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The_Painless

08-08-2003, 10:06

Den 3erw gia sas, einai teleiws proswpiko to zhthma. Gia mena oxi mono den exei xa8ei h mageia, alla oso pernoun ta xronia, to apolambanw olo kai perissotero. Ok, sigoura anebainoun ta standards. Alla den einai terastia euxaristhsh na anakalupteis kati pou den h3eres? Den einai gamw na akous kati pou 8a se en8ousiasei, idiaitera an exei perasei kairos apo thn teleutaia fora pou egine kati tetoio?

Auth einai h mageia ths mousikhs - h mousikh den teleiwnei.

Panta uparxoun pragmata na anakalupteis. Kuklofories tou parel8ontos (bl. 70s - den einai mono oi Zeps kai oi Purple, endeiktika anaferw autous), nees kuklofories eite metal eite apo proskeimenous xwrous, otidhpote. Kai den einai aparaithto na se en8ousiasei h mousikh auth ka8eauth. P.x. emena me en8ousiase to EP tou John Arch, oxi toso mousika -pou kai mousika gamei- oso logw tou gegonotos oti h morfh auth eixe xa8ei kai epestrepse me duo kommatares! Duo kommatia re! Duo kommatia pou eftia3an th mera mou. Ti 'xa8hke h mageia' kai malakies!

cancer

08-08-2003, 11:47

Osoi diafonoun as riksoun kai mia matia stous diskous pou evgainan prin 5-6 xronia. kat ta ksereis kalitera apo mena. kai fisika den perimene kaneis ton ksexasmeno arch me 2 kala komatia na sosei tin (day) xronia.

Einai oreo na akouseis kati pou 8a se enthousiasei, alla autes oi kiklofories spanizoun, pleon.

Ego prosopika, apolamvano poly ena, ksexasmeno gia mines apo to stereo, agapimeno mou album. xoris na psaxno na bro apo pou ine ksepatikwmeno auto pou akouo.

Kata tin apopsi mou, to ipsos twn apaitisewn tou akroati einai analogo me tin poiotita kai ton ari8mo twn akousmatwn tou. giauto kai mou fainetai oxymoro enas sintaktis periodikou na enthousiazetai me 10 kiklofories to mina kai na kopanaei 9ria averta.

The_Painless

08-08-2003, 12:19

Auto pou sou lew einai oti kaneis mporei na parei pragmata apo opoudhpote kai na en8ousiastei me diafora, oxi aparaithta metal. O teleutaios diskos pou me en8ousiase ektos apo tou Arch to EP, htan to Revival twn Winterhawk pou bghke '82! Auto de shmainei oti ta akousmata mou den einai ekleptismena se ba8mo megalutero ap' o,ti deka xronia prin, oute oti epeidh o diskos bghke prin 21 xronia, den a3izei na proste8ei se auta pou agapaw. To 'suntakths periodikou-9aria' de me afora. Autia exei o ka8enas kai akouei. An ws anagnwsths eisai kaxupoptos (kai sthn telikh einai apoluta ugies na eisai) akou to prin to pareis.
Kai epishs, exw thn ais8hsh oti meta apo 5-6 xronia pali 8a leme ti diskares ebgainan prin apo 5-6 xronia. Ki egw apolambanw ena album pou exw na akousw kairo, einai fusiologiko. Alla de 8a to ri3w sth moirolatria pisteuontas oti de 8a sunexisoun na bgainoun kala albums. Dld, ok, ti perimenoume re c? Na bgei ena Powerslave? Na bgei ena And Justice? Ta exoume 3anapei. Auto de shmainei oti den exw apaithseis, opws isws uponoeis. Aplws akoma perimenw albums pou 8a me en8ousiasoun kai 8a me sugkinhsoun. Alliws na paei na gamh8ei, alliws na mhn 3anapaw se diskadiko na parw nea kukloforia apo fobo oti 8a mou 8umisei kati allo kai 8a 3enerwsw...

PS: Xwris kamia dia8esh dhmiourgias entasewn. Me pollh dia8esh na to analusoume, giati einai suzhthsh pou shkwnei koubenta kai goustarw.

Kveldssanger

08-08-2003, 12:20

Prin apo merika xronia isos eixa ftasei kai ego sto shmeio poy perigrafei o cancer, dld na pigaino se ena diskopoleio kai na mi me travaei tipota. H na mi me endiaferoun katholou oi perissoteres nees kyklofories. Tora mallon tha elega oti briskomai se entelos diaforetiki katastasi. An to kaloskefteis yparxoun tosa pragmata ekei exo pou den exeis anakalypsei kai poy axizoun polla poy mallon den yparxei arketos xronos kai xrima gia na anakalyfthei. Osa perissotera mathaineis gia ti mousiki toso perissotero katalavaineis oti xereis elaxista. Akoma kai sto metal vgainoun nea pragmata poy axizoun to psaximo. Alla kai ektos tou xoroy de nomizo oti mporeis na peis oti exei sterepsei h empneysh. Ase poy exoun xefygei tosa polla apo ta palia poy den prokeitai min exeis kati na dokimaseis. Toulaxiston ego etsi ta vlepo ta pragmata. Alla mipos kai h katastasi poy perigrafete einai kai ligo diko mas ftaiximo? Otan katanalonoume selides epi selidon gia na sxoliazoume edo kai mines to St. Anger h otan to kanoume to fthinoporo gia to Dance of Death, den xanoume aytomata arketa ligotero gnosta pragmata poy kykloforoun ekeini tin epoxi.

cancer

08-08-2003, 12:57

poses agores cd mesolavisan apo to teleutaio cd pou se eixe ikanopoihsei sto epakro, ws tote, mexri to winterhawk?
Pantws exeis dikio en merei, ego prosopika exo elaxistopoihsei tis agores kainouriwn kikloforiwn kai koitao perissotero paliotera albums. alla kai pali, sta 20 to ena 8a me *enthousiasei*, xoris auto na einai panta sigouro.

Einai fisiko na afieronontai polla posts se mpantes opws maiden/metallica, afou autes tis mpantes tis gnorizoun oloi arketa kala, opote exoun apopsi. de nomizo na perimenes na ginotan kamia sizitisi peri (paradeigma) ulver (me sena kai allous 1-2) :p

PS: den iponoisa tpt :disco:

WoTaN

08-08-2003, 14:51

Solo Carriera

08-08-2003, 15:03

Opws to vlepw, cancer, mallon eisai sto stadio opou allazoun ta gousta sou kai profanws thes kati perisotero, pera apo to metal. Isws akous lathos mousikh... Egw pleon eimai sto epomeno stadio, den akouw katholou metal.

Kat' eme sigoura exoun meiwthei oi kales kiklofories se sxesh me 10 -15 xronia prin (mias kai ola ta agapimena albums mou ekeinh thn periodo kykloforisan) alla ekskoloutoun na yparxoun. Vevaia gia na tis anakalypseis profanws den prepei na periorizesai se mia-dyo mousikes tampeles kai na vasizesai monaxa sto ti sou proteinei ena mousiko periodiko. H kalh mousikh einai kalh mousikh aneksartita apo to eidos. Opws eipe kai o zappa "yparxoun dyo eidh mousikhs, h kalh kai h kakh.".

Ta eipa xyma.

Gia na kaneis mia entypwsiakh eisodo sthn nea mousikh periodo ths zwhs sou pane agorase to ntempouto ton RATM G#m$thp)#($*YaM#(*u&^@$! Einai kai midprice...

:sk8:

np soundgarden - jesus christ pose

Retali-ator

08-08-2003, 15:10

Gia na kaneis mia entypwsiakh eisodo sthn nea mousikh periodo ths zwhs sou pane agorase to ntempouto ton RATM

nai,na kaneis mia megali eisodo sto xoro tou rap,gia na allaxei i zoi sou.Checkare kai eminem episis

Dragonlord

08-08-2003, 15:53

wraio prama oi ratm,prepei na asxolh8w kapoia stigmh.kai o eminem den einai kakos,apla ta tragoudia tou meta3y tous den exoun arketes diafores gia na mou kinhsoun to endiaferon.to prwto kommati eminem omws pou akousa to'xa fxaristh8ei poly.

katerina,de lew pws den en8ousiazomai pia,apla einai toso spanio se sxesh me to parel8on pou sygkritika ontws fainetai sa na exei xa8ei h mageia.endeiktika anaferw pws eixa en8ousiastei me to virtual xi otan eixe kykloforhsei :rolleyes:

@wotan:an kai to topic eixe krathsei ena alfa epipedo mexri stigmhs,den kratiemai mias kai ais8anomai pws apeu8ynesai kai se mena:apo ti apoprosanatolizetai kapoios pou akouge metal kai psaxnetai kai se alla mousika eidh?se exw 3anarwthsei kai den eixes apanthsei.dhladh 8ewreis kapoion pou akouei metal "prosanatolismeno" kapou?an yparxei prosanatolismos,yparxei stoxos.mporeis na mas enhmerwseis gia to stoxo oswn akoun metal? :confused:

Solo Carriera

08-08-2003, 16:15

Retali: An to mono pragma pou prosexeis sthn mousikh ton ratm einai ta rap fonitika, kako diko sou. Oi typoi exoun grapsei merika apo ta kalytera ROCK riffs olwn twn epoxwn, an den me pisteveis den exeis para na tous akouseis. Eidika to prwto album einai aristourgima apthn arxh ws to telos. Twra afta gia eminem ta akouw verese, egw sou milaw gia ena apo ta liga kalytera sygkrotimata twn 90s kai sy mou les giafton ton potapa me thn enoxlitikh fonh pou avrio den tha ton thymate anthropos.

