View Full Version : Skliri mousiki: Adelfopoihsi 'h Ex8ra???
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 11:15
Sa xairetw ki egw ap'tin pleyra mou! Gia osous me 3eroun kalws! Gia osous den me 3eroun 8a me ma8oun... :twisted:
Sto 8ema mas:
Prosfata eixa mia koubenta me enan kollito mou panw sto 8ema tis skliris mousikis genikotera. To olo zitoumeno itan to e3is:
Prepei na ypar3ei adelfopoihsi meta3y twn opadwn olwn twn eidwn tis skliris mousikis (akoma kai tou gothic) enantia sta kymmata parakmis twn skyladwn, twn electronic freaks, twn boyz bands klp? Einai logikes oi diamaxes, oxi mono meta3y palaioli8ikwn kai NU metal guys, alla kai meta3y palaioli8ikwn rockadwn, thrashadwn, epicadwn klp?
Gnwmi mou einai pws panta 8a yparxei krisi twn opadwn enos eidous mousikis pros ena allo. To 8ema einai se ti epipedo mporei na ftasei mia tetoia krisi. Paliotera eftane mexri kai se mpouketidia kai sfages meta3y "symoriwn". Oi opadoi-symorites twn AngelWitch stin Agglia kanane ntou se opoidipote opado mias allis mi metal mpantas. Foras mplouzaki Maiden? 8a pe8aneis!
Ayto bebaia einai ena akraio paradeigma, alla deinei ena stigma tis epoxis. Simera omws ti exoume?
8elw na akousw kai tis dikies sas gnwmes epi tou 8ematos...
The_Emperor
25-11-2003, 11:33
megales malakies...
o kathenas akouei o,ti mousikh toy aresei kai afhnei kai toys allous na kanoun to idio...
an oxi...ton grafoume ekei pou den pianei melani kai teleiwse to zhthma...
Xilies fores skylas para poweras :)
Anyway, den katalavaino giati prepei na "aderfopoiithoume" enantia sth megalh apeilh: tous opadous/filous ths mh sklhrhs mousikhs. Poly tr00 kai heavy akougetai. De tha paro.. mporo na exo gnomh gia ola ta eidh mousikhs kai monos mou :)
StationEleven
25-11-2003, 11:43
bilz lol
welcome stormtrooper metal xwris tous pantera den yparxei
lol
muah :P
Prepei na ypar3ei adelfopoihsi meta3y twn opadwn olwn twn eidwn tis skliris mousikis (akoma kai tou gothic) enantia sta kymmata parakmis twn skyladwn, twn electronic freaks, twn boyz bands klp?
Gia mena prosopika fusika kai OXI.
Ti eidous aderfopoiisi mporei na uparxei metaxu enos heavy metala kai enos pou akouei nu?
Ti koino exoun?
Akoun kai oi duo "akraia mousiki".As kagxasw.
Prota prota oi duo mousikes presveuoun diaforetika sinesthimata kai diaforetikes antilipseis.
To idio isxiei kai me enan gotha kai enan hardcora,i enan pou akouei punk me enan pou akouei metal.
Den prepei na uparxei kamia aderfopoiisi sti mousiki kat eme.O kathenas akouei oti thelei alla ws ekei.
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 12:07
megales malakies...
o kathenas akouei o,ti mousikh toy aresei kai afhnei kai toys allous na kanoun to idio...
an oxi...ton grafoume ekei pou den pianei melani kai teleiwse to zhthma...
H eley8eria tou na akous oti 8es einai ana anamfisbitito dikaiwma pou exoume oloi mas. Omws einai dikaiwma (kai kat'eme ypoxrewsi) to na krineis. Ki epeidi sti sygkekrimeni periptwsi milame gia mousiki einai dikaiwma tou ka8'enos na krinei ta alla eidi mousikis kai tous opadous tis.
Gia na akribologisw... Mi mou peite pws kanenas sas den exei er8ei se epafi me tin pragmatikotita tis pareas mesa se ena Punto GT 'h ena Saxo 'h Rallye me ton Sfakianaki 'h ton Ploutarxo na paizei sti diapason kai na kanei ili8io, ews kai aisxro polles fores, kamaki se atyxouses kopelies pou bre8ikan sto diaba tous... Den 3erw gia esas, alla egw sifiliazomai blepontas tetoiou eidous tsantirogyftous. Ap'tin alli omws sifiliazomai me opadous tis skliris mousikis na yperaspizontai ili8ies katastaseis kai na e8elotyfloun se dedomena pragmata. Sigoura den genikeyw ta pragmata kai mono to stixeio tis mousikis den mporei na xaraktirisei kapoion apolyta. Se oles ti koinwnikes omades yparxoun ola ta eidi twn an8rwpwn.
Alla as mi 3efeygw ap'to 8ema. Milame gia mousiki... Kai sigoura se mia koubenta 8a ypostiri3w ta pisteyw mou panw se kapoia eidi. Kai gnwmi mou einai pws kapoia eidi einai entelws ili8ia, anousia kai geloia kai mporw na xaraktirisw etsi kai ayton pou ta akouei sto sygkekrimeno 8ema, asxeta an ayto einai skliri mousiki, laiko, rave 'h otidipote allo...
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 12:24
Gia mena prosopika fusika kai OXI.
Ti eidous aderfopoiisi mporei na uparxei metaxu enos heavy metala kai enos pou akouei nu?
Ti koino exoun?
Akoun kai oi duo "akraia mousiki".As kagxasw.
Prota prota oi duo mousikes presveuoun diaforetika sinesthimata kai diaforetikes antilipseis.
To idio isxiei kai me enan gotha kai enan hardcora,i enan pou akouei punk me enan pou akouei metal.
Den prepei na uparxei kamia aderfopoiisi sti mousiki kat eme.O kathenas akouei oti thelei alla ws ekei.
