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Lukather
13-12-2005, 17:19
Loipon o titlos ta leei ola.Skeftomai na paro 7xordi kai eimai anamesa se mia Schecter Diamond V7 kai mia ESP LTD F207.
Ti lete gia aftes ti kithares???kamia prosopiki empeiria? poso peripou kanoun???
Koita thn sygekrimenh Schecter- Diamond V7 den thn kserw. Kserw mono auta ta montela:
» 007 Blackjack
» 007 Elite
» C-7 Blackjack
» C-7 HellRaiser
» Damien-7
» Omen-7
oles tous ektos apo tis Damien-7 kai Omen-7 einai neckthrough. Ths dokimasa oles edw sth germania, sauto to magazi http://www.ppc-music.de
kai prwsopika den mou arese kammia! Kai apo ton hxo tous alla kai apo apo to maniki tous. De me bolepse. Auth pou me bolepse kai thn exasa sto Ebay gia ena Euro einai h Schecter Avenger A+, ena paliotero montelo ths Schecter pou den kykloforei pleon. Paizei mauthna o pwhn kitharistas ton Cannical Corpse Jack Owen. Re file me ton pou thn pianeis auth thn kithara sta xeria sou pragmatika arxizeis na kseskizesai sta Sweep Picking kai sta barbata riffs, ti maniki ti hxos, exei kai to gamato floyd rose ekei pisw, pwpwpwpwpw, an thn breis tsakw thn xwris dystagmo.
H sygekrimenh LTD twra einai paromoia me thn Ibanez RG1527, arketa kalh kitharitsa eixa ena paliotero montelo thn RG7620 kai mou arese poly.
Auta.
p.s posa lefta diatheteis gia thn 7 xordh!?
Egw exw paraggeilei edw kai kapoious mhnes thn Ibanez UV777 kai akoma na mouerthei gamw ton mpela mou!!!!
Εγώ θα σου έλεγα να ψάξεις μπας και βρεις την RG2027, είναι 7χορδη με ένα απλό piezo, χωρίς προενίσχυση. Παρόμοια σ'αυτή που λέει ο Othon...
Από τις δύο που λες αμέσως εγώ θεωρώ την ESP καλύτερη, λόγω ονόματος και μόνο. Θεωρώ γενικώς ότι η ESP είναι πολύ σοβαρή εταιρία, και τα προϊόντα της είναι top notch. Ίσως και η Schecter να λέει αλλά άμα δεις και μερικά topics πίσω, σε αρκετούς δεν κάνει και ιδιαίτερη εντύπωση.
Επίσης έχε στο νου σου το custom shop της Carvin, παραγγελία μέσω internet για ό,τι κιθάρα γουστάρεις, neckthrough κιόλας. Μόνο οι μαγνήτες είναι διαφορετικοί αλλά αυτό είναι κάτι που το αλλάζεις...
Ομοίως και για το custom shop της Jackson :P
Mexri 900 euro h RG1527 einai mia xara. Oi magnhtes ths 8a mporousan na einai ligo kaluteroi vevaia.
Apo shecter kai LTD de 3enw na sou pw. Otan epsaxna gia na dokimasw de vrhka pou8ena sthn a8hna kai den h8ela se kamia periptwsh na parw ki8ara xwris test drive prwta. Gi auto katelh3a 1527.
Lukather
16-12-2005, 16:04
Efxaristo poli re paidia.Tis exasa kai tis 2 alla tora pao gia mia ESP LTD m207, me allagmenous magnites...Mporo na diatheso peripou 400 euro gia 7 xordi,gia afto monadiki lisi einai to ebay.Apla viazomai na paro mia giati ixografoume to debut album ams me ti mpanta mou kai tha ithela merika kommatia na ta paixo me 7xordi,gia na akougontai pio \m/.
Kamia alli protasi?(giati i Avenger den iparxei periptosi na ti vro sta konta kai oi Ibanez einia poli akrives)
Thanx,
Alex
Lukather
16-12-2005, 16:05
Efxaristo poli re paidia.Tis exasa kai tis 2 alla tora pao gia mia ESP LTD m207, me allagmenous magnites...Mporo na diatheso peripou 400 euro gia 7 xordi,gia afto monadiki lisi einai to ebay.Apla viazomai na paro mia giati ixografoume to debut album mas me ti mpanta mou kai tha ithela merika kommatia na ta paixo me 7xordi,gia na akougontai pio \m/.