Ti allo na pw? Kanto sa xarh se mena (les kai me ksereis kai apo xthes) kai ton eafto sou kai katevase to "sleep now in the fire". Akouse to kai meta pesmou pws einai rap mousikh kai malista epipedou eminem.

Cheerz!!!

:disco:

np: RATM - killing in the name of

Solo Carriera

08-08-2003, 16:20

Polla "kai"...

rincewind2k

08-08-2003, 16:20

skata

ksekinhsa na grafw treis fores kai den mou bgainei tipota

ta pragmata einai apla... an arxisei kapoios na akouei kai alla eidh mousikhs tha ksanaektimhsei kapoia stigmh to metal, alla gia logous teleiws diaforetikous apo oti prin...

peite peite, tha epanelthw kapoia stigmh

btw oi ratm skizoun kwlous (poly metal ekfrash ayth)

kai o pantaxou parwn: :disco:

Retali-ator

08-08-2003, 17:14

Ta exo akousei kai ta killing in the name of klp,min anysixeis. Tora pera apo tin plaka,ean thelei o filos cancer na anazopirothei to endiaferon tou pros to metal as mathei tous MANES kai ta leme.Episis borei na akousei enslaved,i to 1o twn dissection to opoio einai arketa epiko.

np: Diabolos Rising: Blood Vampirism & Sadism album

Ghoul

08-08-2003, 17:19

Oson afora tous Ratm einai kata thn apopsh mou apo ta shmantikotera sugrothmata ths dekaetias pou perase ki auto giati ekanan kati to diaforetiko htan prwtoporoi. Einai apo ta shgrothmata pou ananewnoun th mousikh kai 3ana anavoun th floga sou gi auth

Oson afora to thema peri mousikhs pisteuw pws den tha eprepe
na uparxoun tabeles(metal, rock, electro...) kathws h mousikh einai eniaia. Isws mono oi tampeles pou anefere o theios Zappa (kai o solo) kalh kai kakh mousikh:)

Mercyful_Fate_666

08-08-2003, 18:38

WoTaN

08-08-2003, 19:09

Otan lew apoprosanatolismos enoo oti akouei xwris na kserei ti akouei kai ti thelei na akousei.To heavy metal kalws i kakws itan kai einai mousiki adesmeuti.Einai heavy metal.Den einai oute rap metal oute pop metal.Einai heavy metal.Opos eipa einai dikaiwma tou kathenos na akouei oti thelei,apla eidika kai mono gia to heavy metal kapoios poy to parataei kai asxoleite me alla eidi (giati,mias kai opos eipes apeuthinomai kai se sena an kai milousa genika,kai esi exw tin entiposi to paratises,ektos an thewreis tous arcturus kai to neo metallica metal) mousikis ekfrazei oti pote den ixere ti ithele na akousei.San na leme anarxikos,pote den xerei ti thelei.Den xerw an me pianeis.Kai an thes swnei kai kala na sou pw kai apo ti apoprosanatolizete tha sou pw oti apoprosanatolizete apo ti mousiki poy akouge kai agapouse epifaneiaka opos apodeixtike.To heavy metal den einai mousiki gia 2,3 xronia kata ti gnwmi mou.Einai mousiki gia mia zwi.Arkei na tin agapiseis kai na tin psaxeis.Alloi to kanoun alloi oxi.
Filika panta :disco:

enitharmon

08-08-2003, 20:20

ki emena exei xathei kapws o enthousiasmos... :(
otan to '95 ksekinisa na akouw metal, ektos apo ta CD pou agoraza oso syxnotera ginotan, "ksezoumiza" kai kathe mina to Hammer, eilikrina ta diavaza OLA!!! Hthela na mathw oso perissotera pragmata ginetai, sygrotimata, diskous, istoria... twra pia, otan vrethw Ellada kai to parw to diavazw mono an dw kati endiaferon. Fysika etsi de mathainw polla nea sygrotimata kai to underground den to psaxnw kai idiaitera...

apo tin alli den akouw synexws mousiki, opote de variemai kai toso grigora ta cd pou pairnw, alla genikws mporw na pw pws den einai opws palaiotera... :(

enitharmon

08-08-2003, 20:23

Sto pneuma tou "Thelw kati diaforetiko n'akousw" exw kai egw na proteinw ena finlandiko group poly aksiologo (kata tin gnwmi mou) to opoio polloi apo sas isws to kserete idi, tous Nightwish. Egw pantos apo tin prwti fora pou to akousa egina fan tous amesws. Sas to proteinw anepifylaxta.
an evgazan kai tipote diaforetiko... to deutero album tous mou fanike poly kalo, alla apo kei kai pera de prosferoun tipota kainourgio...

rincewind2k

08-08-2003, 20:36

Osoi exoun orkistei aiwnia ypotagh kai afwsiwsh sto "metal" kai niwthoun oti an parekklinoun ligo oi "theoi t(r)ou metal" tha tous katarastoun as shkwsoun to xeri...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

wotan profanws den exeis perasei th fash ths apomuthopoihshs (akoma...) To opoio bebaia apo mono tou den einai kako, afou akoma goustareis opws les

Kai an thes swnei kai kala na sou pw kai apo ti apoprosanatolizete tha sou pw oti apoprosanatolizete apo ti mousiki poy akouge kai agapouse epifaneiaka opos apodeixtike.To heavy metal den einai mousiki gia 2,3 xronia kata ti gnwmi mou.Einai mousiki gia mia zwi.

alla epitrepse mas na exoume diaforetikh apopsh. it's only rock n roll, dude. Kai mporei ta osa les na ta pisteya kai egw otan hmoun, px 14 xronwn, alla twra mou fainontai ligo afelh...

Kai an ayto pou agaphsa sto metal einai to oti einai "antiemporiko", "aneksarthto" kai "kallitexniko" (etsi nomiza tote) tote na ksereis oti ayta akribws ta briskw kai se alla eidh mousikhs

ennoeitai filika panta :disco:

p.s. nightwish=:disco: :D :p :chef: :dangry: :)

enitharmon

08-08-2003, 20:46

to kathe smilie antistoixei se mia kykloforia tous? :D

rincewind2k

08-08-2003, 20:51

nah, apla ebala ta pio geloia smilies pou brhka;)

Kveldssanger

08-08-2003, 20:54

Den einai toso kakoi, toulaxiston sta prota album tous, apla den mporoun na xefygoun apo to syndromo "exoume kai gamo tis tragoudistries alla sygxronos to mono poy goustaroume na paizoume einai power". Exoune kanei kai epityxia opote apla kykloforoun synexos ton idio disko.

Dragonlord

08-08-2003, 21:07

me kalypsan h enitharmon gia tous nightwish kai o rincewind2k gia to metal..eisai wraios,de se eixa prose3ei paliotera ;)
(oxi de sth mpeftw)

The_Painless

08-08-2003, 23:20

Rincewind2k, I share your views, too, m8.
Necro, wraia kai kala ola auta. Dustuxws den einai ola toso agna oso fainontai. Ki egw akouw th mousikh auth akoma kai prospa8w na thn psa3w oso ginetai perissotero, alla kaka ta psemata, apo ena shmeio kai meta 8eleis na akouseis kai kati allo, xwris aparaithta na 'prodwseis' (lol, sxhma logou) auto pou akouges. Pes to 'dieurunsh orizontwn', pes to opws 8es (giati polloi lene oti to 'dieurunw tous mousikous mou orizontes' einai mia dikaiologia). De niw8w oti prepei na apologh8w pou akouw ki alla pragmata - isa isa.
Btw, akouw to teleutaio Gathering twra. Kai ka8e fora pou to akouw, me kerdizei olo kai perissotero. Kai DEN einai metal, oi tupoi exoun 3efugei edw kai kairo apo auto. Kai mou aresei polu auto pou paizoun. Den mporw na to xarakthrisw akribws, alla to goustarw trela kai xairomai pou DEN einai metal.
Dear cancer, auth h kukloforia me en8ousiase, yeah!
Ws pros auto pou rwtages (c/p: poses agores cd mesolavisan apo to teleutaio cd pou se eixe ikanopoihsei sto epakro, ws tote, mexri to winterhawk?): oxi polles, pote de mesolaboun polles. Giati 8ewrw oti an einai kati pou 3erw pleon, einai to pou 8a strafw gia na agorasw kati pou 8a me en8ousiasei. Kai sigoura den einai h ka8e nea kukloforia tou ekastote sugkrothmatos. Protimw na parw sta psilotufla kati gia to opoio diabasa kapou, opoudhpote, kala logia, para to teleutaio album twn Skyclad (eleos) 'h thn teleutaia kukloforia twn Blind Guardian... Auta, me polu filikh dia8esh, etsi?
To prwto eniko den einai gia show-off kai ego-situations, aplws etsi bghke :p

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 00:10

rince poso xronon eisai?
Egw eimai 21 kai parolauta den exw akoma niwsei tin anagi na akusw tpt allo pera apo tin euroia ennoia tou orou metal.
Katerina den diafwnw me auta poy les.Allo omos dieurinsi orizonton kai allo xleuasmos autou pou akouges kai anoigmatos se alla eidi mousikis.