Par'ol'ayta, file mou, yparxoun polla koina, alla kai polles ousiastikes diafores...
8ewreis esy tous Wotan pio sklirous apo Hardcorizon 'h NU metal sygkrotimata? Proswpika apex8anomai ayto to ili8io eidos pou pane na perasoun groups opws Wotan kai Lonewolf! Episis den mou aresei ka8olou to NU! Par'ol'ayta den mporw para na tous paradextw san en8ermous opadous, alla kai san pio skeptomena atoma apo kapoious allous pou 8eopoioun oti einai klassiko Heavy 'h Epic, asxeta ap'to an oi an8rwpoi-groups den 3eroun oute na kourdizoun ta organa tous, na syn8etoun 'h na grafoun riffs. Ap'osous NU metallers exw gnwrisei exw dei to akrws anti8eto. Groups pou latreyoun kai bgalan mia antikeimeniki patata, to lene kai den exoun para na kra3oun to en logo group. Lypame pou den mporw na anaferw to sygkekrimeno group kai disko pou mou anaferan ws patata, alla den asxoloume ka8olou me to eidos kai den 8ymamai onoma.
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 12:33
bilz lol
welcome stormtrooper metal xwris tous pantera den yparxei
lol
muah :P
And u are...???
Eth? :roll:
Raven Lord
25-11-2003, 12:39
σίγουρα πολλά πράγματα μου τη σπάνε στη νεοελληνική υποκουλτούρα, αλλά τις κρίσεις τις κρατάω για τον εαυτό μου... ούτως ή αλλως, από τη στιγμη που αρέσει σε κάποιον αυτό που κάνει και δεν με ενοχλεί (πολύ) και αντιστοίχως ανέχεται αυτό που κάνω εγώ, δεν έχω κανένα πρόβλημα...
τα γούστα είναι κάτι τελείως υποκειμενικό και προσωπικό, σε σημείο να μην έχω πολλά κοινά ούτε καν με άτομα που ακούνε την ίδια μουσική, πόσο μάλλον με άτομα που ασχολούνται με άλλα στιλ... ειδικά το heavy metal είναι περίπτωση, γιατί είναι τόσο ποικιλόμορφο και διαχρονικό που είναι αδύνατο να συμφωνείς σε όλα με κάποιον. δεν είναι π.χ. σαν τα σκυλάδικα που όλοι ακούνε τα στάνταρ κομμάτια ανά εποχή ή σαν το punk που λίγο πολύ η διαφοροποίηση μεταξύ των ήχων είναι μικρή...
marianna2525
25-11-2003, 12:56
to theoro entelos hazo, na ginei ena eniaio metopo, se osous akoun diaforetiki mousiki.
an einai skylades kai o,tidipote allo tou syrmou, dikaioma tous, apla den polykano parea me atoma hamilis koultouras.
an akoun jazz, blues, klasiki, kai pali dikaioma tous, aftoi ehoun safos kalyteri koultoura kai tous kano parea.
vevaia, tora milaei i orimi ilikia mou, to paradehomai.
sta niata mou thymamai kapoies kosmoistorikes mahes stin plateia navarinou tis thessalonikis, anamesa se rockades kai discovious, lol.
The_Painless
25-11-2003, 13:05
Και πες πως μαζευόμαστε όλοι εμείς οι "μεταλλάδες" :P και φτιάχνουμε αυτό το μέτωπο....Τι θα κάνουμε μετά; Θα δέρνουμε τους "σκυλάδες"; Θα διοργανώνουμε μάχες για να δούμε ποιος θα επικρατήσει και ποιος θα φύγει;
Και επίσης, λες ότι σε εκνευρίζει να βλέπεις παρέες "τσαντιρόγυφτων", όπως τους χαρακτηρίζεις, να ακούνε Σφακιανάκη μέσα στο αυτοκίνητό τους και να κάνουν χοντροκομμένο καμάκι σε όποια ευπαρουσίαστη κοπέλα τέλος πάντων περάσει. Οκ, καταλαβαίνω, προφανώς αναφέρεσαι στη γενικότερη συμπεριφορά αυτών των ατόμων, την οποία δε νομίζω ότι επικροτούν πολλοί από εμάς εδώ μέσα. Το θέμα όμως είναι ότι όπως "αυτοί" έχουν τους "τσαντιρόγυφτους", έχουμε κι "εμείς" κάτι αληταράδες του κερατά που δεν είναι σε τίποτε καλύτεροι από εκείνους.
Οχι, δε θα έπρεπε να υπάρχει μέτωπο ή κάτι παρόμοιο ούτε αισθάνομαι ότι είναι υποχρέωσή μου ή έστω θεμιτό το να κατακρίνω αυτό που ακούει ο άλλος, είτε πρόκειται για το "σκυλά" είτε πρόκειται για το "μεταλλά" που ακούει κάτι διαφορετικό από εμένα.
Και τέλος, welcome. It's good to see you here :)
StationEleven
25-11-2003, 13:05
yo madafuca
8ewreis esy tous Wotan pio sklirous apo Hardcorizon 'h NU metal sygkrotimata?
Den xerw an einai pio skliroi i oxi,pio poiotikoi sigoura einai.Na enas akoma ligos diaxwrismou.
Και πες πως μαζευόμαστε όλοι εμείς οι "μεταλλάδες" και φτιάχνουμε αυτό το μέτωπο....Τι θα κάνουμε μετά; Θα δέρνουμε τους "σκυλάδες"; Θα διοργανώνουμε μάχες για να δούμε ποιος θα επικρατήσει και ποιος θα φύγει;
mmmmm mou arese auto!Maxes gia tin epikratisi tou atsaliou :) :)
Mesa!
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 13:18
@ Painless
Pare3igisis!!!
