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Dragonlord
23-11-2003, 18:55
STRATOVARIUS guitarist Timo Tolkki has posted the following message on the band's official web site:

"I am in the process of talking seriously with each bandmember about the future of STRATOVARIUS.

"There are lots of rumours circling around and this statement is issued to clear some of those.

"The band is in a severe crisis at the moment.

"Looking back now, it is very clear to me why the situation has catapulted into crisis.

"I have my own way to lead STRATOVARIUS and since being in this band since '84 (almost 20 years) I have had a very clear vision about the musical direction of STRATO. To put it short and simple, this is my band.

"I decide what STRATOVARIUS sounds like. Stylists might decide how STRATOVARIUS looks like. I don't give a fuck about that though, I love music and we are not some fucking BACKSTREET BOYS. We eat metal and shit chains.

"Before some of you start shouting 'dictator', I would like to tell you that we have always shared the income from the band equally. Everyone gets the same from all income. I can tell you many bands when it's not like this.

"Up until very last weeks I though things were fine, there have been arguments, but nothing fancy. At this point I feel that my vision of where to take STRATOVARIUS next is threatened. Along with many other things, which I cannot tell you due to legal reasons. Let me just say this: when the things get so heated that some people in the band enter into fistfight, then something is wrong, wouldn't you agree?

"I am talking with [singer Timo] Kotipelto and [bassist Jari] Kainulainen here in Finland at the moment and next week I fly to New York to talk to [keyboardist Jens] Johansson. Then I fly to Germany to talk to [drummer Jorg] Michael. And then I have to think.

"So you guys have to wait for some more time for some more news.

"At this point it seems 95% sure that 3 bandmembers have to leave. I really hope I can work things out with them, but if not, then they will have to go.

"And to those who say I should leave STRATOVARIUS I say, hmmm well, perhaps it's better that I don't say anything, so I just say, 'Fuck Off!' I am not leaving anywhere, we just signed this new deal and I am going to continue writing new songs and there will be more albums, no matter what the line up will be.

"Stay tuned for more..."

VirusXI
23-11-2003, 19:24
"We eat metal and shit chains." ayta einai \m/
allages mplampla alla mousika idies paparies 8a grafei opote χου γκιβζ έι φλάινγκ σιτ

The_Emperor
23-11-2003, 21:00
poioi lete na einai oi 3? (oxi oti tha xasoume ton ypno mas bebaia...)

ean den eixa diabasei th synenteyksh toy tragoudisth tha orkizomoun oti einai oi 3 ypoloipoi oi opoioi epeidh san mousikoi gamane (den pisteyo na yparxei kaneis pou na pisteyei oti o mpassistas den einai theos, o plhktras epishs eno kai o michael den mporei na paiksei tis kaltses toy...) tha theloun na paiksoun kati endiaferon pera apo ta idia kai ta idia...

alla o idios o kotipelto elege oti den toy aresoun merika kommatia sto album kai den kserei giati mphkan...opote ki aytounou h thesh isos trizei...

kati pou isos ksexname oloi osoi exoume ksegrapsei toys strato :
ean skeftoume ti mousikous exei ayth h mpanta, ti mousikh paizoun kai ti tha mporousan na paizoun einai na bazeis ta klammata...

The Butcher
23-11-2003, 21:48
We eat metal and shit chains
mpravo! gnisios metallas!\m/


den pisteyo na yparxei kaneis pou na pisteyei oti o mpassistas den einai theos, o plhktras epishs eno kai o michael den mporei na paiksei tis kaltses toy
egw de thewrw to mpasista toso "paixti" k dedomenou oti mou exei afisei tin entypwsi tou low-profile, de nomizw na paizei problima me ayton!
opote tha elega oti einai pio pithano na einai pros apoxwrisi oi alloi treis- eidika o drummer k o johansson gia eynoitous logous! :wink:

The_Emperor
23-11-2003, 22:25
an prosekseis edo kai polla album pou o tolki exei stamathsei na paizei riff ousiastika to mpasso exei analabei na kalyptei ola ta kena kai dinei mazi me ta tympana fysika olo ton apaitoumeno ogko...
epishs akomh kai sta pio grhgora kommatia to mpasso akougetai krystallo th stigmh pou oi perissoteroi mpassistes bgazoun baboura

ton theoro aristo mousiko

chris_boss
24-11-2003, 00:00
Emena giati mou fainetai sa na tou exoun bgalei to busma apo ton enisxuti? :twisted:

Amnesiac.
24-11-2003, 00:19
den akouw nu metal.

