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grheadbanger

03-07-2005, 18:41

johnpetrucci

04-07-2005, 02:19

loipon,auto pou les oti ksekourdizontai oi ypoloipes exei na kanei me to oti otan mia kithara allazei eite tuning eite xordes (px apo 9ares se 10ares ktl) thelei rythmisma toso to mpratso oso kai oi armonikes wste na erthei sth swsth katastash.oso kai an sou fainetai oti ena aplo d tuning den epirreazei thn kithara,prepei na ksereis oti allazei arketa to tension ths kitharas gi auto xanoun kai oi ypoloipes kai ksekourdizetai genikotera.
oso gi auto pou les "to eksarthmataki" nomizw legetai drop d.den prepei na einai poly akrivo (mexri 50e ypologizw) alla apo empeiria pou eixe enas filos tha se symbouleua na mhn to pareis giati sth dikh tou kithara erxotan se epafh me to ksylo tou swmatos kai thn eixe gdarei poly.
sou ksanalew oti gia to sygkekrimeno den eimai poly sigouros kai kalytera na sou pei kapoios me proswpikh empeiria gia to thema.pantws an theleis na diathrhseis monima d tuning,phgaine thn kithara sou se kana jimmy rock stuff,kourmph ktl na sou th rythmisoun.

auta ta "liga"!! :D

grheadbanger

04-07-2005, 13:27

ma afto akrivws einai to thema re si,oti de thelw monimo d kourdisma...apla na allazw opote thelw opws boreis se mia kithara xwris floyd rose...an ithela monima aplws tha ti rithmiza...

The Good Son

04-07-2005, 14:00

paizei na exoume thn idia kithara. Egw kanw to e3hs. kourdizw kanonika se e kai rythmizw etsi wste xalarwnontas thn mi ws ekei pou ftanei to floyd rose na ginetai re, etsi swzw kai xrono. Otan kaneis mono thn e->d, dewn gamietai tpt kai an 3ekourdizontai ligo einai amelhteo. Apo kei kai pera, gia poio "xamhla" kourdismata, bgazw kana elathrio apo pisw kai peiramatizomai.

Evarian

11-12-2006, 19:23

skalizontas to forum petuxa auto edw

loipon to eksartimataki legete hipshot

http://www.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php ... t_list&c=7 (http://www.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php?m=product_list&c=7)

to exei kai o billy sheehan gia to mpasso tou

twra me to floyd rose ti paizei den kserw alla kai pali tha sou ksekourdizontai oi alles giati auto pou kanei einai na "apothikeuei" tis theseis pou einai E kai D h xordh kai apla laskarei kai sfigkei automata... den nomizw na katalavate alla apla me to pou katebazeis to moxlaki apo E ginetai D apla...

ama thes na allazeis kourdismata pane sto thomann h kai sto musicorama.gr kai pare mia fthniara kithara na thn exeis opws thes.

jezuz

11-12-2006, 22:13

ayto poy psaxneis einai ayto

http://www.dtuna.com/

yparxoyn kai polla alla paromoia, alla opws eipe o johnpetruci gdernoyn thn ki8ara... atyxws den 3erw kapoion poy na to exei dokimasei na soy elega an kai poso 3ekoyrdizontai oi ypoloipes xordes...

jezuz

11-12-2006, 22:16

...epishs prepei na kleidwseis to tremolo gia na mhn 3ekoyrdizete teleiws otan xrhsimopoieis ton d-tuna, pragma poy shmainei oti den 8a exeis tremolo...

manos g

12-12-2006, 05:21

Hello.
1.Poia ibanez exeis kai ti tremolo? Floyd rose patent h kanoniko? h kapoion kavalarh allo typoy "florydrose" poy bazei h ibanez stis ki8ares tis?
Ok profanws yparxoyn para polla eidh, prwth h kramer leei fwrese to floydrose se ki8ara tis (giati h fender to aperripse).Opote polla perierga pragmata exoyn efarmostei se kramer ki8ares,akoma kai fthnes.Ayta sta lew giati kai egw epsaxna to idio pragma.
Sthn koybenta mas twra.
Exw mia ibanez S poy exei to "dtuner". H S einai h ki8ara sthn opoia h ibanez efarmozei oloys toys newterismoys ths.KAi thn allazei ka8e xrono.TO kainoyrgio montelo ths S dne to exei.Mallon giati dne einai poly kalo san systhnma. Mono poy h dikia moy foraei to zr tremolo.
TO dtuner ti einai? Mia e3ypnh patenta einai poy mpainei anti ths ka8eths sto swma bidas toy tremolo an katalabainei ti soy lew, kai mporei na "kleidwsei" se 2 8eseis epitrepontas etsi mikrory8miseis se ka8e apo aytes alla kai mia diafora 2hmitoniwn to poly (drop d).