Den milisa gia sygxrones symories (an kai den 8a elega oxi :twisted: ), alla i oli koubenta e3elix8ike panw sto poso swsto einai kai an prepei na yparxoun dixonoies meta3y filwn tis skliris mousikis ap'tin stigmi pou kata kapoio tropo "yparxei koinos ex8ros"....
Xairomai ki egw pou sas 3anasynantw :wink:
@ StationEleven
Giati re 3epoulimene alla3es to name sou???
Jazz xwris Venom den yparxei :P :P :P :wink:
StationEleven
25-11-2003, 13:28
einai h my band man ;)
folkoriko power neoklasiko doom den yparxei xwris ton xatzigiannh 8)
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 13:43
8ewreis esy tous Wotan pio sklirous apo Hardcorizon 'h NU metal sygkrotimata?
Den xerw an einai pio skliroi i oxi,pio poiotikoi sigoura einai.Na enas akoma ligos diaxwrismou.
Den mporw na krinw tin poiotita tou NU mias kai den exw asxoli8ei, alla an empisteytw tin krisi sou kai dextw oti oi Wotan einai pio poiotikoi apo tous NUsters tote oi Nusters einai xeiroteroi ki apo eykoilia!!!
Basika tous Wotan tous 8ewrw gia ton POUTSO!!! Apopsi mou bebaia, alla oi an8rwpoi den 3eroun apo Metal ki apo mousiki.
Ki esy pws 3exwrizeis to poiotiko ap'to mi poiotiko? Gia mena poiotikoi itan oi Maiden gi'ayto kai ftasan ekei pou ftasan. Anti8eta oi Venom den einai poiotikoi (toulaxiston oxi oso oi Maiden), alla tous protimw tis perissoteres fores gia akousma kai headbanging. Poiotikoi einai kai oi Metallica alla den mou aresoun kai tous 8ewrw baretous. Oi WASP sta prwta tous den eixan tin poiotita twn metepeita albums, omws protimw tin prwti tous fasi. Stin teliki, osa sygkrotimata anafera twra einai pio poiotika ap'tous Wotan. Ayto 8a prepei na me kanei na se xaraktirisw ws atomo ypokoultouras? Den katalabainw pws krineis kati ws pio poiotiko kai giati ayto einai kritirio gia katigoria...
Kveldssanger
25-11-2003, 14:05
Poios koinos exthros re Stormtrooper? Les kai oloi pia den exoun kati kalytero na kanoun apo to na sxediazoun ton ekmhdenismo enos eidous mousikis h thn epikrathsh enos allou... Kai, exallou, to ti akouei o kathenas einai to teleytaio pragma pou tha prosexo... Dld epeidi exo perissotera koina akousmata me kapoious, ayto aytomata me vazei se ena stratopedo? (arxizo na symfono me ton Wotan kai anyshxo :P )... Se kamia, ma kamia periptosi de vrisko logiko tetoio tropo skepsis... Osa koina mporo na exo me kapoion pou akouei epic, nu, death klp mporo na exo kai me kapoion pou akouei fusion, drum'n'bass, reggae h taylandeziki sampa...
Amnesiac.
25-11-2003, 14:11
emena enas poly kollitos mou akouei skyladika kai akoma xeirotera.
na mazeytoume na ton deiroume.
alla tha prepei na deiroume kai emena giati kanw parea me atoma xamilis koultouras.
skata. agxwthika.
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 14:17
Kveldssanger (!!!!!!!) eisa ektos 8ematos. Den milise kaneis gia ekmidenismo kapoiou eidous mousikis. Den mporeis na diafwniseis sto oti yparxoun kai dimiourgountai omades an8rwpwn analoga me ta akousmata tous estw ki an aytes einai apla groups. Ean ayto den symbainei me sena, tote to 8ema apla de se afora ammesa apla. Ex8res kai antipalotites 8a yparxoun panta se oles tis mikres 'h megales omades pou yparxoun kai den mporeis na to amfisbitiseis!
The_Sentinel
25-11-2003, 14:29
H enopoiisi oson akoune skliri mousiki den prokeitai na ginei pote.Kai sto katw katw tis grafis enopoiisi gia poio logo.O kathenas as akouei ti mousiki tou kai as min enoxlei ton allo.Kathe eidos exei ta kala tou kai ta kaka tou, kai to nu metal kai to gothic kai to black aki to thrash kai opoiodipote.As min krinoume ti akoune oi alloi kai as krinoume kalytera tous eautous mas.To teleutaio WOTAN itan gia sena mpas kai katalaveis poso kollimenos eisai.
daydreamer
25-11-2003, 14:32
Βασικά είναι τουλάχιστον χαζό να δημιουργούνται ομάδες σύμφωνα με τα μουσικά γούστα γιατί αν κάποιος πει ότι δεν έχει κανένα κοινό με έναν "σκυλά" θα έχει άδικο, το ότι κάποιος ακούει σκυλάδικα δεν σημαίνει απαραίτητα ότι δεν είναι άξιος για να συναστραφεί κάποιος μαζί του, όπως επίσης και αν κάποιοι έχουν τα ίδια μουσικά γούστα μπορεί να είναι τόσο διαφορετικοί άνθρωποι που να μην έχουν ούτε ένα σημείο επαφής...
Η μουσική είναι απλά ένα ακόμη θέμα συζήτησης σε μια παρέα, δεν είναι απαραίτητο να είναι το μοναδικό.
Άλλωστε θεωρώ ότι οι ταμπέλες του στυλ "μεταλλάς", "ροκάς" κλπ είναι (κι αυτές) τουλάχιστον χαζές...
The_Emperor
25-11-2003, 14:41
osoi skeftontai tetoies antipalothtes xanoun to xrono toys me xazomares
symfono apolyta me kveld... (poly to paw ayto to paidi!!)