The_Emperor
24-11-2003, 00:21
Emena giati mou fainetai sa na tou exoun bgalei to busma apo ton enisxuti? :twisted:

klassikos mpasistas pou thelei na akougetai panta perissotero apo olous!
:P

Dragonlord
24-11-2003, 00:39
STRATOVARIUS keyboardist Jens Johansson has offered the following comment via the group's official message board regarding the status of the band's lineup:

"Within the band we made the agreement that [guitarist/mainman] Timo [Tolkki] will decide who plays in the band, I mean on the records, live etc. I actually drew up the agreement myself, so that none of us would be able to entertain any illusions of 'hijacking' the band by a democratic majority vote or something. To me, I think this is a useful arrangement, I would say even if I get booted out as a result, believe it or not! I am a man of principles. And anyone is free to leave on their own volition too, of course. It's a band, not a concentration camp, like Yngwie used to say.

"I can assure you, nobody feels like leaving voluntarily. But what goes on in the hearts and minds of Finns is sometimes difficult to detect. Especially if they don't answer their phone!!!! If Timo wants to have new people in the band I would of course be very sad, because I quite enjoy working with these guys. But there is nothing I can do about how people feel. Either musically or about other things. Timo is a stubborn guy, or he wouldn't have gotten this far!"

The_Emperor
24-11-2003, 00:44
e nomizo einai safes oti oi finns menoun kai oi alloi ton poulo...
paei hdh o enas...
:P

Kingryche
24-11-2003, 04:22
logika o prwtos pou fevgei einai o Kotipelto.Exei valei mpros 2o disko me to prosopiko tou sxima e kai genika mallon exei stravosei me tin diktatoria tou Tolkki.Tora gia na leei oti paiksan mpounies mallon paratraviske to pragma.Krima vasika giati me ta 2 elements arxisan mia ksana anodiki poreia kai me ligh diaforopoiisi tha mporousan na kanoun wraia pragmata.Mporei na eimai kai o monos pou endiaferetai gia tous Strats vevaia...An meinei kapoios mallon o mpassistas to kovo na einai aftos.
Kaneis den kserei vevaia isos ena frskarisma kanei kalo stin mpanta.tha milame gia alli mpanta pantos etsi kai figei o Kotipelto.

Ethir
24-11-2003, 11:34
Popopo heavy metalos o tipos...mou sikothike i trixa.

After Dark
24-11-2003, 17:10
Vasika o Tolki de tha niwthe kai poly aneta,eidika an skeftoume oti stous 3 teleytaious diskous tous megalo xwro sta tragoudia katalamvanan ta keys tou Johansson.Parte sth seira ta "hitakia" tous kai tha katalavete:Hunting High,A Million Light Years,Eagleheart,I Walk To My Own Song.
Ektos aytou,toso o Johansson oso kai o Michael de nomizw oti se kammia periptwsh tha peinasoun.Kai xronia sthn piatsa einai kai terasties gnwseis exoun-tis 10plasies o kathenas apo ton Timo- kai oloi elegan oti xaramizan to talento tous stous Stravomarius.Eidika me ton Michael,meta apo tous papades pou epaize stous Mekong Delta,me to stroumfopaiksimo tou stous Strats eixa arxisei na sxhmatizw thn apopsh oti ksexase pws paizontai ta drums... :twisted:

sephiroth
24-11-2003, 20:30
Kai o Jens den paei pisw...
Ton akousa sto kainourio Spastik Ink kai emeina :shock:
Ti kathetai me ton Tolki otan mporei kai paizei me ton THEO Jarzombek? Lefta etsi kai alliws exei...

elolives
04-12-2003, 13:11
Otan diavasa tin anakoinosi tou Tolkki, exeplagin! Ostoso, eprepe kapoia gegonota na mas kinisoun tin ipopsia:
1. O Tolkki den itan paron sto studio report sti Germania, kati adianoito gia ton mainman mias badas, pou thelei na proothisei ti nea tou douleia...
2. O Tolkki den edose sinedeuxeis gia to neo album.To afise ston Kotipelto...
3.Oi Stratovarius eixan dialalisei oti den tha periodeusoun gia to neo tous album...
Iparxoun omos kai alla, pou tholonoun tin oli ipothesi:
a.O Michael mou eixe pei off the record oti exei analavei to management ton Stratovarius...
b. O idios mou eipe oti oi Stratovarius ta ofeiloun ola ston Tolkki, o opoios borei kai vgazei apo ton kathena ton kalitero tou eauto...
c. O Kotipelto prostateue me kathe dilosi tou ton Tolkki...

