Pio yperktimimeno kai pio adikimeno group (metal) [Archive]

WoTaN

08-08-2003, 15:03

Evala to metal stin parenthesi gia na eksigoumaste giati an den to evaza tha vlepame xilia dio groups sto topic asxeta me metal.
To loipon,poio group thewreite perisotero Uperktimimeno kai pio perisotero adikimeno?

Gia mena pio yperktimimeno group einai xalara oi Metallica kai tha eksigisw tous logous.
1.Oposdipote exoun 3 megales diskares (Kill,Ride kai Master)
Apo ekei kai pera arxise to telma.Evgalan ena metrio justice for all me athlia paragwgi kai metries sintheseis,sigritika panta me tis proigoumenes kiklofories tous,eidika se mia epoxi poy auto poy epezan pisteuw mesouranouse.
2.Deutero telma Black Album.Anamfisvitita einai enas polly kalos diskos me theiki paragwgi ton opoio omos den tha mporousa na katatasw 100% sto metal.Arage exete paratirisei to crossover riff tou Sad But True?
3.Oi metepeita douleies tous me apokorifwma to teleutaio ksevrasma tous.

Pio adikimeno group?
Edw ta pragmata einai diskola..
Polla groups einai adikimena..Metaxy twn Manilla Road kai Cirith Ungol tha epilexw mallon to proto.
Manilla Road:12 diskoi,toulaxiston 6 ogolithoi gia to eidos.Exoun pexei apo space rock mexri thrash metal.Foveroi mousikoi,eilikrinis kai timioi,gnwstes autou poy ekanan.Omos kinithikan stin afaneia kai sto underground...Isws fteei i xwra tous isws ftene oi peristaseis isws den xerw kai go ti.An kai oi teleutaies tous douleies den moy lene tpt parola auta sta matia moy sigoura tha einai to pio adikimeno group.

enitharmon

08-08-2003, 15:18

adikimeno group apo olous esas einai oi Nightfall!!! :D

Solo Carriera

08-08-2003, 16:03

2.Deutero telma Black Album.Anamfisvitita einai enas polly kalos diskos me theiki paragwgi ton opoio omos den tha mporousa na katatasw 100% sto metal.Arage exete paratirisei to crossover riff tou Sad But True?

LoL, to manifesto tou kolimenou metalla. Re afou h mousikh, opws les kai sy, einai poly kalh ti se noiazei se poia katigoria empiptei to album???

Kala, proswpika den mou kegetai karfi. Kako diko sou.

YperEktimimenoi: oles oi monternes potapes mpantes pou ginontai eksofylla se rocksound, kerrang kai loipa periodika. Apo tous good charlotte kai tin avril lavinge stous linkin park kai tous limp bizkit.

Ypotimimenoi? Ypotimimenoi apo poion? Apo tous metallades? Grunge, alternative, punk, hc, trip hop etc.

:disco:

Cheerz!

PS: To eida to "(metal)" sto topic alla eimai spasiklas :disco:

WoTaN

08-08-2003, 19:13

Den einai oti to album den mou aresei.Pros theou.Allwste mazi me to kill em all einai ta mona authentika metallica poy exw.Alla pisteuw einai ligo kai ektos nerwn gia ena group poy exei grapsei ena master of puppets.
As mi meinei i kouventa girw apo tous metallica giati tha arxisoume pali ta flame kai mpla mpla mpla.
Auti itan i prosopiki moy ypokeimeniki (:rolleyes: ) gnwmi.

lost_icon

08-08-2003, 19:39

Apo ekei kai pera arxise to telma.Evgalan ena metrio justice for all me athlia paragwgi kai metries sintheseis,sigritika panta me tis proigoumenes kiklofories tous,eidika se mia epoxi poy auto poy epezan pisteuw mesouranouse.

agaphte mporei ta load-reload-st.anger na apogohtevoun pollous alla oxi oti to and justice einai metrio apla oi metallica panta peiramatizotan me kainouria pragmata ston hxo tous kai sto katw katw ths grafhs yparxei kapoio kako kommati sto and justice..? mono na anaferw to pasignwsto kai theiko ONE ftanei

2.Deutero telma Black Album.Anamfisvitita einai enas polly kalos diskos me theiki paragwgi ton opoio omos den tha mporousa na katatasw 100% sto metal.Arage exete paratirisei to crossover riff tou Sad But True?

to black album einai teleio apo kathe apopsh,kai pistevw oti einai metal,ena holier than thou kai ena through the never se ti kathgoria ta katatasoume? se rock?:p

rincewind2k

08-08-2003, 19:58

An oi Manilla Road epaiksan mexri kai space rock tote pws einai ypotimhmenh "metal" mpanta? (afou esy epimeneis toso aysthra ston orismo "metal")

To riff tou Sad But True einai crossover anamesa se soudikh folk kai kinezikh jazz?

Auti itan i prosopiki moy ypokeimeniki gnwmi.

now you're talkin'.

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 01:40

Eipame einai diki moy prosopiki ypokimeniki gnwmi.Twra apantiseis thelete?

An oi Manilla Road epaiksan mexri kai space rock tote pws einai ypotimhmenh "metal" mpanta?

Ela nte!Auto thelw na mathw kai go :p

cancer

09-08-2003, 02:22

Mercyful_Fate_666

09-08-2003, 13:28

Metallica kicks ass. :jark:

Yperketimimeno?? xm.... mporei na ferei polles antidraseis, alla emena oi Manowar den mou gemizoun toso poly to mati re gmt. Tous briskw ftoxous mousika. Einai mia poly kali mpanta alla.... den kserw... pote den mou aresan st'alitheia (ektos bebaia apo 3-4 kommatia opws to katapliktiko Hail and Kill kai Courage-kai oxi to Carry On). Tespa, den thelw na arxisoume antilogies gyrw apo manowar, apla einai panta i diki mou ypokeimeniki apopsi (apo allon to pira auto :PPP:p ).
Pio adikimeno? Polla underground groups einai adikimena, afou menoun se sxetiki afanei. Apo ta gnwsta twra, thewrw tous Kamelot adikimenous (oxi aparaitita perissotero apo allous), dioti den eixan tin proboli pou tha eprepe. Pantos yparxoun kai alla adikimena groups pou mou diafeugoun twra.

