύτερες πατάτες....
Psifizw Pita Pan, ki amesws meta tis xwriatikes tou Aulogurou.
Εγώ λέω να ξεκινήσουμε κόντρα για το ποιο σουβλατζίδικο κάνει τις καλύτερες πατάτες....patates? e eisai fols.
an einai gia souvlatzidiko h kontra 8a ginei gia pio brutal pramata.
gia patates... patafritas. ./.
tool.
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 20:09
spitikes re gaoules
tool.
me kalt anti-tool sws mpantilakispecial \m/
Buddy Lackey
31-12-2003, 20:12
thats tzi mai man
lost_icon
31-12-2003, 23:27
kai akoma kai enas tool fan mporei kai na katalavene giati to grapsa to "oi"
alla einai spatalh dianohtikou xronou pou prosferetai stin katanohsh tou lateralus.
enw oi jag panzer theloun perisoterh katanohsh e? katarxhn den eipa pote oti einai teleioi oi TOOL alla eipa oti paizoun mousikh dikia tous pou kaneis ston planhth den mporei na paiksei,apla kai wraia kai katanohta.kai sthn prokeimenh periptwsh mou aresoun kai otan vlepw asxetous me thn mousikh tous na lene mlkies tote sygxizomai (kai eimai kai se krisimh hlikia).
p.s. mporei gia sena na antidrw san trou metallas alla toulaxiston akouw kai kati allo ektos TOOL, :twisted:
Buddy Lackey
01-01-2004, 17:36
vasika ekana plaka vaie.
epishs oi "antidraseis" ginontai gia afta ta wraia .. "oti paizoun mousikh dikia tous pou kaneis ston planhth den mporei na paiksei"
tespa pame stis french fries pali
me tyri kai mpeikon \m/
kai mustardmayo \m/
h sws mpantisws pou legame \m/
spacedyevest83
06-01-2004, 02:12
Signomi pou diakopto afti ti xaritomeni sizitisi alla:
http://toolshed.down.net/0000.html deite to faq section.
I teleftea ekdosi einai tou 2001?? Giati mou ftanei mexri kai to aenima alla parakato nten...
dyingfreedom
06-01-2004, 02:19
TOOL = Η ΜΕΓΑΛΥΤΕΡΗ ΜΠΑΝΤΑ ΤΟΥ ΠΛΑΝΗΤΗ ΑΥΤΗ ΤΗ ΣΤΙΓΜΗ.
(Οκ για μένα) 8)
Se ogko?
(ok malakia alla mexri stigmhs de lete kai tpt allo, opote eniosa rigmenos)
{NightStalker}
06-01-2004, 21:36
Se paxos?
This is a gay topic.
Akoma ki an sth thesh tou "Tool" valeis kati allo..
Signomi pou diakopto afti ti xaritomeni sizitisi alla:
http://toolshed.down.net/0000.html deite to faq section.
I teleftea ekdosi einai tou 2001?? Giati mou ftanei mexri kai to aenima alla parakato nten...
dunno...sto faq section an ennoeis egw diavazw kai gia to lateralus.
Re seis,pire kati t'afti mou gia DVD Tool...!ALHTHEUEI????
nai. to ainigma einai pote tha kykloforhsei.
spacedyevest83
14-01-2004, 03:26
Signomi pou diakopto afti ti xaritomeni sizitisi alla:
http://toolshed.down.net/0000.html deite to faq section.
I teleftea ekdosi einai tou 2001?? Giati mou ftanei mexri kai to aenima alla parakato nten...
dunno...sto faq section an ennoeis egw diavazw kai gia to lateralus.
Gmt den ksero giati akoma etsi mou to vgazei...An mporesei kapoios na mou to steilei?? Plz?
Sto stelnw sto e-mail sou.
sto esteila se pm giati apo oti fainetai thes na meinei kryfo to e-mail sou. :?
to idio keimeno extended gia opoion (?) endiaferetai gia ta fibonacci sequences. (gia perfect circle psaxnw, se tool peftw :? )\
http://www.bofe.org/overthinking.htm
freak brother
05-02-2005, 11:58
axamn tin kithara pou paizei o broderick den thn paizoun oi tool oute st oneiro tous. auta. anadiertakse twra to lateralus na thn akouseis stereo-fonika. super duper malakies.
xaxaxa
:D
House Of Low Culture
22-03-2005, 13:50
OI TOOL SAS GAMANE!
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
apla .