Vgalte ta dika sas siberasmata. O monos sigouros na sinexisei me tous Strato einai o Kainulainen. Oloi oi alloi einai ip atmon. Pados nea meli tha vrethun sigoura, afou to neo simvolaio tis badas me tin Sanctuary (gia tria albums kai me astronomiki amoivi gia tous Strato....) tha arxisei na trexei.

After Dark
04-12-2003, 16:50
....kai fysika h Nuclear Blast ekane thn kalyterh kinhsh na tous apodesmeysei giati me ta $$1,4 ekatomyrria gia 3 albums oxi mono de tha evgaze kerdos alla tha empaine kai xontra mesa(o,ti provlepetai dhladh me th Sanctuary).Epipleon,me kathe nea kykloforia twn Strats tha vgazei kai remastered olo to back catalogue tous me tpt bonus malakioules kai tha vgalei polla polla leftakia aneta.H Sanctuary koinws thn pathse xontra. 8)

Kingryche
05-12-2003, 05:40
STRATOVARIUS guitarist Timo Tolkki has posted the following message on the band's official web site:

"After speaking with all the band members I am now travelling to Berlin to talk with the Sanctuary team about the future of STRATOVARIUS.

"At this point I cannot say more about the situation. I am very sorry if my statements have offended someone. I have been under heavy pressure lately and my therapist has prescribed me some heavy antidepressants. They make it even more difficult for me to control my temper.

"I have received death threats, which has forced me to hire 2 bodyguards. They are both former military people with martial arts training. This is sad really, but what can you do?

"Anyway, I apologize once more if I have offended anyone with my comments. I hope you understand what kind of pressure we all are living in at the moment.

"I would like to say that things are not always what they seem. The music world can be very frustrating, largely due to legal and business matters. I hope I can tell you some news after returning from Berlin."

Krima to palikari...Ti sto diaolo poios kathete kai apeilei zoes gia ti mousiki?Alla kai aftos stous psixiatrous tin vgazei.Den ton pareksigo omos.Akouste to Father apo to prosopiko tou Hymn To Life kai tha katalavete oti kati den paei kala me afton kai den exei perasei liga.

katwrimos
05-12-2003, 22:18
O kotipelto einai 1.70 kai o tolkki 2 metra. An o kotipelto katafere na paiksei mpunies me ton tolkki tha ton kanume epitimo melos ton GWF skandinavia, mporei na einai xrisimos se kana skiniko :p

Sovara tora, oi stratovarius einai o tolkki. O michael kalitera na parei ton poulo. Kalos drummer alla ton varethika.

Oson afora to oti i sanctuary tha pesei ekso... no fucking way... Ta tragudia ton stratovarius an paixtun apo to mtv kai to radiofono tha ta akune kai 15xrona koritsakia stin aglia (ektos apo tin ellada :roll:). Edo oi him grapsane 2-3 hitakia kai ginane tis modas.

Tora gia tus tipus pu lene ti malakas einai o tolkki kai ti thelei o johansson kai paizei mazi tu exo na po ena prama :lol: :lol: :lol:

IMO to talento tu tolki sto snogwriting kai stis paragoges den to exei oli i eliniki skini mazi.

sephiroth
06-12-2003, 01:41
To na apokaleis kapoion hlithio apla epeidh eksefrase th gnwmh tou, se kanei akoma pio hlithio apo auton...

Solo Carriera
06-12-2003, 01:50
ektos an h gnwmh pou eksefrase htan teliws hlithia.

irreligious
06-12-2003, 01:54
opoios viazetai skontaftei

sephiroth
06-12-2003, 01:57
Apla den katalaba to gelio...

Kai ontws opoios biazetai skontaftei, gi'auto kai zhtw sugmnwmh gia to "hlithios". Diko mou to lathos.

Sunexizw omws na mhn katalabainw to gelio.

Dragonlord
06-12-2003, 11:16
STRATOVARIUS guitarist Timo Tolkki has reportedly told the Finnish daily newspaper Ilta-Sanomat that keyboardist Jens Johansson will definitely continue to be a member of the band once the group have sorted through their current personnel "crisis". The situation with the band's drummer, Jorg Michael, however, is still up in the air. According to Tolkki, Michael's wife is due to give birth to twins in January and it is not presently clear if the drummer has enough interest and motivation to continue playing with the group.

