Starcraft Dream Vs Lost Temple

[The Nerd]

H dream einai kalh pista gia na ma8eis tis monades kai counters ktl.
Epishs, mporeis eykola na anakampseis.

H LT einai pio dyskolh, apaitei na eisai sovaroteros paixths alla den prosferetai gia grhgora (MH-RUSH) paixnidia.

Sthn dream kallista mporeis na ma8eis SC

[silencerius]

Na mou epitrepseis na diafwnisw, eksigoumai:

Enas apo tous megaliterous kai simantikoterous tomeis tou Starcraft, ws paixnidi, einai i diaxeirisi twn resources, kai to expansion tis bashs, me skopo tin kaliteri oikonomia kai ton elegxo tou xarth.

Starcraft = Economy management, Recon, Map Control, Tactics, Unit selection and management.

Stin dream to mono pou kaneis einai na bazeis ta peons sto ena kai monadiko mineral patch, na ftiakseis merika gas kai apo kei kai pera den asxoleisai me tipota allo para mono me tin dimiourgia monadwn kai ta tactics pou tha akolouthiseis (opou kai pali exeis periorismenes epiloges, tha to analisw parakatw).

Ws map, dhladh, sou afairei automata ena terastio meros tou paixnidiou, to Economy management. Den yparxei kanena noima na prospathiseis na apoktiseis elegxo tou xarti. Den xreiazetai na kaneis expansion. Oute kan na asxoleisai me to posa resources exeis, giati den teleiwnoun pote.

Ektos autou, to map einai ftiagmeno etsi pou se periorizei para poly tactic-wise. Den yparxoun high kai low grounds, choke points, debris, expansions. Einai apla mia epipedh pista, me 8 spawn points, kai ola enwnontai se ena terastio kentro.
To monadiko pragma pou mporeis na kaneis (apo ena simeio kai meta toulaxiston) einai na exeis polla unit production ktiria kai na bgazeis sinexws strato.

Pragmatika i pista auti DEN einai gia 1on1. Einai pio poly gia ton xabale, gia na matheis isws units kai pws na ta xeirizesai (kai pali xaneis akoma kai ston tomea tou micro). Den yparxei periptwsh kapoios pou pragmatika thelei na mathei starcraft (kai na apoktisei kapoio epipedo, pera apo to apla na kserei ta units kai ta ktiria) na mporesei na antimetwpisei enan paikth pou paizei ladder maps (LT klp, dhladh ta official maps pou exoun bgei gia na paizontai ta 1on1 kai ta 2on2).

Ta tactics einai apeirws perissotera sta ladder maps, exeis polles perissoteres epiloges, apoktaei noima to paixnidi kai mono ekei mporeis pragmatika na exeis to full potential tou.

To starcraft (oson afora to 1on1 kai to 2on2 toulaxiston) exei ftiaxtei gia na paizetai se ladder maps.


H LT einai pio dyskolh, apaitei na eisai sovaroteros paixths alla den prosferetai gia grhgora (MH-RUSH) paixnidia.

Exeis adiko. Den kserw pws na sto eksigisw akribws.
To gegonos oti epeidh h dream einai grigori pista (oson afora ta resources) kai mporeis na exeis sta 3 lepta, 12 zealots, anti gia 6 pou tha eixes stin lost temple, den simainei pws einai "ligotero rush". Ektos autou h Lost Temple pianei megalitero fasma endiaferontos sto paixnidi (early-mid-end-game) enw stin dream apo kapoio simeio kai meta xanete to endiaferon.

[The Nerd]

Xm, mono kai mono gia to sxolio gia high/low ground (kai cover :-P ), to post soy einai egkyro. Alla epimenw oti ama 8es na pai3eis 2-3 games sta grhgora, SCD is the way.

[silencerius]

Kai pali, to an ena match tha einai grigoro i oxi den eksartatai apo to map, alla apo to skill kai tin diathesi twn paiktwn.

Par'ola auta katalabainw ti ennoeis, stin dream mporeis na kaneis mesa se 3 lepta oti tha ekanes se kapoio ladder map se 6 (asxeta an sta 15 lepta ginetai poly bareto hdh to paixnidi). Na ksereis omws oti xaneis terastio meros tis ousias kai euxaristisis tou paixnidiou.

