Asva - Futurists Against The Ocean

[Dragonlord]

www.dosfatales.com/asva.html (http://www.dosfatales.com/asva.html)
©2005 Mimicry Records

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1. Kill the Dog, Tie Them Up, Then Take the Money
2. Zaum: Beyonsense
3. Fortune
4. By the Well of Living and Seeing


Κριτική στο Electric Requiem Online Magazine (http://www.electricrequiem.com/modules/iNkReview/review.php?action=viewsingle&reviewID=86)

[XD]

To prwto track simpathitiko. To deftero track, den akougetai. Basika
den exei kati na akouseis. To trito track apo th mesh kai meta pou
mpainoun ta ginaikeia fwnhtika einai ok. E kai to tetarto track exei
ta perissotera fwnhtika sto disko kai thn perissoterh melwdia (?!?)
kai imo to kalytero tou diskou. (se genikes grammes tipota special)
Sxedon mainstream drone ( :lol: ) pantws. Paragwgh katharotath,
kati psila apo feedback, ta kommatia gia post-liwsimo antexontai
kai o reviewER pali kala den gemise spermata to plhktrologio tou
kata th diarkeia pou egrafe thn kritikh. Kai kapou edw den mporw
na sigkratithw kai na mhn petaksw thn otinanai skepsh mou, alla
kati tetxoia tragoudakia (!?!) ena Oceana ta bazei katw kai ta gamaei
alyphta kai basanistika, alla ok, den anhkoun oi the 3rd and the Mortal
sto neo psagmeno xwro. MONO oti einai sludgedronia agkizei to Theio.

[House Of Low Culture]

wraio to cdaki..
vasika h ekseliksh tou drone imo.Kati to opoio eixan kanei paliotera oi
Boris me to Amplifier Worship dld..Dld 1)se shmeia na exoume drumming kati to opoio dinei mia psevdais8hsh kinhshs sto teliko apotelezma.2)Ta gynaikeia fwnhtika panemorfa kai mysthriaka opws prepei gia na dinoun enan aera diaforetiko sthn "varemara" kai thn "monotonia"(polla eisagwgika) tou af8entikou drone.
Imo oson afora sto skelos (1) dn yparxei kapoia prwtotypia aplws h dokimi ksana kai ksana ths petyxhmenhs syntaghs twn Boris.Oson afora sto skelos (2) exoume ksanakousei sigoura idio styl mousikis me fwnhtika.Toso atairiasta omws me thn mavrila ths mousikis kai taftoxrona toso ma toso tairiasta,pote ksana.Anamenoume mellontikes prospa8eies apo ta amerikanakia loipon.
Pistevw pws exoun polla akoma na mas poun...

[Chopped In Half]

Kai kapou edw den mporw
na sigkratithw kai na mhn petaksw thn otinanai skepsh mou, alla
kati tetxoia tragoudakia (!?!) ena Oceana ta bazei katw kai ta gamaei
alyphta kai basanistika, alla ok, den anhkoun oi the 3rd and the Mortal
sto neo psagmeno xwro.
:D :D

[Kingdom Gone]

kai o reviewER pali kala den gemise spermata to plhktrologio tou
kata th diarkeia pou egrafe thn kritikh. Kai kapou edw den mporw
na sigkratithw kai na mhn petaksw thn otinanai skepsh mou, alla
kati tetxoia tragoudakia (!?!) ena Oceana ta bazei katw kai ta gamaei
alyphta kai basanistika, alla ok, den anhkoun oi the 3rd and the Mortal
sto neo psagmeno xwro. MONO oti einai sludgedronia agkizei to Theio.

xm. i oli kritikh pou ekana (nai egw imoun, ela pou de to perimenes :P) itan sta plaisia tou sludge/drone/opws-thes-peston hxo. den exw akousei 3rd and the mortal gia na tous sygkrinw oute exei shmasia. giauto pou einai to album einai (imho profanws) mia xara kai vale kai etsi to ekrina. oute takouw 24/7 oute to thewrw oti kalytero vgike pote sti mousikh (oute to album oute ton hxo auto genikotera) kai den amfivallw oti oi 3rd and the mortal pithanws na tou gamane ta prekia kai autou kai twn Sannwn.

de kserw kata poso exei nohma auto to post afou apla ti gnwmh sou les kai mporei na vgainw o kompleksikos tis ypothesis. alla to kana GIATI POLY MOY TI MPAINEIS TWRA TELEYTAIA FILARAKI. Sovara twra, apla de katalava kai poly giati ypirxe logos giauto to sxolio. an me thewreis kollimeno vlaka pou akouei oti malakia tou serviroun ws psagmeno, dikaiwma sou kai paizei kai na isxyei, de kserw. alla sta plaisia autou tou kollhmatos nomizw den eipa tpt yperboliko.