FIXXXER

09-08-2003, 14:03

Nai, to Justice einai metrio album... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Kata tin prosopiki mou upokeimeniki apopsi to Justice einai 65:42 teleiotitas.

Uperektimimeno: Iron Maiden. Oxi oti exo tipota me to group, isa isa pou mou aresoun para polla kommatia tous, apla diafono me ti nootropia tous i opoia dustuxos apokleiei kathe periptosis kukloforias enos album to opoio tha taraxei ta nera... otan evgazan to Somewhere In Time eixan pragmatika oistro, tora pleon de xero giati, alla ta metriotata Virtual XI kai Brave New World se sunduasmo me to polu kalo X Factor to opoio exei athlia fonitika me exoun apogoiteusei, eidika meta to Fear Of The Dark to opoio einai sigoura polu upotimimeno kai polu kalutero apo kati No Prayer For The Dying ki apo ta prota 3-4 tous kata ti gnomi mou.... Anyway, ousiastika tous theoro polu kalutero group apo alla tis seiras, alla parola auta de tous theoro oso theous oso tous parousiazoun merikoi...

Upotimimeno: Paradise Lost. Oti exoun kanei gamaei.

Nile

09-08-2003, 18:15

Uperektimimeno: Iron Maiden
No comment...

Upotimimeno: Paradise Lost. Oti exoun kanei gamaei
Oti exoun kanei ? Poia , ta prwta pou itan san apotyximeno melwdiko death metal h' ta teleytaia pou einai pop-goth ?
Ena Icon ante kai ena Draconian einai oi Paradise Lost.Ola ta ypoloipa einai apla metriothtes.

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 18:33

Polly yperektimimenoi oi iron maiden,exontas epireasei sxedon ta panta.

Kveldssanger

09-08-2003, 18:56

Oti exoun kanei ? Poia , ta prwta pou itan san apotyximeno melwdiko death metal h' ta teleytaia pou einai pop-goth ?
Ena Icon ante kai ena Draconian einai oi Paradise Lost.Ola ta ypoloipa einai apla metriothtes.

An exaireseis to Lost Paradise (poy den akougetai), to Believe In Nothing (pou einai psilometrio) kai to Symbol Of Life (pou einai apla kalo, an kai periexei to theiko Xavier), ta ypoloipa album ton P.L. einai apsoga. Ta Gothic kai Shades Of God apotyximeno melodiko death metal? Ego toulaxisto den to nomizo... Alla kai ta Host kai One Second poy einai pio electro einai para poly kala albums...

Nile

09-08-2003, 19:02

Nai , nai , to Host einai diskara!RESPECT!ROFL!!!

After Dark

09-08-2003, 19:26

Pio yperektimhmenoi:Iced Earth(mono sthn Ellada prepei na tous akoun tosoi polloi).
Pio ypotimhmenoi:Eimai dixasmenos metaksy Coroner kai Depressive Age.Dunno.

cancer

09-08-2003, 20:37

pio ipotimimenoi d-age.

ta prota pl ine doom/death pou den akougetai (to lost paradise kai to shades de mporo na ta akouso). apo kei kai pera gamane, kai to symbol ine apsogo, kai genika ine apo tis poly ksexoristes mpantes sto metal.

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 22:49

Episis polly adikimena einai arketa doom metal groups,gia na min pw ta perisotera.

Kveldssanger

09-08-2003, 23:09

Episis polly adikimena einai arketa doom metal groups,gia na min pw ta perisotera.

Trouble, Solitude Aeternus, St. Vitus klp?

symposium_lexotanil

09-08-2003, 23:49

ti allo tha doun ta matia mas...
yperektimimenoi oi metallica?
apotyximenoi oi paradise lost?

eidika ekeino to sxolio peri apotyximenou melodikou death metal,se mia epoxi pou den yfistato kan tetoios oros,ito ola ta lefta.
ante vre kai eis anotera.

episis oi manilla road giati einai ypotimimenoi?
theorountai apo olous tous METALADES groupara kai einai anamfisvitoi vasiliades tou underground trou epik xevimetal.se auto to koino apeuthynontai kai apo auto to koino latreuontai.eides pote emena na paraponiemai pou den paizei to mad kathe mera ntarkthron?

:chef:

symposium_lexotanil

09-08-2003, 23:51

ante na poume kai kati asxeto me to topik.
ypotimimenous (apo tin apopsi oti den eginan toso gnostoi oso tha mporousan logw tis mousikis pou epezan) theoro tous depressive age kai yperektimimenous tous opeth

Kveldssanger

09-08-2003, 23:52

latreuontai.eides pote emena na paraponiemai pou den paizei to mad kathe mera ntarkthron?

:chef:

A bit asxeto alla den peirazei... Telika tha akoustoun kai tragoudia ton Darkthrone live mia fora... Tha anevei o Nocturno Culto me tou Satyricon sti skini kai tha paixoun kai tragoudia tou agapimenou sou sygrotimatos... O mr. Fenriz tha ektelei xrei dj

WoTaN

10-08-2003, 00:02

Xmm oi manilla pisteuw einai megalo group kai latreuontai apoklistika omos apo mia merida heavy metaladwn (polloi ligwn sxetika me oson akoune metal).Pisteyw tha mporousan na itan pio 'gnwstoi'

symposium_lexotanil

10-08-2003, 00:05

starxidiamas ti pisteueis :disco:

cancer

10-08-2003, 00:06

ksekoliste me tous pipeth mou mi sas gamiso tpt

WoTaN

10-08-2003, 00:14

:( :(

Solo Carriera

10-08-2003, 02:36

ksinete patto(n)

oloi.