Kamia alli protasi?(giati i Avenger den iparxei periptosi na ti vro sta konta kai oi Ibanez einia poli akrives)
Thanx,
Alex
Tsekare auto to link kai des ti leei o typas!
http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/ESP/LTD_M_207-1.html
Lukather
17-12-2005, 02:00
Vasika to eixa diavasei prin kai to mono pou mou proxenise itan lipi giati oloi aftoi pou grafoun afta tin piran ftinotera apo oti skopevo na tin paro ego...kata ta alla ta logia itan poli entharintika gia tin sigekrimeni ESP
authna thn exeis tsekarh apo thomann???
http://www.thomann.de/prodbilder/harley_benton_hbr7450frbk_7string_egitarre_pimx_158823.jpg
exei parei tromeres kritikes apo to "guitar" periodiko edw sthn germania kai kostizei mono 159€uronos. Sthn xeiroterh periptwsh bazeis 2 kalyterous magnhtes kai eisai kai o prwtos!!!!
http://www.thomann.de/harley_benton_hbr7450frbk_7string_egitarre_prodinfo.html
Lukather
17-12-2005, 17:43
Xilia Thanx Othon!I m207 den mou katsei tha to koitaxo, alla tha ithela mia xari..Epeidi den xero gri Germanika,mipos tha mporouses na mou metafraseis afta pou leei i selida se parakalo???Etsi oste na do kai go an tha tin koitaxo meta tin Esp.Episis, mipos tha itan efkolo na mou steileis kapoies apo tis kritikes pou diavases???
Thanx, Alex
Edit:Akiro, molis katafera kai tin eida se agglika... :oops:
Pantos akoma thelo tis kritikes an sou einai efkolo
Lukather
18-12-2005, 23:24
authna thn exeis tsekarh apo thomann???
http://www.thomann.de/prodbilder/harley_benton_hbr7450frbk_7string_egitarre_pimx_158823.jpg
exei parei tromeres kritikes apo to "guitar" periodiko edw sthn germania kai kostizei mono 159€uronos. Sthn xeiroterh periptwsh bazeis 2 kalyterous magnhtes kai eisai kai o prwtos!!!!
http://www.thomann.de/harley_benton_hbr7450frbk_7string_egitarre_prodinfo.html
Ekana ena post sto John petrucci forum kai apo ena aksiosevasto melos ekei elava afto :
http://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29673
Mipos telika den aksizei ton kopo? Oi kritikes ti lene????
Sorry pou grafw meta apo kana 2 meres alla hmouna ambourgo kai den eixa ypologisth.
Koita na deis... sto periodiko "Guitar" ekdosh Martiou tou 2004 enas mastoras kitharodos (Doc Schneider) arketa gnwstos edw sth germania (mou mastoreuei kai emena tis kithares), phre kai thn ekane bides thn kithara kai ths edwse poly kalh krhtikh gia ta lefta ths. OUTE O IDIOS to perimene. Leei pws einai ena poly kalo ergaleio gia arxarious alla kai gia prwxwrhmenous. Stous proxwrhmenous egrapse oti isws na xreiastoune na allaksoune tous magnhtes. Auto einai olo.
Lukather
20-12-2005, 02:59
Efxaristo re si.Avrio vradi paragelno tin kithara mazi me enan Dimarzio Air Norton kai enan TOneZone, kathos kai thiki, Schaller locks, xordes alla knobs kai kanena louri.O theos voithos! an ta panta einai mapa skopevo na alla xo kai to floyd rose kai ta kleidia,kai stin ousia na xrisimopoiiso to ksilo tis.Efxaristo poli pantos kai molis tin paro sta xeria mou, kata tis 6-9 genari, tha postaro fotos kai clips
Lukather sou irhte h Harley Benton!?!?! perimenw entypwseis!!!???
Lukather
03-02-2006, 02:55
Lukather sou irhte h Harley Benton!?!?! perimenw entypwseis!!!???