Dragonlord

09-08-2003, 00:30

egw eimai 23 kai thn exw niwsei edw kai 2-3 xronia.epishs,o pateras mou einai sxedon 60 kai den eniwse pote thn anagkh na akousei metal.ti syzhthsh einai auth,o ka8enas einai diaforetikos.mporei na meineis gia panta se auto to stadio,prin th fash ths apomy8opoihshs pou leei kai o rincewind.so what,prepei na kanoun oloi to idio?as long as you're happy me to pws antimetwpizeis th mousikh,live and let live..
de xleuazw olo to metal,sto katw katw metal akouw kyriws akoma.nai merika groups opws oi cirith ungol mou prokaloun gelio,ti 8es twra,epeidh kapote tous akouga prepei na tous proskynw gia panta kai na lew pws einai oi 8eoi tou cult underground epic xebimetal?de metaniwnw gia to parel8on mou,alla den kollaw ekei.eimai diaforetikos an8rwpos apo oti prin apo 5 xronia,opws eimai diaforetikos an8rwpos kai apo oti hmoun shmera to prwi.xreiazetai na 8ymisw ton local metal hero aggelo gewrgiopoulo sth videokaseta tou invader?ok then,"mono oi poly sofoi kai oi poly hli8ioi den allazoun".sofos pantws sigoura den eimai..

rincewind2k

09-08-2003, 00:30

rince poso xronon eisai?
Egw eimai 21 kai parolauta den exw akoma niwsei tin anagi na akusw tpt allo pera apo tin euroia ennoia tou orou metal.

kai egw 21 eimai alla exw niwsei thn anagkh na akousw pragmata pera apo th eyreia ennoia tou orou "metal". So?

(ok asxeto, paei allou, alla otan les oti to Black Album den einai metal, poso eyreia einai h ennoia kata th gnwmh sou?)

Esena mporei kai na mhn sou erthei pote ayth h anagkh. Apolyta dekton, afou esena se kalyptei h mousikh pou akous kai protimas na psaxnesai se sygkekrimena eidh. Den xreiazetai omws na eimai kai egw etsi.

Katerina den diafwnw me auta poy les.Allo omos dieurinsi orizonton kai allo xleuasmos autou pou akouges kai anoigmatos se alla eidi mousikis.

Pragmati allo to ena allo to allo. Kai apo oso katalabainw edw milame gia thn prwth periptwsh. Den eipe kaneis "malakes metallades, akouste kai ligo trance na deite fws". Oloi leme oti kalo to metal (eksallou oloi briskomaste se metal forum) alla den xreiazetai na niwthoume enoxes otan akoume kati diaforetiko. Simple as that.

Kai oso gia to "xleuasmos", kati tetoio apo th meria mou den egine pote, afou etsi ki aliws kyriws metal akouw. Den niwthw omws na tou xrwstaw kai tipota, na tou exw kammia ypoxrewsh. An kapote stamathsei na mou aresei tha stamathsw na to akouw. Pros to paron omws th briskw kai me to parapanw.

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 01:37

Pragmati allo to ena allo to allo. Kai apo oso katalabainw edw milame gia thn prwth periptwsh. Den eipe kaneis "malakes metallades, akouste kai ligo trance na deite fws".

An den kanw lathos kati paromoio proteine o solo carriera ston cancer:rolleyes:

de xleuazw olo to metal,sto katw katw metal akouw kyriws akoma.

Re pano esi den mas eleges oti i Bonnie Tyler pos legete kai o Xatzigiannis pataei sto ptwma tou heavy metal?Ti metal kai prasina aloga mas les twra..

figolfin13

09-08-2003, 02:23

ayto einai to proto post pou kano opote kalos sas vrika!!!ego to mono pou exo na po san opados aytis tis mousikhs einai:
where is the power?where is the glory?HEAVY METAL is my story
kai afiste tous anoixtomialous na akoun oti theloun nomizontas oti to metal exei parei tin katiousa.

rincewind2k

09-08-2003, 02:25

An den kanw lathos kati paromoio proteine o solo carriera ston cancer

den katalaba tipota tetoio. An eixe symbei mallon tha tou thn eixa pei kai egw.

Re pano esi den mas eleges oti i Bonnie Tyler pos legete kai o Xatzigiannis pataei sto ptwma tou heavy metal?Ti metal kai prasina aloga mas les twra..

LOL Kala edw me kollhses teleiws gia ligo giati kai emena Pano me lene. :D

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 02:38

Gia na kaneis mia entypwsiakh eisodo sthn nea mousikh periodo ths zwhs sou pane agorase to ntempouto ton RATM

Dragonlord

09-08-2003, 02:40

Re pano esi den mas eleges oti i Bonnie Tyler pos legete kai o Xatzigiannis pataei sto ptwma tou heavy metal?Ti metal kai prasina aloga mas les twra..
an phres mia tetoia protash sta sovara ti na pw.. :dscared:

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 02:50

Apoti katalaba tin enoouses..Den edwses kanena hint gia na katalabw oti asteieuosoun.An thimamai kala eixame anoixei kai sizitisi gyrw apo to thema kai epemenes.Tespa mporei na thimamai kai lathos,sorry.

rincewind2k

09-08-2003, 02:50

Gia na kaneis mia entypwsiakh eisodo sthn nea mousikh periodo ths zwhs sou pane agorase to ntempouto ton RATM

"malakes metallades, akouste kai ligo trance ('h ratm 'h otidhpote) na deite fws".

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

tespa

/us beating a dead horse

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 02:53

Kati paixtike edw :disco: :disco: :disco: :D

Dragonlord

09-08-2003, 02:59

ontws,otan leei kapoios "o xatzhgiannhs pataei sto ptwma tou heavy metal" ginetai safes oti milaei sovara.episthmonika 8a elega

tespa epeidh oute egw 8ymamai akrivws ti eixe eipw8ei (oute thn parapanw protash autole3ei),h ousia einai auth: pws ekeinh th xronikh periodo evriska thn akroash asxetwn me to metal albums pio ikanopoihtikh apo oti twn tote newn kykloforiwn tou metal,toulaxiston autwn pou eftanan sta autia mou.auto de shmainei oti xleuasa olo to metal opws les,sto katw katw de 8a koroideua (sta sovara) ena oloklhro mousiko eidos,ola exoun ta kala tous kai ta kaka tous.epeidh variemai na to analysw allo,parapempw opoion enoxloun ta legomena mou sto signature mou kai ton parakalw na mhn asxoleitai mazi mou an de mporei na me katanohsei ston aparaithto gia thn ypotypwdh epikoinwnia va8mo.euxaristw.

we always want to kill what we do not understand

cancer

09-08-2003, 03:01

retali: exo aplws akousta tous manes, eimai katoxos kai tou protou dissection, ki exo akousei ta perissotera enslaved. de mou ekanan kai tin tromeri entiposi, kai se kamia periptosi den me allaksan -sto elaxisto- ws akroati.

Tou xronou 8a kano mia kinisi san auti tou solo (to xo edo kai kati mines to proto ratm kai maresei poly, an thimasai).. dld kseskartarisma diskothikis.

Pleon heavy metal akouo 1 stis 100, gia na min po ligotero, afou mou fainetai arketa provlepsimo kai tetrimmeno.

To teleutaio gathering mou arese ki emena arketa (mallon trip-hop 8a to xaraktiriza). Kai pali omws, den lew auto akribws. Mporei se ena mina na anakalipso 4-5 album pou 8a me enthousiasoun, alla de 8a mou fanei i oli fasi opws paliotera. Ex ou kai o titlos tou topic...

Ontos o solo kati tetoio mou proteine, xoris omws ego na to 8eoro toso katakriteo pia. tou eixa pei ti gnomi mou paliotera.

iii ki emena pano me lene. panagioti, that is.

Pantws, prosfata ekana mia paraggelia apo to cdnow me 10 cd, ek twn opoiwn ta 2 mono einai metal... kalitera etsi.

PS: Oi nightwish einai GTP (gia ta panigiria)
PS2: akouo eminem - den einai potapas.

nikodimos

09-08-2003, 03:05

Einai uperbolh na pei kaneis oti den bgainoun kala ablums pia. Isws ftaiei oti polla sugkrothmata pou paradosiaka ebgazan "megala" albums twra den to kanoun. Alla uparxoun kales kuklofories.

Apo thn allh polles fores fainontai kapoioa pragmata asxhma logw koresmou. To auti einai kalo na akouei kai mia poikilia oso kai an protim enan hxo. Ki egw eimai opados twn Blind Guardian alla den tous liwnw olh mera. Twra teleutaia mesw mia filhs sxetikhs me to spor ekana mia ananewsh me groups tou prog rock opws Genesis kai Eloy kai afou to fxaristh8hka akousa pali kalutera ta palia kala agaphmena kafro-metal mou.

