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Amnesiac.
03-12-2003, 14:50
ok allo ena tool thread.
egine vsk gia na mi syzitame me ti marianna gia tous tool se varos tou anathema thread, alla ayto de simainei oti to thread ayto den einai mia kali eykairia na ksekinisei mia syzitisi panw s'ayto to ypermegisto dimiourgima pou onomazetai Lateralus.
proswpika eimai entelws ethismenos sayto to album kai to thewrw aneta ena apo ta 5 agapimena mou olwn twn epoxwn. gia na perigrapsw ta synaisthimata pou mou dimiourgei tha eprepe na eixa terastio talento sti xrisi tin ellinikis glwssas, kati pou dystyxws de symvainei.
ti na pw giayto to album pou na min exei eipwthei? asxoloumai poly me ti mousiki kai eytyxws polles fores tyxainei na akouw pragmatika katapliktika tragoudia apo diaforous kallitexnes. oson afora stous tool omws, den to xwraei to myalo mou pws ginetai 4 atoma na grafoun toso ekswpragmatika teleia mousiki. ti na pw, i synthetiki eyfyia twn tool einai apo allo planiti.
apo opoia pleyra kai an proseggisw ti mousiki twn tool, ta panta moiazoun teleia. akoma kai apo texnikis pleyras ta atoma den paizontai.
o maynard james keenan exei tin kalyteri fwni pou exw akousei pote kai gia na min to kourazw perissotero, oi tool gia mena einai i koryfaia mpanta pou emfanistike pote ston planiti.
tha grapsw polla perissotera gia tous tool stis epomenes meres, to thread ayto tha einai i "psyxanalysi" mou, opws leei kai i marianna, anaferomeni sto pink floyd thread.
thermi paraklisi : as min ksefygei ayto to thread apo ton arxiko skopo tou, nai to kserw oti den exw dikaiwma na zitaw kati tetoio kathws exw katastrepsei pampolla threads, apla to zitaw san xari.
ayta pros to paron.
With my feet upon the ground I lose myself
between the sounds and open wide to suck it in,
I feel it move across my skin.
I'm reaching up and reaching out,
I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Kveldssanger
03-12-2003, 15:13
Entaxei, vlepo apo tora ti katalixi tou en logo thread... Telos panton, pame na doume poso tha krathsei... Me tous Tool sigoura den exo ti sxesh pou perigrafei o amniziak, an kai apolamvano se terastio vathmo kai ta 3 studio albums pou exoun kykloforhsei... Theoro pos einai apo ta pleon olokliromena sygxrona sygrotimata afou kathe ti pou kanoun einai prosegmeno mousika, optika, stixourgika afou alloste kai oi idioi de periorizontai mono sto mousiko tomea oste na ekfrasthoun os kallitexnes... Polles fores exei ginei syzitisi gyro apo ta video tous, pou einai pragmatika mikra erga texnhs alla an to pame kai parapera, apo ta fictional albums tou booklet tou Aenima mexri kai to booklet tou Lateralus fainetai oti h leptomereia metraei gia to sygrotima... Se atomiko epipedo mporei o Keenan na fainetai perissotero (os frontman tou group) alla emena panta tha me entyposiazei se poly megalytero vathmo o Carrey, pou einai xalarotata anamesa stous kalyterous drummer ayth th stigmh ston kosmo, kai pou katafernei na paizei texnika themata xoris na kourazei...
Gia to Lateralus tora... Gia mena to megalytero proson tou diskou (pou gia allous einai isos to shmantikotero meionektima tou) einai h aisthisi synexeias pou sou dinei... Ta tragoudia diadexontai to ena to allo aviasta kai telika to antimetopizeis perissotero san synolo para sa memonomenes syntheseis... Parol' ayta (kai xero pos pithanotata o amniziak tha diafonisei mazi mou) mexri stigmhs h kalyterh stigmh tous einai sigoura to proigoumeno album tous, to Aenima... Ta tragoudia ekei mesa einai ena kai ena, einai isos ligo pio ameso xoris na xanei to sophisticated xarakthra tou (kai to sophisticated to leo sigoura os thetiko, kai oxi os kati to epitideymeno), me ermhneia tou Keenan pou menoun axehastes kai, vevaia to (sxedon omonymo) Aenema... Isos to kalytero tragoudi pou exoun grapsei mexri stigmhs...
Telos panton einai polla pou mporeis na peis gia ayto to sygrotima kai eimai sigouros oti alloi tha poun arketa parapano pragmata... Opos eipa den sygkatalegontai anamesa sta sygrotimata me ta opoia exo kollima... Parol' ayta einai ena apo ta pio poiotika sygrotimata pou exoun vgei ta teleytaia xronia... Kai pou xrostane vevaia apeira pragmata se kapoious allous palaioterous (o amniziak toulaxiston xerei gia poious milao) :P
Amnesiac.
03-12-2003, 15:19
Parol' ayta (kai xero pos pithanotata o amniziak tha diafonisei mazi mou) mexri stigmhs h kalyterh stigmh tous einai sigoura to proigoumeno album tous, to Aenima...
xmm to aenima mazi me to lateralus einai mesa sta 5 agapimena mou albums ever kai pragmatika de mporw na ksexwrisw kapoio apo ta 2. to kathena exei diki tou proswpikotita kai einai yperplires apo kathe apopsi.
sadsafdfsf mou ti spaei pou ekfrazomai toso peza gia 2 kommatia tis psyxis mou, alla pragmatika de mporw na vrw tis katalliles lekseis.
symposium_lexotanil
03-12-2003, 16:29
poly kalo group intint oi tool,alla kai arketa yperektimimenoi imo.to aenima einai ontos katapliktiko album,alla to lateralus mallon apeuthynetai se tool fanboyz styl amniziak.prosopika,exontas akousei kai ektimisei to aenima,otan evala na akouso proti fora to lateralus imoun etoimos gia aristourgima.as min anafero tis skepseis mou gia to album meta tis protes akroaseis giati tha fao ban apo ton amniziak.tespa.meta apo poly kairo ksanaasxolithika mazi tou kai katafera na ksexoriso 2-3 tragoudia.apo kei kai meta yawn.mou fainetai pos einai to idio tragoudi synexeia,paigmeno texnika kai orea men alla vareta de (san opeth ena prama).episis i foni tou keenan de mou leei kai polla pramata,alla tha symfono me ton kveld gia ton drummah pou einai apisteutos.by far to pio eksypna texniko paiksimo pou exo akousei,xoris na einai oute kata dianoia kourastiko opos anefere.oson afora to artwork kai ta clipakia tous,einai perierga kai ftiagmena sti leptomereia,alla apo ena simeio kai meta de ginetai na mi mou fanoun kapws epitideumena ola auta.
auta.
The_Painless
03-12-2003, 17:57
Κόλλημα δίσκος. Στην αρχή το άκουγα και το ξανάκουγα και το ξανάκουγα. Πλέον το έχω μόνο για πολύ συγκεκριμένες φάσεις από πλευράς διάθεσης αλλά εννοείται πως εξακολουθεί να μου φαίνεται μεγάλη δισκάρα. Και δε νομίζω ότι είναι επιτηδευμένο όπως λέει ο Amnesiac, απλώς από ένα σημείο και μετά είναι σαν improvisatiob or something και στην προκειμένη περίπτωση, αυτό μου αρέσει :)
oi tool gia mena einai i koryfaia mpanta pou emfanistike pote ston planiti.
Ligo vary, elpizw na ksereis ti les.
xmm to aenima mazi me to lateralus einai mesa sta 5 agapimena mou albums ever kai pragmatika de mporw na ksexwrisw kapoio apo ta 2
An ta 2 einai twn Tool kai ta alla 3 vazw stoixhma twn Radiohead, den vlepw kai poly poikilia sta akousmata sou! :P :wink:
When Black Roses Bloom
03-12-2003, 19:41
Epeses sthn fash pou akouw to Schism (tragoudi epitomh, opws kai to video clip, alla kai ta lyrics). Between Supposed brothers.... Between suposed lovers my friends......
Amnesiac.
03-12-2003, 20:20
oi tool gia mena einai i koryfaia mpanta pou emfanistike pote ston planiti.
Ligo vary, elpizw na ksereis ti les.
xmm to aenima mazi me to lateralus einai mesa sta 5 agapimena mou albums ever kai pragmatika de mporw na ksexwrisw kapoio apo ta 2
An ta 2 einai twn Tool kai ta alla 3 vazw stoixhma twn Radiohead, den vlepw kai poly poikilia sta akousmata sou! :P :wink:
nai
simfono prota apola me to "ais8isi sinexeias".
episis keenan kai carey einai gamatoi.
apo kei kai pera, iparxoun kai kaliteres (pio polyprismatikes) mpantes sti sigxroni mousiki tis opoies ego protimo. kata ta alla eimai xwma kai aei gam...
Dying_Swan
04-12-2003, 04:59
Pantws ena exw na pw... TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Ekei bebaia pou tous bgazeis to kapelo einai sta live. Otan tous eixa dei prin duo xronia eixane paijei ta kerata tous. Sxedon ola ta kommatia ta paijane diaforetika apo oti einai sto album. Eidika sto Third Eye tous ebgala to kapelo. Eixe 3 o8ones (2 megales yhla kai mia pisw apo to eidiko stage pou eixane sthsei gia ton Maynard). Sto third eye anebasane panw sto stage tou Maynard kana duo drums gia na paijei. Apo pisw sthn o8onh fainotane h skia tou, pws fainetai ama mpei kapoios mprosta sthn o8onh enos kinhmatografou. Mono pou h skia epaize ki8ara, thn wra pou o Maynard epaize drums! Peritto na pw pws o Danny edwse resta. to na blepeis live to ti paizei to atomo einai allo prama. Se olh th sunaulia eixa meinei me to stoma anoixto! Apisteuth empeiria.
Erxontai kai oi Perfect Circle telh Genarh re gamwto, alla einai mesa sthn kwloejetastikh k den 8a paw :( Pantws ama erxotane oi Tool poios 8a thn exeze thn ejetastikh...
MoRmEnGiL
04-12-2003, 10:45
ahm..symfwnw en merh me ton sympo..to aenima htan anwteros diskos me megalyterh diarkeia (opoios to katalabe auto twra to katalabe..pantws den ennow to posh wra einai to cd :P)to lateralus ki auto einai arketa kalo alla den nomizw oti ftanei to aenima.oso gia ta prohgoumena tous,opiate,undertow k saliva,en ta exw akousei tooso poly wste na ekferw gnwmh akoma...
marianna2525
04-12-2003, 12:19
alla ta matia tou lagou, ki'alla tis koukouvagias... i mallon kalytera, alla ta aftia tis marias kai alla tou amnesiac.
sorry pou tha sas apogoitefso, den mou arese me tin proti akroasi, gia mena i arhi einai to imisi tou pantos.
mallon epalitheftikan osoi me theoroun provlepsimi...
vevaia htes eiha pali proetoimasia gia purple kai zeppelin, pos na mou aresoun oi tool, otan akouga ta iera terata tis epohis mou?
a nai, kathimerina akouo kai train of thought, opote ta megethi den einai sygkrisima, kapoioi yperteroun...
Amnesiac.
04-12-2003, 15:14
maria ksekina me to reflection. to 11o kommati.
tha mou fainotan parakseno an sou arese to album me to prwto akousma.
dying swan, plz mi mas enimerwneis gia tis synaylies pou vlepeis sto fucking brighton, mas GAMAS TIN PSYXOLOGIA.