LOL Ksexasa na sou po oti akirosa tin paragelia kai parigilla http://users.auth.gr/papouli/1.JPG
http://users.auth.gr/papouli/2.JPG
Ibanez RG7420 i opoia einai mia xara!!!
Gia tin akriveia tin fovomoun ligo tin Harley Benton kathos akousa oti tis ftiaxnoun apo kontra plake kai alla tetoia kai tha itan xontri mlkia na edina lefta gia kati tetoio...
Megeies reee!
Vgainei akoma auth? Nomiza pws exei stamathsei kai paizei mono h 1527? Pou thn tsimphses?
Megeies re aderfe!
Poso kai apo pou thn tsakwses?
Lukather
03-02-2006, 20:08
Tin pira metaxeirismeni elafros gia 605E sto ebay, MAZI me metaforika kai ektelonismo! Den ksero an exei stamatisei i paragogi tis, alla toulaxiston i kithara einai gg, to maniki pou to fovomoun einai apsogo, apla tha mou parei PARA POLI kairo gia na to sinithiso...Episis, mias kai proti fora sti zoi mou paizo kithara me floyd, diskoleftika apeira na peraso tis xordes, se simeio pou o kavalaris itan oti eprepe gia kathreftaki gia na vgazei ta fridia tis i aderfi mou :D ...Tora omos paizei gg, kai prospatho akoma na sinithiso oti varao B kai oxi E...
xHERETICx
03-02-2006, 23:08
egw 8elw universe :-(((((((
exw dokimasei mia eftaxordh esp h opoia eixe kataplhktiko swma kai mpratso gia ta lefta ths alla oi magnhtes eixan yperbolika pnigmeno gain sthn ebdomh xordh, wste na apofeyx8ei to mpoukwma profanws - pragma koino se pollous magnhtes gia eftaxordes. me ton standar hxo mou (ry8mika me kommena mesaia kai poly drive - xwris idietaireh mneia gia to pws 8a elegx8oun oi syxnothtes katw twn 100hz) kai akougotan paradeisenia, alla de 8a thn proteina gia alles xrhseis. ase pou eixe sta8ero kabalarh. h ibanez rgkati einai pragmatika kalh kai den exei kataskeyh pou kanei th xroia kapws barytonh, pou mallon einai protimotero gia to meso ki8arista, an kai 8a mporouse na exei kalyterous magnhtes. pantws ayth tou coroner akougotan apsoga sto live sth 8essalonikh, ofeilw na paradextw ;-)
xHERETICx
03-02-2006, 23:13
ok. ekpro8esmos
H universe gamaei manes kai pateres. Einai h epomenh ki8ara pou 8a parw. H RG7420 exei stamathsei na vgainei opws kai h 7620 (pou exei dimarzio magnhtes panw).
Genika, stis 7xordes to ligo gain kanei 8aumata, IMHO.
Thanks, heretic :).
egw perimena panw apo miso xrono na mou erthei h gamhmenh h Universe kai telika me phre o emporos meta apo 7 mhnes thlefwno kai mouleei tha arghsei allo toso!!! Anagkastika na tn akyrwsw thn paraggelia kai na parw pisw thn prokatabolh. Thn exw petyxei polles fores sto ebay kai mou fainetai pws tha thn tsakwsw apo kei. Sto ebay to poly mexri 1000€ parapanw den exei fygei.
Re othona giati de thn tsimpas apo thomann h apo kapou allou pou uparxei stock? Oute o trimhs de kanei toso kairo na thn ferei :P.
Coroner kale mou file sympolemisth! oute o thomann thn exei se stock! RE sy me auth thn universe exw xasei 10 xronia apo thn zwh mou! poly agxos exw/eixa trabhksei. Tespa pali kala pou phra kai thn prokatabolh pisw.
Lukather
07-02-2006, 15:35
Ego proteino pantos ebay, gia ton aploustato logo oti iparxoune treles efkairies mesa!Kathe fora pou mpaino mou peftoun ta malia re c!MEsa Boogie Dual rec me 900$, eno o stollas sti thessaloniki zitaei 4000E? entaksei einai vevaia kai risko, alla prosopika(ftou ftou ftou) den mou exei tixei tpt...