Solo Carriera

09-08-2003, 04:04

Pandws xairome pou kratisame ena epipedo sth syzhtish kai den katelikse se flame.

Xwris plaka :p

:sk8:

enitharmon

09-08-2003, 04:59

HEAVY METAL is my story
kai afiste tous anoixtomialous na akoun oti theloun nomizontas oti to metal exei parei tin katiousa.
to na akous megalwnontas kai alla pragmata, de simainei, pws nomizeis oti to metal exei parei tin katiousa, apla to auti (toulaxiston to diko mou) thelei pou kai pou kai kati allo, synithws pio iremo

cancer

09-08-2003, 06:32

katse na megalosei autos prota.

Amnesiac.

09-08-2003, 09:11

wraio thema gia kouventa...
tha prospathisw na milisw oso pio genika ginetai, poios xreiazetai allo ena post-dokimio?
gnwmi mou einai pws i mousiki oso pernaei o kairos tha ginetai synexws kalyteri, ki'ayto giati oi anthrwpoi ginontai eksypnoteroi kai dexontai poly perissotera erethismata (genika) ap'oti oi anthrwpoi palioterwn epoxwn. me alla logia, sigoura tha vgoun albums san to and justice... i to number of the beast i otidipote. isws na exoun vgei idi(to isws den isxyei gia mena, egw eimai sigouros), aplws dyskola mporoume na paradextoume oti ena kainourio album einai kalytero apo kapoio me to opoio exoume megalwsei. kai stin teliki, oi mousikoi simera exoun ti dynatotita na akousoun ola ta aristourgimata tou parelthontos kai na ta xrisimopoiisoun ws vasi gia na pane ti mousiki merika vimata parapera. allwste, kanena eidos mousikis den "ksepetaxtike" etsi ksafnika, antitheta,apotelei ekseliksi kapoiou idi yparxontos eidous. kai oxi, den mporw na paradextw oti oi anthrwpoi 20 xronia prin eixan perissotero talento i megalyteres dynatotites apo tous simerinous (genika milwntas). kanenas paragontas (koinwnikos,politikos,otidipote thelete) den deixnei kati tetoio.
mia eksigisi pou me ikanopoiei oson afora sto thema "paliotera akouga metal me poly megalyteri eyxaristisi,twra de vgainoun toso kaloi diskoi" einai oti me to perasma twn xronwn xanetai i xara tis "eksereynisis". prwtoakougontas metal (i opoiodipote allo eidos mousikis) exeis tin aisthisi oti yparxei enas terastios kosmos pou anoigetai mprosta sou kai anypomoneis na ton eksereyniseis, na ton kaneis ktima sou.akoma thymamai ti mania me tin opoia diavaza opoiadipote pliroforia aforouse se sygkrotimata twn opoiwn ti mousiki de gnwriza kan, alla anypomonousa na anakalypsw.i tis wres pou pernousa akougontas skyrock, grafwntas synexws kasetes me tis ekpompes tou kai akougwntas tes oli tin wra.
me to perasma twn xronwn to metal arxizei na ginetai gnwrimo kai se kapoio pososto provlepsimo. akous to onoma enos apo ta ekatontades sygkrotimata pou eite exeis akousei eite gnwrizeis mono ws onoma kai ksereis ti na perimeneis apo aytous.opote i xara tis anakalypsis tou "agnwstou" stadiaka meiwnetai. merikous ayto den tous peirazei katholou, antitheta tous kanei na aisthanontai pio asfaleis, me tin ennoia oti gnwrizoun ti theloun apo ena disko kai kseroun pou mporoun na to vroun. gia kapoious allous to synaisthima tou na anakalypteis kainouria pragmata einai poly simantiko (ews aparaitito), opote strefontai se alla eidi mousikis.
proswpika milwntas, eksakolouthw na akouw metal alla oi fores pou aisthanomai oti anakalypsa kati kainourio kai spoudaio oloena kai spanizoun.parol'ayta, enas kalos metal diskos tha synexisei na me kalyptei synaisthimatika se terastio vathmo, me ti diafora oti poly dyskola tha "taisei" to mikrovio tis "eksereynisis". gia to teleytaio tha apeythinthw se alla eidi mousikis, gia ta opoia gnwrizw liga i kai elaxista pragmata.
gia paradeigma, akougontas gybe i mogwai i sigur ros kai genika sygkrotimata pou ypagontai stin tampela "post rock", aisthanthika akrivws to idio me tin prwti fora pou akousa metal: oti yparxoun katapliktika pragmata out there gia ta opoia toso kairo den iksera tipota kai ta opoia pragmatika anypomonw na gnwrisw.tha mou parei kapoia xronia gia na mporesw na pw oti "exw kapoia -se ikanopoiitiko vathmo- oloklirwmeni gnwsi epi tou post rock", alla to gegonos ayto mono eyxaristisi mou dinei.an lavw ypospi to gegonos oti to "post rock" einai ena mono eidos apo ayta pou tha ithela na gnwrisw kalytera, mallon kataligw sto symperasma oti tha argisw para poly na varethw ti mousiki genika.
vasika to gamisa pali to zitima 'megalo se megethos post" opote stamataw.:rolleyes:
to genikotero symperasma mou einai oti o mexri enos simeiou koresmos apo ena eidos mousikis einai logikos, anamenomenos kai oxi aparaitita arnitikos.stin teliki, an kapoio eidos mousikis sas gemizei perissotero apo to metal(estw kai gia kapoio periorismeno xroniko diastima mono), poios o logos na asxoleiste me ayto?kaneis den einai se thesi na dinei xrimata gia na akouei ta panta, opote kalo einai na frontisoume ta lefta pou dinoume na pianoun topo pragmatika.
gamwto, den eipa sxedon tipota ap'osa ithela, elpizw an synexistei i kouventa na epektathw perissotero (to teleytaio to eipa gia na sas ksenerwsw)

Mercyful_Fate_666

09-08-2003, 10:58

Symfwnw sta perissotera mazi sou, wstoso akoma perimenw na dw an kai pote tha vgoun oi neoi Metallica, Iron Maiden klp., giati kaka ta psemata, alla oi perissoteroi megalwsame me tetoia groups, kai oxi me tous p.x. Avantasia 'i Gathering (xwris na yponow kati gia ta groups auta, ta opoia thewrw arketa aksiologa). To oti vgainoun wraoi diskoi den exw amfibolia, alla amfiballw an tha vgei kapio group to opoio na mpei sfina sto pantheon twn ierwn teratwn tis metal (gia na kanei kati tetoio den prepei na einai mono kaloi mousiki kai na exoun kales syntheseis, alla kai diarkeia stis epityxies. dystixws ta perissotera groups shmera den exoun diarkeia). Tespa. Auta eixa na pw (kai kala twra mono auta!!!!).

p.s.: Ti post htan auto re aderfe, mas ksethewses.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :rainbow:

StationEleven

09-08-2003, 11:06

mipos prepei na eksereuniso kai alla, makrina mousika pedia? :(

bebaiws
epitelous to paidi megalwnei :p

StationEleven

09-08-2003, 11:08

mipos prepei na eksereuniso kai alla, makrina mousika pedia? :(
bebaiws

epitelous to paidi megalwnei :p
ante kai sanwtera

StationEleven

09-08-2003, 11:09

dipla kai tripla

Retali-ator

09-08-2003, 12:40

Gia na kaneis mia entypwsiakh eisodo sthn nea mousikh periodo ths zwhs sou pane agorase to ntempouto ton RATM

sa na leme,ean varethikes tin ithopoiia tou Marlon Brando,pigaine des Kosta Tsakona gia na kaneis mia entyposiaki eisodo stin nea sou kinimatografiki periodo.

rincewind2k

09-08-2003, 12:45

exeis meinei treis selides pisw, file... :rolleyes:

Kveldssanger

09-08-2003, 13:06

sa na leme,ean varethikes tin ithopoiia tou Marlon Brando,pigaine des Kosta Tsakona gia na kaneis mia entyposiaki eisodo stin nea sou kinimatografiki periodo.

Nomizo oti ginesai ligo ypervolikos... Entaxei exairetikoi oi Manes, theoi oi Enslaved, alla ayto den meionei tin axia ton RATM poy itan poly kaloi se ayto poy ekanan... To na tous anakalypseis sigoura einai mia poly kali kinisi an thes na akouseis kati diaforetiko...