After Dark
04-12-2003, 16:43
Otan to eixa prwtoagorasei eixa pa8ei trelh plaka kai eksakolouthouse na yfistatai gia kana xrono meta.Isws kai na leitourghsa kai ws fanboy pou leei kai o symp.
Pleon,psyxraima,pisteyw oti: 1)To Aenima einai akseperasto pros to paron gia tous idious tous Tool kai 2)ta 2 cdakia twn A Perfect Circle einai kata poly anwtera tou Lateralus.
Aytaaaaaaaaa.
Re amnesiac me douleveis? To salival ematha oti einai box set. Mono ekei yparxei to No Quarter?
Kveldssanger
04-12-2003, 17:41
Nai...
Amnesiac.
04-12-2003, 17:52
yparxei kai sto kazaa i to soulseek.
yparxei kai sto kazaa i to soulseek.
Aaaante...
Kveldssanger
04-12-2003, 17:55
Kamia 40aria prepei na kanei...
Dying_Swan
04-12-2003, 18:09
vevaia htes eiha pali proetoimasia gia purple kai zeppelin, pos na mou aresoun oi tool, otan akouga ta iera terata tis epohis mou?
Oi Tool anhkoune sta iera terata ths shmerinhs epoxhs. Oi kairoi allazoune k oi mousikes allazoune.
a nai, kathimerina akouo kai train of thought, opote ta megethi den einai sygkrisima, kapoioi yperteroun...
Mh sugkrinoume twra to Train of Thought me to AEnima... exei na pesei polu flame...
daydreamer
04-12-2003, 18:16
Δεν μπορώ να χαρακτηρίσω το Lateralus... απλά θεωρώ ότι είναι ανώτερο του Aenima και η φυσική (όσο φυσική μπορεί να είναι...) εξέλιξη μετά από αυτό...
Ο Keenan έχει την καλύτερη ίσως φωνή που έχει εμφανιστεί τα τελευταία χρόνια... αυτό δεν το λέω συγκρίνοντας τη με άλλες αλλά κυρίως επειδή δεν συγκρίνεται με άλλες.
Ο Carrey είναι απλά απίστευτος...
Οι Tool είναι η πιο προοδευτική μπάντα των τελευταίων χρόνων...
Επίσης όσο επιτηδευμένο κι αν είναι το αλλού γιαλλού στυλ τους (booklet etc...) δεν παύει να είναι αυθεντικό, γιατί αλλιώς θα έβγαζαν cd κάθε χρόνο και θα μας τα έπαιρναν χοντρά αφήνοντάς μας κάθε φορά να τους ακούμε σαν χάνοι :shock: ...
ΥΓ: Όλα αυτά τα λέει ένας τύπος που δεν έχει ακόμα πάρει το Undertow...
freak brother
05-12-2003, 00:13
to desingn tou booklet kai genika tou album to kanan oi idioi kai oxi kapioi pou tous plhrwnei h etairia ... gamw!
Kingryche
05-12-2003, 05:06
To Lateralus einai aristourgima poli esostrefes kai prosopiko album.M'aresei ligo perissotero apo to Aenima.Oloi einai kallitexnes me tin sovari ennoia tou orou.To artwork einai tou kitharista (Jones)an den apatomai.
To Reflection einai apistefto kommati opos kai alla...
Watch the weather change...
Kveldssanger
05-12-2003, 15:58
Videos, artwork kai genikotera olh h optiki pleyra ton Tool einai ontos ergo tou Jones.... Exallou an thymamai kala asxoleitai epaggelmatika me design/animation klp... Ena feggari prepei na douleye kai ston kinimatografo...
Amnesiac.
05-12-2003, 17:20
o k. Jones einai se megalo vathmo ypeythinos gia ayta ta katapliktika gia tin epoxi tous efe sto Terminator 2 apoti kserw.
daydreamer
05-12-2003, 17:55
Επίσης για τα εφέ του Jurasic Park 2 (δεν είναι σίγουρο το νούμερο...) και Predator 2 (επίσης δεν είναι σίγουρο το νούμερο...).
rincewind2k
05-12-2003, 21:47
amnesiac merge giok mallon, mwro mou sorry
Otan tous eixa dei prin duo xronia
ante. gamhsou.
lepon to Aenima einai gamato kai to Lateralus einai ligo pio gamato. ayta.
marianna8635, akouse to otan eisai se analogh fash, isws otan exei perasei o arxikos enthousiasmos gia to ToT.
btw imo oi tool einai oi neoi zeppelin apo polles apopseis alla bariemai na epektathw
{NightStalker}
06-12-2003, 14:17
Afiste katw tous led zeppelin parakalw..Oi tool den exoun vgalei dazed and confused...
Amnesiac.
06-12-2003, 16:12
entaksei tote (c)
freak brother
06-12-2003, 21:16
pantws einai apo ta liga album pou den mporw na akousw sugkekrimena kommatia otan mprei prepei na akoustei olo apo thn arxh mexri to telos..
rincewind2k
07-12-2003, 01:06
pffff, h sygkrish den htan mousikh, an den to katalabes
Sumfono me symposium lexotanil kata kurio logo, auta pou egrapse einai stin proti selida. Alla diafono sto gegonos oti protimo to Lateralus apo to Aenima. Kai kalutero ixo exei, kai pio sugxrono einai, kai den exei tosa anousia kommatia. Vasika epeidi den eixa porosi me kanena apo ta duo kai ta akousa mazi, nomizo oti an exaireseis to prosopiko kollima merikon me to Aenima epeidi vgike proto, pragmatika ta duo album einai entelos isodunama.
Chopped In Half
07-12-2003, 16:24
Οι Tool είναι το γαμημένο μέλλον του "σκληρού ήχου".
=P
Chopped In Half
07-12-2003, 17:31
Και εγώ όταν το έμαθα εντυπωσιάστηκα.-
{NightStalker}
08-12-2003, 00:37
Metal invader-R.I.M.M.P(Rest In Metal Magazine Peace):''Oi tool einai to mellon tou progressive rock kai emeis eimaste akoma me ta tsarouxia (c)''
Evala na to akousw pali shmera..Pali ta monadika kommatia pou mou aresan htan to The grudge,schism,parabola..Mipws eimai ypervolika hlithios gia na katalavw ti mousiki tous?(c) Oson afora gia to an o drummer einai texnikos emena de mou leei tpt giati kata ti gnwmh mou ektos apo merika shmeia paizei anousia pramata alla ayto einai personal opinion..
lost_icon
08-12-2003, 02:45
ths prospathisw na eimai antikeimenikos me to lateralus kathoti kai fanboy pou leei kai o sympo,otan to prwtakousa hmoun mazi me ton vairous,to eixa daneistei apo enan gnwsto mou apo thn douleia,omologw oti h prwth akroash den me eixe peisei gia ton thoryvo gyrw apo afton ton disko alla skefthka na tou dwsw mia akoma efkairia kai arxisa na ton akouw prosektika,kathe mera anakalypta kai kati kainourio,na pw gia thn kataplhktikh mousikh?,na pw gia thn fwnh tou theou maynard?,den yparxoun logia nomizw gia na perigrapsei kapoios ta synaisthimata pou sou prokalei h akroash tou lateralus.kai eida orismenous apo esas pou anaferate oti sas aresoun orismena kommatia apo to kathe album,oi TOOL den einai group pou paizei omorfa kommatakia h hitakia,ta cd tous einai grammena gia na akougontai oloklhra xwris diakoph. :D
Jeditraitor
08-12-2003, 11:19
tha symfwnhsw me ton lost icon oson afora tous tool.
Nightstalker an nomizeis oti o carrey paizei anousia pragmata tote ti na pw...oute emena m'arese to lateralus(gamw ta onomata gia disko)sthn prwth akroash, se kerdizei stadiaka!epishs tha hthela na kserw an o amnesiac kai h afentia mou eimaste oi monoi pou zhleuoume toso pathologika ton dying swan gia auta ta live reports pou kanei....peite an einai kiallos, epivevaiwste oti den einai arrwstia!
daydreamer
08-12-2003, 13:10
Μην ανησυχείς... Κι εγώ ζηλεύω!!!
Ο Danny Carrey ξεχειλίζει από ουσία...
Loipon, tha eimai suntomi kai epigrammatiki (oso dunaton):
1) Oi Tool einai hdh klasiko sugkrotima kai nai, tolmw na pw oti mporoun na sugkrithoun me sugkrotimata terata allwn dekaetiwn. Apodeiksi? Deite posa sugkrotimata ksepidoun sunexeia kai "moiazoun me Tool" (pio swsta, thathelan na moiazoun me Tool).
2) Einai o orismos tou progressive hxou giati exoun paei ti mousiki ena bhma parapera (h kai perissotera.. :wink: )
3) Oloi oi Tool san proswpikotites einai enas ki enas. Kaneis den einai tuxaios h metrios. Oloi einai morphes kai standard arketa peiragmenoi. Diakaiologimeno an anlogistei kaneis ta kollimata me tous apokrufismous klp pou exoun!
4) Gia mena, ola tous ta album exoun mia fusiki ekselissimotita pros to kalutero se olous tous tomeis. Mousika, texnika, apo pleuras artwork, videoclips, stixwn klp. (Anupomonw trela gia to epomeno...yamyam)
5) TI PREPEI NA KANOUME GIA NA TOUS DOYME LIVE RE GAMWTO????? (Ektos apo to na kseniteutoume...)
freak brother
09-12-2003, 05:17
yparxei mia texnikh pou legete astral projection dimitra to swma sou tha nai sthn ellada kai to myalo sou mono tha taxidepsei sto exwteriko..outws h allos den kanoun live giati einai h periodia ton perfect circle authn thn periodo :p
Ma outws h allws den kanoun live oi Tool apoti kserw...Poly liga. Kai mhn akouw sysxetismous me Zeppelin plz...Giati prepei panta o anthrwpos na sygkrinei kati me kati allo gia na apodeiksei oti einai kalo?
Amnesiac.
09-12-2003, 15:00
ti exete na peite gi'aytous tous stixous?
diavaste tous kai kante ti sygkrisi me tis dilwseis twn perissoterwn sygkrotimatwn anaforika me tous opadous tous, tin texni tous ktl.
afierwmenoi kyriws stis mpantes pou kykloforoun "katapliktika box set" twn 70 euro i sylloges me 2 akykloforita kommatia gia na tis agorasoun kai oi fanatikoi, ola ayta dwro stous opadous gia na giortasoun ta X xronia apo tin idrysi tous.
Hooker with a Penis
I met a boy wearing Vans, 501s, and a
Dope Beastie t, nipple rings, and
New tattoos that claimed that he
Was OGT,
From '92,
The first EP.
And in between
Sips of Coke
He told me that
He thought
We were sellin' out,
Layin' down,
Suckin' up
To the man.
Well now I've got some
A-dvice for you, little buddy.
Before you point the finger
You should know that
I'm the man,
And if I'm the man,
Then you're the man, and
He's the man as well so you can
Point that fuckin' finger up your ass.
All you know about me is what I've sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.
I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.
So I've got some
Advice for you, little buddy.
Before you point your finger
You should know that
I'm the man,
If I'm the fuckin' man
Then you're the fuckin' man as well
So you can
Point that fuckin' finger up your ass.
All you know about me is what I've sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.