While he has yet to publicly reveal the cause of their disagreement (due to "legal reasons"), Tolkki has indicated that the biggest problem in the band exists with vocalist Timo Kotipelto, with whom the guitarist is said to have a "very strained" relationship.

When asked by a fan on his guestbook if there are any plans for STRATOVARIUS to play shows in America, Kotipelto responded, "Good question. I don't even know if I am in the band anymore."

Tolkki, who was recently "forced" to hire two bodyguards after receiving e-mail and phone threats from unknown individuals, flew to Berlin late last week to hold discussions with the band's record company, Sanctuary Records, about STRATOVARIUS' future.

In late October, STRATOVARIUS signed a three-album contract with Sanctuary Records in what was said to be the biggest-ever deal completed for a Finnish rock band (reportedly worth over $3.5 million dollars).

The_Painless
06-12-2003, 11:54
Pathetic. Ολη η ιστορία.

rockavlon
06-12-2003, 12:34
2 metra gaidaros kai thelei bodyguards ?

cancer
06-12-2003, 12:39
IMO to talento tu tolki sto snogwriting kai stis paragoges den to exei oli i eliniki skini mazi.
AXAXAXAAXaxAXAxaXaxaXAXAxxAHKhxahxstodialo

katwrimos
06-12-2003, 13:42
IMO to talento tu tolki sto snogwriting kai stis paragoges den to exei oli i eliniki skini mazi.
AXAXAXAAXaxAXAxaXaxaXAXAxxAHKhxahxstodialo

mipos enas apo tus logous pu eimaste ston pato einai oti den paradexomaste oti o alos einai kaliteros apo emas? :roll:

To proto vima gia na diorthoseis kapio elatoma einai na to paradexteis.

Episis otan eliniko sogrotima vgalei ena disko sto epipedo tu dreamspace i tou episode oson afora tin paragogi kai tis sintheseis ta ksanaleme :)

The_Painless
06-12-2003, 13:50
Oh dear oh dear γιατί ΟΛΑ τα threads πρέπει να πηγαίνουν στην ίδια συζήτηση; Δηλαδή το πόσο καλύτεροι είναι οι ξένοι από εμάς;
Δεν ξέρω αν στη Φινλανδία ισχύει το ίδιο με τη Σουηδία, δηλαδή ότι υπό συγκεκριμένες προϋποθέσεις το κράτος χρηματοδοτεί τους μουσικούς, αλλά εδώ το σίγουρο είναι ότι κάτι τέτοιο ΔΕ ΣΥΜΒΑΙΝΕΙ ΚΑΙ ΔΕΝ ΠΡΟΚΕΙΤΑΙ ΝΑ ΣΥΜΒΕΙ γιατί το κράτος έχει γραμμένο σταρχίδιατου τα πάντα, πόσο μάλλον τη "σκληρή" σκηνή.
Πέρα από αυτό, θεωρώ ότι δε σηκώνει διαφωνία το γεγονός ότι μια ελληνική μπάντα δεν έχει το ίδιο potential με μια σουηδική ή μια φινλανδική ή μια γερμανική ΟΧΙ ΛΟΓΩ ΕΛΛΕΙΨΗΣ ΤΑΛΕΝΤΟΥ ΟΠΩΣ ΕΝΤΕΛΩΣ ΛΑΝΘΑΣΜΕΝΑ ΠΙΣΤΕΥΕΙΣ αλλά γιατί δεν υπάρχει η αντίστοιχη υποδομή με αυτήν των αντίστοιχων χωρών, γιατί δεν υπάρχουν κίνητρα, γιατί δεν υπάρχουν φράγκα και γιατί κανείς δεν αναγνωρίζει τα ταλέντα εκτός κι αν πρόκειται για το Σγούρο, τον Καβάκο κ.ο.κ.

katwrimos
06-12-2003, 18:03
Katerina pote den eipa oti den iparxei talento. Den iparxei mialo gia dulia kathos kai ipodomes. Talento iparxei apeiro. Edo sti suidia patao sto lemo to 90% ton kithariston tis komitias mu 8) (apoti vlepo sta fests diladi). Eno o gus theoritai afti ti stigmi enas apo tus kaliterus kitharistes tu metal (oxi adika).