Ayto poy vlepo pantos einai mia tasi apo kapoia paidia na theoroun aytomata oti me to poy tha pareis to proto sou album ektos metal (kai poy den tha anikei sta "apodekta" mousika eidi p.x. prog rock, hard rock klp) tha aporripseis xafnika oti akouges tosa xronia. Den nomizo oti symvainei ayto, to antitheto malista. Dld to na akouso to kainourio album ton Enslaved i ton Dead Soul Tribe mou prosferei tin idia eyxaristisi me to na akouso to kainourio album ton Portishead. Genikotera symfono me ayta pou leei o Amnesiac (h "mikros hthela na gino syggrafeas kai de mou ekatse"). Otan den exeis asxolithei me kati sou fainetai pio endiaferon afou exeis to perithorio na matheis kainouria pragmata kati poy kanei ti diadikasia psaxno na vro plirofories/agorazo albums pio elkystiki. Telos pantos, ayti einai mia megali syzytisi poy mallon kalytero einai na ginei kapoia stigmh apo konta :D

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 13:42

Telos pantos, ayti einai mia megali syzytisi poy mallon kalytero einai na ginei kapoia stigmh apo konta

Na kai mia fora poy milas swsta :disco:

FIXXXER

09-08-2003, 14:07

Sigoura isxiei auto cancer kai opos tha paratiriseis siga siga oso perisotera akous toso kai tha gurnas perisotero sto parelthon,xwris auto na simenei oti den tha vriskeis endiaferouses kiklofories epikaires.Bebaia uparxoun kai eksereseis poy exontas akousei endexomenos polla paratoun to heavy metal kai rixnontai se alla eidi mousikis.Dikaiwma tous bebaia alla egw auto to onomazw apoprosanatolismo.Pote den ixeran ti akougan.
I mageia den nomizw oti exei xathei,apla pisteuw prepei na tin psaxeis arketa gia na tin vreis.

Popo eisai apo ta spastika paidakia pou theloun na ta exoun ola se ena programma kai katastalagmena mesa tous?!?! "Afiste to heavy metal mou, ego ta exo psaxei ola kai exo katastalaxei, oi alloi einai apoprosanatolismenoi". Apla perimeno ti stigmi pou tha xeneroseis ki esy... tha exei gelio.

FIXXXER

09-08-2003, 14:10

Ego to teleutaio group pou me esteile me ti mousiki tou kai me ekane na xe-apogoiteuto itan oi The Tea Party, apo kei kai pera upirxan euxaristes ekplixeis, alla tipota de me taraxe oso autoi... xerete, itan apo tis fores pou nomizeis oti gamane se oti ki an paixoun, kai de se noiazei na se koroidepsoun kai polu gia to gousto sou giati polu apla pas na akouseis ti mousiki kai ftiaxnesai. Kata ta alla, entaxei, tora teleutaia exo mia mania na mazepso ola ta albums ton Queen, pragmatiki mousiki, oxi malakies.

enitharmon

09-08-2003, 14:41

akoma thymamai ti mania me tin opoia diavaza opoiadipote pliroforia aforouse se sygkrotimata twn opoiwn ti mousiki de gnwriza kan, alla anypomonousa na anakalypsw.i tis wres pou pernousa akougontas skyrock, grafwntas synexws kasetes me tis ekpompes tou kai akougwntas tes oli tin wra.

:dcry: wraies epoxes.... :dsorry:

exw na liwsw disko apo to ritual twn Shaman...

Amnesiac.

09-08-2003, 16:30

...to opoio egw agorasa me tin elpida na mou thymisei ligo ta palia (to holy land twn angra itan to album pou me ekane na asxolithw gia ta kala me to metal, eixa faei xontri friki gia kana dyo xronia) alla me apogoiteyse oiktra. pithanotata epeidi exw psilostamatisei na asxoloumai me to athlima (vl.power metal)

Ghoul

09-08-2003, 16:43

Sumphwnw apoluta me osa 'anaferei' o sugrafeas-dokimiografos-amnesiac kai proteinw se opoion thelei na akousei kati diaforetiko-poiotiko to opoio omws na einai katw apo thn enoia tou metal tous deadsoul tribe (h to solo tou buddy lackey)-psychotic waltz (h darkstar) kai Death. Episis apo non-metal proteinw afova dead can dance, porcupine tree, depeche mode kai archive

ps: Chuck RIP

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 18:38

Megali metriotita to Ritual.

cancer

09-08-2003, 20:29

ethereal de nomizo na fainomai gia atomo pou akouei mono metal :p apla auto katalamvanei to megalitero meros tis diskothikis mou opote skeftomai oti isws auto prepei na allaksei.

to teleutaio group pou me kse-apogoiteuse (fixxxer (c)) itan oi alice in chains. paliotera oi tea party kai oi porcupine tree.

Diafono, retali. OLA ta metal groups ine o marlon brando kai oi ratm ine o tsakwnas? nah.

shakes, iparxei enas paragontas eksaitias tou opoiou oi anthropoi prin 20 xronia grafan kaliteri mousiki (sto metal)... kaneis den eixe ksanapaiksei opws oi metallica sto justice px. An tora vgainoun 5 justice to mina, kai to eidos ekselissetai me ry8mous xelwnas (sxetika, panta, me tin ekseliksi tou ti dekaetia 70-80) tote ine logiko na pernoun aparatirita.

Tora pao na tsekaro autous tous death pou proteine o ghoul :disco:

WoTaN

09-08-2003, 22:51

xm cancer mipws akous MONO ta 5 justice poy vgenoun kathe mina?
Uparxoun polla pragmata poy pragmatika aksizoun.Arkei na ta psaxeis epanalamvanw.

cancer

09-08-2003, 23:16

legontas "5 justice" ennoousa tous 5 *kalous* diskous ka8e mina pou omws kati 8imizoun, kati antigrafoun (ews ksepatikwnoun) apo palioteres "thrilikes" kiklofories.
an 8a mou peis na akouso lost horizon px, pou den exo akousei, alla ksero ti lene oi epicsters/xevimetaloi giautous, kai pou gia sena ap'oti exo katalabei einai i ekpliksi tis xronias, 8a sou po oti apo tis diafores perigrafes, eimai sigouros oti de 8a me entiposiasoun, de 8a tous brw protoporiakous, ki, en telei, 8a skilobare8o. auto simvainei se ka8e ypo-eidos metal, oxi mono me to xevi (gia na min pareksigoumaste)...

mou fainetai pos 8a se parapempso ki ego sto sign tou dragonlord

np good old minds I

symposium_lexotanil

09-08-2003, 23:40

ti ginetai re pousti mou..dyo meres eleipsa kai erxomai tora kai vrisko ola auta..ante kante kana mpanio kai afiste ta fora.-

to thema sikonei polli syzitisi.
symfono me ton topic setter cancer.ki ego teleutaia poly spania enthousiazomai me nees kyklofories,alla to xeirotero olon einai oti oute palia agapimena albums exo oreksi na akouso.in fact leo na paratiso ti mousiki kai na arxiso na syllego grammatosima i petaloudes.
to post tou amnesiac me kalypse pliros.ta eipes xyma.

monadiki parafonia stin ekseliksi tou thread oi apopseis tou wotan pou profanos den exei katalavei akoma oti exoun perasei pollaaaaaa xronia apo tote pou i emivia zoi ston planiti ekselixthike apo monokyttarikous organismous se pio polyplokes morfes yparksis.

enitharmon

09-08-2003, 23:43

Megali metriotita to Ritual.
kapws prepei na to sxoliasw auto, alla de mou erxetai kati kalo...
ta ethnic stoixeia den itan poly metal e??? mipws akouses mono to teleutaio kommati?

enitharmon

09-08-2003, 23:46

frikalee mou eleipses... :dcry: gouelkam mpak

Ghoul

10-08-2003, 00:02

Symphwnw me to frikaleo vriskw tis apopseis tou wotan ligo klassikes apopseis kolhmenou ellhna power-a.
'Oi ompreles, ta ale3hptwta kai ta muala douleuoun kalutera anoixta'
filika panta

cancer

10-08-2003, 00:04

me tetoies simvoules, tompoulomas. autos kolakeuetai.

FIXXXER

10-08-2003, 15:23

to teleutaio group pou me kse-apogoiteuse (fixxxer (c)) itan oi alice in chains. paliotera oi tea party kai oi porcupine tree.

Goustareis? Plaka plaka Alice In Chains bainoun kai sti diki mou lista ton sugrotimaton pou dinoun elpida stous apogoiteumenous apo ti mousiki... :disco:

cancer

10-08-2003, 15:34

den ksero an exo simplirosei 1 mina pou tous protoakousa, alla mpainoun sti lista me ta 4 agapimena mou groups.