I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.
All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on TV
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar
So...Shut up and
Buy my new record
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.
Amnesiac.
09-12-2003, 15:28
Think for yourself
Question authority
Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening,
terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in
this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the
religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by
giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their
view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and
learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness;
chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself.
Think for yourself.
Question authority.
rockavlon
09-12-2003, 15:39
orees malakies ... ntaks - einai mazohismos na thewreis oreous stixous pou brizoun osous de akolouthoun to diko sou kopadi...
den peirazei dwse ta lefta sou ston sold out kai kane autokolodaxtlyo...
XAIRE BATHOS AMETRHTO !!!
rockavlon
09-12-2003, 15:44
amnesiac epishs eisai xazoulis i to paizeis ... afieromeno se mpantes pou bgazoun box set twn 70 eurw....
ena box set pou kanei 70 eurw ... profanws tha exei X CD's mesa....
an dhladh bgaloun oi EPANASTATES sTOOL ena box set me X CD ... poso tha kanei ? einai pio fthna ta cd tous apo ta alla cd ?
oi stixoi einai toulaxiston paidikoi ....
Dying_Swan
09-12-2003, 16:13
Ma outws h allws den kanoun live oi Tool apoti kserw...Poly liga.
La8os. Briskontai sunexeia se periodeia. Mono fetos briskontai se pagwma epeidh o Maynard asxoleitai me tous Perfect Circle. Mexri perusi kanane periodeies ka8e xrono. Sthn agglia eixane er8ei 2 h 3 fores sunexomena (an 8umamai kala) kai se ozzfest klp. Me to pou 8a bare8ei o maynard tous APC 8a janabalei mpros tous tool.
Kai mhn akouw sysxetismous me Zeppelin plz...Giati prepei panta o anthrwpos na sygkrinei kati me kati allo gia na apodeiksei oti einai kalo?
Apo th mia exeis dikio, alla apo thn allh xreiazetai na dwsei kapoios na katalabei oti oi tool einai gia ta 90's k 00's o,ti oi zeppelin gia ta 70's (apo pleuras kainotomiwn kai prosforas sth mousikh, oxi apo pleuras mousikou stul)
Amnesiac.
09-12-2003, 16:18
mallon esy to paizeis xazoulis, i apla ksexases na diavaseis ayto : ola ayta dwro stous opadous gia na giortasoun ta X xronia apo tin idrysi tous.
anaferomoun stin koroidia tou na POULAS kati kai na to diafimizeis san dwro. eleos. den ypotima liiiiiigo ti noimosyni mas ayto?
ti paei na pei dld "vgazoume mia syllogi" gia na giortasoume tin idrysi mas/to reunion mas/tin egkymosyni tis katsikas mas?.
pws akrivws to giortazeis ayto? POULWNTAS kati stous opadous to opoio synithws den exei kamia aksia?
ntaks - einai mazohismos na thewreis oreous stixous pou brizoun osous de akolouthoun to diko sou kopadi...
xmm ayto katalaves apo tous PAIDIKOUS kata t'alla stixous?
an dhladh bgaloun oi EPANASTATES sTOOL ena box set me X CD ... poso tha kanei ? einai pio fthna ta cd tous apo ta alla cd ?
ENTELWS ksekarfwto. ti n'apantisw twra?
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rockavlon
09-12-2003, 16:40
apofeugeis n apanthseis ...
ti kako exoun ta anniversary albums ?? best of-s einai sths ousia.
an exeis tous diskous den t agorazeis poli aplo...
esy dhladh ti bgazeis apo tous stoixous - oti o apithanos mayard - pou fotografizetai me pantofles ?? stous APC !! kai bamena nyxakia :P
th leei se ena opado pou tou th leei epeidh kai kala ksepoulhse ki egine diashmos ... big shit ...
lost_icon
09-12-2003, 18:22
Loipon, tha eimai suntomi kai epigrammatiki (oso dunaton):
1) Oi Tool einai hdh klasiko sugkrotima kai nai, tolmw na pw oti mporoun na sugkrithoun me sugkrotimata terata allwn dekaetiwn. Apodeiksi? Deite posa sugkrotimata ksepidoun sunexeia kai "moiazoun me Tool" (pio swsta, thathelan na moiazoun me Tool).
2) Einai o orismos tou progressive hxou giati exoun paei ti mousiki ena bhma parapera (h kai perissotera.. :wink: )
3) Oloi oi Tool san proswpikotites einai enas ki enas. Kaneis den einai tuxaios h metrios. Oloi einai morphes kai standard arketa peiragmenoi. Diakaiologimeno an anlogistei kaneis ta kollimata me tous apokrufismous klp pou exoun!
4) Gia mena, ola tous ta album exoun mia fusiki ekselissimotita pros to kalutero se olous tous tomeis. Mousika, texnika, apo pleuras artwork, videoclips, stixwn klp. (Anupomonw trela gia to epomeno...yamyam)
5) TI PREPEI NA KANOUME GIA NA TOUS DOYME LIVE RE GAMWTO????? (Ektos apo to na kseniteutoume...)
dimitra etsi reeeee!!! tool re gamw re gamwwwww!!!!!
lost_icon
09-12-2003, 18:25
Think for yourself
Question authority
Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening,
terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in
this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the
religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by
giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their
view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and
learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness;
chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself.
Think for yourself.
Question authority.
o timothy learys xiixiixi!! :D
Dragonlord
09-12-2003, 18:38
o apithanos mayard - pou fotografizetai me pantofles ?? stous APC !!
wx!eixa vgei gia live me sagionares :shock:
ta megala pneumata synantiountai..
{NightStalker}
09-12-2003, 18:58
Emena pantws aytoi oi stixoi mou fernun sto mialo nu-metal/hardcore band...Oson afora gia ta box-set einai thema poroshs me to sygrotima.An eisai TRELA poromenos me tin X banda oti kai na vgalei tha to pareis kai tha peis kai eyxaristw.Dragonlord kai eis'anwtera :twisted:
pantws einai apo ta liga album pou den mporw na akousw sugkekrimena kommatia otan mprei prepei na akoustei olo apo thn arxh mexri to telos..
Swsto! :thumbsup2 Ksexasa na to pw ki auto sta xaraktiristika pou tous kanoun toso teleious!
Oso gia tin astral projection, ase, ti dokimasa mia, duo, treis, ftanei pia...Twra einai wra gia to Real Thing :)
Buddy Lackey
09-12-2003, 20:53
kala hremhste kai ligo e
edw oi idioi oi Tool den exoun kseperasei ta 70s kai theorite oti exoun isodynamh prosfora sthn mousiki px me 70s groups
epishs gia tous Black Sabbath fantazomai oti den tha legane tetoia logia sta 70s.
freak brother
09-12-2003, 22:42
o allos forage dope t-shirt xaoixaxoiaoixaixa kai eixe kai gnwmh gia tous tool.. eleos..
Amnesiac.
09-12-2003, 23:51
apofeugeis n apanthseis ...
ti kako exoun ta anniversary albums ?? best of-s einai sths ousia.
an exeis tous diskous den t agorazeis poli aplo...
xmm ayto de sou kanei gia apantisi?
anaferomoun stin koroidia tou na POULAS kati kai na to diafimizeis san dwro. eleos. den ypotima liiiiiigo ti noimosyni mas ayto?
ti paei na pei dld "vgazoume mia syllogi" gia na giortasoume tin idrysi mas/to reunion mas/tin egkymosyni tis katsikas mas?.
pws akrivws to giortazeis ayto? POULWNTAS kati stous opadous to opoio synithws den exei kamia aksia?
gia na mi milisoume gia ta 2-3 "akykloforita" skata pou vazoun synithws gia na to paroun kai oi fanatikoi.
i mallon tha milisoume kai tha milisoume kai gia tous stixous alla argotera, otan ksevarethw.
Amnesiac.
10-12-2003, 14:56
All you know about me is what I've sold you
[...]
All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on TV
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar
So...Shut up and
Buy my new record
Send more money
loipon kata ti gnwmi mou oi parapanw stixoi synopsizoun to noima tou tragoudiou. me to na lene kati tetoio oi Tool deixnoun pragmatiko sevasmo gia tous "opadous" tous (mou ti spaei ayti i leksi, giayto kai ta eisagwgika). den poulane agapi sto koino tous, apla tous ypenthymizoun pws o kathenas mporei na dilwnei o,ti malakia thelei kai na glyfei opoion thelei, se oles tis periptwseis omws to zitoumeno einai ta lefta tou akroati/katanalwti.
edw kollaei kai ayto pou eipa gia ta box sets, tis sylloges ktl. sta paparia mou an i kathe mpanta vgazei box set, mpaoulaki set,set sentoniwn me to logotypo tis grammeno panw, set tou tennis i o,tidipote skatoset thelei. alla to thewrw megisti ypokrisia kai ypotimisi tis noimosynis mas na vgainoun oi papares oi mousikoi kai na lene oti "to kaname gia tous opadous mas", "dwro pros aytous" ktl
e ante gamitheite kiolas, ta lefta tou kosmou pairnete, ayto einai to zitoumeno, mi mas poulate pseytoagapes. an pragmatika thelete na kanete dwrakia sto latremeno sas koino valte ta "ultimate fucking awesome" akykloforita tragoudia sas sto internet kai dwste ta dwrean stous opadous sas.
gia na mi grafw alla, to noima olwn twn parapanw einai akrivws ayto : eleos pia me tin koroidia, oloi oi mousikoi einai emporoi, poulane ti mousiki tous, den einai filanthrwpika idrymata, oute agioi vasilides na kanoun dwrakia, poutanes me paparia einai.
kai na fantasteite pws oi stixoi aytoi proerxontai apo ena sygkrotima pou parolo pou poulaei trela, vgazei disko kathe 4-5 xronia, den kykloforei singles pou exoun 7 euro kai periexoun kai live ekteleseis i akykloforita kommatia gia na ta tsimpisoun kai oi opadoi kai telos, den kanei radio edit ta kommatia tis gia na paixtoun sto radiofwno i tin tileorasi. ta videoclip tous einai 8lepta kai vale. ayto an mi ti allo deixnei oti sevontai tin idia ti mousiki tous panw ap'ola.
ayta pros to paron.
rockavlon
10-12-2003, 15:32
hm - eides pollous na bgainoun na lene oti kanoun dwro stous opadous tous ????
thelw na mou fereis ena paradeigma ENA MONO PARADEIGMA ....
pou kai na breis ...tropos tou legein dwro ... ama exeis diskografia to na
dwseis ston afwsiwmeno sou opado - ena remix i ena spanio kommati pou alliws den tha to akouge - dwro den einai ?
pianese apo lekseis ...
to an mia mpanta kykloforei oti kykloforei einai thema marketing... den ypoxrewnei kaneis ton opado na agorasei to single... oute otidhpote...
ki an to thes alliws pioi einai oi tool gia na bgoun na katakrinoun olous tous allous ...ki autoi se polyethnikes einai.
a oso gia to oti den bgazoun single ... ? giati exoun piasiarika kommatia ? alla exoun tous APC gia na ta pernoun apo tous opadous ... o kyrios akribodikaios mangiarnt pou ta pernei kai to leei...
san g kathgoria punk malakies einai ...
aaa btw eides LX oi maiden na kanoun project ???
auta ...
Amnesiac.