Kveldssanger
25-11-2003, 14:51
Vsk, mia ekfrasi xrhsimopoihsa pou mou irthe sto myalo otan anaferthikes se "exthrous"... To oti dhmiourgountai "omades" de to amfisvhto, asxeta an to theoro themito h oxi... Alla to an yparxoun antipalotites, toulaxiston se sovaro vathmo de mporo na to dextho... O kathenas asxoleitai me ayto pou tou aresei, kai tis perissoteres fores afhnei tous allous stin hsyxia tous... Toulaxiston, ayta exo dei apo tis dikes mou empeiries...
Kai gia ta sxolia peri ypokoultouras, nomizo oti einai ligo ypervolika... Alloste, posoi kai posoi theoroun kai tous metallades h tous rokades ypokoultoura... H mousiki einai apla ena meso ekfrasis, oxi kanena lavaro pou tha akolouthisoume sti maxi...
variemai na diavasw ta katevata. ftiaxte symories kai adelfothtes kai phgainte sto ghpedo, ayta :twisted:
Amnesiac.
25-11-2003, 15:18
xevi metal mafia \m/
vatos locos forever.
Stormtrooper esu mallon vgeneis ektos thematos kai les kai kseles.
Einai olofanero oti anaferese se mousiko diaxwrismo.
Dekto.
Meta to pigeneis se prosopiko diaxwrismo legontas oti an kapoios akouei kati ligotero poiotiko apo kati allo einai atomo upokoultouras kati to opoio den isxiei apoluta.
Telika tha mas peis pou thes na katalikseis?
Kai go vriskw pio poiotikous tous Metallica apo tous Gehennah pou toso sou aresoun.Auto simenei oti eisai atomo upokoultouras?Oxi bebaia.
Kai an thes na matheis pos krinw kati to poiotiko,mathe oti poiotiko thewrw kati pou den prosvalei to atomo mou.To ti me prosvalei san atomo einai alli upothesi.
Einai kathara upokeimeniko to ti einai poiotiko kai ti oxi ston kathena.
Sentinel den krinoume TI AKOUNE oi alloi alla TIN MOUSIKI pou akoune kati to opoio plin elaxistwn ekseresewn einai teleiws upokeimeniko.gege?
The_Sentinel
25-11-2003, 15:38
to ti akoune me to ti mousiki pou akoune den einai to idio pragma? :P
gege?Oooops apo tis prwtes taxis tou dimotikou exw na to akousw auto?
Apotelei anapospasto tmima tou lexilogiou sou akoma? :roll:
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 15:41
Einai olofanero oti anaferese se mousiko diaxwrismo.
Dekto.
Meta to pigeneis se prosopiko diaxwrismo legontas oti an kapoios akouei kati ligotero poiotiko apo kati allo einai atomo upokoultouras kati to opoio den isxiei apoluta.
Ayto itan apla ena sxolio se osa eipes peri diaxwrismou basi tis poiotitas kati sto opoio outws 'h allws diafwnw. Twra pou eides esy otri 3efyga ap'to 8ema... Milousa kai milaw gia mousiko diaxwrismo.
Kai go vriskw pio poiotikous tous Metallica apo tous Gehennah pou toso sou aresoun
Profanws ta exoume 3anapei sto BB alla eixes allo name. Ean den sou einai dyskolo anafere to prohgoumeno sou name, etsi apla gia tis sistaseis...
Ela re o Necro eimai.
Sentinel nai apo to dhmotiko. :)
Aisthanese oti mou tin eipes twra? :oops:
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 15:50
Ela re o Necro eimai.
Ela re morfi!!! :) Eprepe na to katalabw.
Ti ginetai edw pera kai allazetai oloi ta name sas?
Anyway... Gehennah RULEZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!! :P :wink:
The_Sentinel
25-11-2003, 16:13
Ela re o Necro eimai.
Sentinel nai apo to dhmotiko. :)
Aisthanese oti mou tin eipes twra? :oops:
oxi.gelaw me auta pou les. :P
OK pes oti ginetai auth h "ennopoihsh" (kati pou, pera apo oles tis ypoloipes anti3oothtes, den prokeitai na ginei giati vlepete kai apo monoi sas pws trwgeste gia tis mpantes kai tis ypokathgories ths metal klp klp).
Ama kapoios apo to "metalliko metwpo" syllhf8ei (o mh genoito!) na akouei p.x. lounge s'ena trendy cafe sto Mpournazi kai na goustarei :shock: :shock: :shock: tote ti ginetai???
Yparxoun 3ereis kai polloi oi opoioi akoune panw apo ena eidos mousikhs (eeek!!!!). Autoi ti 8a ginoun? Diploi praktores? :P
/me calls dibs on the name Mata Hari.
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 16:23
Kaneis den ypostiri3e mia tetoia ennopoihsi. Apla te8ike ena 8ema pros syzitisi. Ta ypoloipa einai aoristologies kai ili8iotites!
Dragonlord
25-11-2003, 16:29
Gnwmi mou einai pws panta 8a yparxei krisi twn opadwn enos eidous mousikis pros ena allo. To 8ema einai se ti epipedo mporei na ftasei mia tetoia krisi. Paliotera eftane mexri kai se mpouketidia kai sfages meta3y "symoriwn". Oi opadoi-symorites twn AngelWitch stin Agglia kanane ntou se opoidipote opado mias allis mi metal mpantas. Foras mplouzaki Maiden? 8a pe8aneis!
Ayto bebaia einai ena akraio paradeigma, alla deinei ena stigma tis epoxis. Simera omws ti exoume?
oso milame gia OPADOUS kai oxi akroates mousikhs 8a vlepoume tetoies paparies.mhn ypovivazete thn (ypoti8etai) texnh se podosfairo
Dragonlord
25-11-2003, 16:31
Ela re o Necro eimai.