VirusXI

10-08-2003, 18:13

arxisa na diavazw apth prwth selida kai ligo meta ta misa ta parathsa :p

sigoura meta apo ena megalo diasthma pou asxolhse me th mousikh, psaxneis, akous nea pragmata, kapou xanesai, ksanavriskeis, anakalypteis kialla ktl ktl einai poly megalo to pedio pou mporeis na kinh8eis.
synexws allazoun dia8eseis, twra akouw poly tetoio meta apo to allo meta to allo meta pali ayto pou akouga prin, wraia pramata.
akoma kai sta eidh pou exeis akousei ta "endeiktika" kai den goustareis... an psaxteis pio poly 8a vreis pragmata na goustars, pragma px pou den 8a kanei pote tou o WoTaN :p
ntaks h mageia den exei xa8ei apth stigmh pou yparxoun apeira palia albums pou den exeis akousei kai synexws vgainoun nea albums pou den ta akous giati den mas ta xoun fatsa karta k 8a ta vreis mprosta sou kapote.
akoma kai ta anamashmata pou pleon einai synexes fainomeno, exoun kati na poun, sometimes :p
poios mporei na kathgorhsei tous beggars px sto euphoria pou exoun dwsei mia teleiws diaforetikh morfh kai dia8esh sto riff tou heaven & hell? - kai einai gkayla)
ta standards sigoura anevenoun kai pane. egw vriskw adiafora arketa pragmata pou akouw gia prwth fora alla den shmainei kai oti ta katadikazw, se allh fash me allh dia8esh mporei na mou fanoun ok (ektos an einai teleiws a8lio re paidim)
oti mou katevenei grafw alla tespa, variemai k fainetai k apodeiknyetai.
symperasma apta parapanw de vgainei pantws mouaheah

WoTaN

10-08-2003, 18:33

dld gia na xoume kalo erwtima,gia na akouseis cancer kati poy na einai metal tha prepei na einai anatreptiko monadiko sto eidos,poy na prosferei kati poy kanenas allos diskos den exei prosferei ston xwro kai poy endexomenws exontas ola auta na min einai kai polly metal.Den mporeis na akouseis pragmatika kalous metal diskous?Asxeta an sou thimizoun kati i oxi?

kapws prepei na to sxoliasw auto, alla de mou erxetai kati kalo... ta ethnic stoixeia den itan poly metal e??? mipws akouses mono to teleutaio kommati?

Katarxas latreuw olous tous diskous twn Angra kai otan tous akouga egw esi ksefilizes to hammer olo mania kai epsaxnes ola ta nea group poy elege.Mou aresoun oi peiramatismoi sto metal.Kai fisika ta ethnic stoixeia den iparxoun mono sto Ritual alla kai stous Angra genikotera.Auto den simenei omos oti o diskos den einai metrios,i toulaxiston oxi oti kapoios tha perimene apo ton Matos.O diskos den einai asximos alla oxi kai gia liwsimo opos eipes.That's the difference.Mallon stirixtikes polly sta logia poy elege to hammer gia to Ritual...Egw auto vlepw.

Symphwnw me to frikaleo vriskw tis apopseis tou wotan ligo klassikes apopseis kolhmenou ellhna power-a.

Kala edw gelame,kollimenos poweras lol.

Amnesiac.

10-08-2003, 22:17

@virusXI : kati eleges gia periorismo tou megethous twn posts...;)
(vl. teleytaio sou post)

VirusXI

10-08-2003, 22:46

@virusXI : kati eleges gia periorismo tou megethous twn posts...;)
(vl. teleytaio sou post)

xesmas, otan variemai variemai :p

Solo Carriera

10-08-2003, 23:33

Mou aresoun oi peiramatismoi sto metal.

:disco:

Amnesiac.

11-08-2003, 00:31

@solo carriera : wraio kommati to memphis will be laid to waste twn norma jean. to eixe proteinei paliotera enas gnwstos sou pou legotan decaffeine se ena gnwsto mou pou legotan shakesbeer se ena allo gnwsto forum.

cancer

11-08-2003, 00:55

exeis meinei treis selides pisw, file... :rolleyes:
afou tora tou ir8e i eksipnada
(ki emena tora mou ir8e)

dld gia na xoume kalo erwtima,gia na akouseis cancer kati poy na einai metal tha prepei na einai anatreptiko monadiko sto eidos,poy na prosferei kati poy kanenas allos diskos den exei prosferei ston xwro kai poy endexomenws exontas ola auta na min einai kai polly metal.Den mporeis na akouseis pragmatika kalous metal diskous?Asxeta an sou thimizoun kati i oxi?
de mporo na 8esw exact kritiria... kindinos detected omws! exontas ola auta mporei na min einai 100% metal!
ta kritiria mou ta ksereis panw katw, 8a koitousa me kalitero mati enan "oxi akribws metal" disko apo enan 100% metal.

alice in chains (re mounia) loipon...

enitharmon

11-08-2003, 01:03

Katarxas latreuw olous tous diskous twn Angra kai otan tous akouga egw esi ksefilizes to hammer olo mania kai epsaxnes ola ta nea group poy elege.
les malakies agapi mou. to Holy Land vgike to '96 kai akouw metal apo to '95 (itan ki emena to album me to opoio kollisa gia ta kala). an esy akous Angra apo to Angels Cry, paw paso...

Mou aresoun oi peiramatismoi sto metal.
to apodeiknyeis me kathe post sou auto...
opws leei kai o Carrieristas :disco:

Auto den simenei omos oti o diskos den einai metrios,i toulaxiston oxi oti kapoios tha perimene apo ton Matos.O diskos den einai asximos alla oxi kai gia liwsimo opos eipes.That's the difference.Mallon stirixtikes polly sta logia poy elege to hammer gia to Ritual...Egw auto vlepw.

Stirixtika poly sta logia tou Hammer oson afora to album twn Virgo (8 apo ton Pervanidi), to opoio kai agorasa prin akousw kai twra mazeuei kapou skoni...
mporei kapoios na stirixtei kai na parasyrthei apo mia kali kritiki, alla to an tha to liwsw to album to apofasizw egw kai to gousto mou. Emena m'aresei to Ritual kai to vriskw sxedon toso kalo oso to Angels Cry (sto katw katw m'aresei kai to Fireworks, pou den aresei se allous).
Synepws parata me

Amnesiac.

11-08-2003, 01:15

to album twn virgo aksizei 5 euro? toso to exei to rock city kai elega na to tsimpisw.
wraio album to fireworks alla holy land den einai (oute kan angels cry)
an kapoios thelei na agorasei ena mono power metal album, xalara tha tou synistousa to holy land. i kati apo ostrogoth :lick:

FIXXXER

11-08-2003, 15:11

dld gia na xoume kalo erwtima,gia na akouseis cancer kati poy na einai metal tha prepei na einai anatreptiko monadiko sto eidos,poy na prosferei kati poy kanenas allos diskos den exei prosferei ston xwro kai poy endexomenws exontas ola auta na min einai kai polly metal.Den mporeis na akouseis pragmatika kalous metal diskous?Asxeta an sou thimizoun kati i oxi?

Pragmatika kalous metal diskous? Ti ennoeis diladi? Afou milas me diki sou glossa, pos perimeneis na sunennoitheis. Ego ama sou apantiso oti NAI boro na akouso pragmatika kalous metal diskous, tha me rotiseis na sou po paradeigmata kai meta apo sou po to teleutaio ton Rammstein tha gelaseis giati de to theoreis metal. Sorry file Necro, alla an to Mutter den einai metal, tote mallon kapoio provlima exoun ta aftia sou!!! Opote, ase kai kala tis filosofikes erotiseis, afou de to katexeis... ektos ki an theoreis oti me tis liges ilektronikes prosthikes kai tous germanikous stixous oi Rammstein exoun valei kati pou den exei valei kanenas allos opote den anikoun stin katigoria tou "pragmatikou" metal. Pas na apodeixeis monimos oti den eisai o kollimenos true metallas, kai monimos pefteis se adiexoda... asto kalutera, kalutera na paradexesai oti eisai kollimenos kai na se antimetopizoun me prokatalipsi, giati outos i allos auto kanoun oloi...

symposium_lexotanil

11-08-2003, 16:28

Katarxas latreuw olous tous diskous twn Angra kai otan tous akouga egw esi ksefilizes to hammer olo mania kai epsaxnes ola ta nea group poy elege.

eipe o anthropos pou emathe tous domine prin 3 xronia

tespa ithela na grapso ki alla edo alla sto telos tha katalikso na leo ta idia kai ta idia opote de gamietai..

WoTaN

11-08-2003, 18:51

4 parakalw.
xmm profanws oso eukola mporei na mathei kanesi tous domine toso eukola mporei na mathei kai tous angra gggagagag.Twra perimenete na katsw na deixw ston fixxer ti einai metal kai ti oxi?Ok de tha to kanw.
Kai gia na tou dwsw mia sintomi apantisi tha pw kalous heavy metal diskous afou oi alloi fantazomai exete tin stoixeiwdi noimosini na katalabenete ti enoo legontas kalous metal diskous.
Fixxer an sou deis ti diskothiki moy tha diapistwseis oti exei polla diaforetika metal pragmata.An dw tin diki sou fantazomai tha exei otidipote kai polly elaxista ws midamina metal pragmata.Soo opos katalabeneis o oros anoixtomualos opos ton xrisimopoieis esi den mporei na me simperilavei emena (eutixws).Gia sena eimai kollimenos,gia kapoion metala eimai anoixtomualos.Etsi paei.

cancer

11-08-2003, 18:54

Pas na apodeixeis monimos oti den eisai o kollimenos true metallas
ego pali 8a elega oti auto pasxizei na deiksei...

FIXXXER

11-08-2003, 19:16

Koita Necroslughter, xero polu kala ti einai metal kai ti anikei sto metal, alla pistepse me, mallon i gnomi mou einai sumfoni me tous perissoterous, eidika edo mesa, ektos ki an theleis esu na epanaprosdioriseis ton oro, katharizontas ton apo ta miasmata pou leei ki o symposium. Kai pistepse me, tha vreis arketa metal pragmata sti diskothiki mou, alla den eimai perifanos gi auto, opos isos esu. H mousiki einai gia ton kathena prosopiko zitima, oxi kati pros epideixi kai omadiki xara, an kai merikes fores auto leei. Opos kai na xei omos, ego sou efera kathorismeno paradeigma, tous Rammstein, kai pao stoixima oti oi perissoteroi tha sumfonisoun mazi mou, eno esy tha diafoniseis.