:rainbow:

BLiTzER

10-08-2003, 12:40

Originally posted by WoTaN [B]
Gia mena pio yperktimimeno group einai xalara oi Metallica kai tha eksigisw tous logous.
1.Oposdipote exoun 3 megales diskares (Kill,Ride kai Master)
Apo ekei kai pera arxise to telma.Evgalan ena metrio justice for all me athlia paragwgi kai metries sintheseis,sigritika panta me tis proigoumenes kiklofories tous,eidika se mia epoxi poy auto poy epezan pisteuw mesouranouse.

Kat'arxas oi MetallicA OTIDHPOTE kerdisan to kataferan me thn aksia tous ksekinontas kyriolektika apo to mhden.

To "Kill" den einai kai toso megalh diskara ousiastika. Alla einai moda pleon na ymnoume ta prota albums enos group. Meta oloi floreyoun.

Metrio "Justice", metries syntheseis. Karalol! To "Justice" einai diskara kai gemato peiramatismous apo thn arxh os to telos. Isos to aytaki sou den exei ksanakousei "paraksena" metra :) Oso gia to ti mesouranouse ekeinh thn epoxh kai to ti mesouranei KATHE epoxh, de nomizo oti tous ekaige idiaitera.

H paragogh den einai katholou athlia kai kovo to laimo mou oti to les mono kai mono epeidh to diavases/akouses kapou. Den einai "Black Album", alla oxi kai "athlia"!

[B]2.Deutero telma Black Album.Anamfisvitita einai enas polly kalos diskos me theiki paragwgi ton opoio omos den tha mporousa na katatasw 100% sto metal.Arage exete paratirisei to crossover riff tou Sad But True?

To "Black Album" einai apla to metro sygkrishs gia KATHE paragogh apo to 91 kai meta. Gia to an einai metal h oxi den aksizei na anafertho kan, oute gia to an einai kalos diskos.

[B]3.Oi metepeita douleies tous me apokorifwma to teleutaio ksevrasma tous.

To "Load" einai diskara, to "Reload" metrio kai to "St. Anger" epishs metrio. So? An akoma perimeneis apo tous Metz na vgazoun "Puppets" eseis exete to provlhma ki oxi ekeinoi. De tha yparksei tpt sygklonistiko sto mellon, that's for sure. Apla kathe fora tha kanoun kati diaforetiko...

PS: Oxi metallades ki edo re pousth. Aytos htan o logos pou efyga apo to akatanomasto.

symposium_lexotanil

10-08-2003, 13:02

ti na kanoume,xriazontai ki autoi.
prepei na yparxei enas antilogos,estw kai geloios

Dragonlord

10-08-2003, 13:04

they breed :(

cancer

10-08-2003, 13:17

oxi allous metallica, metallica kai metallica.

pantos kala ta eipe o blitzer. an kai o wotan den kollaei se kati tetoia.

eRaseR

10-08-2003, 13:23

Iced Earth yperektimhmenoi...apo dark saga kai meta paizoun to idio pragma,ftanei.. proswpika m'aresoun,giati einai kai to group me to opoio kollhsa sth metal,alla me tipota den ajizoun th 8esh pou exoun...

ypotimhmena..hmm Solitude Aeturnus (kai genika pera apo tous Candlemass,poio doom group exei anagnwrish?)
de jerw vasika,variemai..

oso gia osous lene tous Opeth yperektimhmenous,kai na mhn sas aresei h mousikh tous,skefteite ligo ti kanan...

Ghoul

10-08-2003, 13:38

Ypotimhmena ola ta doom (-- candlemass)/sludge/hardcore sxhmata kai fysika oi psychotic waltz
Yperektimhmenoi sthn ellada toulaxistwn sigoura oi i.earth

WoTaN

10-08-2003, 13:40

Kat'arxas oi MetallicA OTIDHPOTE kerdisan to kataferan me thn aksia tous ksekinontas kyriolektika apo to mhden.

Nai sigoura katalisteuontas tous Diamond Head oti nwobhm ipirxe tote kai oti bay area thrash ipirxe (exodus ktl)
As min anaferthw sto poios egrapse olo to Kill Em All kai to miso Ride.

To "Justice" einai diskara kai gemato peiramatismous apo thn arxh os to telos.

Xmmm peiramatismous stin paragwgi isws na exei opos kai to teleutaio metallica?Stis sintheseis?xmm as gelasw.Siga min einai kai progressive album.

Tespa den exei simasia o antilogos.To an einai geloios i oxi den tha to krinoun 5,10 asxetoi me to heavy metal.(sympo den anaferomai se sena apoklistika mias kai kserw oti den se noiazei kai polly an exeis sxesi i oxi me auto :P).
Simasia exei na leei o kathenas tin gnwmi tou eleuthera.

enitharmon

10-08-2003, 13:45

ti ekanan? :confused:

enitharmon

10-08-2003, 13:46

oi Opeth ennow...

cancer

10-08-2003, 13:47

necro mas douleueis telika, e?
iparxoun progressive pou den exoun peiramatismous kai black pou einai tigka ston pio periergo peiramatismo, pou 8a skeftotan proodeutika miala pou den iparxoun sto xwro tou prog.
fisika, anamenomeni apantisi.

auta peri diamond head ennoeitai pos den ta xeis diapistosei idiois <dotiki plithintikou tou ousiastikou auti, sta arxaia> (tromera nteforme), apla ta arpakses apo do ki apo kei kai ta anaparageis.