Ela re morfi!!! :) Eprepe na to katalabw.
Ti ginetai edw pera kai allazetai oloi ta name sas?
Anyway... Gehennah RULEZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!! :P :wink:
einai kolpo gia na mh mas katalavei o varouxas.egw eimai h milagkros :wink:
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 16:37
oso milame gia OPADOUS kai oxi akroates mousikhs 8a vlepoume tetoies paparies.mhn ypovivazete thn (ypoti8etai) texnh se podosfairo
Den mporeis na amfisbitiseis to fainomeno tou opadismou sti mousiki kai poly perissotero sti skliri mousiki, eite ayto einai punk, eite metal, eite hardrock. H istoria to exei dei3ei kai malista me poly plousia paradeigmata akoma kai twn antiproswpwn tou ka8e eidous (milaw gia ta meli megalwn 'h mi group). Twra ean ayto einai ikano na ypobibasei tin a3ia tis mousikis ayto einai allo kai den to 3erw....
Sentinel gela prota me to description pou exeis katw apo to nick sou to opoio se sindiasmo me to sign sou dinei ena entono aisthima geliou kai meta me auta pou lew egw.
Filika :wink:
StationEleven
25-11-2003, 16:41
Sentinel den krinoume TI AKOUNE oi alloi alla TIN MOUSIKI pou akoune kati to opoio plin elaxistwn ekseresewn einai teleiws upokeimeniko.gege?
mh krineis gia na mh kri8eis :twisted:
Buddy Lackey
25-11-2003, 16:41
mhn paizete me tis lekseis
opadismos mporei na iparxei gia otidhpote
h texnh den exei opadous?
kai ti paei na pei "opados" exei orismos i leksi gia tin mousiki dld ?
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 16:45
mhn paizete me tis lekseis
opadismos mporei na iparxei gia otidhpote
h texnh den exei opadous?
kai ti paei na pei "opados" exei orismos i leksi gia tin mousiki dld ?
Kat'arxin prin miliseis na sikwneis to xeri sou gia na mi fwna3w ton MAYRO kyrioi!!!! :P :P :P
Kaneis den ypostiri3e mia tetoia ennopoihsi. Apla te8ike ena 8ema pros syzitisi. Ta ypoloipa einai aoristologies kai ili8iotites!
E ok e3hghse mas tote ti akrivws ennoeis (and stick to it) giati o,ti ki an sou apantoun olo les oti den ennoouses auto kai den milhses gia to tade kai den yposthri3es to deina. Kai to rwtaw sovara auto, an koita3eis to thread ta exeis aporripsei ola.
hahhaha erxetai o mauros kurioi \m/
opados aka fanatic. orismos yparxei kai gia thn mousikh dysthxws.
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 16:53
E ok e3hghse mas tote ti akrivws ennoeis (and stick to it) giati o,ti ki an sou apantoun olo les oti den ennoouses auto kai den milhses gia to tade kai den yposthri3es to deina. Kai to rwtaw sovara auto, an koita3eis to thread ta exeis aporripsei ola.
Apla lew pws den ypostirizw fanatika kapoia sygkekrimeni apopsi. H koubenta den ginetai pros emena 'h kapoion allon. Apla para8etoume ta epixeirimata mas. Elpizw na se kalipsa...
Buddy Lackey
25-11-2003, 16:53
kai poios einai aftos?
kai pws mporeis dld na ksexoriseis enan filo tis mousikis, me enan opado tis ?
afou o kathenas exei entelws diaforetika sinaisthimata gia to pws akouei kati, kai monadiko vathmo kai tropo "latreias" twn akousmatwn tou.
StationEleven
25-11-2003, 16:56
kai poios einai aftos?
kai pws mporeis dld na ksexoriseis enan filo tis mousikis, me enan opado tis ?
afou o kathenas exei entelws diaforetika sinaisthimata gia to pws akouei kati, kai monadiko vathmo kai tropo "latreias" twn akousmatwn tou.
opws kai alliws thn ekfrazei se mia sobarh "in real life" syzhthsh kai alliws se mia "synh8ws kanoume xabale gia na perasei h wra" syzhthsh sto net , pragma pou dystyxws edw mesa ligoi to antilambanontai :P
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 17:00
opws kai alliws thn ekfrazei se mia sobarh "in real life" syzhthsh kai alliws se mia "synh8ws kanoume xabale gia na perasei h wra" syzhthsh sto net , pragma pou dystyxws edw mesa ligoi to antilambanontai :P
Oso paw kai se sympa8w esena... Eisai kai wraio paloukari... Eisai kai Bazelos (ayto as mi to fwnazoume kalytera)... :P :P :P
StationEleven
25-11-2003, 17:18
ti les twra ... PAO 8RHSKEIA 8YRA 13 8)
The_Sentinel
25-11-2003, 17:31
Sentinel gela prota me to description pou exeis katw apo to nick sou to opoio se sindiasmo me to sign sou dinei ena entono aisthima geliou kai meta me auta pou lew egw.
Filika :wink:
Autos einai o deuteros logarismos pou anoigw edw giati ston prwto ekana kati kai to gamisa.
mmmm new kid on the block?Oxi kai toso pistepse me...
Ti provlima exeis me to sign mou?Mipws opote akous exodus sou matwnoun ta autia giati exeis synithisei na akous malakies?Ante kane stin akri kollimene, roufa to augoulaki sou ekei pera kai mi milas.
Gelio prokaloun auta pou les esy, to ilithio avatar kai to ilithio signature sou.
morphine
25-11-2003, 17:33
8ee mou ti malakies
OPADOI TOU METAL ENW8EITE
EIMASTE KALUTEROI AP'OLOUS YEAH
oi an8rwpoi 8a eprepe na "enwnontai" an exoun koina endiaferonta (genika), tairiazoun kai kanoun kalh parea.