Cancer, an exo katalavei kala o oros true ton enoxlei ton Necro, opote exo sumperanei oti pasxizei na apodeixei oti den uparxei tetoios oros, kontra panta vevaia se allous...

Dragonlord

11-08-2003, 19:56

4 parakalw.
ok oxi oti exei shmasia,alla pros apokatastash ths alh8eias:
nomizw pws gnwristhkame apo konta afotou eftia3a to #metallized,dhladh ton iounh tou 2001.an loipon 8ymamai kala,to champion eternal sto edwsa meta to kalokairi tou 2001.that leaves us with less than 2 years kai oxi 3 opws lan8asmena eipe o sympo.
PS:akoma ki an kanw la8os kai eixame gnwristei prin apo tote (pou den kanw),apokleietai na einai 4 xronia ka8ws eisai sthn patra molis 3..

WoTaN

12-08-2003, 00:03

Pros apokatastasi tis alitheias.
Ta prota kommatia Domine ta eixa grapsei eis kasetas (true) to kalokairi tou 1999 apo ton kirio Manoli Mastaurali katoiko Agriniou kai katoxo peripterou stin Plateia Agiou Kwnstantinou.
Ta kommatia auta einai ta:Defender kai Thunderstorm.I sigekrimeni kaseta yparxei kai me imerominia an thimamai kala.Opote thes perna na tin deis.
Gnwristikame kapoy sto 2000 mesw tis Anastasias tis filis sou an thimamai kala (kalo koritsaki,poy exei xathei?).Allwste an thimasai kala imoun paron sta skinika me ton Mandrake sto temple ta opois eginan kapou sto 2000.Eixa erthei kai spiti sou na gelasoume merikes fores.
Domine akouga spiti sou kai mono otan erxomoun merika kommatia.Den peira kanena disko tous apo sena.
To Champion Eternal to peira argotera apo ton Metal_Warrior se kaseta episis (true).Mporei na se diabebewsei o idios.
Apo sena peira Doomsword kai Wotan \m/
Auta ta oliga.

Amnesiac.

12-08-2003, 00:19

na milisoun oi dikigoroi sas.

Dragonlord

12-08-2003, 03:34

arg tous mperdepsa me tous doomsword.mea culpa

Ghoul

12-08-2003, 04:14

Kala edw gelame,kollimenos poweras lol.
De me endiaferei an eisai poweras-epicas h otidhpote allo pantws eisai kollhmenos ki auto to epivevaiwneis me kathe post sou...:disco:

Newsted

14-08-2003, 04:00

oli eiste kolimeni metallades monisas to eipate se ena thread mou min tsakoneste

atom_smasher

23-08-2003, 16:10

(katarxhn dhlwnw "kollhmenos metalas".to prwto stadio lene einai na suneidhtopoihseis oti kati den paei kala...wraia!)h mageia den exei xathei.ola kala kai wraia osa lete.egw akoma anakaluptw kainouria kai oxi toso kainouria pragmata.kales epoxes tote to 95...alla twra akoma kaluteres.h alhtheia einai oti uparxei kalh kai kakh mousikh.oi ratm px einai polu kaloi se auto pou kanoun,apla den mou aresei auto pou kanoun.:dfinger:

Newsted

25-08-2003, 06:46

parakoloutho oxi kai me megali prosoxi alla tha apadiso kateftian sto erotima tou thread isos einai ora na xefigis apo tin forma tou metal ora na akousis kai alla diaforetika pramata h mousikiden einai mono notes einai kai ifos otan akousis ena pop komati diaskevi apo metal einai to idio komati alla otan ta akouys einai 2 diaforetika se ifos mathe na akous me thn psixisou en akomati kai na katalavenis olo to fasma xekola ap[o tin forma agorazo metal disko .
episis exei ena dikio ta kenourgia exoun ena kati pou dne einai kala einai gi apatates na to po? ee kati tetio
tespa akouo palia diafora girnato kai sto hip hop low bap pop disco jazz funk kai oti dipote allo exei ifos pou xexorizi kai den tha vargiese :)
eimoun safis elpizo

MoRmEnGiL

27-08-2003, 05:40

egw ena exw na pw necro:egw akouga epic metal kai eblepa live tous domine (kai exw kai t shirt domine pou ypoti8ete oti 8a agorazes kiola) enw esy den h3eres kan ti paei na pei domine :P

warlord

27-08-2003, 10:10

Re paidia ti shmasia exei an ematha ena group xtes h prin apo 45 xronia?

Ego px prin apo 20 meres katebasa to divinity ton Amorphis, epatha plaka kai tora exo agorasei to tuonela... Den leo oti eimai fan ths mpantas, alla mou aresei para poly kai siga siga tha paro kai ta alla (oxi ta prota) albums tous... Exo to dikaioma na to kano?

Oson afora to thema tou topic:
Nomizo oti sto xoro tou klassikou metal (pou perilambanei kai to power/epic) xalara h mageia exei xathei! Mporei na bgainoun kai kaloi diskoi alla oxi me th syxnothta pou ginotan palaiotera, oute ftanoun th mageia ton mnhmeion tou eidous...
Gi' ayto kai go psaxno kati pou na m aresei kai ektos tou klasikou metal. Px Spiritual Beggars, Firebird, Abdullah, Amorphis, Tea Party, The Quill...
Exo asxolithei kai me Opeth, Tool alla den mou aresan katholou.

VirusXI

27-08-2003, 12:09

k Blind Dog mahehaeh :p

warlord

27-08-2003, 12:27

Nai Blind Dog tha einai to epomeno album pou tha agoraso (an to vro)...
Thanks Virus!

cancer

27-08-2003, 14:12

"pantws to neo forum einai gia ton poutso kanonika"

welcome.

FIXXXER

27-08-2003, 14:43

Ahahahahaah

Buddy Lackey

27-08-2003, 18:05

eftixws enthousiasmo exo akoma ..
tora peri tis dikomaxias, necro to 2000 den empenes irc so akira osa eipes.
gag
ta skinika me mandrake ginane to 2001 .
opote o dragon exei dikio

Buddy Lackey

27-08-2003, 18:39

pantws pistevw oti paizei rolo o tropos pou kapoios mathenei kapoia pragmata kai i sixnotita me tin opoia afomoiwnei groups (an ta afomoiwnei).Exete skeftei oti epeidi kai mesw internet kai logw allwn pleonektimatwn, exete prosvasi se olo kai nea akousmata twn opoio to plhthos isws paraeinai megalo kai ektos tou oti den akougontai sosta ta pragmata, akoma kai afta pou ipo alles sinthikes na enthousiazan, xanontai mesa stin ipervoliki posotita new hxwn gia to afti.
Oso pio themita arga kai ousiastika erxetai i afomiosh newn akousmatwn , toso argei na xathei kai o enthousiasmos pou exoume otan akoume kati neo. Paliotera akougame 3 mexri 5 albums kathe mina sxedon kai ta liwname, pws na iparxei enthousiasmos otan px exoume 5 nea pragmata gia na entrifisoume kala se afta kai na mas aresoun ana evdomada.

VirusXI

27-08-2003, 18:47

giauto to logo symvainei to fainomeno tou "re mlk tous eixa adikhsei telika aytous"...
einai analogws to atomo pantws to poso 8elei na afomiwsei kati kai na exei mia sovarh apopsh gia to ka8e ti
analogws kai na to 8ewrhsei aristourghma h patata.

symposium_lexotanil

28-08-2003, 00:23

auto pou eipe o mpantilakis isxyei.
to katalava ego tis teleutees meres.
mou dosan 1 (ena) mp3 cd me albums kai kati sintia me klipakia kai egrapsa apo ton mpantilaki 4-5 albums se audio kai zorizomai kanonika prospathontas na ta akouso ola auta,kserontas pos an den ta akouso syntoma den prokeitai na ta akouso pote..tespa

Newsted

28-08-2003, 02:14

gamata sympo emena na di spou mou dosane 3 cd kai den eixera ti na proto paro alla gemizo adika to skliromou den xero ti na proto akouso

morphine

28-08-2003, 05:44

:hippy:

symposium_lexotanil

28-08-2003, 11:17

xm thymamai kapoio post gnostou karagkiozi sto *allo* forum,to opoio ypostirize pos yparxoun tragoudia apo allo eidos mousikis (ektos metal) pou mporei na ta apolauseis para poly,alla porosi kai ekstasi (agony and ecstasy ena prama) mono to xevimetal mporei na sou prosferei.kai skeftomai tora ego.auti ti stigmi akouo to gothic love song ton current93.kai mou prokalei ekstasi.kai anatrixila.kai o,ti na nai.eimai malakas?eimai false?merikes fores pou mou pernane oi taseis malakinsis kathomai kai skeftomai sovara(?) kati atakes tou nekrosloter "de ginetai na akous kai xevimetal kai vnv.eisai apoprosanatolismenos.den ksereis GIATI akous metal" kai kati tetoia.kai skeftomai pali.kano kati lathos i oi autes einai apopseis apla kathysterimenon?i erotisi safws einai ritoriki.to ksero oti eimai ektos thematos alla ithela na kano mia anafora sti logiki lovotomimenou pou exoun merikoi.
thnx

warlord

28-08-2003, 11:29

Symp, den einai aspro - mavro....
Ego px akouo kai polla pragmata ektos metal (mh gelate, alitheia leo), omos sth koryfh ton protimhseon mou htan einai kai tha einai to heavy metal.