o kompleksikos tou forum sas.

ps: pa nakousw post-rock

[XD]

lol? Oxi den perimena oti htan dikh sou h kritikh oute phge to myalo
mou kan. Kai to "kai o reviewER pali kala den gemise spermata to
plhktrologio tou kata th diarkeia pou egrafe thn kritikh." an den to
katalabes einai kati thetiko. Dhladh, na sto grapsw kai alliws, h
kritikh sou htan GG, opws prepei, OK den to gamhses to thema.
Kai o logos pou to grapsa afto einai giati sinithws se kritikes
sludge/drone/ktl pou diabazw yparxei h entonh tash na
thewpoieite oti pio kammeno yparxei poy toulaxiston me ta
dika mou krithria einai krima na ginetai afto kai polla groups
pou aksizoun parapanw na menoun sthn apeksw. Kai pera
thn tsantila mou pragmatika einai tragiko na diabazw se ena
review : PWPW TI THEIKH RIFFARA POU PAIZEI STO TADE SHMEIO,
PRAGMATIKA NIWTHW TO SYMPAN NA KSANADHMIOURGEITE (p.x.)
kai se ekeino to shmeio na akougetai ena riff apoteloumeno apo
3 xtyphmata 2 diaforetikwn xordwn epi 16 fores afto to prama...

Oso gia to oti sth mpainw, pera apo to prwto post mou sto
thema sigur ros, den eimoun kapou allou "kafstikos". Ki etsi
ki alliws kai na me brizes de tha sou lega tipota. ok egrapses
ta sxolia sou panw sthn gkabla/fash/me8h/nirvana/otidhpote
kai gw se analogh periptwsh, paromoia pramata tha 'xa grapsei.
Etsi ki alliws simfwnisa/anefera pws oi sigur ros einai mageftikoi
ana faseis [tis teleftaies 2 bdomades exw liwsei na tous akouw
+ edw kai 2 meres omorfa mou krataei syntrofia to AsvA] opote
en merh den diafwnisa me oti egrapses. Kleinwntas, mia allh
anafora se sigur ros pou 'xa kanei, den phgaine sena. [eixa
diefkrinisei malista pou phgaine] Anyway.

A. Kai den ftaiw egw pou oi sludge/drone/k.t.l. akroates dinete
thn entypwsh twn probatwn, twn theopoioyme_oti_pio_minimal,
anempnefto_kai_kakopaigmeno_akoume. Gia na mhn dexeste
sxolia san ta dika mou [kai xeirotera], apodikste mas oti den eiste
apla agamhtoi ilithioi. P.x. pragmatika xarhka otan akousa to Yob to
teleftaio kai GAMOUSE kai meta diabasa kritikes gi'afto kai gia ta
ipoloipa kai htan thetikes kai ontws gamousan kai ta ypoloipa otan
ta akousa. Dhl. ok afth einai periptwsh pou aksize na eisai
enthousiasmenos me ena album. Epishs, as to poume oti xarhka
me thn kritikh tou AsvA pou den einai (poli) paratrabigmenh. Alla
otan diabazw gia to kainourgio Boris oti einai apistefto, h px afta
pou exeis grapseis gia to teleftaio Velvet Cacoon mou girizoun ta
antera anapoda. Ok, kai 'gw ama akoysw Velvet Cacoon to bradi
enw exw skasei ena mpafo kai exw malwsei kai me tous goneis
px h mou xei peksei poustia h kopelia kai eimai se *x* gamopsyxh
fash, akougontas kati analogo ths peristashs [px ena Genevieve
pou to xw kai megalh adinamia] mporw na sou grapsw oloklhro
poihma gia to poso aksizei to album. E otan tha to akousw px 2
meres meta enw serfarw kai pinw mia bisinada, paizei na me
afhsei kai teleiws adiaforo. Proswpika toulaxiston , tha grapsw
poli thetika gia ena album pou opxiadhpote stigmh na to akousw
tha me agkiksei kai shmantikh proypothesh na yparxei arketo skill.
Ama apousiazei tha to anaferw ama einai na sxoliasw, giati alliws
mou fenetai pws adikw albums me perissotero skill. An kai afto einai
allo kai megalo thema kai den prokeitai na bgei akrh. Alliws krinei o
kathenas kai basika "gousta einai afta". Anyway. Nothing personal.