A akous savatage? Eisai filos mou. Akous ploutarxo? Ton poulo.
Paparies.
Kati tetoia legontai kai tous metallades tous 8ewroun ka8usterhmenous, komple3ikous kai kollhmenous.
Kai anyhow apo pou ki ws pou na asxoleitai kapoios me to ti mousikh akouei kapoios allos, se va8mo pou na 8elei na kanei koino metwpo me "omoideates" tou gia na polemhsoun thn allh kakia mousikh?
Eleos
The_Sentinel
25-11-2003, 17:33
allaxate titlous vlepw....Psaroukla....Sigoura kalytero apo to kammenos
daydreamer
25-11-2003, 17:36
Morhine Child said it all!!!! :wink:
StationEleven
25-11-2003, 17:41
Sentinel gela prota me to description pou exeis katw apo to nick sou to opoio se sindiasmo me to sign sou dinei ena entono aisthima geliou kai meta me auta pou lew egw.
Filika :wink:
Autos einai o deuteros logarismos pou anoigw edw giati ston prwto ekana kati kai to gamisa.
mmmm new kid on the block?Oxi kai toso pistepse me...
Ti provlima exeis me to sign mou?Mipws opote akous exodus sou matwnoun ta autia giati exeis synithisei na akous malakies?Ante kane stin akri kollimene, roufa to augoulaki sou ekei pera kai mi milas.
Gelio prokaloun auta pou les esy, to ilithio avatar kai to ilithio signature sou.
kalitera na mhn asxolhse giati einai einai kai poly defender of true metal kai 8a se deirei :P
Raven Lord
25-11-2003, 17:44
Kati tetoia legontai kai tous metallades tous 8ewroun [...] kollhmenous.
τώρα το ξέρω ότι αλλάζω θέμα και παρόλο που συμφωνώ μαζί σου, υπάρχει και μια άλλη διάσταση στο θέμα του "κολλήματος". πολλές φορές ένας metalhead θεωρείται "κολλημένος" μόνο και μόνο επειδή δεν του αρέσει η μουσική που ακούει η πλειοψηφία. Δηλαδή, αυτόματα στο μυαλό ενός άλλου το "νορμαλ" είναι να ακολουθείς τα γούστα των πολλών, οπότε αν πεις "δεν μου αρέσει η pop μουσική" είσαι εξ'ορισμού "κολλημένος". π.χ. Λέω εγώ ένα βράδυ στην παρέα μου "σήμερα δεν θα έρθω στο club που θα πάτε εσείς γιατί δεν μου αρέσει η μουσική, αλλά θα πάω στο Texas". "άντε ρε κολλημένε" θα μου απαντήσουν. Αυτοί που θα πάνε στο club φυσικά δεν καταλαβαίνουν ότι στα δικά μου μάτια, αυτοί είναι οι κολλημένοι που δεν δέχονται τη διαφορετικότητά μου.
Dragonlord
25-11-2003, 18:12
oso milame gia OPADOUS kai oxi akroates mousikhs 8a vlepoume tetoies paparies.mhn ypovivazete thn (ypoti8etai) texnh se podosfairo
Den mporeis na amfisbitiseis to fainomeno tou opadismou sti mousiki kai poly perissotero sti skliri mousiki, eite ayto einai punk, eite metal, eite hardrock. H istoria to exei dei3ei kai malista me poly plousia paradeigmata akoma kai twn antiproswpwn tou ka8e eidous (milaw gia ta meli megalwn 'h mi group). Twra ean ayto einai ikano na ypobibasei tin a3ia tis mousikis ayto einai allo kai den to 3erw....
den to amfisvhtw,to katakrinw.
dld pes oti o opadismos px sthn politikh dikaiologeitai logw tou oti an vgei to komma pou yposthrizei kapoios,pisteuei (ypoti8etai) pws 8a alla3ei h zwh olwn pros to kalytero.yposthrizontas kapoios thn agaphmenh tou mousikh ti kerdizei,autos h opoiosdhpote?o ka8enas akouei o,ti ton euxaristei kai teleiwse..wxou
Stormtrooper
25-11-2003, 18:41
Oso ki an symfwnw mazi sou, prepei na dextoume to gegonos ws exei, opws episis pws oloi mas pisteyw, exoume antidrasei me paromoious tropous. Toulaxiston egw to exw kanei yperaketes fores....
irreligious
25-11-2003, 19:09
it's only rock n roll and i like it...
to metal(pou akouo perissotero apo alla eidi vlepe rock,trip hop,blues) mporei na dosei se emena perissotera pragmata ap'oti tha dosei ston skyla to cd tis ellis kokkinou...den tha katso omos na ton theoriso apeili i na tsakotho mazi tou epeidi aftos den katalavainei ti akouo....
an ksefyga apo to thema sygxournatai me... :P den diavasa ola ta post :P
Merikoi exoun kseperasei to orio tou geloiou.Aggizoun tin grafikotita.
Station ouuuuuu marh!