10-12-2003, 15:48
hm - eides pollous na bgainoun na lene oti kanoun dwro stous opadous tous ????
thelw na mou fereis ena paradeigma ENA MONO PARADEIGMA ....
pou kai na breis ...tropos tou legein dwro ... ama exeis diskografia to na
dwseis ston afwsiwmeno sou opado - ena remix i ena spanio kommati pou alliws den tha to akouge - dwro den einai ?
pianese apo lekseis ...
vsk de thymamai kai pollous pou DEN to exoun pei.pfff de thymamai apeksw sygkekrimeno paradeigma, prepei na psaksw se periodika kai variemai twra. xmm eimai sxedon sigouros oti ayto akrivws eipe o typos twn Running Wild alla kai genikotera exw tin entypwsi oti einai i stadar ataka olwn oswn "giortazoun" kati. twra an epimeneis s'ayto tha psaksw kai tha sou pw.
adynatw na katanoisw ti sxesi metaksy : a)tou na plirwsei o afwsiwmenos opados 20 euro gia na parei 20 tragoudia pou idi exei + 2 remixes, ante kai kana akykloforito kai b}enos dwrou. apo pote plirwneis gia ta dwra?
eleos dld, vazoun tous opadous na skasoun 20 euro (einai διπλά ta cdz vlepeis, panathema tous) gia na akousoun kana dyo tragoudia pou logika einai katwtera tis ypoloipis diskografias tou group kai to apokaloun ayto dwro?
to an mia mpanta kykloforei oti kykloforei einai thema marketing... den ypoxrewnei kaneis ton opado na agorasei to single... oute otidhpote...
ela twra. eisai kai esy opados kai katalavaineis pws einai na thes na exeis ta panta apo to agapimeno sou sygkrotima. kaneis den ypoxrewnei to prezaki na parei ti dosi tou, alla to kanei giati ti xreiazetai.
ki an to thes alliws pioi einai oi tool gia na bgoun na katakrinoun olous tous allous ...ki autoi se polyethnikes einai.
an paratiriseis tous stixous, gia ton eayto tous milane. de vgazoun tin oura tous apeksw. kai telos pantwn o kathenas krinetai apo tis prakeis tou, ti stasi tou ktl. to ti leei einai alli istoria.
a oso gia to oti den bgazoun single ... ? giati exoun piasiarika kommatia ? alla exoun tous APC gia na ta pernoun apo tous opadous ... o kyrios akribodikaios mangiarnt pou ta pernei kai to leei...
magkia tous pou ta pairnoun apo tous opadous vgazontas theiki mousiki kai to paradexontai kiolas. thewreis timioteri tin klasiki "me endiaferei mono i texni mou, oxi oi pwliseis" stasi twn perissoterwn "kallitexnwn" ?
san g kathgoria punk malakies einai ...
asxoliasto.
aaa btw eides LX oi maiden na kanoun project ???
dld me ayto ennoeis oti oi maiden den ekmetalleyontai tous opadous?
eleos dld, exoun kanei ena vrwmoreunion kai vgazoun dvd kathe mina. exoun parei osa perissotera mporoun apo tous opadous tous.de mporouses na vreis kapoio allo paradeigma? as eleges tous heavy load i tous ostrogoth kserw gw...alla maiden?
lost_icon
10-12-2003, 16:12
hm - eides pollous na bgainoun na lene oti kanoun dwro stous opadous tous ????
thelw na mou fereis ena paradeigma ENA MONO PARADEIGMA ....
pou kai na breis ...tropos tou legein dwro ... ama exeis diskografia to na
dwseis ston afwsiwmeno sou opado - ena remix i ena spanio kommati pou alliws den tha to akouge - dwro den einai ?
pianese apo lekseis ...
to an mia mpanta kykloforei oti kykloforei einai thema marketing... den ypoxrewnei kaneis ton opado na agorasei to single... oute otidhpote...
ki an to thes alliws pioi einai oi tool gia na bgoun na katakrinoun olous tous allous ...ki autoi se polyethnikes einai.
a oso gia to oti den bgazoun single ... ? giati exoun piasiarika kommatia ? alla exoun tous APC gia na ta pernoun apo tous opadous ... o kyrios akribodikaios mangiarnt pou ta pernei kai to leei...
san g kathgoria punk malakies einai ...
aaa btw eides LX oi maiden na kanoun project ???
auta ...
mhn anaferthoume stous maiden kai s.i.a. giati aftoi kai an to exoun paragamhsei to thema,box set tou box set kai dvd me to kilo kai singles afthona!.Poly apla gia mena oi maiden den mporoun na paiksoun kai tpt kalytero h diaforetiko apo afto pou paizoun opote menoun ekei pou einai sta idia (stasimothta ole kai sigouria) kai den asxolountai me project groups.Oi tool einai se polyethnikh (virgin) pou tous ta skaei xontra gia na ftiaxnoun ta kalytera video clip alla opws eipe kai o filtatos amnesiac den exw dei single h promo twn tool na exei radio edit ekdosh kapoiou kommatiou tous,ta atoma epimelountai ta panta oson afora ta tou album tous,kserete polla group na to kanoun afto? kai oson afora tous APC mallon agaphte rockavlon den tous exeis akousei kala h den thes na tous akouseis kai tous krazeis,aftaaa! :evil: :twisted:
rockavlon
10-12-2003, 16:27
ti malakies dysthxws akougame prosmenwntas ton dio ??? ! to idio monotono mougganhto... i beleive it ws APC.
basika -den tautizomai me prezaki - mousiki akouw ... den pairnw preza.
ligo atyxhs h paromoiwsh.
deuteron - an exeis diskografia ston poutso sou to best of.
skepsou to alliws - oloi autoi pou bgazoun remasters ktl me extra kai bonus. to kanoun polles fores epeidh ta albums exoun exantlhthei stis kanonikes tous kopes . giait na mh baloun bonus.
oi maiden bgalane ena box set me 3 dipla cd ... poso kanoun 3 dipla cds ?
toso ekane panw katw kai to kouti ... kai den ein asxhmo.
sto katw katw bre aderfe .... thelw otan ta skaw na akouw kati gia to opoio ta skasa.. thelw mousikh.
ki oxi ton kathe mparmpa na mou leei skasta mou - giati egw sta trww.
[b]kai na fantasteite pws oi stixoi aytoi proerxontai apo ena sygkrotima pou parolo pou poulaei trela, vgazei disko kathe 4-5 xronia, den kykloforei singles pou exoun 7 euro kai periexoun kai live ekteleseis i akykloforita kommatia gia na ta tsimpisoun kai oi opadoi kai telos, den kanei radio edit ta kommatia tis gia na paixtoun sto radiofwno i tin tileorasi. ta videoclip tous einai 8lepta kai vale. ayto an mi ti allo deixnei oti sevontai tin idia ti mousiki tous panw ap'ola.
Exeis akousei pote ton oro "marketing"? Eksallou h diskografikh tous tous proothei san o ntavatzhs thn poutana kai tous taizei mpoliko xrhma kai gia clips kai gia ta panta.. ti anagkh exoun?
Gia tous stixous de sxoliazo giati einai toulaxiston paidikoi. Gia to "editing" epishs giati den einai kai to pio "dyskolo" group tou planhth oi Tool.
PS: Opos katalavate akoma kai meta ta 10 clips pou katevasa de mou eipan tpt.. prospathisa toulaxiston :P Flame me now.
lost_icon
10-12-2003, 16:43
Exeis akousei pote ton oro "marketing"? Eksallou h diskografikh tous tous proothei san o ntavatzhs thn poutana kai tous taizei mpoliko xrhma kai gia clips kai gia ta panta.. ti anagkh exoun?
Gia tous stixous de sxoliazo giati einai toulaxiston paidikoi. Gia to "editing" epishs giati den einai kai to pio "dyskolo" group tou planhth oi Tool.
PS: Opos katalavate akoma kai meta ta 10 clips pou katevasa de mou eipan tpt.. prospathisa toulaxiston :P Flame me now.[/quote]
o oros marketing isxyei pantou alla to thema einai allo blitzer,esy p.x. den agorases to akoustiko album pou evgalan oi opeth? molis merikous mhnes apo to kanoniko tous album? opote otan orismenoi exoun xesmenh thn fwlia tous as mh milane gia group pou den kseroun,eoe :D
rockavlon
10-12-2003, 16:44
diabaza de kati alla megalourghmata sto http://www.toolbandlyrics.com
Disgustipated ...the cries of the carrots ... pou safws tha exei ena bathutero nohma e ???
telika oi Tool kanoun tous hammsterrfall na akougwntai sovaroi.
oi tool einai XIpiko punk.
olo fuck this kai kill that - san kompleksara - ontws paraponiarhs o typos.
daydreamer
10-12-2003, 16:49
Βασικά οι APC είναι side-project μονάχα του Maynard...
Οι Tool δεν είναι μονάχα ο Maynard...
Διαβάστε τους στίχους του Lateralus...
Suck and suuuuuuuck.
Suckin up all you can suckin up all you can suck and suck.
Workin up under my patience like a little tick.
Fat little parasite.
Suuuuuck me dry.
My blood is bruised and borrowed. You thieving bastards.
You have turned my blood cold and bitter,
beat my compassion black and blue!
Hope this is what you wanted.
Hope this is what you had in mind.
Cuz this is what you're getting.
I hope you're choking. I hope you choke on this.
I hope you're choking. I hope you choke on thiiiiiiiiiiiis.
Taken all I can taken all I can, we can take. Taken all you can taken all you can, we can take.
Got nothing left to give to you.
Blood suckin parasitic little blood suckin parasitic little blood suckin parasitic little tick!
Take what you want and then go.
Hope this is what you wanted.
Hope this is what you had in mind.
Cuz this is what you're getting.
{indistinct, quiet, about sucking dry...}
{6:09}
(Suuuuuck me dry! 2x)
Suuuuckin' me dry!
Suuuuuuck,
Suck me dry.
{indistinct, quiet, about sucking dry...}
Is this what you wanted?
Is this what you had in mind?
Is this what you wanted?
Cuz this this is what you're getting.
I hope, I hope, I hope you choke!
:roll: :?
daydreamer
10-12-2003, 17:03
Όλου του άλμπουμ...
rockavlon
10-12-2003, 17:19
problhmatikoi - problhmatismenoi - pyrobolhmenoi ... den diekdikoun kai kana brabeio....
sto lateralus kapws diabazontai...
daydreamer
10-12-2003, 17:30
sto lateralus kapws diabazontai...