[Kingdom Gone]

xm. ok. pareksigisa, kai vgika ontws o kompleksikos tis ypothesis. nomisa oti to kommati pou quotara mou tin 'elege" (genika kai eidika gia to review) den epiasa to klima pou graftike. eimai o prwtos pou tha paradextei pws exw grapsei yperboles, den einai k kako stin telikh.

epishs to post mou fainotan eristiko alla den itan, mallon to dietypwsa lathos (i den evala ta katallhla emoticons na fainetai pote ennow kati sovara kai pote oxi). px ekei pou lew "mou thn mpaineis" to grapsa teleiws eirwnika, giauto lew meta "sovara twra" klp, den exw kana problima m auta pou les. kai sto sigur ros thread paradexthka emesws pws exeis dikio (kai outws i allws eixa piei otan to grafa to epimaxo post). auta, malakia mou.

:oops:

[regularpaul]

Proswpika toulaxiston , tha grapsw
poli thetika gia ena album pou opxiadhpote stigmh na to akousw
tha me agkiksei kai shmantikh proypothesh na yparxei arketo skill.

Aυτό ακριβώς δηλαδή που αισθάνομαι εγώ ΚΑΘΕ φορά που ακούω το dronevil ή το feedbacker (ανάλογα σε ποιο από τα 2 αναφέρεσαι ως τελευταίο boris).

[XD]

Ntaks, xalara, den trexei tipota. Aplws ama pote sou dwthei h efkeria,
akouse to Tears Laid In Earth twn the 3rd and the Mortal [kai pxio
sygkekrimena to Oceana pou anaferw an kai ola ta kommatia einai
gamisterotata] kai isws katalabeis gia pxio logw egrapsa afto pou
egrapsa. Aplws, ws proswpiko kolhma, aisthanomai asxhma pou
kapxia poliagaphmena mou groups adikountai kai mou einai adinaton
na sigkratithw kai na mhn ta anaferw otan oi peristaseis, eite ligo eite
poly, to sykwnoun. Bebaia, ok, isws na mhn sou fanei toso gamistero
oso lew [na antistrafoun oi roloi dhladh] kai na mou peis : "kala re XD
ti pipes eleges oti gamaei to AsvA sto xalaro kai mou to protines ki
olas. Afto einai bareto kai problepsimo mexri thanatou" E tote, OK
filaraki, h leme ena "gousta" h ena "ante gamisou" kai telos. [dhl.
sthn telikh sto mpoutso sou kai an ekanes thn kritikh synaisthimatika
fortismenos. Ypokeimenika grafeis opote eisai OK. oti kai na ipwthei.]

[Once_Emperor]

...PWPW TI THEIKH RIFFARA POU PAIZEI STO TADE SHMEIO,PRAGMATIKA NIWTHW TO SYMPAN NA KSANADHMIOURGEITE (p.x.)kai se ekeino to shmeio na akougetai ena riff apoteloumeno apo 3 xtyphmata 2 diaforetikwn xordwn epi 16 fores afto to prama...


post fav riff.

[XD]

Proswpika toulaxiston , tha grapsw
poli thetika gia ena album pou opxiadhpote stigmh na to akousw
tha me agkiksei kai shmantikh proypothesh na yparxei arketo skill.

Aυτό ακριβώς δηλαδή που αισθάνομαι εγώ ΚΑΘΕ φορά που ακούω το dronevil ή το feedbacker (ανάλογα σε ποιο από τα 2 αναφέρεσαι ως τελευταίο boris).
Anamenomeno afto pou egrapses paul. Opws egrapsa omws :

An kai afto einai allo kai megalo thema kai den prokeitai na bgei akrh.
Alliws krinei o kathenas kai basika "gousta einai afta".
Kai den nomizw pws to thema einai "pws krinei o XD" kai oyte pistebw
endiaferei kapxoion afto, opote den yparxei logos na katsw na kanw
mia terastia analysh gia to pws krinw mhpws kai ginei katanohto to
skeptiko mou kai px ektimhsete perissotero/alliws kapxia pragmata.

[Kveldssanger]

Πάντως, ναι και γω προτιμώ το Tears από το Αsva, αλλά πραγματικά δεν νομίζω ούτε ότι είναι συγκρίσιμα, ούτε ότι κάποιος φίλος του ήχου των Asva είναι σίγουρο ότι θα βρει τους 3rd and the mortal ενδιαφέροντες.