Omos stin elada, epidi exume talento, nomizume oti o logos pu den petixenume einai giati eimaste atixoi/eimaste antiemporikoi/den mas thelun oi ksenoi/o kosmos einai kakogustos klp. Stin usia i kiria aitia einai oti den iparxei mialo gia dulia, den iparxun sovara studio kai den iparxun sovara atoma na kathodigisun mia nea mpanta me talento...

Pantos ego epimeno na theoro ton Tolkki kalitero songwriter kai paragogo apo opiondipote elina. Vevaia afta einai ipokeimenika...

The Butcher
06-12-2003, 18:18
akoma k ayto pou eipes:

Pantos ego epimeno na theoro ton Tolkki kalitero songwriter kai paragogo apo opiondipote elina. Vevaia afta einai ipokeimenika...
(pou ok, mporei kallista na min isxyei alla sevasti i apopsi sou), exei terastia diafora apo ayto:

IMO to talento tu tolki sto snogwriting kai stis paragoges den to exei oli i eliniki skini mazi.
gi'ayto k thewrw anamenomeni (k dikaiologimeni) tin antidrasi tou cancer.
toulaxiston kala pou evales k to IMO mprosta!:P

anyway, as mi gyrnane ola ta thread se syzitiseis peri tis ellinikis skinis...

katwrimos
06-12-2003, 23:50
Den thelo na thikso kanena, apla afti einai i gnomi mu stin opoia emeno.

cancer
06-12-2003, 23:57
Den thelo na thikso kanena, apla afti einai i gnomi mu stin opoia emeno.
kale na sigxronistoume (c)

Kingryche
07-12-2003, 03:02
O Tollki einai gamatos sinthetis aki songwriter kai poli pio epagelmatias apo pollous s'afto pou kanei.
Se kathe disko twn Strats iparxoun 4-5 katapliktika tragoudia,kana 2 adiafora kai 2-3 copy paste kommatia proigoumenon diskon.Afta ta copy paste moiose sta 2 elements kai me sosti xrisi tis orxistras (dioti einai kalos gnostis tis mousikis) ekane ta 2 albums kalitera apo ta proigoumena.
Re katwrime akoune kai megaloi anthropoi Stratovarius sti Souidia?Giati edw an peraseis ta 16,varia 17 kai akous exeis mallon provlima.
Min sigrinoume tin Ellada me tis skandinavikes xores se epipedo mousikis se kanena epipedo.Einai apeira megali apostasi.As riksoume tin kouventa sto fagito pou mallon tous exoume...

VirusXI
07-12-2003, 04:06
παπαργιές, apla exoun perissoteres eykairies.

kai btw o tolkhs einai gamatos syn8eths intint, afomoiwnei apsoga ta indalmata tou 8)

Kingryche
07-12-2003, 04:37
Den tha to elega thema efkairiown alla thema ipodomwn.Des posa Souidika kai Filandika sximata kanoun diethni kariera kai posa Ellinika.Kai sin tois allois einai kai thema nootropias.Re c pigainan sxoleia na parakolouthisoun ta show tou BE twn POS.Poso makrini fantazei mia tetoia skepsi stin Ellada se kati antistixo?Kai einai polloi tetoioi tomeis pou stin Ellada den prokeitai na efarmosoume pote gia na ftasoume ta standards tous.

katwrimos
07-12-2003, 18:40
Fisika kai akune megalitera atoma edo stratovarius. Genika edo den iparxei i gnosti ratsa "metalas mexri ta 18 meta skiladika". Oloi akoune ta panta mexri na pethanun aneksartitos musikou idiomatos kai ilikias, arkei na tus aresei vevaia.

Oson afora to oti exun perisoteres efkairies, afto einai apopsi su meta tin polieti diamoni su sto eksoteriko? :roll:


Oxi oti den iparxun efkairies alla afto den kanei ta groups na kseoxorizoun se sxesi me ta elinika... afto pu ta kanei einai KIRIOS i dulia kai o epagelmatismos.

katwrimos
07-12-2003, 18:44
Den tha to elega thema efkairiown alla thema ipodomwn.Des posa Souidika kai Filandika sximata kanoun diethni kariera kai posa Ellinika.Kai sin tois allois einai kai thema nootropias.

megali kuventa ipes kingryche... kai i nootropia einai poli simantiki. Kai ton atomon tis xoras alla kirios ton melon ton sigrotimaton. Edo exo dei pramata pu stin elada pote den fantazomun pos ipirxan (px na pigainei olo to sigrotima stin ora tu gia prova :shock: )

VirusXI
07-12-2003, 18:53
Fisika kai akune megalitera atoma edo stratovarius. Genika edo den iparxei i gnosti ratsa "metalas mexri ta 18 meta skiladika". Oloi akoune ta panta mexri na pethanun aneksartitos musikou idiomatos kai ilikias, arkei na tus aresei vevaia.