A kai episis skeftomai na valo AirNorton kai ToneZone stin Ibanez, ti lete???
Dragonlord
07-02-2006, 18:23
http://cgi.ebay.de/Ibanez-Universe-7-sa ... dZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.de/Ibanez-Universe-7-saitig_W0QQitemZ7387373169QQcategoryZ46649QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
αν και έχει δρόμο ακόμα.
nai nai nai thn exw ypopshn mou!
Panoramix_Miraculix
07-02-2006, 19:52
poso dyskolh einai h metavash apthn 6xordh sthn 7xordh? yparxoun tpt texnikes sto paiksimo pou 8eloun poly eksaskhsh gia na tis paizeis se 7xordh or smth?
Genika emena kana mhna mou phra na mporw na paizw to idio aneta kai se 7xordh kai se 6xordh. Den einai kati idiaitera duskolo. Oso pio polu paizeis toso pio grhgora sunh8izeis.
Genika mporeis na kaneis diafora pramata diaforetika sthn 7xordh. Gia paradeigma arpegios kai sweep se 7 xordes (sick leme :D ). Epishs, peiramatismous se sugkordies kai mia xordh parapanw gia string skipping... Apla, na leme kai kamia malakia parapanw.
Lukather
08-02-2006, 14:58
A kai episis skeftomai na valo AirNorton kai ToneZone stin Ibanez, ti lete???
PLEASE??????? :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Gibson Les paul reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
A kai episis skeftomai na valo AirNorton kai ToneZone stin Ibanez, ti lete???
PLEASE??????? :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Genika einai enas sunduasmos pou polloi ton xrhsimopoioun stis ki8ares tous. O hxos 8a veltiw8ei stantar, opote sth 8esh sou de 8a to skeftomane kai polu.
Sth petrucci exw air norton kai steve's special kai genika o hxos spernei. Thn exw akousei kai me tonezone sth gefura, o opoios exei pio polla mesaia apo ton st. special, aka kaluteros gia lead katastaseis. O air norton ws gnwston gamei, an kai kompresarei arketa ton hxo, kati vevaia pou ton kanei polu ka8aro kai petruccadiko.
Kanenas active EMG den leei se 7 xordes!?
Schecter mono e3axordes exw dokimasei, oxi ta akriba xeiropoihta montela,tis alles, kai par'oti htan panemorfes kai me kalo hxo, tis brhka poly sklhres, me dyskoleyan sto pai3imo....
Esp poly kales, ektos apo ta 2-3 bottom line models.
Megia h Ibanez!
Enas gnwstos eixe krathsei to mpratso+foydrose apo mia idia, eixe ftia3ei custom swma kai eixe balei enan EMG mono sth gefyra, poly kalos hxos
Lukather
16-03-2006, 00:29
Thanx re file!
Genika re Othona oi EMG einai kata ti gnomi mou oi kaliteroi magnites pou iparxoun, an mporousa tha tis evaza pano, apla skeftomai to skapsimo. Einai ligo risko, giati an o texnitis einai mlks paizei na travas ta vizia sou meta. Etsi, mias kai itan i proti 7xordi kai ithela na tin xaro, den to riskara. pantos, an me volepsei poli kai tin xreiasto gia parapano pramata, tha tis valo stadar emgs!
sorry off topic alla thelw na sou kamw mia protasi Lukather
giati den vgazeis mia kainourgia photo me tin kainourgia sou tin kithara gia to sig sou???? :D na ti vlapoume k se zilevoume!!!!!
(ektos an kamw lathos k den eisai esy sti photo)
Lukather
17-03-2006, 01:03
sorry off topic alla thelw na sou kamw mia protasi Lukather
giati den vgazeis mia kainourgia photo me tin kainourgia sou tin kithara gia to sig sou???? :D na ti vlapoume k se zilevoume!!!!!
(ektos an kamw lathos k den eisai esy sti photo)
Giati einai i proti mou agapi kai pantotini :D
Xoris plaka tora, tha allxo to sig alla tha valo pali me aftin tin kithara, giati akoma den exo kanei live me tin kainouria kai de leei na stinomai sa malakas kai na vgazo ton eafto mou fotos :D
vale mia tis prohgoumenis selidas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
sorry....terma to offtopic
Thanx re file!