Τα λεγα γω! :wink: :P
lost_icon
10-12-2003, 18:14
ti malakies dysthxws akougame prosmenwntas ton dio ??? ! to idio monotono mougganhto... i beleive it ws APC.
basika -den tautizomai me prezaki - mousiki akouw ... den pairnw preza.
ligo atyxhs h paromoiwsh.
deuteron - an exeis diskografia ston poutso sou to best of.
skepsou to alliws - oloi autoi pou bgazoun remasters ktl me extra kai bonus. to kanoun polles fores epeidh ta albums exoun exantlhthei stis kanonikes tous kopes . giait na mh baloun bonus.
oi maiden bgalane ena box set me 3 dipla cd ... poso kanoun 3 dipla cds ?
toso ekane panw katw kai to kouti ... kai den ein asxhmo.
sto katw katw bre aderfe .... thelw otan ta skaw na akouw kati gia to opoio ta skasa.. thelw mousikh.
ki oxi ton kathe mparmpa na mou leei skasta mou - giati egw sta trww.
oso gia afto pou eipes gia ta remasters exeis dikio alla ase tous maiden re rockavlon,eleos! twra tha peis oti oi maiden einai eilikrineis me to koino tous kai den exoun vgalei kamia 10aria best of me apokoryfwma mia mlkia pou eida se ena diskopwleio (edward the great legotan nomizw kai eixe ton eddie apeksw se throno) kai mou anevhke h piesh (kai eimai kai se krisimh hlikia) kai skefthka "pali best of reee?" to best of the beast eksantlithike kai afto? h mhpws sxediazoun na to epanakykloforhsoun remastered? LOOL! ntaks oi maiden einai gia polla gelia sta geramata!!!!
akouw aftous tous anathematismenous tous TOOL edw kai 2 xronia kai den exw metanoiwsei stigmh gia thn paramikrh dekara pou exw dwsei gia thn parth tous,eite einai cd tous afto eite to polypothito box-set pou gia ta lefta pou to agorasa (20 euro parakalw) eixe para polla pragmata (ena cd me akykloforhta kai live kai ena dvd me ola ta videos tous).kai tha mporouse kapoios parakalw na tous krinei me epeixhrhmata? :twisted:
lost_icon
10-12-2003, 18:23
diabaza de kati alla megalourghmata sto http://www.toolbandlyrics.com
Disgustipated ...the cries of the carrots ... pou safws tha exei ena bathutero nohma e ???
telika oi Tool kanoun tous hammsterrfall na akougwntai sovaroi.
oi tool einai XIpiko punk.
olo fuck this kai kill that - san kompleksara - ontws paraponiarhs o typos.
xipiko punk? LOOL! ee afou den einai kai tsamiko pali kala xaxxaxaxaxaxa!!!! :lol: :lol:
Amnesiac.
10-12-2003, 18:56
[zER]
Exeis akousei pote ton oro "marketing"? Eksallou h diskografikh tous tous proothei san o ntavatzhs thn poutana kai tous taizei mpoliko xrhma kai gia clips kai gia ta panta.. ti anagkh exoun?
Gia tous stixous de sxoliazo giati einai toulaxiston paidikoi. Gia to "editing" epishs giati den einai kai to pio "dyskolo" group tou planhth oi Tool.
PS: Opos katalavate akoma kai meta ta 10 clips pou katevasa de mou eipan tpt.. prospathisa toulaxiston :P Flame me now.
siga mi se vrisw kiolas. oxi oti den to kanw pote, kathe allo, apla variemai twra kai metaksy mas, den yparxei kai logos.
an sou fainontai paidikoi oi stixoi twn tool, ok de me endiaferei na sou allaksw gnwmi.
kai sigoura de thes na ksereis ti gnwmi mou gia tous stixous twn opeth.
oi tool einai dyskolo sygkrotima opws kai na to kanoume. kai pithanotata aytos einai o logos pou de sou aresoun, den tous exeis akousei poly mallon.
p.s. spoudazw Marketing sto Oikonomiko Panepistimio Athinwn edw kai 4 xronia. ara ton exw akousei ton oro.
symposium_lexotanil
10-12-2003, 19:37
xaaxaxax tous stixous pou postare o warlord san paradeigma geloion/ilithion ktl tous eixa postarei sto topik "theikoi stixoi".psofao kanonika.
warlord i hope this is what u wanted
hope this is what u had in mind
cuz this is what u r gettin..
twra choke on this
xazouli
Amnesiac.
10-12-2003, 19:39
einai Swordbrother.
den akouei xipiko punk.
o oros marketing isxyei pantou alla to thema einai allo blitzer,esy p.x. den agorases to akoustiko album pou evgalan oi opeth? molis merikous mhnes apo to kanoniko tous album? opote otan orismenoi exoun xesmenh thn fwlia tous as mh milane gia group pou den kseroun,eoe
De milame gia to ti agorazo ego h o kathenas, alla gia to ti kryvei h kathe douleia.
Giati exo xesmenh th folia mou? Den katalava. Edo milame gia ena group pou to sproxnei POLYETHNIKH kai gia ena group pou molis prin 2 xronia vghke apo thn afaneia MONO TOU (mh mou peis oti tous voithane ta periodika giati de nomizo na plhronoun ta periodika gia thn proothish :P).
Alla epeidh milhses sygkekrimena: To "akoustiko" album htan h synexeia tou Deliverance. Sto symvolaio tous metrhsan kai ta 2 san ENA album.. plhroforiaka. Epishs oi Opeth den pairnoun osa lefta pairnoun oi Tool apo tis douleies tous (oute gia asteio), oute trone tetoia proothish, oute exoun panakrives computerised paragoges clips, oute .. oute .. ta mona lefta pou vgazoun einai apo ta live tous.
siga mi se vrisw kiolas. oxi oti den to kanw pote, kathe allo, apla variemai twra kai metaksy mas, den yparxei kai logos.
an sou fainontai paidikoi oi stixoi twn tool, ok de me endiaferei na sou allaksw gnwmi.
kai sigoura de thes na ksereis ti gnwmi mou gia tous stixous twn opeth.
oi tool einai dyskolo sygkrotima opws kai na to kanoume. kai pithanotata aytos einai o logos pou de sou aresoun, den tous exeis akousei poly mallon.
p.s. spoudazw Marketing sto Oikonomiko Panepistimio Athinwn edw kai 4 xronia. ara ton exw akousei ton oro.
Um.. nai mou fainontai paidikoi, alla kai arketoi stixoi ton Opeth mou fainontai psilomalakies. Tous theoro poly metrious stixourgika (eksallou de vrisketai ekei to zoumi tous), alla toulaxiston exoun mia aksioprepeia.
O logos pou de mou aresoun einai oti mousika mou thymizoun nu group me kapoies progressive epirroes gia na entyposiazoun (mono pou emena den).. to exo ksanapei ayto. Btw akousa ena kommataki APC kai mou arese :P
Tespa to thema mas den einai Tool vs Opeth. Entelos diaforetika groups. To thema mas einai MHPOS oi Tool exoun yperektimithei... xezoun kai vgazoun triantafylla.. Dld syzhtao me diaforous kai an de sou aresoun oi Tool eisai asxetos, amousos, koufos kai ksero go ti allo. An einai dynaton. Mou thymizei kati atomakia pou mou legan (pane xronia) oti de mporo na theoritho metallas epeidh de goustaro Priest kai Motorhead.. lol dld.
PS: Tha eprepe na sou leei kati tote. Milame gia mousikh viomhxania.. TA PANTA einai thema marketing.
daydreamer
10-12-2003, 21:20
Οι Tool δεν είναι υπερεκτιμημένοι...
ναι όταν χέζουν βγάζουν τριαντάφυλλα, αλλα δυστυχώς δεν χέζουν συχνά :(
Amnesiac.
11-12-2003, 00:08
xmm synithws apokaloume ena sygkrotima "yperektimimeno" otan gnwrizei megali epityxia kai mas de mas aresei katholou.
einai psiloadynato na yparksoun antikeimenika kritiria gia to an kati einai yperektimimeno i oxi.
oi tool einai i agapimeni mou mpanta mazi me tous radiohead, thewrw ti mousiki tous ekswpragmatiki kai ara de tous thewrw yperektimimenous.
marketing den einai ta panta/ta panda, einai kapws sygkekrimena ta pragmata, alla entaksei ksefeygoume apo to thema.
Yperektimhmeno theoreitai kati otan tygxanei megalyterhs anagnorishs ap'oti aksizei. "Aksizei" me vash panta ta osa prosferei. Oi Iced Earth px einai (htan toulaxiston) ena yperektimhmeno group sthn Ellada, giati einai kouloi kai oloi tous eksymnousan :P
Tous Tool sygkekrimena tous theoro yperektimhmenous, oxi epeidh de mou aresoun h epeidh einai kouloi, alla epeidh pantou akouo gi'aytous kai den tous vrisko kai tooooso tromerous mousikous. Eite synthetika, eite ektelestika.
Den exo tpt me to group (eno me tous Earth exo :P) kai prospathisa na akouso, apla den einai to styl mou. To oti oloi tous theopoioun pantos me prodiathetei arnhtikotata... me ekneyrizei ayto to pragma. Gia opoiodhpote group, oxi mono gi'aytous.
Anywayz..
PS: Btw akouste to riff tou "Schism" (an kai eimai sigouros oti sas exei kollhsei sto myalo) kai akouste kai to "Flight Over Rio" tou Al DiMeola.
PS2: Kano oti mporo na krino panta antikeimenika kai vasismenos stis mousikes mou gnoseis (kati antikeimenika apodekto), para sto gousto mou (pou eks'orismou einai ypokeimeniko).
rockavlon
11-12-2003, 01:03
speaking of radio head oi darkness kanoun zwntana to street spirit me big guitars kai akougeti 10 fores kalytero apo to original
daydreamer
11-12-2003, 03:08
[zER]PS2: Kano oti mporo na krino panta antikeimenika kai vasismenos stis mousikes mou gnoseis (kati antikeimenika apodekto), para sto gousto mou (pou eks'orismou einai ypokeimeniko).
Όμως οι μουσικές γνώσεις δεν περιέχουν και το συναίσθημα που βγάζει ένα κομμάτι, αυτό είναι μονάχα υποκειμενικό και αφορά το γούστο του καθενός (αλλά και άλλα όπως την ψυχολογική κατάστασή του κλπ).
Πάντως καταλαβαίνω τι εννοείς με το ότι όλοι τους έχουν θεοποιήσει και ότι αυτό σε χαλάει, μου'χει συμβεί αρκετές φορές και δε μου βγήκε πάντα σε καλό (πχ. White Stripes, The Strokes..)
Όμως οι μουσικές γνώσεις δεν περιέχουν και το συναίσθημα που βγάζει ένα κομμάτι, αυτό είναι μονάχα υποκειμενικό και αφορά το γούστο του καθενός (αλλά και άλλα όπως την ψυχολογική κατάστασή του κλπ).
Agreed.. den to eixa skeftei etsi gia na eimai eilikrinhs.
Apla ksero na ksexorizo to "aytos einai gamo tous mousikous" apo to "ayton ton goustaro poly". Oi perissoteroi den to kanoun kai prospathoun na me peisoun oti adikos theoro kapoion metrio mousiko, mono kai mono epeidh de mou aresei. Allo to ena, allo to allo. Akouo ki ego groups pou ta theoro metriotata mousika, alla sigoura exoun kati pou mou aresei. Ayto de shmainei oti tha vgo na fonazo oti einai theoi.. kai to antitheto fysika.
The Butcher
11-12-2003, 05:11
blizer mou fainetai tha sou tin poun gia to neo sou avatar... :P
sorry gia tin paremvasi, k gia na min eimai k off topic: OI TOOL GAMANE!!! 8)
Chopped In Half
11-12-2003, 10:12
Και εγώ θέλω να το γαμήσω.
Αντικειμενικά πάντα.-
xaaxaxax tous stixous pou postare o warlord san paradeigma
geloion/ilithion ktl tous eixa postarei sto topik "theikoi stixoi".psofao kanonika.
warlord i hope this is what u wanted
hope this is what u had in mind
cuz this is what u r gettin..
twra choke on this
xazouli
Thavmaste sevasmo sthn diaforetikh gnomh kai th dhmokratikothta tou er...