Oson afora to oti exun perisoteres efkairies, afto einai apopsi su meta tin polieti diamoni su sto eksoteriko? :roll:


Oxi oti den iparxun efkairies alla afto den kanei ta groups na kseoxorizoun se sxesi me ta elinika... afto pu ta kanei einai KIRIOS i dulia kai o epagelmatismos.

an peraseis ta 16/17 kai akous ontws exeis provlhma, opote kai oi souhdoi xevimetallades pou anaferei o katwrimos einai ontws ka8ysterhmenoi. k as mhn exoun skyladika.

epishs vlamene (polu de viazesai na eirwneyteis?) to
"Min sigrinoume tin Ellada me tis skandinavikes xores se epipedo mousikis se kanena epipedo.Einai apeira megali apostasi.As riksoume tin kouventa sto fagito pou mallon tous exoume..."
pou eipe o Kingryche einai teleiws geniko, kai symfwneis sth telikh mazi mou giati douleia kai epaggelmatismos einai apotelesma twn eykairiwn - pou toses fores exeis anaferei - k oxi 8ema talentou or whatever. an eixame k meis thn ypodomh (pes to alliws "eykairies") 8a tous gamousame, giati edw sto ellanta eimaste talentares, wraioi typoi kai kala paidia kai kseroume apo kalo ladi.

Dragonlord
07-12-2003, 19:21
re ti sygkrinoume twra edw phge o hliopoulos pou einai kai 3enos kai tou dwsane tsampa studio gia na kanei proves

katwrimos
07-12-2003, 19:47
re ti sygkrinoume twra edw phge o hliopoulos pou einai kai 3enos kai tou dwsane tsampa studio gia na kanei proves

Dragonlord: Afto pali pios sto eipe?


Virus. Esy les oti apotigxanume kirios giati den exume efkeries. Ego leo oti apotigxanume giati eimaste tempelides kai mas ftaine oloi ektos apo ton eafto mas...

Alla mias ki ego eimai enas apo tus ano ton 17 pu akune stratovarius, kalitera min akus ti gnomi mu giati prepei na eimai kathisterimenos.

Dragonlord
07-12-2003, 19:56
Ο Ηλιόπουλος σε συνέντευξη πρόσφατα στο Ροκ Ον.Δεν είμαι 100% σίγουρος αλλά έτσι θυμάμαι.

Μπαι Δε Γουέη (άσχετο) αποφάσισα να ακολουθήσω κι εγώ το νέο τρεντ των ελληνικών.ναι ρε μουνιά γαμώ \μ/

The_Painless
07-12-2003, 20:12
Μπαι Δε Γουέη (άσχετο) αποφάσισα να ακολουθήσω κι εγώ το νέο τρεντ των ελληνικών.ναι ρε μουνιά γαμώ \μ/

Χμμ, δεν είναι trend νομίζω. Προσωπικά, με τα greeklish έχω αρχίσει εδώ και καιρό να έχω πρόβλημα γιατί πάω να γράψω κείμενο στα ελληνικά και γράφω ξέρω γω "ά8εοσ" και το βλέπω μετά και δε λέει...

symposium_lexotanil
07-12-2003, 20:16
χμου δικιά μου ιδέα ήτονε τα ελλήνικος. \μ/ <-- ο μεταλλάς που του κόπηκε το δάχτυλο στον τόρνο,καθώς δούλευε για να βγάλει λεφτά να πάει σε λάιβ μπλάιντ γκάρντιαν

The_Painless
07-12-2003, 20:19
Καλά ρε μεταλλικό φιλαράκι ναούμε, δε σου πήραμε και το κρέντιτ γαμώ τα λάιβ Μπλάιντ Γκάρντιαν :P

symposium_lexotanil
07-12-2003, 20:19
Χμμ, δεν είναι trend νομίζω. Προσωπικά, με τα greeklish έχω αρχίσει εδώ και καιρό να έχω πρόβλημα γιατί πάω να γράψω κείμενο στα ελληνικά και γράφω ξέρω γω "ά8εοσ" και το βλέπω μετά και δε λέει...

ε του πούστη..κάθε κείμενο που γράφεις έχει τη λέξη άθεος? στο κάτω κάτω βάλε κανά συνώνυμο.