WoTaN

10-08-2003, 14:05

Nai ta arpaxa apo ta skoupidia freska nea.
Ela poy den to ixeres akoma kai su :disco:

The_Painless

10-08-2003, 14:12

Uperektimhmeno....sumfwnw me auton pou eipe oti sthn Ellada toulaxiston einai oi Iced Earth.
Adikhmenoi....Psychotic Waltz kai Fates Warning.

cancer

10-08-2003, 14:13

an 8eoreitai gnosi i afomoiosi kai anaparagogi twn legomenwn tou warlord kai tou k.k. rockavlon (i opoiodipote allou), tote to iksera. alla epeidi den exo akousei diamond head i alla nwobhm groups se tetoio va8mo oste na mporo na diapistoso monos mou tis klopes gia tis opoies milas, nomizo pos mallon den to iksera.

thanks pou mou to ma8es, pantws.

symposium_lexotanil

10-08-2003, 18:29

xm nekro pistepse me den eimai kai toso asxetos me to heavy metal oso thelo na fainomai epeidi kati typoi me tis apopseis sou kai ti nootropia sou me kanoun na ntrepomai na leo oti eimai metalas.tespa i alitheia einai oti pote den diekdikisa metalopaterika aksiomata kai anagrafi tou onomatos mou sto xevimetal pantheon,alla dyo tria pramatakia ta ksero,etsi oste na krino monos mou kapoia pragmata pou esena sou fainontai eite eukolws ennooumena,eite adianoita.
ante geia mas.

me timi
o apoprosanotolismenos

WoTaN

10-08-2003, 18:37

xmou exoun pei tetoia pragmata ta en logo atoma?den to ixera eilikrina.
Otan lew na to ikseres enoousa na to eixes akousei.

sympouli min moy thimwneis mwrouli :disco: :disco:

VirusXI

10-08-2003, 20:24

cancer

11-08-2003, 01:24

mia diaskeui sto am i evil exo akousei. kai to kill em all pou de maresei exei epirroes apo nwobhm (an kai de dilono fanatikos tou eidous). gia ksepatikwmata den ksero.

ta eipan pampolles fores, psakse kai 8a breis

eRaseR

11-08-2003, 11:25

Oso gia tous Opeth,gnwmh mou einai oti kanan kati monadiko,dhladh kommatia pou pantrevoun prog me death (ontas parallhla atmosfairikoi),kai pistevw pio poly 8a tairiaze se aftous to progressive death para se bandes typou Death,Cynic klp. (den tous ypotimw,pros 8eou-allo style ekeinoi)
Exoun kai ta 2 eidh fwnhtikwn,me enallages se ka8e sxedon tragoudi (ermhneumena teleia kai ta 2)..grafoun makroskeleis syn8eseis me apeires allages mesa,pou omws par'ola afta den kourazoun...kai evgalan kai to Damnation pou einai se pio rock fash kai epishs rulez ;)

afta :redwink:

ntaks kai pali opinion einai!:chef:

BLiTzER

11-08-2003, 13:04

O skatofloros o Necroslaughter einai? hmm :)

An vreis epirroes apo NWOBHM meta to "Kill" tha katso na me gamhseis (gi'ayto eipa oti telika to ntempouto tous den einai kai toso diskara).

Nai to "Justice" einai oti pio progressive exoun grapsei pote oi MetallicA kai NAI exei polla progressive stoixeia.

@eRaseR: Oraia ksekinhses, meta tou allakses ta fota ligo :P Oi Opeth kanoun ontos kati monadiko kai tha kanoun onoma gi'ayto. Gia mena einai oi MetallicA ths dekaetias mas.

Den tous theoro prog death (ta 4 teleytaia ton Death gia mena einai o orismos tou prog death) kai de mporo na tous katatakso opoudhpote allou. Kanoun kati entelos diko tous (opos oi MetallicA meta to ntempouto tous). To shmantiko einai oti exoun 4 poly kalous mousikous kai organopaixtes kai denoun arketa eidh mousikhs apsoga xoris na ginontai kourastikoi kai xoris na epanalamvanoun xiliopaigmena riffs. O Akerfeldt einai zontano paradeigma tou oti yparxei akoma perithorio na paikseis nea pragmata pano se ena organo pou to exoun lyosei edo kai merikes dekaeties.

To "Damnation" htan apla ena "tribute" sta groups pou tous exoun ephrreasei ola ayta ta xronia. Den einai etsi tyxaia ena album "se pio rock fash" :)

VirusXI

11-08-2003, 13:24

ntaks, to "kati teleiws diko tous" einai kati to sxetiko.
xiliopaigmena oxi alla prwtotypa riffs? h apanthsh einai Blakkheim.
enallages fwnhtikwn? h apanthsh einai My Dying Bride kai 234234 alloi
analogh atmosfaira? alloi tosoi 2323423

yperektimimenoi indeed.

WoTaN

11-08-2003, 13:49

Den apantaw ston filtato bliz mias kai egw an imoun sto FC twn metallica ta idia tha elega.
Btw exw ena project tou Akerfeldt poy legete Steel exoun ena ep kai pezoun klasiko acceptiko heavy metal.4 kommatia \m/

cancer

11-08-2003, 14:30

FIXXXER

11-08-2003, 14:39

Den apantaw ston filtato bliz mias kai egw an imoun sto FC twn metallica ta idia tha elega.

Dustuxos mallon de boreis na xehoriseis tin aitia kai to apotelesma. Einai olofanero oti o Blitzer anikei sto FC ton Metallica epeidi theorei oti i mousiki tous gamaei. Tha itan polu ilithio na theorei oti gamane, epeidi anikei sto FC. Xereis, prota erxetai i aitia, kai meta to apotelesma. Lathos sou ta pane.

cancer

11-08-2003, 14:40

egrapse o mikros.

enitharmon

11-08-2003, 14:40

eksakolouthw na eimai apo tous ligous stous opoious den aresoun oi Opeth... mporei na m'aresoun otan megalwsw...