StationEleven
25-11-2003, 20:08
Merikoi exoun kseperasei to orio tou geloiou.Aggizoun tin grafikotita.
giasena milas e?
basika se exw starxidia mou kaisena kai opoion allo de me "paei" opote psofiste 8)
Dragonlord
25-11-2003, 20:41
Oso ki an symfwnw mazi sou, prepei na dextoume to gegonos ws exei, opws episis pws oloi mas pisteyw, exoume antidrasei me paromoious tropous. Toulaxiston egw to exw kanei yperaketes fores....
mm ki egw to exw kanei alla to paleuw:p
8elw na pisteuw pws stamathsa na to kanw otan syneidhtpoihsa pws to metal koino exei to idio pososto ka8ysterhmenwn me opoiadhpote megalh maza an8rwpwn.exw gnwrisei gamw ta atoma pou akoun metal,opws kai allous e3isou gamatous pou den exoun akousei pote.de vriskw kanena logo na antitax8w tous akroates enos eidous mousikhs h ena eidos mousikhs-eidika apo th stigmh pou ta perissotera eidh mou aresoun,allo ligotero ki allo perissotero
it's only rock n roll and i like it...
to metal(pou akouo perissotero apo alla eidi vlepe rock,trip hop,blues) mporei na dosei se emena perissotera pragmata ap'oti tha dosei ston skyla to cd tis ellis kokkinou...
mm kai pali den einai apolyto.ki egw mporw na pw pws to cd tou ploutarxou mporei na dwsei se ena skyla perissotera apo osa 8a dwsei se ena metalla to kainourgio rhapsody-h opoiodhpote metal cd,de mporeis na eisai mesa sto myalo tou allou th stigmh pou akouei kati gia na 3ereis ti pairnei apo auto.gia na to akouei,kati 8a tou vgazei.ok polloi einai "8ymata" ths modas klp klp alla kai sto metal ginetai auto,ISWS se mikroterh klimaka.kai ok enorxhstrwtika/syn8etika/anything ena tragoudi twn wotan px (sorry alla auto htan to xeirotero prama pou akousa teleutaia,de mporw na skeftw kalytero paradeigma auth th stigmh) de mporei kaneis na yposthri3ei oti einai "kalytero" apo ena ths kokkinou h tou ploutarxou
irreligious
25-11-2003, 20:56
yea...to skeftika pos kapoios tha to pei afto....apla dedomenou to pos vlepeis o kathenas tin mousiki to leo...diladi....apo tin apopsi tou oti ego to draconian times tha to akouo kai gia arketo kairo akoma (opos kai to akouo arketo kairo) eno o skylas(apo atoma pou ksero to leo) to cd tis kokkinou tha to akouei mexri na vgei kati pou na tou aresei(?) perissotero...and so the story goes... :P
freak brother
25-11-2003, 22:29
pali kala pou apo ths parees mou mono egw akouw skyladika.. alla ama akougan autoi egw den tha tous ekana parea giati tha pairna ton rolo tou true kietsi..
Dragonlord
25-11-2003, 23:42
yea...to skeftika pos kapoios tha to pei afto....apla dedomenou to pos vlepeis o kathenas tin mousiki to leo...diladi....apo tin apopsi tou oti ego to draconian times tha to akouo kai gia arketo kairo akoma (opos kai to akouo arketo kairo) eno o skylas(apo atoma pou ksero to leo) to cd tis kokkinou tha to akouei mexri na vgei kati pou na tou aresei(?) perissotero...and so the story goes... :P
yea apla o skylas 8a exei kai kana kazatzidh h akoma kai sfakianakh pou de vgazei syxna diskous kai osoi ton akoun tous akoune kai kairo meta..profanws h skylopop exei perissoterous eukairiakous opadous pou akoune mono o,ti einai ths modas alla tetoioi yparxoun kai sto metal..posoi dld sto lykeio den akougan gia 2 xronia metal kai meta na to parathsoun teleiws?plaka plaka dld akoma ki egw eixa en8ousiastei me to ntempouto twn rhapsody,to deutero to agorasa alla telika de marese kai otan evgalan to trito eixa papsei na asxoloumai me to styl..kai exw filh pou akouei akoma to prwto tou ploutarxou.
epanalamvanw pws sth skylopop oi eukairiakoi einai perissoteroi ap'oti sto metal,ki auto einai logiko logw tou oti ta teleutaia hits prow8ountai poly apo ta media.apla se ka8e ma ka8e eidos yparxoun toso oi afosiwmenoi oso kai oi "asxetoi" :wink:
Amnesiac.
25-11-2003, 23:59
8elw na pisteuw pws stamathsa na to kanw otan syneidhtpoihsa pws to metal koino exei to idio pososto ka8ysterhmenwn me opoiadhpote megalh maza an8rwpwn.
ayti einai mia aisiodoksi apopsi.
rockavlon
26-11-2003, 01:02
poia adelfopoihsh kai pipes ? poios eipe oti thelw na aisthanomai "adelfos" me tis adelfes pou akoune th sklhrh mousikh l.x. twn him kai twn anathema thn wra. i autwn pou akoune barbaric trisatanik katsarolik i autwn pou akoune mizerere radiokefal GYSBE, GYBSE klp.
purity re - o kathenas ta gousta tou. zhtw to 1978-9 ws 1983 ante kai 4
a btw - de nomizw oti i epiloges sth mousikh anagkastika ypodhlwnoun efyes atomo i oxi. sigoura deixnoun pantws thn koultoura kai aisthitikh enos atomou.
Amnesiac.
26-11-2003, 01:12
ti eytyxia !! :)
o palios kalos rockavlos :)
welcome back brother :)
rockavlon
26-11-2003, 01:17
thank you TROU mpraders and sisters- \m/
na pethanete oloi - einai arage dynaton na yparksei filia metaksy andra kai gynaikas ? ti trwte twra ?
Amnesiac.
26-11-2003, 01:19
xynw.
rockavlon
26-11-2003, 01:22
bhxw.
Dragonlord
26-11-2003, 01:24
moun@res exysa
Stormtrooper
26-11-2003, 10:20
poia adelfopoihsh kai pipes ? poios eipe oti thelw na aisthanomai "adelfos" me tis adelfes pou akoune th sklhrh mousikh l.x. twn him kai twn anathema thn wra. i autwn pou akoune barbaric trisatanik katsarolik i autwn pou akoune mizerere radiokefal GYSBE, GYBSE klp.
purity re - o kathenas ta gousta tou. zhtw to 1978-9 ws 1983 ante kai 4
a btw - de nomizw oti i epiloges sth mousikh anagkastika ypodhlwnoun efyes atomo i oxi. sigoura deixnoun pantws thn koultoura kai aisthitikh enos atomou.