The_Painless
07-12-2003, 20:21
Χμμ, δεν είναι trend νομίζω. Προσωπικά, με τα greeklish έχω αρχίσει εδώ και καιρό να έχω πρόβλημα γιατί πάω να γράψω κείμενο στα ελληνικά και γράφω ξέρω γω "ά8εοσ" και το βλέπω μετά και δε λέει...

ε του πούστη..κάθε κείμενο που γράφεις έχει τη λέξη άθεος? στο κάτω κάτω βάλε κανά συνώνυμο.

Οχι αλλά πολλές λέξεις έχουν 'θ' και πολλές λέξεις έχουν σίγμα τελικό. Παράδειγμα ανέφερα σταδιάλα :roll:

symposium_lexotanil
07-12-2003, 20:25
κι εσύ αν συνε-χύσεις έτσι θα αποτελέσεις παράδειγμα αθρώπου (σικ) χωρίς χιούμορ

The_Painless
07-12-2003, 20:33
Yeah, I know. I lost it quite recently.

Dragonlord
08-12-2003, 22:35
..και το όλο πράμα κατέληξε εδώ:

Finland's STRATOVARIUS have officially parted ways with vocalist Timo Kotipelto and drummer Jorg Michael.

"Due to irrevocable and massive difficulties between the band leader Timo Tolkki and me, it has been agreed that this is the best thing to do to preserve at least some of the integrity the band used to have," Kotipelto said, according to the band's web site. "I will now fully concentrate on my solo album and I am convinced that this is the best way for me."

Jorg Michael says that his priorities lie elsewhere at the moment, but that the suddenly escalating trouble in the band is one of the main reasons he doesn't want to play in STRATOVARIUS anymore.

"I think this is the beginning of new era for STRATOVARIUS and that the future looks bright and promising," guitarist/leader Timo Tolkki commented. "I have composed some of my best songs during the last month. If anything good comes out of this, then I guess it will be the emotions I have managed to channel into new songs about this situation, which has been very heavy for all of us. I have been having quite bad mental problems lately, but I feel better now due to anti-depressive medication my therapist has prescribed me."

According to the group's booking agent, Continental Concerts, the current line-up is "100% certain" to fulfill all its obligations regarding festival dates next year even though there is a lot of simmering hate waiting to boil over.

Tolkki is currently talking to a German singer and a Finnish drummer about replacing Kotipelto and Michael, but he stresses that absolutely nothing is confirmed at this point. He adds that he is actively looking for replacements.

The_Painless
08-12-2003, 22:50
Αλλο ένα δράμα έλαβε τέλος..................
Ο κακός Καταπέλτο αυτοεξορίστηκε στις ολλανδικές άλπεις και άρχισε να κάνει παρέα με περιστρεφόμενους δερβίσηδες και ο Joerg προσπάθησε να πνίξει τον πόνο του επιστρέφοντας στις παλιές καλές συνήθειες, τα session-ιλίκια.
Θα μέτραγε πάντως να τραγουδάει ο Tolki.

Buddy Lackey
08-12-2003, 22:56
safws
tolki > kotipelto

VirusXI
08-12-2003, 23:07
o tolkhs kalytera tragoudaei para grantzounaei... standar.

necropethamenos
08-12-2003, 23:19
Ntaks, vasika oi stratovarius ginane toso kourastikoi pou AN kati mporei na tous swsei einai oi allages sta meli tous kai isws ta narkwtika.

Ara isws einai kala nea :)

After Dark
09-12-2003, 00:29
Opws akrivws ta eixame pei sthn arxh aytou tou thread.Ekane mpam h olh fash.Twra seira tha xei kai o Jens logika.To mono pou elpizw einai o Michael na kanei epitelous swsto drum playing.Oxi allo stroumfopaiksimo.Me dedomenh kai th gnwsth proyphresia tou.
"Einai kalytero na vlepeis to xortari na megalwnei,para to Jorg na paizei drums"Stamatoukos se kritikh tou Black Hand Inn sto Hammah\m/

The Butcher
09-12-2003, 01:35
Ntaks, vasika oi stratovarius ginane toso kourastikoi pou AN kati mporei na tous swsei einai oi allages sta meli tous kai isws ta narkwtika.

Ara isws einai kala nea :)
ayto akrivws.
an k kata ti gnwmi mou mallon to idaniko tha itan na fygei o...tolki. :P
time will tell...

necropethamenos
09-12-2003, 02:00
Isws itan kalytera na fygoun oloi giati PALI fovamai oti tha einai to episode 5 alla eimai kalos anthrwpos kai thelw na pistevw oti yparxei panta elpida kai alla tetoia psemmata.