Dragonlord

11-08-2003, 15:04

ontws,polloi xanoun to gousto tous me ta xronia

well tespa,j/k,whatever shakes your boat (or beer).egw exw prospa8hsei 2-3 fores na tous proseggisw,mou fanhkan apelpistika adiaforoi,sxedon se epipeda in flames.an kai mallon pio ekneuristikoi ka8oti pio klapsomounhdes.ena kommati pou akousa apo to damnation epitelous to vrhka *sympa8htiko*,8a mporousa mallon na ri3w merikes euxaristes akroaseis sto album.
kata ta alla :dsleep:

np slipknot - me in side

Kveldssanger

11-08-2003, 15:09

Oute kai emena me enthousiazoun idiaitera oi Opeth (me exairesi to Damnation)... An egrafan kalytera "tragoudia" kai oxi apla mousikes enotites, isos na mou aresan perissoteroi... Isos ta kollitilikia me ton Wilson na tous strosoun se ayto to tomea... Peri tou mainstream status tous (pou anefere o cancer), sigoura den einai kako mia tetoia mpanta na gnorizei epityxia...

symposium_lexotanil

11-08-2003, 16:33

ok.alloi dyo treis pou na theoroun tous opeth varetous kai apisteuta yperektimimenous kai tha kanoume antifanclub.

xm
i mipos na grafto ki ego se kana fan club ton opeth kai na arxiso na ektimo ti mousiki tous kai na leo kala logia??oi syntages tou nekrosloter synithos exoun apotelesma!!!
:))))))))))))))))))))))))

WoTaN

11-08-2003, 18:44

Dustuxos mallon de boreis na xehoriseis tin aitia kai to apotelesma. Einai olofanero oti o Blitzer anikei sto FC ton Metallica epeidi theorei oti i mousiki tous gamaei. Tha itan polu ilithio na theorei oti gamane, epeidi anikei sto FC. Xereis, prota erxetai i aitia, kai meta to apotelesma. Lathos sou ta pane.

Nai den diafwnw me ta legomena sou,omos otan kapoios einai se ena FC akoma kai an kati den tou aresei apo to group den einai kai oti pio eukolo na to pei.

FIXXXER

11-08-2003, 19:11

Ara upotheto oti esy xereis kalutera apo ton Blitzer an tou aresei kati. Ti ilithios pou niotho tora.

Dragonlord

11-08-2003, 19:46

ma den exeis akousei ta frixta vasanisthria sta opoia ypovalloun ta melh oi ypeu8ynoi twn fan clubs an poun kati arnhtiko gia to ekastote group?

After Dark

11-08-2003, 22:28

ma den exeis akousei ta frixta vasanisthria sta opoia ypovalloun ta melh oi ypeu8ynoi twn fan clubs an poun kati arnhtiko gia to ekastote group?
Oi aythadiazontes akoun demenoi se karekla Cirith Ungol kai Dytikes Synoikies.:disco:

lost_icon

11-08-2003, 22:43

to pio yperekthmhmeno einai oi OPETH,nai men paizoun ta kerata tous nai men to ena nai men to allo alla gia mena ousia sthn mousikh tous den yparxei kai to pio adikhmeno einai oi SOLITUDE AETURNUS,ena group pou fysika den exei kanei epityxia logw tou oti anhkei se ena eidos antiemporiko (doom metal) alla opoios den tous exei akousei pote as tsekarei olh thn diskografia tous (an vrei tpt se cd xixixixi).:D

VirusXI

11-08-2003, 23:11

ante na r8oun gia live na ginoun firmes sta geramata

:disco: :disco: :disco: :disco: :disco:

symposium_lexotanil

12-08-2003, 13:14

xm
den ksero gia ekso,alla stin ellada xairoun akras ektimisis oi en logw kyrioi.
ego ena album tous exo,to adagio,to akousa arketes fores otan to pira alla den mporo na po oti mou kane klik.theiki i diaskeui sto heaven and heall pantws.

VirusXI

12-08-2003, 13:18

siga thn ektimhsh pou xairoun...
8a deiksei sta live i suppose

symposium_lexotanil

12-08-2003, 13:21

xm ti na sou po..
ego den exo akousei apo kanenan metria sxolia.
kai oxi mono apo doomades.
tespa
pare ena sef :chef:

Dragonlord

12-08-2003, 13:26

ye einai apo ta group pou oloi 8ewroun gamata alla ligoi ta akoun..san ton kwstantopoulo ena prama pou einai sta8era prwtos pio dhmofilhs politikos arxhgos sta gkalop kai den ton pshfizei kaneis

VirusXI

12-08-2003, 13:29

xm ti na sou po..
ego den exo akousei apo kanenan metria sxolia.
kai oxi mono apo doomades.
tespa
pare ena sef :chef:

ntaks standar 8etika sxolia giati einai groupara :D
alla milame gia posothta kai poiothta lol
ektimhmenoi apo ligous dhladhs, ara einai adikhmenoi

antapodidw ena chef giati eisai kaloulis shmeris
:chef:

cancer

12-08-2003, 14:20

to adagio einai to klasiko plires album pou exei kala tragoudia, 8a prepe na aresei poly ston akroati, alla epeidi kourazei stin poreia auto de simvainei (milao ek peiras :D).

BLiTzER

12-08-2003, 18:28

Den katalabaino pou briskoun polloi tin omoiotita twn opeth me tous palious amorphis kai tous katatonia (ok moiazoun, alla oxi toso pia).
Pisteuo pos oi opeth einai kiriws empneusmenoi apo edge of sanity, ki exoun "mpoliasei" tis epirroes tous me poly poly petiximeno tropo. To oti einai sxetika mainstream isws na enoxlei autous pou tous krazoun. whatev.