Ta 'pe kai ka8arise o 8EOS :P
De mou les, to Port Royal pou bgike to '87 na to akousw??? :P :P
Nomizw pantws pws exeis apolyto dikio. Af'enos anaferes tin pio agni gia to Metal epoxi (N.W.O.B.H.M. reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee), af'eterou den nomizw pws ta alla eidi skliris mousikis exoun to eyros kai tin poiotita tou Hard Rock-Metal ekeinis tis epoxis... Gnwmi mou panta (i opoia syni8ws einai kai swsti :twisted: )
basika se exw starxidia mou kaisena kai opoion allo de me "paei" opote psofiste
exmm ksereis auti tin fora den anaferomoun se sena.pistepse me 8)
Afou ksereis poso sagapaw kai maresei na se peirazw :*
Akousa kai Station Eleven stou Panou.
Hardcore re mounia,Nai RE,GAMW RE!
lost_icon
26-11-2003, 15:40
np tolhs tsimogiannhs -kai kaneis kai zhmies- :D
lost_icon
26-11-2003, 15:42
gamw th metal,zhtw to hip hop! :D
zhMNIes!
up the gkei xoreytes \m/
Amnesiac.
26-11-2003, 16:27
gamw to metal.
StationEleven
26-11-2003, 19:42
basika se exw starxidia mou kaisena kai opoion allo de me "paei" opote psofiste
exmm ksereis auti tin fora den anaferomoun se sena.pistepse me 8)
Afou ksereis poso sagapaw kai maresei na se peirazw :*
Akousa kai Station Eleven stou Panou.
Hardcore re mounia,Nai RE,GAMW RE!
xmmmmm
me kollhses :roll:
Chopped In Half
26-11-2003, 19:55
Το "αδελφοποίηση" στον τίτλο ακούγεται κάπως. =P
rockavlon
26-11-2003, 20:29
ti ennoeis gamas to metal ? sta orgia sou xrhshmopoieis kai diskous ???
siga min "tsimpisw". kai gw exw grammena ta mizerere. so what ?!
FIREHOUSE RE MOUNIA . akouw to prime time .. auta einai ...
atom_smasher
27-11-2003, 01:26
firehouse rules!
aderfopoihsh?gia kanenan logo.
freak brother
27-11-2003, 03:59
e den eiste kaloi xristiannoi tote... lupame..
StationEleven
27-11-2003, 08:41
ouk nouk re
Stormtrooper
27-11-2003, 10:29
FIREHOUSE RE MOUNIA . akouw to prime time .. auta einai ...
NAI, NAI, NAI... Firehouse, Cinderella, Fastway, Faster Pussycat, Gotthard kai ta myala sta kagkela!!!
POZE DOZE!!!!
morphine
27-11-2003, 15:59
poseries > metal
AHHAhAHHAhHAhAhhhAHHAhHAhAH
Oute kata dianoia.
rockavlon
27-11-2003, 23:07
oi pozeries einai metal ... kai solo exoun ki apo ola.
kserw gw oi motley kalh ora den itan pedal to the metal ?
baragane asxhma ....
Witchkiller
29-11-2003, 00:37
Goustarw na foraw ta karfia mou kai to ''skantzoxeiro'' ,na tsitwnw to Marshall mou kai na ta gamw ola.
Goustarw omws na skaw myth kai sto GIWRGARO (ti tha pei pios einai o GIWRGAROS ,o enas kai monadikos ,o THEOS MARGARITHS) ,n'anaibenw panw sta trapezia kai na GAMIEMAI STO BELLY DANCE (eidika otan synodeyokmai apo klassiko kselole skylomoutro).SKYLADIKA RULEZ REEEEEEEEEEEEE! Gela Kyria Mou ,Gela Mazi Mou ,Gela Kyria Mou ,Gela Kalh Mou ,kai klama o Witchkiller re paidaki mou!
Anigei to mataki mou ,pws to lene.Kai nai ,goustarw kai th mousikh (otan bebaia milame gia parakmiako skyladiko kai oxi gia Bandides kai loipes malakies)!Koustoumia ,sketh palamida ,Jiamarco Venturi kai bgale,trapezaki reserve st'onoma Konstadene KAI DWSE.
AGIO ME THELEIS
H' AMARTOLO
PES MOU TI NA KANW
SE PARAKALW
KONSTANTINOPOULOS = GOD!
rockavlon
29-11-2003, 01:50
me throws flowers :P and smashes plates .
Witchkiller
29-11-2003, 22:19
me throws flowers :P and smashes plates .
Agorina mou trelh kai palabh.Re pousth ,etsi kai skasoume mazi se kana Terlegka tha sou petakskw olo ton ethniko koipo kai to alsos ths N.Filadelfeias gia parth sou.Tha se thapsw sto garyfalo kai o THEOS tha paizei ''apo potiri se potiri ,se misw kai s'agapw''!
AVE ROCKAVLON.
TAKA TAKA TAKA NA TOU PAIZW PALAMAKIA
NA T'AGKALIAZW ,NA TOU KANW MAKIA MAKIA!
Teleytaia fora pou bgika me Warlord ton myisa sta mystika tou MPOUGA.Who's next?
epese kai to teleytaio propyrgio tou trou metal?
WIME!
mouaeheh
Teleytaia fora pou bgika me Warlord ton myisa sta mystika tou MPOUGA.Who's next?
O BLi][zER :P
Opoios me kataferei kerdizei mia vradya mazi mou.
Witchkiller
03-12-2003, 19:42
[zER]Opoios me kataferei kerdizei mia vradya mazi mou.
Mesa!
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