Kingryche
09-12-2003, 03:17
Kotipelto > 38X Tollki
To mono pou den tha ithela einai na tragoudisei o Tollki me tin kammia.Alla den tha to kanei giati den mporei na tragoudisei ta tragoudia tou Kotipelto.
Na deite pou tha ton psisei ton Michael kai tha gelame oloi...to exei pei oti exei se megali ektimisi ton Tollki...
O Kotipelto epeidi exei fwnara kala tha kanei na vrei tipota gnostous mousikous kai na formarei mia mpanta pou na paizei amerikaniko hard n heavy.Tha gamage...
Krima pantos gia mena :( .Ta 2 elements mou aresoun para para poli kai nomiza oti arxize anodos gia tous Strats.Telika proekipse nea arxi.

necropethamenos
09-12-2003, 03:59
Koita, an psisei ton kiske ntaks, ferte mou ksyrafia.

Diladi ena disko me kommatia san to key to the universe na evgaze kai tha agoraza monos mou 2756328 antitypa.

Dragonlord
12-12-2003, 10:51
STRATOVARIUS guitarist Timo Tolkki has spoken to the Finnish daily newspaper Ilta-Sanomat about the circumstances behind the group's recently announced split with vocalist Timo Kotipelto and drummer Jorg Michael.

According to Tolkki, he and Kotipelto got into a physical altercation three weeks ago. Originally, Tolkki had stepped in to break up a fight between drummer Michael and Kotipelto, but after the latest episode, both he and Kotipelto realized that they would not be able to carry on working together. Tolkki says that the fight was due to Kotipelto wanting to have more involvement in the songwriting process as well as more say in the band's business affairs.

The members of the most recent STRATOVARIUS lineup will be forced to work together one more time as they prepare to play all of the previously announced summer festivals in order to avoid paying out huge cancellation fees. Tolkki has admitted that he doesn't know if they will be able to get along with each other long enough to do the upcoming shows and had made it clear that he would prefer to call off the dates altogether.

The_Painless
12-12-2003, 11:08
The members of the most recent STRATOVARIUS lineup will be forced to work together one more time as they prepare to play all of the previously announced summer festivals in order to avoid paying out huge cancellation fees. Tolkki has admitted that he doesn't know if they will be able to get along with each other long enough to do the upcoming shows and had made it clear that he would prefer to call off the dates altogether.

Ιχ μλκς αν γίνει αυτό, το thread θα φτάσει διαστάσεις 'now listening to...' thread.

cloud
12-12-2003, 23:22
Poios touys gamei tous malakes? mono ton Timo goustara, paei ki aytos.

Dragonlord
18-12-2003, 12:25
STRATOVARIUS guitarist Timo Tolkki has issued the following update regarding the group's search for a new singer and drummer:

"Dear Friends,

"Since the rumours are wildly speculating about the new STRATOVARIUS singer and drummer I have decided to tell you how things are going at the moment. First of all I have not been in contact with Michael Kiske about being the replacement for Timo Kotipelto. I know Michael well enough not to suggest anything like that to him and I have enormous amount of respect to him and his musical career. He knows what he wants and I am sure it is very different from what I want.

"I have received lot of interest from lots of different singers and drummers, some of them have been quite surprising and some of them are even singing/playing in quite big groups at this writing. Thank you for your interest.

"Also 3 female vocalists have sent me their tapes and I must say that 1 of them sounds unbelievably talented and she has the looks that kill as well. I hope I can give you some news about the replacements as soon as possible.

"I am still writing new songs and it is going very smoothly. New songs seem to have completely different direction compared to those 10 songs that I wrote first. Even I am very surprised about the songs and how different they sound compared to the previous STRATOVARIUS songs. It seems that I am more positive now, since we found the solution that we all can live with. It's not about FUCKING money by the way.

"I have quit the anti depressives and therapy at the moment and I am feeling really good. I was drinking with Jari last weekend and we had a really good time together. We did pass out from drinking too much, but hey, YOU LIVE ONLY ONCE!!!

"The old line-up will play a Spanish Festival [Piorno Rock] on 28.2.2004. I hope we can act civilized there, although the situation is a pain in the ASS. Nevertheless we will try our best to give a good STRATOVARIUS show to the Spanish fans. SEE YOU ALL THERE!!"