Oi Katatonia einai kouloi kai yperklapsomounhdes mexri ahdias kai to mono sovaro album pou evgalan pote htan me ton Akerfeldt sta fonhtika (vlepe Brave Murder Day). Safos kai den yparxei kamia sxesh metaksy ton 2 groups kai aporo pos kanoun parea tosa xronia.

Oi Opeth den einai klapsomounhdes se kamia periptosh kai epishs den tous theoro mainstream. Posoi "mainstream" opadoi akoune Opeth? Ego osous ksero einai atoma pou akougan atmosfairikh anyway kai pali den exoun toso easy-listening mousikh. An ta 10lepta kommatia me tis karadeath brutalies ginontai mainstream apo 4 lepta "katharon" riffs kai fonhtikon, tote ok :) Mhn ksexname oti mexri prin 3 xronia den tous iksere kaneis oute san onoma. Me thn idia logikh htan mainstream kai to Puppets... hmmm..

@WoTaN: Des re karagkiozh ti leo gia to St. Anger prin anoikseis to gamhmeno to stoma sou :P Mia xara krish exo kai an eimai sto MetClub den einai epeidh ektimo afantasta tis teleytaies douleies tous.

lost_icon

12-08-2003, 19:12

Oi Katatonia einai kouloi kai yperklapsomounhdes mexri ahdias kai to mono sovaro album pou evgalan pote htan me ton Akerfeldt sta fonhtika (vlepe Brave Murder Day). Safos kai den yparxei kamia sxesh metaksy ton 2 groups kai aporo pos kanoun parea tosa xronia.

blitzer den einai oloi coroner,alla mporei oi katatonia gia sena na einai kouloi kai klapsomounides alla gia rwta gia poio logo aresoun san group se aftous pou tous akoun,to discouraged ones einai apo ta kalytera deigmata tou legomenou gothic metal kai exei OUSIA kai oxi anousia anevokatevasmata ths tastieras,kai les oti kanoun parea tosa xronia xexexe!,les oi opeth na arxisoun na paizoun san tous axrhstous tous katatonia?:D

symposium_lexotanil

12-08-2003, 20:41

Safos kai den yparxei kamia sxesh metaksy ton 2 groups kai aporo pos kanoun parea tosa xronia.

yeh ki ego apofeygo na kano parea me koulous paixtes,eidika tora teleytaia pou akousa stis eidiseis tou star me to giorgo liagka oti einai kollitiko kai teinei na parei diastaseis epidimias stis xores tou makrinou vora.
xm tora pou to ksanaskeftomai,mipos giauto to logo me apofeugoun oloi teleutaiws?
tespa tha deiksei.

blitz oi katatonia giauto mas aresoun.giati einai kouloi kai klapsomounides kai vgazoun theika albums.kai to brave murder day einai ontos theiko (to agapimeno mou katatonia) alla de nomizo oti i poiotita tou ofeiletai sta ksera fonitika tou akerfelnt.
ante geia mas

trava akou opeth

cancer

13-08-2003, 01:10

katatonia ta prota einai 8eika. ta teleutaia me kseneronoun afantasta.
Stin erotisi "posoi mainstream opadoi akoune opeth?" i apantisi einai "arketoi ews polloi, pleon" (auto de meionei tin aksia tous). alla as min ethelotifloume.

symposium_lexotanil

13-08-2003, 01:13

ta teleutaia legontas?
ta teleutaia 2?
ta teleutaia 3?
ta teleutaia 4?
ta teleutaia?

cancer

13-08-2003, 01:30

opws ksereis den eimai kai o trelos fan tou group. alla mallon apo to tonights decision 8a lega oti bariemai, gia na min po apo to discouraged kai me kraksete.

symposium_lexotanil

13-08-2003, 01:32

tespa
to thema mas einai oti oi opeth einai varetoi kai yperektimimenoi.
mi ksefeugoume e

Retali-ator

13-08-2003, 02:44

Ego pisteuo oti ypotimimenos einai o Mortiis kathos kai arketoi alloi mousikoi apo ta voreia.Oi anthropoi edosan nea diastasi sto epic metal kai omos tous agnooume tosa xronia meta.
Oi Iron Maiden sigoura exoun parei perissotera ap'osa axizoun.Pera apo 2 diskous pou vgikan tin katallili stigmi gia na tous kanoun diasimous,den exoun prosferei kai tpt allo.

symposium_lexotanil

13-08-2003, 12:46

ki alloi apo ta voreia?
opos?
enslaved px?

BLiTzER

13-08-2003, 15:05

blitz oi katatonia giauto mas aresoun.giati einai kouloi kai klapsomounides kai vgazoun theika albums.kai to brave murder day einai ontos theiko (to agapimeno mou katatonia) alla de nomizo oti i poiotita tou ofeiletai sta ksera fonitika tou akerfelnt.
ante geia mas

trava akou opeth

E an se sygkinei h mousikh ton Katatonia einai logiko na mh sou aresoun oi Opeth. Den antexei tis riffies to kefali sou :PP

Sto thema mas, nomizeis dld oti einai tyxaio oti o Akerfeldt symmeteixe se ENA mono album tous kai ayto einai to koryfaio tous. Kala :)

cancer

13-08-2003, 15:06

simmeteixe o akerfeldt sti sinthesi tou album?

symposium_lexotanil

13-08-2003, 15:11

BartSimpson666

13-08-2003, 20:07

Yperktimimeno: Ma fysika oi "allhtarades" Nevermore me ton "arxiallhtara" Dane pou meta tous theous sanctuary thn eide o rock-metal-star-gamaw-thn pinw antras tous sympantos

Adikhmena yparxoun polla alla gia na mhn adikhsw kanena allo pio adikhmeno den anaferw.