symposium_lexotanil

28-08-2003, 11:39

ehm ki ego auto leo.....oti den einai aspro mauro....ki ego akouo polla pragmata kai stin koryfi ton protimiseon mou einai to black metal.
to na les "tha einai" einai ystati malakia,kathws opos exo ksanapei kai se allo thread,to na prokatavaleis kai na proeksofleis to mellon ton (mousikon kai oxi mono) protimiseon sou,einai to ligotero anoito.
episis to thema den einai ti allo akous ektos apo metal,auto pou ithele na thiksei perissotero i morfin,einai o tropos pou antimetopizoun merikoi to metal.tespa exo tin aisthisi oti tha ksekinisoume tis idies syzitiseis ksana kai ksana kai den exei plaka kai paizei na xothei kai o wotan kai na gamithei o dias.

VirusXI

28-08-2003, 11:58

pws de to anakalypse akoma to thread (ypo8etw) kai den exei petaxtei akoma aporw... heaheh
indeed to na les "kai tha einai" einai san na piezeis ton eayto sou na to kanei ;)
aggareia kaneis?

The_Painless

28-08-2003, 13:34

Eleos re. To uper-analusame nomizw. O ka8enas o,ti 8elei akouei. Twra akouw to 'Dopes To Infinity' twn Monster Magnet kai skeftomai pali ti kaula diskos einai kai poso xairomai pou den to eixa akousei nwritera giati pi8anotata prin apo 2-3 xronia de 8a to ektimousa. Kai indeed, tote pou epaizan me Metallica, den polukatalabaina ti akouga kai den mporousa na pw an mou aresan 'h oxi (oi M.M.). Ta panta exoun ena timing.
Den exw stamathsei na akouw metal. Isa isa. Mporw na pw oti pername deutero mhna tou melitos edw kai polu kairo. Kai omws akouw kai metal kai xazoxaroumena beatakia kai gothakia eniote kai o,ti na 'nai ligo polu.
Panw katw auto pou leei kai o sympo. Einai malakas autos pou sugkineitai kai me alla pragmata? 'H ofeilw na logodothsw se kanenan gia auta pou akouw? 'H mhpws prepei na upografw ka8e 15 meres sumbolaio pisths sto metal? Kai epimenw oti ola auta de sunhgoroun sto oti h mageia exei xa8ei. Aplws 'ma8ainontas' na akous ki alla pragmata, anakalupteis th mageia kai se alla pedia peran tou metal. Btw, to neo DST...mageia!

symposium_lexotanil

28-08-2003, 13:36

some things u cant retuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn.-

WoTaN

28-08-2003, 13:58

parakolouthw kathe post.my spirit lives on \m/
apla den vriskw logo na anakateutw se tetoiou eidous sizitiseis apo forum.
kalitera apo konta na katalabenomaste ;)

VirusXI

28-08-2003, 14:00

natos kai o perdikos.
he has a point.

FIXXXER

28-08-2003, 14:02

Ego apo tin alli akouo kai metal kai alla pragmata kai stin korufi ton protimiseon vriskontai oi Queen, peirazei pou den einai metal?

VirusXI

28-08-2003, 14:04

nai, 8a fas ban apto metal diskason.

symposium_lexotanil

28-08-2003, 14:05

xm wotan kai apo konta ta xoume syzitisei auta pleistakis alla kai pali de vgainei akri..eisai apla ston kosmo sou.kai saresei.kai se zileuo

kai episis me tis tragikes apopseis pou exeis peri mousikis einai logiko na carry on to ur spirit.auta pou exeis pei kata kairous apotyponontai ston euthrausto egkefalo mas san skata se gyaloxarto

{NightStalker}

28-08-2003, 14:43

Egw pali to 'xw riksei sta mpitakia kai sta skyladika kai exw ka8arisei :disco:

Ekanan megalo kako oi bandes pou typopoiisan ti skini,eginan entelws mainstream kai oles oi kainourgies prospathoun na tis antigrapsoun.Pistevw pws den vgenoun pia ta masterpieces pou evgenan palia.Oso kapoios emvathynei se ena antikeimeno apokta perissoteres apaitiseis.Ayto symvalei kai sta ypshlotera stadar pou thetoume stis kainourgies kyklofories.Otan varieme akouw gia mia periodo kati ligo pio diaforetiko apo metal etsi wste na epanekthmisw tin akisia tou..

P.S:Pou ta thimithikate ayta me ton mandrake re.. :eek:

warlord

29-08-2003, 09:01

Symp wrote:

"to na les "tha einai" einai ystati malakia,kathws opos exo ksanapei kai se allo thread,to na prokatavaleis kai na proeksofleis to mellon ton (mousikon kai oxi mono) protimiseon sou,einai to ligotero anoito."

E koita, meta apo 16 xronia pou akouo metal kai den exo ksekollhsei, mallon exo ena dynato hint gia na leo "tha einai"

Dragonlord

29-08-2003, 12:55

mm naii alla an 8ymamai swsta eixes pei pws den akouges metal gia ena diasthma kai meta to 3anarxises

WoTaN

29-08-2003, 14:03

egw proskinw to avatar tou warlord. \m/

warlord

29-08-2003, 15:05

Dragonlord wrote:
"mm naii alla an 8ymamai swsta eixes pei pws den akouges metal gia ena diasthma kai meta to 3anarxises"

Den thymase kala... Den parakolouthousa tis nees kyklofories kai akouga paara poly prog metal/rock. Eksakoloutho na akouo prog rock, oxi omos kai metal....
Oso gia to "magic is gone", exo papsei na perimeno apo to kainourgio cd na einai to neo painkiller... To ksero oti akougetai mizero, alla ston koresmeno xoro tou klassikou metal enas apla kalos diskos ksexorizei anamesa sth savoura kai mas kanei na ton "anebazoume" pano apo thn antikeimenikh tou aksia.
Mpla mpla mpla

Dragonlord

29-08-2003, 15:20

okie dokie
kala eidika sto klasiko metal egw ta vlepw kapws etsi:
gia na anhkei ena album se auto to xwro prepei na akolou8ei kapoia stereotypa
ara apokleietai na akoustei kati pragmatika fresko kai kainourgio
kai apo th stigmh pou auth h mousikh paizetai edw kai 20 xronia ok kati to sygklonistiko apokleietai na vgei..akoma ki an vgei enas diskos isa3ios me ta kalytera twn 80s,kai pali de 8a kanei megalh ais8hsh ka8ws 8a einai kati pou exoume 3anakousei

Solo Carriera

29-08-2003, 15:37

np mr. bungle - retrovertigo

Coroner

29-08-2003, 16:05

H mousiki exei sxesh me to sunais8hma pou sou prokallei. To opoio shmainei oti ena album klasikou metal to 2003 mporei na sou prokalesei ta idia sunais8hmata me ena antistoixo tou 1986... Apla, kalo 8a htan na iparxei mia ananewsi tou tropou ekfrasis. Tespa, variemai na ejigisw parapanw. Later

symposium_lexotanil

29-08-2003, 16:23

E koita, meta apo 16 xronia pou akouo metal kai den exo ksekollhsei, mallon exo ena dynato hint gia na leo "tha einai"

xm u have a point there.alla kai pali den mporeis na ksereis 100% ti epifylasei to mellon

gia to thema "de ginetai na vgei kati kainourgio kai na nai sygklonistiko" ego psilodiafono me tous prolalisantes.
an ena group exei afomoiosei "ygeiws" tis epirroes tou kai den prospathei na antigrapsei steira,tote yparxoun pithanotites gia sygklonistiko apotelesma.omos epeidi sauton ton xoro ligo poly exoun paixtei ola,xreiazetai kai megalo talento kai foveri douleia apo merous ton mousikon gia na kataferoun na min akougontai kakektypo kapoiou palioterou megalou sximatos.ena paradeigma pou mou rxetai tora sto myalo einai oi doomsword.kata ti gnomi mou o ixos tou epik metal einai o pleon koresmenos,parola auta kataferan na vgaloun sta 00s ena epikometaliko album pou exei oles tis prodiagrafes gia na xaraktiristei klasiko sto mellon.tespa den eimai gnostis tou eidous,opote mporei na kano kai lathos.
pantos to mono sigouro einai,oti i ekseliksi sti mousiki einai o,ti pio ygies kai apairaitito.
to post tou coroner omologo oti me ekseplikse kathos logo tou kapos *dyskolou* goustou tou,perimena na exei diaforetiki apopsi.