Poios sou eipe oti tous theoro geleious/ ilithious tous stixous? KAKOUS tous theoro, aneksarthta tou periexomenou tous...
Tosa suuuuuuuuck se 10 grammes stixous, ksepernoun kai ta kill tou kill with power.
Dragonlord
11-12-2003, 12:16
Thavmaste sevasmo sthn diaforetikh gnomh kai th dhmokratikothta tou er...
pff..έσβησε κανείς το post σου?Το er τι έχει να κάνει με την άποψη του sympo?Για άλλη μία φορά,άμα για κάποιο λόγο που αδυνατώ να κατανοήσω αισθάνεσαι πως καταπιέζεσαι,μπορείς απλά να (ξανα)σταματήσεις να postάρεις.Δεν καταλαβαίνω γιατί γκρινιάζεις.Όσο σε "πρόσβαλλε" με το να σε λέει χαζούλη,άλλο τόσο τον "πρόσβαλλες" κι εσυ με το να παρουσιάζεις ως κακούς στίχους που αυτός θεωρεί θεϊκούς και που τον έχουν αγγίξει (ελπίζω όχι όπως τον αγγίζω εγώ)
Dragonlord
11-12-2003, 12:24
Και επί του θέματος,όσοι στίχοι tool παρουσιάστηκαν εδώ μ'άρεσαν πόλύ (αν και δεν τρελαίνομαι για tool).Είναι αλήθεια πως πολύ συχνά τα groups όταν βγάζουν best of λένε πως είναι "δώρο για τους οπαδούς τους" και είναι πολύ εκνευριστικό/υποκριτικό.Το μόνο που λένε οι tool είναι πως εφόσον ζητάς χρήματα για τη μουσική σου,είσαι έμπορος και δεν έχει νόημα να το παίζεις τρου.Άμα αγαπάς τόσο πολύ τους οπαδούς σου,βγάλτα όλα τσάμπα στο internet όπως είπε κι ο Amnesiac.Δεν καταλαβαίνω γιατί σας κακοφάνηκε αυτό,μάλλον μόνο από αντίδραση στον Amnesiac κατακρίνετε τη στάση των tool
Amnesiac.
11-12-2003, 12:25
[zER]Tous Tool sygkekrimena tous theoro yperektimhmenous, oxi epeidh de mou aresoun h epeidh einai kouloi, alla epeidh pantou akouo gi'aytous kai den tous vrisko kai tooooso tromerous mousikous. Eite synthetika, eite ektelestika.
s'ayto anaferomoun milwntas gia ypokeimenikotita ktl. tous thewreis yperektimimenous epeidi ayto pou esy exeis akousei den antapokrinetai sti theopoiisi twn allwn.
To oti oloi tous theopoioun pantos me prodiathetei arnhtikotata... me ekneyrizei ayto to pragma. Gia opoiodhpote group, oxi mono gi'aytous.
xmm ok se olous symvainei ayto, s'allous se megalo, s'allous se mikrotero vathmo. alla mipws ayto mas kanei na xanoume tin ousia kai mas sterei ti dynatotita na akousoume kati pou ypo alles synthikes tha goustarame poly?
Amnesiac.
11-12-2003, 12:34
(ελπίζω όχι όπως τον αγγίζω εγώ)
ante gamisou.
Όσο σε "πρόσβαλλε" με το να σε λέει χαζούλη,άλλο τόσο τον "πρόσβαλλες" κι εσυ με το να παρουσιάζεις ως κακούς στίχους που αυτός θεωρεί θεϊκούς και που τον έχουν αγγίξει (ελπίζω όχι όπως τον αγγίζω εγώ)
Exeis apolyto dikio...
Einai akrivos to idio pragma na vrizeis ton allo me to na les oti oi x stixoi einai kakoi...
rockavlon
11-12-2003, 12:42
pwpw - m aresei i logikh bgalta sto net tsampa .. kala ektos tou oti tha sta bgalei kapoios allos - thes de thes - oloi autoi prosferoun ena proion. exeis dei pollous na xarizoun to proion tous ??? mallon oxi. bges esy kai kanto an thes. den einai swsto na ta bazeis ola se ena tsoubali. px pare tous kiss .to leei ki o simmons oti einai emporos. mono pou bgazei kai gamw tis mousikes, den kathete na grapsei this sucks, that fucks, ktl ktl.. me tetoies genikeuseis...
deutero - tropos tou legein dwro - pou sinhthws ante na to pei kapoios se mia rare & live syllogh l.x. oxi se ena opoiodhpote best...
Amnesiac.
11-12-2003, 12:48
asynartisies.
san tous stixous ton tool ena prama...
Amnesiac.
11-12-2003, 12:55
ena prama NA.
Dragonlord
11-12-2003, 12:55
pwpw - m aresei i logikh bgalta sto net tsampa .. kala ektos tou oti tha sta bgalei kapoios allos - thes de thes - oloi autoi prosferoun ena proion. exeis dei pollous na xarizoun to proion tous ??? mallon oxi. bges esy kai kanto an thes. den einai swsto na ta bazeis ola se ena tsoubali. px pare tous kiss .to leei ki o simmons oti einai emporos. mono pou bgazei kai gamw tis mousikes, den kathete na grapsei this sucks, that fucks, ktl ktl.. me tetoies genikeuseis...
Μα συμφωνώ,το ίδιο ακριβώς λένε και οι tool.Οι στίχοι τους προσωπικά μου αρέσουν πάρα πολύ και αν μου άρεσε περισσότερο η μουσική τους θα ήμουν πολύ ευχαριστημένος από το όλο πακέτο.Τώρα τα sucks κλπ έχουν δωθεί με πολύ καλλιτεχνικό τρόπο,σε αντίθεση πχ με τα "cause we got the balls to play the loudest metal,so hard and wild and mean" των ManowaR (λέμε τώρα).Ok μπορεί να μη σας αρέσουν,αλλά μου φαίνεται πως τους θάβετε απλά και μόνο επειδή δε σας έχουν κάτσει καλά,προσπαθώντας να παραθέσετε "επιχειρήματα" που εμένα μου φαίνονται παιδικά.Πες "δε μου αρέσουν" και θα γίνει σεβαστό από όλους..
Dragonlord
11-12-2003, 12:57
Όσο σε "πρόσβαλλε" με το να σε λέει χαζούλη,άλλο τόσο τον "πρόσβαλλες" κι εσυ με το να παρουσιάζεις ως κακούς στίχους που αυτός θεωρεί θεϊκούς και που τον έχουν αγγίξει (ελπίζω όχι όπως τον αγγίζω εγώ)
Exeis apolyto dikio...
Einai akrivos to idio pragma na vrizeis ton allo me to na les oti oi x stixoi einai kakoi...
Τι βρίσιμο μωρέ,που σου είπε οτι είσαι χαζούλης?Πες το στην κυρία να τον επιπλήξει
rockavlon
11-12-2003, 13:00
les re warlord na arxisw na grafw ki egw san tool?
your fuckin reality sucks bigtime and the illusion of confusion sucks too
i need it to be alive so i can breathe ... get me out of here before i suck the big black hole that spits me out.
pw sTOOL !!!! kryfteitai erxetai o tzimanyard
les na ginw o neos theos twn erwteumenwn poustakiwn ?
epigwntos logotexniko brabeio ston psagmeno episkopo manyrd.
entaksei kalo einai na exoume gnwmes - alla na thelei kaneis na tis parousiasei ws theikes ...
kai axamnez - diabse ligo tis asynarthsies mou. mporei ontws na nai asynarthtes - afou epeiza olh nyxta prince of persia - alla apantane sta parapanw posts. sto peripou
rockavlon
11-12-2003, 13:03
giait prospathoun oi manowar na to paiksoun psagmenoi ? mipos den exoun kai kalous stixous ? bl mountains ? san paradeigma ...
kala to oti den m aresoun einai dedomeno.
giait prospathoun oi manowar na to paiksoun psagmenoi ? mipos den exoun kai kalous stixous ? bl mountains ? san paradeigma ...
kala to oti den m aresoun einai dedomeno.
well said.
Amnesiac.
11-12-2003, 13:14
ti mia les oti oloi einai emporoi, tin alli les malakes tous tool epeidi lene oti oloi einai emporoi.
mou fainetai asynartisia ayto, don't ya think?
symfwnw me dragonlord (ase katw to sympo gamw to xristo sou)
mou fainetai oti ola legontai apla epeidi de sas aresoun oi sTool.
twra mi me valeis na psaksw paradeigmata sygkrotimatwn pou kykloforoun sylloges ktl kai tis parousiazoun san dwro, xanoume kai tin ousia sti teliki, ena aplo paradeigma koroidias itan, makari natan i moni.
Dragonlord
11-12-2003, 13:17
Οι Manowar έχουν και ωραίους στίχους (λίγους).Τους ανέφερα για να μην παρεξηγηθώ,επειδή είναι group που μου αρέσει.Δεν είχα καταλάβει πως το θέμα είναι πως οι tool το παίζουν ψαγμένοι.Εμένα για "ψαγμένοι" στίχοι μου αρέσουν,και γενικότερα οι tool έχουν δείξει πως έχουν και αισθητική και ένα άλφα IQ,οπότε μου φαίνεται τους παίρνει.Τώρα το κατα πόσο το παίζουν ψαγμένοι ή όντως είναι,έλα μου ντε.Δεν είμαι στο μυαλό τους,και στο κάτω κάτω όπως πολύ έξυπνα λένε και οι ίδιοι,we only know about them what they have sold us.Περί ορέξεως κλπ
rockavlon
11-12-2003, 13:25
tespa egkataleipw th syzhthsh afou den bgazei kai pouthena.
opinions are like arseholes.
I had a friend once he took some acid
Now he thinks he's a fire engine
It's okay until he pisses on your lighter
Kinda smells kinda cool kinda funny anyway
satan, satan, satan...
I had a friend once he took some ecstasy
Tried to marry me and every one in the room
He was sort of loving kinda caring,
kinda tried to fuck my lazy boy
It got a bit messy all over the curtains,
arm chair covers, throw pillows, and carpeting
satan, satan, satan...
I'm getting bored again...
eimai xazoulis eimai xazoulis eimai xazoulis eimai xazoulis eimai xazoulis
satan satan satan
rockavlon
11-12-2003, 13:35
xaxaxaxa
ou 666
Amnesiac.
11-12-2003, 13:41
all men play on 10.
rockavlon
11-12-2003, 13:46
den ein to idio . to all men play on 10 bgazei nohma. oti o typos thelei na paizei me ton enisxyth sto 10. to apo panw - prospathw na brw to nohma ki to iq - alla oso ki an prospathw adynatw...
satan satan satan
lost_icon
11-12-2003, 13:58
ellhnes metallades inc. :twisted:
ellhnes metallades inc.
Gia pes mas kai mas tous xazoulides metallades ti thelei na pei o poihths...mister enlighted after metal philospher...
It's okay until he pisses on your lighter
TA SPAO!!!
Dragonlord
11-12-2003, 14:20
Μ'αρέσει η σχέση που έχετε με την τέχνη.Λυπάμαι που βρίσκετε νόημα μόνο σε τόσο χειροπιαστά πράματα όπως το all men play on ten.
This is a cat.
This is a door.
rockavlon
11-12-2003, 14:26
h opws leei ki o poulikakos - sto loufa kai paralagh - this is a pipe. auto einai mia pipa!
lost_icon
11-12-2003, 15:11
ellhnes metallades inc.