PS> O AKERFELDT exei symmetasxei kai se kati ep twn katatonia opws to For The Funerals To Came

symposium_lexotanil

13-08-2003, 20:48

opos eipe kai o filtatos kouremenos augos oi nevermore einai toso rok stars pou anagkazontai na afinoun to group tous gia na eksaskoun parallila kai tis kanonikes douleies tous (an ontos isxyei kati tetoio,ego den to ksero).

Amnesiac.

13-08-2003, 22:56

kala re den ksereis oti o dane einai :chef: ???
(xwris plaka)

enitharmon

13-08-2003, 23:04

se ena italiko restaurant sto Seattle an den kane lathos

BLiTzER

14-08-2003, 01:01

nai
i alithia einai oti den antexo me tpt ta avysalea riffs ton opeth kai ta ktinodi fonitika tou akerfelnt.matonoun ta autia mou kai o egkefalos mou.
episis mia alli geniki alithia einai oti an akous katatonia eisai katadikasmenos se akroaseis metriotiton gia oli sou ti zoi.

trava akou opeth tora

Symp rulez :P

Btw, oxi de symmeteixe sth synthesh, apla ekane ta fonhtika. An symmeteixe synthetika tha yphrxan perissotera apo 6 riffs se oloklhro to album....

Newsted

14-08-2003, 01:34

ti leme ti leme den prosexa
:p :p

symposium_lexotanil

14-08-2003, 02:59

Btw, oxi de symmeteixe sth synthesh, apla ekane ta fonhtika. An symmeteixe synthetika tha yphrxan perissotera apo 6 riffs se oloklhro to album....

kai auti einai i diafora ton katatonia me tous opeth...oi men me enamisi riff sto kathe tragoudi se vazoun se apisteuti atmosfera kai dimiourgoun epi,eno oi de me 324234232432423 (omologoumenos kales) idees se kathe tragoudi,sto telos katantane anousioi kai varetoi..
tespa gnomi mou einai auti.

Newsted

14-08-2003, 03:00

etsi etsii kala ta les sinexise

symposium_lexotanil

30-08-2003, 19:21

xm ksethavo auto to topik proton giati variemai eleeina kai deuteron giati akouga xthes fear factory.
oi anthropoi exoun ta APISTEUTA riffs,enan katapliktiko tragoudisti,theika albums sto energitiko tous kai,parolo pou einai arketa gnostoi,den exoun lavei tin ektimisi pou tous aksizei.
auta.

rincewind2k

30-08-2003, 20:15

oxi mono auta alla polloi tous thaboun gia ta Obsolete kai Digimortal pou "den einai death metal" kai "einai poly nu" (gnwmh mou oti kai to Soul den tha htan death an eixan parapanw lefta)

H malakia einai oti panw pou xairomastan me to Digimortal (an kai nomizw den phge kala apo pwlhseis) paizei mpounies o xontros me ton Bell kai ola ginontai mpaxalo. Ante na doume twra ti tha ginei.

To group tou bell pantws (Ascension Of The Watchers) psilo gtp mou fainetai... Kai bgazoun kai album ws FF oi ypoloipoi xwris ton Cazares, me ton Wolbers thn kithara. Ante na doume...

symposium_lexotanil

30-08-2003, 20:36

xm malakia tha nai....ego pote den tous theorisa akrivos death etsi ki allios.kai to obsolete maresei perissotero apo to soul of a new machine..ti na pei kaneis.metallades.-

cancer

30-08-2003, 20:58

to digimortal einai gia ta mpaza.

FIXXXER

02-09-2003, 13:52

O cancer ta xerei ola kai gia olous... ekkolaptemenos metallopateras? The new breed, xerei kai gia mousiki ektos metal!!! Ego pantos liono me Obsolete kai de theoro polu kako to Digimortal, alla to Obsolete einai apla gamato. Securitron kai ta muala sta kagkela.

rincewind2k

02-09-2003, 13:56

ola ta albums tous gamata einai .-

(Eksaireitai to Concrete giati den to exw akousei akoma kai dein einai "album". To Hatefiles me akykloforhta exei erthei ellada?)

Kveldssanger

02-09-2003, 14:05

Nomizo pos kapou to exei parei to mati mou to Hatefiles... Mporei na kano kai lathos...

Fates-Warning

02-09-2003, 23:25

Gia na epaner8w sthn arxikh erwthsh:
Ypotimoimenoi stadar Fates Warning ( ti perimenate na pw me tetoio nick..). Epishs 8a symgwnhsw me Solitude Aeturnus, Psychotic Waltz k Coroner.
Twra yperektimoimenoi...an k einai arketa 8ema proswpikou goustou tou ka8enos, mallon 8a pw gia thn ellada rotting christ, eidika sta teleytaia toys.

cancer

02-09-2003, 23:31

ka8isterimene fixxxer traba kai gamisou stin teliki.
exo akousei to digimortal, de mou arese kai mporo na exo opoia apopsi 8elo. esi ti zori trabas?

Solo Carriera

02-09-2003, 23:36

Edw yparxei enas erwtas megalos.

VirusXI

03-09-2003, 00:11

etsi na anavoun ta aimata ligo ligo.

Dragonlord

03-09-2003, 02:44

gia na mh mas th leei o amnesiac pws den exoume flames

warlord

03-09-2003, 13:20

goustaro flame!

ypotimhmeno: apo ta mainstream xalara oi Riot. Apisteyth mpanta pou thn akous 3 kai o koukos...(asxeta an tous kseroun oloi, elaxistoi agorazoun ta cd tous). Apo underground ti na proto pei kaneis: Nuthin Pritty, Axehammer, paaaara polla nwobhm...

FIXXXER

03-09-2003, 19:25

Hahahahah a re cancer goustaro giati se antimetopizo opos antimetopizeis esu olous tous allous ki esy psaroneis.

cancer

03-09-2003, 20:25

den entopizo to asteio.
alla, ok, leme ti malakia mas, kai meta "se antimetopizo opws antimetopizeis tous allous". auto eleipe, na xes na peis kai kati allo.

symposium_lexotanil

03-09-2003, 20:39

xm ego to entopiso to asteio
ti kerdizo..?
vradia me fixxxah?