Buddy Lackey
24-03-2005, 23:49
Oi Tool einai http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/spacelord_g/26587/375646/0/beatles.gif
House Of Low Culture
24-03-2005, 23:54
xexe :)
Oi Tool einai apogonoi ton proton eksoghinon pou pathsan sth gh. H synolikh diarkeia ton kommation tous, de, pros ton arithmo ton stixon tous dinei to "π" me akriveia 1032 dekadikon.
House Of Low Culture
25-03-2005, 03:52
...kai o BLi][zER einai o pio amousos an8rwpos tou planhth.
:rofl: :rofl:
The Nerd
25-03-2005, 03:59
Den agxwnomaste, 8a mas ta pei o kalki ayrio
House Of Low Culture
25-03-2005, 04:00
swsta.
Na prostheso oti to 1032 den einai katholou tyxaio agaphtoi. Kai edo fainetai h theikh fysh tou agaphmenou mas sygkrothmatos (tha kserete fantazomai mexri tora oti den prokeitai gia koinous thnitous). To 1032 loipon einai: 2^10 + (arithmos xarakthron tou 2ou album tous).
Fysika kseroume oti oute ayto einai tyxaio alla tha to analysoume kapoia allh stigmh.
House Of Low Culture
25-03-2005, 04:24
kai ola afta apo enan opetha.
Dhladh :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Ntax..
Rikse mia matia se ola ta fora ton tool kai se ola ton opeth (h opoioudhpote allou group, akoma kai ton manowar). Kai ela pes mou poioi einai pio kathysterhmenoi.
Kovo to laimo mou oti yparxoun atoma edo mesa pou pisteyoun oti to lateralus kryvei th theoria ths sxetikothtas kai oti einai ONTOS "HOLY GIFT".
Mpe.
House Of Low Culture
25-03-2005, 04:31
XAXAXXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX.
Solo Carriera
25-03-2005, 05:00
αποστωμοτική απάντηση. όσο και εμπνευσμένη.
οι τουλφάνζ είναι για μούτζες, όντως. και δεν μιλάω για εκείνους που κατακλύζουν τα fora αλλά για άτομα που έχω γνωρίσει και έχω μιλήσει αρκετά μαζί τους για μουσική. οι "εγώ, οι tool και κανείς άλλος" τύποι. ιου.
daydreamer
25-03-2005, 11:45
Ρε τι σκατά σας έχει πιάσει και τσιγκλάτε το σύμπαν για ακόμη ένα tool-flame?
Το Lateralus είναι Holy Gift γιατί οι Tool είναι θεοί ρε!!
...και για του λόγου το αληθές:
http://kwago.com/files/MJK%20Jesus.jpg
oi tool einai 2536 etwn kai apla perimenan thn anakalupsh tou cd, tou wav kai twn mp3, outws wste mono oi katoxoi tou gnhsiou cd na mathoun to mustiko tou kosmou, kai osoi to exoun se mp3 h tolmhsan na to kanoun .wav na sterhthoun ths polutimhs gnwshs.
ws highlight paratithetai: " Ever notice how everyone who has lost or broken that cd has IMMEDIATELY gone out and bought a new copy? I know I have"
hahaha, einai theos o tupos
eyeamflesch
25-03-2005, 19:03
Taspase o The Nerd.
daydreamer
26-03-2005, 00:51
Taspase o The Nerd.
και οι Tool το είχανε προβλέψει...
"I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them tumble down
no fault, none to blame it doesn't mean I don't desire to
point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over.
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication."
UmbilicalResidue
26-03-2005, 13:38
To en logw ar8raki an 8ymamai kala dhmosiefthke prwth
fora se kapoio newsgroup gia tous tool (isws to alt.tool)
kai amesws prokalese arketikh ais8hsh me arketes mirror
selides kai anadhmosievseis sto toolshed.down.net .
Diavaste to. Sthrizei enan oloklhro xaotiko syllogismo
panw sthn protash : "a puzzle that a friend of mine had
read about somewhere on the internet."
Sta shmeia pou prepei na aitiologhsei kapws to ti leei, anaferei
kai pali oti kapws etsi 8ymamai oti mou eixe pei o filos
pou kapou eixe diavasei sto net oti hsane ta pragmata
kai ksanapeftei sto xaos.
To post exei sxoliastei apo to toolband.com ws pipa
kai h ypo8esh afora merikous xardavellikous fans.
Apo kei kai pera oi stixoi tou Lateralis eksakolou8oun
na einai domhmenoi sthn akolou8ia Fibonacci ws gnwston
gia allous logous. Gia tous ypoloipous ta eipame sto
prosfata kleidwmeno thread.
Kleidwste to.
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