Gia pes mas kai mas tous xazoulides metallades ti thelei na pei o poihths...mister enlighted after metal philospher...
It's okay until he pisses on your lighter
TA SPAO!!!
den to paizw epifwtismenos meta metal filosofos alla otan den mou aresei kati kserw na to tekmhriwsw kai oxi na lew aerologies tou typou "xipiko punk" kai na koroidevw kati pou den kserw,aftaaa :lol: :lol:
Μ'αρέσει η σχέση που έχετε με την τέχνη.Λυπάμαι που βρίσκετε νόημα μόνο σε τόσο χειροπιαστά πράματα όπως το all men play on ten.
This is a cat.
This is a door.
Eisai xazoulis...
Ektos apo tous tool kai tous Manowar den yparxoun alla groups...
Den yparxei as poume o Peart pou grafei POIHSH xoris na katafevgei se paradoksologies kai ampelofilosofies...
ME LENE ARTEMH
Dragonlord
11-12-2003, 15:43
Ρε μαλάκα στα παπάρια μου,κι εγώ γουστάρω Rush.Αυτό σημαίνει πως οι στίχοι των τουλ είναι σκατά επειδή δεν είναι στο ίδιο στυλ?Ούτε ο Peart γράφει τους πιο δυσνόητους στίχους ever.Προσπάθησε να καταλάβεις πως η τέχνη υποτίθεται σε κάνει να αισθανθείς πράγματα.Το ΠΩΣ θα το πετύχει αυτό,λίγη σημασία έχει.Εφόσον οι tool καταφέρνουν να "μιλήσουν" σε πολλούς,ποιό σκατά είναι το δικό σου πρόβλημα?Πες ok δεν καταλαβαίνω αυτή τη μορφή τέχνης.Τι προσπαθείς να δείξεις,οτι εσύ ακούς "καλά" ενώ οι άλλοι "κακά" πράγματα?Ωραία,με έπεισες πως οι tool έχουν κακούς στίχους.Από δω και πέρα όταν τους ακούω θα αισθάνομαι κατώτερος και θα ντρέπομαι που οι στίχοι τους με αγγίζουν.Είμαι ποταπός.
Amnesiac.
11-12-2003, 15:50
hey mamen, are you loco??
don't fuck with him, he's a Swordbrother.
Ρε μαλάκα στα παπάρια μου,κι εγώ γουστάρω Rush.Αυτό σημαίνει πως οι στίχοι των τουλ είναι σκατά επειδή δεν είναι στο ίδιο στυλ?Ούτε ο Peart γράφει τους πιο δυσνόητους στίχους ever.Προσπάθησε να καταλάβεις πως η τέχνη υποτίθεται σε κάνει να αισθανθείς πράγματα.Το ΠΩΣ θα το πετύχει αυτό,λίγη σημασία έχει.Εφόσον οι tool καταφέρνουν να "μιλήσουν" σε πολλούς,ποιό σκατά είναι το δικό σου πρόβλημα?Πες ok δεν καταλαβαίνω αυτή τη μορφή τέχνης.Τι προσπαθείς να δείξεις,οτι εσύ ακούς "καλά" ενώ οι άλλοι "κακά" πράγματα?Ωραία,με έπεισες πως οι tool έχουν κακούς στίχους.Από δω και πέρα όταν τους ακούω θα αισθάνομαι κατώτερος και θα ντρέπομαι που οι στίχοι τους με αγγίζουν.Είμαι ποταπός.
:D
H plaka einai oti sthn ousia tou thematos symfonoume!!
Den prospatho na deikso tipota, thn prosopikh mou apopsh gia tous stixous ton tool ekfrazo kai malista parathetontas oloklhra tragoudia tous pou pragmatika gia mena einai asteia kai epitidevmena "psagmena" sto styl tou "me lene artemh". Kai se antithesh me tous perissoterous edo, leo oti endexomenos na einai pragmatika "anoterh morfh texnhs" pou ego adynato na katalavo...
O amnesiak mou thymizei to anekdoto "giati den foras to kranos sou"?
Kathe fora pou tha diafonisoume, meta apo ligo petaei tis paparies tou peri swordbrothers kai manowar...
Skepsou (ma ti zhtao kai go o malakas tora...) re sy kati kainourgio gia na "mou thn peis", ayta ta exo varethei.
Amnesiac.
11-12-2003, 16:23
Kai se antithesh me tous perissoterous edo, leo oti endexomenos na einai pragmatika "anoterh morfh texnhs" pou ego adynato na katalavo...
ouf...pou akrivws to les ayto? i mallon epeidi fantazomai tin apantisi sou, exeis tin entypwsi oti ayto afineis na ennoithei apo ta posts tou? i mipws simainei oti epeidi to les, to pisteyeis kiolas? alla kai na to pisteyeis ti se kanei na nomizeis oti isxyei? oti ontws dld den eisai "oloklirwtikos" apenanti stous tool?
ayta peri swordbrothers itan i apantisi mou stous ilithious stixous twn sTool pou postares. de mporw na fantastw kati pio ilithio/paidiko apo ena tragoudi pou sto refrain leei "we're swrodbrothers", alla endexomenos na einai pragmatika "anoterh morfh texnhs" pou ego adynato na katalavo... :twisted:
Dragonlord
11-12-2003, 16:34
thn prosopikh mou apopsh gia tous stixous ton tool ekfrazo kai malista parathetontas oloklhra tragoudia tous pou pragmatika gia mena einai asteia kai epitidevmena "psagmena" sto styl tou "me lene artemh". Kai se antithesh me tous perissoterous edo, leo oti endexomenos na einai pragmatika "anoterh morfh texnhs" pou ego adynato na katalavo...
Poios sou eipe oti tous theoro geleious/ ilithious tous stixous? KAKOUS tous theoro
xazouli
Eisai xazoulis...
eimai xazoulis eimai xazoulis eimai xazoulis eimai xazoulis eimai xazoulis
Skepsou (ma ti zhtao kai go o malakas tora...) re sy kati kainourgio gia na "mou thn peis"
alla endexomenos na einai pragmatika "anoterh morfh texnhs" pou ego adynato na katalavo...
mpaa gia sena den xreiazetai na einai kai idiaitera anoterh h texnh gia na mhn th katalaveis
daydreamer
11-12-2003, 18:58
Οι στίχοι των Tool μπορεί να φαντάζουν χαζοί και παιδικοί αλλά σε συνάρτηση με τη μουσική και την υπέρτατη ατμόσφαιρα που έχουν ανεβαίνουν πολλά επίπεδα...
...ακούστε το Lateralus μέχρι να ματώσουν τα αυτιά σας...
lost_icon
11-12-2003, 19:14
Οι στίχοι των Tool μπορεί να φαντάζουν χαζοί και παιδικοί αλλά σε συνάρτηση με τη μουσική και την υπέρτατη ατμόσφαιρα που έχουν ανεβαίνουν πολλά επίπεδα...
...ακούστε το Lateralus μέχρι να ματώσουν τα αυτιά σας...
daydreamah all men play on ten reeee,se parakalw mh rixneis to epipedo ths syzhthshs,akous ekei TOOL ts ts ts :lol: :lol: :lol:
Buddy Lackey
11-12-2003, 19:18
mpravo gia anti-paradeigma se kati xazo, fernete kati xazotero, ara apodeiksate oti afto pou yperaspizete den einai xazo
lost_icon
11-12-2003, 19:24
mpravo gia anti-paradeigma se kati xazo, fernete kati xazotero, ara apodeiksate oti afto pou yperaspizete den einai xazo
esy den prepei na milas,oust apo dw :evil: :lol:
Dragonlord
11-12-2003, 20:40
mpravo gia anti-paradeigma se kati xazo, fernete kati xazotero, ara apodeiksate oti afto pou yperaspizete den einai xazo
απλά,αν κάποιος ακούει πχ venom και κατηγορεί ως "κουλούς" τους maiden είναι άκυρος
Buddy Lackey
11-12-2003, 21:41
nai ok alla o sigekrimenos tipas px mporei na paradexetai oti kai oi venom einai kouloi
This thread is fun. :D
Den diafwneite toso giati de sas aresoun ta groups pou para8etete alla mallon giati exete provlhma me tous opadous tous. Etsi deixnete toulaxiston.
Opoia pleura nikhsei kerdizei loukoumi me mygdalo mesa.
Solo Carriera
21-12-2003, 02:14
wraia to kleise to thread h ang.
Amnesiac.
22-12-2003, 00:57
to ksananoigw.
Prison Sex
It took so long to remember just what happened.
I was so young and vestal then,
you know it hurt me,
but I'm breathing so I guess I'm still alive
even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
I've got my hands bound,
my head down , my eyes closed,
and my throat wide open.
Do unto others what has been done to you
I'm treading water,
I need to sleep a while.
My lamb and martyre, you look so precious.
Won't you come a bit closer,
close enough so I can smell you.
I need you to feel this,
I can't stand to burn too long.
Released in this sodomy.
For one sweet moment I am whole.
Do unto you now what has been done to me.
You're breathing so I guess you're still alive
even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
Won't you come just a bit closer,
close enough so I can smell you.
I need you to feel this.
I need this to make me whole.
There's release in this sodomy.
For I am your witness that
blood and flesh can be trusted.
And only this one holy medium brings me piece of mind.
Got your hands bound, your head down,
your eyes closed.
You look so precious now.
I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this
shit blood and cum on my hands.
I've come round full circle.
My lamb and martyr, this will be over soon.
You look so precious.
symposium_lexotanil
22-12-2003, 02:25
xaxaaxax kairo eixa na to koitakso auto to thread
psofao kanonika
mothers against stool
zito sygnomi apo ton warlord.den einai xazoulis.
einai kathysterimenos
to dimokratiko er sas kalosorizei
speaking of radio head oi darkness kanoun zwntana to street spirit me big guitars kai akougeti 10 fores kalytero apo to original
10 fores xeirotero.
oxi oti einai asximo... sigritika, panta.
Solo Carriera
22-12-2003, 04:22
to mono tragoudi pou exw akouei apo darkness (to "hitaki" tous, love is a beautiful thing h kati tetoio) einai asteio. Nai, ok, gia to xavale kaloi einai alla ws ekei. Vrikes sigkrotima na sigkrineis me radiohead.
Den nomizw oti oi stixoi twn Tool einai kai toso dyskoloi. Mia akrh thn vgazeis, ase pou eisai eleytheros na katalaveris oti thes. Egw tous stixous twn radiohead den katalavainw. Katholou ma katholou. oute kai ta artwork tous.
irreligious
23-12-2003, 22:20
yesterday i woke up sucking a lemon... :roll:
rincewind2k
23-12-2003, 22:24
oi stixoi sto kid a einai random fraseis. kai apokleietai na exeis katalabei (pragmatika) etsi eykola tous stixous twn tool (aenima&lateralus)
symposium_lexotanil
25-12-2003, 13:29
edo mesa oi misoi katalavainoun me ti mia tis tainies tou lynts pou den tis katalavainei oute o idios.stous stixous ton tool tha kolosoun?psilopramata
opa miso. Den eipa egw oti katalava tous Tool. Alla mia akrh toulaxiston vgazw. Eksallou pote den tha matheis ti akrivws ithele na pei o poihths. Ara?
Ego katalavaino to Mulholland to Lost Highway itan ante geia. De ftaio ego pou eisai xazos sympo kai kathusterimenos kai upervlammenos.