[regularpaul]

ΧD, εγώ απλώς παρέθεσα το σημείο του κειμένου σου με το οποίο συμφωνώ. Αν το πιστεύεις αυτό που έγραψες πραγματικά, θα δεχτείς ότι αυτό ισχύει για μένα και τις κριτικές μου.

Παρότι δεν κατάλαβα το 2ο σημείο του post σου, να θυμίσω ότι στα + ενός online magazine σαν το ER, είναι η αμφίδρομη σχέση μεταξύ συντάκτη/αναγνώστη. Με το σχόλιό σου, εσύ είσαι ο συντάκτης κι εμείς οι υπόλοιποι, οι αναγνώστες. Και είτε το πιστεύεις είτε όχι, η άποψη του XD ενδιαφέρει κάποιους.

[XD]

Πάντως, ναι και γω προτιμώ το Tears από το Αsva, αλλά πραγματικά δεν νομίζω ούτε ότι είναι συγκρίσιμα, ούτε ότι κάποιος φίλος του ήχου των Asva είναι σίγουρο ότι θα βρει τους 3rd and the mortal ενδιαφέροντες.

Kai kapou edw den mporw na sigkratithw kai na mhn
petaksw thn otinanai skepsh mou, alla kati tetxoia tragoudakia (!?!)
ena Oceana ta bazei katw kai ta gamaei alyphta kai
basanistika
Kveld, gi'afto akribws den to petaw xyma : "oi fan twn AsvA trabixte
akouste 3rd" kai diefkrinizw oti h skepsh mou einai "otinanai". An kai
proswpika exei logikh. H ekseliksh ton AsvA tha mporouse na htan
kati paromoio me 3rd opote den einai kati asxeto. [me th proypothesh
pws ekseliksh = kapoia poliplokothta parapanw + perissoterh poikilia]

Pantws otan anaferw tous 3rd gia 2h fora kai tous protinw ston
Kingdom den to kanw mono giati proswpika briskw kapxoia sxesh
me AsvA, alla kai giati bash twn goustwn tou Kingdom ap'oso exw
parathrhsei, den to kobw na ton afhsoun adiaforo.

[XD]

ΧD, εγώ απλώς παρέθεσα το σημείο του κειμένου σου με το οποίο συμφωνώ. Αν το πιστεύεις αυτό που έγραψες πραγματικά, θα δεχτείς ότι αυτό ισχύει για μένα και τις κριτικές μου.

Παρότι δεν κατάλαβα το 2ο σημείο του post σου, να θυμίσω ότι στα + ενός online magazine σαν το ER, είναι η αμφίδρομη σχέση μεταξύ συντάκτη/αναγνώστη. Με το σχόλιό σου, εσύ είσαι ο συντάκτης κι εμείς οι υπόλοιποι, οι αναγνώστες. Και είτε το πιστεύεις είτε όχι, η άποψη του XD ενδιαφέρει κάποιους.
:pingpong:

Man afto pou enoousa p.x. einai pws sthn periptwsh mou egw grafw
pws to Tears twn 3rd GAMAEI AENAON = opxoia stigmh kai na to
akousw me agkizei kai me porwnei. Esy grafeis pws to tade Boris
GAMAEI AENAON = opxoia stigmh kai na to akouseis se agkizei kai
se porwnei. E, erxomai kai sou lew oti sthn kritikh soy ton paizeis
kai "theopoieis" mia metriothta kai yperbaleis. Esy apo thn meria
sou epikalise pws einai h ypokeimenikh sou apopsh opote grafeis
oti thes (apo thn stigmh pou den me prosbaleis eisai ok) Egw apo
thn allh, epikaloumai pws kai afto pou lew einai ypokeimenikh mou
apopsh opote kai gw grafw oti thelw (bebaia den exw dikaiwma na
se prosbalw, opote ama to kanw aftomatws sou dinw to dikaiwma
na me prosbaleis kai sy) Kai analoga tha sinexistei h fash eite se
sizhthsh, eite se flame, an kai basika oti kai na prokypsei den to
kobw na bgainei akrh giati poly apla o kathenas mas exei alla
diaforetika krithria + afto einai xiliosizhthmeno thema opou
epikratoun p.x. 5-6 apopseis sthn pliopsifia, opou h kathe apopsh
exei alla posa karakladia kai en telh akomh kai aftoi pou epifaniaka
fenetai na exoun idies gnwmes, diafwnoun. (poli midenismos epese)

[regularpaul]

συμφωνώ απόλυτα με ό,τι έγραψες :D

*Δεν τέθηκε θέμα προσβολής σε κανένα σημείο.

[symposium_lexotanil]

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