Sto starcraft yparxoun xondrika 3 stadia, se kathe match: Early, Mid kai End game. Stin dream eidika (alla kai genika se oles tis pistes me polla lefta) xaneis to early, to mid krataei elaxista, kai pas kateutheian sto end game, to opoio einai to pio bareto. Sinithws.

[XD]

Map toso idaniko gia 1v1/2v2 oso h Lost Temple diskola
ksanaftiaxnete. Kalh h Dream, alla 0 mprosta sthn Lost
Temple. Ntaks, to na pas mass barracks kai macro kapxoies
fores exei arketh ws poli plaka, alla me to perasma tou xronou
katantaei teleiws anousio. Allo na xeis sth Dream sth bash sou
20 barracks ta opoia ta extises to ena meta apo to allo, mesa se
ena peplo bebaiothtas, asfaleias kai gayosynhs kai allo na xeis
parei 2-3 exps (kai to nhsi mazi) sthn Lost Temple me ton idrwta sou, na
ta frontizeis kai na ta xairesai kai na xeis kamia 12ara barracks gia ta
opoia kopiases mexri na ta xtiseis kai na ta iposthrikseis. Allo pou
pistebw pws sthn telikh, pxoio megalh kabla einai na kaneis micro
px 2 siege tanks, 3 scv, 6 marines, 3 medics apo to na xeis px 15
carriers h genika late units. Oso gia to thema rush, aneta rushareis
se Lost Temple, alla prepei na se arxidaras gia na mhn ta skatwseis,
gi'afto kai sthn Lost Temple fenontai oi pragmatikoi paixtes. Ki oso gia
to an sthn dream mathaineis SC, eksartatai pws to prosdiorizeis afto.
To thema einai pws ama kapxoios kalos sthn Dream paei na paiksei
Lost Temple, tha faei ena papari apo 'dw mexri to fegkari, enw an
kapxoios kalos sthn Lost Temple paiksei Dream, profanws tha
gamisei, h an den simbei afto, tha paisei san palikari. (to grafw afto
giati akomh kai xrono na trws gia micro, simperilambanetai mesa se
afto to na bgazeis units sinexeia, opote kapoios pou mporei na
kanei micro, pithanws mporei na kanei kai macro. Den einai san to
WCIII as poume, pou mporeis na xeis poli anekmetalefto xrhma sth
bash kai na ta pas kala epeidh basizetai se micro.) Opote, mallon
@@ mathaineis sthn Dream. :P

[silencerius]

kala ta les. xwsou ki esi na paiksoume.

[XD]

Poli tha to thela re gamwto alla exei kabatzwsei to cd enas gnwstos
kai akomh na mou to epistrepsei. :( Den thimamai ki olas, ama
katebasw to SC tha paizei me moufa cd-key batlenet h oxi ?
Anyway. O kairoc gar eggyc. Btw silencerius sto parelthon
prepei na 'xame paiksei merika games mazi tyxaia. :dwink:

[silencerius]

mporeis na katebaseis to starcraft kai na sou pei o gnwstos sou to cd-key apo to tilefwno.

an den ginetai, de xaneis kai tpt na dokimaseis an tha paizei i oxi.

gia pes nickname. brood war fantazomai epaizes e?

SiLeNcER edw.

[sereg]

Βαριόμουν να διαβάσω όλα τα posts οπότε:


Σαν παλιός παίχτης δεν ξέρω την Dream. Το LT όμως ήταν από τα πιο ωραία maps σε όλο το παιχνίδι.

SC/BW χωρίς expansion δεν λέει μία. Το expansion είναι κομμάτι του b.o. σου. Αν το κάνεις νωρίς ρισκάρεις να τον πιεις αν αργήσεις ο αντίπαλος παίρνει το πλεονέκτημα. Γενικά απαιτεί και αυτό το σωστό του timing και skill.

Επίσης αυτά περί υψωμάτων που αναφέρθηκαν είναι πολύ σωστά.

Ηθικό δίδαγμα: Improved Hunters ρε μουνιά :P

[silencerius]

Improved Cunters parakalw

best Hunters mod ever made, by fucking losers

:P

[sereg]

αχαχαχαχαχα ναι την είχα κι αυτή. :thumbsup:


PS: O Mr.Magoo (Kagoo :P ) την είχε κάνει αυτή;

[silencerius]

o grim

[MoRmEnGiL]

hunters all the way. :P

PS:after all these years i still suck at starcraft...