Amnesiac.
27-12-2003, 17:23
ypervlammenos eimai egw.
ksekolla malaka.
Aha,tool thread...???Well,einai periergo alla ontws mou einai polu duskolos o sxoliasmos-perigrafi tou sugkekrimenou album!Isws giati ta logia einai polu liga na perigrapsoun to alithino megaleio tou?Isws giati einai upermetra duskolo na perigrapsw to album ekeino pou mou allaxe o,ti mexri tote thewrousa protoporiaki mousiki?Isws giati einai ierosialia kathe sxoliasmos-kritiki?(Re,mpas k o Maynard einai exwghinos?)
Xerw gw,akouste apla ti tha paizetai ta epomena xronia kai tha thewritai 'korufaio'!Isws mono oi muimenoi sthn mageia tous tha mporesoun na katanoisoun tin arrwsteia-kollima mou me autous!
Aprosita Goiteutiko!Open your eyes and ears and taste the perfection!TELOS!
EviVa
A,thewrw apisteuti anagki na parathesw tis dilwseis enos megalou( :lol: )-prwtoporou( :lol: :D )mousikou( :lol: )Bob Katsionis gia to 'Lateralus':''Den mporw na katalabw giati tosos doros gia ena album pou exei ola k ola 3 rifakia...''
To allo me ton Toto, to xerete??? :D :D
Geia sou re Bob...!Pou na xeres oti kai o Totos Tool tha'kouge!!
[quote="Buddy Lackey":1v4mrfv2]mpravo gia anti-paradeigma se kati xazo, fernete kati xazotero, ara apodeiksate oti afto pou yperaspizete den einai xazo
esy den prepei na milas,oust apo dw :evil: :lol:[/quote:1v4mrfv2]
101 kataskeuastes plintiriwn proteinoun Skip.Autoi xeroun! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:
Eviva
Amnesiac.
28-12-2003, 01:39
min prospatheis me plagious tropous na ayksiseis ta posts sou.
PSAROUKLA.
min prospatheis me plagious tropous na ayksiseis ta posts sou.
PSAROUKLA.
Kale kuria,to paidaki me leei psaroukla :roll:
Eukairia einai!Me tosa apisteuta pou'xw diavasei tha boresw na graphw gia wres!
Akous ekei Xippiko Punk???? :lol: :lol: :D
Re,giti to'vales ston non-metal??
Amnesiac.
28-12-2003, 01:55
giati an to evaza sto metal to topic tha eixe +10 selides flame gia to an prepei na mpoun sto metal i sto non metal.
ase pou den einai metal.
Kveldssanger
28-12-2003, 01:59
Ενώ τώρα έχει 10 σελίδες απορίας γιατί μπήκε στο non-metal...
Ενώ τώρα έχει 10 σελίδες απορίας γιατί μπήκε στο non-metal...
Etsi,etsi...!!!kai tha'xei kai alles!aman pia me tis kwlotabeles!
Solo Carriera
28-12-2003, 02:24
oi tool den einai metal.
Kveldssanger
28-12-2003, 02:25
To metal δεν είναι tool...
To metal δεν είναι tool...
Swstos!An kai polles fores an analwnesai se tampeles xaneis tin ousia...
Den xwran pouthena :twisted:
Kveldssanger
28-12-2003, 02:38
Καλτ obscure underground black metal uber alles...
rincewind2k
28-12-2003, 04:45
emjena aio kwlos mou den exei tampela
Solo Carriera
28-12-2003, 20:25
..?
rincewind2k
28-12-2003, 21:27
Ενώ τώρα έχει 10 σελίδες απορίας γιατί μπήκε στο non-metal...
Etsi,etsi...!!!kai tha'xei kai alles!aman pia me tis kwlotabeles!
ntaks, xtes htan asteio. shmera oxi idiaitera... :oops: :roll:
{NightStalker}
02-01-2004, 14:41
oi tool den einai mpanta.. *awaiting the flames..*
{NightStalker}
02-01-2004, 14:41
oi tool den einai mpanta.. *awaiting the flames..*
arcturus re mounia \m/ ekei na deis mageia..
When Black Roses Bloom
02-01-2004, 15:04
oi tool einai gay :headbang:
StationEleven
02-01-2004, 15:17
kai gtp
lost_icon
03-01-2004, 14:57
kai gtp
thes na sou xwsw kana kosmhtiko epitheto, e? :D
House Of Low Culture
23-07-2005, 11:41
...vasika dn xwrane pou8ena
cybernaut 667
23-07-2005, 13:06
oi tool ειναι οι νεοι floyd
με την εξης λογικη:
sabbath = kyuss
hawkwind = monster magnet
ac/dc = fu manchu
εντιτ: κ γιαυτο ακριβως ειναι μια κατηγορια απο μονοι τους
UmbilicalResidue
23-07-2005, 13:17
:moutza:
έτσι. toolίπες flame. \m/
UmbilicalResidue
23-07-2005, 13:28
οι τοολ είναι οι νέοι μεηντεν.
carheart
23-07-2005, 13:29
oi tool einai oi neoi tool...
O orismos tis lexis miasmatos.
Tous euxomai argo kai vasanistiko thanato.
dyingfreedom
23-07-2005, 13:35
Lock προτού αρχίσουν και άλλοι ιερόσυλοι να λένε παπαρολογίες.
UmbilicalResidue
23-07-2005, 13:44
χαεαχαεαχε αλήτη χόλκ σου γαμώ τα καλοκαιρινά σου μεσημέρια.
ουρακοτάγκε!
Wotan, se exoume katalavei apo ti stigmi pou pires meros stous paraolumpiakous me tin ethniki omada tis Gabon sto ping-pong gia atoma me dianoitiki kathusterisi, kai se eide OLO to ER stin tileorasi, den xreiazetai na kaneis proponisi sto forum!!!
cybernaut 667
23-07-2005, 13:57
τι μαλωνετε μωρε , σε αλλους αρεσουν , σε αλλους οχι, απλο ειναι.
τα ιδια πραγματα διαβαζω ξανα κ ξανα στα φορουμ παγκοσμιως.
ειναι περιεργο συγκροτημα ,παιζει περιεργη μουσικη κ κανει τεχνη που δεν μπορει -εκ των πραγματων- να απευθυνεται σε πιο 'χυμα' καταστασεις. Υψιστη τεχνη στον χωρο της μητερας των τεχνων!
Οι δισκοι τους ειναι ενα κομματι απο την αρχη μεχρι την τελευταια νοτα, οι στιχοι τους ειναι ειλικρινεις, δουλεμενοι κ ψαγμενοι οσο δεν παει , ειναι ο ορισμος του προγκρεσιβ κουλουπου.
λοιπον, εμενα μ αρεσουν κ οι μειντεν κ οι μανογουορ κ ολοι ναουμ. τι ειναι, βαζελος - γαυρος να παιζει αντιπαλοτητα?
αργα ή γρηγορα ηταν δεδομενο οτι θα συμβει ( να γινουν πασιγνωστοι )
κ παρολο που τοσα χρονια (απο το 96 περιπου) προσπαθω να πεισω τους παντες για την τεραστια αξια τους, βλεπω οτι τελικα θα ηταν καλυτερα να ειχαν μεινει για λιγους κ καλους
(καλα, οχι τοσο λιγους οσο τοτε)
επισης,πρωτη φορα συμφωνω με Dragonlord( στο υφος αν μη τι αλλο)
κ 2ο επισης, η εμπειρια tool στην σκηνη, απλα δεν περιγραφεται.
Fixxxer :cold:
Gia tin istoria,akousa to Lateralus otan eixe vgei se mia periodo pou akouga arketa prog,meta apo apeires protropes tou stil "apisteuti progressivia","i nea groupara sto metal" "aristourgima" etc,xoris na exw akousei kamia asximi gnomi apo kanenan kai xoris na exw kamia prokatalipsi,eilikrina.
Malista to akousa arketes fores apoti thumamai,
To apotelesma?Mia anempneusti malakia mono gia autous pou nomizoun oti oti periergo akoune einai aparaitita kai kalo kai progressive.
Pragmatika de vriskw kaliteri lexi apo to miasma gia na tous perigrapso.
An thewreite auto to pragma progressive tote den exete kamia sxesi me to progressive (tha vgw kai progster se ligo tromara mou).
Thats all from me.
UmbilicalResidue
23-07-2005, 15:10
τι μαλωνετε μωρε , σε αλλους αρεσουν , σε αλλους οχι, απλο ειναι.
τα ιδια πραγματα διαβαζω ξανα κ ξανα στα φορουμ παγκοσμιως.
ειναι περιεργο συγκροτημα ,παιζει περιεργη μουσικη κ κανει τεχνη που δεν μπορει -εκ των πραγματων- να απευθυνεται σε πιο 'χυμα' καταστασεις. Υψιστη τεχνη στον χωρο της μητερας των τεχνων!
Οι δισκοι τους ειναι ενα κομματι απο την αρχη μεχρι την τελευταια νοτα, οι στιχοι τους ειναι ειλικρινεις, δουλεμενοι κ ψαγμενοι οσο δεν παει , ειναι ο ορισμος του προγκρεσιβ κουλουπου.
λοιπον, εμενα μ αρεσουν κ οι μειντεν κ οι μανογουορ κ ολοι ναουμ. τι ειναι, βαζελος - γαυρος να παιζει αντιπαλοτητα?
αργα ή γρηγορα ηταν δεδομενο οτι θα συμβει ( να γινουν πασιγνωστοι )
κ παρολο που τοσα χρονια (απο το 96 περιπου) προσπαθω να πεισω τους παντες για την τεραστια αξια τους, βλεπω οτι τελικα θα ηταν καλυτερα να ειχαν μεινει για λιγους κ καλους
(καλα, οχι τοσο λιγους οσο τοτε)
επισης,πρωτη φορα συμφωνω με Dragonlord( στο υφος αν μη τι αλλο)
κ 2ο επισης, η εμπειρια tool στην σκηνη, απλα δεν περιγραφεται.
ye, μαζί σου ρε παιδιμ αλλα γιατί πρέπει κάποιος να εμφανιστεί
και να πεί το 'είναι οι νέοι μπιλχάλεηενδεκόμετς' σμ8;
Μη το κάνεις. Οχι γιατι ο φανταστικός, ανυπέρβλητος, συγκινητικός
αμίμητος αλογοκάβλης μπιλχάλεη δε πρέπει να συγκρίνεται με
οποιονδήποτε γιατι δε μπορέσαμε να ξεπεράσουμε το σύμπλεγμα
με το χρυσό παλιό. Αλλα γιατί ρε πούστη τέτοιες φράσεις ειδικά όταν
μιλάμε για μπαντες της πάστας των φλόυντ και τοολ προσβάλουν
την δουλειά τους γιατι δείχνουν οτι ακούτε τη μουσική τους
με τρόπο που δε τους αρμόζει.
Ερμ επειδή βαριέμαι να διαβάζω όλα τα μακρυνάρια, αναφέρθηκε η δομική μεγαλοφυία του και το spiral puzzle που κρύβει το lateralus μέσα?
UmbilicalResidue
23-07-2005, 15:34
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An thewreite auto to pragma progressive
δεν είναι.
The Nerd
23-07-2005, 17:47
An thewreite auto to pragma progressive
δεν είναι.
House Of Low Culture
23-07-2005, 21:23
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