Genika re Othona oi EMG einai kata ti gnomi mou oi kaliteroi magnites pou iparxoun, an mporousa tha tis evaza pano, apla skeftomai to skapsimo. Einai ligo risko, giati an o texnitis einai mlks paizei na travas ta vizia sou meta. Etsi, mias kai itan i proti 7xordi kai ithela na tin xaro, den to riskara. pantos, an me volepsei poli kai tin xreiasto gia parapano pramata, tha tis valo stadar emgs!
8elei sigoyra skapsimo gia na mpoyn oi EMG??? Se oses ki8ares exw dei exoyn mpei xwris skapsimo, symperilambanomenhs kai mias eftaxordhs.
Mias kai leme gia 7xordes, shmera epai3a mia fernades revolver 7, 7xordh me floyd rose kai sustainer, poy phre enas filos. Poly wraia ki8ara sto pai3imo, ikanopoihtikos hxos, alla me tipota den 8a plhrwna to trelo poso poy plhrwse ofios moy gia na thn agorasei ellada!!! diplasia-triplasia ap'oti exei e3w!!!
Lukather
17-03-2006, 05:12
8elei sigoyra skapsimo gia na mpoyn oi EMG??? Se oses ki8ares exw dei exoyn mpei xwris skapsimo, symperilambanomenhs kai mias eftaxordhs.
An oi EMG einai active ( giati iparxoun kai passive ekdoseis) nai 1000%, giati prepei na iparxei xoros gia na mpei i mpataria pou tous energopoiei
Kala, poso lepth einai h ki8ara soy?
Egw exw active EMG (81 & 85) sth LesPaul, kai h mpataria mia xara xwraei ston xoro poy einai ta hlektronika (potensiometra ktl)
Gia thn akribia exw balei kai ligo rikofon gia na mhn koynietai h mpataria, giati exei poly xwro, gia 2-3 mpataries akoma!
Kala, poso lepth einai h ki8ara soy?
Egw exw active EMG (81 & 85) sth LesPaul, kai h mpataria mia xara xwraei ston xoro poy einai ta hlektronika (potensiometra ktl)
Gia thn akribia exw balei kai ligo rikofon gia na mhn koynietai h mpataria, giati exei poly xwro, gia 2-3 mpataries akoma!
2, 3 mpataries akoma!!?!? Kala ti Les Paul exeis???
Pantws kai egw den xreiasthke na ksapsw sthn Jackson tipota kai exw balei kai rikofon!
Lukather
18-03-2006, 17:38
Molis piga tin kithara na tis xosoun AirNorton kai ToneZone kai elpizo na gamei allios alla 200 Euro gia EMG 707
Kala, poso lepth einai h ki8ara soy?
Egw exw active EMG (81 & 85) sth LesPaul, kai h mpataria mia xara xwraei ston xoro poy einai ta hlektronika (potensiometra ktl)
Gia thn akribia exw balei kai ligo rikofon gia na mhn koynietai h mpataria, giati exei poly xwro, gia 2-3 mpataries akoma!
2, 3 mpataries akoma!!?!? Kala ti Les Paul exeis???
Pantws kai egw den xreiasthke na ksapsw sthn Jackson tipota kai exw balei kai rikofon!
Mia f8hniarikh seira ths Hohner einai h Les Paul, alla moy aresei poly h tastiera, to pai3imo ths genikotera, kai me toys EMG exei kalo hxo, opoe thn krataw kai pros to paron eimai eyxaristhmenos me ayth. Molis ma8w na paizw isws parw kai kalyterh xaxaxa
Basika logo mpantas ton teleytaio kairo paizw olo mpaso, opote oso paei kai xeirotreyw sth ki8ara :P
Molis piga tin kithara na tis xosoun AirNorton kai ToneZone kai elpizo na gamei allios alla 200 Euro gia EMG 707
IMHO passive magnhtes >>> active gia diaforous logous kai dimarzio >>> emg. Eidopoia molis kaneis test drive!
Molis piga tin kithara na tis xosoun AirNorton kai ToneZone kai elpizo na gamei allios alla 200 Euro gia EMG 707
Perimenoume entypwseis!!!
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