ManWhoSoldTheWorld

03-09-2003, 20:41

To pio iperektimimeno gia mena einai oi maiden halara. Oxi oti den aksizoun apla oti de pistevw se kamia periptwsi oti tha eprepe na einai toso gnwstoteroi apo alla meta group tis klasis tous.Adikimeno...hm...

Buddy Lackey

03-09-2003, 20:52

afou kai ta alla metal groups einai tis klasis tous tote giati na einai ligotero gnwstoi apo afta?
..

ManWhoSoldTheWorld

03-09-2003, 20:56

hm .
e vasika ennow tis FIMIS tous kai oxi tis klasis tous. lathos mou :B

chris_boss

03-09-2003, 21:19

Me ta live pou edinan sta 80s oi Maiden de ginotan na min petuxoun.

Buddy Lackey

03-09-2003, 21:21

i alliws einai tixaio kai to gegonos tou oti einai to mono group sto opoio exoun paiksei support oi KISS ....

ManWhoSoldTheWorld

03-09-2003, 21:26

Oi maiden nomizw eixan paiksei kapou konta sto Iron Maiden support stous kiss Kai meta paiksan oi kiss stous maiden.. Tragiki eironia..Eides?Tha girisei o troxos tha gamisei ki o koutsos..

chris_boss

03-09-2003, 21:27

re gmt twra akouga to Detroit Rock City. :)

StationEleven

04-09-2003, 01:52

iced earth,hammerfall kai genika olo to strumfakiko kinhma... yperektimimenoi
adikimenoi testament,down,control denied

symposium_lexotanil

04-09-2003, 04:32

xm ksexasa allo ena apisteuta adikimeno group.borknagar.theoi.exoun vgalei pente apisteuta album kai den tous akouei kanenas.psofiste

cancer

04-09-2003, 05:05

xm ego to entopiso to asteio

:wave:

WoTaN

04-09-2003, 05:19

To pio iperektimimeno gia mena einai oi maiden halara.
:wave: :wave:

StationEleven

04-09-2003, 05:27

giati adiko exei ? :p

symposium_lexotanil

04-09-2003, 12:58

poly xairomai pou oloi eipate ti gnomi sas gia tous borknagar :))))))))))))

cancer mou thymizeis ton ethir,pou kapoia stigmi sto bb kapoios (xm kapoios argh) tou ypodeiknye kapoia orthografika ki autos gia na tou tin pei ekane quote kati keyboard sardams.
cheerz

ps : an einai na synexiseis na kaneis tin kakogamimeni aderfi toulaxiston kanto kapou pou na xei kai noima

Kveldssanger

04-09-2003, 13:14

Ta Borknagar, Olden Domain kai Archaic Course ta latreyo... To Quintessence den exo kataferei na to paro akoma... Eno apo to teleytaio oti exo akousei einai psiloadiaforo... Krima pou efyge o Simen, kai irthe to sourgelo... Pantos apo texnikis pleyras exoun megalous mousikous(Asgeir, Lazare klp)... Alla adikimenoi? De xero, oxi perissotero apo arketa alla black metal group...

symposium_lexotanil

04-09-2003, 13:26

xthes evala kai akousa sti seira borknagar,olden domain,archaic course kai empiricism kai porothika pali meta apo kairo.to quintessence kapou exei parapesei/xathei fdasfdasfdsfd
i alithia einai oti protimo to olden domain me ta apisteuta kathara tou garm se merika simeia,alla gia ti mousiki ton borknagar i foni tou simen mallon einai o,ti kalytero...o vintersorg den einai kakos tragoudistis,apla den kollaei katholou kai to empiricism exei merika apisteuta kommatia.
kai mono pou tous katatasseis apla "sta black metal groups" simainei oti einai adikimenoi.einai(itan) black,einai epikoi,einai lyrikoi,einai o,ti na nai.
de diafono oti yparxoun ki alla groups me paraplisio ixo (black) pou den exoun lavei tin ektimisi pou tous aksizei,apla oi borknagar ksexorizoun apo to swro tou legomenou "epikou black" kai exoun kataferei na exoun apolyta prosopiko ixo kai den ksero ti allo variemai na skefto tora.

Kveldssanger

04-09-2003, 13:33

Entaxei isos na min einai kai o orismos tou black metal, alla kata vasi exoun syndethei me ayto to eidos... Pantos sigoura einai poly kalyteroi apo to soro tou epikou/viking klp black metal (antitheta apo kati fotovolides typou Einherjer) an kai tora apo oti exo katalavei exoun kanei pio texniki kai polyploki ti mousiki tous... Pantos apo oti exo dei anamesa stous filous tou xorou einai arketa megalo onoma...

symposium_lexotanil

04-09-2003, 13:47

xm nai.
ekei thelo na statho ki ego.oti exoun menei "anamesa stous filous tou xwrou" eno i mousiki tous sigoura mporei na tous kanei gnostous kai agapitous se olous tous METALLADES (me tin kali ennoia e)
btw oi einherjer einai sympathitikoi.ego kati thyrfing kai sia eixa sto myalo mou

Kveldssanger

04-09-2003, 13:55

Po, po Thyrfing... Kala noumera kai aytoi.... Pisteyo oti to provlima me ayta ta sygrotimata den einai h mousiki alla ta fonitika... O anthropos pou akouei pio melodika parakladia tou metal den tha koitaxei eykola pera apo ta black fonitika, pou pollous tous enoxloun afantasta... Etsi o allos den dinei idiaiteri simasia sto an h mousiki einai melodiki h epiki h progressive klp... Sou leei oti ego den mporo na akouso ena typo na ourliazei... So, there you go...