Ta problhmata.Opws einai profanes otan to "patas" kai pas as poyme se E h synolikh piesh poy askeitai stis xordes allazei.Olles 3ekoyrdizontai ligo.Den einai apotelsmatiko 100% loipon.Alla einai ok thn paleyei.TO tremolo allazei elafrws klhsh kai gamioyntai kai ligo oi armonikes.Alla ayto einai poly ligo mallon.
Epishs h E exei mia periergh ais8hsh...San na einai poio xalarh apo tis alles.Kai basika otan thn exies D einai.Giati to bagonaki tis einai poio psila apo ta alla.Symboylh an to baleis? Pestoys na sthn ri8misoyn drop d, oxi E doyleyei kalytera.

Pantws ayto to systhma me paralages to exw dei kai se floyd rose tremolo oxi mono sto zr tremolo poy to foraei h dikia moy.Mono poy ekei allazane thn parallhlh sto sswma bidak ai bazane mia makryterh kai ligo periergh poy ekane thn doyleia.
Nomizw oti to poylage o Dhmoy (apenanti apo ton kagmakh)ayto to kolpaki.
des kai musicyo.com mhpws exei meinei kana antalaktiko logw kramer.

Mia skepsh : Epeidh o Floyd Rose exei thn patenta, opoio tremolo den exei adeia, prepei se ka8e toy e3arthma na einai diaforetiko apo ayto toy floyd rose.Opote an breis apo kapoio allo tremolo to kolpo mporei na mhn soy kanei.Alal h dikia myo empeiria (otan epsaxna to tremolo -levie- me ton tropo poy koympwnei ston kabalarh) ) apo thn dikia moy mazi me olo to systhma , moy edei3e oti kai alla antalaktika efarmozontai teleia (to prhra apo to floyd rose kai eixe akoma kai thn idia diametro se bides).

Opote alla mia idea.mpes sta antalaktika sto site ths ibanez bres poio einai to tremolo soy, des an yparxie kapoio tetoio systhma se kapoia ki8ara ibanez h kapoio se kapoion analogo kabalarh(mporie kai apo to zr na soy kanei),krta oti stoixeia 8es kai zhta to apo tn trimh.
*a soy pei oti den to exei (klassika) alla ti exies na xaseis?
Allh idea? Des an yparxei apo kolofardia sto thomann.KaMIA ora fernei perierga kommatia.
KAi to dwro ekplh3h? Parhgeile to apo to machne head music (nomizw machineheadmusic.co.uk)
Ena entalalktiko pyo epsaxna egw kai den to ebriska poy8ena, moy to steilane tsampa me dika toys taxydromika (htna mia mikrh sfinoyla basika alla poly xrishmh).

Elpizw na boh8hsa.
An 8es kanw kai upload to reference poy exw apo biblia gia na deis patentes se kabalaridhdes (apo kalher mexri pragmata poy den kykloforoyn pleon).
Kalh synexeia

Othon

12-12-2006, 12:07

exw mia ibanez me floyd rose kai ws gnwston den borw na kourdisw se d mono tin panw giati meta xekourdizontai oles oi alles kai ginetai o xamos...exw akousei gia ena eksartimataki pou exei patentarei i peavey gia tin kithara tou van allen to opoio efarmozei stin E kai me ena diakoptaki allazei to kourdisma tis apo d se e kai antistrofa xwris na epireazei tis ipoloipes xordes...exei kaneis kamia parapanw pliroforia gi afto?timi klp?den prepei na eimai o monos pou antimetwpizei afto to provlima me to floyd rose fantazomai...

Na kai ena kolpo apo ton Othon.

afou allakseis oles tis xordes kai h kithara einai kanonika kourdismenh kane to ekshs. bidwse mexri katw to bidaki pou einai gia to fine tuning ths E xordhs. meta kourdise kanonika thn xordh alla oxi me to fine tning. otan to kaneis kiauto kleidwse to tremolo. auto pou kataferes auth th stimgh einai enas detuner. anti gia fine tunig exeis enan fine detuning. ;-) Pistepseme douleuei auto to kolpo kai den xreiazetai na agoraseis tipota!

Evarian

12-12-2006, 18:59

kai den ksekourdizontai oi alles xordes???? logika allazei to tension thn E kai to floyd prepei na shkwnetai ligo ... anyway...

ta xristougenna tha exw to prwto floyd rose mou (to edge pro 7 ths ibanez) sthn 7xordh pou skopeuw na parw...

Othon

12-12-2006, 19:04